How to Save a Life with Brad Newbury

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2:04of the Secure Family Podcast. My guest on the show today is Brad Newberry. Brad has spent more than 40 years in fire and emergency medical services beginning as a volunteer at just 16 years old. Today he serves as a captain and is also the founder of the National Medical Education and Training Center, which is trained more than 12,000 EMTs in paramedics. He is also the co-author of the Saved Effect, a book about the incredible ripple effect that happens when ordinary people have the knowledge and courage to step up and save a life. Here's my conversation with Brad Newberry. Thank you, Brad, for being on the show with me today. Introduce yourself to everybody. Thank you, Andy. I appreciate that. My name is Brad Newberry. I've been in fire and EMS for over 40 years now. I started as a young volunteer when I was 16 years old and had

3:05this incredibly eclectic career. I look forward to our discussion here today. Yeah, man. I'm excited to hear from you, to learn from you. Let me know what got you started in fire in emergency response. What was it about you that was like, hey, this is what I want to do? I grew up in the 70s watching emergency, which is a show about LA County paramedics, Johnny Roy. As I watched that show, I wanted to be Johnny Gage because he got all the girls and I ended up being Roy DeSoto. But as a young boy, I had an uncle in the city of Fall River here in Massachusetts. He was a firefighter there. My mom would drop me off when I was like 10, 11, 12 years old at the firehouse. I would get to ride along with him on the fire truck. That really sparked my interest not only between the show emergency. I wanted to be a paramedic, but also getting to go on calls with my uncle in the city. That really

4:10would drove me to where I am today. It was also due to my dad too. My dad was a special forces marine. He was a force recon marine. He instilled that life of service into all of us in our family. I think that definitely shaped who I am today. All of that from the time I was very young to where we are today. It's been an incredible journey. Yeah, man. That is awesome. Just real quick, for anybody who is looking to get into this field, how would you tell somebody to kind of get started with emergency response and firefighting in 2026? What would you suggest? I think if you're a high school student at this point in your life, first thing, go out and get trained in CPR. We're going to talk a little bit about that. We'll talk about that in our book. But I think if you have this drive, see if your local fire department will allow you to do a ride along. In my department, we take in young students all the time. We'll let them ride the ambulance around the fire truck with us. Of course, mom and dad have to sign a waiver. But outside

5:15of that, we'll bring them into our firehouse and we'll talk to them about what we do on a daily basis and then actually get to go on a few calls and see really what it's all about. Because sometimes it's just a mystery. Every young kid, every I used to say, every young kid started out wanting to be a firefighter. The fire truck goes by and the lights and the siren. Andy, have you ever ridden the fire truck? No, I've been to police cars and ambulances. That's not the same. Yeah, but not a fire truck. Well, listen, if you ever get the Massachusetts, you'll get you in a fire truck and you can experience that. That's awesome. So I think that's where, you know, as we can instill some of those initial core values into some of our younger folks. So I think that there's a number of programs out there throughout the country and they have fire explorer, explore programs kind of like the police do too as well. So teenagers can go to their contact, their local fire department and see if there is a program that they could get involved in. And then on the other side of it too, as many

6:20departments across the United States, the fire departments across the United States are the largest provider of pre-hospital care of VMS. And so they, they, if you, you know, have a thought about what the fire service is, you know, today about 75 to 80% of our calls are EMS. And so we're going and taking care of people in some of the worst days of their life, both on the fireside, but also in medical emergencies. So I think it's important that, young folks really understand what they would be getting themselves into because it is a true, I mean, listen, I've been, like I said, I've been here for 40 years in the fire service. I love my job. And there's a difference between love and like, right? I mean, I love my job. I love, I'm going to the firehouse tomorrow. And I'll be there for 24 hours. I work as a captain, paramedic. I'm a shift commander and I'm at a command vehicle now, but I spent many, many years as a paramedic in the ambulance, but also as an as an engine company lieutenant. And so all of those

7:20years of service, I've never looked back on one day and said, oh, this is a job. It is not. It is not only a calling. It's a passion. And, and, you know, I think you have to love people, though. And I love people. I love taking care of people. And so that's really where it's rooted. And I think any young person that's thinking about going in this profession, really take a look at it hard and then jump in all in because it is an incredibly rewarding career. And, and when we get to our book, we'll talk a little bit about some of the that, that piece of, of what we do and how we truly impact all those lives. Yeah, that's, that's a great response to that. And I think you're absolutely right for what you do 24 hours in a day. You have to really care about people. And that is awesome. And, you know, we, we need more people like you. So if you are interested in starting a career like this, absolutely do what Brad said, check it out and then jump in with both feet. I love that. But today, I wanted to talk to you about what the average family can do

8:24to really take care of themselves. And I feel like every family thinks that the first aid kit needs to have like band aids in it because that's all we're really ever going to need, right? So what should families put in their first aid kit to make sure that they're covered for the average emergency? Well, first and foremost, let's think about one thing, particularly around true emergencies. I'm not talking about cuts with band aids, right? Mom and dad can figure those things out. You know, you can go to CVS, you can build a kit, get some band aids, get some gauze, maybe some, you know, alcohol, you, those are minor things. It's the major emergencies. I think every household should have a tourniquet. And, and, and, and when I say that, I mean, I've seen people who cut themselves not only just with a knife, but more so like, uh, you know, somebody fell and they, they hit the glass table and, and had a, a really nasty cut in a rom where they're bleeding like crazy. And no one knew what to do, right? Just a simple tourniquet,

9:24if they learn how to use the tourniquet, I can teach someone in five minutes how to use the tourniquet. And so it's very simple, you know, there's a great program's out there with FEMA. There's a great program called Be the Help until Help Arrives. There's also the Stop to Bleed program that's out there too as well. I would seek those programs out. And, and then build a kit around resiliency, meaning that what, what are some of the major things that could happen within your home? And, and then that's where the preparation begins. And there are, there are commercial kits out there that people sell, but I think that it's fairly simple, you know, I always have a tourniquet, whether it be in my car, it's in my house. Um, but another thing that I want to really point out is it's not just the pieces, it's not just the kit, it's the training too. And then the willingness to, to act when you have that training is a big key. And I think here's the statistic. If you're thinking, you know, families, 73% of all cardiac arrests where people stop breathing and don't have a pulse

10:27happen in the home. Are you prepared? And, and it doesn't take, it doesn't take, you know, care, you know, my daughter, Karen, I wrote this book. And if Karen was here, she'd tell you her journey started when she was eight years old, becoming certified in CPR. And if an eight-year old can get certified in CPR, I bet your listeners can too as well. And they don't have to be certified. Right. They just need to be trained. Right. Because if you're, you know, it was funny, I was on a, podcast recently and the young woman that was the host, I said to her, if, if your loved one, your husband or your mom and dad, the people you love the most, we're sitting right next to you right now. And suddenly, stop breathing and didn't have a pulse. Would you know what to do? And she just looked at, she looked at us and she said, no. And, and the reality hit her hard. And I said, well, what do you think you'd do? And she said, well, the first thing I do is I'd

11:29probably YouTube it. How to do CPR. And which, you know, you watch YouTube, every YouTube starts with a commercial, right? You got, I got a commercial. I could, I got to wait 10 seconds. I can skip that one. And now they put another one there. And you're like, oh, yeah. So it was that in the moment, thought of, hey, I really don't know what to do. I hope everyone, you know, listening, the first thing you do is have recognition that there's a problem. That's number one. Number two, call 911. Because even if you don't know what to do in today's environment of, of our dispatch assisted, they have dispatch assistance CPR. So the dispatcher, most systems around the country, they'll get on. They'll tell you to put the phone on speaker phone. They'll say, put it next to the patient and they'll walk you through how to do compressions only CPR. And actually, including inside of our book, we actually have a QR code that if you scan the QR code, we have a free, a free video that will show you how to do hands-only CPR as well as the Heimlich maneuver. And, you know, I feel for the person in the story because they go to YouTube,

12:35that's where they get all their information, right? You know, so like, I understand that, that desire to go there. But yeah, I mean, I'm thirsty. Like the ads and how long it's going to take and all of that, that clock is ticking. We absolutely need to be prepared. You know, you talked about turnickets a little while ago. I have two in my house and I have one in all of my vehicles along with a first aid kit there. I know this can kind of be a little bit of a slippery slope. But do you have a recommendation for tools for stop the bleed and a turn ticket that might could be used on an adult and also a child? Yeah, for sure. I mean, there are many companies out there that offer them. North American Rescue is one that I go to a lot. I think they have really good quality stuff and I would recommend. They actually have pre-designed kits. They have, you know, the iFAC kits, the individual first aid kit. And so I think that there are companies like, you know, North American Rescue, those folks, they're doing it right. Like,

13:38they're using quality stuff. There are some turnickets out there that are coming from other countries that are probably not effective. And it's interesting to see that out of the market, you can buy them on Amazon. If it's cheap and it's probably not effective, I mean, if I need to save a life and I look at the $20 keep turn ticket versus the $3 turn ticket, I'm probably buying the $20 turn ticket because quality matters, particularly in this sense. Yeah, absolutely. You get what you pay for. And in the life-saving emergency, paying a little more is absolutely worth it, especially to the person that you're going to be putting that turn ticket on. Yeah, and I remember, I think it's probably about five or six years ago. Now, there was this real problem with Amazon getting flooded with like fake turnickets, things that were not really designed to work at all ever. And of course, coming from like other countries. So yeah, I'm glad that you gave North American rescue a shout out. That's where all of mine come from too. And to the any listener,

14:42I don't know anybody there. I've never, you know, seriously, I'm not a part of their marketing team. I've never, I don't even know anybody who works there. I just buy their stuff. And we actually buy their stuff and use some of their stuff here at our EMS school that we can talk about. But so I think they're solid, the stuff they have. There's some other really interesting stuff that's coming out. I don't know that it's actually available to the general public yet, but certainly for first responder standpoint, there's this new thing called trauma jail. And I've heard about it. It actually comes in a syringe and you squirt it into the wound. And it immediately within seconds will start to coagulate, start to stop the bleeding. It's amazing. If you want to look it up, we just put it on our ambulances. And I think it's definitely the wave of the future. There has been these trauma gauze that are impregnated with things that will stop the bleeding.

15:43But I haven't seen anything like trauma jail before. I mean, I've used some of those gauze and they work. They absolutely work. I have in my car and my own first aid kits because it does work. But the trauma jail is the next up and coming thing. And again, I don't work for that company. But I just I talk about products that I've used and things that I've seen that work well and are going to be groundbreaking for care in the future. Very cool. I'll ask you this real quick, because I've seen the trauma jail kind of demonstrated on like a dummy or something like that. But like, will this work for like a straight line cut, but also like for maybe like an open wound as well, or is it just something in between? I think both. And it's not the only thing is it's not, it hasn't been FDA approved for to put into say like abdominal cavity, a thoracic cavity. Sure.

16:44Sure. And though, but so any of the extremities and things like that, that even if you had a penetrating wound that that it would work. Yeah. Cool. Well, that that is definitely exciting. And that is I'm I'm hopeful that you know, medical innovations like this will start with professionals and they trickle down to families so that one day we will be carrying something like this in our first aid kits and our cars and that sort of thing to to use if we ever need it. There's no downside to it. I mean, there is literally no downside to it. There's no, you know, you can see adverse reactions. I mean, it's very interesting the way they developed it and built it. And so I think it will become ubiquitous out there for for stopping bleeding. Right. Let me ask you this. You touched on this a little bit. If you have a family member at home who becomes unresponsive, what should you do? But most importantly, what should you not do in that situation? So I think the first thing that you should do is recognize that emergency is happening.

17:48And then the next thing is that you either tell someone point to them and direct someone to call 911 or if there's no one else around, you do it yourself because time is of the essence. And getting getting fire in EMS and police on the way train responders to your emergency is going to be critical. And it really depends where you live in the United States. You know, here in the, the, you know, we're just south of Boston. And so the response times in my department anywhere between, you know, two to four to five minutes. So fairly quickly. Yeah. But there are places in the country where we have students that come to our school from all over the United States. But sometimes they can have 10, 15, 20 minute response times just to get to your emergency. So getting, I mean, our country is very vast, right? So there are places that you can have some really extended response times from fire, EMS and police. And so that's where preparation matters. And that's where resiliency, building resiliency at home matters. It's like knowing what to do.

18:54How do you, how do you manage an emergency when you're, when you're 20, 30 minutes away from the closest provider? And something that I hope that people who live in those areas think about, but I also know that sometimes they don't. So, oh yeah, I would say what you shouldn't do is, you shouldn't just pick up that person, throw him in the car and start driving, right? That's not going to help. And particularly around children, we see that a lot with, with kids where parents are kind of freaking out that either the baby's choking or, I mean, you've seen those police videos, right? Where, where, where, mother, you know, had a kid who was choking through the baby in the car and all of a sudden she's speeding away and, or, or dad and the police officer stops her. Don't do those things, right? Like, first and foremost, if you have a child or you're having children, you should be trained not only in CPR, but also in, in choking. Critically important, right? I mean, several times my own children, I've had to relieve obstructions.

19:57And, and, and so I think it's every parents nightmare. So, if you're going to be, if you have children at home and you're a mom or a, particularly your, you know, mom or dad, you need to be trained. So, so that you can respond to your own child's emergency. And, and that's not just that too. I mean, it's summertime. We've seen a number of drownings lately of children and drownings. And, do we know what to do? And, and I think we'll kind of talk fluid about that later on. But I think those are the things when you say what not to do. I think that he, you have to say to yourself, what don't I know? And then what can I do to, to ensure that, that I have the knowledge skill and ability to take care of our family in one of those critical emergencies. And fill the gap between the time that the emergency happens and fire any of my show up. Right. I have, I've been a proponent of telling people for a long time that 9-1-1 isn't magic. That doesn't mean that the

20:59fire department is going to magically, you know, just appear in your front yard to help you with whatever your emergency is. You're going to have to do stuff on your own until help arrives. So, yeah, like that response time is huge and knowing what that is for your, for your family. Or, if you're in a big weather event like a hurricane, you got to know that, oh, it's going to be even more of a pro long time because they're probably out doing other places or road conditions are bad and they can't get to you as well. So, yeah, great stuff to think about. So, I did want to follow up on something that you said, you know, families love going to the beach, they love going to the pool. What do we need to know to make sure that we know how to spot trouble when it comes to kids in near drowning events and what, what is it that we need to know to do if a child actually does have a problem? I think first and foremost, parents or anybody who is around children who are swimming in a pool have to be paying attention. And there, there's been a number of times in my

22:00career where people, you know, the kids were at a party and parents were not paying attention, kids were swimming and all of a sudden little Johnny's at the bottom of the pool and nobody recognized that. So, someone has to be the designated adult in charge to to pay attention, right? I mean, personally, I've always been that person I just felt responsible. I've never been alcohol has never been part of my story. I've never been drunk in my life. So, I feel like that that responsible party I'm always watching out. I feel like the, you know, that dog who's just watching over the kids and making sure that bad things aren't happening, right? And so, I think that's number one, right? We have to have a designated adult in charge that's paying attention. That's first and foremost. But the same thing too is recognition when an emergency is actually happening and it doesn't mean that that child is thrashing and flailing around. And there's a great story in our book of a young boy at the lake. And John, John Lee describes vividly how he drowned.

23:04And none of it was really thrashing around. And so, you know, he had a real distinct memory of what happened. And so, all of a sudden, he just kind of slipped under the water. And so, you know, you think that you're seeing, but it's really about, hey, how many heads that I see in the pool? Wait, wait, wait, I only see four now. There was five. Like, where is a little Johnny? And so, I think those are those are great pieces. But the next piece too is, is that there is folks that are there that are trained because if God forbid that, you know, a child or an adult, by the way, I mean, I've been to calls where adults drown in pools and lakes and the ocean and all those things, right? And, you know, where is where a sea coast here in Boston? So, we certainly see a lot of that. And so, as you, you know, someone pulls that person out or you're maybe you're the one involved in that and is, do you have the skill to start CPR? And one of the big differences between someone who's, you know, just dropped from a sudden cardiac arrest and the person who drowned is the

24:05respiratory component, meaning that they need ventilations. Because, you know, when you think about the individual that just went down from cardiac arrest, they they have a, a enough of oxygen in their body as you're doing compressions only to circulate it. But the person who drowned might not have that and they probably need ventilations too as well. Right. Great. Particularly, particularly children. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. A few years ago, I was, I was kind of like you. I was the dog who was, you know, just absolutely watching the kids and I was able to get a kid out of a very bad situation. He slipped up under a, a float and nobody else saw him but me. So I had to go get him and pull him out. So I know a lot of times families, they make fire escape plans or they should, you know, and I also think this should, they should make like medical emergency plans. So kind of give me some tips on what makes a good fire escape plan and then what makes a good medical emergency plan. All right. First, from a fire escape plan,

25:10I think that the number one thing that we have to impart on families today is that if the smoke detector goes off in your house and you're not moving, fire is growing at such a rapid rate, more than I've ever seen it grow in my entire 40 year career. It's because our houses are full of hydrocovins. Basically, everything is plastic. And so fires when I was a, you know, when I was a young firefight, a young volunteer, the rapidity in which they grew was a lot less than what it is now. And so if your smoke detector goes off and first and foremost, everyone should be sleeping with their door closed. I think if you want to, you know, think about, I have some amazing pictures of fires that I was, you know, involved in extinguishing those fires where the entire main part of the house is gutted and then you open the door to a backbed room and not even the plastic bag that's in the far corner of the room is melted. It's perfectly in pristine condition.

26:12Right. So if you want to do anything to save your life in today's environment is that you should be sleeping with your doors closed and that if your smoke detector goes off, that you're moving, right, you're getting up, you're evaluating the situation, you're deciding, is it just a spider that crawls through one of the detectors or is it a malfunction of the detector? And I'm not just talking about a beep, right, like a battery that's died. I'm talking about sounding. And particularly in most modern construction today of homes, the building code requires that all of the smoke detectors are connected. So even at a far place in your house and maybe in your basement, the smoke detector is going off and yours is ringing in your bedroom too. We hope that's what's going on. And then, you know, particularly about, you know, mom and dad should be getting up and and going and investigate very quickly. Like one parent should go investigate the other parent, I would start towards the children. And if there actually is smoke, there is a problem. Everybody should be evacuating as quickly as possible. Leave leave everything behind.

27:14Nothing there can't be replaced. We cannot replace humans. We can place everything else. I understand that believe me as a firefighter, I've seen, you know, the tragedy of losing pictures and, you know, momentums and all of those things. However, I've also seen loss of life too as well. And there have been individuals that have ran back in the house and didn't come back out. And so in whether they went in for something or, you know, but there are times. So what I'm saying is when that smoke detector goes off, really what you should be having, you should have a meeting place outside because there are times that I have also seen too where, you know, fire grows so rapidly that you can't get out or they're going out the window or they're going out a different way. And or your parents can't get to the children because there's fire in the hallway. And so in that child should be taught what to do in that situation, right? Keep the door shut. Go open their window. Can they can they hang and drop from the second floor? I'd rather have them do that,

28:18right? So there are there are, you know, there are different techniques that that they can do or do you have a escape ladder at the window? There are things that you could purchase to to fortify your home for that. But also, you know, if you have a plan, an escape plan, it's like what would we do in the situation? And if that if you have anybody who gets outside of the house and they're not used the normal way that they would go out the front door or the back door or whatever it is. And but they're not just standing in the backyard when we show up. And mom and dad doesn't know where they are. They're screaming, you know, somebody's missing in the second floor. And and there was no plan on a meeting area. We usually say like the mailbox and the front yard somewhere where yeah, everyone knows is the meeting place so that even if it if a child were to get out, you know, go out a different way, they know where they're supposed to go. And that would be critically important when we show up because I know my five, I thought is they're going to do everything they can to get inside to find that find that person doesn't be you know mom, dad, baby, doesn't matter. They're

29:23going to do everything they can heroically to to try to find that person and say their life. And and there are times many times that I've been involved in, you know, searches of buildings. And we're going to go look for them anyway, but there's been times when you know, somebody said, hey, you know, we're missing this this person. And the reality was they were at the neighbors house. And they weren't at the meeting place. So that's important. Having one of the things I do as a fire prevention officer was going to the schools and we would actually teach the kids how to develop a fire safety plan for their house, how to get out an escape plan. And then what the meeting area, where they're meeting area, we actually had post a contest where the kids would draw their house and they draw the meeting area. So I think that's important too as well is that you know, involve your children. Let them know. Now I'm not talking about scared of the bejesus out of them, right? But let them know that hey, things happen. And all, all, you know, my favorite line to kids is all fires start small. If we can understand that now they do, but I will tell you there are

30:27things that create catastrophic events very quickly now. And those are lithium batteries. And these ebikes, like if you have an ebike and you're you're charging that ebike, put it in your shed, you know, don't put it in your house. That's just my recommendation. I've seen some pretty significant fires. If you watch go out and just google and watch some YouTube videos of these anything that you plug in to charge to ride, whether it be an ebike, whether it be a skateboard, one of those, you know, high those, those electric skateboards, they off gas very quickly when they overheat and then boom, combust right away quickly. That was a great video out there of a parent who a parent who is in the house with the kids when this thing lights off. And and because, you know, it could be because the unit was damaged, right, kids are doing tricks with it, the unit was damaged, the battery was damaged, and now it's repeatedly charging so it could be an

31:30issue. So like in our house, my kids had those little hoverboards and I would not allow them to be charged inside the house. We put them outside in the shed and they charge them out there. Yeah, that's a great point. I will ask you real quick because you triggered a question while you were talking. You know, we kind of have the standard smoke detector that is inside the house for the attic. What sort of smoke detector should we be using there? Do we need something that's different? What's the answer? Usually in the attic because it's unheated, we see heat detectors and you want high temperature heat detectors to depend where you live. Like here in the northeast, like around we've had a really warm summer here and we went to a few, you know, alarms going off and the first thing I tell my firefighters to go to the attic and check the detector because the the normal range is about 130 degrees but an attic can get a lot warmer than that. So depending on where you are, you may want to check what the temperature is, check with

32:32your local fight apartment. So they do have heat detectors that you can put up there. So I would suggest that, you know, whether it be a smoke detector, there's a lot of dust up there, there's a lot of things like that to trigger smoke detector. So I would recommend a heat up there. But yeah. Okay, yeah, that's great. I appreciate that because I haven't had a cure and I was like, you know, I really need to put something up there and I was like, you know what, bread knows me. It's just this question. I'll ask him. What is something that you have witnessed in your career? Where you said this thing saved their life, whether it was a tool or a person or knowledge, what is something that has triggered to you? I can attribute that this person is alive because of this. I think it's definitely knowledge and training and particularly around CPR. And the statistics are alarming. If you have an auto hospital cardiac arrest,

33:33the chance to survive ability goes down 10% for every minute someone is not doing CPR. Ooh, think about that now. So if you're not, if you don't know what to do, you're waiting for local fire in EMS and they're five minutes out and five minutes is a long time. And remember, brain death begins between four to six minutes. So an oxyc brain injury can happen and so if somebody's not doing something in the moment, then even if they don't know what they're doing, call 911, get dispatched on the phone, stop compressions. And so I think that piece, and I mean, that's the whole core of our book is around getting folks who are not trained in CPR, get trained in, be inspired by the story here because the stories of this in this book will absolutely inspire you to understand that people who are around, I call them proximity responders, people who are in the in the proximity of the emergency had some knowledge, skill and ability and and step forward in that willingness to act

34:40and change the outcome of generations. And that's that's something to think about. Yeah, absolutely. Tell me more about your book. You know, walk me through, you know, what it is and what people can take away from it. So the name of the book is called the saved effect. And it's really a play on the butterfly effect where if you're familiar with it or not familiar with it's really where these micro movements can have macro outcomes. And really it's a theory, right, that a butterfly in South America flaps its wings and change the weather pattern in Texas. And because of those small little micro movements changed everything that came after. Well, that's what the saved effect is all about. That's what our book title is, the saved effect. And these are all true stories. And their stories of individuals whose lives were saved whether it be bystanders acted right away and filled the gap time that Fire and EMS showed up or if it was Fire and EMS that that changed the outcome in the moment. There was there's some incredible

35:45stories in here, particularly one to really the book came about because here at our paramedic program, so I'm sitting at National Medical Education and Training Center. We're one of the largest EMT and paramedic schools in the country. I founded this company in 2010. And so here we are 16 years old. We have more than 12,000 plus graduates of EMTs and paramedics throughout the country. And so when I think about that resiliency and I think about all of that that goes on to train individuals and the impact that they have on future lives, it's incredible. And so I started to think about a story that's in the book of this individual whose name is Frank Nagel. And for every at every paramedic program that I was graduating, I was telling, I would give this talk called, what does it mean to save a life? And I would tell the Frank Nagel story. And I was involved in Frank's resuscitation in 1994. That's a great story. I won't spoil it for those who grab our book. But

36:51in in 1994, in the back of the ambulance, Frank went into cardiac arrest several times. And we shocked him several times. And Frank lived another 25 years, post-versuscitation. He died five times in the back of the ambulance. And there's another great story in there that John Perino story. And John went into cardiac arrest on the dance floor in a Polish club in Avitom, Massachusetts in 1997. And because of bystander CPR, two people came out of the crowd, started CPR, firing EMS showed up. I happened to be working that day. We did more than 30 plus minutes of CPR on John. And in my world, the chances of availability was less than 1%, probably less than a half for John. John was saved that night and lived another 27 years.

37:53And you think about all the birthdays and anniversaries and celebrations, but how he influenced his children and his children's children. And John got to see his help raise his grandchildren and got to meet his great grandchildren. So you think about the impact of a life being saved in the ripple effect that that has. Like the butterfly effect, we have no idea. There's an incredible story in there about Madeline Jackman. Madeline was eight years old and she choked on a piece of steak in a restaurant while she was with her family on vacation in Lake Wynapisaki. And because someone within the restaurant knew what to do, saved Madeline's life. And it's a great story about what Madeline did after that. She was only eight. She's now 18. And one key thing that's not in the book because we didn't know it when it went to print was Madeline got into Harvard and started her freshman year this year. That's awesome.

38:57So she was eight years old. She was saved. She went on to massively impact not only her high school, but she's worked with a senator here in Massachusetts to try to get CPR, a requirement for graduation because there are seven states in the United States, including and one of them is Massachusetts where we don't have a requirement for CPR training for high school graduates. So she's worked with her senator trying to change policy, trying to change the education curriculum. And at the end of the day, we have no idea what Madeline's going to do in her life. But because she was saved that day, the ripples continue. And so that and there's a story, I have to story in our book about some of these individuals and the impact that their life being saved had. So if you learn anything and you think about that, right, we have 350,000 out of hospital cardiac arrest every single year in the United States. Karen and I were just down in DC in July. And we were there at the,

39:58they had a national CPR and AED rally on the national mall. And we got to meet and stand in a room with more than a hundred survivors and their families. And these folks are still living because someone knew what to do. That's right. Yeah, man. That's a saved effect. I love that. Great title, man. Great title. Yeah, that is inspirational. And I appreciate you sharing one how to do some stuff. But the underlying message in our conversation today has been be prepared. Be ready. Be that person who steps up, man. That is that is awesome. So Brad, thank you so much for your time. Today, I've learned a lot from you. I've appreciated talking to you. Where can people find out more about you and your book? They can find a book on anywhere they buy books, right? Whether it be Amazon, Barnes and Noble, it's everywhere. And so the saved effect, we also have you can go to our website, thesaveeffect.com.

41:00And right now for the next week, I don't know when this will be aired, but for the next probably a couple of weeks, if you go to our website, if you want you purchase the book, if you go back to our website, fill out the form, we'll send you the free audio book that we are giving away right now, as well as the digital copy so you can get it pretty quickly. There's some other bonuses there as well as the free CPR video and choking video that we produced for that book. There's a QR code in the book too, you can scan. And by the way, the choking video, the Heimlich maneuver is taught by Madeline Jackman. Oh, wow. That's great. That is great. Well, Brad, man, I appreciate you for what you're doing. You're running this school, your fireman. I don't know when you sleep, but I appreciate you being out there, man, and God bless you. Thank you very much. Thank you for the discussion, Andy. Appreciate you having me here today. Well, that's everything that we have for the secure family podcasts for

42:07today. Thank you, friend, for listening. Thanks again to Brad for being on the show. For more about him and his book, visit thesavedaffect.com. Take back your privacy and personal data with help from DeletMe. Get 20% off a privacy plan when using the code DadACheckout. DeletMe is the official data removal service of the Secure Dad. If you enjoyed this episode or learned something new today, I'd be grateful if you'd follow the show, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform, or leave a five star review. If you'd like to know more about the Secure Dad, join me on Instagram at TikTok. My username for both platforms is the Secure Dad. And of course, my website is thesecuredad.com. I'm Andy Murphy reminding you that our safety is our own responsibility.