
About this episode
On 3 January 2020, the United States killed Iran’s top spy master, Major General Qasem Soleimani, in a drone strike in Iraq.
There was nothing grey or ambiguous about the assassination, but this episode explores the escalating grey zone hostilities between Iran and the United States in the preceding years and how they almost ignited a real war.
Sky News journalist Deborah Haynes explores in particular how Iran allegedly uses proxy forces in the grey zone, under the threshold of war, to try to level the playing field when competing with a super power.
Interviews:
General David Petraeus, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency
John Raine, Senior Adviser for Geopolitical Due Diligence, International Institute for Strategic Studies
Anne-Marie Trevelyan, Conservative MP and former UK defence minister. She now serves as energy minister
Fabian Picardo, Chief Minister of Gibraltar
Anonymous Iraqi MP
Seyed Mohammad Marandi, Professor of English Literature and Orientalism, University of Tehran
Major General Amos Yadlin, a former chief of Israel’s Military Intelligence Directorate
Credits:
Written and narrated by Deborah Haynes
Edited and produced by Chris Scott
Production support from Michael Greenfield
The head of Sky News Radio is Dave Terris
Get every episode summarized
Each time The Wargame publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes


