Is Crypto Really Just Financial Infrastructure? | David Hoffman & Michael Ippolito

In this episode, David Hoffman, co-founder of Bankless, and Michael Ippolito, co-founder of Blockworks, join Rex to dissect the current state of crypto. They dive into insights from EthCC and the Modular Summit, debating the industry's shift from apps to infrastructure, the role of VCs, and the challenges of user adoption. The conversation explores crypto's identity crisis and its path towards real-world utility beyond speculation. Join us on the search for crypto's killer app, enjoy! - - Follow David: https://x.com/TrustlessState Follow Michael: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) EthCC & Modular Summit Reflection (04:15) The Crypto Conference Industry (8:20) Evolution of Ownership (12:30) Future of Crypto Funding (16:50) Is Crypto Not for Apps? (23:20) What is Crypto Securing? (29:40) Infra vs Apps - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.