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Welcome back to another episode of the Intel

with Greg Kosell on Inside the Birds.

I'm Jeff Mosher.

I'm with Adam Kaplan.

And of course, we've got Greg Kosell

to continue breaking down NFL Prospects by position.

This position for this episode will be running back.

And Greg, I got to give you credit.

Because last year at this time,

we were talking running backs.

And there was the clear number one in Ash and Gentie.

And then you were the one that said,

you know, this Amari and Hampton guy

from North Carolina has every trait to be as good as

Ash and Gentie.

And if you go look at their rookie seasons,

obviously, Gentie was in a rough situation.

But I think Hampton showed that you were right.

He looked when he was healthy.

Yeah, he was hard.

A really good back when he was playing.

He looked like a good franchise back.

And so this year, you go in.

And it seems like there's a clear number one

that we'll get into.

There is a clear number one.

There is a clear number one.

And I wonder if anybody has gotten into your,

yeah, but this guy, he could be that guy too, kind of prospect.

So let's just start with the clear number one,

Jeremiah Love, out of Notre Dame.

Where is he among the prospect,

the running back prospects?

You watched tape on over the last few years.

Oh, to me, he's fit.

I think he's a better prospect than Gentie.

You know, to me, when I watched Love

and I watched him last summer too,

because obviously he was the name that people were talking about.

And Notre Dame's in a really good football team.

I mean, you're dealing with a guy that,

I think he's six feet to 12, so he's not small.

I kind of saw him in the sort of

Bijan Robinson Jameer Gibbs mold.

You know, I think he's incredibly explosive,

but he can run inside.

He's not just a fast guy.

But the other thing is he can detach from the formation.

He's a very, very good receiver.

I mean, Bijan Robinson in this past season,

20% of his snaps, he was detached.

So, you know, I think you can do that with love,

but he is really explosive,

but there's a physicality and toughness

to his running as well.

So to me, you know, he falls into that category

of a really special prospect.

You know, so, I mean, I remember last year

when people said Gentie, you know,

he was the best back to come out in 10 years.

I didn't quite see that.

I didn't think he was at the level coming out

of Barclay or our Bijan.

And Gentie, you know, did gain 1,000.

He was in a really rough situation.

Maybe now with a Kubiak there, he'll gain 1,500 yards.

I mean, Gentie's a good back.

This is not knock on Gentie at all.

I just think love is bigger.

I think he's just, he's more explosive for sure.

And I think he can give you more in the past game as well.

Staying at that school, Greg, let's talk about

Tudarian price.

Yeah, he's interesting because he, you know,

he stayed there, obviously, and then, you know,

he made that choice.

And so he was, he was more than just a backup.

I mean, you know, because don't forget love

only carried 199 times this year

and 163 times last year.

So it's not as if love has, you know,

was a 300 carry guy.

You know, price is 510, more than 510, 203.

He actually ran well at the, at the combine.

You know, he's your classic case of how do you see him?

You know, we've had this conversation many times

over the years now, these last number of years

about quote unquote feature back

and how teams see that.

And it's different for every team.

You know, I think we have this sense

that there's certain guys like you look at price at 203

and people might say, oh, he's not a feature back.

203 is not big enough.

But, you know, then it depends on team.

And, you know, obviously the player we've always used

is kind of the poster child for this was Kyron Williams,

another Notre Dameer, you know,

who had over 300 carries in 2024

and well over 200 this year.

You know, no one thought of him as a feature back

coming out of Notre Dame, but in in Sean McVase system,

he's a feature back.

Now, this year they went a little more with a two back

with Blake Korum, who had a meaningful number of carries.

I think price probably fits more to me.

And I like price, but I think he probably fits more

in like that David Montgomery mold,

where, you know, you can still get 150, 170.

I mean, with, I think Montgomery two years ago

gives rookie year at 200 plus carries

and this year would have been right there

if he didn't miss three games.

So, you know, I think price probably falls more

into that category than you build your offense around him.

So, you know, he's not loose hip.

There's a little stiffness to him,

but he has very quick feet.

He's a sharp controlled cut guy

as opposed to like his, you know, a Zuzu guy,

you know, with really loose hips.

I would say he's not a true home run threat,

but he did show at times the accelerating speed

to run away from people.

He's very, very tough.

That's what you love about him.

There's a competitive toughness to his running

and that's, you know, that coaches are gonna love that.

I think he'd be seen as a higher volume compliment

as opposed to a foundation back.

That's the starting point of an offense,

but I like Giderian price.

All right, Notre Dame,

I'll always pumping out the running backs.

Let's talk about Arkansas's Mike Washington.

Now, he is a guy that I knew nothing about

because of his whole background.

I mean, he's, he had one of those

where started Buffalo, went to New Mexico

for a New Mexico state, I believe, for a season

and then came to Arkansas for one year

and it was really good.

I like his tape a lot.

Now, to me, I think this guy can be a feature back.

He's 6'1, he's 223, he's got two things

that normally make you think feature back.

He's got speed and power and he's 223.

So, you know, he's both a physical runner

who can get hard yards inside and he's a home run hitter.

So I came away from Washington believing

that this guy can truly be a feature back in the league.

I mean, he's kind of has a rare size speed profile, you know.

He's that guy to me.

Now, again, I don't know how people see him.

And there's also a physical presence to his running

which I thought was really good.

So, you know, you're dealing like I said

with a guy that has just, when you talk about

that kind of speed, I mean,

what is everybody looking for on offense?

Explosive backs, guys who can take it to the house.

He can take it to the house.

Greg, when you look at Jonah Coleman,

he played it two schools, he finished up at Washington.

He's kind of an intriguing guy.

What are your thoughts on him?

Yeah, he's an intriguing guy because of the way he's built.

He's built like a bowling ball, you know.

And from what you hear, and again, I don't know this,

you know, people talk about he might have a weight issue.

I don't know, I don't get into that.

But, you know, he's a highly competitive tough downhill runner

because he's five, eight, and an eighth.

He's got a very low center of gravity,

but there's a physical presence to him

that shows up on almost every run.

I think he's got patience.

I think he has an innate feel to set up and manipulate

both first and second level defenders

with how he uses his downhill path and his stick steps.

He's explosive in the short area.

I mean, he has that short area burst

and acceleration to hit the hole

with velocity and natural power.

He's not a home run hitter.

You know, he's kind of more of a daughter and a slasher,

but he's got very good contact balance

because of, you know, his size, he absorbs

because he's so low to the ground, he absorbs hits

and he can maintain resulting in a good number

of explosive runs that don't come from speed.

All right, Greg, it might be good

just like with the Notre Dame prospects

to ask you about Nick Singleton and Leigh

and K-Tron Allen together.

They were basically interchangeable within the offense

and they both had very, one was a touchdown record holder.

The other was like all-purpose yards record holders.

So how do you see these two prospects?

Nick Singleton is a fascinating study.

Obviously, he did not put up big numbers this year.

As you know, Jeff, he came out of the Pittsburgh area.

He came in at a Pennsylvania.

No, no, he's more Lehigh Valley area.

I mean, High Valley, okay.

I think he was the number one.

I mean, he was like a five-star recruit

and a top 100 prospect nationally.

I mean, this guy was viewed as, you know,

if you get Singleton, man, you got something.

Yes.

He's an interesting guy.

He's pretty much to me a one-cut downhill explosive back.

He's big.

He's six feet and a quarter and two-nineteen.

He's kind of straight line linear.

He's not loose hip, but he's fast and he's explosive.

The guy kind of reminded me of and I thought of this,

I watched him last summer, you know,

when he had the better year in terms of numbers

and then watching him this year.

And then it just hit me.

The guy he reminded me of who was very,

to me, very similar in just downhill explosive,

but kind of a little tight-hipped was Darren McFat.

Oh, boy.

Wow.

And straight line speed.

Straight line, I mean, Jeff knows this.

I mean, Singleton is truly an explosive player.

And by the way, he's tough.

He'll hit it up inside.

I mean, he's not a scap back by any means.

Right.

But, you know, obviously he didn't have the big year.

He's a guy that in the right system,

despite only rushing for what, 500 yards this year,

it wasn't a big year, numbers wise.

All of a sudden you could see him in the right system,

which I think is more zone-based.

That to me is what he is.

You could see him be a guy that all of a sudden steps in

and becomes really good as a rookie

because he just has those kinds of traits.

I mean, you're talking about downhill burst,

explosiveness, power.

I mean, he has what you want for a one-cut zone run ski.

Right.

I think with him, Greg, is if you give him a yard or two

of space and let him get downhill,

he goes from being like a really nice SUV to a truck

because he seems to develop that power with him.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you know, you think back.

And again, now you're talking about team and scheme,

but you think back for people who can remember this

to like Terrell Davis, you know, with the Broncos,

where everything was, you know, that mid to outside zone

and you'd get him clean to the first level

and you could develop velocity and speed.

And if you can do, that's why I thought of Darren McFad.

Same kind of guy, weight about 215 to 20,

real kind of tight-hipped, but, you know, had that speed.

If you could get him downhill, you know,

with a little bit of room, you know, boy, you know,

these guys, I mean, Singleton is a very,

he may be the most interesting back in this class

because the production, people aren't gonna talk about him

because he really, other than scoring some touchdowns

this year, Jeff, as you know, the production was not there

this year.

Right.

And Greg, the next guy I want to talk about,

out of this guy, Emma Johnson had a phenomenal year

at running and catching the football.

All of a sudden, out of Nebraska, he was a backup

until his final year and he just went off.

He had, in fact, he had 46 receptions,

also a 251 carries.

What are your thoughts on Emma Johnson?

Yeah, Emma Johnson was a very fun watch

because he's got a really electric and twitchy lower half.

I mean, he's not big.

He's 510 in a quarter, 202.

He's not explosively straight line fast,

but he can make really sharp, decisive cuts

at the first and second levels of the defense.

Great balance, great body control.

He can re-accelerate when he's in confined space.

You know, his build and frame gives him a low center

of gravity.

So he has very good balance.

He's a slashing, darting,

scat-back-looking runner.

He looks like a compliment, but again,

then you think of, okay, what's the team in the scheme?

But he really has kind of a twitchy lower half.

I mean, he can cut, you know,

he's got that sort of urgent electric,

decisive downhill abilities.

That's sudden explosive burst.

He was a fun guy to watch.

It's just a matter of how he's seen by teams

when he gets to the lead.

Because he's not a home runner.

Right.

Now, what's interesting is Greg Brogatown, Jeff,

he clearly has NFL traits,

but the one knock on him,

this is combine time, is official time is 4-5-6.

Correct.

Not good for running back a fact.

I know there's certain numbers that if you run,

if you're running back, you run worse than a 4-5,

you're probably not going to get drafted from that team.

But this is where tape is Greg just broke down.

The team is pretty good.

His athletic testing measurables

were not what you would ideally want.

Yep.

Overall.

But, you know, this guy gains yards.

I mean, 92% of his carries this year

and he had 251 of them gained yards, positive yards.

So, I mean, he's very rarely gets tackled in the backfield

because of that twitchy lower half.

So again, now you have to decide what he is for your team.

He's going to get drafted.

I don't think he's going to get drafted in the,

you know, top 50 or 60, Adam.

But he's going to get drafted.

But it's, it's, you know, he's one of those guys

if he gets drafted, I don't want to say it as an afterthought

because I don't think teams draft as an afterthought.

But if he gets drafted in the fifth or sixth round

on a team that, you know, it doesn't really need them,

let's say, but they just happen to like his tape,

he could be cut from that team no problem.

But if he gets drafted by a team

that has an understanding of, hey, this is what this guy is,

we have a way we think we can use him effectively.

Then you could see him, you know, be a factor

and he's not going to be, you know, as a rookie,

he's not carrying 250 times, you know,

we're not saying he's going to step in and be a feature back.

But he's got traits as a runner.

Greg, let's go back to Penn State now

and talk about K-Tron Allen.

Yeah, Aaron Contras with Nick Singleton

because they were, they were used different ways

and they were both very effective at how they were used.

See, now K-Tron Allen, you know,

we talked about Taylor and Green,

somebody's going to really like K-Tron Allen

because just the way he runs.

Now, you know what he is, okay?

You know that, you're not drafting him or playing him

because man, this guy can take it to the house.

That's not why you'd be drafting K-Tron Allen.

But he's big, he's 5'11 plus, he's 2'16."

I mean, he's got, again, depending on how you want to run your,

you know, think of this, think of Seattle.

Okay, think of Seattle, you know,

I know it's a different coach now with McDonald there

and you know, the whole thing.

But John Schneider is the guy that's been there, you know,

you think of Chris Carson and Seattle.

You know, K-Tron Allen, depending on what you want

in your offense, he could be that guy.

I mean, he's a tough, competitive, determined runner.

He's got really good vision.

He's got that sort of, which seems like an enigma,

but yeah, that desire to come in nation of patients,

but then decisiveness when he sees the hall.

He can work effectively in both zone and gap schemes.

He's a little deceptive with a short area burst.

It's pretty good.

He's physical, he's tough, he's got good contact

balance.

I watched him last year as well too, and this year,

and I came away with the idea that this guy's got the

look and feel of an NFL back.

And depending on the offense of philosophy and scheme,

he could be the foundation.

He could be the guy that, hey, K-Tron Allen is the guy

we're going to start with because you know what?

When it's blocked for three, this guy gets six.

And he's the kind of guy that we can stay on schedule

with K-Tron Allen.

We know he's not going to take it to the house

and we're okay with that,

but we can stay on schedule and expand our playbook.

Think of it that way guys.

When your back gets, you know, four, five, six yards

and normal down in distance situations

and keeps you on schedule, the playbook for the offense

of play call becomes more expansive.

Everybody loves the home run hitter,

but if he's not able to get, not Allen,

I'm talking about generally now,

but if it's either two yards or a home run,

you know, second and eighth doesn't expand the playbook.

Second and five expands the playbook.

Interesting stuff.

It's tough.

You want to go to Seth McGowan?

Oh, no, you said you didn't know.

No, I didn't do it.

I'm okay.

How about Levy and Moss from...

Levy and Moss, I did do.

He's even hurt a lot and that's the big issue with him.

But he's, he's, when I watched him last year

when he played more of the season

than he did this year, you deal with a guy, again,

a lot of these guys are not big, you know,

like he's 203.

I mean, that's not small, you know,

but, you know, you'd love a lot of these guys

to be more on the 210 to 215 range for the NFL.

But this guy was a, was a track guy in high school,

you know, in Louisiana where there's really good high school

football and fast guys.

So, you know, he's, when I watched him,

there was a physical presence to his running.

Even though he was 203, he had really good contact balance.

He had natural power.

Now, this guy could also grind out hard tough yards.

He was a decisive one-cut runner

in the outside zone scheme that they ran

when I watched him in 2024.

Another guy that I don't want to say is like Singleton

because he's not like him as a runner.

But that sort of had a lost season this year,

but I think if he's healthy,

I think there's something there with this kid.

There, you know, there's, there's traits that, you know,

he could be, look, how many times do we see running backs

in the league?

And we go, that guy's the fifth round pick,

but, you know, he's, he's getting meaningful snaps

and he's, he's a contributor to the, to the team

that he's on.

Every year.

Every year.

Yeah, every year.

He marks, sure.

Yeah.

So I mean, go ahead, Adam.

Wait, two years ago, he had an ACL injury

and that, to Greg's point, he's missed time.

Yeah, but there guys late in the draft,

at some point, you just go by the traits you go,

you know what, he's healthy now.

He could work on the back of his roster

and then to work his way up.

Yeah, I mean, you know, because, look,

it gets into a larger discussion

and I think it's worth just,

maybe we're finishing up with this,

to talk about backs.

You know, obviously Jeremiah Love is a great prospect

and some in this year's draft,

think he's the number one prospect in the draft.

You know, he's not a quarterback,

but even better than Mendoza as a pure prospect.

You know, a lot of people I've heard,

Daniel Jeremiah, who we all respect,

tremendously, loads Jeremiah Love as do I.

But then you get into, you know,

well, he's a running back and,

and then you get smart people that we respect,

saying, well, I would never draft a running back number one,

you know, in the first round.

You know, and that's a fun debate,

but I, you know, think of it this way.

And Adam has spoken about this a thousand times

and you know, you guys talk to coaches as I do.

What are they looking for?

They're looking for explosive plays on offense.

Guys that can, now in this so-called new NFL,

guys that can line up anywhere on your offense

and take it to the house, okay?

Jeremiah Love can do that.

And I'm not blaming me.

I'm not advocating he should be the first,

just talking about backs.

You know, if you're talking about K-Tron Allen, sure.

You're not draft a K-Tron Allen in the first round.

We know that.

But Jeremiah Love, you know,

just to make a blanket statement,

I would never take it back in the first round.

You know, when this guy could be a guy

that you could detach from the formation,

you could throw it to him.

You could create mismatches.

You know, the way offense of coordinators think is,

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How can I do all the stuff that I want to do?

Because as soon as I feel like I'm limited in my playbook,

then all of a sudden, I can't do things

against these defenses that have become so much more detailed

than what they're doing.

So, you know, to me, you can't just make a blanket statement.

I would never take a running back in the first round.

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I love watching the guys who have good traits.

Not necessarily, they all have to go all fast,

but they could catch the ball really well.

They just have good football traits

that go day two, early day three

and land on teams that have good functional offenses

because they can step in right away

and their traits get put to use.

I mean, we see it like Kyle Menongai this year.

I mean, he just stepped into that fairs offense.

There's a perfect example.

I mean, he has a certain kind of,

he's a certain kind of runner that he's very good at.

He's a downhill power runner that can grind out tough yards.

And you know what, there's a place for that in an offense.

That guy's not necessarily a first round pick, obviously,

but there's a place for that.

But I just think of Bayer,

you know, we've talked for a number of years

with the Eagles just to come full circle

because we've been on a lot of time with the Eagles

and we've always talked about,

gee, why don't they use their backs more in the past game?

And this is no knock on coordinate, you know,

we're just talking generally.

And then I think back to,

I think it was was a Denver this year

where early in the third quarter,

they got barfly on Singleton

and he caught the 49 yard touchdown.

If memory serves me to just pop into my head, you know,

yeah, I think it was Denver

because it was Alex Singleton

who was trying to match up to him.

So it was Denver.

You know, and again,

that becomes an explosive play.

Now I'm not saying you're doing that five times a game.

That's not my point.

But if you have a back that can do,

I can't run out and can't do that, obviously.

But you know, if you have a back that can do that,

you know, that back becomes more than just

oh, hand him the ball.

Right.

So it depends on your offense and your offensive coordinator

with how they want to deploy that back

in the context of your offense.

But if you have a back and do that,

you want to be able to do that, you know,

and you know, so, you know,

we see what the Lions do with Gibbs.

We see what the Falcons do with Robinson.

And I know people probably also say,

oh, yeah, but the Falcons stink.

That's not the point, you know,

the point is what you can do with these players

and how you can deploy them.

Right.

And Jeff, as we close this out,

I think Bucky Irving is the perfect example of how.

Just thinking about Adam.

He's five nine around 200.

Oh boy.

You're one that he do with the combine.

Okay, you're right, even smaller.

But yet he's a pretty darn good back.

So and you mentioned Kyron Williams,

was sort of a medical reject.

People were worried about his body.

Maybe it's because he wants to the right coach

and know how to use him.

But there's a place in the league for guys

to where sort of maybe don't have what you want in measurables.

But you have to go by the tape

and see what he could do with the next level.

Yeah, I mean, look, I had a great conversation

with the GM walking back from the combine one night.

You know, a guy I know

and we just happen to be right next to one another.

So I said to him, you know,

look, you've been doing this a long time

and he's highly respected guy, believe me.

And I said, what are the things you look for

when you're evaluating?

You know, because I'm trying to learn,

I try to learn from everybody I talk to, you know,

and he said two things.

He said the tape and the person.

He said all the other stuff, yeah, it's part of it.

But when push comes to shove,

it's the tape and the person, you know,

and he said, he talked to me about two guys on his team.

He said, one guy is 24, 7365 football, you know,

and this guy, by the way, is an all pro in a great player.

And he said the other guy, he said,

is the best athlete on our team?

And that's why we drafted him

because of, and he plays a premium position.

The guy, he said, but this guy

would rather smoke weed in the offseason.

So, you know, but because he's such a great athlete

at a premium position, you know, you try,

you hope that the culture of your blocker room

can, you know, can take care of it.

But, you know, for the most part,

he said you're drafting the tape and the person.

Great stuff.

Greg, thank you so much.

Look forward to finishing going through this series.

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