Idaho lawmaker leads fight against geoengineering

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Radio Network Liberty and Justice for All.

This is Dr. Clayton J. Baker, MD.

And today I'm very pleased to have a special guest, an exclusive interview with State Representative

in the great state of Idaho District 24 Clint Hostetler.

And Mr. Hostetler is, as I said, a state rep in Idaho who is one of the premier anti-geo

engineering activists and legislators in the state of Idaho.

There is a very strong movement to stop geoengineering in the state of Idaho.

And he has a memorial, which he's going to explain to us exactly what that is.

It's a legislative effort to encourage an end to geoengineering.

There is a very interesting sidelight on this in that Idaho being a agricultural state

and being a state west of the Mississippi has a long history of old-fashioned cloud seeding

activity, which is technically a form of geoengineering.

But it represents this.

We're going to find out a very small percentage of the problem in terms of what we're looking

for.

It doesn't represent those lines in the sky from horizon to horizon that we all are seeing.

It doesn't represent the stratospheric aerosol injection or the solar radiation management

that's destroying our environment.

And yet it is a sort of a stumbling block in many ways for trying to stop those much larger

scale, much more nefarious activities.

And we're going to talk about that a little bit and get some clarity on that issue from

state representative Clint Hausteller.

So Clint, with that introduction, I'd like you to tell me if you could a little bit about

yourself, a little bit about your efforts and the efforts of the other folks in the great

state of Idaho beautiful place, what you guys are doing to try to stop geoengineering and

what this memorial is.

Yeah, thank you so much again for having me on it.

It's a privilege and an honor, Dr. Baker.

And I thank you.

And really everyone who's been involved in this movement is what I think we're seeing

as eyes beginning to open, right, and possibly another conspiracy theory fall by the wayside

as truth and hopefully sooner than later.

But yeah, that has been something on my heart for the last probably good two to three years.

And really, I was a skeptic a long time ago as everyone else was.

I remember about 15, almost 20 years ago, being in Tahoe getting ready to ski with a good

buddy and the guy comes walking up next to us and, hey, how you doing?

You know, hey, not too bad.

All they're spraying us today like roaches.

You know, and I look up and he's pointing those things out and I look at my buddy and I

kind of roll my eyes and whack job and let's move on.

Let's walk a little faster.

And it was one of the first times I'd ever heard of that, you know, and so ever since then,

you know, it's just once you hear about it, you look up and you can't help but look up.

And when we arrived from Northern California about five years ago here in Southern Idaho

in Twin Falls, every single day was crisp and blue.

It didn't matter which time of the season it was, even in winter, it could be, you know,

19 degrees, but you look up and it's a clear blue sky.

And about two and a half years ago that started to change quite a bit more.

And specifically the last year, it dramatically changed this whole last year.

It's obvious.

You look up, right?

You see the pattern.

It starts in the morning.

It follows the sun.

The, you know, sky on one side starts to turn white, hazy silver.

And of course, it always falls the sun.

And then by midday afternoon, it's completely dull, brown, gray, hazy, right?

And by the evening, the other side of the sky is completely dull, brown, gray, hazy.

And then we're, you know, the sun rose, it's starting to become blue again.

So this is rapidly increased here in the last year in Idaho.

And when I took office about basically two years ago, it was on my mind, but not as much

as this year.

So one of the first things I thought is this needs to be brought out.

And thankfully with some soldiers like yourself and friends and so many others across the

United States, I started working and trying to craft some legislation that would work.

And really there's been a soldier here in my neck of the woods.

Her name is Sarah Allstad, who's had her finger on the pulse of research and government

documents and, you know, all these studies done by universities.

And so she and I got together and really started crafting some things.

And what you talked about initially was this conflation and confusion when it comes to

whether modification and geo and geo engineering, if you will, IE the SRM, SAI and how now people

are starting to conflate cloud seating and solar geoengineering.

Now not being said, thank you for letting me digress a little bit and give you the context.

Getting this done here, as you mentioned has been very challenging one because cloud

seating is considered a state treasure here.

While there are some dispersions when it comes to cloud seating and questions of the data,

we can look back to Operation Popeye in the 50s at the validity of some of these practices

when it comes to cloud seating and weather warfare as they say.

Now that being said, we then had to start to parse these two things apart.

You have the cloud seating, which operates, you know, by ground base means and by air,

you know, smaller aircraft that propel these flares into the air.

Now they talk about silver iodide as the main ingredient, but there's acetone, there's

propane, there's some other aspects in the flare.

Now when we're talking about SAI or solar radiation modification stratospheric aerosol injection,

as you and I both know, it's what you refer to.

It's those long lines in the sky.

And you know, there is documentation that goes so far back and so deep into the UN and

United States and all these research projects that it's a lot more deferious dealing with

agencies, hidden agencies, unaccountable agencies.

And so we are really trying to one, bridge the gap between what is weather modification

on a localized level i.e. cloud seating and then the greater threat that I believe, which

is the solar radiation modification that, you know, the academics, the scientists have

been talking about for decades, that is now in practice, right?

And we have nations that have come out against it that have outlawed it.

We've got the UK that pretty much just recently came out and admitted to it.

And we've got 38 or about three fourths of the our states here in the United States that

proposed and passed legislation in an attempt to shoot this down why because it's happening

in federal air space with federal agencies that are unaccountable.

And we really don't have the ability to affect it.

And I'll land this plane, no pun intended here and let you jump back in and say you can

look at the other states of the past legislation, Tennessee, Florida, Louisiana.

And you still see the same thing going on.

So we are really up against it here in Idaho one to tell the people that have invested

their fortunes and farms and livelihood into cloud seating and the really emperor has

no clothes mentality in regard to that.

And then separating that from the greater threat, which is the SRN.

Very good.

I think that's really a good distinction, a really important distinction for us to make for

a couple of reasons.

Number one, because just from a pragmatic standpoint, in terms of legislation or in terms of

acceptance amongst people who have, as you said, state to certain extent their livelihood

or feel that their livelihood is dependent upon old fashioned cloud seating.

And people who, and I think a lot of the bad actors, and this is something that I'd like

to get out to people who say, live west of Mississippi and are very supportive of what

I call old fashioned cloud seating, that you're going to, you might want to be the first

ones to separate the two in the public mind, because this is going, this is blowing up,

I think.

I don't know what you think, Clint, but this is blowing up.

I mean, I think this was something where before COVID and more significantly probably, as

you say, within the last two to three years, this is something where most of us would

have rolled our eyes and said, well, maybe there's something going on up there, but I'm

not, I don't think it's that significant.

And it's now so ubiquitous, and it's so severe, and it's clearly causing all kinds of

damage to the environment and to human health, that it's undeniable that this black budgetary

type of stuff that's going on an absolutely massive worldwide scale is, there's going

to be a confrontation at some level.

It just is going to happen in terms of the public demanding answers and demanding change.

And if people who want to do the relatively small scale cloud seating refused to kind

of stick their heads in the sand about the whole matter, it's likely to be conflated

with it in a way that's going to be very difficult for them.

So I think it actually, if the traditional cloud seating industry is interested in not

being caught up in that issue, in that controversy that's growing, it would move them to say,

hey, wait a minute, we're doing what say Peter Kirby in his book, Chemtrails Exposed

says, is first generation weather modification, it's it's seating clouds to make it rain

or to suppress hail or to get some snowpack on a ski hill, and that's very different

from worldwide UN and NATO based and black budget based and CIA based massive, basically

climate manipulation on a global scale.

And I don't think you really want to be included in that in that in that in that operation.

So I don't know your thoughts are in that, but maybe that's something to suggest to

some of the folks out there that said, hey, don't step on our cloud seating, well, wait

a minute, you're going to get, you're going to get, and I think the bad actors are happy

to have them conflated with it because it confuses people and they get somebody being sort

of the first line of obstruction to change.

So I think it's a danger to that industry as well as just something that makes good legislation

against this black budget type of stuff we're seeing all the time now, making that harder.

I wouldn't want to be associated with it.

What are your thoughts on that?

Well, you're 100% correct.

I mean, really, in many ways, it's a straw man for them, right?

When you have that conflation, you know, like, for example, you know, on X or, you know,

anywhere these days online, you'll see the, you know, what they're calling now climate

trails or geoengineering trails and you'll see posts about, oh, they're cloud seating

over me again.

Well, no, that's not the truth, right?

So if people are believing those trails to be cloud seating and cloud seating being beneficial,

right?

Then right off the bat, it's obfuscating from the reality, right?

Client cloud seating happens for some specific months.

It happens in a few small specific areas here in Idaho.

And it happens with already true formed clouds.

So it's not on a sunny bright day with a clear sky when you see those lines, those aren't

cloud seating.

And when I started bringing this legislation and trying to work across the aisles and

with everybody infested here, there are some major power players here that can dictate

what gets through, what doesn't get through, what bills get heard.

And they have a big grip on the chairman and the leadership here, unfortunately, and that's

the scary thing.

But in speaking with a lot of them, they just almost like kind of laughed and ridiculed,

right?

Like, what are you talking about?

Get the tinfoil out out.

And you know, when you start giving information, then they have to start looking up.

And it's just like the people, when you start looking up, you start using a little critical

thinking and saying, well, why does one plane on the same day, you know, that little condensation

trail follow just very closely and dissipate?

The same day with the same atmospheric, you know, conditions leave the long one that

fans out.

Why does it follow the sun?

So I spoke with a lot of the people invested in the cloud seating industry and here and

I said, hey, look, I have questions about cloud seating.

I have questions about the validity to it, right?

The chemicals you're using, the transparency, why do you need immunity?

The GAO report done by the federal, you know, government accountability office, which is

nonpartisan federally commission shoots, it holds in the data that our cloud seekers

are providing.

I have questions.

We need transparency.

We need informed consent.

But at the same time, to me, that is 1% of the problem.

The bigger problem is over here.

And that's what I'm going for.

And then they'd kind of scratch their head and roll their eyes and I'd say, and honestly,

if you believe that cloud seating is helping and good for agriculture, I think it's

time you start looking at the bigger issue because if you're worried about our soil, our

water, our lungs, our air, you need to look at the bigger issue and the sooner you will

recognize and separate yourself from those, that issue, then 1, you're going to have a

little bit more legitimacy in working with people.

And 2, people aren't going to think that you're the guys up there shooting those long lines

blocking the sun that are killing them with aluminum and titanium and barium or at least,

you know, baraging our soils and our bees and our trees and everything else with that.

And so that has been a information campaign to use that slogan.

I'm calling it that all of us are in right now.

You yourself as well and all the people involved in this, the great soldiers.

It's an information war right now, just like, you know, the Epstein list was originally

a conspiracy in the Russia gate and, you know, the Hunter laptop.

And I mean, we could go on and on and on, right?

Gain of feng function, these things were all these conspiracies and we find out if you

just look, use some critical thinking and objectivity, you'll realize that this is a really

issue.

And so that has been a big, a big obstacle.

And that still continues to this day as I'm trying to work my memorial through.

And just really quickly to back up here, this memorial is just as they say around here,

a hanky in the wind, it's not a law.

It doesn't have teeth.

I'm simply asking and saying, this is a statement from Idaho.

Do you want to be on board with all the other states that believe and know something's

going on?

Whether you believe it or not, we want to tell the federal government, we do not consent

and that you need to stop what is happening or what could be happening or what has the

potential to happen.

And then I list all the data, essentially, whereas this, whereas that, we've got billions

of dollars funneled in.

We've got nations admitting to it.

We have other states that have passed legislation.

In a one document online, even lays out from 2020 to 2180 years, the plan of strategic

aerosol injection with the planes, the chemicals, the money, I mean, the documents are there,

the evidence is there and whether you believe it might be happening or is happening or probably

not happening or not happening at all, it's better we get out in front and one, you know,

divide the issue of cloud seating and the other greater threat to our whole existence,

which is solar radiation modification.

Amen to that.

I think that's really an important approach and I think that the more states that we have

in any form or another that are taking action against this, whether it is your memorial

or whether it's a law in Florida or whatever the case may be, we know that no single action

is going to put an end to this, but we do know that when you get a preponderance of people

and a preponderance of entities that have authority pointing this out, it forces action.

And I think that that's what really needs to take place.

So in your memorial, what are some of the key points that you make?

Can you walk us through that a little bit?

We've already established that you're working to separate the 1% or the very small percent

issue of the old fashioned, again, what I call first generation, whether modification,

the cloud seating, with this massive worldwide solar radiation management, this spring

that we're seeing every single day all day, what does your memorial say that what are the

key points or whatever that you'd like to make sure that they get out there?

Sure. So essentially, like I said, the memorial, it's the beginning for me of the information

war. You stated it perfectly. When people wake up and everybody starts talking about it

and then people realize, oh, I'm not a crazy conspiracy theorist, you know, it's not

about Kim Drails, it's about geoengineering and they've been talking about this for decades,

right? It's about getting the information.

It's about laying the groundwork to move forward. And I believe this is what happened in

the UK, right? People woke up to it. They realized, hey, the weather hasn't been like this.

Yeah, we're, you know, cloudy and rainy, but we've had a weird doll haze for 30 days and

no sun. People were waking up to that. And at that point, the UK government came out and

said, yeah, we're doing it. And we're going to continue to, and there's nothing you could

do, right? Now, we pray, we hope and pray that won't be the case here in the United States.

The fact is, as you said, there is a awakening about that. And for here in Idaho, we've

seemed to be a little bit behind on some of these things that I've noticed. And it's a little

frustrating. So to me, this memorial is a step forward to say, yes, you people out there that have

recognized it is, you are legitimate in your concerns, right? You are justified, I should say.

So this memorial starts out, it basically says, whereas, you know, it is documented that federal

agencies and military contractors and non-governmental organizations and private entities are essentially

acting on behalf or at the request of the federal government and are engaging in solar geoengineering

experiments, you know, including but not limited to solar radiation modification or a

stratospheric aerosol injection, all without public knowledge, you can send. That's the crux of

it right there. So we're admitting that this is happening or could be happening. The real

impetus is that it is documented. These things are documented. And so once again, that whole narrative

of chemtrails, I believe, was a good, you know, quote unquote, sia to set up online because you can

say, oh, it's a conspiracy theory. It's been deep bunked and everybody goes after the chemtrail.

What they don't look at is that the thousands and thousands of pages and history of research

and documentation on SRM and SAI. So then it goes into essentially said, we are here to address

solely and only solar geoengineering, not weather modification generally. Now I had to put that in

there. Unfortunately, this is the fun part of politics, right? You've got to work back and forth

with the quote unquote, invested people and the invested stakeholders. And so I had to separate

weather modification. Why? Because cloud seating is weather modification. Now they overlap. But at

the end of the day, if I'm going to go after the 99%, I had to carve out that 1% to even get this

memorial heard on the house side. That's how much power and control these lobbyists and these

organizations and these entities have. And that is just politics in general, right? And it's a

little discouraging, but the more we get good people with integrity and principle and standards

we can elect in that won't cave to power or to money or influence, then we can get these things

done. The ones that put their constituents first. So I put not weather modification. And then I move

into a definitions aspect that's pulled straight from the EPA site. And it talks about the difference

when weather modification being local short-term effects where geoengineering is larger regional

global effects that persist. Once again, they're controlling global weather patterns and it's

solar radiation modification, SAI. And then it moves into essentially the health impacts, reported

impacts on human health livestock crops, ecosystem, and without a look knowledge. So then it goes

into the fact that says, hey, Idaho, we have not okayed this. And we have not given you legitimacy

to be in our Idaho airspace. And under the 10th Amendment, right, which is one of the most important

aspects now left in the United States is federalism or the 10th Amendment for states to stand up

and push out Congress or push out the federal government, I should say, when they're doing things

without one, the constitutional authority to do it, but without approval of the states let alone

informed consent of the people. So it talks about that and our sovereignty that we have a duty,

right, Idaho, DEQ, Idaho people, Idaho House of Representatives and Senators and leadership have

a duty to protect the sovereignty of our people and our moreover our state.

Amen. I need to cut to break for one second and then we're going to follow that right up and

pick up right where we left off. So bear with me for one second, Quinn. Sorry to interrupt.

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program on the America out loud radio network, liberty and justice for all. We're back with

Idaho State Representative Clint Haustetler. He was taking us through his memorial,

standing up against geoengineering in the great state of Idaho, and when we, when I cut him off,

quite frankly, somewhat rudely, but for the commercial break, he was talking about the importance

of the 10th Amendment, and then he was continuing through the body of this memorial, which I hope,

if you can, you can share with me the text of that, and I'll put it in the article that accompanies

this, if you're willing, and you can just send that to me through the email, and I will put that in

as part of the text that goes along with this podcast. Anyway, Mr. Haustetler, I want you to just

continue. You were digressing a little bit about the importance of the 10th Amendment, but you were

continuing along with the content of your memorial. Yes, sir, and no worries on the interruption.

I'm actually used to that now here, but it usually comes with an objection or a point of order,

so not a problem. So yeah, absolutely, getting back into the whereas, the 10th Amendment's the

most crucial aspect, and we're doing that here. We are implementing our authority here as a state,

and of course, then we move into the fact that multiple states, including Tennessee, Florida,

et cetera, et cetera, have passed legislation prohibiting solar geoengineering, and then of course,

it winds down with now, therefore, be it resolved. That us members of the 68 Idaho legislature,

House of Representatives, and Senate basically urge the United States Congress to pass legislation

to prohibit the intentional injection dispersion or release of chemicals biological or radiological

substances into the atmosphere for the purpose of solar geoengineering without the express

approval of the state of Idaho. Also, to ban the use of unmarked aircraft, drones, balloons,

or space-based platforms to conduct solar geoengineering modifications over our state,

and then, of course, to make such unauthorized acts of felony offense with substantial fines,

criminal penalties for violation, and then, of course, encouraging partnerships between relevant

federal law enforcement agencies, the Idaho Department of Environmental Quality, and state law

enforcement entities, to enforce felonies and reject any federal international or foreign

sponsored solar geoengineering programs conducted over our state without full disclosure and state

consent and public transparency. So that's essentially it. We want to defend our Idaho natural,

blue, clear, clean skies, at least what we have left, right? Down here, we are being bombarded

daily, especially, and what really is concerning me is how much it's happening over the agricultural.

So that's the memorial, and as I said, once again, it is a progression that's laying the first step

in the information war and declaring, at least the idea was that we could come together and declare

that we do not want this in Idaho, United States federal government do your job knock it off,

and we can just hope for the best as I try and keep pushing it through.

Very well. So what can we, as, you know, I'm not in Idaho, what can listeners do,

what can listeners who may be in Idaho do to help you with this effort,

specifically within the state of Idaho, and perhaps more generally elsewhere?

Well, once again, it's an information war. It's about not being scared to stand up and speak out.

You know, we saw that during COVID, right? We saw people saying, no, not going to wear that mask,

not going to take the jab. I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to, you know, stand up and

speak out against the state-sponsored narrative. For us, it's the same thing with this.

It is people speaking up and speaking out. Don't be scared. There's enough information.

If people call you a crap pot or a conspiracy theorist, so be it, right? The end of the day,

there is so much information. You are, you are basically speaking from a position of authority and

power with these things as you delve in. It's overwhelming, but the information is there,

and reach out to gentlemen like yourself and others across the state and nation who are working

and have plenty of information. That's step one. Get informed, speak up and speak out,

and then, of course, speak to your friends and neighbors, but then reach out to our legislators

here, send emails, make calls. Right now, we are stalled on the Senate side with our resources

chairman, and he is a, you know, old school idol, farmer guy who believes cloud seating is going

to save the day. Ironically, we are ramping it up, and ironically, once again, we are not seeing

the water and snow that we usually do. Well, why? Because there's been solar geoengineering that

has created a heat bubble here, and all these other aspects that are affecting our weather

in a greater fashion than the cloud seating. So reach out to all the legislators, not only in my

state, but your state, reach out to our chairman, Bertensha, here in the Idaho State Senate,

and let them know, man, this needs to be addressed, because if we wait too long, the,

the results and the effects are going to be irreversible. I think you're right, and I think that,

you know, you very effectively, I think, move back and forth here between kind of the macro level,

and the micro level, if you will, with this issue. And as you said, you know, being in politics,

there are limitations in terms of what you are able to accomplish, and there

compromises, and what not, you have to make here and there. But I think it's really, if you're

Van Bertenshaar, whoever you are, whatever rancher or whomever you might be in Idaho,

I'm going to say one more time. I think would really behoove anyone with that level of support

for traditional cloud seating in the state's agricultural state's west of the Mississippi,

to really take a good hard look at this, because the short-sighted view may be to say, well,

Hostettler's memorial is attacking old-fashioned cloud seating, but the reality is

the, what he's really attacking is exactly what's creating all of the problems that you're facing,

trying to grow food and raise cattle and so on in Idaho, due to this global effort, due to this

massive-scale manipulation of climate, that frankly, your silver iodide and your acetone aren't

going to be able to fix. You know, I mean, if you've got this heat dome and you've got, I mean, look,

if you're using, if you're seating clouds, but those clouds are all aluminum, you know,

artificial pseudo-serious clouds, that's not going to work as if you took an old-fashioned

cumulus cloud that's full of water and just water and spark the rainstorm out of it.

You've now got this sort of wet, wet diaper blanket at a low altitude all day every day,

loaded with aluminum and barium and strontium and titanium and every other heavy metal you can

imagine. You know, your old-fashioned cloud seating isn't going to, isn't going to,

isn't going to win the day and then furthermore, you're going to be conflated with them,

which is to the advantage of the black budget people. They want you out in front blocking this

activity, which is thwarting ironically your own efforts and then you're going to get subsumed

in it and so when it finally becomes a large-scale debate, which is coming to, I believe, very soon,

you're not going to have a place to hide. So I think it would be in the interests of people

who want to preserve that to say, hey, this isn't us and we aren't in favor of this

black budget stuff. We're doing something that's known that's out in the open and, you know,

it's just sort of like you don't really want to hide under, put your head in the sand and think

that somehow this isn't going to become an issue for you too. I don't know how to get that

message out to people. I hope you can do it. Perhaps they'll listen to this,

listen to this podcast and then and take some of this to heart. I think the other thing that I

would just say, I'm going to turn over the rest of the time, we have about five minutes on this

segment to you, Mr. Haas, but you know, you're working for Idahoans. You're working for Americans.

You're not working for the whoever, whoever DARPA or the CIA or whoever else is behind this

at a very, very high level. And I don't think the folks that currently may be standing in the way

of you are working for them either. So you guys are really on the same team. You just really have to,

I think, come to that realization. What are your thoughts? And I got about five minutes. I want you

to take this out and whatever way you think is best. Sure. And I appreciate that. I just want to

emphasize, you hit the nail on the head, you know, barring everything we've

discussed up to this point in regard to those who are invested in cloud seeding the farmers.

One, we always have to ask, are we giving our farmers our ag? Our people,

our emperors has no clothes. Let's look at the information. Let's keep transparency out there.

Immunity should never be on the table. But it is a win, win for them to do exactly what you said.

One, acknowledge they're not them. And you know, separate themselves, right? That's a win, right?

It helps to, to, you know, allow the people to see the issues for what they are. This is over here

at a small level, and this is the bigger issue. And, you know, at the end of the day, the sooner we stop

this, we're not going to have to be engineering, you know, aluminum, you know, resistant seeds,

right? This is what we're dealing with now. We've got seed companies. I think Bill Gates is

even in that right now. Yes he is. And we're factoring aluminum resistant seeds. Why? You know,

this is in our face. So, you know, the soil, keep our soil healthy, our water, right? Everything,

these are the most essential things here in Idaho and our air, our soil, our water. And of course,

us, right, my son, I wanted to be able to go out and play flag footballer sports and be able to

breathe in and I have to deal in myself, you know, middle age to get some early onset, you know,

dementia, Alzheimer's, all the lung issues that come with this, everything else that we haven't

seen yet. So, it's a win, win. But, you know, our group here, I'm a part of the, you know,

eight of us were called the G8, or they called us the gang of eight at first and not big fan of

that name, but we've, we've glammed on to that we've embraced it as we move forward where the,

the state freedom caucus network officially recognized caucus here in Idaho. We are fighting

for our state. We have pushed this geoengineering. We have a Facebook and an X that we did a early

geoengineering presentation two hours with a fireman, we had a researcher, we had a doctor.

I believe you saw that and we did another event, a lot of information in that. So, getting

formed with that. So, we're fighting hard and the more that we can speak up and speak out once

again, then it's where we need to go, what we need to continue to do. And another quick piece of

encouragement too is that for all you citizens, people forget, I'm seeing a little portion now,

you know, in politics, in the state house, these politicians are moved by money and influence

and of course moving up the ladder, but they are influenced even more by one thing.

They're constituents who will vote them out, who are informed and who harass them and keep

them accountable. So, reach out to your state representatives. If you get the word out, the

information war continues to expand and enough people say, hey, we're going to vote you out if

you do not get this thing done. That makes the politicians and the statesmen as well. I mean,

there's big difference between those. That gets the action moving. And so, I want to encourage

everybody. As we get more informed and this comes out, you can pick and choose who represents you

and who does nothing or something in the right direction. And so, really, that's where we're at right

now. I'm going to keep fighting. Lord willing, I get reelected and this is daunting. It's discouraging

politics is gnarly. It's a spiritual battle that manifests, you know, the spiritual battle manifests

socially and politically like never before here. And these issues we're dealing with are intense,

but we need people that are going to stand firm and fight hard. And that's what our groups do

and we're going to continue to do it. And I want to thank you and everyone else. There's so many

names that I've just that are swirling around in my head that I just want to thank for bringing this

to the forefront. I want to thank my citizens, soldiers here, like Sarah Hall, Stott once again,

and Rose Martina and many others that have stepped up and helped with the legislation and keep pushing.

And I know there are citizen soldiers in your state, Dr. Baker and all you listening. So I just

want to thank you again, Dr. Baker for bringing this to the forefront and for keeping this going

and for all the other fighters out there because Lord willing, we will win this battle and hopefully

sooner than later. Amen. Well, thanks very much. I'm going to go to break again, but ladies and

gentlemen, what an inspiring talk with Idaho State representative, Clint Haustatler. Clint,

I hope to have you back soon. And just keep up, keep fighting the good fight. God bless all of you

and God bless Idaho. Thank you. If if Van Bardenshow ever wants to come on my show and explain the

beauties of cloud seeding, he can, he's welcome. I'd love to talk to you. Yeah, thank you, brother.

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Baker MD on the America out loud pulse program on the America out loud radio network liberty

and justice for all. So I'd like to thank our special guest today, state representative from

District 24 in Idaho, Clint Hosteller, who is the sponsor of the anti geoengineering

memorial for the state of Idaho. And just to recap a little bit from the first two sections of

this podcast, it's an uphill battle even in a state like Idaho. One of the problems there is the,

I think it's very important that we realize that it is an uphill battle to

NGO engineering that it is going to be a multifaceted approach that is going to be needed.

And I think that at the state level, particularly west of the Mississippi, Mr. Hosteller makes a great

point that separating the very entrenched notions about traditional cloud seeding and separating

that concept from the, as he describes it, 99% of the problem, which is massive global scale,

stratospheric aerosol injection type geoengineering separating those two concepts is going to be very

important. It's interesting because we're in a situation now where many people think that still

think that this is a total conspiracy theory that no one's manipulating the weather in any shape,

matter or form. But then you go into a state house like Idaho and one form of weather manipulation

is sacrosanct. It's so well established that people won't even consider stopping it.

And then on top of that, we're seeing increased exposure of the notion that these absolutely

diabolical global scale geoengineering activities are real and have been real for many years.

As much as individuals like Dane Wigington from geoengineering watch and Peter Kirby in his book,

Chemtrails Exposed and other people have been fighting this battle for decades long before I

came into it. It's now just reaching the point where we're seeing articles in the Daily Mail,

one of the British press largest newspapers. We're seeing Dane Wigington and Peter Kirby getting

time on Tucker Carlson. Carlson has 17 plus million subscribers on his channel.

So this is out in the open now. And it's still an uphill battle, though. This is so deeply entrenched

in the deep state of the United States and into the deep state of other nations. Mr. Hosteller

prominently mentioned the UK, but it's hardly only in those two countries.

One of the other points that he made was I think very, very important. And that is that

if you are someone who supports traditional cloud seating, it may be short-sighted to

not want to separate your own activities from those that are going on at a global scale,

because it's much easier to support small scale cloud seating than it is to support global

climate manipulation. And if you choose to be lumped in with that second group,

when and if the accounting comes for them, you're certainly going to be included. So it would

be who the intelligent cloud cedar to say, hey, we're doing something local, we're doing something

beneficial, we're doing something limited, we're doing something that's out in the open.

We don't condone the secretive stuff that's going on any more than anyone else.

And that's not what we're doing. Furthermore, as we touched on in the first two segments,

traditional cloud seating is going to be thwarted by this massive scale

modification of the worldwide climate. When you have a heat dome over Idaho, you can spray all the

traditional cloud seating material you want up into the sky. It's not going to solve the problem.

So again, I just encourage people to open their eyes to recognize what is really going on.

And it's unpleasant to make that recognition. It's unpleasant to realize that you are being

sprayed without your consent, like an insect. But that's what's happening, unfortunately. And if we

stand up to it, we can stop it. And furthermore, if we don't stand up to it, then it's never going to stop.

Another topic that came up in our discussion that I want to follow up on is the 10th Amendment of

the Constitution. And the 10th Amendment, which is the last of the traditional bill of rights,

states as follows, and I quote, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution

nor prohibited by it to the states are reserved to the states respectively or to the people.

There's nothing in the Constitution, nothing whatsoever that designates that the federal government

can poison you. There's nothing in the Constitution that gives the federal government blanket

authority to manipulate natural phenomena on a massive scale at will.

The states have a right and is Mr. Hostel or stated they have a responsibility

to push back when the federal government overreaches. And that's why I believe it's so important

for the states to be taking action against geoengineering. You'll hear some people saying,

hey, you know, look what's happening in the states that have passed legislation. They can

enforce the airspace adequately to make it stop. And that's arguably true. In some instances,

it's not true. In many instances, it is. But in one sense, that isn't the point. The point is

that the states have a right and have a responsibility to demand the constitutional limits

on the federal government. And when a majority, when a sufficient number of states do that,

then things change. As Mr. Hostel or stated, yes, politicians at all levels respond to

influential lobbyists. They respond to money. But what they respond to ultimately is

the risk of them being voted out of office. Because once they're out of office,

it's over for them. They have no influence whatsoever. And so at some point, if we are to get our

federal government under some kind of control in the United States, and I think most of the listeners

here or many of the listeners, at least, would agree that our federal government is completely out of

control. We're going to have to invoke the 10th Amendment on a regular and insistent basis.

The 10th Amendment states, once again, the power is not delegated to the United States by the

Constitution nor prohibited by it to the states. I reserve to the states respectively or to the people.

And this is just one of the elements of our republic that has been ignored and undervalued and

has not been defended by the citizens and by the states. And this isn't just to do with

the geoengineering. This is to do with many other aspects of American life.

The states need to push back. That's one part of the solution, not only for geoengineering,

but for other similar problems. The overreach of the central federal government needs to be

stopped. So with that in mind, I'm going to sign off. This is Dr. Clayton J. Baker, MD,

on the America Out Loud Pulse Program, on the America Out Loud Radio Network, Liberty and Justice for all.