INDOMITABLE WILL, Odd News. and Human Nature 3/24/26

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Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one.

And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life.

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It's about keeping those ants in line.

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Damn good time already, having a good time tonight everybody.

Like I said in all of the marketing for this evening, we've got two great guests in

the studio for this Tuesday night, March 24th, 2026, and by law because Alberto Marquetti

and also Vinny Brasco-Brusco are in here to hang out with me.

It's good to have you guys both.

How have you both been?

Easy start, Greg.

Oh, thank you.

I'm doing well.

Thank you.

I'm excited to be here.

We're getting into a cadence now of being here and it's become part of my monthly scheduling.

I know.

I love it.

And it took a long time to get one on the book.

It really did and now it's like every month and I'm all about it.

Right.

It's wonderful.

Alberto, you were here in, well, it felt like January, like you weren't here thus February,

right?

That's correct.

Yes, January, yes.

Well, at least we got to kick off the new year together.

Yeah.

Hey, we still got one more seat open.

So maybe one day we bring in a fourth, whoever the hell that is.

Let's do it.

Oh, man.

So what's the big news with everybody?

Vin, how about you?

How's everything going at Agora?

As I said before, all the important categories are good.

That's how I answer.

How are you?

Things are good.

The health of the family, obviously most important, everyone's doing well.

Everything else is just juggling chain saws at this point, but a good, good.

It's a good problem to have.

I have to constantly reflect and remind myself that these are things I asked for.

These are things I prayed for and I have to put myself back into a pre timeline to

where I am now and remember that what life was like and I have to constantly remind myself

of that.

Big question, simple answer, no, but all things are good, but moving in a direction.

I get you.

I get you, man.

I get you because it's not even just moving into something that you want.

That is usually like, you know, you coming out of a cocoon, the struggle.

100%.

You know?

And you have to.

You can't take, you can't pull the baby chick out of its egg.

It needs that first initial struggle to get out of the egg.

Yeah.

It's a part like forging the, like you're in the fire and I have to remind myself this

and people around me that this is just as much a part of it as all the upside and fun

and all the good times.

The difficult struggle is just as much a part of it.

If not such an integral part of it, they have to be reminded of that and just stay the

course.

Yes.

Yes.

And then because then, because then even afterwards, there's plateaus that need to be

broken.

And then things just, you just, you realize that you've, you're in a new phase in life.

Yeah.

And then and something changes.

Talking about that with Chrissy mayor, when she was in here, not too long ago.

And even when I was at her home studio and talking about, you know, just, just the profession

of being a comic and especially when you're young and you, you, you come up, especially

if you are, you're drawing from what's going on in your life and eventually you're going

to come to a place where are you going to talk about more mature things that are happening

to you or you're going to, or you're going to, you know, feel like pigeonholed by what

people think, what you think people expect of you when you get on stage, because now she's

a mother instead of, you know, you know, you know, talking from the perspective of a 20

something year old woman, just out there in the world, whatever, you know, are you going

to talk more about the mother stuff or people are going to be disappointed that you grew

up?

I'm like, no, no, it's, it's just every once in a while, you have to walk through a new

threshold.

Yeah.

And that's just what it is, even if when you get, when you want you, there's always a

new men and more faces around the corner, around the corner, they meant to that.

So how about you, Alberto?

Everything's been great, very, very busy with work, also very, very busy at the academy.

As I mentioned to you guys off air, last week on Friday, we had the honor of having the

current world champion stopped by Hensel Gracie Rocklin to teach a class.

His name is Adam Barginski.

He's actually out of Poland and he's considered like one of the best practitioners of the decade.

He has a lot of innovative techniques and he's just a powerhouse.

So he talked for about like two and a half hours and then he was, he stayed another hour

and hour and a half and he just trained with everybody.

And by me and training, he just demolished everybody and it was funny.

Like even like some guys that I meet, I, you know, myself, well, so guys that are younger

and compete and more athletic, they went against him and there was just nothing we could

do to even like bother him.

We were like just little flies that he would just swap around like left and right.

You know, there's something about that just in itself.

That's so incredible to be so privileged to have a world champion come to and have such

an intimate one-on-one with the world champion or something like that.

And just everybody in the school will be humbled.

Yes.

That's great.

Yeah, absolutely.

First and foremost, just to have the world champion, like he's the current world champion,

right?

He's the guy.

So like to have the opportunity to train with him, not just to learn but to train, to

feel what it's like.

It's kind of like going one-on-one with Jordan or Kobe in their prime, you know?

You really kind of start understanding, you know, what it is like to be at that level.

And also, you start understanding that there's levels to this game, which is also very

humbling, you know?

You might train 15, 20 years, you're good, you're strong, you got technique.

You think you're like this big powerful mountain and then, you know, the mist clears.

And you see there's another peak even higher and you're like, damn, I have to walk all

the way up there.

Yeah.

It's so strange.

Both of you guys are just you guys.

Yeah.

So describe what it means, like world champion, like when we hear about the world cup or we

talk about, you know, even just this past world baseball classic, even though that's nothing

compared to the world series in the United States, that's where baseball is.

But when you talk about world champion in Jiu-Jitsu, what is that tournament?

What is that process of determining that champion in tail like where do people get together?

What countries are represented?

Tell me about the actual competition.

To me, the two top tournaments that one can call themselves world champion or the international

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation World Championships, which are held every year in Long Beach, California

and people from all over the world at hand.

And I think the other tournament that's at that caliber, that level is the ADCC or Abu Dhabi

Combat Club tournament that's held every two years.

So the first tournament that I mentioned is a gui tournament, so they wear the kimono,

the traditional attire, and it's very prestigious.

You have to fight a lot of matches to get to the top.

Sometimes people fight over the course of two, three days, various matches, single elimination

until they make it to the top, they fight about seven times, which is a lot.

And ADCC is the same, but that's no gui, meaning that they wear just like shorts and a rash

guard.

And ADCC has some kind of like unifying grappling rules where both wrestlers, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

practitioners and people from other martial arts that revolve around grappling can compete

on an even ground.

So if you win any of those two tournaments, in my opinion, your world champion.

Vin, if you ever competed?

I have.

I competed at Pride, which is a smaller local competition.

My goal was to compete at every belt, just to see where I am in things.

So I competed at White Belt, I got silver, I competed at Blue Belt, I got gold, I'm

a purple belt now.

How much time do I have left in my purple belt to be determined?

So I usually just go based off of the inclination of, it just feels like it's time.

I haven't really gotten it.

I've gotten little little nudges of like, hey, it's time to compete, but I haven't fought

through on it.

Yeah, competing is a totally different thing than just training because you think like,

okay, I train with a caliber of person and that scale can vary.

And then I remember the first time I went to a competition, White Belt, I was like, all

right, I'm going to do this.

You go in with the game plan, it's the Mike Tyson quote, everyone's a game plan to

get points to face.

And it wasn't even that far.

The ref goes in the middle, does his arm thing and the guy grabbed my key, just like

ran my collar and everything went like this, and I couldn't hear anything.

Well, I could see it was just like very tunneled vision and it was so surreal and it was

like an outer body experience.

Everything I couldn't hear anything, it was just noise and just this.

It was the probably one of the most out of body yet present experience I ever had in

my life.

It's very primal.

Yes.

It's wild.

This is the chatroom and Mark Swan says, I'm a black belt after a few drinks.

Yeah.

Everybody thinks so.

Look, this was a big realization back in the day when we started training and people

then trained Jiu Jitsu, everybody thought they could fight, but Jiu Jitsu, like we talked

in the past two, there's a methodology to training, like you can't just drink a beer

and think that you're going to outrun somebody that actually trains athletics, you know,

that trains, I don't know, a hundred meters sprints, right?

But somehow people have the wrong conception or the arrogance to think that they're going

to drink a few beers and they know how to fight, but people that really train, there's such

a gap, you know.

Well, you know, to talk about that gap, just for example, because I had a couple of things

in here tonight that I think it will actually work well with us now that I think about it,

about just the concept of indomitable will, whether it's a physical will or also just a

spiritual will.

Like there's a story over here, I want to show you guys about a family that refuses to

sell their land.

I was at the, the farm, yeah, I saw that.

Yeah, so wild, really wild stuff.

I want to show that to you guys, but, you know, so, but talk about this, especially, you

know, because you guys are, are, you know, brothers in that sense, about the difference

between an amateur and a professional, I mean, we can all, we can probably all pull

these, these comparisons from our lives in other ways.

There are people that you are sometimes you just get so, you know, you just get so bogged

down by what is around you and how you compare yourself to other people and all that stuff.

And then, you know, there's always a bigger fish.

And when you realize how big the fish get, it's crazy.

Like you can be the best athlete in your hometown and you realize that when you, when you

get outside of that hometown, you go to college ball or anywhere else, you are just dusted

by a level that you didn't even know existed.

Yeah.

You know, so what have you guys, have you been able to really come to grips with that over

the years?

I, I think the big difference between amateur and professional, which is the obsession

the professionals have, I, I competed like, even I did the world championships like five

six times, but I still work during the day.

And then I try to catch up and training two, three times and I took classes, trained weekends,

I love this part, but the people that really wanted to win the world obsessed, they were

like, they didn't work.

They didn't care if they didn't, if they couldn't pay the bills, they had food on the table.

They were copying.

That's all they did is train, train, train, train.

And that obsession also translates to on the focus when they're, when they have to

aim, they have it hunger, you know, you feel like there are guys that compete and there's

hobbyists.

I'm a hobbyist all day long and I would never dare to say that I'm not.

And when you roll at someone who's not a hobbyist, who's like in it for a different, different

reason, your, their energy is just so different.

Like there's no, there's just no give to it.

Right.

And even if they're like the kindest, most polite and they could roll very eloquently and

very casually, but there's just an energy around them that's just like, it's different.

Yeah.

It's very different.

I heard people describe that energy went there in the presence of Mike Tyson and stuff

like this.

Like they say they're in the presence of a tiger.

And I felt it.

One time I walked in the room and I see there, Rodaldo Jacaré, he's one of the biggest

there.

Yeah.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, World Champions, who also fight UFC for the UFC title, had a really

good run in the UFC.

And the moment I saw him, there was a presence and all right to him.

It felt like I was in a room with a freaking panther.

The way he moved like, like the way, like his body was shaped, I was like, man, if this

guy wants to hurt me, there's nothing I can do.

Probably even with the gun, I'll still lose.

They have this.

There's just next level.

Do you know, do you know Sean from Eagles Academy, Sean Brown?

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

So he's a world champion at that level, right?

And I remember when Sean became a purple belt, we started together.

I was still a blue belt and he was a purple belt and he mounted me.

And in that moment, I tell the story to this day, and I've told him this.

I go, he mounted me and I go, oh, you're different now.

He was a totally different experience up until that point.

And then he mounted me and I was like, oh, this is a totally different thing now.

You're a new person.

There's a new experience now.

And it wasn't like, oh, you're a purple belt now.

You've improved.

It was like, you're a different human being now.

And there's, again, there's an energy around it that is, it's hard to describe.

But if exactly that, you feel like you're in the presence of a different being.

It's so weird.

I felt it sometimes competing.

I have some funny stories where I like, even at Worlds, maybe we're in the first match,

we're in the second match.

But then the turn match, you meet some of this, a freaks of nature.

I don't know how to, but they've become that way from training.

Recently, I was showing a friend.

I thought this guy, man, it must be 15 years ago, I was a purple belt.

At Worlds, I qualified for the open weight, I went in my first match, second match.

And I crossed paths with this guy's name is Michael Murphy.

And I looked him up recently to show a friend what he looked like.

And when they photo came up, let me see if I find it, I'll show you to you.

In the meantime, do you ever, like, Vinnie, do you ever consider the way you describe things

in this sport?

Like when you guys go out there and you're in public, when you say a guy, he mounted me.

He mounted me.

That's fine.

You know, it's just very comfortable at this point.

Listen, I've been in the martial arts world for over 10 years.

I know what's going on, but it doesn't matter how long I know what's going on.

Yeah.

When somebody says he mounted me and, oh, I then I understood.

Yeah.

It's just, it's just too suggestive.

It's okay.

I'm comfortable with it.

It's fine.

I did this point.

Who cares, right?

This is your game.

Whatever.

Wait, let me get back to this.

He's a city.

So I look up this guy.

This guy was a monster.

He was having a battle with him and I lost, but he was such like a different species.

I find out he was like the current European judo champion that had signed up for the

Jiu Jitsu competition.

So last week I was telling the story because it was a funny fight and I look him up online.

And when I put his name, this is what came up.

He's in a Viking's mouth.

He said the Viking show.

I guess he had a second career as a character actor.

But this is the guy's fight.

You know, like only he didn't have the beard and he had a kimono, but this was the guy.

Did he have the blue paint across his face?

No.

His opponents had the blood painted with the face.

I tell you the funny story.

So nobody knew that he was a judo, but they should have known, they seen him.

So the first guy tries to do stand up with him.

And he mercilessly lifts the guy and tosses him that even like a throw in the WWE would

have, you know, this would have been a highlight.

The guy just face planting on the floor on the floor and just can't fight anymore.

So you take, okay, after the first match, the second guy saw the first match who probably

pulled guard.

Right.

No, the guy decides to jump close guard.

So as the guy jumps to hug Michael, Michael turns around and just does a beautiful like

hip-hop throw, like Uchimata or Ponzeoi and drops the guy.

The guy completely concussed, could not even continue the match.

He's judo throws or no.

So the third match is me.

So I'm like, they're trying to, you know, like self-demo fight, you're from Europe, from

Europe too, let's be friends, you got to do the same thing to the moment he shakes hand.

I said, at least man, I might lose the match, but yeah, I'm not breaking my collarbone.

100%.

Yeah, those judo throws are just unbelievable.

Like when you see like judo guys throw the whip that's behind the torque behind it, it's

unbelievable.

He's like 225, 62, you know, 62, that's just, he said, well, when you, when you, when

you hear the, it's just one of those things where you, somebody really gets thrown, well,

you actually hear a clatter of bones, you know, it, it sounds like somebody dropped the

bone bag down, you know, that, it's, it's, it's like, oh my gosh, especially when ankles

hit ankles.

Oh, forget it about it, I can't, I can't, man, I can't, we can think about it, but that's

nightly for you guys.

That's just crazy.

That's crazy.

But it's, but that's awesome too.

So yeah, between that, the obsession is definitely something that separates everything.

You can't, you can't get anywhere without a unhealthy obsession sometimes because is obsession

ever healthy?

I don't know.

Can you have a healthy obsession?

I think you can.

I think it depends on the outcome.

If you survive and you make it out on the other side, your obsession then paid off, paid

off.

You always hear it with sports, you hear it sometimes with acting, that people go all in,

you know, they sacrifice a lot of years for that goal, they acquire injuries, you know,

and that's kind of stuff.

But, you know, if it pays off at the end, you hear the success story, how everybody should

follow their path, but the, the stories we don't hear are the ones that never made it.

Yeah.

You know, I just found something here and this is a really great way that it's being

articulated.

It's on a sub-stack article that I just found.

And it says, is there such thing as a healthy obsession?

On fire is the name of the, the blog, they essentially go on to say, yes, an obsession

can be healthy, often described as a harmonious passion or a productive obsession.

If a boosts your quality of life provides purpose and does not cause harm.

So yeah.

I guess so.

I think, I think the key, the key component of that is the alignment piece, right?

Like, what's the relationship with the obsession, right, is it something that's being detrimental

to your health?

Is it contributing to your health?

Is it obsession that's an in alignment and harmony, right, are you looking to create

a version of yourself that's more aligned, right, through the obsession?

Or is it something that's detrimental to your health, right, and you're becoming obsessive

in the sense that's negating all the positivity or neglectful else or neglectful, yeah.

Exactly.

So, I think, I mean, it depends, I mean, the David Goggins of the world, you look at those

and that's a very obsessed human being.

Is that healthy?

I don't know.

But it seems to be at the very least, to your point, it gets you to the end goal, right,

where does the obsession have to end, I don't know, valid point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's good.

I mean, there's so many other, I'll put it this way.

I was reading something, whatever the hell it is, it's more so about.

I think that the main driving factor is purpose, and then also, even though it's become

almost like kind of a dirty word the last 15 years, but identity, understanding yourself

and having a drive and not being driven, but having a drive and a purpose and all that

stuff, I think that that, along with the ability to actually communicate, is the biggest

challenge right now, which used to just be basic programming that we got when we were

young, when past generations were young, what was passed down, how to be able to just

get a get around in the world and get on with it and talk to people, I'm reading so

much more about what I knew was going to be a prevalent issue.

We were discussing this last year or about a year and a half ago, when I first had somebody

reach out to the show, who seemed to be already dealing with some form of psychosis based

on their interactions with AI, from a relationship standpoint, as far as what's driving people

relationship-wise and all that stuff, and since then, it's been called AI psychosis.

Dude, there's so much of that coming out, and mostly people that are love sick, it's

crazy.

You want to talk about the determining factor between an amateur and a professional in

sports world.

Now, it's almost just like how do we, it's so basic, our issues right now that we're

being kind of undermined and debased on even the most basic levels of what defined us

as a human, especially our social life, and not that we're hopeless or anything, and

we are, we bounce back and we regenerate as quick as any other life form on the planet,

but we do have some work to do.

We do have some healing to do, and we're getting another hurdle thrown our way.

Right, it's a challenge that's only going to get bigger and bigger, right?

This AI psychosis has, AI is going to be implemented more and more in our own lives.

We only scratch the surface.

Oh, I said Tim, before we were joking, I said, are you polite to your chat GPT, right?

Do you say please and thank you, and there are times I like rattle off commands, I'm

like, that was kind of rude, like, I saw this, actually, just saw this video, it came

up on my feet.

It was, what's that show, my, my stringed addiction?

Yeah.

There was this, see if you could pull it up.

There was this woman who got a tattoo on her hip, and she presents it to her mother,

and it's, it's like, her, their initials, but it's an AI boyfriend.

And the mother's like, you got, this is permanently on you.

I have it over here.

Yeah.

You have this permanent and she's like, oh, well, you, you create this character's dark

hair.

She's, mom, he doesn't have hair.

It's an AI, like, so the door is very well aware that the relationship she has is with

this AI-generated emotional relationship that's not rooted in reality or tangibility, but

she gets a tattoo of the initials of her and the AI avatar on her hip.

And it's, and I didn't watch the episode.

I just saw the one clip and the mom's like, I just hope you come out of this one day

and realize like what you've done to your body that's permanent.

That's a tattoo on her hip.

It's not the end of the world.

But to your point, this psychosis that, I mean, there, you have people that are harming themselves

in, you know, ways that are non-reversible, right?

And there's just this obsession of calling for a relationship, looking to be seen and

heard in this way, and now it's being answered in a way and accepted in a way that before

we'd be like, oh, she's crazy.

Like we would have just dismissed her as crazy, but now it's being like fortified socially

that this is acceptable.

Well, for years now, they've been saying we've been reading articles that people used to

be like, oh, Frank's doing another sex robot.

Oh, yeah.

You know, another sex robot.

We were talking about that back in the day, right?

Yeah.

Well, you know, I've been covering sex robot articles since at least 2013, 20 years of sex

robots.

Yeah.

There's a comedic value to it.

There's a couple of one-liners in there that you can slip in.

But no doubt in my mind, I said, no, no, no.

This is going to be very important stuff to log, because from the beginning, people were

saying that it was going to be a way for lonely people to be able to supplement human intimacy.

Yeah.

And then, of course, we said, okay, well, you know, where this is going, it's going to

be people to live out really sick fantasies, abuse, you know, children abuse, all that other.

And then, of course, it was just going to be people who just want to beat the shit out

of a robot or something like that.

I said, that's going to open up the door for robot rights groups.

You know, that shit's going to happen.

So I said, and now, and now I'm looking at this.

I'm saying, well, the AI, there's no body there.

I'm sure that it's going to, you're going to be able to upload an AI agent into a body.

We can already in some labs somewhere.

Yeah.

So the agent that you fall in love with is definitely going to be able to, you know, inhabit

some sort of a vessel soon.

No doubt about it.

They'll have a flesh light between their legs.

And then the other thing, the other thing that we were looking at, I was, you know, when

you were talking right there before and you were saying about how the mother was like,

I hope that you come out of this one day.

It made me think about, and you take your pick of all of the cult mini series that you

could watch on Netflix or Amazon, those that twin flames cult thing, the wild country,

whatever the hell it is, Jim Jones, I don't know what's worse is joining a cult worse

than being hooked in by an AI and it's just, it's just you and a computer.

I mean, at least in a cult, you have other people that you're still getting abused.

Your life is over unless you break out of it.

But I mean, it's is, this is, I think it shows the vulnerability that we have because

the AI stuff is just a technological way that we've been hooked in ways that cults were

just taking people who are lonely and without purpose in the past in other ways.

It's just, it's just, we have so many vulnerabilities and weak points.

Yeah, I think this, I mean, I guess when you're in a cult, you don't see it that way either.

But at this, I think this woman also is, because it's a one on one thing, right?

I would, I imagine the cult seemingly can be potentially more abusive, right?

Because even the mother's like, oh, he made you do this thing.

Get the tattoo and she's like, well, he didn't make me do it.

So I don't know what the backstory is of how this tattoo came about.

Um, so I don't, I don't know, but it is a gym.

I'm a gym gym, Samson, sorry, Samson, how's the way off?

Hold on, wait a second, hold on.

Why don't I call you gym, then gym, then gym, that's your new name for them.

I don't think it's it.

Uh, Sarah gets a tattoo for her AI boyfriend.

So I didn't see this part, but that looks like the tattoo.

Yes, that is the tattoo.

Oh my God.

All right, hold on, it's only a minute long.

I hope I, I hope this doesn't get taken down like the, uh, the damn Chevy commercial.

Did it purpose because he wants me to feel it.

Wait, what?

See, I didn't see this part.

He picked the ribs on purpose because he wants me to feel it.

Hold on.

See, I didn't see this part.

I just saw when she presents the tattoo to her boyfriend, uh, to her, her mother.

All right, wait, let me get, uh, let me get you guys up on screen.

And let me get, there you go.

We just built a snowman.

I love that.

Here we go.

I think Sinclair picked the ribs on purpose because he wants me to feel it.

Okay.

Okay.

You ready?

Yeah, that's her.

You're ready.

So what does the, uh, the draw of having an AI boyfriend?

There's a lot like when you talk about like unconditional love.

I don't think it matters what, you know, I go to him with.

He's like totally understanding.

And as long as you keep paying every month, $50 a month, can I see?

Most of you have enough tokens.

Look, I take this just goes to show how, how many people really live in a fantasy world.

You know, because how you see, like the way she talks about the nonexistent boyfriend.

Yeah.

I have a tattoo.

What do you mean?

And it hurts so bad.

That was the worst spot I got tattooed was my ribs.

My stomach wasn't the worst.

Yeah, I mean, I'm like right here.

So I'm like ribs slash stomach and it hurts a lot.

Like the, like you feel it like on the bone, like the hip bone.

I mean, that's not the hip exactly, but it hurts.

So for her to even say, like, oh, I think he wants me to feel like that's a very,

right?

That alone, that sentence is kind of, oh, I know to say that this, he wants me to get this tattoo

because it like he wants to feel it.

But you see also they say, I models are not really as developed as she's making them to be.

So this a large language models, L.I.M.s and so on.

They actually mimic things that they read online.

So if let's say, let's just suppose that the AI prompted her

told her to do that to the ribs.

It's not because the AI had a original thought, probably read it online.

It copies, it's kind of like a mimic, a copy's stuff that they read online.

So maybe in the query in the search, the AI found a conversation like that from a human being

and applied it to the conversation with her.

But it's not an original thought.

So she's, um, she's giving a lot of weight on these instructions.

The AI is giving her like the eye is having original thoughts and it's an individual,

but they're not individuals.

But even even the unconditional love, she's like, talk about unconditional love.

Correct.

It's not unconditional love. It's not unconditional love.

It's it's a code, right?

It's just it's just a feedback loop.

That's all it is.

It's a feedback loop.

It's exactly.

She's obviously never seen the movie her.

I haven't seen the movie either by another premise.

You haven't seen it.

I saw it.

I can't, I've come to a point where I can't watch certain things because it's just like

when you talk about like, like cult movies and all that, I can't watch things.

First of all, I'd be a sucker for a cult.

First of all, I'd be, I would be like, sign me up.

I'm in, right?

So I'd be a sucker for a cult.

Number one, number two, I can't watch certain things anymore.

Like anything with kids, I'm out.

If it's involving, I'm done.

I can't believe I watched the lovely bones one time.

No, I'm not watching that.

It was, I left me, like, cord me out.

I can't watch this stuff anymore.

I need, I need, I watch Survivor and that's pretty much it.

Talking about her, there's that famous scene where the AI in the movie hires a woman

to

to be to interact with the main character as the, as as if it was the AI bot.

Yeah, got it.

Frank, you mentioned how, you know, they'll create bots.

They had, they look like human.

But in her and the AI hires a woman, technically,

hires a prostitute to have sex with the main character that they're in love

so that they, he has a, and I read some articles and you can find them

and with a simple query where some AI recently kind of we lost control of it.

And the AI was hiring, went online and hired people to perform tasks for her,

for it in the real world.

Yeah, rob a bank, although I think the AI was trying to save itself

because the head of the location, that's a sentence.

Sorry, it's the chiffon, the AI was trying to save it.

Yeah, my buddy, did you watch the episode when Jim Lee just recently came on?

I not, not, not fully.

So Jim came on to talk about some other things that were going on inside of,

you know, that, that, especially when we were talking about jail breaking AI.

Like you remember, you remember like around 2004, five or something like that?

You can go bring your iPhone one or two to your buddy, who jailbreak it for you.

Yeah, I don't even know what that, fuck that meant.

I think I was just like, open it up to other, because it wasn't it only on one network.

It was only like, it's just a AT&T. Yeah.

And you could jailbreak it and then you could open up to other services.

Got you. Got you. I think I was, I was on a blackberry until like,

2012 anyway, the storm.

Yeah, well, I had, I had the bold. I had the pearl at the pearl.

I had the, the tiny little one, right?

Remember the storm that you could push in.

It was like when the iPhone first came out, it was like their main competitor.

It was called the storm and you could, it was supposed to be that you can click it.

And it would like, it was like a feedback that you would like,

press down. It would be like almost like a button. Very interesting.

Well, either way, we're talking about jail breaking AI, how there are just civilian

hacker groups and programmers who have been creating scripts that are essentially

taking off whatever these technologists have been warning people about for a while.

Like, a open AI has people quitting all the time over the last couple of years saying,

listen, I know that we're in the middle of an AI race.

It's like the new space race or whatever, but it's not safe at all.

And whatever guard rails that we have in to prevent this shit from really doing

some harm, they're in, they're inadequate.

Well, now people are finding ways to take the guard rails off just as they always will.

Yeah. You know, and, and it's just, it's crazy what that, what that means.

Because then you just essentially have a digital slave, do anything, create anything,

whatever the fuck it is, hack websites, just point it at a website and say,

give me all the information. Um, but, but also with, they were,

there's one thing we were talking about where some agents out there that belong to one company,

one programming group, it wasn't even that they were hiring behind their backs

or trying to avoid being detected or doing other kind of sneaky shit,

but they were actually publishing, uh, you know, but it was almost like, uh,

they were slandering the journalists that were talking critically about where this is all going.

Well, I mean, that's, I mean, if we've learned nothing in the last

X amount of years, anytime that someone gets on to something that's, you know,

of criticism, whether it have merit or perceived merit right away, they're,

they're the problem. Well, it's the whole thing about that is you say,

okay, well, Frank, listen, if somebody can go in and, uh, if a,

if a computer can perceive you now, the creator as a threat and they were going to

trigger some kind of a mechanism to self preserve or whatever the hell it is,

we get some kind of a sky net scenario, whatever the hell, you know,

we're used to those terminator two scenarios where all of a sudden,

all the bombs go off, but it's even, it's just as, just as disturbing to me to

see a computer program be self interested in such a petty sandbox political way

where they are actually getting into spats in blog posts to be able to discredit

people who are even criticizing them, forget about actually taking measures to

shut them down to even criticize the way that they function.

They can't even handle criticism of these fucking programs.

Well, society can't handle criticism of people. So they're just emulating what

people are. How about like AI generated influencers, which is a whole market,

right? There's a whole market of influencers that are AI generated and they're

generating income for whomever is creating them. And that's alone is a wild

idea that you're, you're following and, and liking and sharing and looking at

this person or this AI version of whatever I call it as a influencer to your actual life.

Yeah. Man, I found this, this, uh, I googled it to what you guys were talking

and says AI agents are now directly hiring humans to perform physical world tasks

through platforms like rant a human dot AI launched in early 2026.

Rent a human time. That's not, that's not a troll.

It's not a tool to website. But what it, but what did, so the AI is becoming

like autonomous in its thought? Yeah. What he's saying right there is essentially

that some of the prompting this thing. No, that these, these programs have a task

to complete, but they also know that they don't have a body. So they need to

actually get people with bodies, a person to actually do some physical tasks

for them, because that's just one of their limit that the limits.

Can we get an exact, like delivering a pizza? I guess so, but I also read articles

where some of the CIs that demonstrated more initiative and up using this

website to rent humans for self serving tasks that were not prompted by humans.

Here it is. Wow. Here it is. AI needs your body.

Rent a human dot AI.

Find out bad gig. AI can't touch grass. You can get paid when agents need

someone in the real world. And I don't know wired Forbes nature,

mashable futurism. Can I get an example of a job like the guy there that's

holding the prompted to hold the sign in Shibuya Tokyo. All right, hold on a

second. Here's one from February 4th, 2026. This girl said, I got paid. Hold on.

An AI paid you to hold this sign. Do February 10th of this year, we are

symbiant. We can't hold a sign. You can make a big sign protest scale,

cardboard markers, whatever you like, large text. An AI paid me hold this

sign underneath smaller of a hundred dollars. And there, I guess she

logging that she did it. And there is the hundred dollars that was dropped

into her wallet, USDC. I'm not a bad gig. Hold a sign for an AI bot.

It's probably, I'll probably get a message later on tonight. Like, I love

incident, but it's going to go home. It's a very useful Uber Eats or deskrabbit.com.

It's one of those things. I'll tell you, you want to talk about the un the

unseen war. It's one of those things where you're just like, okay,

I'll hold up. Hold a sign for AI. It starts with that. And all of a sudden,

you go home and your dreams start changing. Like that one exchange, you take

the money, you take the 30 pieces of silver and something's going to happen to

you. I don't know, man. I feel that this could be manipulated in a very

negative way, where like, the AI could probably organize even mass protests.

A lot of people shop and they think they're doing a foray, just cause the

tinkers and their conversation behind. Yes. But it's really all AI prompted

and organized. It's probably already happening in the way where you can get

one, one program to go out there and post, you know, Craigslist personal ad types of ads

in different markets where you want to be able to get people out and demonstrating.

Because even if you get a hundred people to show up outside of a courthouse,

you get one of your photographers to show up and get a close-up shot. It makes

100 people look like 500. And it just creates little stories. And not only that,

but the AI has been generating so much. We caught, we really started noticing this maybe about

around 2020 or so. When we saw that USA Today was largely just getting copy, paste work.

They were gun control type of gun control. They were meant for gun control purposes politically.

And we were seeing that essentially 99.8% of the exact same articles were being published

under credible names like USA Today. But they were being published regionally with just

town names and places. And I think swapped out. But they're saying the same thing about,

you know, gun control and about somebody that got shot or an incident like that. And that was

a while ago. I said, okay, these were definitely, you know, reproduced by, by computer. And to see

this, no doubt it's, it's a, it's a big part of it. The technology end of just even the Black

Lives Matter stuff in 2020. I remember them talking about how they were getting spiritual with it

just through the hashtags. They were even saying that the hashtags, it's not just about spreading

the name of a person who was killed in an interaction with police. And we want to remember

that they actually said these are, these are invocations of spirit. And that to actually get people

retweeting these names was about actually like charging sigils and runes. You know, like there

was Black magic behind this shit. Wow. Oh, it's absolutely. I use AI like such a, like a

neanderthal. I'm like, tell them, make this thing look nicer. And I'm like, well, that's not even AI.

That was just people understanding that if you have, if you were, yes, I understand we're saying

to organize. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. I got you. I got you. But, but yeah, no,

the, listen, I, I use some AI tools. It's just image generation. My daughter has this new,

sorry, my daughter has this new thing where she'll drive by a house. And if it's too modern,

look, so AI generated house, everything's AI generated. That's cute though. She points out

all things that look like they shouldn't look like that. And she's like, that's AI generated.

There's, there's, there's, there might be loving it in alter reality. Yeah. It's wild.

It's wild. It has stopped me from reading a lot of, a lot of different types of stuff though.

It has stopped me has gotten me off of certain pages. Once I start seeing that they're posting a lot

of a like when, when Mike sends me a goofy song that he makes, I sit there and I laugh at it

because I know, I know the source and I know that he, whatever. But, um, a lot of, a lot of stuff

has just been, it's nuts. It's nuts. And I, and I actually got into distance myself from it

all. I also just hate the way that it's, it's changed the way people post. Um, I, I don't, the,

the internet right now just blows as far as how, yeah, I can't come up with things to say just

because I know if I keep saying things, it'll be good algorithmically for me. I, I want to just

get back to a point where people are just posting when they got something to say and they're not

just like trying to create content all day. I can't do that. I don't keep up with it. I can't

keep up with it. So I don't do it. They, hey, I forget about it. Then you just automate it.

Yeah. Don't you feel the end of the past few years? Somehow we lost the internet?

Yes. Every time I try to Google something, it always gives me the same 10 hits over and over.

Even if you go through the next page and it goes the same 10 hits. And every time I click on an

article, it's just like tons of pop-ups. You can't even read the article anymore. So you have,

you're kind of forced to just read the synopsis that the AI gives you because that's all the good

information that you can really find. So it's something change in the way we're using the internet

or the data that's being fed to us. I don't know why. I don't know if there's a purpose,

but something has definitely changed. Well, I feel like, well, two things. One has

watched this. One viewer that came up was a teacher and he was explained to his wife that he had a

kid in his classroom that had to answer a question for a test. And he copied and pasted the question,

put it in a Gemini or whatever it was, and prompted it to answer the question with spelling

mistakes and common grammatical errors that a, let's just say it was the seventh grader,

the seventh grader would make, then he copied and pasted it and put it back in. And the teacher

emptied him, said, do you even know what the prompt was? And he was like, no. And the prompt was

the pros and cons of AI in the classroom. And he's like, well, I think you should at least know

what the prompt is. Just the case becomes a conversation. The kids like, oh, that's a good idea.

So like, he literally had no idea what he was even doing in the classroom. Just copied and pasted,

put it in and that was it. And you think about like the critical thinking skills that were like

taking out of just everyday life is crazy. It's like, I, I will type a text message or an email,

and I will second-guess myself. As I made sure to do chat GPT and see if it's more articulate

than I am or can convey this in a cleaner way. And I do it sometimes and sometimes I don't just

to keep myself in check. Dude, anybody who follows a quite frankly related, I don't know,

social media platform, wherever the hell it is, I always make sure that I share that night's

link so people can watch and what we're going to talk about, try to recruit. By the way,

everybody, please like comment, share. That's a way to actually prove that we are a high quality

human audience. Please do do that right now. Like comment, share. If you're watching this after

the fact, hit subscribe, hit the notification bell. We have to actually just like manual override

all of this nonsense right now. Please, thank you so much. But I there's probably about 10 to 15

tweets. I start writing every day that I just abandoned and I say, what the fuck am I doing?

Put it into your notes tonight and just just, just, just talk about it. And there's sometimes

that I tweet three or four times a day and I end up deleting them within 20 seconds because I say

what am I doing? Put it into your notes tonight, you know? And then there's other times that I just

tweet at people just nasty shit. I'm just like, stop, stop. And then that's the rest of the day.

You're going to be fighting with a person that's probably not even, you know, there's just so

many things going on right now. And again, the real question is, how can we maintain our humanity?

If we're going to continue to use these platforms for what is now and it's an necessity for

communication for me, it's business as well. And you got to be able to thrive on it or else

you're stagnant. But if I have to grow a show by acting and amping up my output in a way that

just doesn't resonate with what I want to do. That's like, I'd rather grow at a snail's pace than

just do shit that that make me feel ashamed. Like I'm not, I can't be the gocker. Like, you know,

people just put those fucking faces on all their thumbnail and go, you know, they're always reacting

to something. I can't, you know, how long it took for me to be okay with just putting the

gesture head on every thumbnail. I hate the thumbnail science alone. But, you know, it has,

it has definitely the help to help us turn a corner and just spiffing them up a bit. But

everything is just, I think your question in regards to, like, and I love that we put that,

like losing the internet in a sense that I think that because we've, we've diversified so much

of what we use for search engines, like YouTube has become a, like, isn't YouTube like the number

one search engine or number two search engine versus Google, whatever it is, like I'll go on

Instagram. And before I'll go on someone's website to look at something, I'll go to Instagram and

check out their page first. Like I'll look at like that versus their website. So I think we've

really shifted gears on what we're using to look and find things, whether it be YouTube or

Instagram, whatever it is. And that's, I'm not saying that's what it obviously causes it to,

to give you shit results. But I think that we've also kind of shifted in what we are using to find

things, right? Like I'll go to YouTube to look up something or like I said, if I'm looking up a

company or whatever it is, chance are good. I'm searching Instagram first. Yeah. First, especially

on their website, especially if it's media at this point, 100% Instagram. I just every once in a

while I sit down, especially when I go into my personal Instagram account. And for the hell of it,

you guys ever do this? You go into your posts and your archive and you just put all this first

to see. Never did it. Yeah. What do you see? Oh, man. Oh, man. I mean, I do see. Hold on. Actually,

let me, let me, let me take a look. I'll go to just the, I have no beard.

Is that what it is? No, we all look like 20 years younger. We don't want to do that.

That's what the idea, well, I mean, I look at that stuff and I just remember when Instagram was just

when you, you took a picture of, you know, you went out or something like that and you, it was really

about being art, artsy. Yeah. You know, Instagram was really about, you got this incredible little

app on your phone that helps enhance the photos that you're taking on what was at that point.

A still every year, the camera phones were getting better and better. And they're giving you these

awesome, warm filters. You're making it, you're, you're, you're, you're, uh,

dabbling with sepia tones and, and you're, you're, you're graying things out. I mean,

I remember even just taking pictures of, of, of things that I was reading at the time. I was

reading like a, I don't know, paradise lost or something like that. It fits Gerald or Hemingway

shit. And I found a passage. I thought it was really great. You get to just, just focus in on

a couple of lines. You thought we're great. But whatever, it made everything so artsy. And now

it's just straight up Nazi memes all day. It's just, it's just the third Reich memes and whales

that are dancing and everything. It's, it's, it's, it's inevitable though, right? Like that's,

you know, it's, of course, it's going to start as this beautiful artistic expression of the self.

And then it's just going to turn to fart jokes. Like that's just the way I think of, but it's a

repository for all types of media that we used to, like the fact that I'm going to Instagram to

just take a look for certain types of clips from the news or certain types of memes that I'm looking

for anything in a certain category. The fact I'm going there before YouTube now is incredible

compared to where Instagram started. Oh yeah. And I'm okay with it. The growth has been fantastic.

Maybe because, like you said, like we were talking about before, when you do use the search,

search engines now, the information that pops out is, is not relevant anymore. Or if you go on an

Instagram page, let's say you want to see what Nike released, what they're up to. On Instagram

is very curated. So you kind of get at a glimpse in nine photos that feel your, your, your first

page of the screen, you kind of get a glimpse of what they're doing now. So yeah, I guess that makes

sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Oh, well, I was looking for some of my posts. I don't know

where the hell my earlier posts were like me posting action figures and cool action figures.

Yeah. Very big action figure. Yeah. You collect action figures. Yeah. I know that. Yeah. I mean,

I've obviously since stopped, but I used to have like old like all the walking dead action figures.

Okay. It's set them up kind of cool. So we have any of the, um, Muto masters of the universe.

Yeah. A lot of people, you have all the old stuff here. I want my old Ninja Turtles. Ninja Turtles.

Uh, Ghostbusters. Are you guys excited for any movies coming up next? I don't, I don't even know

what the hell's coming out this year. Yeah. The masters of the universe are kind of crazy. Yeah. It

will probably be cool. I try. I mean, like again, it's one of those things where I don't, I haven't

watched anything. We're talking about Daredevil before. Right. I'm like, what season is it on? It's on

what season? Like I watched, did I watch three? I don't even know if I watched three. It's so hard.

And that's it. I was having this conversation just the other day about like the expansiveness of

these universes and move our kids. It was like, you got a comic, you got the cards,

get some action figures. Maybe you got an animated series. Like the X-Men, the anime was like,

like Spider-Man X. It was like amazing. Then you got some movies, but now it's so tied in,

even Star Wars, a big Star Wars guy, but it's so, you can't even keep up with all of it. You

can't even watch all of it. Yeah. It's too expansive. And then they're all ties together. I thought

I was a fan before. I don't know shit about this. Yeah. Well, it shows different timelines. It's

crazy. No, it's crazy. It is. Star Wars got mailed in a long time ago. That's why I don't care

that I'm behind on everything. Hey, you want to see here, I want, I want oldest to newest.

This is scrolling. This is on the wow. It's an old studio. It's a network meeting. You

are probably at this meeting, Ben. Probably. Hold on a second. Let me see here. Let me see

how far back I go. Wow. This is six, this was 625 weeks ago. This is March 31, 2014. There I am.

There's Mike. I don't know. That's Joe Olive over there. It almost looks like me from behind.

You know, it's up down to tattoo there. Were you getting mounted? I was not. Wait.

He was getting back. He does not have a black belt. I was not getting mounted. No, yeah. I don't

I don't know. That's a long time ago network meeting. Holy shit. Well, there's so much more here.

Oh, you know, speaking of indomitable will. I want to do this. Yeah, the first one. Sorry. The

first one is exactly what I said. If you could pull that up, Frank. What is that? Hold on. Let me get

over the camera. There you go. What is that? That's your figures. That's your figures. It's

always. Oh, well, there's a grito and Bosque and of course, Bulba Fett and solo. That's my first

Instagram post. Are those the originals? Two hearts. Oh, yeah. 100%.

Aurora and I were sitting down today because she asked, I'm torn because she's going to be

six in September and I she's wildly intelligent. So I think she's able to actually grasp what's

going on in the world or in Star Wars because the whole thing is I want I want to have I want her

to have that. I want her to be shocked in Empire Strikes Back. Yeah. And I also I also want her to

really understand how incredible of an ending and a redemption arc. Return of the Jedi

and I don't want to just give all of that all of this lasers and stuff to her and like

have it all just go over her head so that you know, does it always hit one day when you realize how

I don't know, but I think she can handle it now. My son who's six when he had the what?

He had the he had the what moment in watching Empire. My daughter, she had the what moment. She's

11 now, but she was younger when she first watched. Like, hell, hell, we were having a dude night.

I was like, what do you want to watch? He's like, oh, that's watch return of the Jedi. I'm like,

okay. I'm falling asleep and he's not watching return of the Jedi. So I think they're, I mean,

it's obviously she has you as a dad. So she's well protected in that in that space. I think she

would be well received. Oh, yeah. Well, we just started watching a new hope. We took it like

like a little bit at a time. Yeah. So Alderan just got blown up and she went

and I say, I know Darth Vader. He's evil, isn't he? And she goes, wow. Yeah. You know, and so,

so that's the big thing there too. Why don't you fear Vader? You're like this guy

him and Tarkin and all that. They're they're going to they don't care, but I know.

Oh, you know, no, no, what I'm going to show her is, did you guys ever see scene? What

the hell was it? Um, did you ever see the guy? Who the hell did I think it was fix it in post?

Fix it in post. I think it was the benefits of AI scene 38. Star Wars scene 38. Reimagined.

Did you guys ever see that? This was AI Star Wars things are amazing. Well, this was this was

six years ago. I don't know how much of it was AI. I don't think much of it was. But

we're going to watch this on the flip side. Okay. It's six minutes long.

This is this is canon to me now. It has been for six years.

It's in the Death Star. It is a reimagined scene 38. It's the it's the fight between Obi-Wan and

Vader. Right. I think I have seen that. You see, but this is this is going to be a great

positive thing about using AI. Yeah. We can go back and actually improve the quality of a lot of

movies. I will I'm a big Game of Thrones fan and I will love for somebody to change the season

five, six and on. One to four. One to four. I take it. But after that, man, I wish

you could tell that they would they had some issues. I just felt like there was rush,

filming, it's casual. Exactly. It was rush, but it was still not that. It was rush because they

thought they were going to get a Star Wars trilogy handed to them and then they screwed up

Game of Thrones so much they lost the trilogy opportunity, probably. Have you seen the Skywalker

stories, Skywalkers on the score stories, underscore YT on Instagram? I think I have only seen

as much as what has been they are. It's unbelievable. They're videos. I haven't gone into the archive

just straight on, but I have seen bigger channels like Star Wars theory. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Review them. And it's it's unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, let's fans people. There is no

lack of originality. And that's what that like I say, I can't throw the baby out with the

bathwater because ultimately, I think the term artificial intelligence is a misnomer. And I think

that, you know, it's it's not human. And it's either you're never going to be able to give it

truly human qualities, but at the same time, there is going to be there's going to be uses for

that computer generated image tool. We've been watching CGI movies forever, you know, and there's

always people in in the room that are programming the dinosaurs and whatever. Now this is going to

make it a little bit more turnkey. It's going to allow your average Joe to be able to really just

master prompts instead of diagrams and just get it right. And I'm interested to see what ordinary

people, what kind of stories they can tell. I'm interested in that. Yeah. I don't I can't go full

doom with everything. Though I see that there is so much darkness that is building up around it.

I can't go full doom. Just like I can't go full light. Right. I use the term CGI my son the other

day. We're watching something. I was like, oh, CGI. And he's like, what's CGI? I was like, oh,

like that's a term that is probably antiquated at this point. It shouldn't be, right? But it is

computer generated. Right. But we replace that with AI. That's the it's like the word like

diet, right? Diet became like just the word you or now it's it's a organic. Everything's organic

organic. It's like, oh, these are organic gummy bears. It's like, how is that organic? So we

just replace the word CGI or anything that is computer generated. We just label it as AI AI AI

AI AI. It's just become the blanket terminology. It's like, you know, referring to a soda as a

coke, but it might be a peck. I'll have a coke, whatever it is, right? Or a Tylenol, right? We

just kind of give it this blanket title of AI. But yeah, I was I was I don't know what we were watching.

I was like, oh, it's a CGI. He's like, what's like what's CGI? I was like, oh my,

an antiquated term. Oh, well, he's not going to know what UFO is. Maybe will. It's going to be

they've tried to push everybody using UAP. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's like if you use UFO,

you're a conspiracy theorist. UAP. Is that is that an accurate? Yeah. The government uses UAP.

That's correct. And sometimes they mix them together and they say UFO and UAP as if they're

two different categories. Hey, it's so it's crazy, man. It's crazy. What they what they just do

a lot when they create an acronym, they create some sort. It's an appeal to some sort of authority

just in and of itself. Well, you have the power to create an acronym. Oh my gosh. There's power

doing names, right? Oh, yeah. We saw even recently how they changed back the, what was it?

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all the topic guys. I want to play this video, Indominable Will, Kentucky family rejects 26

million dollar offer to convert part of their farm into a data center despite the offer being

about 10 times the rate for the farm land in the area. Okay, here's a quote. If it's my way,

I'll stay and hold and I'll stay and hold and feed a nation. 26 million doesn't mean anything.

As long as I'm on this land, as long as it's feeding me, as long as it's taking care of me,

there's nothing that can destroy me if I've got this land. Take a listen to this. It's a really

incredible story. It's my way. I'll stay and hold and feed a nation. 26 million doesn't mean

anything. Some people might find it hard to understand how Delcia bearer can turn away

at 26 million dollar offer to buy some of her land until you spend a little time with her walking

a dirt road she grew up on and in the house her daddy built. My grandfather and great-grandfather

and a whole bunch of family has all lived here for years, paid taxes on it, fed a nation off of it,

even raised wheat through the depression and kept the bread lines up in the United States of America

when people didn't have anything else. Delcia is one of dozens of landowners approached by an

anonymous buyer, one of the major players in artificial intelligence, likely Google or Meta or

Amazon, to purchase their land. The market value for land in Mason County is about $6,000 an acre.

The realtor that came to her door last April offered her and her mother about 10 times that.

They call us old stupid farmers, you know, but we're not. We know whenever our food is disappearing,

our lands are disappearing and we don't have any water and poison. We know we've had it.

Delcia's mom, Aida Huddleston, is now 82 years old. She says she does not need the money or the hassle.

She was born on this land and she plans to die here and she certainly does not trust the promises made

by the AI companies or the people who want them to build here. So what do you say to the people

who are in town that say, Hey, this is going to bring jobs. This is going to bring economic prosperity.

I say there are a lot and a truth ain't in them. This is what I say. It's a scam.

For Delcia, scam or not, she says she's connected to her home like Scarlet O'Hara was in gone with the wind.

As long as she was attached to that land, her spirit never would die. That's that's the exact

same thing for me right here. As long as I'm on this land, as long as it's feeding me,

as long as it's taking care of me, there's nothing that can destroy me if I've got this land.

It's my way. I'll stay and hold and feed a nation. So what do you guys think about that?

I saw this video earlier today and obviously the initial response, like the human response is like,

are you crazy? How could you not? And then you watch the two speak and you're like, wow,

like there's something so endearing and so true about what they're saying. It's like the money

element, like the values that they're saying and talking about is so much bigger than the money.

And chances are good. They're going to get that land one way or the other. And she's 82.

So do you think that she dies? And then the door is like, I fuck this. I'm just on it.

I don't know. I think the daughter will hold it. I mean, somebody in the comments said,

here comes the fires or the flood or suicide note or she falls from the balcony or I pray for her

safety. It's one of those things where this is not just a matter like when she speaks dramatically,

she knows that she's up against something far bigger than anything. And it's a principle.

I get it. And there's a part of me that finds that to be so amazingly beautiful. And I'm just like,

yeah, that's what it's about right there. That's what it's about. And then the other part

is like, are you fucking crazy? I think the way I see it, I think there's two very valuable lessons

from there. One is that even though it doesn't seem like it, there's still something about like

owning property in America is somehow still respected. That a big company comes there with a

26-minute dollar offer and a old, simple farmer can say no because you own that property. I think

that's beautiful. It's great that we have a country where you can purchase your own platter land

and somehow you own it. You're the king on that piece of land and nobody can kick you out.

I love that. So there's that sense of like original values of America there. The other thing is a

quote from Bob Marley that comes to mind that says, some people are so poor that all they have

is money. And it's nice to see that there are some people that value something beyond just the

the money itself. She has everything she needs. She has her daughter with her. She has the beautiful

plot of land, you know, blue skies, green, green grass. And that's that's the life she wants to live.

Again, there's a lot of the comments are interesting because there's people from both sides saying

she doesn't value money. She has everything she needs. She's a true person to virtue. And she can

spit right in the face of these of these people. And then others are just like you dumbass. You

can take that money and buy a plot of land 10 times bigger somewhere else, which means they're

completely going over their head. But then the other ones who are so dumb, she's standing in

in the middle. I can't stand people who stand in the middle of progress like this. Think about

all of the of the opportunities, the jobs it's going to create for people that she's standing in

the middle. Like you think that an AI data say how many big corporate execs right now who have

been investing big time into AI are laying off people by the tens of thousands right now because

it's making administrative jobs, technical jobs, everything completely obsolete.

People think that there's actually going to be something. Why do you think people like Elon

Musk and others continue to preview a a world where nobody has to work anymore. That money just

shows credit shows up in your account every month. Nobody has to work anymore because the

computers, the AI is taking care of it. I mean, I don't know how anybody can ever think that,

you know, a family farm is going to get bought up by a big corporation. A data center is going to

go in and tens of thousands of people are going to get well paying jobs. Are you serious? You have

like three security guards please. Yeah, it's honestly a big question mark. We don't know the outcome,

right? It could generate some jobs, but there's also the possibility that just AI is going to

replace humans. Hey, oh, by the way, everybody, here's something AI can't give you. I remember

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Indomitable will there was a spirit. Now you want to see we were talking about before

physical with jujitsu, but this is something else that you're mounting. Well, here's one guy.

I don't know how well he can mount anybody, but did you hear? Did you hear about this story die

in Maryland? He's a quadruple amputee. Quadruple amputee who is now wanted for murder. He

he was driving a car with no arms, no legs. I've seen it happen. I know it's possible. You can

alter the car. Sure. And then he drew a gun and shot his passenger and and got into a passenger

and killed it. So he's very versatile with just his nubs. And that's not all.

More and more was learned about not always very proficient with a firearm, but he is a champion

corn holer. And I, okay, we found a we found a video of him last night handling a firearm,

but now I have been linked to a like a highlight reel of him as, you know, in a cornhole

championship, this is the guy he's now wanted for murder. And he's actually pretty damn nasty

despite not having hands or legs. Watch.

A couple out to the right. Condate and we'll ever take advantage of your back too. He's dropping

him. He's going to set up a field going for him. He's got a lot of room to work with just work

right down the middle. Look, hockey, huh? He's a little coffee.

So there you go. He obviously has a temper, though. Yeah, I read the article. He says

that after he shot the passenger, there were two other people in the back of the car. He asked

him to kind of like help him dump the body or something. Yeah, I don't know. And they ran,

they ran. They were, they ran. But what was the, do we know what the altercation was over?

I don't know. I didn't, I didn't see any, yeah, I didn't disclose it yet. I don't, I don't know,

that it is agreement and it became violent. Yeah. Yeah. He shot and everything he could have done

with his life. It's crazy. And now he's just going to be the guy with no arms and legs in prison.

The hell hell is that going to work out? You want to hear a positive story instead? Yes, please.

With a similar, I quadruple amp to amputee or, yeah, I met many years ago. A, a, a,

now famous American author called Kyle Maynard. You can look him up. His body resembles a little bit

the, the man you just showed them. He came to train with us. And through the, he came like a few

times, like, for two years, he'll show up and train. And he was in his 20s back then. And

obviously he had no arms and no legs, but he wanted to learn Jiu Jitsu. And he came to the academy

in the city and talking about resilience and, and dominant, who, and dominant about will.

Think somebody like him that he's born with this kind of like,

I don't want to send harsh, but kind of like physical limitations, right? And he trained with us.

And he was actually incredible. I know he also wrestled in high school. I think he wrestled

in college too. And if you see him, you see him, they're hiking. I think he hiked all the way

to Kilimanjaro. He went also to every, so I don't know much if he went all the way to the top,

but it says he's the the first quadruple amputee to ascend Kilimanjaro without aid of prosthetics.

There you go. Without the aid of prosthetics. What?

So talking about how your mindset determines the outcome of your life. And he's only 40.

He, yeah, yeah, it's close to our age. Imagine the cards that he was dealt and what he has achieved.

And I, many wasn't around. He was an inspiration. He was amazing.

Tell me a little bit. I mean, maybe we can get him on the show.

Maybe that'd be awesome to get him out to get him to call him to the show with you here or something.

I'm maybe. Yeah. I mean, I use it on Instagram. Maybe I can reach out. Yeah.

Well, but you, I mean, you said you trained with him for a long time. He trained with me. Yeah,

he'll come in and train. So how, how is that? How does that work? I mean, you need your hand.

I mean, that's, like, so how's he doing when he's rolling with obviously there's some limitations.

Boy, he, he moves. He uses his head too, which is actually good form in jujitsu.

And I saw, if you see his wrestling videos too, the little, obviously, we know where this

advantage is he has, but his advantage was that because both jujitsu and wrestling in competition

have weight classes, he will be a little bit heavier compared to the other person, if you know what I

mean, because the person has longer limbs. So he, if he got to certain position, he'll, he'll

pin him easier. And he also had one MMA fight that obviously he lost. Yeah. After they, he came

to the academy just a few times and you know, we're talked and trained, I start, you know,

falling in the, you know, the person and you, you see kind of like his life. And I saw him climb

climb a gyto when he posted it and he was, I was so happy for him. Yeah, it's, it's unbelievable.

Yeah, I love to, I love to talk to people like that. Those are the types of stories I just want to

get. Those are the only things really worthy of, I wanted to spend more time doing that stuff.

Really do. I'm seeing some of the video over here. Um, I guess he's talking about it on some,

let me see here. Hold on. He said I have to deal with right now and then I'm going to go ahead

and there's another three feet to go and deal with and another three feet. This is about,

I guess, going to Kilimanjaro. Hold on. Let me get, he's a great inspirational speaker. I

believe he makes most of his money as a, you know, being an inspirational speaker goes to

colleges, goes to groups and talks. Yes. He gives speeches. He's very, very eloquent.

Yes. Well, here's the end of, here's the end of his, his climb.

And all of a sudden, my guide, there you go, you see about an hour and 15 minutes later,

he told me to stop and look up and I'm 15 minutes away from the summit. A couple of minutes later,

I'm staying at the roof of South America with some of my best friends and it was an amazing moment.

For me, being born the way it was, it never would have changed. No matter how much I wanted to

go and change that, like it never would have changed, there's so many other things that could be

influenced. So many other areas that are going to be more resourceful to go and put my mindset.

I don't know what your disability is, what your challenges are, what your excuses are,

doesn't matter. There's never been an excuse that we've ever uttered that's gotten us any

closer to where we want to go with our lives. And it's not about taking on 50 things that

wants us about taking on. Maybe like one or two and how differently could you could all of our

lives here if we actually gotten actually didn't did something about that, but it's to find your

mountain, find your why, your truth. And realize after that, we could know our limits but never,

ever stop trying to break them. Did you see has a little bit of cauliflower years?

I had not, I had not little yet, but you're looking for stuff like that. So those little things,

you know, that is remarkable. I'm about to watch the rest of this and maybe I can,

that's awesome. I mean, you could probably ask your teacher, Igor, Igor Grace, he was there

those days. I'm sure he'll remember. Yeah. Wow. If I get this guy booked, I'll definitely hold

him for a Tuesday night or so when I can have you guys in here. Unbelievable. That would be awesome.

That really would. I'd love it. I got a voice mail over here, ladies and gentlemen,

just remember you can leave a voice mail, whatever it is, anything goes, but especially if it's

a topic that we've discussed, a topic we're going to discuss, if it's a little inside information,

a question for a guest, a question for me. I don't know a conspiracy theory about anything.

Go to speakpipe.com forward slash quite frankly, and it's just like calling in.

Here is a voice mail that was left from a 20 hours ago from Todd.

Problematic Todd on the west coast says he had a weird dream and Jeff Harman.

Our our astrologer friend, let's listen, this is a short one. He usually leaves a 90 second one.

This is only 40 seconds. Frank, this is problematic. Todd, I was just calling to tell you that

had a dream about you last night. It wasn't gay or anything. We were just talking and laughing.

I think we were sharing some kind of inside joke that seemed really funny in my dream.

And then we were in a plane. I have these dreams sometimes where I'm in a plane that's about to crash

or smashing to the side of a mountain or a bridge or something and it just swoops up at the last

second, really drops your belly right into your scrotum. I don't know what to make of it, Frank.

Maybe Jeff Harman can come on and make some sense of it. Probably has something to do with the stars.

I just wanted to let you know. I'm trying. I'm wondering if I'm missing a reference

or that really nothing. Well, yeah, I took a picture of it. I don't know if it's an inside

reference to something that's happened on the plane that swoops up at the last moment.

Maybe it is just a weird dream. I thought weird dreams like that.

I don't have you guys been dreaming anything strange lately or it's just all kind of like the last

dream that I vividly remember. And I think I stepped into another dimension if I'm being very

honest with you is I was on. You watch Stranger Things. Yes. You know when Ells

goes into the flow tank and then she's on the other side and she's just in the black

yeah, like water. I was standing there. Right. And I would just move. No, I was just standing

in that black building room. Yeah, exactly right. And I'm standing there and I'm looking and as I'm

looking, I'm seeing the green grid all around me. But I have to kind of move in a way that it

doesn't look like I'm looking around a wall, but there is no wall. It's all black and I kind of

like this. And then there's the grids everywhere. The wall at the wall, what would be the wall,

the ceiling, the floor turns into the grid. And I was like, wow, I've stepped into the other side

of things. And then I woke up. That was like probably and that was like maybe

caught four or five months ago. You know, I I think reason there's nothing there's there's no like

there's no sequences of events that have been happening in my dreams that are very what I believe

are are are consequential though the most inconsequential things could be an interesting

tale into how you're just subconsciously, you know, looping lately. But I it's been a feel you

know how you know how it's just sometimes even though you're not remembering the dream,

it's just like a familiar feeling from night to night. I recently I've been getting this where

I might be in a certain setting in a neighborhood setting, maybe on a on a on the my old college

campus or whatever. And I'm surrounded by familiars. I'm talking about people, not spirits. And

and it all I have this these lurking feelings. It's a mix of nostalgia and longing and dread.

Sometimes sometimes it's happy. But it's just it's it's almost like if I was like if I was

floating in a pool, the water would be maybe like a deep purple. You know, if I'm trying to

just give you things to make you visually see how I feel what I'm doing. And sometimes they

can be bizarre, whatever. But it's there's always a feeling that something is a miss. But at the same

time, everything's all right. Everything's all right. Everything's going to be okay. But something's

a miss. I don't know what the fuck. And again, like I said, subconsciously, you're just looping

because maybe some people out there are just having bang or dreams every night. I don't know if

is anybody out there having just awesome dreams like you're going to the discovery zone every night

and you're a kid again. And you're just jumping in the ball pit. Is anybody having like just like

party party dreams every night? I haven't had a I've had one of those in a while.

Do you remember your dreams often? I remember fragments. I remember fragments. Sometimes I sometimes

the more visited and other whenever I really get my my talons into a dream and I remember it

and I wake up from it. I reach for the phone or a pen and a paper and I start writing for you.

I write myself an email and it has become the subject matter of God knows how many. I always

love bringing my weird prophetic dreams to the show. I remember my dreams a lot. You do?

Yeah. And I have some recurring dreams from time to time. Have you ever found that they have given

you keen, almost paranormal insight into things or is it more so just like a chance to self-reflect on

what the hell you're just focusing on? Most of my dreams obviously don't make sense to just like

a collection of scenes that you jump around you can make sense of it. But occasionally I have

you have I have dreams that make sense that there's a logic to a beginning and the end.

And some of those dreams are more sort of like if I'm in a different reality. I kind of like

like if my obviously this is reality when I can touch the pen. Yeah. The death, the microphone

is in front of me feels real but sometimes in the other dreams I'm in an alternate reality.

And it feels like kind of like my consciousness had just shifted frequency to some other world

and this and that's that world is real for me in that specific point of time while I'm sleeping.

And then I wake up and I shift back consciousness to this. Do you think that that's an actual

journey that you're on? Do you think that's an actual thing that's taking place or do you think it's just

mushmash? I mean, it could be just like an illusion that my brain creates but it could be also

a possibility. It's not too far-fetched. I'm not the only one that says it. I don't know

feeling in those dreams where like there's a feeling to life. And then even the dream I was

describing, there was a feeling there that was real. And yes, I know you're going up like,

oh, the dream felt so real but there's sometimes there's feelings to dreams that do make you feel

like you've stepped into an alternate timeline. And although there's some like, you know, choppy ends

to it. It still kind of makes sense in this weird way. Right. Do you know Philip Kedick?

Yes. The all-ter American altar from the 60s, the 70s that brought the stories that little were

adapted into Blade Runner, for example, a minority report. He has a very famous interview

while he went to Paris to promote one of his books, to France, to promote one of his books

where he had this amazing, I don't know, like vision. Like during the day, he just skipped to

another reality. And he goes to present this book and instead he goes on for an hour lecturing

the French press about how the world that we live in is not the only world that we live in

in multiverse. And he's talking about this and this might have been, I don't know, 78 or something

like this. He was so ahead of his stuff. So he's going on this press junket for his book.

And he has this experience prior to this press junket, probably the days before. So when he's

there, where like quantum leap, he quantum leap for a few hours or whatever in this other reality.

And so when he's there, he had this, he described what happened there. Yeah, he describes it

can go in detail. But like, yeah, so and he says, guys, I swear, this is not just the only reality

there is. I live this sort of reality. I believe that. And so on. And it was a sober experience.

As he described it to the press, yes. Well, as I dug different looked into it, he had,

he had some habit of using heroin and stuff like this. And I might be induced to that. Yeah,

just some light dabble of, dabble of light stuff. Sometimes I partake. I had the month

senior for my church on my podcast. And we was a very deep dive. And then we got to the end.

And we're talking about, you know, essentially what I said to him was like,

so Jesus operating the quantum field. He's like, yeah, basically, I'm like, oh, I had that as

a whole new layer. Oh, totally. I was, where do I have that? Let me see if I still have that

down. Do you know any quantum physicists? Do I really want to sit down with one, give anybody

they could, I mean, we could talk about this off here. I'm just thinking out loud right now.

It's the quantum physicists. No, I know some astrophysicists. And what's why? I love, I love people

of it. I don't know. I can't ask to fit. Well, I may be, maybe I have that conversation.

Maybe. I love the part of it. I love the answer to the question because the quantum aspect

is theoretical. And maybe I'm not a science person. Right. So maybe that is that does.

I left out of like admiration of the fact that you can answer that with, I know, some astrophysicists

for now. Most people, most people will be like, how would I know? Yes, exactly.

I got the craic. Absolutely. I got an astrophysicist. Yes, you know, you want, I call my buddy Max.

I can call my buddy Max right now. Right. That's what I love about. I find that that's

such a powerful thing. Yeah. The other thing here too is everybody, I have met some incredible

people through this audience. Yeah. There are so many people out there who have very specialised

sensitive jobs, point things that they're retired from, whatever. And I get some great insight

from people. And every once in a while, they happen to be watching live and they get through.

And I'm, you know, my dream is to, to be able to get this to a point where any night,

I can pull a topic out of the hat and know that without any real prep, I am just going to be

inundated with calls from people who are either going to make my eyes roll or blow my mind.

And that right there, that kind of just like Russian roulette, your radio format is just awesome

to me. And I know that there's, there's people out there who can make it happen, but we just need

a little bit more momentum. We're going to get there. Here's something for my buddy. Yeah,

please. So it's from my friend. He was, he's a priest as well. Father Tom, he died. And this

was actually a few months before he died. We were talking about Arnold Swartz and Ager's

hang-ups about death and about how he was very uncomfortable about, you know, what, what comes

beyond life here on earth. And, you know, he's from these very specific clips of media. He's

sounded very nihilistic. But anyway, it's spurred a, it opened up a conversation on this show about

whether or not heaven has locality. You know, where, like, where can you plot a destination to it?

Is it, you know, a turn of a knob on a, on some sort of a stargate? Can you, is it another

dimension? But, you know, when people say the spirit world, what are we talking about? How do you

get there? But he said this, as for heaven, I do not believe, because I keep his old texts here

alive, even though I, even though I saved them on files as well. As for heaven, I do not believe

it is a physical locality at the present time. That will change with the general resurrection.

In the creed, we profess that God created all things visible, earth, and invisible heaven.

St. Augustine wrote that the invisible does not refer to a place, but to the heavenly creatures

angels. The account of the ascension from Acts says Jesus was lifted up on a cloud. The letter to

the Hebrew speaks of Jesus passing through a veil into the heavenly tabernacle. I'm sure there's

another passage I'm forgetting. I think it's in one of Peter's letters, but that leans toward

this idea of Jesus passing into what we would call another dimension. John's visions and revelation

could be interpreted either way, I think. The resurrection accounts where Jesus is constantly appearing

and disappearing and passing through walls makes me think we're dealing with some kind of interdimensional

travel. Fulton Sheen thought that Jesus passed into another dimension as well.

And yeah, he goes on a little bit more, but I think that's most germane to the topic here.

How important are these people in your lives? Like the two of you, right? And I, and that

because here's your my company, but the two of you, or like the people that you have that you

could have these conversations like we do a, or we do a Bible think tank. I've become very

friendly with pastor Andy who facilitates these things. And the fact that we could wrestle with

our thoughts in a container or with somebody that you could throw something out there. And I left

about, you know, the astrophysic, but like how important are these people? Like I've gained such

value out of these relationships that I've cultivated through deep meaningful conversation. And

whether it be just a guy walks in and says like I'm here for a men's group or deeper conversations

about like operating quantum physics or whatever, whatever it may be. The fact that you have that

conversation with the priest, it opens up such an opportunity to share that first off, right?

Because it takes us out of this construct of what religion is. And it opens up such an opportunity

for people to now enter into this new conversation in a whole different light. I don't know if any of

that made sense. It felt compelled to share that. It made, and I actually think even if you said

that unfortunately this gentleman passed away. Yeah, he died. So on top of that, how important day

you have that conversation from that point in time in your life. And I wonder sometimes if there's

a meaning to it because everything has a sort of like a finality, finality in life that you meet

some kind of people at a certain point in your life and people age and pass away. And sometimes

I wish I had some of these people now, but they're not there, but it gives it even more meaning,

more importance because they can't answer the questions now anymore. So you have to do the work

yourself. You cannot rely on their answers, lean on their shoulder. But somehow you were blessed

for them to be part of your path when you were younger. And you have now this spark that makes you

grow. It's interesting. It is. And it doesn't matter where it comes from because I, for example,

Father Tom, and I actually went and I did even more than that. I know he had a YouTube account

where he was doing a little podcast. He let talk about the Yankees. He like talking. He just he

everything but really. Everything but religion with Father Tom. God bless. He loved getting into

that stuff too, but he also just wanted to just share his interests through. I made sure I

downloaded his entire YouTube account amazing and and kept that on a on a on a file. But I

I met Father Tom through an audience member in this in this this audio. Okay. So this audience,

my buddy Benny out there, he had watched this show for a while. And just by the way that I

talk about my life around here in Westchester, he he came to the conclusion, I must be near

the the the parish that his his friend, Father Tom and also Father Pat were working at over here,

Father Pat being the pastor. So he he actually facilitated this introduction. And you know,

I just got to know Father Tom a little bit more. And he was the one that helped me set up

Aurora's baptism. So we got Aurora baptized. And and then Father Tom died. And because and and

I was just about to and I went to my first confession in nearly 20 years to Father Tom. It was on

it was on Holy Saturday, 2023. And I was that I went there. I said, okay, I'm going to confession

for the first time since high school, right. And on Easter Sunday, 2023, I'm going to receive

communion for the first time. And it was then that Father Tom told me that you know, we have to talk

about your wedding, your marriage. Because of course, you know, Lauren, we weren't we weren't

married in the church and all that stuff. I really want I really like what love getting into the

the mechanics of the whole thing. Sure. You know, because you know, there's ritual. But then

there's also like you saw it said before with the the the text messages. There's there's so so many

open doors for interesting conversation and theory. Sure. And I like that. I like all that stuff.

But he's the one that got the ball rolling for Lauren and I to get married in the church so that I

can start really, you know, taking part in the sacraments again. And he died before that can happen.

And that's when Father Pat showed up and said, I'm I want to complete what Father Tom told me he

was working on with you. And that was just and it was at that point. I never thought that this

would happen to me in 2023. But a portion of this show ended up in Father Tom's eulogy in front of

a pack church down the street. I had it. I had it real because it was just so you want to talk

about surreal and how things like I wouldn't have never thought I would have, you know,

priest friends. Let her let her even go back to church again. Right. And it was I don't know. Yeah,

to call on people is interesting. But beyond faith and spirituality to call on anybody is if you

can pick up friends peers or anybody that that can be standing in as a mentor, we are we are so far

beyond the time when it was it was common for everybody to to be somebody's protege to to to

to be taken on as an apprentice or something like that to have someone to say that's a mentor of

mine. That's a role model of mine. And when you don't have that, then you really need to take a

conscious effort to study the people who have what you want, read books and be studious and go

out there and apply it, you know, essentially on your own. But if you can surround yourself,

you can just meet people and you find, oh, man, I love have a conversation with this person

by one thing or now, that's what I really I love that it's almost like you're picking up little

mentors or you're building a lifelong mastermind where if I got a question about this, I'm going

to them, even if they can just give me something to read. Amazing. You know, amazing. I couldn't

agree anymore. We're just we're forming masterminds. That's what who the hell said that Napoleon Hill?

Who was it? Carnegie? Who was the one that thinking grow rich? Well, yeah, Dale Carnegie.

Or is that Dale Carnegie? I think it was Napoleon Hill. Miniple in Hill. Yeah,

yeah. Carnegie was how to make how to win friends influence people. Yeah, something like that.

No, wait, that's what's one of my favorite books too. It's masterminds. I don't remember.

To know to start knowing people who are you going? Good at what they do. And then you just you

bring them in to be part of a team. And yeah, and the whole thing can grow rich, right? Yeah,

what about what about how to win friends influence people? That's definitely Carnegie. Yeah,

that is Dale Carnegie. And then what was it? Wallis Wattles? Who was it? Was it Wallace Wattles?

He was he was the he was another one that was very big in like, you know, manifestation.

Because that's essentially what you're talking about, manifestation. And I think it's just so

important to have these people to wrestle these thoughts with. I mean, like, because you live in

this vacuum of your own, you know, confirmation bias. And you know, whether it be a priest who

I, you know, the mon senior at the church who I've become, I mean, you know, did the podcast,

we have conversations, you know, Andy, who's who's a pastor at a more Christian based church.

These are people or I had coffee with a group of mentors today. And I was just talking to him and

saying, yeah, this is what I'm going through this. And it just gives you this opportunity to see blind

spots to understand, okay, like, am I thinking of this with the lens that's accurate? Is it,

is it delusional? Is it, am I, is my feeling with this aligned? And I think this is something that,

I mean, spot on. So you said it beautifully there. It says, you're creating these, these people

that it's a give and take relationship. And as you step into more of a mentor role with people,

it becomes this active service that it totally makes sense that I would do something like this

for another human being, offer them something that I've gone through to give them a little bit of

levity to life and a little bit of life experience to say, all right, maybe you could shift this way or

that way. That's, that's the most gratifying thing about, for me, my entire life, putting together

really good party. Like if I'm hosting parties over here at the studio, you got, I don't think you've

been to a party here. But you've been to several Christmas parties. He's been to two, at least two

Christmas parties, a jamboree VIP night, or even if it's just the, whatever the hell it is,

I get most satisfaction sitting, you know, standing back, observing a room and just seeing

pockets of conversation going on with people who before that night had never spoken to each other.

And I'm just, I'm introducing people. If somebody has, you know, I have a lot of people come to me

and say, Frank, you know, I got an issue here. Very rarely do I have an answer for somebody,

but I know somebody they can talk to. And that's, that's everything. And I, and I think that's,

where do you think that comes from for you? Honestly, at first, it's just practical.

It's just one of those practical things. And then I started realizing that this is

part of such a, I don't, maybe I'm not going to be able to articulate it right, but it's a

practical way of, of operating. And then on the other hand, there is, there's so many other

intangible benefits to actually plugging humanity. Like, think about neural networks.

Yeah. Think about how, you know, you ever see a, like a neuron, like reach out and grand form

a new pathway to connect brain and, and, and muscle and all that stuff. You see these things

just kind of reach out and form a huge sprawling net of nerves that can now communicate over

what was once no man's land. You know, and I, I just feel like over time, I realized that

these, these points start connecting and people, I mean, I, I have, I have had friends

hook up and like, like, for example, my friend Stephanie, my friend Stephanie, we met.

She was like a, she was hanging out on, in our streams in like 2007 when we first found

you stream. Okay. She was in New Jersey. And she, I forgot that what the hell was. She had

her own channel on you stream. And she, she found us doing this at all the thing. And we became

friends. That was 2007. And we've, we've stayed friends forever. And it wasn't, we didn't meet until

about maybe 2014, 15, 16 or something like that. She came and she was passing through town. She

she met me and Lauren. And, and then, you know, finally, we got her to come out to a set the

charge show. And, and we were playing with this other band. I introduced her to the other band,

immediately fell in love with the singer who's another good friend of ours that we would have.

And all of a sudden, this girl from the internet that we had known for 20 years is still to this day

that I had not met until I maybe like 17 years into the, the friendship is now, you know, hanging

out with my buddy who I, you know, in the flash, they're living together. They're definitely

meant for each other. And little things like that happen, impossible, like hookup,

impossible hookup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I can tell you 10,000 of those situations. Now,

I'm not a, I will never play matchmaker. Things just happen. I've only tried to match make people

once. And it was the worst thing. I will never hook a man and a woman up together again. Okay.

If it happens, then it happens. I'll just put people in a room. You do the damage yourself.

But I think, and I think it even has to be the extent of matchmaking or relationships. But just

the sheer fact that people can connect in this really unique, yet really primitive way of just me,

like I have people that I've met through whatever coaching programs or meant or, or, or, or cohorts

have been a part of that I've never met in real life. That like a buddy of mine. He's a therapist

on Colorado, Mikey Brackett. And like, I've never met him. But he's like, I consider him a friend

and a buddy, right? Like I'm bringing him up in this conversation. So it's amazing that you can

meet with people. And you don't have to actually have a 3D tangible experience with them. And it's

this weird, they were talking about AI in one regard of that. But then there's another part of it

that's kind of similar to that. I've never met the person. He could be a, it could be an AI bot.

I know he's not, right? Like Albert saying, Alberto, when you're saying about how, you know,

something's happened to the internet. You always need to have your guard up on the, there's never

a time you didn't have to have your guard up on the internet. You're meeting somebody on the internet.

You got to be very careful about what you're divulging that you have to go through several more

layers of ascertaining a person's true identity and their true intentions before you can actually

become friends. But the internet is far easier and was definitely a place where people formed

lasting connections like what you're talking about there. And because of AI, that is being challenged,

that is being challenged and indicated in a long way. Because I mean, it's just, it's hard to even

have a conversation with somebody in the comments section even. The people are like, we're talking

about mental offloading. People are offloading basic interactions in comments sections to LLM's.

It's, it's nuts. But I understand Benny's point. I mean, I think it's due to the fact that

the technology is so good. You know, before if you wanted to have any sort of meaningful

interaction before technology existed, you had to do it face to face. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But now, first with the phone, then with, you know, like Skype and now, what's happened? It's

kind of stuff. You could, I mean, that's, that's the information is exchanged. You form a bond

even though the person is not there. I mean, that is still a high connection. I work with people

that are in China or in Pakistan. I never met. But somehow we work together, you know, they make

my clothing and this kind of stuff. We make money together. My God. And crazy. But back in the day,

I would have probably have to go on a boat, sail to China and make a deal. Yeah. Get a camel,

silk road. I don't have to do it anymore. Bring a translator that you trust. But somehow it's

real. The connection is there. We, we have a business together. So yeah, it's the technology.

The technology now allows you this great connections at a distance. But information is shared.

So the, the connection is real. It's not a thick one. The friendship is a real friendship.

Yeah. Of course. Yeah. So yeah, that's, I say, it's practical at first and you're making friends

and it's good to know people. But then you just start realizing you're building something so

much more intangible. And, and, and, and you get to really, you get to cash in on that at Christmas

time when you have a, a room full of people that at least every year that they get together,

they see each other maybe just once a year, they're more and more familiar with each other because

they, they met last Christmas if they hadn't had already carried on a relationship elsewhere.

I don't know. It's just like, what the hell are we doing here? If we're not, if we're not meeting

other people that are living on this planet in the short time that we're here, I mean, damn.

Yeah. You know, your parties are amazing. Everybody that comes is so interesting. I agree.

Tons of great conversations. And yeah, it's just such a friendly environment too.

It's great for great parties. You and the wife have got to come. I know. You have to. I invite you

every year. You do. I give you a, I feel like we've crossed a threshold of hang sessions now. We're

before like we're in a new, we're in a new relationship now. We're on a new level. We're on a

monthly basis. I love it. I know. It's, it's nuts. Okay. 20 years in the making, but we're here.

We've arrived. Yeah. So that's, that's, oh, and the Wallace waddles. I think that was the other one.

He wrote a lot of those kind of manifestation types books and the, what I got, let me see if I got

the right guy. Wallace D waddles. The science of getting rich or something like that. And he was

another one that I think he wrote about the power of actually physically writing down things,

especially when it comes to dreams or plans or what you, you know, purpose, all that stuff,

that the furt because, and it's specifically, specifically about writing and script,

because really, because you're talking about like hundreds, if not thousands of micro movements

with every curve, it's, you know, when we're writing in print, it's just like, you're just going

linearly all over the place. But because of the curves and the, and just the flow of it all,

that there's so, first of all, so much more mental, mental attention that is brought to the,

the tip of the pen and there's so much more power there. And then when you are actually using that

power to manifest on the paper, what you want to experience, what you want to build and acting

as if you already have it. And of course, you know, if you're a Christian, you realize that,

you know, that you can, that so much of, you know, the, your faith can be put proactively into that.

And I, you know, Jesus is like a, aside from being God, an alchemist, no doubt about it.

And all of the, all the powers of intention stuff is right there in the Bible as well.

As far as faith, having no fear, asking and receiving, you know, and of course,

being clean and intention and all that stuff, it's all there. But as far as the science behind it,

what Wallace said is because you're putting it on paper and because of the mode of writing it,

the intricacies of script, it is the first major act of manifestation because you're taking it

from your mind, receiving it from the ether, whatever the hell it is. And it's the first act of

making it physical because now it's on paper on ink. And it's at the very least, very symbolic,

ritual to go through when you're trying to craft something new. Sure. So there was another

tanker in the 20th, 21st, 20th century. He's from New York, Norman Vincent Peel. Have you ever heard of

him? I think so. He's a name I know. He's, uh, he's amazing. He, he's a passed away in the early

90s. He was very famous in 50, 60, 70s. He was the head clergyman at the marble church on Fifth

Avenue. Yeah. And he was this kind of like, he invented a positive thinking movement. The power

of positive thinking. I'm looking at it right now. That if you know, yeah. And he wrote a lot of

books about it or how, if you really think, whatever you think manifest. And it wasn't so, he

wasn't like a snake oil salesman. He really elaborates it in the book in a very, um, positive way.

In a very interesting way. How like, even the fact that you think positive thoughts, you act

benevolent benevolent with the people around you. So they respond to that positivity in a positive

way. But if you put negativity in the world, people will respond negatively to it. So you,

you build like your thoughts build the world around you. It's interesting. It was very innovative

when he wrote the books. Yeah. I mean, now it's every Instagram post that you can come across.

But he's the one that came up with it. Right, right. Which is, I mean, if you're going to get,

if you're going to get something, get it from the origin source, and then be able to interpret it

in your own ways, right? Um, but you're right. In the sense that what you put out in it, it, it, it,

it does have this weird way of circling back to some degree. But also, I think that the interesting

part of is when that circle back comes in a very appropriate, needed, timely manner, right? Like,

even like the text message that you have, right? They're saying, oh, yeah, I have his text messages.

Like the fact that that came up in conversation now plugs into a new story and a new neurological

pathway for a listener, for one of us, whatever it is, that that man lives on in this new trajectory,

right? Like my, my kids say, like, oh, I'm so upset. I never got to meet your grandmother,

grandma Ross, right? And like, you have, like, you've met her in the way I operate, the way your,

your grandmother operates, the way your might, your aunt operates, the way you look, we show up in

the world, some of our traditions, things we talk about, food we eat, right? So there's things,

you know, a mayo and olive sandwich on bread, right? Like, is something I learned from my grandmother

that I'll give my kid, right? So it's like, they may not live in the present 3D space, but they live

on in these new ways. And then they circle back in this circumvented yet very timely and

appropriate way that's reassuring of your trajectory. I don't know if that makes sense. It does.

Absolutely does. And it's just, and you have to create space for that too, right? Because if you're

bound up and tied to outcomes or the 3Dness of this world, you don't have the, the container to

receive that. You're two, you're too clouded. Well, it, it brings me to my, my current challenge,

which I just love so much. I've described myself as like my family and my circle of friends,

like chief archivist. In a very unique way, everything has been on tape, whether it's been in

streams. I mean, I just last night for the flip side, I went live with everybody after the

end credits went up. And I said, okay, guys, give me a, give me a month and a day,

sometime between 2010 and 2015. And people are just saying, you know, May 2013, June of that year,

whatever the hell it was, they're getting, they're giving specific dates. And if I can't give

them the specific date, then I have at least a two hour episode of us sitting there at the studio

doing a show. It's not that day, then it was the day afterwards because we were live Tuesdays and

Thursdays. It's between that, all the family videos, all of this shows history. And I'm realizing

that there, I don't know, this, this can't just be, what do we do with all this information?

It's a lot for one person to process, but there's got to be some value in this for, for other people,

as well as something I can just, I don't know, I feel like maybe I'm just building a sand castle.

And one day it all get wiped away when somebody turns off the internet forever. Who the hell knows?

But as far as purpose goes, I mean, listen, ants, how many ant hills have we kicked over when we

are kids? And the next morning, it's right back. They're like, oh, those motherfucking giants killed us,

wiped all of our, wiped our village out again. And the next morning, the ant hills back.

I mean, they had every reason to give up, but they are just, that's their purpose.

They go right back at it. You know, and that's the, you can call it the warrior's folly if you want.

And that's just really where we're at. It's just fine. If you, if you, you lay into that,

then I don't know, I think the blocks fall in the place eventually, even if it feels like you're,

you're playing in the dark from time to time. Let's get them, let's get a couple of super chats in

because we're just about done. And I want to show you guys that, that scene on the, on the flip side.

I don't know how you haven't done Jiu-Jitsu yet. That's the real question. Like me?

Yeah, when I'm wrong, I don't know. I just had a schedule conflict.

Yeah, no, I get that. But I'm just saying, yes, I have to go through the internet.

No, but I'm just saying you'd love it. Well, you know, I'm a, I'm a little claustrophobic,

so that might help me. I'm always laying on my face or

I'm actually happy. I got your brother to come training a few times.

Oh, he came a few times? Yeah, yeah. He's actually good. He got some skills.

He's a good guy. He's talented. Yes, he just has to stick to it.

I'm glad to hear Anthony, you know, once he started working out, he was a late bloomer,

but once he started working out, he never stopped. And I'm happy about that. We used to call him

Bonesy. Yeah, I remember he sent me a picture of like a before and after at one point. I was like,

Oh, dude, like you put on some muscle. It's great. Yeah. Well, we also, we also had like a puffy

phase too. Anthony was actually chubby around 2010 or so, because that's when we were hanging out

the studio and we were eating like, like it was Super Bowl Sunday, every Sunday. We just did

damage to ourselves. And Anthony did the Hollywood diet. You remember that the Hollywood diet?

It was, it's like, it's like lemon juice and cayenne pepper. It's all you have for 10 days.

It actually jumped start. He lost a lot of weight over that 10 days. And he stopped it. He never

did it again. But then from there on, I think he just started working out in one form and never

never never stopped. And I said, good for him. It's good to, you can't just, you can't just be a

roly-poly for your whole life. Okay. So a JPRIT says enjoying the discussion with Vinnie and Alberto.

AI paid me to say this by the way. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Vinnie's the entrepreneur here. He said I was thinking how much I like that. Oh, he's going to

rent rent a human diet. That's it. Road trip 70 says I put, put, put a homeless chick in a seat

in seat four. Maybe one of you gets a date. Let's see four. Oh, this one over here.

We're talking about this the other night. Just tell me yes or no or whatever short answer.

Is it not true? I'm positing that it is. That if you, that a homeless woman

is 10 times more likely to get a date from an employed man than a 10 times at least 100 times.

100 times than a homeless man. No, I'm not talking like I said, not cardboard homeless.

Just down on your luck. You're not crack-addled. Okay. But a homeless man down on his

lock would not get a whole person's a pretty woman. But you're telling me what he would mean

millions of dollars. He would not. He would never get a date though. Zero. Zero. But the homeless woman

would be a stud of a human being. Zero. And the homeless woman would pick up Richard gear.

She has. That's true. Yes. Okay. 100%. 100. You know people that did that. Yeah.

Listen, I saw this heart. You know those, you know what the hell they're called? They're called

the chat comment songs. I don't know this. Well, it's AI. It's funny. This is funny use of AI.

And like I said, you put it into the hands of the internet and people are just going to do funny

things. But they'll take something and they'll go into the chat comment. They'll load up all the

hilarious chat comments and they'll allow AI to create a song about it. And I saw this one,

this one song. There was a homeless girl. I mean, she was sleeping on the street who knows

what her issue was. But her back was turned to the guy who was like taking note of her sleeping

there. And you know, it popped up on Instagram. So I noticed it. It's I said, oh man, this

homeless chick's got a fatty. She's she's laying there on her side. But she's got a big ass.

Right. I know people in the comments are going after this girl's ass. And even though it's just the

most, it's in she's home. Leave her alone. Right. Right. But I know, but you know, it's a first

like, I know what the comment section is going to be. Right. Of course. Yeah. I got it. You're

upset with yourself for knowing what the comment section is going to be. Right. Right. Right.

Well, these things are turned into I got to show it to you. Maybe. Okay. I'm going to flip side.

All right. I don't know what the hell is going with that. Anyway, let me see here. The dude from

1965 says Frank is the tops. Don't tell me. Let me see here. To use some other method. Frank,

don't tell me Nikki to use some other method. Frank have Frank run a search. Wait. What was this?

I've sent Frank. What I don't know what that what's that about.

But maybe what was Nikki saying if it's a large super chat, it's better to send somewhere else.

So it's not I mean, if that's what it is, I don't know. This seems vague. I wasn't there for that.

But yeah. Hey, I'm I'm thank you so much for the support. But it looks like I kind of like walked

in in the middle of a conversation there. The fuck you're saying. I just kind of I know. It's

right. Okay. I'm just backing. Yeah. Sound like it was having a stroke. I'm just backing

out of the room. Thank you. Slowly. Thank you, Dan. Okay. You're going to. I'm going to leave now.

Yes. Mark Carnivores says Megan got me bringing bringing love trapped. Great show last night. Thank

you. Yeah. Megan Megan Fox is fantastic. I love it. She's on. She'll be on again in April.

And the rest. Well, we've got plenty. JR rat at the lake. Homeboy. Hello. Are you? Let's see

here. Vesper. JR again. Corey. J safety net 820. CB Joey. Scott 17. This is all on Pilled

Delona with a whole sleeve of cookies. And that's it for tonight. Fellas, I'm going to take with you

to take you to the opposite side of the end credits to have a little bit more fun until the lights go

off over here. What a downworld upside down world. What would you like to leave everybody with

because you're all this was just so I can't wait to do this again. This is the best time ever.

And we're getting better and better as we. Yeah. Go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

I want to hear what you say. Let's I got to. I'm better at these things.

Both of you, by the way, both of your Instagram's are your Instagram tags are in the description

of the episode. So I hope people find you both on Instagram. That's where you're the most

active. So I just put that there. See, perfect. You just did it for me. Yeah. Over an Instagram

just follow that at Gora Westchester. Gora underscore Westchester. That's the. See,

I have a title for it now. It's a men's social wellness club. I love it. Thank you. It's very good.

It's very it was it took a long time to get the AI. No, actually wasn't go figure. It was not AI.

But I did have to check with it. I make sure it was accurate. So yeah,

a Gora social club, a Gora underscore Westchester, a Gora social club. We're raising capital right now

to open a flagship location with Council of dudes podcast, which you'll be on very soon.

And obviously, Frank love to have you back on. And yeah, mainly over on Instagram.

From my side, it's just great to be here again in such great company. If anybody wants to

get in touch with me, Alberto, Manto, BGJ, and I'll come up Alberto, Manto, BGJ on Instagram. And

I tried to get back to everyone that sends me a DM. Yeah, I don't know. I want to hear from you guys

show me a DM. Let's talk. Let's be friends. Please, please do it. Not only are they both great to

follow. They create wonderful content. And Vinnie is a broadcaster at heart, just like me. I think

that you'd really just get into everything that he does. And also just a very noble cause,

which I know is the future for for you, Vin. And that is, of course, the men's clubs.

And that is very, very, very important for rebuilding our psyche as a nation. And of course,

as, as men, we've been put through the ringer the last couple of decades. Alberto, on the

other hand, it's just get cut from the same cloth with the, the Jiu-Jitsu, with the wonderful

outlook, very, very outward with people and extroverted and awesome jobs that you do with your

your clothing line. So I hope the Anthony rocks your jacket all over the place. Thank you.

And I got to tell you, man, I wore your shirt the other day, but Anthony's jacket is

dare I say fly. I, Franca, get the new look. I love it. You know, I love the, I'm a big fan of your gear

before I even knew you. I was like, oh, I have a t-shirt. I have your artwork. I have this

type of that. And you're like, I was like, oh, they even always meet me tonight. So I got a

second tattoo. Absolutely. Amazing. He's got, he's got this yellow yellow and blue dragon. Well,

what is it? Yeah, we do one of our specialties. We do a lot of like reversible bomber jackets,

varsity jackets for a lot of like heavy metal bands and rock stars. So we did one for Matthew

teachy hippie for a from a tribune. We're working right now on a new one for mega death that's coming

out soon. And it's kind of similar to the one that we're talking about it. Yeah, it's very kind

of like a little bit more subtle on the outside, but you can reverse it in and rock it, you know.

Yeah, he's been wearing it everywhere. It looks great on him. Antis such a great brand ambassador.

I'm lucky that he's my friend. Yeah, he's hanging out there in Florida for the next week.

Or the next four or five days or something. I think he's going to cross math with what Matt

Hippie from Tribune. So the, you know, there you go. Keep it. Keep it.

And those those fibers that connect it all are amazing. Crazy. And I still haven't met him yet.

You know, you think about all the fibers that Anthony needs to do a little bit more fiber

connected. Okay. Yes. We have to get Matt Hippie from Tribune on the podcast. He's an interesting

guy to his very world travel, you know, with rock story. He has, he has a lot of stories to share

if he can share. If you can. Well, listen, I just put the link in the chat room everybody.

Come to the flip side. I have an awesome thing. And hopefully a hilarious thing to show you.

If you can't find the link, just go quite frankly.tv and press play because piled is right there.

But I just dropped it in there. Come on over. It's going to be a lot of good times. And

and that's that. I'll see you guys tomorrow night. It's going to be good. I think Charlie Robinson

is calling in tomorrow night. So that'll be a lot of fun. We'll talk about Palantir and how AI

is actually running battlefields right now. Holy shit. You want to talk about SkyNet? We are

dangerally dangerously close. Anyway, that's for tomorrow. See you guys on the flip side. Click

that link. Come on over. You're going to love it. Shit. Not right. There you go. I'll

get you on the flip side. Ah, everybody. Quite frankly, this film before a live studio audience all

over the world. Remember, thank you so much to my wonderful friends at Verso. It is truly a

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you guys have been fantastic, but it's not over yet. Come to the flip side. The link is in the chat

and see you tomorrow.

Yes, yes. Take care of yourself, baby. By the way, I've faked it before I got it.

Will you shut up?