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What's up everyone and welcome to another episode
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of the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're gonna begin taking a look
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at the Tova Noelle deposition that she gave
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to the OIG investigators as part of the investigation
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into the death of Jeffrey Epstein.
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So we're gonna skip over all of the swearing in
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and all of that and we're just gonna dive in.
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So once again, the person asking questions
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has his name redacted and Tova Noelle's lawyer
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So when Mr. Foy interjects and you hear me say Foy,
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that's what I'm talking about.
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And she also has a second attorney with her,
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So when either of them object,
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I'll make sure to note that as we're making our way
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And the final person that's involved in this
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is Miss Greg, who is part of the union, I believe,
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for the corrections officer, Tova Noelle.
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Redacted, thank you everyone.
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Miss Noelle, you're here today.
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As a subject in this DOJ OIG investigation,
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this DOJ OIG investigation concerns your illegitimate conduct
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to include allegations of false statements,
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job performance failure, security failure,
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and reporting false information.
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This is an official DOJ OIG investigation
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and you're being asked to voluntarily provide answers
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Will you agree to voluntarily interview
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Question, all right, great.
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And then everybody that does voluntary interviews
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with the DOJ, we provide them with voluntary interview forms.
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I don't know if you guys were sent that at the time,
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but it says the United States Department of Justice,
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Office of the Inspector General, warnings and assurances
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to employee requested to provide information
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on a voluntary basis.
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You're being asked to provide information
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as part of an investigation being conducted
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by the Office of the Inspector General.
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This investigation is being conducted
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pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978 as amended.
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This investigation pertains to your alleged misconduct
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to include allegations of false statements, job performance
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failure, security failure, and reporting false information.
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This is a voluntary interview.
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Accordingly, you do not have to answer questions.
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No disciplinary action will be taken against you
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if you choose not to answer questions.
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Any statement that you furnish may be used as evidence
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in any future criminal proceeding or agency,
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disciplinary proceedings are both.
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And of course, there is the DPA waiver.
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I understand the warnings and assurances started above
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or stated above and I'm willing to make a statement
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or answer questions.
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No promises or threats have been made to me
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and no pressure or coercion of any kind
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has been used against me.
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You can take a look at this and review it.
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If you agree, there's a section there for your name
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So the only thing that this is actually subject to
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is the deferred prosecution agreement redacted.
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Well, so there's the agreement that you had.
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So that's the part where I'm talking about
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the specific part where it says criminal.
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That's something I think that was worked out
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with the US Attorney's Office, foy, right, exactly.
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I know there is no sort of protection with regard
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to the disciplinary internally, the administrative thing
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will happen at some point, but I just wanted to make that clear.
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But go ahead, you can sign tova.
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Redacted now, obviously, that is pursuant to you
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answering questions truthfully, foy, right.
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Of course, that's the exception to our agreement.
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Redacted, all right.
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And the rest will be filled out by the two of us.
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foy, okay, redacted.
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And thank you for signing Miss Noel, all right.
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So I'm going to sign where it says signature
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of the office of the Inspector General Special Agent.
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Again, this is redacted on printing my name
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and special agent redacted.
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Can you fill out the rest of the signature of witness,
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name a witness, date, time and place?
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Mr. redacted, this is agent redacted
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signing on the signature of witness, redacted.
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And then do you understand the form
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as you read and you review?
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Redacted, great, thank you.
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Before starting the interview,
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I'd like to place you under oath.
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Can you please raise your right hand?
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Do you swear to tell the truth
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and nothing but the truth during the interview?
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All right, please let me know
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if you do not understand any of my questions.
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Redacted, try to rephrase or ask it a different way.
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All right, so this is something we ask everybody.
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What's your current home address?
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What's your date of birth?
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Question and your last four
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of your social security number,
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Question, thank you.
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What's the highest level of education?
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Noel, bachelor's degree.
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Question and what was your bachelor's degree in?
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Noel, criminal justice.
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Redacted and where did you receive your degree from?
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Question, John Jay in New York City.
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Question and what did you graduate?
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Redacted, thank you.
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What did you do just briefly,
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prior to working with the BOP?
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Redacted, prior to working with the BOP,
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I worked in the post office.
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Redacted, okay, what did you do there?
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Noel, I was a male handler.
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Redacted and for how long?
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Redacted six months.
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Noel, aha, question and that was in 2016.
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When did you do that?
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Redacted, 2015 and 2016?
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Noel, not at the post office, I was there, 2017.
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and you have any military service?
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Question and what is that?
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Noel, military service?
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Question, yeah, can you tell me what the service?
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Noel, the army, redacted the army,
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and how long were you in the army?
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Noel, six years, redacted from one until when?
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Redacted and what did you do in the military?
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Noel, I was a patient administrative specialist,
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redacted and what is that?
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Noel, patient admin, redacted,
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patient as in like a hospital?
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So you worked in a hospital and what was your rank
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when you left the military?
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Noel, E4 specialist, redacted and did you leave?
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Were you honorably discharged?
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Redacted, okay, foy.
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This is the lawyer for Toevin Noel.
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Can I one second real quick?
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For the post office, you said 16, 17,
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but you started MCC in 2018.
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So would it be 17 into 18?
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Noel, 18, yeah, redacted.
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You did start with the BOP in 18?
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Question, not in 16.
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That was an error and indesernable.
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So it's 18 when she left the post office in 17, going to.
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So I think it's 16, 17, 18.
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For a post office, then MCC, redacted.
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Okay, and did you work for anybody prior
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or in between your military service
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and the post office?
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So were you want to employ it at that time?
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Noel, no, I was going to school.
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Redacted, oh, that's when you went to John Jay.
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Noel, that's when I was going to John Jay, yeah.
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Redacted, okay, thank you.
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And then when was your enter on duty date with BOP?
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Miss Noel, June 24, 2018, redacted, okay.
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And when did you graduate from BOP training
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down at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center?
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Noel, I want to say September of 2018, redacted, okay.
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But you did graduate from there.
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Redacted, was that a correctional officer training?
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Redacted, all right.
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And when was your first office assignment with the BOP?
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Noel, say that again, redacted.
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When was your first office assignment with the BOP?
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So where did you start?
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Did you start working in MCC and work there the entire time?
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And what position have you had with the BOP?
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Noel, correctional officer, redacted, okay.
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Redacted, all right.
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And when you were there last, you did, who did you report to?
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Who was your direct supervisor?
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Or did you have one?
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Noel, lieutenant, redacted.
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Redacted, and do you know how to spell that last name?
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Question from redacted.
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What is your current?
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Again, this is something we ask everybody.
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We won't be contacting your client.
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But what is your current cell number?
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Mr. redacted, okay.
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And how long have you had that number?
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Redacted so for a long time.
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Redacted and to include in 2019.
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So any other cell phone numbers?
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And your current email address.
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Noel, um, redacted.
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Redacted, ask a question.
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And have you had that one for yours also?
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What are the others?
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Noel, um, redacted.
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Mr. redacted, you've had that for years.
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Okay, both in 2019.
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Do you have any current?
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I should have asked this.
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Are you currently employed right now?
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Redacted by no other means.
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Okay. And when did you last work at the MCC?
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Noel August 10th, 2019.
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Redacted and was that the same supervisor that you mentioned?
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Briefly, what training have you attended or conducted
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during your employment with the BOP?
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You mentioned the correctional officer training at FLETC.
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What other training have they provided you?
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Noel, on theirs two e-training,
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when you first start at BOP,
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I forget what it's called.
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Redacted, I have training.
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Redacted and any other training.
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Redacted annual refresher training.
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So you've gone to annual and what about like a shoe training course?
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And this is just you guys can take a look at this if you would like.
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This is the training that we have for you.
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That we asked for your your list of training.
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I'm not asking you to necessarily verify that you've conducted all of it.
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But it shows the last time you did your annual training was on three eight, 2019.
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Because when you actually completed that week of training, Noel, yes.
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Redacted, does that sound correct?
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Question again, this just goes along with it.
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It shows what the syllabus was as well as the sign-in sheet where Ms. Noel signed in.
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Again, we're not asking you to or for if you want to take a look at this, you can.
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It shows that you did the training in March of 2019.
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And anything that I'm going to provide to you, can you just initial and date?
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And that's just a way for us to verify that that's what we showed you.
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Noel, okay, foy, each page or just the top, redacted, nope, just the top of the page.
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foy, okay, redacted, no, you do have that.
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So just briefly, you don't have to like list off the course syllabus.
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But what did they cover during the annual training?
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Noel, they spoke about different areas like dealing with inmates.
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They spoke about the issues on the job, like dealing with shortages.
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They spoke about basically like mask-vitted, I remember, redacted mask-vitting.
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Noel, uh-huh, redacted, was that back in 2019, people were wearing masks as well.
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Noel, no like, um, redacted, it's for OC sprays, redacted, oh, for OC spray.
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Noel, yeah, redacted, okay, did they include things like ethics standards or conduct?
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Noel, yes, redacted, what about like counts and rounds?
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Noel, I don't recall them talking about counts and rounds.
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Redacted, okay, so did they go over like MCC policy and guidance?
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Noel, yes, redacted, okay, and did they ever provide you with the policies and guidelines?
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Or did they just speak to you about it?
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Noel, for in training, redacted, yes, Noel, they just spoke about it.
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Question, at another time, did they provide you with the policies and guidelines?
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Noel, yeah, it's on like the computer.
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Redacted, okay, do you have to certify that you like received it and you reviewed it?
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Policies and guidelines?
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Noel, I think I signed that like you received it?
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Redacted, right, okay, if you don't mind, he asked her to sign the paper.
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You wanted in the lower right, redacted, doesn't matter, top or bottom, you know wherever
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there's room, I typically do the top, but bottom is totally fine.
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All right, folks, we're going to wrap up with the first episode here,
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and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off.
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