Iran has Nuke's, Again? Where Does the Truth Really Lie ? Is this National Defense, or does the Military Industrial Complex Need to Continually Feed?

All right, well, welcome to the Take Back America conservative Christian podcast.

I'm Rod Hanscomb from Stanford, Connecticut, always with my good friend, Scott Sylvia

from Suffolk, Connecticut.

And our official title is conservative podcast, but I mean, as time goes on, we always talk

about Christian things, and I don't know what kind of maybe it just needs to be part

of the title here too, because it's often it's kind of the general theme or underlying

theme of what we get into.

And there's plenty to get into this week with more wars and religions, what's worth

the truth really lie and what are the motivations and all this.

So just March 3rd, 2026, I believe the attack on Iran happened what a couple days ago.

Saturday?

Well, I woke up early Saturday morning to the announcement early Saturday.

Yes.

Okay.

So three day, three full days already.

Right.

Right.

And just generally, what are you thinking?

I mean, there's been so much going on in the world.

To me, it just seems like there's just a never ending, you know, like it's always something.

I don't know what to think on this.

Now, you know, I, well, I mean, if they were truly, the problem is is we don't know what

is real.

I mean, were they really three weeks away from having a nuclear grade weapon and then, then

then you get into this.

I'm sorry, because they said that recently or they think it was in Fox News that said

that there was Fox.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was Mark Levin and he's, he's another, you know, to me, he's another synagogue

at Satan.

So I just, third, I, this sounds like a band, it's in a god of Satan.

It's how I feed.

I mean, personally, that's how I feel, so, but clearly that's not what all the reviewers

feel, especially older evangelicals, so they lost the younger evangelicals.

I mean, we all know that turning point and Charlie Kirk, he may, he said straight up 75%

of his followers, who are generally what, 30 and under 35 and under, I would guess, I

would guess, right, bailed on the whole pro Israel thing, you know, big time, you know,

but they're the TikTok generation.

They are the ones that were seeing all these videos coming out.

I've seen plenty.

I find them horrific.

I find them evil late to the core.

But, you know, once again, here we go again, and we were told that we decimated their

nuclear capabilities, you know, you months ago, and then what, you're trying to tell me

that they rebounded that quickly and they're ready to have one on a warhead again.

Yeah.

You know, there was a compilation that was played the other day and it's Netanyahu, who's

been in power forever.

So I mean, 1996, I mean, we're literally, he was out for a while and he's back, but

I mean, he's been in talking to Congress since 90s.

That's 30 years ago, literally, right.

And it was the same thing.

They did a compilation, 1996, so a ranch just about to get a nuclear war at 2010, 2014.

You know, it just, and then we bombed the crap out of him recently.

And then you're trying to tell me if, you know, a few months later, they've got one

ready to go again.

I believe there were some believe that, you know, so I believe the words where they annihilated

it.

They did tell us that, right?

Yeah.

And then six, seven months later, then Fox News and Mark Levin's going to come out and,

you know, tell us that they're, I mean, do you believe that or, um, again, I don't know

what to believe.

I, I mean, do I think that the world will be safer ultimately without these lunatics in

power?

Yes.

Yes.

I think in the long run.

Yeah.

I mean, looking at it, you know, years down the road, if we get these lunatics out, and

all depends on what comes in afterwards is the, the, the person or the group that's

going to replace this group, or they even worse than what we have.

I mean, you know, often, a lot of it.

Yeah.

A lot of it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, we, we had, they said, you know, moon market off.

He was so horrible.

Now there's literally chaos and there is open air slave markets in Tripoli, Libya.

All those migrants that come from Africa, they make it halfway through the desert, the

mafia takes all their money, calls their family back home and extorts even more money

on them, tortures them.

And then they just kind of drop them off.

They basically get sold off to people to work as slaves.

And there's open air slave markets now, you know, wow.

Wow.

So yeah, this idea that we're going to, you know, make everything better and then it's

going to be better.

Well, somebody told me a long time ago, you kind of, you kind of get the leadership

you think you deserve.

Maybe that's harsh, but I don't know.

I mean, I don't know, but my question is, and I sent you an article and the article I sent

you was posted by my, my former pastor.

Yeah, I saw that.

Yeah.

And he said, he said in it, it's like, what would Jesus do?

Jesus says, love your enemies and, you know, so, so basically my question is, is, okay.

So if they did get a nuke, okay, I mean, just an honest question, I'm not trying to be

a smartass or anything.

Sure.

If they did get a nuke and they used it against us, we, we tried to love our neighbors.

They don't love us.

You know what I mean?

So it's like, so is it peace at any cost?

Did they really hate us that much?

Sure.

Do they hate Israel?

Well, they, they chant death, the Israel and death to America.

So I think they hate us, well, they hate us because, you know, we are allies with Israel.

But Iran's a country of 94 million people.

That's a big country.

And in any country of that size or America, you can go find a small group protest and

somewhere, amplify that through the news and make it sound like it's everywhere.

But you know, at the same time, I showed you, you know, if the Iranians as a whole are

so evil, you know, their newest Tehran subway train station, and I sent you the photos today,

it was called the Virgin Mary.

Yeah.

It wasn't called death to America or, you know, death to say, you know, it was, it was

the Virgin Mary, you know, who is mentioned in the Quran is mentioned 23 times.

I looked it up recently.

Oh, really?

Okay.

And I, I had read the Quran before, but, you know, it was 12, 13 years ago.

It actually was a pretty easy read, honestly.

I thought so.

I found it interesting.

It's much shorter than the Bible.

I found it a little easier to read than the Old Testament because it's written more in

the seventh century, you know, Muhammad was around, and I think it was 560 to 630, you

know, something like those general years.

And I found it actually pretty easy to read.

And, you know, she's actually the only woman that's even mentioned in the Quran.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Yeah, I know.

As the Virgin Mary, you know, that list is, you know, and Jesus is, you know, and they,

they, uh, think shit was a version birth, but they don't think that Jesus is the Messiah.

They think he's one of the main prophets of Islam.

He's a special prophet sent by God.

So, you know, how many, how many times has he mentioned in the Quran was 20 or so?

Don't quote me exactly, but in them, and there's probably different versions of the Quran.

Right.

And it's, you know, the Muslim world is two billion people.

It's kind of like, it's pretty close to the amount of Christians that are in the world

too.

So, okay.

So, of course, I'm sure there's some off versions out there from groups that have different,

you know, agendas.

Right.

But the generally kind of classic accepted version, which is the one I read, um, yeah,

though, I mean, the five prophets of Islam are Muhammad, who we didn't have in Christian

religion, of course.

It was Abraham Moses, Noah, and then Jesus, and Jesus was, you know, the high prophet.

Well, I know, I know Islam comes from, they both, both Christianity and, um, well, uh,

I don't know, Judaism and Islam all come.

So, yeah.

Abraham.

Yeah.

All come from Abraham.

That's it.

Yeah.

Christian Judaism.

Right.

And yeah.

And Abraham actually, his original town is, is, uh, is in Iraq, with modern day Iraq.

So, oh, okay.

Yeah.

Interesting.

No, because they made the way to Egypt and then of course, you know, eventually they crossed

the Jordan and that was the promised land.

And that's where we're at today, like, where does the truth really lie with this?

And to be honest, like, like I say, frustrated, but you just sometimes you, you just kind of,

you want people to kind of see the whole thing.

But you have to spend some time studying this because it doesn't get handed to you very

easily.

And there's so many dynamics and, uh, I don't know how you feel about the whole thing.

So, uh, you know, like I said, so many, there's so many, I mean, I hope that this does not

drag out.

And I hope this doesn't drag out for, for months.

I don't think Iran has the capability for some reason.

I think technologically, I just think, I mean, for first of all, did you ever find them

a direct threat to the United States?

Iran?

Yeah.

Um, yes, in certain ways I did, you know, I think they, I think they, like, like, they

funded, well, they fund people who commit terrorist acts all over the world.

Sure.

So they would fund people who would commit terrorist acts here.

So I mean, do I, I think in our whole existence, do you know any Iranian sponsor to tax ever

happened in our border, um, within our borders, not what happens in Lebanon or Syria or,

you know, no, no, no, American targets overseas.

Right.

You know, but I mean, you still have to protect those too, not within our borders.

I mean, um, but you do have to protect those too.

I think is there a potential?

Yeah.

I mean, who, I don't know, what would the potential be directly to us here in the continental

United States?

What, what, what do you mean, like what could they do to us actually within the continental

United States?

Oh, no.

So you'll walk into a market and, you know, they get to get a, uh, somebody wearing a suicide

vest, walk into a grocery store and boom, I mean, think it, but have things around

here on that, um, well, we, I don't know.

I don't, I mean, we don't know.

In the United States.

Trace the money.

No, money in the United States.

Have they ever done that?

Well, I don't, I'm not sure market or something.

So no, we, we've not had, we've not had that, but we've had, you know, mass shootings and

stuff like that.

But it's not like, sure.

Yeah.

No, I don't know.

But was the potential there?

Well, they don't have much of a Navy.

I think they don't have an air.

They never hear about Iranian planes flying on the US coast like, you know, oh, yeah.

No, no, no, no, no, no, they don't have an aircraft carrier.

They can get their way over here.

They're, no, intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Could they reach the United States or would anybody, anybody, no, they don't have to shoot

a missile at us.

So yeah.

Well, that's just it.

You know, if they could get a delivery system, would they use it?

If they had nukes, would they use it?

Would they use it against Israel?

Would they use it against us?

You know, if they had a delivery system, of course.

Now they don't have the technology to reach us, but they could, you know, maybe buy

something from China that could do it, you know, or Russia, because China and Russia

basically support the Iran side.

Exactly.

So, I mean, though it hasn't happened, you don't want to be to the point where it happens

to go, oh, wow, we didn't see that coming.

So is it better to take care of it now and the defense is deterrence, you know, deterrence?

So I think a lot of this is deterrence.

So I think that this action in the long run, looking at it from a 30,000 foot view,

yeah, I think we're going to be safer if we get moderate people in our reasonable people

to lead the country again.

Right.

Well, we did this in 1953, because that's when the Shah of Iran was put in.

And then he was around till what, obviously, 1979, 1979, yeah.

And then you wonder if the CIA put him in and the CIA took him out, I don't mean to laugh,

but I certainly don't, I do know this.

I do know the way to deal with these people is not the way Obama dealt with them by giving

them more money.

I do know that the way not to deal with these people, they don't understand.

They're not honest.

You can't go into an intern to an agreement with them because they're not honest, okay?

So you can't say a nuclear and go, oh, yeah, they won't let inspectors in.

I mean, then what you're stuck, then what do you do?

Okay.

And what do they understand?

They understand strength.

So they understand what we've, what we've done to them now, unfortunately.

That's what they understand, you know, I mean, I don't, I don't trust them because so many

times we've gotten burnt now.

Trump today, I don't know if you know this or not, Trump was asked, are you basically,

are you doing Israel's dirty work that Israel forced your hand?

And his response was, no, actually, I think I forced their hand to do this.

How many people?

I don't believe that.

I think he's totally controlled, you know, so, and I'm not the only one on the, in the

middle or on the right that thinks that, I mean, you listen to conservative podcasters.

Yeah.

How many think that he's just a puppet or what do they have on him, you know, why is there

still three million Epstein files that haven't been released?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Even though it's a law, like Congress passed a law, 434 to one or whatever the vote was

and they still, yeah, they released three million more.

Uh, files, whatever it was, three weeks ago when the Congress was throwing a fit, there's

still three million they haven't released.

Well, I think would they protect it?

Yeah.

Well, I could tell you this.

What they're, what their, their story is, is that, you know, three million files.

So it takes time to go through and redact the ones that they have to redact that what they

claim is to protect the innocent, protect the murder.

Right.

So, yeah, I'm just, I'm just telling you what they say, I'm sorry, I got, I'm not laughing

at you.

No, no, no, I get it.

Come on.

Yeah.

In mass, these victims have gone to Congress and told them their whole stories.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they're not, there's nothing to hide anymore.

They're talking to the press.

They're ready to speak, you know, a lot of this stuff happened years ago.

They've, you know, did you hear some of the tapes of Hillary's testimony?

I did not listen to you.

Oh, she was hot under the collar.

She was good.

Yeah.

And like her and Bill are pretending like they never met on a merge.

Yeah.

No, Bill, this is a portion.

Yeah.

Well, listen, I did not have sex with anyone in that hot tub.

No.

I didn't.

There were other people in the hot tub, too.

Oh.

I think I can drop it on the podcast here.

Did you ever see that painting that Epstein had a Bill Clinton in the dress?

Yes.

Yep.

And it is in the foyer of his, a big house in New York City.

And what, what does that say?

Yeah.

It says, I own you.

Right.

I'm an assimilation beyond, I mean, you're, you guys were friends, supposedly.

No, he's, guys, you know, it's a black and real operation.

Everybody.

What's that?

Was that real?

Did he really wear that or was that just like?

No, no, no.

But he had somebody paint Bill Clinton in a dress lounging out over a chair, you know,

and he hung it in his foyer.

And there are several people that have reported on this.

It's not just like a one off thing.

Okay.

Okay.

Who knows all of this stuff out there?

Well, what does that say?

It just, it's, you're telling somebody, I own you, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If I go down, I'm taking you with me.

Yeah.

Right.

And then you just see the photos of Epstein might be in Israel.

Have you seen those?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I did see that.

When you look, just like they only have one good photo, but when you look at it, you're

like, that could be him, for sure.

Yeah.

What's so?

But do you think that's AI?

Who knows?

Come on.

Who knows?

One component is, with all this deep fake stuff, I mean, I can still tell the difference.

They had one, there was a few months ago, whereas Margie, Margie Taylor, Green was supposedly

was doing, like her own little talk on her own channel.

Yeah.

I could still tell that it was, I mean, at first, I was like, really?

But then after a while, I could still kind of tell it was fake.

But this is completely fabricated.

It is close.

It is.

to be like another year, three years, Gary, how are you going to be able to say for the

truth or not? So literally, you know, you know, the, the bad thing about that is the

law is not keeping up. You know, it's going to have to, there's going to have to do all

these, yeah, these social media platforms. I mean, I don't know what blue check is. I'm

not big into social media, honestly. So, yeah. But as far as what is, how are you going

to verify all this stuff, you know, you'd have to go through that person's channel itself,

who would have to be, that's already verified and you'd have to follow the pathway of it

because deep fakes in three years, are you going to be able to decide for what's real

and what's not? I don't think so. No, that's terrifying. It kind of is when you think

about it, like, yeah, or to say anything about tuning out from social media, I think it's

already starting to happen. I think it's, yeah, I think it's gone too far and it needs

to come back the other way. So, yeah, just the mind rot, like, I myself, I'm not that big

into it, but I'll start watching those shorts. Yep, you know, that's the later. I'm just

looking at stupid, and what they start to do is like, I like, just to get an example,

like MMA fighting, you know, yep, yep. So I'll stop and watch those. They know that

then I get get fed more of that stuff. Well, once in a while, they'll test you. They'll

throw like a street fight in, you know, yeah, some drunks in Scotland or something.

All right. I'll watch that a little bit. Those are hilarious. They are, but then they

step it up and then they had a couple that I watched last week. And other people got

hurt, bad, you know, like really bad, you know, and I'm like, I know sometimes just the

drunk fights are professional is one thing, but people who were drinking, getting in fights

with people, they have no idea what they're saying. But my favorite is long story short.

If I'm feeling I got to imagine a lot of people are, and a lot of schools are starting

to make the kids shut the phones off for the whole day. So yeah, yeah, that's a guilty,

guilty confession here. My favorite Walmart, the Walmart fights, the Walmart fights. I haven't

seen those. So yeah, they're, they're like, just these gang fights in Walmart. And it's

just people, they're not really, I mean, they're throwing stuff. They're throwing each

other around and they're in each other's clothes off. It's your animals. It's hilarious.

And there's some parts of the country. They're shutting all their stores down in certain

cities. Oh, yeah, they don't announce it. Like they never get political. People at that

level never fight back. Like people will tack Walmart, but the Walten's are never like

directly walking down the street. We wouldn't recognize any of the wall. Right. Exactly.

Exactly. They'll add up their wealth. I think I think if you add up their wealth or the

wealthiest family, they would still have, they would have more money than Bezos or Elonwood.

If you added up all the kids, I think I read that recently or it's close enough. Okay, so it's

a lot. Oh, yeah. But instead of getting out there and saying, yeah, of course, we're closing

these stores in San Francisco because you don't prosecute. Right. Yeah. And we can only raise

our prices so much to offset all the loss. Exactly. But they never say that. They just,

I don't know. We'll close these stores. We'll just keep quiet and play the non-political game here,

you know, so. Right. But they're not playing the game. They're not playing it. That's it.

They're just quote, if you, you know, we're not, they're not going to do like what C.V.S. does

and put the razor blades behind, you know, locking key. Everything's behind lock and key.

What are you going to lock the whole store down in Walmart? Some of them doing L.A.

You know, they were locking the whole store. If you want to go on a Q tips, oh, yeah,

you had to go get a someone with a key. Just for key tips. Chees, whatever. Chees,

buck. Chees, buck. Well, they would come in and here's the thing in California. So screwed up.

They could come in and you had to steal like up to $1,000 or something. No, it's not even a

misdemeanor. A thousand dollars. So you can just come back a couple hours later. I guess. I mean,

they would literally come in with their own bags and just walk right out the door.

And nobody could do anything. You can't touch them. You can't say anything.

Well, unless you go to Texas or Florida, right? So, or then you can shoot them.

South Dakota, North Dakota. That's looting you can shoot. Right. But California, no,

hi, sir. Oh, hey, sir, you forgot something.

You know, it's crazy. You know, it is. It's nuts. It's nuts. I remember we talk about,

I was not policies. Just they're when when their leaders are instructed or paid to have

destruction so that the globalists can take over. I mean, it's exactly. It's a very simple

plan here. You know, so it's my father, my father told me if you get caught looting, you could

get shot back in when I was a kid, you could shoot looters legally. Yes. Now you can't,

you can't do anything. You just gotta let them rob your blind.

It's beyond frustrating that it's not all states. I should say no, no, or certain city

municipalities, certain cities, you know, because a lot of times it's not always just the state.

You know, I was in, you know, for instance, I was in Florida a few weeks back and have you

been to St. Petersburg before? Next to Tampa. Long time ago, nice town. It's got great

architecture. It's kind of like Art Deco, great restaurant scene, good vibe. It's a great

walking town. It leads down to a really nice port. Holy smokes, man. Do they have a ton of

homeless? Oh, yeah. Not a little it is off the charts, but you don't see that in a lot of the

other cities, you know, but even in a red state, they're still going to be blue cities.

And St. Petersburg is artistic and whatever, whatever, it's, you know, blue. And then wow,

you go this town, you don't see any and then all is, you know, but so it's not always states is,

right? You know, you're town too, but like going on in the world these days, are you hopeful for

the future? So, um, yes, I am. I'm hoping for the future. I think, I think that, you know, you

got, yeah, there are an end of this somewhere. It's kind of, because it seems like it just keeps going.

Yeah. You know, Russia Ukraine, Venezuela's Narcoteris, and then now it's, we're bomb in Iran.

After we completely decimated their nukes just six, seven months ago, but seemingly now they're

back, you know, so, yeah, to me, it's almost nonsensical. So, yeah, there's, there are things that I

can, yeah, I can speak on and there are things that I can't speak on because I just don't know.

Sure. I just don't know. And like I said, and I did, I did post back on Facebook to my pastor.

I said, this is horrible, but I'm just confused. It's like, I don't, I don't know how you can make,

I believe that from what I see, again, this is just me, what I see is you have to have peace

through strength because you can have peace all you want, but if there's, if there's,

if there's nothing that could back up what you say or nothing to back up your peace,

this says, there's a consequence if they don't do it. Well, for instance, like, look at,

look at all the insider trading and stuff that's going on in Congress. We know they're doing it.

And they say, we're going to have an inquiry. That's great. But they know in the long run,

nothing's going to happen to them. I told you like when we talked about it last week,

I got to repeat it. But when Nancy Pelosi, when Trump called her out,

that was great in the house because she was in there. She was there called her out in the house

and she was on CNN that night. They asked her specifically, what do you say to those

charges from the from the president? What other people are saying? Well, I think we're finally

going to have the votes soon to actually pass legislation. It's like, come on, man. Nobody believes

you've been trying to get votes to pass legislation on this. I know we're finally going to

get the votes. And oh, by the way, I'm retiring. Oh, yeah, I'm on the way out. She's retired.

Now we're getting the votes. Once again, I don't think all that money can just come from insider

trading. And maybe her husband already had some money or would they already had her dad was like,

think I read before, wasn't her dad like mayor of Phil Delphier or something. She comes from

Pennsylvania originally. So I read so she's been around. I don't think she grew up around it. So

okay, but I don't know much about her past, but no, but can all that money really come from insider

trading? Or is a lot of it just thevery? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I know

I know that she's she's definitely crooked. Definitely crooked. I know that she did the same

exact thing that Martha Stewart went to prison for. Now she got some information. She bought some stock

in church and profited from it. And Martha Stewart did the same thing. And Martha Stewart won as

a convicted felon in Angie Polochi. So do you think there's an everywhere to all this all these wars?

Because you know, we, you know, Russia Ukraine is a big deal, man. You know, it's still a big people

don't realize. I think don't realize how big of a deal it is. I mean, Putin himself

in his novel, sometimes you have to put yourself and somebody else's shoes like how do they see the

world? You know, yeah. First of all, that guy is like a master tactician as far as getting power.

He was a lieutenant colonel for crowd out. Yeah. Not a colonel, not a general, not a, you know,

who weaseled his way all the way into leadership in Russia. You know, right, right. No, he's like,

he's no, you know, he's he's no, you know, a lot of leaders, a lot of people in the world in order

to get the power. There's a trail of bodies along the way too. So oh, yeah. You think a few,

that guy, as it's always been even principalities, you know, regional leaders forever. I mean,

who won the most brutal, the strongest one, right? Right. Right. Who, you know, willing to be the

most brutal at times. So right. Exactly. Should we think that doesn't exist? But you know, in Putin's

novel, he wrote, I mean, it was came out a while ago, but he talked about, you know, as a kid

growing up in Soviet style housing, the kids would run through the stairways kind of just trying

to find games to play because they were very, it's very poor country, especially at that time.

And he talked about they would chase the rats, you know, they would chase the rats through the

staircases. And he made a poignant, they're a very, he really emphasized a certain thing where

he cornered a rat. And the rat didn't know what to do. But then it spun turn on its hide legs

and it went at him. Yeah. And the metaphor was, if I'm in this position, I ain't going down.

Right. He sees himself as that rat. He's going to tack out. So if Russia ever starts to, like,

if England actually, if your Starmers talked about it, the prime minister thing, he's talked

about actually getting involved in a land war with Russia straight up. Germany started talking

that nonsense, too. And then the defense, one of the defense minister, secretary of state,

Russia was like, yeah, we'll consider Newcombe, Germany and England straight up. So, I mean,

we're playing with fire so much these days, you know, constantly just playing with fire.

And that's where I separate because yes, I'm conservative, yes, I'm Christian,

yes, I served in the military. So I don't have six years active duty. I don't have an anti-military

mentality. Right. But at the same time, do I think we need to scale all this back? Yeah. Yeah,

I do. You know, what years, what years were you in 86 92? Oh, okay. So I was in during the golfer,

the first one Persian golfer. Oh, okay. Yep. Yep. I was actually, I was slated to go to Turkey

because I was in Berlin, Germany at the time, and I wasn't a frontline combat troop. So they

weren't calling me to go, you know, fire, Persian stuff, but you were intelligence, right?

Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So we had, we had had some new equipment in Berlin. There was part of a radar

tracking thing. They were deploying that to Turkey to help with the theater in Iraq. But you never,

I mean, Iraq seemingly had a major military at the time. You didn't know exactly, but

when it all came down, I already had assignment to come to the States. They sent me to the States,

and I never went. I did volunteer to go, but they only needed a few of us and out of the eight

people that worked there all ate volunteer to go to. Oh, wow. Yeah. So I was slated to go, but it

just didn't work out. But anyways, long story short, I was, yeah, I, I was served in 86 to 92. And

I was in Berlin with the wall fell. So we actually, we actually can join VFWs because we were

considered an occupied city. Oh, wow. Okay. Oh, wow. Right. Cause Berlin was only two million

people in East Germany. And if the crap ever hit the fan, I mean, we were toast in 10 seconds,

because there was 400,000 Russian troops in East Germany surrounding us. So the 4,000 or 6,000

US service members in Berlin. And there was British troops and French troops too. But maybe we had

no chance against 400,000 Russians and another 400,000 East Germans or 800,000 East German soldiers.

So, oh, wow. Yeah. But we got a, you know, veterans of foreign work metal, because we were in what

was considered an occupied city. Oh, wow. Yeah. So once again, I'm not an anti, you know, military.

Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, yeah, I have a libertarian mindset on this, you know, right,

right. Like small military, it should be in the United States, mostly for quick, forward deploying

if needed, you know, and not these bases all over the world, not this intervention and everybody's

business, you know, because when it's all said and done, is it really about safety? Is it really

about keeping the military industrial complex feeding, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, yeah. But if we don't, if we don't do it, well, China and Russia will do the

military complex. And then they'll, they'll be the world powers and we won't, right?

Good. I mean, you know, we, you can argue that all, you know, forever or so. I mean,

how did we survive so well up until World War II? We had virtually no militaries,

because well, because China was, China had like, they're riding bicycles. We were,

I don't know, but there was, you know, there was Germany and England and, you know, so yeah,

yeah. But then World War II came, World War II came and thank God we were the world power that we

were. We were able to defeat them, you know, we, we led the allied forces that took them out,

you know what I mean? And so, you know, I mean, I, I could see both sides. I could see, you know,

if, if we're not, if we're not in that position, you know, like you said, feeding the China and

Russia starts trying to Russia, fill the void. And it's, you know, right, we're, we're no longer

the world power. And, and we're, now we're good with they said they could, they could for sure.

And there's, and there's no easy answer to any of this stuff. So, I mean, I see your point,

the libertarian point, but I also see the other point where we have to maintain this stuff. Otherwise,

you better brush up on your Mandarin. You know, our military, so what a lot of libertarians would

argue is this, our military is so strong. Plus, you got to remember, there's one and a half firearms

for every single American. Oh, that's true. That's true. If they came here, somebody actually land

invaded. What were the odds that they would really be able to subdue this population unless it

was kind of color nuclear? Well, exactly. But that's just it. We all get rifles, but we don't,

you know, we don't have nukes. And I don't know. I mean, I think I could, like I said,

I'm not arguing with you. I can see your point, but I can also see the point of, you know,

if we're not the ones doing this, we don't want them doing it.

Do you know what I mean? So, yeah, again, this is, this is a night of, of, of reflection.

And it's situations like this, you realize, you don't know every darn thing.

No, and even people atop don't know every darn thing. Right. Right. I mean, that's what I'm saying.

So I mean, are we doing the right thing? Here's the thing. Yes, I think this, this, this action in

Iran will be good for everyone. If it's short, sweet, get out and then, and they, in the people of

Iran take over and they put in a government that's friendly to us and friendly to them.

You got to imagine that behind the scenes, there's already, behind the scenes, there's already,

that's, you would think there's already some plan for that. So, yeah, I would hope.

I don't know how many Iranians live in the United States, but most of the Iranians that came

in the United States were the money people. Well, did you see, did you see in New York City,

the big, the big marches and stuff? They're all thank you, Trump and in Tehran. They were,

I mean, of course, I know it's, there's a lot of people in the Iranians in Tehran,

but in New York, there's a big march too. There's a lot of people. You would see that just like

with Cubans, you know, so they're, the, the, the Cubans in the United States for the most part

were the moneyed ones. They were the moneyed families that could leave.

Iranians is the same thing, you know, so when the shawl was overthrown in 1979 and there was

a wave of Iranians that came to the States, it wasn't taxi drivers, you know, it was business owners

and doctors and the professional class and the business class and the, you know, the leaders

of enterprises and stuff, that's who came to the States. So them, I would imagine for the most

part, that group looking back, did they want to see Ayatollah's gone? Of course, you know,

right, right. Hoping that something more like the shawl or more like freedom comes, you know,

the other thing with Iran too is that I know a lot because my brother-law is Iranian. I mean,

he passed away, but, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, while ago my sister, you know, her last name is

Musavion, Musavion, which is Iranian Persian. The kids have Persian last name. So even though they

grew up here and the mom's fully American dad was from Iran and their grandparents and so they're

kind of, they feel like culturally they're in between both worlds, you know? Okay. But, uh, yeah,

that group would be, I'm sure they would be happy to see Ayatollah's go or religious rule go.

Also, they have an extremely, extremely young population. Yeah, a lot of young people there.

And the thing is these days, even in countries like that, with VPNs and other things, these kids get

access to internet stuff all over the world, regardless of how much, because I know in China,

like, you know, I studied some Chinese language and the tutor. In China, she goes, we all have VPNs.

Yep. Yep. So I watch Netflix and everything else because I got a VPN that's in Hong Kong or

or Singapore or wherever, you know, to mean so. They also have Starlink now.

Yeah, and how much you could buy those in the black market to them somewhere, right?

Elon was giving them away in Iran so they could talk to one another. They sent it a bunch of

units and they put a bunch of satellites over Iran. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what Elon does

that when they need communications to get like video out when they shut off back when they're

doing the protests and they killed all those people. Yeah. Elon black market wise, you know,

or they smuggled in a bunch of Starlink units and they were able to get images out through Starlink.

And they were using that. I think they were using them in the Ukraine Russia conflict. Yeah,

exactly. I just, I don't want any nukes to start flying. You know, that's part of the whole

thing. Is there? We just keep push, push, push, push. You know, and I'm kind of wondering like,

if you put yourself in ZG ping or Vladimir Putin shoes right now and like we take Venezuela,

I wouldn't I take a size 12. I don't know what size. Yeah. Oh, sorry. You've been figuratively.

I apologize figuratively. Thank you. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. But you know, we take Venezuela. They

have relationships with Iran and then we just keep giving them the middle finger like now. We take,

we like seize the tanker going to China. You know, Venezuela. Yep. Yeah. Is there a point of which

they're like, Oh, me? Oh, no. How about, you know, yeah, they haven't because whatever reason,

you know, but I know it's kind of gotten in, in honestly, in years past, even up until recently,

like I was moving some stuff today and I realized like when Russia went into the Ukraine and

there was talk about China and Taiwan at the same time ended up buying like a, like a nuclear

fallout suit. Oh, you then? It's like 1500 bucks, you know, really? 100%. This stuff is just

getting so crazy. Like, yeah, it's like the gas mask and the cover and the gun. So you can,

yeah, you can survive the fallout because the biggest thing with nukes is, yes, there's

the explosion, but then there's all the dust and it takes me for it to drop. Oh my god. That's

massive. If you didn't get, if you didn't get gone, you would think of vaporized in the blast.

You wish you had because the fallout, your skin starts falling off and that's what I was thinking

today is like, if it just gets that bad, do you really want to survive? Do you care if you survive?

I think I don't know anymore. I'm going to go out in the yard just to give vaporized.

I know. Here I come, Jesus. There you go. Well, there it is. Here it is because all my friends,

my family, my family, my family, my friends will be dead. What? That's what the quality of life

and life afterwards for the remaining people. Did you see Mad Max? Who the hell wants to live that?

You'd literally, I mean, unless you're an atheist, like big time, or you just have zero faith,

which unforeseen a lot, a lot, a big percentage of the population generally does in a general sense.

Sad. So when I was moving this stuff today, I was like, should I have spent that money or whatever,

you know, it's not the end of the world is 1,500 bucks, but even if something happens, am I going

to break it out and put all the stuff in it? I was going to say insanely uncomfortable because

you sweat, you want, it's unsaying how much you sweat because you literally can't, you know,

you're completely locked in. So it's off the charts. I think how are you going to drink water

and not right? It's not. It's 1,500 bucks. You never get back. Or, you know, I'm 58, turn

at 59 soon. If the whole thing just goes upside down, what am I, what am I individually really going

to do? Right. Right. Well, that's what I said. You know, like I said, I live for my family,

I live for my friends and I live for, you know, and I live for God. And you know what? If that's

all gone tomorrow, I don't want to survive. I kind of found peace in that today because I

tip I was talking to a good friend today. He actually just came back from why he was working on a

defense department stuff, you know, not sharing secrets, but he had a sense that all this

shit was happening because whatever, there's schedule, yeah, schedules changed and boom, boom,

boom, this is going on. But uh, uh, and he has a similar mentality to me. And, and we

have been talking about this stuff for years. And like we literally just laugh and because

it's almost to the point of, is there any end to this? I know, I know, right? It's because there's

never. So, uh, it was a few years ago. When did we leave Afghanistan? Was that three years ago

or so roughly? Oh, you mean the, the disasters pull out of the Biden administration? I think it was,

it was one of the first things he did. Was it? So it was like the back in 2000 or 2021,

I think 2021, I think 2021, three years ago, four years ago, maybe some of his artwork and then,

uh, one of the guys I work with, he's fairly knowledgeable about what's going on in the world. He

goes, Hey, as a ex-military guy, how do you feel about this pull out from Afghanistan?

Personally, my feeling was we were ready for it. They didn't seem to do the greatest job. They left

how much stuff behind it. Oh my god. The Taliban can now use against people. So, you know, I don't

know. Ask President Trump. Ask President Trump. He knows the exact dollar. That's when I knew

this guy. Millie was a loser or, I mean, if the policymakers are controlled by the military

industrial complex, why would they want all the stuff to come back? Is then you just got to build

more, right? Right, right. So when it all comes down, like what percentage of this is really about

what's best for the country? What percentage of this is just a never ending money grab dude.

That's a good question. Yeah. So the point was when he asked me about that, like as a ex-military

guy, how do you feel about what's going on in the pull out from Afghanistan? I said, dude,

I've been watching this long enough. Within six months, there's going to be something else going

on in the world because this machine needs to feed. If you don't have an enemy or a perceived

enemy, you can't justify the insane amount of spending that goes on in this. And then it was like

six, eight months later, it was, you know, it was Ukraine, Russian Ukraine, which many of people,

including myself, feel that we pushed them to the wall trying to force NATO, you know, trying

to force Ukraine into NATO. When we knew that forever, that that was the demarcation line, you know?

So like I said, and my prediction, 100% right. Yeah. Yeah.

So if this ends, people say, well, how do you feel about? I said, dude, just give it time.

Another six months, there'll be something else. It's not one thing. It's another.

Right. Right. Like the machine needs to feed. Yeah. That would be on a shirt. The machine needs

to feed. It does need to feed, you know? And do I think all of these things are some justified,

maybe, or all of them justified? No, I wouldn't put money on that. Right. And is there some point at

which I, if we are on the wrong track, is there some point at which like there's some karma?

Because you know, this country, the economy is like generally pretty good compared to the rest of

the world, you know, Trump. No, I don't agree with all this stuff. I think he's controlled,

but at the same time, a lot of his policies are, I love him, you know? I think they're kind of a

saving thing, you know? But I don't know. I just hope there's just no invention. I don't feel

like there is, but you know, at times, I've questioned, is there some type of karma payback for all

this crap? We do. So yeah, I think we've, I think we've, we've, we've gotten karma back at us

a few times. Yeah. Yeah, major or just little stuff, you know? Well, there've been a couple of

major things. I think, you know, I'm reluctant to say I go, hmm, sometimes I look and go, you

know, like, maybe some, 11 or yeah, 9 11. Yeah, I don't know what I think that was, I think that

was total setup. So yeah, I don't, I don't, but I don't, like I said, I, it's these, these things,

I'm very careful because to, to, to, to be very measured in, in, in my opinion, because

I don't want to hurt people who were hurt during these things and,

sure. You know, but then again, you, you, you want to hold the powers that be accountable for,

for things and yeah, you know, but I don't know, I'm trying to be very measured today and it's

I know. I am too. And this is probably the first time in my life where I'm like, just is what

it is. I just, if this is where the future is or if this is not going to call predestined, you

know, but this is the way this whole thing's got to play out. Like, what am I going to do about it?

Like, is me getting upset going to improve my life at all? Like Jesus said, worry not,

worry not about your, your life. You know, when, when is worrying added one second to your

life and all this other stuff? We're not for tomorrow, tomorrow brings its own worries. So

exactly. I, you know, and I struggle with that because I'm a worrier. I struggle with that.

But in the Beatitudes, you know, which is the sermon on the mountain, the book of Matthew,

you know, one of them is blessed be the peacemakers for they shall be called sons of God.

Right. And do I feel like we're peacemakers?

No, not really. No, I don't know. Money makers, we're money makers. That's for sure. You

know, that is for sure. And, and I think about that too, because, you know, when I travel around the

country, like you go to certain parts of the country, you're like, if there wasn't a defense

apartment, that's, that's what half this city is based off, you know, I miss correct you. It's

the war department. Thank you.

Department, which I think is more aptly named these days.

Yeah.

So the war department, yeah, the war department. So, but like if we had, if we had a small military

and just worried about our borders in the next two decades, do I think anybody out there is

really going to come attack America when there's one and a half fire arms for every American.

Right. And just even if our defense department was four times smaller than it is. And I think

generally the federal government is probably four times bigger than it needs to be. I think 75%

is just total redundancy and waste, you know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm with you there. Yeah.

In the neighborhood. And I think defense department is, sorry, part of the war is like that.

Let's so we go back to having a defense department really just defending, you know, the country.

What would happen economically? Because how much of the economy is in, I mean, how many people do

you know, where they were in the military, the kids in the military, right? They work for a defense

contractor. Right here in Connecticut, New London, Connecticut, how many people work at electric

boat and building the submarines, you know, right? Right. Exactly. United technologies, you know,

up in your area. Yeah. All those engines, you don't think a lot of those engines are going on

military aircraft. Pratt and Whitney. Yeah. Pratt and Whitney. Yeah. 35 is their big

contract. Right. So Korski helicopter is in Connecticut, right? Yeah. So a lot of the biggest

manufacturer Boeing, who's a enormous company, 50% of their bus business, if not slightly more,

is even bigger than their commercial division. Oh, wow. And they build half the planes in the

world for crying out loud. They do. Defense still. So what would happen to us economically if

all of a sudden we weren't building, we were building 25% of what we were. How would that change

like with adult men start working in restaurants again and start doing farm work and go back

to the trades rather than rather than immigrants doing all this work, you know, right? Good questions.

But at the same time, could you take all of that money and put it into infrastructure like rails

in higher end highways and, you know, right, right. Big questions out there. But you know,

travel around the country like Jacksonville, Florida, what the hell is here besides the two navy

bases they have, you know, like these towns, what would happen if these towns didn't have to

go military. San Diego. Oh, it goes on Texas and all over the country and how much money gets fed

through defense and it's the coast guard. On and on and on, you know, so you're like,

what would it be the end of the world? Like, you know, if, if, because you go to France and you go

to Europe, there's adult white men, our age that still work in standard restaurants as waiters.

When is the last time you've been there since somebody of our demographic that worked in a

restaurant? I can't even remember you and far between. Right. But it's good money. You can make

a good living, you know, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's kind of fun work. I've done it before. It wouldn't

be a horrible thing if that was my profession. I've never done that work. I have a lot of respect

for it, but I know my limitations and I know that too far. Right. But even in high end restaurants,

I go to in New York City and here that I'll see any Caucasians, you know, hardly any working in

there, you know, it's true. But meaning like, how would the world change? How would America change

if we didn't have so much of the economy just pumped by government spending and defense spending?

True. Yeah. I mean, in subsidies, subsidies, you know, they pay farmers, they pay farmers,

something, you know, something, would they be farmers? Well, we, our government literally

pays farmers not to grow something. Yeah. You had sent me something. I think that was today or

yesterday and it had to do with, and I see this a lot where I see these posts come out and people will

say the Karan says blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Or did you hear about Mohammed, you know,

who's their, you know, venerated profit, you know, and they'll say, oh, he consummate a marriage

with a nine year old like way back when or, you know, I just, and I'm like, I don't know if it's

true. I don't know if it's not true. But some of these attacks, I mean, do you have a general

feel for Islam or Muslims? Because there's been enough negativity out for the last 40 years. That's

for sure. So, do I have a general feel about, yeah, our general opinion or feeling or, you know,

you think they're as evil as portrayed. No, no, but I do think, in all honesty, I do think that

they have a hard time assimilating to Western civilization. I think that I think that they're,

they have like, there's things that they do that just is, is not compatible with Western civilization.

What do you mean if they immigrate to the States or? Yeah, they immigrate to the States. Some of

the stuff like, well, now, I mean, I don't know if this is true or not. But I, from what I heard,

is they want to have dog free areas for Muslim people and public areas, because there's, because

Muslims don't like dogs. Well, we love dogs and we walk our dogs. I mean, I don't know. Of course,

this is like you said, all the Muslims I knew that they were not overly religious, but God,

they had three dogs. Yes. Okay. I mean, like I said, this is what I hear. So that if that's,

if that's the case, then no, it's not compatible or like, um, I don't know. I mean, I, well,

now they're posting videos to call some prayer and I had one person that was in, I think,

Dearborn Michigan. Yeah. And she went out there with her iPhone and she could hear the calls to

prayer at 5 a.m. She says, every morning, we got to listen to this every morning and they're

out there. Oh, they do the five calls of prayer right over the loudspeakers. Yeah.

You know, it's like, we don't do that here. You know, I mean, I can, I can kind of see that.

I mean, if every morning and I were looking near, near a mosque and I heard that every morning,

you know, when I was in Saudi Arabia, you know, I was there for a week once on a business trip.

And I was in, I wasn't in Riyadh the main city. I was in Jeddah, which is right next to Mecca.

And you know, Mecca, wherever they do the hodge every year, the Jeddah airport and the Mecca

airport are right next to each other. So I was right. And I wanted to go to Mecca, but as a non-Muslim,

you're not supposed to go, you know, one of the, the family is just one of the drivers used

Egyptian guy. He said, Oh, I can take you, you know, blow a blonde. I didn't have time to go do it

or, you know, whatever. But, you know, the five calls to prayer day and I've been in other countries,

like United Arab Emirates, you hear that every day and there's no negative five to it. I mean,

no, no, no, no, what I'm just what I'm saying, though, Rod is people, we didn't grow up with it.

Right. So they don't suddenly, you don't want to start hearing that five times. But it's not the

whole city of Dearborn. There's a certain, there's a mosque. Yeah, there's certain mosque in there.

And there's a, there's no city ordinance against it. So there's no city ordinance against it,

but this is, this is the conflict, you know, and this is the conflict. This is, I mean, honestly,

if you grew up in this, and suddenly, there's, and suddenly you were listening to this,

sure, I don't know if I, I wouldn't get pissed off. You wouldn't. Oh, I probably would.

Oh, you would. Okay. Yeah, I had a neighborhood and I, I mean, if you wanted to have the five

prayers a day, that's great. Sure. Whatever, you know, yeah, just I don't, you don't need to scream it

over a loudspeaker. No, I understand. Yeah. This is, this is the kind of thing I'm saying. I

trail everywhere in the States and, you know, areas that have big Muslim populations. I've never

once heard any. I don't like I said, this is, this is a, this is a, this is a social media post.

A woman had a video. She filmed it with, I don't know. Again, it does not happen around here.

Sure. It doesn't happen around here. We have, we have a, a, a Windsor, I believe, we have a

pretty good size Muslim population and they don't do that. They don't do that here. You know,

they don't do that there. Yeah. They're, they're peaceful. They come and they, they do their thing

and we do our thing. But, um, I mean, I don't, I think that if you get both religions,

even Christianity has their extremist too. You know, so there's just a journey with the immigrant

experience in America. Like, you know, the Catholics and the Protestants, you know, right?

Well, we're letting Catholics in now. What was this is a, well, we don't look at it that way

anymore. So yeah. Well, we'll, we'll take the, we'll take the, uh, the Jews and the Chinese.

But you don't want the Irish. Yeah, right. But you don't want the Irish.

So I think that there might be some things that are just in conflict with, um, uh,

with Western civilization. I just think that, you know, I mean,

you know, it's just, if you come here to assimilate, then that's fine, you know, but yeah.

I just find like, you know, I've known lots of Muslims over the years and, yeah,

just like most Christian people we know or people who grew up in Christian families.

Yeah. Most of them never go to mosque. No, yeah. Well, there's, I met a guy and he said,

ah, most of these Muslims are Margarita Muslims. I never heard that term. Margarita wasn't heard

that much before. But I liked it. And I kind of just, I was in a, that was a travel one time.

And I met a guy. He was from Jordan, and he had a business guy from Saudi Arabia there. He

wasn't drinking. And then another guy, Muslim, and they're like, ah, we're Margarita Muslims.

Margarita Muslims. Is that like a limousine liberal? Is that like a limousine liberal? Yeah,

Margarita Muslims. Yeah. So, uh, uh, today, and they all watched football and they all gamble

in Vegas. And they all, I mean, so they're Western, they're, they're Westernized. Yeah. And like,

when my sister and her husband, her husband who passed, yeah, passed like 15, 16 years ago,

when the kids were little, they're like, neither of them are religious. So they're like, oh,

are we going to take into the mosque? Oh, are we going to have the kids baptized? You know,

because he's like, I don't know, you know, but they're not religious anyways. So nothing really

happened regardless. You know, but there was that conversation, you know, my sister grown up

Catholic and he grew up Muslim. So culturally he's very Muslim and he wore, you know, the medallion.

Okay. Like Muslims can wear and never remember him going to the mosque, though. Like,

I'm sure he's been, but every couple of years, three years, who knows, you know, so, but,

but it's a culture, it's, you know, cultural. And even he and said, he goes, I can't see my

self-careverting my whole blood runs through Muslim. My family is, I just, you know, I,

you know, and when you study it, I mean, yes, they're descendants of Abraham. Yes,

the five prophets of Islam or Jesus. And to me, I don't find it radically different.

I am, well, I know because my wife works with a lot of Muslim doctors and she says they're,

they're, they're very westernized, you know, and it's, oh, sure. They're like Americans and

you know, they, and you know, they have areas in the hospital. I mean, I remember when I

worked in a hospital, we had a couple of Muslim doctors and they would just go into a room and

pray and, you know, take out the blanket. Okay. They had a prayer room. Yeah, they had a prayer room.

Yeah. And, you know, I mean, it worked and they're, you know, it's, I think for the most part,

your professionals and like doctors and, you know, I think that they don't, they don't have a problem.

But I think if someone's extreme and no matter what religion you are, if you're extremist,

you're, you're dangerous in any religion. So my brother-in-law who's deceased his business partner,

Hassan is from Jordan. That it's not currently my sister's business partner because after the

brother-in-law passed, my sister had to take over the business. They still have it to date.

Today in Bridgeport, Connecticut, so, and he's very religious guy himself. He's Muslim. And I

said, hey, you know, I really like to go to the mosque sometimes, you know, and he took me a few

times. Yeah. And clearly, you know, I'm not Muslim, you know, but everybody was really cool and

friendly and, you know, I didn't feel any negative vibe like I was, certainly wasn't praying to

the different God. It's the same God of Abraham, you know, and never once, and they know tons

because they've been working at Bridgeport and a lot of their workers used to be Muslim students

who were here at the University of Bridgeport. And, you know, they're in the community. They know

each other. They go to the mosque, everybody's friends. Never once have I heard anybody mention

all this guys did blah, blah, blah. This guy against America, against the infidelzer.

Right, right, right. Not once, you know, so. Yeah. Yeah. And they're not anti-Christian.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, then that's great then. They've come here and they're

probably born here, right? They're generation. No, no, no. They're all, all didn't come until college

age, mostly. Oh, okay. All right. Didn't come until they're eight years old or 12 years old.

Well, they came to, yeah, they came here wanting to, uh, to, uh, sure, to become Americanized

and don't buy. Like you said, well, Ming vast majority. And they're probably not very religious,

so they're not, they're not extremists or anything like that. So, but just because you, but some are

very religious, but that they're not extremists. So, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Like I said, I,

I don't know. I'm not, uh, yeah. I'm not blessed be the peacemakers. They're exactly called

sons of God. And I just never see anybody really looking to be peacemaker because there ain't no money.

There ain't no money and peacemakers. Yeah. No, just like cancer treatments. You could easily,

they could start pushing different food system. Oh, yeah. Really encouraging people to fast,

which is really an answer to so many health issues out there. Why don't they do it? Because there

ain't no money. Right. Right. There's, well, like, even like RFK says, you know, there's,

there's big bucks in chronic disease in this country. Huge. Yeah. He was a big money. You bring

him up. He was just on Rogan again as to follow the last, I think it was last week. So,

I haven't listened to quite a bit of it. After a while, you kind of get the point. And I just,

it's so negative. Like this garbage. Well, garbage food system. We have this country.

It was gotten so promoted. It promotes chronic disease. Right. It does. It does.

Because there's so much money in the cure. It does. Right. Exactly. Yeah. There's no, no money in

the cure. But isn't that a lesson at some point? Like,

is that love of money when you're doing things that are clearly, you're not being a peacemaker?

Right. You're beholden to the military industrial complex. You want to keep this baby going

because so much relies on it. Like you said, you got to feed the machine. You got to feed it.

The machine needs to feed, you know, the machine needs to. You can't, you can not justify

this thing if you start having peace. They know that. They know that as soon as you go six months

with no conflicts and things are generally good. But is that what God calls us to do or is he

calling us to be the peacemakers? He's calling us, definitely calling us to be the peacemakers.

He's not calling us to be weaklings. I mean, you know, Jesus said, I did not come to bring peace.

I came to bring the sword. Yep. So he's not expecting us just to be releasing does and, you know,

looking the other way when there's not going to go to all those doves back. Those things have

a mind of their own. You know, but when you look at all this, it's like, wow, wouldn't it be nice

at the world? It was run truly run by people, you know, trying to follow Christ's heart,

Christ's teachings because I don't see it. But do you think, but do you think that there is a

resurgence in religion in this country? I heard it. I mean, I'm already there all the time.

And I don't know if there's a lot of people around me who have actually shared that, you know,

once again, we're in, we're in Connecticut. And I was telling you, like, you know, I lived in

Seattle for a long time. And then Northwest, these say, oh, this is the least church part of the

country. Like I've been living back here for 12 years now. I never hear anybody ever talking

about God or church or Jesus or being saved or, you know, right, right. Ever. Like literally one

year ago, a guy know it squash. And I know a lot of people over there and they're all at time.

He just mentioned that it was Sunday. He just mentioned his kids went to church. He goes, I didn't

go because I told him I've already been a thousand times or whatever, whatever. And I almost fell

off my chair that anybody even brought up church or going to God. Like I hear it that infrequently.

I think there's a resurgence. I think people, the younger generation, I get the sense that there is

because a lot of younger people are coming back to the Lord. Right. If you put yourself in a young

person's shoes, we're like, okay, you're growing up as a young adult male. You've been told you're

the problem. You're the evil one. You're like, what did I do? You know, exactly. All this weakness,

all this victim victim that doesn't work that is just just just the words of the devil. God

doesn't tell you or victim. God doesn't tell you you're incapable. God doesn't say, you know,

blessed is he who's in the world for he is greater. No, he said, blessed is he who's in you.

Right. Right. All the things they've been fed are the exact opposite of what a godly message

would be. So it kind of makes sense at some point. You're like, forget all this, you know,

they tell me it's bad. Oh, that almost draws me to it, you know. Yeah.

That's everything they else, everything else they say is just garbage. Right. Exactly. But I think

what is it? They said, they're like, I forgot what the number was. It's like, oh,

we're 70% of the kids pulled like under 25. Right. We said, you know, identify as some sort of

Christian or really? Yeah. God based. Yeah. What percentage? I think like 70. Wow.

I mean, I don't know what the breakdown is on gender, but you know, that is encouraging because

amongst my peers, people I've known most of my life, my age, like you're the exception,

but how many are generally Christian, Christian third? Yeah. It ain't no 70%. That's for sure.

No, no, no, no. Throughout my life, many, many times, I've known that he, I could never have come

through something or made it without him. And I did want to be those guys, one of those guys who

turns to him, just when I need him. So every morning I pray and I give thanks. I just say thank you.

Just say thank you. You know, and it's like, because I don't want to be the guy who say, oh, yeah,

something happened. So now I need to turn to God. And I just, I don't want to be that person.

You know, he deserves, he deserves a lot more than that. Oh, no. And I got, you know, a slap in

the face here recently too, where I just, I'm not saying God, not from God, but you lose the

armor when you get complacent and lazy. And that's where the devil, devil is, yeah, you were mentioning

that. Kill and destroy. And he's looking for weakness. You know, that's, yeah. And you talked

about that. And I, that's one message. I'd love to hear, especially a lot of younger people, a lot

of younger men. Yeah. Because I heard this recently from somebody, I know pretty well,

younger guy. And he grew up going to church somewhat is gone from it now. And you know, a lot

of the kids these days, they grew up, you know, taking ADHD medicines and, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Whatever reason that seems to lead to sometimes antidepressants, you know, and I said, if you ever

thought about just like getting off of it altogether or just weaning your body and they shared

as like, I don't have it. And bad times hit the bottom drops out. You know, so what he's getting

or what he's explaining that he's getting from the antidepressants is, is, it raises your kind

of a spiritual level, I guess, but it raises it. So you can only fall so far. You can't bottom out.

And I heard, it was two times. It was kind of point. It was, you know, I'll show the names.

It was David Letterman and it was also Louis CK. And you're like, okay, you guys are loaded.

Yeah. Yep. You're admired. You have admiration from tens, maybe a hundred million people are

like you. You know, not everybody's got a course lot of people aren't gonna like you, but you got that.

You got travel anywhere. You got freedom to be creative. You're at the top of the game. And

both times I heard them talking about taking Letterman talked about it. Louis CK did not,

but maybe he does. They talked about taking antidepressants because, man, when I'm having a bad time,

the whole bottom just drops out. Yeah. Yes. I could relate to that. That happens to me.

And what I could say, I'm just talking from my personal experience is, yes, in years past,

I would have times where it felt like the bottom falls out like. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like you

obsess. Yeah. When I became born again, which was about, I just tracked this call 20 years ago.

I know right afterwards, I went like a 10 years of very difficult challenges. Like one thing after

the next financial and personal and you name it, it was just coming at me and just, it felt like

it was never going to end at times, you know. Yeah. I'm not. But everybody has to go through that.

Everybody goes through that at times. You know, if you make it all the way to end the life,

everybody's going to have a season like that at some point, you know. Exactly. But as opposed to

previously where the bottom kind of felt like it was dropping out, once I had that very close,

very connected relationship with him, I remember like a major thing happened. I was like,

what the heck is this? And immediately I felt like his spirit like already midway in my body.

With the message being, this is as far as you can, you can drop no matter how crazy, no matter how

difficult, no matter how ugly it gets, when you have this kind of relationship. So meaning is like,

if people had that and you could just get rid of the antidepressants and get rid of the pharmaceuticals

and just get rid of all this stuff that you think it's helping. But after several years of this,

doesn't your body get used to it? And it kind of changes your wiring and maybe you need more in

order exactly. You're going to have to get more in order to keep you going. But with that is like,

no, as soon as I had like a major thing that seemed totally unfair and totally crazy was going on,

there's no answers to immediately right after that time period. I literally felt like I could

feel the lie like across my midsection like, this is as far as your spirit can drop where it could have

gone, you know, pretty incredible though, pretty incredible story. And even if just, you know,

even if just one person out there gets this message eventually and can take that and realize that,

you know, I don't, I'm not trying to make a metaphor or a statement here, but, you know, no,

but God can be your antidepressant medication. But that's the purpose of this show.

Right. I think it is. I think it really is. No matter, even with everything that's going on

today, if you have God, you can only fall so far. He's not going to let you. He's not going to fall

all the way. Right. So those three examples and there's, you hear those things all the time.

I'm clinically depressed, you know, I'm, you know, I need the meds. I need this. I need that.

The bottom falls out. Well, you know, all hell could be breaking loose.

And I'm not saying I had it the worst and who knows how bad, you know, things could always be

much, much worse. But yeah, I don't know how far the bottom could fall out, you know, when you

have perspective about God. That's why every, every week I like doing this show, it's kind of a

reaffirmation of, yeah, we're talking about how crazy the world is. Right. But then if you center

down and you center down to the, and like I said, so I think we'll just continue. We'll talk about

the world and we'll dig, but we ain't going to go super deep because super deep leads to no,

you don't even want to go there with the depths of where people can let their spirits fall to,

and it's always without God in their life. It's always so true. That's always, you know, the craziest

things you hear out there, the most depraved, the most sinister, the most ridiculous, how many

people doing that are truly not so true. Oh, man, it is so true. So always keep your God close,

you know, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. He is your Savior, He is the answer, He is the way,

He is the life. Yes. And then He said, once again, once again, we love all the listeners out there

and we're just hoping and praying for everybody out there. And once again, just trying to share

some encouragement, talking about the world, but also like, how does God and how does Jesus

tie into this? How are we living in the world, but living in the word at the same time? So

right. That's the struggle, isn't it? Living in the world and in the word. Yeah. And it's always

been that way. It always will be that way. So that's true. That's the constant challenge. Right.

And seemingly as craziest things are, I'm almost starting to feel almost more peace with all the

as the craziness just ramps up. I wouldn't expect that. I just wish I had more answers,

but I don't, but that's okay. You don't need all the answers as long as you have faith.

Right. Exactly. Once again, concentrate on the word more than the world. So right.

Right. Very good. All right. Well, great show as always. Love it. Love it, my friend.

All right. And we will catch you next time. So