Is Dillon Gabriel's time with the Browns coming to an end?

I was a spirited 40 minutes of Brown's draft discussion for you right there.

Honestly, rewind, go back and check it out.

I don't know that I'm ready for the next three weeks, Darryl.

I don't know.

I don't know that I'm ready for all the draft conversation that we're going to have.

Because I have so firmly entrenched myself in certain parts of the draft community and

the draft process of this all, that the next three weeks, and we get it earlier this year,

but the next three weeks, I can't believe it's already April 1st.

It's insane to me.

I'm just looking forward to our mock draft once again sending social media into a complete

meltdown.

But will it hit the same way?

Because I think so.

Part of the reason why I thought it hits so well is because of the Shodora Sanders

element to it all.

Like Shodora impacts everything.

You know that well enough, but I don't remember where exactly the draft board.

Did the draft board have Shodora like number two or was it completely off the board?

It was one extreme or the other that sent everybody into a tizzy, and I don't know if you're

missing the Shodora element.

Well, you also then be missing the clicks and the retweets and everything else.

I don't think so.

I think a good time will be had.

Well, good time will definitely be had, regardless of whether or not the Internet agrees

with it afterwards.

You have to get one of those photos you had too, though, where you have one of the funniest

things.

I'll never forget it just because like the concept of it is what I won't forget, because

I was in, I went to Disney with my family that week, and so I was in Florida and I was

looking on wine and watching this thing go crazy viral.

This photo of the draft board and everything associated with it, and there's a, in that

photo, I have to pull it up, but in that photo, there's like a guy that uses your jacket

as his coaster for his buttlight, and it's like the funniest thing in the world to me.

He's a, he's a sitting there and he's using your jacket as a coaster, and you are just

having such a great time and you could not be any bit aware of what was going on within

that moment, and I loved it.

I loved every bit of it.

I got to find that photo.

I will have to buy it for a while.

Okay, no commentary.

Yeah, I don't remember that part of it, but I'm going to make you pull up the photo in

between the break, and now I'm going to have to show you.

I have to find it.

I can see Mack is trying to find it right now as we speak, because I, I want to see if

my memory is 100% right or if I'm off, there was something with the coat and the buttlight

that I remember is specifically that I'll have to, we'll have to reenact at some point.

I don't, I don't see that photo, but I have the actual result from last year.

Okay.

So where's the door?

Yeah.

Shoulder went 10 overall to Chicago.

Okay.

Oh, so maybe it is should or proof then maybe what was all right, read off, read off the

top 10 from last year's draft according to the 92 three, the fan mock draft.

Travis Hunter went number one overall.

Okay.

Not didn't work out great for the drafters there.

Okay.

Browns went to Abdul Carter at two would not have worked out great.

All things considered considering Abdul Carter did not have a great working season.

It was a better second half, but he basically, I think I had a half of a sack all year.

I think we're right around there.

Cam Ward went three.

Okay.

Will Campbell went for it.

So they got that right.

Did they?

Because Will Campbell got exposed in many, many ways this season.

Ashen Gentie went to jail.

Well, Campbell was a, he was a turnstile in the playoffs.

I mean, he also allowed five sacks to Miles.

So I mean, I, I think Miles loves them, but it's six, not up in the case for Will Cameron

to come out there.

Tedder Holen and McMillan went six overall.

And that was, that was better than what the Panthers did at eight.

So that was like a, that's a leg up for the mock drafters there.

Seven was Harold Fanon Jr.

That's pretty good hit.

That's a, that's a good hit.

I bet people laughed at that at the time, obviously, because he ended up going in the

third round and it was what that was, but the drafters are pretty good there.

Hey, we, we had a matching fan in the house.

Exactly.

Jalen Walker went eight to Carolina.

And then, oh man, I can't pronounce this last name.

I'm going to go.

I'm going to rush her from Ole Miss, uh, princely go ahead, I, you know, go ahead.

I got my finger on the top button.

Yeah, go ahead.

You know, I want to say I nailed that at all.

I completely butchered that.

Um, and then, uh, should door at 10.

And then should door at 10.

Okay.

There we go.

All right.

So anyway, uh, obviously we pull them every day at five.

People are texting in being like, how do we get involved in this?

We pull it every day at nine o'clock.

I did five o'clock and then a noon and it's a whole thing.

And then, Daryl is the commissioner and you do a great job with that.

We look forward to seeing everybody out there again this year.

Also, by the way, shout out to the Ravens who took a kicker at 27 in the mock draft.

Is that the spirit of the mock draft?

I feel like that's the spirit of the mock draft.

Anytime you can punk the Ravens and the Steelers and the mock draft, the commissioner does allow it.

All right.

Uh, Mary K. Capit was on with Baskin and Phelps today and she spoke about the latest around

Dylan Gabriel.

Here we go.

They are saying that Dylan has an opportunity to come in and also compete for the starting

job.

And I think they kind of probably don't love the fact that maybe, you know, we have kind

of written Dylan off basically.

So they're trying to say, no, that's premature.

He's still on the roster.

I think that it's not customary for a player to be coming in in the office unless you are

coming off of an injury and you need to be here for treatment and rehab and those kinds

of things.

There's nothing wrong with Dylan not being here, but I do think that there was a bit

of contrast between, you know, Munkin, not meeting Dylan Gabriel yet and Shadour, spending

a bunch of time this off season in Cleveland, getting to know Todd, buying him a horse

his head for his birthday.

All right.

You buy into that.

I, and by the way, I'll put it on the front of it.

I think like the five minutes we spend talking about Dylan Gabriel's, though, the most

I hope to spend talking about Dylan Gabriel in the next three months, like I, I just,

I hope he's so far removed from this quarterback competition that he's like an, he's not, being

an afterthought is what I want Dylan Gabriel to be, which is what he's been essentially

since he got benched or, since he lost his job last year, I'm hoping he ends up in Atlanta

or somewhere else.

That's what ideal ideal scenario.

He's just off the team and we can just kind of forget about him.

Why is it that there's an assistance that we treat Dylan Gabriel the same way we're

treating Shadour Sanders and to Sean Watson because he's a, he's a third round pick.

Is there something redeemable about in your eye?

There's no way there's something redeemable.

You're the guy that, and I was right there with you, but you're the guy in, in training

camp last year.

And why are you asking me this question?

If you know my answer, well, sometimes you got to ask the questions in order to get to

the answer in my own head, okay, in order to figure it out for myself.

The answer you're looking for is no, all right, no, ask the answer, I guess.

I like, no, I, although sarcastically, and I stress sarcastically, I, I have joked,

I'd rather watch Dylan Gabriel play quarterback for the Browns than to Sean Watson.

Well, and so that is part of this equation because you're not the only person that has

said that.

I got in a, not a fight, whatever it was with Nick Padone yesterday, because Nick was going

down the same thing that you're saying right now.

He was doing the anybody but to Sean category.

And it's like, I don't think you guys really believe it when you say anybody but to Sean,

because anybody but to Sean, if I, if I, if I ended up saying Dylan Gabriel, that

I clearly mean it because well, you know, but no, I don't think, listen, I just, I

don't think starting, starting quarterback is for Dylan Gabriel.

I think he can be a, a, a quality backup.

If you have to start him in a pinch or something like that, but you have to start him for

an extended time.

You're just asking for what you're about to get.

He's a good kid.

I, you know, I have nothing bad to say about him personally.

I have, you know, people thought I had like some axe to grind against him or whatever.

No, I just, I'm based on enough what I saw my own four eyes in training camp and the

all season program.

And that is they were treating this guy like he was a first round pick by giving him

these first team reps and preparing him to be a starter this year.

And I just couldn't take it seriously.

Yeah.

I couldn't either.

That was part of the problem.

And in the insistence that he was being so much better than should or Sanders, as you're

watching, as I'm watching, we're at training camp and watching none of this go well was

one of the more maddening exercises of my life.

I mean, there, there were drills where like he, he was struggling to complete passes on

it.

I know.

I was going on.

And again, Nick and I were at training camp watching him and I never forget it.

We were talking to Bernie Khozar.

And I was interrupted in the interview with Bernie because so many balls just kept hitting

the ground.

And it was like, I can't believe how many incomplete passes he's having against air in this

session.

And I wanted to not seem like the biggest hater in the building, but the reality was we

could only scream it so loud that he looked awful.

And I remember we had, we had my buddy Sean Salisbury on at one point and Sean knows quarterbacks

and Sean's, I mean, Sean taught me more about football than anybody in life, okay?

And so I really trust what Sean has to say.

And the only thing Sean could come up with in regards to Dylan Gabriel was that maybe

he's a gamer.

And I remember thinking about that and I really took that to heart, that idea of like maybe

he's just a gamer.

Maybe he's one of these guys that sucks it up in practice, but the lights go on and then

it's just a different story because Dylan Gabriel in college could play Darryl.

Yeah.

That's the thing.

He could play.

I don't know what you know how many quarterbacks that could play in college that just couldn't

do it.

I don't trust short quarterbacks is a big thing that I have.

I like high-smonger quarterbacks and they don't make it.

Of course there are.

Like it is part of it, but like and so, but if like there was a, there was a, there was

a segment of people that were holding on to that.

And by the time you get to that being how you rationalize that, you're so far up a creek,

you don't stand a chance.

Right.

Like when you're rationalizing the idea of what we're seeing in practice isn't real because

maybe he's a gamer, you've already lost the cause.

You're in a race, you're never going to win if that's your argument because all you're

trying to do is justify why it's not all adding up.

Yeah.

And I mean, I feel badly for Dylan in many ways.

I do wish he was at least here trying to put in some of the same work that that Chadoras

putting in, but I'm sure he sees that as a wasted effort.

I'm sure he sees that as a lost cause.

He'd rather work out with his own trainers in a YA with his own people and then whatever

future team he goes to, then he can go and try and impress them from there.

Yeah.

100%.

Yeah.

Then right now, I think Chador knows he has to impress Todd Munk and he has to impress

the front office.

He has to impress ownership based on what happened last year, right?

Not only going through the draft process, but also when he was buried fourth on the

depth chart and to show everyone that he's taken this thing seriously.

And I'm not saying he wasn't taking it seriously last year, but like he wasn't put in a position

to take it seriously last year either, right?

He was so down on the depth.

I mean, they were having them, they didn't even give them the courtesy of throwing to

wide receivers during training camp during the individual drills because they ran out

of those guys, okay?

He had to throw to the ballboys on air and coaches on air for his reps during those sessions.

So like I like the fact that he's been in the building a lot that he's trying to demonstrate

his commitment to this, unfortunately, because the rules prohibit it, you know, they can't

do a lot of football with him right now.

Todd Munkin can't hand him a playbook, can't talk football with him, okay?

You're just basically allowed to go in and say, hi, he can go to the weight room and work

out on his own or go to the indoor and work out on his own.

Like there's no coordination with the team allowed whatsoever and all that.

And I love that he's doing everything that he is and it's something with the Sean.

Like it was never, it's never an effort thing with the Sean.

It's never, you know, putting in the work thing with the Sean, not by any stretch of imagination.

Well, how much gas is left in that tank after that car has been smashed the bits over the

last couple of years and so, you know, when it comes to Gabriel, I just, you know, again,

I think he is a backup and the only reason I think that the Browns are talking about him

being in the competition, if you will, right, is they're just trying to be fair to this

kid.

You know, they're just being nice.

Yeah, they're just trying to be nice about it, but let's be honest about it.

This ultimately right now as we talk, it's a two man competition between the Sean Watson

and Chador Sanders and you flip a coin as to who's going to be QB one when this whole

offseason program stuff.