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with the first two games of the first four.

We get two more tomorrow night, including Miami of Ohio

and SM U tomorrow night.

Howard opens up the tournament tonight against UMBC.

I may have a smell test pick on that at the end of the show.

We'll do some brackets on the show today,

but it is that time of year where it is popular to hate Duke.

They are one of the most polarizing teams in sports.

No doubt, my question to all of you.

What's the team in your lifetime that you've despised the most

and what are the reasons why?

For me, it's close, but the Cowboys would be one

because I think I hated them first.

I hated them the longest.

They broke my heart probably more often than any other team.

For me, there is no heartbreak.

It's the number one all-time heartbreak for me

as a sports fan.

The 1979 season ender at Texas Stadium

when the Cowboys came from 13 down,

down 34 to 21 in the final two and a half minutes of the game

and they beat Washington 35, 34.

Washington was eliminated from the playoffs altogether.

If they had won the game, they would have been the one seed.

They would have hosted throughout the NFC playoffs

and would have been favored to get to the Super Bowl.

That loss was absolutely the dagger of all daggers,

but the Cowboys provided so many of those.

The Clint Longley game, which famously for me

and some of you who have listened to the story over the years

nearly killed Scott Van Pelt's grandfather.

He was popping heart pills during the game

when Longley threw the last touchdown pass he keeled over.

He survived, but the ambulance came,

resuscitated him and Scott was forever traumatized in his life.

But we had all of those games.

Even as you got older, the Rocket-ish mile game,

for sure, one of the all-time crazy finishes.

We had them throughout.

Cowboys number one for me.

It's pretty much self-explanatory.

What's number one for you?

I describe Big Tony as one of the all-time bandwagon fans

in my life.

I love Big Tony.

He's a wonderfully human being, but he roots for,

let's count him.

The San Antonio Spurs, the Pittsburgh Steelers,

the Montreal Canadians, Duke,

and who else am I missing from that list?

What's going on, Oshari?

What's up, Shari, Shaw?

Hey, look here.

First of all, if you call it that call,

Kermaine is a little younger than me.

His sister is like one year younger than me,

but he's a little bit younger.

He went to Whitman, him Spike Jones,

and there's a couple other cats out in Hollywood

doing big things.

Kevin High School for me, Walt Williams at Crossland.

It was Whitman, Whitman went to the States every year,

and every year,

Whitman went two years in a row.

First of all, they didn't go to the States every year, okay?

They went to the States that first year

and lost to Walt Williams and Cole Fieldhouse

in the final against Crossland.

That was Marty Dickerson's first state final team.

But why Crossland?

They're not even a county team.

Because of Walt Williams, man.

That just hurt me, Slim.

But anyway, okay, this would happen, Kevin.

What?

Pittsburgh played Dallas in 75, I guess, for the Super Bowl.

Maybe in 76.

And after that, my uncle bought me all Pittsburgh stuff

from the JC Penny catalog game of Brother Dallas.

So every year, he would give us a little,

you know, steal a uniform, cowboy uniform,

and it just stopped.

Okay, with the Spurs,

well, my uncle, if y'all know about George Garvin,

he was a, that's it, he was in a pharmaceutical.

And my uncle was a pharmaceutical salesman.

And I never knew nothing about him.

And I met him back in about 78.

Yeah, yes, indeed, about 78.

With the Montreal Canadians, I lived in Rockville.

And one day I had to take out the trash

and I went to the dumpster.

And there was a Montreal Canadian hockey stick

and a mask sitting there.

And I took it, I didn't take, I didn't wear the mask.

I just took it.

And I used to play hockey with the little Montreal Canadian stick.

And that was probably 77 or something.

And it just stopped.

My baseball team is the Orioles with Bumbrian Singleton

and Murray and Loan Stein and just the Audem.

My college basketball team was Michigan

because I used to lay a Gary Grant and Romeo Robinson in them.

But other than that, man, you take it easy, Charlie.

Well, no, wait a minute.

Hold on.

What did you tell me, the team that you did,

oh, Crosland is number one.

Oh, and if we don't do probes, it's the Ravens.

I can't stand them.

And they think, I mean, we don't sweat them.

And everybody say, oh, they're so much better.

But every year we sweep them and just look at the record.

But, you know, I'll tell you what, man,

you drove a long way for those explanations.

I'm not going to lie to you.

And other than the Orioles, none of them really stick with me.

Even the Steelers thing, you were old enough

at that point to be a Redskins fan to be a hometown fan.

I was five or six.

No, my uncle was a Redskins fan.

So he, you know, you got to have the division

in the household, man.

Everybody can't like the same team.

Why not?

Why is that a thing?

I understand it's the thing in some households,

but it doesn't have to be a thing.

Family's root for the same team.

Live and die with them.

Put it this way.

You walk in my house because you ain't got

on black and gold.

You can get out.

I'll tell you exactly.

All right.

I'll hurt you, man.

All right, boy, big Tony, everybody.

Let's go to Brian and Tacoma Park.

Brian, the team that you've hated the most

during your lifetime and the reasons why.

Well, Kevin, I'm sorry for big Tony.

We at Springbrook, we'd love Crossland for obvious reasons.

What Williams, Anthony Hagen-Batham,

we'll see them anytime.

We'd love Crossland.

But, but Crossland was not Springbrook's big rival.

Springbrook, by the way, they weren't arrival at all.

They weren't arrival at all,

but they were a nice door mat to the state championship.

So we'd love Crossland for that reason.

Like Whitman's big rival when I was at Whitman was Churchill.

And BCC to a slightly lesser degree.

Who was Springbrook's big rival?

I hope you, I hope, could be combinations, Blair,

paint branch.

Yeah.

Listen, I hope you told your kids about Bob coming for it.

Bob, Bobby could play.

There's no doubt about that.

Bobby could play.

That was a shootin' mo-oh.

Yeah.

But real quickly, just out of curiosity,

is paint branch still a high school or not?

Yes.

It is, okay.

I remember playing, I remember playing at that gym.

That team was tough.

Springbrook was iconic, though, man,

playing in that arena with the light blue and the uniforms.

You guys, Springbrook really from a sports standpoint?

I would say from Montgomery County schools

might be kind of the most all-time historical and iconic.

I mean, Seneca Valley's unbelievable football

range during the 70s, 80s, 90s, et cetera, is up there.

And Blair and BCC for almost different reasons.

But go ahead.

Give me the team you've hated the most

during your lifetime and why.

I'm going to say it's Duke because of how they were branded.

I mean, on TV, and by pundits and coach K,

they always said they'd play the right way.

They played the right way.

And we'd be watching the games, and you'd see

Latener stomping on a mean who tumble-like.

Or Gerald Henderson breaking Tyler Hansbrook's nose

or Kyle Singler elbowing somebody for no reason on the floor.

And that was before the flagrant foul

was even the part of the game.

They just had double technicals.

So fast forward, coach K realized,

because he wasn't winning titles at the time.

He realized that he had to recruit and bring in players

that he never would have in the past.

He had to get the one and done.

He had to get the guys with the tattoos.

He had to get the guys that were into the branding.

And the AAU guys that I think those players should be credited

the most for cementing his legacy as winning championships.

And that's just kind of, that's really why I hated them,

because when we were told just how much they weren't as athletic,

they weren't always as gifted, but they played the right way.

And we're watching games where nobody ever said,

well, these guys are playing like bugs.

There's no place for that in the game.

They just kind of let them do it.

Yeah.

Yeah, there are a lot of us that were

on the wrong side of a lot of those calls.

And the Duke people will say, well,

they dealt with the same thing with Carolina.

And the Carolina whistle was a real deal before Kay and Duke

became.

I mean, basically it was Dean Smith and then Coach Kay.

And Carolina got the benefit of the doubt

in a Carolina-centric league.

And then when Kay came around and he started to beat Carolina

and he started to win national championships,

they started to get the benefit of the doubt

of the favor of the whistle.

But Dean got it long before Kay got it.

Yeah, I don't think they talk enough about the fact

that Coach Kay rejected Michael Jordan.

Yeah.

What do you give him a call?

I should write up a nice letter.

All right.

Appreciate the call.

Let's go to Rick.

Rick, the team that during your lifetime

you've despised the most and the reasons why.

Yeah, but I need you to tap into your memory bank on this one.

The 2010, 2012, dumping off the solder cap.

The New York Giants.

We should be doubted for 2012.

Mara, Mara, turned in Washington, turned in New Orleans

and turned in Dallas.

You're right.

They're Mara family penalty.

Yeah, the Mara family pushed the commission

to analyze us, hated Giants every sense.

It used to be Dallas, the Giants.

I see I have nightmares.

Well, it could have been that year without losing

36 million K.

36 million in salary cap space on the eve of free agency.

Yeah.

You want to get Mike Shanahan just seething

Bruce Allen too, by the way.

That's the subject because they never saw it coming.

The league remember in that uncapped year

there was some collusion.

Don't spend big on free agents.

That's not what Washington did.

Washington took contracts like

D'Angelo Hall's contract rolled them into a year

to get the benefit of salary cap space

for the contracts they already had.

And they got absolutely crushed

by the league courtesy of John Mara,

who turned in Washington, Dallas first.

And then New Orleans, I think, was the third team

that felt the sting of that.

By the way, if they knew that that was going to happen, Rick,

before 2012's off season,

I don't think they ever make the trade with the Rams

to move up to number two to take RG3.

Yep, I hated Giants ever since, Kevin.

And I don't think I like as blue as the skies ever since.

Okay, thanks, Rick.

Appreciate it.

Let's go to Jeff in Vienna, Jeff, the team

that you've hated despised throughout your lifetime

and the reasons why.

Happy Tuesday, Kevin.

You too, Jeff.

Growing up in Cincinnati, obviously easily,

the Mel Blunt, Jack Lambert Steelers,

the Garvey St. Lopez Dodgers against the big red machine.

Right.

And then you and I were in College Park at the same time.

And at O2, at the game, Maryland, at Cameron,

I actually met Kenny Denart.

And I said, you know, you found him, right?

And he goes, oh, he would have missed the free throws anyway.

You know, the typical condescending, dukey type stuff.

You know, but I think everybody else pointed out

a couple things, you know,

late nurse should not have even been in that game

and make that basket obvially.

And the thing, one of the most condescending things

I've thought about Duke all the time was the handshake line

when Coach K would go through there

and pat everybody on the chat.

Pat everybody on, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

There were a couple of times when I was at Cole,

I was like, I'm gonna run out there on the floor

and just hop in.

You know, after a win, he did it after a loss occasionally too.

But after a win, he'd just sit there

and tell Gary what a special team he has.

What a great effort his kids.

Yeah, it was, and those press conferences

following wins especially in Cole,

because he'll tell you, Cole or Xfinity,

when they came up here in one, it was extra special

because of the absolute snake pit that they were entering

and to quiet the fans and the whole thing.

But then just that he'd list the players that were so special.

They were just, I mean, Steve Blake and Juan Dixon

and Lonnie Baxter and by removed time.

They're just special.

Terrence Morris is special.

It just got to be so old,

especially the final four,

when Bouser clearly should have fouled out

and Baxter should have been in that game

and it would have been a difference maker for sure.

Well, yeah, if you were there and you remember

they handed out seat cushions for that,

and my buddy next to me at the Metro dome

just heave that thing like that one Redskin game

when the seat cushions went flying down on the field.

I do.

Oh, I have a question for you

because you grew up in Cincinnati, right?

Yeah, yep.

So one of my all time favorite,

so the Steelers, and I remember the Bengals

and the Steelers, you know, the Ken Anderson teams.

I remember there was a snow game in the late 70s

at Riverfront that was incredible.

But the Sam Whitech grabbing, you know,

the PA and saying, you know,

you don't live in Cleveland living Cincinnati

and tell them to start behaving like Bengals fans,

not Browns fans.

The Browns rivalry was a massive one

for the Bengals as well, right?

Well, there wasn't all the dirty play

from the Browns that we always got from the Steelers.

The Browns rivalry was there just because of Paul Brown

and all the history and everything,

but when you got Mel Blunt clothesline

and Ken Anderson 14 yards out of bounds,

you know, with no penalties and stuff like that,

and plus, you know, kind of like the Maryland Duke rivalry.

For a while, the Bengals couldn't beat the Steelers,

so it wasn't really a rivalry,

but we always thought it was, you know, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, this Cincinnati team just, none of those teams.

I mean, Houston got closest

because they were back to back AFC championship games

against the Steelers.

Thanks, Jeff, appreciate that.

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Well, the next person that sees anybody throw anything

out of this field, point them out and get them out of here.

You don't let them clean away.

Get them out of here.

Sam White.

90s, one of the all-time great taking over the PD.

It had to be the referee, Mike,

because it's not like they got a PA mic on the field, right?

The referee gave him his mic and he just in one fell swoop

eviscerated the Cleveland Browns fan base.

Sam Whitech, I looked this up.

I thought he had passed away, passed away six years ago now.

He was a red skin quarterback, third stringer.

He was on the 71, 72 and 73 teams with Billy and Sonny.

He was the third string quarterback and then in 74,

they signed Joe Thysman.

And Thysman became the third string quarterback

and also a punt returner.

Yes, Thysman was a punt returner.

In 1974.

The question for all of you on the phone lines,

at 301-230-0980, what's the team during your lifetime

that you despise the most and what are the reasons why?

Dale and Fairfax has been on hold for a while.

Dale, go ahead.

I don't know if you guys are amateurs at hate,

who's all I can say.

The team I dislike more than anything else is BYU.

You're Utah guy.

BYU is the most insufferable fan base of all time.

I guess it starts when you're like seven years old

and start getting proselytized on the playground.

And then by the time you finally get to the U,

they creamed this year after year after year.

It was a team that was just unbelievable.

They had such good talent.

When it came to basketball, they had three-year-old

playing together.

Yeah, they still do.

I mean, you know what?

Honestly, this is a rivalry I'm somewhat familiar with,

but I'm not, you know, like you are.

But the Holy War for people that have experienced BYU

and Utah, and when they play in football every year,

the intensity, the feel of that game

when you're watching it really is insane.

So that really is, that must have been incredible

to be a part of it.

You're saying that Utah, because of all the BYU success

in football, for sure, before Utah ever had it, right?

Before they ever had it.

Yeah.

Well, actually, we controlled them from like the 1920s.

The fact some war hero, we got a congressional medal

of honor from BYU, he had played for the football team.

His one true dream was them to beat Utah once.

Were they any good, no back in this, in normal, you know,

last 50 years, were they good before Urban Meyer or not, ever?

No, Utah's football teams were dismal.

When I went to graduate school, I'd be sitting at the Marriott,

yet, the Marriott Library, and I hear the game start.

And about, I knew what halftime was about.

I take them to throw my books and stuff in my car.

And there were so few people there I could just walk in

and sit in like the first or second row.

It was dismal football.

It was horrible.

The back of the ball, I always had a problem.

I had a question for you, because I don't know the answer

to this.

I've talked to Cooley about it.

Utah State, you know, was not all Latter-day Saints.

It was not all Mormon.

BYU is, as we know.

But what was the, what was Utah?

What was the breakdown, religion-wise, do you know?

Probably about 71% LDS, I mean, it was, you know,

it's a majority, you know, they had a seminary on campus.

They had a bunch of things.

But it was still, even the Mormons that went to Utah,

still feel it, you know, the second level of everything.

To give you an example, and to give the people

on the phone an example, this happened.

I think it was either six or 10 years ago.

I can't remember, because it all blurs together.

Utah was playing the football game with a BYU,

and we scored a touchdown, and our cheerleaders, you know,

hoisted a big red U flag, and was waving it back and forth.

The BYU cheerleaders, even the male cheerleaders, by the way,

ran over and tore it out their hands.

It ended up in a fist fight that the police had to break up.

This is the cheerleaders.

We hate them.

That was crazy.

Yeah, good enough to.

Not in Utah, man.

That actually, though, I've heard from some of the people

that I know that are really, you know,

in tune with college football.

They say that BYU Utah, the Holy War, is special to be at.

Dale, good one.

That's your football and basketball in Italy weeks.

It doesn't matter what.

That there is nothing like the rivalry between those two teams.

And it's far from all concerned, because of where I grew up,

I hate the Cowboys, and I hate the Broncos.

Because growing up, I'd have to watch the Cowboys and the Broncos.

Exclusively.

Every prick in the week, it was, you know, four times a year.

I might see teams I actually wanted to see.

Thanks, Dale.

Good call.

Appreciate it.

Let's go to JR.

JR, team that you've despised the most during your lifetime and why.

Hey, Kevin.

Thanks for taking my call, buddy.

You're a match.

Sure, JR.

It's no today.

And the reason why is they think they better than everybody else.

And they're a bunch of crime, wild and baby.

To me, every year, they have something to cry about.

And when they face the best teams, they get beat all the time.

Really bad.

But anyway, they're a bunch of wild boys playing football to me.

But Kevin, I got one question of you don't mind me asking.

Sure.

You're going to clear up a bet between me and a buddy.

It's about basketball.

OK.

Do you think that you could have a high school boys basketball team

with at least one or two D1 players?

Do you think they can be a WNBA or a team of women?

Oh, God.

We're going to get into this.

Yeah, and buy a lot.

And anybody that knows basketball knows what the answer to that question is.

And I don't know why people are afraid to say it.

They're just different sports completely.

They're the same sport.

They're just played much differently.

Yes, of course.

The PVI team that I watched this year,

and that's more than one or two D1 players.

But yeah, I mean, it's different.

You're talking about massive size difference, physical differences.

One game's played even at the high school level above the rim a lot of the time.

It's just not really anybody that knows the answer to that knows the answer to that.

Anybody that's been involved in playing coaching, I don't know why we've been so hesitant to say it.

Yeah, it wouldn't be close.

So there you go.

I don't know if I won the bet for you or for your friend.

Let's go to Cole in Silver Spring.

Cole, go ahead.

Well, good morning, Kevin.

For me, Ben O N S E E Tid, for me, it was the Arizona Cardinals.

What?

Taylor was going to.

Really?

Why?

Because of Mel Gray?

Oh, he's the main culprit.

And also that also is a line.

Jim.

Yes, you do.

I don't know.

You remember that game.

I think it was it was a Monday night game.

And the Mel Gray catch, not catch type of thing.

It ended up winning the controversial game.

The rest got together.

Said it would be good.

Of course, I remember it.

Chris Washington, a playoff berth in 1975.

Oh, my.

Go watch.

Anybody.

Anybody wants to see just how replay would have affected, you know, games in the 70s?

The gold richer, the butch Johnson touchdown pass in Super Bowl is at 10 or 11, the Cowboys

over the Broncos.

He doesn't even have it in his hands for even a split second.

They called it a touchdown in Mel Gray's catch that forced over time in a Cardinals

Redskins game at Bush Stadium in 1975, Pat Fisher knocks the ball out of his hands.

He never has it.

Washington goes to the playoffs that year.

Instead they called it a catch after the referees huddled and decided that they would give

the Cardinals the touchdown.

Yeah.

But I still never had the despise for the Cardinals that I had for the Cowboys.

I hate those white uniforms.

I hate those little bird.

I hate that red bird.

I mean, they had some change.

I mean, they did.

They did.

They did.

They did.

They had some genius every now and then they beat the Eagles like a drum.

Oh.

Cory L's teams were good.

Hanuffin had some teams that were really good.

But you're right.

The Deer Dorf Conrad Dober, those O'Lines, Terry Metcalf, Jim Hart, they had some good teams.

No doubt about it.

They did.

Yeah.

Do you remember what we had?

I think that John Riggins game.

I think it was 1979 Jack Party.

We lost the Dallas.

The Cardinals that got blown up by the Bears.

Yeah.

That was his point differential son.

Weird point differential.

We couldn't have lost that game because the Cardinals laid down.

Yeah.

We missed the playoffs.

Yeah.

If the Cardinals, if the Bears, if the Bears won by more than 42 points, Washington would

be knocked out completely by a loss.

It was point differential on the wild card between the Bears and the Redskins and they won

by 44 points.

And the Cardinals just laid down.

Yeah.

All right.

Those are good reasons.

And the after effects after that, John Riggins sits up the next hit, Jack Party, get

fired.

Yeah.

We end up getting gives in the Redskins.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Honestly, I've had that conversation.

I remember having that conversation with Bobby Bethard when he was alive with Charlie, it

is true that if they win that game, which was the biggest and biggest heartbreak game

of my sports rooting lifetime, the 79 season finale against the Cowboys.

But if they win that game, we probably don't get Gibbs.

Thanks.

Because they would have been in the postseason.

They may have gone to the Super Bowl.

Party doesn't get fired after the next season because Rigo comes back and Gibbs doesn't

coach here in starting in 81 Carl.

Thanks for holding.

Go ahead.

And the most despised hated team of your lifetime, personally, and the reasons why.

And thanks for taking my call.

It's got to be the Cowboys on me.

I'm 54 years old.

Yeah.

Like everybody said, that's 79 game.

I'm the more watching that.

And I remember, you know, I just thought about taking them down the field, don't touch

down.

We was for the Tony Hill.

We caught the ball.

Tony Hill.

Yeah.

42 seconds left.

And then they let the clock tick off after Thysman threw to Donnie Warren.

They were in field goal range.

You would have been a 58 yarder for Mosley, but he had the leg and they, they're screaming

time out.

And with two seconds to go, clock ticks off.

That just goes to show you how imprecise the game was back then.

There was no replay.

There was no clock, you know, you know, check.

They just, the hometown clock operator ticked off the final two seconds and Mosley never

got to attempt that field goal.

Yes.

And also, I think it's like, Duke is a close second to me, so I'm being my own fan, so

Duke is definitely up there.

But the unique thing about the cowboy ride with me is we are surrounded by our enemies here.

That's, I don't know, any other fan base, but the most part.

And then I felt who has their direct rival, right in this city all the time.

Hey, your brother could be a cowboy fan.

Your cousins could be a cowboy.

Now my best friend was a cowboy fan going on.

Do you think we, do you think we're exposed to that more than Philly or more than New

York is?

I do.

I do, Kevin.

I really do.

Especially in this area.

I firmly believe that we do.

It does seem like there are a lot of cowboy fans.

You're right.

Oh, man.

Yes, but thanks.

That's all I got.

All right.

Thanks, Carl.

Appreciate it.

This is fun, Anthony.

Thanks for holding.

Go ahead.

Kevin, if anybody ever wants to see how you, how you do not play defensive back in the

NFL, look at Ken Stone.

Yeah, against lonely.

Yep.

Turned to, turned to said completely, turned to said completely drew Pearson ran right

by him.

Yeah.

I mean, when you initially started the segment, you said the one word you said, longly,

bingo.

Yeah.

Ever since then, I can't stand a cowboys is not the same verber as it was back in the

day.

Right.

Going back to the, to the 79 game, when we actually had a team and we should have won

the game, the, the, the giants game that we lost on the last game of the year doesn't

even come close to that 79 game.

Oh, not even close.

Oh, no.

That, that, that team, we're against the Giants was a sorry team to begin with.

And I think we made noise in 79, but yeah, it's, it's the cowboy.

But we would have definitely made noise in 79, 100%.

You know, the cowboys, remember, that was Roger Staubach's, we did not know it at the

time.

That was the last regular season win for him because they lost the following week at

home to the Rams.

And that was it.

He retired.

Remember, he had, he had all those concussions and he and Landry were at odds.

But that, you know, that 79 game was Roger Staubach's last win as a quarterback.

Um, you, you voted up earlier, it's, it's, it's, it's amusing to think what could have

been or what, what should have been because, you know, we got gives, but that 79 team was

good.

But so we don't know, I mean, we still could have got the same similar results or better

out of that team.

Look, Jack, Jack party may not have been a great head coach.

He was a great defensive head coach, a great defensive coordinator.

And Joe Walton was the OC in thizman in those guys thought Walton was excellent from those

years.

I mean, think about it.

They were not a superstar team.

The 79 team wasn't, I mean, Joe had a great year, Rico had a great year.

The old line was okay.

The receivers were like Danny bugs and Ricky Thompson, like they didn't have great receivers.

But man, Clarence Harman, Buddy Hardeman, those guys, they, they really did overachieve.

That's 79 season.

No doubt.

Thanks, Anthony.

I got to take a break.

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We're going to do some brackets next hour, Max and I will, and then we will post those

right on ESPN.com.

Yeah.

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I just put it out on the team 980 Twitter over the break so you can all jump in right

now.

Again, the password is and you got until what Thursday?

Yeah.

You've got to the games tip off on Thursday.

But yeah, password is team 980 capital T EM 980 to join the bracket challenge jump in

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I don't typically do well with my brackets.

It's not my best.

I won one last year.

A little flex.

You did.

Yes, I did.

I didn't get like, you know, I just had the final four right and I think the, yeah, I

think I had Florida win in the championship.

So that was my big grab of points at the end of when the, when, when the trophy.

Right.

Um, I do better on just picking out the games with points, breads and giving you winners

that way, which I will have a smell test pick for night one of the tournament first four

game tonight, uh, and maybe even the first game tonight, uh, bones, bones.

Who's the team for your lifetime that you hated the most and why?

Hey, Kevin, man, thanks for taking my calls at any time, bones, hey, man, you know, what

man's checking out, man, you know, I live in Washington, DC.

I grew up in Wyzen, DC, you know, I was born in 1950, right?

So, you know, I can remember, man, the days of Craig Morton, you know, all of them guys

like that, right?

You know, and, uh, I'm trying to figure out, man, if you're from Wyzen, if you're from

Wyzen, DC, right, you know, uh, how can you not hate anybody but the Dallas Cowboys?

Cause you got all these people that live in the Wyzen, DC area.

I'm talking about in Wyzen, DC, I ain't talking about Merle and the Virginia, I'm talking

about inside the NAZC Cavalry, Wyzen, DC, and they're talking about DC stands for Dallas

Cowboys.

Well, there are, I mean, bones, you know this, there are a lot of Dallas fans that live in DC,

but certainly in the surrounding DMV area.

I'm with you.

I mean, but you and I are, you know, like, uh, my, my kids don't hate Dallas the way

we did.

Max even said Philadelphia is more his rival.

Let me just tell you something.

Clinton, Portis, Chris Cooley, Santana Moss, all the guys from the teams of, of this

century, they're, the game they, they thought of the most was the Philly games.

So it's different.

Um, it's been a long time since Dallas, Washington has meant to the area and to the country

what it did, uh, for about 30 years.

These bones, let's go to our guy, Paulie in the 757.

Give me the team that you've hated the most during your lifetime and why.

Big guy.

You doing that up to the W.

I mean, of course it is the Cowboys, but running up close, close that one B is the

Lakers, man.

And I'm going to use this that.

Wait a minute.

Why is it the Lakers for you?

Were you a Celtics fan?

Are you?

There we go.

No, listen, 42, 15 is seven magic against the six.

Yeah.

Look, imagine you get a six, man, Hey, Dr. J was my first sports hero.

And I remember the first NBA game I ever got to see for the tape delay, game six.

Yeah.

I'm up 12 o'clock or whatever it was in the morning and I finally get to see my hero,

Dr. J and Maddie Johnson in the lake, Maddie Johnson went crazy on him.

That's going to have point on what I said.

I remember when the season started there, I hate the Lakers and I've been hating the

Lakers.

I could never appreciate nothing about the Lakers, just because of that point, man.

But you know magic was my guy, right?

In the 80s when the bullet sucked, I was just such a magic guy and I still am to this

very day.

And that's truly one of the most amazing performances, not because he was a six nine point guard

playing center for cream, but because he was a rookie in game six against Darryl Dawkins

and Dr. J 42, 15 and seven, yeah, I hate the Lakers, bro, like, Oh, I could never appreciate

magic until he was done.

I couldn't appreciate Kobe until he was done.

I couldn't appreciate Shaq turning with the heat, I mean, I despise.

I hate the Lakers, this is much I hate the Cowboys, there's almost like the same words to

me.

Cowboys, Lakers are the same words, man.

And Dr. J was my first sports hero and it goes on hard.

So I hate the Lakers, bro, I think his day, man, to this day, I hate the Lakers.

Well, I love, I loved magic and I can just remember every single one of those playoff

series in the 80s, you know, staying up until late hours and then I watching them, you

know, against Golden State in a first round series or second round series, man, magic.

I was so happy.

I was so happy with Sweetie Floyd getting the business.

Oh, remember that series.

I remember that.

Yeah.

I had 51 in the game.

I think it was 51.

I think it was 51.

Sweetie Floyd was given them the business that one's very fair, but, you know, they didn't

win the series.

But, yeah, I hate the Lakers, 42, 15, it's seven.

As a rookie.

I hate what it means.

That's center.

It was a point card because Kareem was outplayed center.

It's truly one of the greatest performances ever in NBA finals, NBA playoff history.

All right.

Let me get in some other calls, appreciate it as always, Paulie.

Dan and Alexandria, Dan, thanks so much for holding.

Go ahead.

Love you, show, love you, show Kevin, appreciate it.

Hey, I grew up in Iowa City, Iowa in the 1950s and in those days, the big 10 was 10.

And in those days, if you wanted to get to a bowl game in the big 10, you had to win

the conference and go to the Rose Bowl, as I recall, as I recall, there was no other

way you were going to a bowl game.

And so as a result of that, and as a result, I think of the fact that the big 10 made a

rule that nobody could go to the Rose Bowl two years in a row, what happened was that

Ohio State and Michigan alternated every each team went every year.

So you can guess who might two least favorite teams are.

Did you guys go to the Rose Bowl with Chuck Long at quarterback or not?

I, yes.

Aren't you ranked number one that one year with Chuck Long?

Yeah, we did.

As a matter of fact, you're right.

So that would be the exception to the rule.

Okay.

Um, who was the coach?

Why am I blanking on who the coach was?

The guy, you know, goal grizzled to do for it for us to have a chef ski.

No, no, no, the head coach of those Iowa teams, legend.

I mean, you've had Kirk Forens for like 30 years, it seems like now, the guy before

him.

Well, I'm almost sure it was a chef ski.

No, that's not right.

I guess we'd have to look it up.

Hayden Fry, Hayden Fry was the coach, I think, I think I have a chef ski was before

Fry, but well, yeah, but what I'm saying is when you, when Chuck Long took, took Iowa

to the Rose Bowl, Hayden Fry was the coach.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Sorry.

I must have, I must have misunderstood.

Um, thanks, Dan.

Ethan, Ethan, the team that you've hated despised during your lifetime and the reasons

why real quick, it's two of them.

It's because the Dallas is because of the edge they have on us over the last 26 years.

They're like 36 and 16 against us and they've been, that's what it is more times.

Yeah.

I mean, they beat us 30 more times, it's 81, 51 and two for the whole series, but most

of that is the Snyder area destroying, like you mentioned, there's not even a rivalry

anymore.

It's because they've owned us for the last 26 years.

And the second is the Indiana Pacers, especially of the 90s.

I loathe Reggie Miller, how big Nick's fan went up and, and we played them in the 90s

and that game where he scored eight points and six seconds or whatever it was.

I still remember it.

Let you, it was like yesterday.

I hated that guy.

I wanted to punch him in the face, but those are my two.

Yeah.

Thanks for that.

You know, it's interesting.

I always loved Reggie Miller.

Reggie Miller was one of the best moving without the basketball to, you know, get open

to use screens.

I don't think anybody used screens better than Reggie Miller.

And then he was six eight and had the super quick release.

And he was a killer man.

He was a stone called killer.

Mark and Largo finish it up for us.

Let's see if you can be coachable here.

Give me the team during your lifetime that you despise the most and the reason.

Why?

It goes by this, Kevin, and I said just a couple of weeks ago, December 16, 1979, so build

up to that game all week as a, as a kid, we were talking about that all week in school.

And I know they were talking about it in your school all week, December 16, 1979.

It doesn't get any bigger than that being up 34 to 21 and losing that game like I told

you.

That was, that's one of, I mean, that, that was the only time in the world I cried for

the team and the team lost the only time.

And that was it.

The other team.

Me too.

Me too.

I don't think there is no doubt that that game was the most crushing and the most hurtful.

And it was, and it happened so quickly and the end came so suddenly.

And it's like, wait a minute.

We were just about to go to the Super Bowl as the one seed.

And now we're not even in the playoffs.

That was horrible.

Horrible.

Horrible.

Now, now let me, let me tell you what's about 1v and so, and I hate to say it, Kevin, it's

your son.

You got three sons.

You got, you got Kirk.

You got Sean.

And you got Kyle.

Kyle is number, Kyle is vastly coming up there, man.

I hate to say it, man.

He is the reason why I'm here in rumors on Instagram or X and everything.

The reason why Brandon, why do you do this?

Why do you do this?

This is not the topic.

This isn't the topic.

And Kyle's not a team, okay, December 16, 1979.

No doubt.

I mean.

Kevin, that was it.

That was it.

You want to say something, Kevin?

I said it on your day, and my day just passed, but you still owe me, you got to say it.

What?

What happened, Kevin?

I don't know what he's talking about, that's helped me.

Happy birthday, Mark.

Oh, happy birthday, Mark and Largo.

Woo!

On St. Paddy's Day, so I won't, I won't forget it next year.

No, no, no, no, no, no, it was on the fourth.

It was on the fourth.

It was two weeks ago.

It was on March 4th.

What?

It was on March 4th.

What?

And you're lecturing me for not wishing you happy birthday 13 days after your birthday?

No, I had to do that because I was talking about Kyle, but I had to throw that in there.

But no, I'm gonna leave Kyle alone.

But yeah, that, that, that, that, that, Kevin, you know what you should do, man, seriously.

No, I don't know what I should do.

What should I do, Mark?

No, talk about, when it's real or low.

Have your birthday reminder in my phone.

I'm gonna do that.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm coming up to 79 game, the 79 game because

a lot of these Max don't know what dancing about unless you do, but if you bring it up on

the air and talk about it and how it was and how the stats were that year, you're right.

Joe Biden had no receipts as a toe to none, I totally agree with you on that.

No receipts as a toe to and I was back when Don Warren was a past catch and tied in before

he started to learn how to block.

Yeah, that, that is my God.

Mark and Largo annual reminder in my phone, March 4th, birthday, he's a Pisces just like

me.

All right, Mark.

See, I got a roll.

When we come back, there's breaking NFL news.

There's also speaking of Brandon Ayuk, some audio from George Kittle talking about the

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