“I Was Blacklisted for 7 Years” KAITLIN BENNETT Breaks It Down | DSH #1794

I don't know where you're putting this or whatever, but there is no such thing as a trans person

because men cannot be women, so there is no such thing as that.

There are people who identify as trans.

It's like saying, oh, I'm a unicorn. Unicorns don't exist.

There are a thing that we've made up, but they don't exist.

There are men and women that cannot interchange, but we, they are all children of God.

And so they all matter.

It's very sad that people, the children fall into this delusion and confusion

really brought on by adults and what a shame that we even have to talk about it.

Alright guys, here at Amphus Day 2 with Caitlin Bennett, host of the Liberty Hangout.

Yes, thank you for having me. We've been trying to...

Yeah, we've been trying to do this for a while.

I remember watching you years ago.

Thank you.

The first time I saw you was on Logan Paul's podcast.

Yep.

That was like five years ago, right?

At least five.

Yeah, that was a long time.

At least, yeah, he had me come on and then...

It was a bit of a hit piece.

It was, well, they tried.

And I outsmarted them about gun laws and the operations of guns.

And then they got really mad that I disagreed with transgender ideology.

And they removed my podcast.

I'm sure you remember that.

Yep, they took it down.

Yeah, they took it down.

And now time has proven that you're right.

You've been validated.

Yeah, it's funny because then now they like shooting guns.

And they went to Trump's inaugural party.

And it was there.

So very interesting.

Yeah, they interviewed Trump.

Yeah, they interviewed Trump, I think.

Yeah, and I got them to interview Alex Jones.

And like, through me that happened.

Oh, really?

You know, whatever.

So you set up Alex with them after?

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah, I helped coordinate that, yeah.

So you still didn't have any ill will after their hit piece episode on you or whatever?

No, it was great for me because when I responded to them,

and I made my whole video debunking all their stuff and calling them out,

because Logan Paul literally has to have a babysitter.

That did great for me.

I got a lot of views on that.

So I'm still open to it.

Logan, if you see this, bring me back on.

Get it back on.

Maybe there's something different there.

I'd fly out to California for that.

Yeah.

Be interesting to see if their take on gun laws has changed.

Yeah.

Especially with all the campus shootings.

And even transgender ideology.

Because that's what they removed my video for because I was harassing trans people.

So it'd be really interesting to see where they stand today.

Yeah, I feel like five years ago people were scared to talk about transgender issues.

Yeah.

But now it seems more accepted.

It's really, it's very interesting how things have changed.

Especially on college campuses.

Yeah.

I agree.

You used pretty much to see it as like a mental disorder, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I feel like that's not even a hot take anymore.

Well, you know, I feel like most people that subscribe to trans identifying individuals,

because I mean, I don't know where you're putting this or whatever,

but there is no such thing as a trans person because men cannot be women.

So there is no such thing as that.

Right.

There are people who identify as trans.

That's like saying, oh, I'm a unicorn.

Unicorns don't exist.

There are a thing that we've made up, but they don't exist.

There are men and women that cannot interchange, but we, they are all children of God.

And so they all matter.

It's very sad that people, the children fall into this, this delusion and confusion really brought on by adults.

And what a shame that we even have to talk about it.

They're teaching it to kids in elementary school.

What the hell?

Yeah.

So young.

Yeah.

It's terrible.

It's awful.

It's just to pay attention to what their kids are doing.

Because I think they most encounter that online.

I'm in a discord chat right now undercover, but they don't ever know I'm in it.

But undercover because they, someone in the group chat threatened me.

And so I joined their discord chat that was just out in the open.

And there's adults in there with children, minors.

And minors are openly talking about how they, they hate their parents and all this stuff.

And literally seeing in front of me.

And there's minors talking to adults about, you know, the trans stuff and being gay and drawing weird furry.

Wow.

And it's really, really disturbing and discussing, but I see it right there tonight.

Anyway, I'm just in there to monitor.

Wow.

You're doing some undercover work on the side too.

I just saw Ryan Montgomery went on Sean Ryan show to talk about this.

A lot of kids on Roblox and Fortnite are getting, I guess, channeled into these discord or telegram.

Weird chats.

And then some of them are getting abducted into sex work.

Yeah.

It's pretty bad.

Yeah.

Parents have to pay attention.

For my kids, no internet access.

And if they have any internet access, it's right in front of me.

I don't think that parents should be allowing laptops or computers or handheld devices,

even a switch, like an Nintendo switch.

Yeah.

Nothing that has internet access should ever be in their rooms alone.

That's just.

Yeah.

We got it.

We got to put some boundaries up as parents.

What about cell phones for kids?

What age do you think is appropriate?

You know, my oldest is only three and a half.

Oh, God.

I haven't gotten that far.

I've found with parenting, you can have all of these ideas about what you're absolutely going

to do.

But as you're actually in the throws of parenting, you realize, oh, I said I was going to do this.

Well, actually, I'm not doing that.

I'm going to do something different.

So I don't like to say I have all the answers.

I'm a new parent.

I'm a new mom.

So come back in maybe 10 years.

Yeah.

You're a whole some mom trying to go to farmer's markets and get a takeout.

I just want to go to I just want to troll the lives of the farmer's work.

Now I like to have dialogue.

I actually love farmer's markets.

And I genuinely do like them.

They're so creative.

Is this a fun time?

Yes.

The food is actually food.

Food is absolutely.

That's why I go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The produce is actually bug free and fresh.

Right.

We love that.

I know you got kicked out of one.

Was that the one in your neighborhood or were you somewhere else?

Yeah.

So I got kicked out of two of them.

I never film where I live or even in the vicinity of where I live.

Yeah.

So everywhere I film does not even close to my house.

That's quite smart, right?

Very smart.

Yes.

You know, the state of Florida has had a, you know, what we're talking about, revival a lot here.

Yeah.

At Amfest with Charlie, the state of Florida and their police departments have had a revival on the first amendment.

Purely because they tried to kick me out of farmer's markets.

And so now when police are called anywhere in Florida that I go to, most of the time they don't even show up.

Because they'll be like, there's a girl with a microphone harassing us.

We're peacefully protesting.

They don't even show up because they know that I'm alone to be there.

Free speech.

And they don't want to bother me.

So they know what happens when they bother me.

Yeah, free speech, right?

Exactly.

And then you usually have a gun on you too.

So that probably doesn't help.

Maybe.

Good night.

But Florida, I mean, Florida's fine.

Yeah.

Florida just also legalized open carry.

Oh, okay.

So you're fine there.

But if you did that in Cali, yeah, you're screwed.

Yeah, I'm not sure about that.

And I have to probably bring five security guards rather than my usual one or two.

Yeah.

Oh, so they just legalized open carry.

Yeah.

That's exciting.

Yeah.

So what they actually did was they removed the restriction on open carry.

So there really isn't even a law that says you can, but there isn't a law that says you

can't burn this like weird limbo stage where it's legal to they just removed a law.

So what do you think about federally allowing open open carry?

Do you want that?

You know, that is not something I thought about.

I'm kind of far away from my gun girl days or whatever.

A federal thing for open carry.

I would support that.

Okay.

I think more importantly than a federal law to open carry, it should be permitless carry.

So instead of saying, yes, it's a federal law.

Everybody can open carry.

I think what's more important is that everybody can carry without a permit.

Now, that's not saying you don't have to go through background checks.

Right.

But you shouldn't have to get permission from the government to have a firearm to protect yourself.

Mesa.

I would like to remove the government.

Yeah.

That would, that would be great.

And I'm not saying I'm anti background checks.

I have to think about that back before I would go on interviews and I'd be like,

we should all be able to have nuclear weapons.

But now that was before the mental health epidemic.

Yes, that's.

And that was before we've seen such an uprising of left wing political violence.

Yeah.

And transgender ideology was not really a thing.

Right.

And, you know, honestly, I was more of a libertarian than I was a conservative person.

Oh, yeah.

And I really, I love this discussion because I haven't really taken the time to sit down and be like,

where am I at on the gun stuff?

I think I would still say that if the government could have it, you know,

there's a discussion to be said for if we can have it because the purpose of the second amendment

isn't to protect ourselves against trainees who want to shoot us because they don't like what we're talking about.

That is important.

Yeah.

But the point of it is for the government aspect.

And it's important that we can defend ourselves.

Right.

Whatever happened in our lifetimes probably not, but that is the purpose of it.

And then secondly is to defend ourselves.

And as he countries like Australia, where it's basically illegal to defend yourself.

And what a shame.

I couldn't imagine being in that situation.

Yeah.

No ability to defend yourself while people are shooting at you.

Yeah.

No, that's just as an American, it's really, really hard to imagine.

Yeah.

I just, I mourn for not even just Australia from what happened there.

But I also mourn for the fact that their government hates them, their government,

the Australian government hates its Australian citizens.

They don't even want them to protect themselves.

It's their importing people who want to hurt other people.

They're importing a culture that cannot, you know, broadly, they cannot assimilate.

Yeah.

And yet instead of blaming the culture or the religion and what's obvious about what's happening here,

they want to restrict gun ownership even more.

Yeah.

And what a shame.

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Times worse, because when these bad people do these things,

and then the Australian government comes out and says,

oh, it's right wing extremism, and we got to do more restriction on guns.

Well, then the guys who want to do harm are like, great, this is exactly what we want.

Thank you, Prime Minister, thank you, Australian government.

And so it's like, they're complicit in what happened.

There was just, I don't know if you saw a terrorist attack planned for New Year's in Cali,

I believe, four people got arrested.

It's all that.

And I think it was similar group, like an extreme Islam group.

I think what's interesting is that they weren't Muslim, they weren't immigrants at all.

I think that's what, is that what you're talking about?

I think so, yeah.

Oh, it was.

I think if we're talking about the same people, I think they weren't like immigrants.

They were just leftists who are subscribed to all of that ideology,

which is really interesting.

So it's not even like you have to be part of that culture or part of that religion.

And Michael knows me to really good points.

And this is all credit to him.

And it's something that I've been thinking about is the left,

they don't care that the Islamic religion or the culture over there,

the Middle Eastern culture, no, they don't like gay people.

And you can say that, you can shout it to the wind at the leftist.

It doesn't matter.

They have a common enemy.

Yeah.

And that's what Michael knows was saying.

And that has stuck with me ever since I heard him say that on a show the other day.

I was like, you're right.

They have a common enemy and they will band together based on that common enemy.

They don't care anything else.

And what a shame that we can't do the same thing.

Do you see the leftist, like the big enemy that people should be focusing on?

Yes.

Well, we're talking about politics, of course.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I'm not saying leftists are our enemy.

I'm not saying that.

We are all children of God.

Yeah.

There's no one individually that is like, oh, you are my enemy or anything like that.

Yeah.

But politically speaking, of course, they love to stick together.

And they're really good at sticking together.

And I see us were so fractured, right?

Especially these days.

Yeah.

And it's really sad.

It is.

And it's so sad to see because all the things that we're bickering about at the end of the day,

I go out and I talk to people.

And I talk to normal everyday people.

Yes, they're usually leftists.

And I will tell you, the left is not focusing on what this fraction and the right is saying,

what this fraction and the right is saying, they are focused on voting.

They are focused on taking down Donald Trump.

They do not want JDVans to get elected.

Yeah.

They are very confident after their wins, you know, last month, in winning the midterms.

And so while we're over here, bickering about Ben Shapiro.

Israel.

Exactly.

And I'm not saying that any of those topics aren't important.

They are important.

But I don't think that they should be the main focus of what we're talking about.

When I talked to leftists, like I said, they are very focused on winning elections.

And they are very mobilized.

And we've got to pick up our game about being mobilized too.

So there's a lot of blackpilling and the conservative movement right now.

Yeah.

And I really wish we weren't because the other side is not.

And they think they'll win.

Yeah.

And I hope they're not right.

That's why I don't take sides, honestly, on the right.

Like I have on both people far right, center right, whatever, moderate right.

Yeah.

I think it's important to stay united.

It is.

And you know, we don't have to agree on the little itty bitty things.

We have to have a common enemy.

Yeah.

And I don't say that as like a vulgar way to feel about people.

But if we were to have a common enemy again, it could unite and put people into office.

And when in the midterms and get JD van selected, which is what I hope all of us want.

So yeah, I hope that's why Trump won because everyone was on the same page.

You know, Kamala was the enemy of the enemy at the time.

And now it just feels so scattered.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

I've even done some like internal thinking and looking in the mirror.

And I'm like, where do I fit in?

Where do I fit in?

Because my main thing is that I'm a mother.

And I'm a wife and I'm a Catholic.

And I see all these like these issues coming up.

And yeah, they're important.

And I agree with certain people.

And but I feel like for my audience, I got to stay just what I do.

And they don't follow me to talk about all the different people fighting with each other.

They don't follow me to talk about this.

They follow me to go to the protest, go have dialogue with people, find out what the left is thinking about.

And so I'm like, I'm going to do what my audience watches me for.

Yeah.

If I start going off on the other, these are going to be like, why don't you trolling the lips?

Did it?

Yeah, you stay in your lane.

You go to these events.

Are you going to go to Dearborn, Michigan?

No, you know, I really don't leave my kids.

Probably wouldn't be safe, too.

I don't think I would.

I guess I'd be expensive security to go out there.

Yeah, you need to pay at least two guards.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

You would not be welcome there.

I would not be welcome.

How many times have you been trespassed this year?

Only one.

Oh, no.

So they said they trespassed me in Lakeland.

Okay.

But then they technically didn't because they fumbled the paperwork for that.

They said I was trespassed, but their police supportment couldn't even get the trespass written.

I don't know.

Some things going on there, but the winter guard in police department did trespass me.

I got to frame that in my studio.

You got to sell merch.

I know.

I do.

Maybe I should put my trespass warning on a shirt and then sell it.

That's a great merch idea.

But yeah, so, but my lawyer didn't even have to get involved because so many people spoke out.

They were so pissed off about it.

Yeah.

So they rescinded it.

And every time I go back, everybody knows that I'm allowed to be.

That's awesome.

The power of social media, right?

That's the thing.

I was like, thank you guys because of you.

I didn't even have to get my lawyer involved and they did all this for me.

They spoke up for me.

It's nice to have people on your side.

That's awesome.

I got arrested for trespassing in high school.

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah.

So we share that bond.

Yeah.

See, I would have loved.

Okay.

I have to be careful what I said.

I would have been interested in an arrest because that could have actually had fruit in terms of a lawsuit and stuff.

A lot of people were like, why didn't you sue them?

Oh, you know, like, I'm not going to follow you anymore if you don't follow through with stuff.

Well, I have a lawyer.

We looked at everything and without an arrest and without anything that shows huge damages and stuff.

It really went a hold up in court.

Got it.

And because I'm first a mother, I've always just left.

I need to go home to my babies.

Yeah.

If that weren't the case, I would have been like, I'm not leaving.

You got to arrest me and then you got to arrest me.

I already.

Maybe one day.

I probably should have filed something when I got arrested.

Yeah.

You probably should have.

Yeah.

He was like, yo, we got Yao Ming.

I was in a backyard.

What the?

Yeah.

He literally said that.

Oh, that's super rude.

Yeah.

Super racist.

Yeah.

He got Yao Ming.

And then on the car ride on the way to station, he's like high-fiving.

The guy in the front seat.

Like, this is my first arrest ever.

I'm so happy.

Oh, so he like really just wanted to arrest?

Yeah.

It was like so weird.

I was a kid at the time.

So I didn't really know like my rights.

Yeah.

How old were you?

I was 18.

18.

Yeah.

Literally just turned 18.

Yeah.

You were just at a high school?

I was cutting through a backyard.

Oh.

And he straight up.

Yeah.

Okay.

See, that's interesting because for a trespass to work on, but I don't know about school property.

It wasn't a school.

It was like a house.

Oh, did the, did the, did the property owner trespass you?

No.

He wasn't even there.

So that's interesting.

Yeah.

It was weird.

It says private property.

He would have to be the one that trespasses you.

No.

That's weird about it.

Yeah.

That's weird.

Yeah.

They can't, I would imagine they can't just trespass you from private property.

Well, that's what they would have to be the owner that does that.

No.

Owner was literally not even there.

He probably didn't even know.

He just wanted to arrest someone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You wanted, you, you wanted you to be his first.

Yeah.

I should have hit you up.

I could have used your guidance on that one.

Yeah.

I'm not trying to get arrested anymore though.

I just got married one of the kids.

I'm like you.

I'm trying to be, yeah.

Thank you.

That's right.

I saw your beautiful photos.

Yeah.

Now that I want to start a family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's something you've got to do.

It's going to be the most beautiful thing you've ever done.

I can't wait.

It really will be.

Yeah.

I know that was a big change for you.

It was.

It was a huge change.

And it's something that I wish I could share more about, but for their protection.

Yeah.

For sure.

They are the, I'm going to start crying.

They are.

I'm not going to cry.

They're just the most beautiful children.

Yeah.

I've ever seen.

And I wish I could show everybody their beauty.

And everything, but for their protection, we don't.

Family members aren't allowed to post photos, which is a whole other thing that I think

people should probably stop doing.

You've actually already discussed this.

My wife and I, we're not going to have any social media for our kids.

I'm not going to post their faces even when their babies.

Yeah.

Because unfortunately the day and age we're in, people are fucking weird.

Yeah, they're weird.

And it's not even so much of like, oh, predators could like take these photos.

That's true.

But also, I don't want people, I just don't want people wishing harm on them.

Right.

And I want to respect their privacy.

They're people at the end of the day.

And I see all these mom accounts that are like, oh, this toy is great.

Watch my kid play with it.

And it's like, you're using your child for content.

Yeah.

And there's something about that.

What if they grow up and they want to live a really private life?

And what if they grow up and they look back at that and they're like,

you were using me for content.

I hope that that's not what happens.

But I do cringe a little bit when I see that.

Evil eyes are real thing too.

Like you said, people will wish bad on your kids and they don't deserve that.

Yeah, they don't deserve that.

Like I can handle it.

I know I'm putting out content.

I'm going to get haters.

But we're grown at people.

Yeah.

We deal with hate all the time.

It doesn't faze me at this point.

No, and people are like, you're so brave.

You get so much hate.

And I'm like, honestly, it's fine.

I'm so numb to it now.

It's like, yeah, I got another death threat.

And my inbox is like, what's new?

If I didn't get one, I'd be concerned.

Yeah, I'm not doing enough.

I'm not getting a death threat a day right now.

Yeah.

Yeah, I get hate with so much.

I'm so numb to it.

Even you?

Yes.

Just for having certain people.

Just for platforming.

Like even from this episode, I'll get a death threat or comment.

Who knows?

People are wild.

Like I just had on Kyle Rittenhouse.

He said he gets non-stop threats.

Oh, yeah.

It's been five years.

Yeah, which is really stupid to threaten him.

Yeah.

People for real, right?

But the media just portrayed him as such a villain.

Oh, yeah.

And same with you at first.

Yes.

You know what's interesting?

When I used to go on college campuses, I would get mobbed by hundreds of students.

And I would not announce where I was going.

I would just show up.

Yeah.

And I was, I will do like trivia and pop quiz videos and stuff like that.

And I would go, I get mobbed.

And I'm like, what is going on on college campuses?

My husband would watch.

He's the one who like kind of does my social media.

So I can focus on being a mom.

But even back then, he helped me do my social media.

He's my editor, my producer.

He would watch in real time.

He would search my name back then Twitter.

Yeah.

And he would watch a nobody account with like 20 followers.

Post something nasty about me.

And he would just watch it in real time.

100 likes, 500 likes, 1500 likes.

And he would just be like, Twitter is absolutely doing something to promote this hate against you.

Because everywhere I went, I got treated the exact same.

Everything I posted.

I got the same stuff.

Like, girl, that me.

And it was very weird how programmed it was today.

That's not the case.

I have gained so many subscribers and followers.

I was so grateful to all of them.

I go to campuses.

I have fans now.

I never used to happen.

People don't really even really know who I am.

And that's great.

I don't want to be mobbed anymore.

It was fun back in the old days.

It was fun at first.

It was fun at first.

And a very, very empowering.

I love confrontation.

But it was really weird how all that stuff was like promoted against me.

And I'm not saying I'm a huge important person.

Yeah.

To need to be promoted or anything.

But it was definitely happening.

And people hated my guts.

I don't.

But I took a break to become a mom.

Yeah.

When I was three year break.

And now that I'm back.

Three years.

Three year break to have children.

And I really...

I'm not trying to shoot my own horn.

I'm not trying to be prideful.

But as conservatives, we talk about family first.

Yeah.

It's God, family, then country.

Charlie even said that same thing.

Right.

And we have to live the way that we promote.

If we're not living the way that we claim to have an ideology of.

Then we're fakes.

Yeah.

So I literally took a break for three years to be a mom.

And to figure out how to do things.

This is the first time I've been at a conference in like seven years.

Wow.

Well, that's also because I was blacklisted from Turning Point.

Oh, where?

But really?

That's an interesting story.

That is interesting.

Because you think someone like Charlie would actually support you.

He used to.

He did.

I used to work for Turning Point like seven years ago when I was in college.

Okay.

And I was really good at what I did with Turning Point.

I was the top activist in the nation.

I was the president of my club.

And I was a campus coordinator.

I'm not even sure if they still have those positions.

I think they have campus coordinates.

Yes.

Yes.

And so I had an event on campus that got a lot of pushback.

Yeah.

I had a lot of fun doing it.

But they got a lot of pushback.

And I met Charlie the next day.

And he was like, oh, I love that event.

It was super funny while the donors didn't love it.

And the people around him didn't love it.

And so Turning Point as an organization put out a statement disavowing me.

Yeah.

It was a really funny event.

And I just felt so heartbroken.

And I festered on it.

And I tried so hard to make up for what I had done.

I was wrong with the event though.

So it's really funny as a 30 year old woman now versus like a 22 year old.

I probably wouldn't have done it.

We held an anti safe space event where I put up a baby gate.

Got like binkies all around right out in the middle of campus.

And a student from another organization came and wore an adult diaper to act like a baby.

What?

I know your face right now, right?

Right?

That seems weird.

It was so funny.

But that's how I've always been.

Really like out there.

Like out there.

I've always despised the people who just have clipboards.

And they're like, you used to put it free speech.

I've always been one that like grabbing attention and like getting you to come over.

Maybe it was too far.

I mean, little old Caitlin should have known better, but I did it.

And that was peak cancel culture around that time period too.

It absolutely was.

And so Charlie got bombarded with diaper memes.

Ah, poor dark hood.

They sent diapers to his headquarters.

Ah.

And instead of just, you know, I worked really hard to try and fix my relationship with them.

But it just wasn't ever the same.

Yeah.

And once I had enough a feeling betrayed, I went scorched earth.

And I wrote a scathing resignation letter.

And I ridiculed Charlie and I made fun of him.

Wow.

And I said awful things and I posted it.

And that went viral.

And ever since then, I've been blacklisted from Turning Point for seven years.

Wow.

Six or seven years.

And never once did I ever have anything kind to say about Charlie or Turning Point.

If they got made fun of or went viral for the wrong reasons, they'd be like,

you know, even years later.

But at the Student Action Summit, you were there in Tampa.

That's like an hour away from me, whatever way it is.

And I showed up to do interviews with the protesters outside.

And I really wanted to go inside and talk to my friend Savannah Hernandez.

And she was like, why don't you come in and I was like, I'm not allowed to be here.

You don't understand.

Like, I don't even want to get kicked out.

How embarrassing would that be?

Well, she called Andrew.

And he was with Charlie, I guess, whatever.

And Charlie literally said, let her in.

I want her here.

Wow.

And I was like, are you sure?

I was like, what is this?

This is crazy.

And so I, they gave me a badge.

No way.

Completely free.

And they let me in there.

And I was even allowed to be there the next following days.

But I didn't go back.

And in retrospect, I wish I had.

I wish I had tried harder to talk to him and just say sorry.

Wow.

Try not to cry again.

No, that's such a deep story.

Thank you.

Yeah.

And so, I mean, that was only a few months before he died.

I know.

That was the last time I saw him.

Yeah.

And he was so busy I didn't have time to interview him there.

I was like, I'm going to do it out here.

Yeah.

And you just, you know, it's crazy.

Yeah.

What a reminder, though, that things just might not work that way.

And what a reminder to take those leaps and those chances and reach out to people you care about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, Charlie literally told Andrew and his staff, like let her in to sass.

Wow.

And I told myself, like, I'm going to reach out to him and say sorry.

I never even apologized for any of it.

And I don't blame him for blacklisting me.

I understand why you did it.

But I really wish that I could have said something.

Thanks for being so open about that.

Yeah.

It shows me the importance of forgiveness, right?

Exactly.

And when people, I was like, why are you going your way away from the kids?

I'm like, as a Catholic, a really important part of our faith is reconciliation.

Right.

And that's exactly what Charlie gave me was reconciliation.

I didn't even have to talk to him.

Letting me into sass after everything that had happened was him reconciling me.

After so many years of bitterness and grudges and what a waste of time.

Yeah.

That was I.

But also thankful to God for that bad blood because I became me.

Right.

And a lot of people here today will say, I am Charlie Kirk.

I like to say I'm Caitlin Bennett because of Charlie Kirk.

I love that.

And so I'm me.

Charlie with no one will ever be Charlie Kirk.

But I am my, I am who I am because of him.

Without him, I wouldn't have my family.

I wouldn't have met my husband.

And so I literally owe nearly everything I have to him.

And he's touched so many people, even me like he inspired me to start moderating debates.

I think debates are so important.

Um, he inspired me to get into content.

He impressed me with his knowledge and his recall.

He was just one of a kind.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's no doubt about it.

Very important.

And he loved the memes about himself.

And so that was cool.

Uh, they were funny.

They still are funny.

And I'm glad that he thought they were funny too.

So I feel like I'm home here.

Yeah, he'll live off to ever.

I mean, this.

Yeah.

I'm so happy this event is just as big as it is this year.

Yeah, Erica Kirk is.

Yeah.

She's, she's impressive.

Yeah.

Have you gotten touched to talk to her at all or?

No.

I don't know.

I don't expect to be able to do that.

Yeah.

She's so busy.

And, you know, whatever.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Shout out to Erica.

Very impressive woman.

Um, what type of content?

You're probably going to take the rest of the year off.

I'd imagine.

But next year, any, uh, any plans for content ideas or anything?

The same.

Just continue being me.

Um, actually, yes.

I'm knowing to be starting a show.

Oh, yeah.

I'm full.

Nice.

Yeah.

Once we get our studio set up or here is just me, my husband.

All right.

We don't have family around.

So everything we do.

We kind of do it on the kids schedule.

So it's taking a little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So everything we do, we kind of do it on the kids schedule.

So it's taking a little bit to get it done.

But yeah, I'm excited.

I think you'll have a lot of impact with your show.

Thank you.

Yeah.

I see your YouTube.

It crushes it.

Thank you.

It'd be good to see you in that sort of setting where you can actually.

Yeah.

It's interesting.

I don't get to do this alive.

Right.

I go out when I debate.

Well, and I, it's really not even debating.

It's dialogue.

Yeah.

It left us.

And it kind of always turns into a debate because they're wrong.

Right.

About nearly everything.

Yeah.

And naturally, that's why I have to correct them.

If I did not correct them, I'd free a charge too.

I don't even invoice these people for the free education.

But, you know, I don't get ever get to sit down and like explain my views or.

No one really knows anything about me.

Yeah.

Because I never tell anybody.

Yeah.

You're a bit of a mystery.

By a little bit of a mystery.

So hopefully people will start to unravel that.

And I can be more of who I am and tell people more of who Kate went in.

Yeah.

Well, thanks for your time.

It was great to see the side of you.

Because I think it's easy to think of you in a certain way.

But it was awesome getting to know you today.

Yeah.

So we'll link your YouTube below.

Thanks for your time.

Yeah.

Thank you so much.

Sorry if I talk too much.

No, you were.

I ruined your outro.

No, you need to redo that.

No, no, no.

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