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I'm your host, Chris McGregor.
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The subject we're going to address now is one that I approached with a great deal of
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enthusiasm, but then as I pounded it, I became apprehensive because I thought to myself,
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what really ultimately does this mean for me?
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It's applying the rule in a place of confusing life patterns as opposed to the security of
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You really have to look, what are the confusing life patterns?
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What is that and how can you possibly get some of them under control?
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I think we human beings are succeeding in creating our very own world.
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We make our world, which is wonderful and also part of the task the creator has given
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However, sometimes we don't realize that we go too far or don't think about the consequences
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of what we are doing.
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Let me take an example.
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So there is a natural, healthy balance between light and darkness, between day and night.
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This is just a natural rhythm.
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We have created electricity, which is wonderful.
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And that makes us independent from light or darkness.
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So because we can make light in our rooms even at night and can continue to live like
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a day and we can shut our windows or we can close our shades and make it dark in our rooms
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and pretend to have night.
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In the 19th century, when the street lightening, the street lamps were introduced in Rome,
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the Pope said, I am against that.
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He wanted to forbid street lightening.
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As we see, he has not succeeded in doing so, nobody wanted to follow him.
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And what I found interesting is that he had already the sense there is something fundamental
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So when you make day out of night, so this is one fundamental change we have experienced
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during the last 200 years.
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Another one is weekday, working day and Sunday.
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So for our industries and also for the sake of customer service, we got used to work all
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So in a way, we have given up the Sunday.
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So for the machines, the robots and the engines, for them it is the best if they work all
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the time and we have kind of to serve them nowadays.
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And as a consequence, we have lost, at least partly, the Sunday, the Holy Day, the day
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when we stop working.
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I don't know how many million people have to work on Sundays or holidays in order to
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have the others to rest.
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But anyway, we have messed up with Sunday, the Sabbath in a way and weekdays.
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And the same is true also for the seasons when you think about summer and winter.
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Again, what accomplishment to have an air condition?
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What a accomplishment to have a heating?
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I cannot actually, I cannot imagine to live here in Nebraska without an air condition,
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But it is that a couple generations before us, they lived without it, don't ask me how
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they really could do this.
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And in a way, we have lost the contact, this is the flip side now, the contact to our,
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to the seasons, to the change of seasons, to the temperatures.
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So if you don't want to, you don't have to experience seasons anymore.
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To live in your house, your car is parked in your house.
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So you enter your car, you drive wherever you want to go.
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So you don't have to leave a heated space or an air condition space.
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So you don't have to go outside anymore.
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Which is, as I said, in a way, which is really an accomplishment, I don't want to go back.
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But what it means is that we are not so close anymore to the seasons.
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But the seasons are a natural rhythm given by God.
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So we, we, we human beings even succeed in changing our climate as we probably know.
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It's probably caused by us.
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It has always changed, but this time it seems that it is, the impact is even bigger.
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So as for the, for the human beings, again, it is not about being subject to the nature.
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It is good that we use the nature.
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But on the other hand, the nature offers us things we need for our lives as human beings,
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because we as human beings are still part of nature.
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We need the rhythm of day and night.
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We need to rest weekday Sunday.
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We need to have these changes in temperatures in colors.
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When we look outside, you know, is it green?
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That is good for our eyes.
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It is good for our skin to feel the different temperatures.
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It is good probably for our heart for everything to have these changes.
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Some people here in Nebraska have told me what they especially appreciate is that here
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in Nebraska, we still have all seasons, all four seasons.
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Their parts in the world where the seasons are not as, as different.
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But what I want to say is, as we have distanced ourselves from this natural rhythms, we have
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become, we are in danger now to mess up our whole life anyway.
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Or think about our calendar.
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This is another thing.
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Today we live according to outlook.
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We organize our lives with a smartphone.
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And sometimes as for a family, it is really not easy to organize everything you need in
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Otherwise you get to keep everything.
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But then we change our appointments back and forth.
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And so you cannot live without this calendar anymore, but think about how much our brain
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and our mind is occupied with organizing the most simple things.
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So we have to organize day and night and Sunday and weekday and the seasons instead of
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just letting it happen.
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We could go with the seasons instead of always organizing it.
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This goes back to when I originally approached this.
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I had thought that I was looking at it from the end point I now realize that my life has
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gotten chaotic because of all of the scheduling and all the things I feel I need to do and all
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But what you've helped me to see is that it actually goes, you have to look not from that
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point, but way back to the start point of how as humans we were designed a certain way.
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And we have altered the very basic way of how we were designed to operate so that the
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end result is that chaos in our life.
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Because even the rhythm of waking and sleeping and experiencing just the world around us,
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To go without power for one night, it literally chaos descends into a home and into the person.
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Imagine a calendar, an outlook calendar somehow disappears.
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The absolute panic and the anxiety and the disgruntledness that comes for.
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But that's just the end result of something that we lost side of a long time ago.
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To give you a taste, housing Benedict approaches this topic in chapter 41, he writes,
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from the 13th of September to the beginning of Lent, they always take their meal in mid
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Finally, from the beginning of Lent to Easter, they eat towards evening.
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But fespers be celebrated early enough so that there is no need for a lamp while eating,
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and that everything can be finished by daylight.
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Indeed, at all times, let's supper or the hour of the fast day meal be so scheduled that
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everything can be done by daylight.
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So it's interesting that even at Benedict's times, they had lamps already, so they could
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eat also with the light of lamps.
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But it seems that he schedules the life of the community along the lines of the light
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of the day and of the natural light.
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So we even can imagine that he didn't always pray vespers at, let's say, 6pm or so,
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that even the liturgy of the hours, not only the meals, that he scheduled everything around
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So why don't go to bed when it is getting dark?
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By the way, you find this still in Africa, this was really expressive for me when I was
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there as a missionary of Benedictine, that because of the lack of electricity, people
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just go to bed at night.
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So they go with this natural rhythm and think Benedict, this is what is reflected here
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once us as monks, too, to live in harmony with the nature.
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It will live in harmony with your surroundings.
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I think that's very key.
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As it is, the reason this is so relevant is that this isn't just a sign for that area
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of Europe which Benedict experienced.
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But I mean, you would have Aria Iceland where there is perpetual daylight sometimes or areas
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where there is a lack of a change of seasons as you've spoken before to the southern portions
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of the United States.
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And yet, if you're in tune with those areas, there are differences.
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They're not always the same.
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There is some type of nuance that if you're akin to it, and usually there's a gift associated
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with those changes, too, there's something to be had.
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And this is how a Benedictine day is structured.
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It is always changing, alternating.
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So we start in the morning at 6 o'clock in Skylar at Chrysler King Priory with Vigil and
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Then we have time for spiritual reading.
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Then we go to work.
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Then we go to the Eholy Eucharist at 1115.
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Then we have our noon prayer, midday prayer.
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Then after a little nap, we go to work again.
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Then we have Vesperset 6, praying again.
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And then we eat and we pray complex.
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So there is this alternating way of praying, working, resting.
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And this is captured in this classic motto all right, laborer, pray and work.
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This is how we, when Dickens are mostly seen, this kind of summarizes our life, pray and
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And this is a wonderful motto.
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Because it has this change, so don't pray all the time.
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Don't work all the time.
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A conferee once said to me, what is the most important work in this model, pray and work?
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And his answer was, the most important work is and it's interesting.
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You will think it is pray, actually Saint Benedict says, we should always have priority
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So work is even not as important as prayer.
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So the first priority is praying.
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But then it is important this at this end to connect finally, prayer with work and work
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So while changing back and forth, we bring our work, our daily lives into prayer.
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We just come, for example, the best example is noonday prayer, midday prayer.
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We come from our work, we are still full of thoughts, worries, whatever and pray.
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So we can bring what we have just experienced into our prayer.
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And filled with the silence of prayer, with the encounter of God, with his love, with
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his encouragement, with his grace, we can get out again and do our work.
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So finally, our work becomes prayerful, filled with God's grace.
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And our prayer sometimes actually also is work.
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So as we dicted, sometimes we pray pretty much.
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So sometimes it's just work.
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Now I have to pray, it's just part of our life.
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But the beauty is in this change, in this back and forth and back and forth.
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And it is so basic, it is so fundamental that you can do it all at all times.
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This I find always fascinating that, you know, there are so many orders, religious orders,
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and every order has its very own characteristic and motto.
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But I think a reason that our order still exists is that our motto is so basic and so simple.
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So you can apply this at all times.
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Think about the political situations in Europe and in the world during the last 1500 years.
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So there were kingdoms and different political systems and situations.
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And what was going on in the monks just continued in pray and work and pray and work and
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pray and work because you can do this all the time.
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The same is true for the situation of the church.
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The church went through good times and bad times.
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But what you can always do is pray and work and pray and work.
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And this is the rhythm.
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This gives us this balance and this connects us with our basic needs as human beings to
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be in this world and at the same time, not in this world.
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The danger can become when the work then takes precedent over the prayer and that somehow
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the prayer can be set aside.
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Even the farmers in the field, I love the wonderful manuscript illuminations that the
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Benedictines passed down to us along with their beautiful transcriptions of scripture.
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But they would have these images and it was usually of the countryside, of the people,
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of the changing of the seasons.
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And most often, sometimes them stopping to pray in the middle of the field at noon time.
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It was so important.
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I think maybe we began to really lose that with the Industrial Revolution, that even
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in a city that is surrounding a large church in the middle of its populace, there's no
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longer a response to the tolling of a bell.
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We still do this today as monks.
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We interrupt our work when we hear the bell ringing the full hour.
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We just stop for a minute, pause and pray.
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That is very powerful because it really helps you to see that the work is not as important
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as you always think it is.
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You know, by the way, your work becomes even more efficient afterwards because you have
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As you said, this is really our experience as monks to put work as a prayer, as a priority
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Whereas if you have work as the most important thing in your life, I don't know if this
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is so really what God wanted us to do.
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If I could take the conversation in just a little bit, a path that parallels us in
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some ways, is that those who will do work, which they consider is good work, and what
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they may feel is what God wants them to do because it is a good thing.
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But as St. Catherine of Sienna, somebody I know you have tremendous love for, would
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say from the dialogues a father would say, you do so many good things, but they're not
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necessarily what I've asked you to do.
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So there's not really a godly good.
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It's a good thing, but it's not necessarily what he's asked us because we haven't taken
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You know, as monks, we try to live a contemplative life.
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And so we very much try to live according to this Martha and Mary, Gospel passage, this
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beautiful story, and when Jesus clearly stated that Mary had chosen the better part.
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So to pause, to rest, to listen, sometimes is really the thing you should do.
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And as monks, we sense that because of the situation in our world, for so many people,
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lay people, families, it is so difficult to have these pauses.
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Because of that, we see it as our duty to pray for all of them, for all those.
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That was from the very beginning.
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The monks from the very beginning saw this as their task.
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They said, somebody has to pray while others are working in order to help to balance
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again, to balance this, that the Holy Spirit may be with them, that they may be protected,
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that the grace of God may be with them.
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So we want to make this world be more prayerful.
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But as you said, finally, is this the task of every Christian to not to forget prayer,
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and to give prayer the priority over the work.
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But again, sometimes the work can be the prayer as well.
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Well, this would all ultimately take us back to one of our discussions on responding
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to the needs of others.
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And it's all integrated, isn't it?
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It's ultimately in this great net that Benedict has woven for us.
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I love the location of our monastery here in Skyler.
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So we, the monastery is built on this hill, the mission hill, and I am able to look
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down, to see down to Skyler to the town.
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And when I see the houses and the plant and everything and the cars, the trucks on the
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highway, that helps me and reminds me to pray for all these people.
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We all belong together and everybody does his part.
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This is the beauty of the church, too, that we share our different tasks.
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So as Benedict and we try to really keep this balance and to give priority to a prayer.
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Any final thoughts, Father?
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What I laugh in our daily schedule as Benedict is that we really keep this schedule.
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So I have been in the monastery for 28 years now.
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And I have experienced only one change of the daily schedule.
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The reason is, in order to change our daily schedule, monastic schedule, it needs a two-third
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So when the chapter comes together, chapters, the gathering of all final professed monks,
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and we want to change, for example, to get up later in the morning or whatever or earlier,
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that needs this change of daily schedule, would need a two-third majority, which is a high
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And so what I just want to say is, the daily schedule in the monastery is kind of sacred.
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It is, you don't discuss it, you don't complain about it, you just go along with it.
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Kind of similar as you try to go along with the changes of the nature and your environment.
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Thank you so much, Father.
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