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SantiZap and SanchoWest revisit their Thanksgiving metaphor for Mania 42! And Sancho asks Santi about his fear for Jelly Roll vs Kit Wilson.
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thank you. And remember, wrestling is cool. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another
episode of the wrestling is cool podcast. I'm Santi. That's on show. We're on the road to
wrestle. Mania. We're on the road to Madison Square Garden. It feels like the buzz is in the air.
Sancho, before we like fully jump into our topic, Sancho, I wanted to kind of gauge your
temperature here because a couple of weeks ago, I always want to gauge you a couple of weeks ago,
you said this mania was dead in the water. You did. You did. I'm not clowning you for it. I'm not
clowning you for it. You said this mania was dead that you were not interested in this mania.
I'm curious since the last couple of weeks, since the Randy Orton heel turn, since the further
developments in the bloodline, since Obafemian Brock Lesnar, we've had more matches be announced.
What is your current feelings going into this mania? Because people are still in the comments saying
and Sancho said this mania was dead. So I want to give you the floor to either double down
or maybe give us some thoughts on how things have evolved for you.
No, this is not what I said. Some people don't understand what I'm trying to say.
I said, for them to build up that 19% to find that gap, to turn that all around,
I said the build for that is dead. The state of that is dead. The mania
story of what they're trying to tell where we were at at the time. Where were we at at the time,
Sancho? What was happening? I don't really remember. I think it was a elimination chamber had
just ended. Right. A chamber ended and it was the idea of, it was the idea of Cody looming.
Remember that that was the the cloud that was hanging over us is like, oh my god,
are they going to give the belt to Cody? And the idea for me was like, we were talking about
the panic button. What was the idea of this panic button that the WWE was going to press? What
were they going to do to turn it around? And for me, when I was feeling like this WrestleMania
and I said, not dead, I said it was awash. That somehow is worse. It's awash.
It's awash, meaning that I felt at the time that where the WWE's trajectory was going,
where they were so focused on how can we make up this 19% wasn't the right way to approach it.
And as time goes on, when I am realizing that the WWE has done and has really should focus on
as time going forward, is that they should trust their performers and trust their superstars
a little bit more. Like lean into the talent that you have and lean into the abilities that
now I think I figured it out. I was talking about the main card was so top heavy that we were
forgetting about the rest of the main card. And I feel that the WWE has done a great job,
especially SmackDown, focused on the rest of that card. Because remember, don't forget,
you and I were in the same boat. We were talking about the Thanksgiving dinner. We were talking
about the ham. We were talking about the turkey. And we were like, where's all the other fixants
that bring it about? And so yeah, don't put me alone in this boat. You know what I was saying?
I was out of the same boat as you. I don't smell the kitchen. The turkey doesn't smell right.
You were just sitting there. No, no, no, no, you said there was no main dish.
There was no story. And you were like, go, last year we had John Cena being healed. That was
the main thing that brought us to the table. And then in WrestleMania 40, we had Cody Rhodes trying
to finish his story. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. I literally give him the opportunity to
explain himself. And he's like, no, you did it. We're together. I'm like Drew McIntyre,
dig a butt too. I'm pulling you down. So I asked you, Sun Zee,
WrestleMania 42. What is the dish that is bringing us to the table, brother? By the way,
classic Sancho, you ask him a question, classic political Sancho, just like in the OBFME conversation.
I asked him a simple ask question. And he cannot answer it. He can't just answer a question.
I said the temperature for me is I'm happy that the WWE has put the the onus put some power back
into the superstars rather than scheming about how we're going to come up with this 19% rather than
focusing on the numbers, just focus on the talent you have. And you're going to be able to turn
things around. Now let's not get twisted. They've done a lot of sales. They've done a lot of
different things to be able to make up that difference. But I'm excited that they put the power
back into the superstars. That's my run for office. Run for office. You say so much with saying
nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just say, yeah, I think I'm more excited about WrestleMania now.
Or no, I'm doubling down. What a simple question that I asked that Sancho just cannot answer.
Would I make multiple videos more so than I ever have in my wrestling YouTube channel?
Sancho was wrestling. If I wasn't excited, Tunti. Just say so. Just say so.
I don't know what I mean. Whatever it is that you're drinking right now. I'm going to answer
your question. What I think is the is the meat, the turkey. This is interesting, Sancho,
because I still don't see Roman and Cody, sorry, Cody and Randy or Roman and punk as like Turkey.
Like, this is what I'm showing up for. It's fascinating because I think this year I'm showing
up for almost like the post dinner. What's going to happen because of Randy versus Cody?
The dessert? Yeah. Am I tuning in for a potential double turn? What am I tuning in for Roman and
punk? Am I tuning in for the bloodline reunion, for the rock to show up? You see what I mean?
Like, I'm more excited about the prospect of things that can happen within the match.
Then I am currently for the current builds of the match. Mind you, we're recording this and
there's still about four episodes of Ross and Smackdowns left to fill in those gaps. But right
now, my excitement for the main, main events or for the things that could happen as a byproduct
of the matches. Okay. Now, for me, was I wrong to feel that it was a wash at the time?
Yeah, because you made you call it a wash, like, like, like,
freaking six months before the show even started. I called it after chamber. I don't think anything
at chamber got me excited for Mania. Oh, no, that's fair. I would echo that. I don't think
anything at chamber was like anything at rumble got me excited for Mania either.
And those are the two catalysts, pay per views, PLEs, whatever you want to call it. Those are
part of the big four. Well, chamber was like five ish, sixes with and money in the bank. But those
are the big needle mover story point milestone launch pad, whatever you want to call it,
chapter closing into like PLEs these days. Don't get me excited for main event,
wrestle mania. What's getting me excited is the weekly television that they're actually doing
some great story beats and there are a lot of nuance behind it. But did Oba Brock excitement
happen at rumble? At rumble? Yeah, rumble. And rumble, no, but it started the conversation
of what people wanted to get excited at chamber chamber kind of did Roman and CM Punk kind of got
as excited with Roman winning the right rumble. I mean, the next day they cut like a fantastic
promo. So yes, but that's that said at rumble. I mean, what do you want to happen? Like, you
want to go out there and promote what you are right after the rumble? Roya rumble and chamber to be
great. I don't know. All I'm saying is that I think this is a sneaky wrestle mania build that
I'm enjoying the build to everything that they're building. But I will continue to echo the thanks
giving analogy that we've done where like I'm kind of like tuning in for everything except the
turkey right now. I just I don't think the football game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the main events
have me have me intrigued have me intrigued not for the match or even the build right now they
have me intrigued for the byproducts of what could happen from the matches. Is that a WWE thing,
though? I mean, I think it almost is by design. If you look at Roman and punk, the and we'll talk
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it is entirely leaning. It's like they've chosen for some reason or another, for better or for
worse, to not lean in on their pass and get personal. It's like they were going that route and they're
like, we're going to go down the road of the bloodline and bloodline narrative and drama with
J.U. So is he the tribal chief? Is he commanding Roman? Is the rock going to come back? We're
putting him in the back of shots involving the bloodline. It's very clear that it seems very
intentional that they want you to tune in for things that could happen as a byproduct of the
bloodline narrative as opposed to tune in because of the relationship between punk and Roman reigns.
That's my current interpretation and the reason I'm excited for that match, which again,
goes to what I was saying. I think the excitement of that match will be once the match ends and
what happens at the ending of it. But you can't have two the same type of personal stories on
two sides of the coin because that's what you're going to get with rainy and goady. You're going to
get that personal story. You're going to get, you're going to get their pass. I mean, you're not
going to get to deviate to junior, but you're going to get both. Why can't you, why can't they both
be personal? Because it's the same kind of flavor. It's the same kind of flavor. Why can't we have a
world building bloodline, CM Punk going out to building out to the possible of the rock and I'm not
talking about match involvement, but it grows out and expands to that much. And then you have
something small and intimate like Randy and Cody, like, why can't we have, it's like we're the same
kind of restaurant, but at one point we have this big commercial factory. Another one we have a
small intimate space between the two. Little flavors, little flavor profiles. Well, I would think that
the flavor profiles, that's our, that's our undercard and all of the different things that we can
have in the undercard. Listen, I'm not even saying that you're wrong. I'm just, I'm just asking why we
they can't both be personal bloodfews. I think they absolutely could have been, heck, they started
as such. That's how they, they were initially leaning towards Roman and Punk and they, and they
moved away from that to just becoming, are we going to masterfully rage, rage bait each other?
Which I just don't find as, as interesting as it could have been. Had they gotten a lot more
personal and focused on their relationship with one another? I'm on that coin. I am, I'm enjoying
the mind games between the two because I do feel that there is a purpose behind it. It's a, it's a
purpose that will lead to greater jumping points or branching roots or whatever you want to call it
that I think it would lead to greater things for both C and Punk and Roman rather than having it
just be a personal feud. If you bring in multiple of these facets of attributes, if you bring in
characters like Jay, Jimmy, even Rocky, even he's an ominous type of figure, you could do greater
things with it than just, hey, this is a feud between C and Punk and Roman because can C and Punk
and Roman deliver a, an action pack fight in a ring that's exciting with false finishes left and
right? No, because we all know it's going to be, it's going to be a Roman type match where it's
going to be slow at the beginning, shenanigans the second half and who's going to withstand the
shenanigans. I'm excited for that reason and I think that's where we were at here. I'm excited
for the possibilities like there's a lot of open space to play with Roman and C and Punk whereas
I think you, are you looking for a more conclusive, more definitive ending between those two?
I wouldn't mind that because we're talking about a part-time Roman reigns, right? So to not do
something definitive means that we then need to run it back but then we wouldn't be able to run
it back for half a year when Roman decides to show up. If I had more confidence that's like,
okay, at backlash, we could actually get the follow-up to that, then yeah, I'd be a lot more
open to the idea of it being an open-ended saga, right? That could give us the next spot but
I don't see that from Roman and Punk. I see it far more with Randy and Cody.
Can I help you with the Roman and Punk thing?
Right now what I'm seeing is, hey, you're old and then the next week, I'm going to spend 10 minutes
telling you why it didn't hurt my feelings that I'm old. That was the most insecure sounding
promo from CM Punk that I've ever heard. Being old is great. Am I right, fellas? Look at us being
old and cool. Hey, this guy can't keep playing and most of you don't even know anything about
he's old. That dude, he's old and he was cool. Okay, young powder one, coming from the older guy here.
Let me break it down, dude. This is the mind games that they're playing, okay? Roman's already told
CM Punk there's nothing you can do that you can phase me, right? You can't get to me about dead,
that thing. I know I made a video about this and I know you watched this part but let me break it
down a little bit faster. So essentially CM Punk knows that what's what's Roman's weakness. If
CM Punk said my job is again the head of my opponents to able to help me win. That's what I've
always been doing. That's why you cheer for me. He knows that Roman reigns weakness is his family.
That's the one weakness that he has and the bloodline will be the thing that will slowly rip a
part Roman reigns from the inside because the things are different. Jay Uso's not just like just a
soldier. Jimmy's not a soldier. They're both now have their own type of personalities and they're
slowly grown out. Even Sola Sakao, Jacob a two. Roman reigns is not at his optimal strength. He's
already been told that you're alone. There's no one behind you. There's no one beside you and that
in fact the end of the day you can get buried in the dirt with your dead dad. That is what CM Punk
is trying to tell Roman the mind games is like you can't do anything. In fact any bloodline member
can't do anything without someone else. They're back up. So that's going to make Roman go hey,
I don't want Jimmy and Jay's help, right? He's already said that to Roman. He said that to Jimmy. He
goes Roman says respectfully get out of my ring, which we love to come on brother. I love that
bloodline drama that stuff that always works for me when Roman tries to put his family in place.
And then now Jimmy and Jay, I mean, Jay is going to Jimmy's his brothers keeper. Like I said,
and he's the protector of all the family and he tries to keep the peace. But Jay now is unhinged,
right? Unhinged Jay Uso. Warpath Jay Uso is what Jimmy said for the third time in the last 12
months. Hopefully they actually. Nine months ago, I've said that it'd be great if Jay Uso took
over as a troubleshoot because more importantly, he's there all the time. And that would be fine
if you want to keep the bloodline blood going, you want that story pumping. So the difference is
this time around Roman again ripped the part by his family trying to be like because there's a way
saunty that at the end of the day, Roman Reigns could maintain the babyface status. Believe it or not.
At the end of Mania, you said, what are you going to look forward to after post-match,
the end of Mania, Roman Reigns could still be your babyface. And how we get there is this.
So Jay Uso tells Roman, you know what you have to do. His the job is the trouble chief that was
besotted him by the elders is to take care of his family, right? You need to take care of business.
Roman didn't want to do that. He was like, I don't want to put my hands on CM Punk,
because he knows Roman knows it's a mind game. Roman's like, all right, I got this. I don't want to
be tricked by a CM Punk. I don't want to fall for a strap. But because his family pushes him to keep
the family honor and keeps pushing him. Jay pushed him, pushed him, pushed him. And Roman had no
choice but to deliver. He snaps into it and takes out CM Punk powerbombs and CM Punk laughs it off
like the Joker saying like, I got you this whole time. I tricked you. I now know I'm in your head
and I understand your weakness. It has been confirmed that the bloodlines your weakness. So now Roman
post could go, hey man, Jimmy and Jay stay out of my business. Jay, you're not in my ear. You're not
my trouble chief. I'm the trouble chief. Listen to me, right? And then now we have friction between Jay
and Roman on a higher level. How does Roman become a babyface at the end of the day?
All this is happening. And guess who's watching as the the man on the in the sky, the overseer,
the ominous final boss watching all this go down from his Moana live trailer, which I dig,
right? I like Moana. I'm excited. So we get to that point of now the final boss is hearing all
these rumblings of CM Punk a little peon is messing around with down there and he has to come down
to earth to see what's going on. Dude, the past kind of relationship of Roman and rock always
fascinated me and rock definitely is the big brother to Roman and he little brothers Roman when
he first showed back up as the final boss. And now he went from, oh, these are the bloodline
sevenths. No, no, these are the rock segments. And we're just here to enjoy the ride. And then we
remember we had that great moment of rock was about to cut his promo. If you smell and then Roman
stops them, you're like, oh shit, here we go. This is different. And then rock ends up acknowledging
Roman. So rock could go come down. Be like, what's wrong with you? You can't handle CM Punk.
What's your deal? And so if CM Punk ends up beating Roman at Mania, one on one, Mano and Mano,
this for sure. If you're betting March Madness, you should be doing it at my bookie.
This is the best betting stretch of the year. Upsets, buzzer beaters. And if you're going to take
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Expecting the family, the bloodline doesn't uphold his end of the deal who could show up and say,
hey, you are no longer the tribal chief because you didn't beat CM Punk who disrespected our family,
who went to your face and disrespected Jimmy, JNU, and you still lost Emeania?
Who could do that? Who could show up when Roman's beaten down the rock? And now
we're on a way to rock and Roman in the next mania, right? Exactly. Okay, okay. I want to
stop you here for a second. It's good. It's just good because it's a part-time attraction
that could eventually grow and build in the background and then ramp up when Mania starts.
Okay, that's a way if you have a part-time or have them go up against a part-time,
we're going to the rock. Okay, I was bored by 90% of what you said,
not your delivery or anything. I'm talking like the story. I'm like, this is just not interesting.
And until you said the rock and that goes to what my initial problem was that I mentioned,
which was, I'm excited for this. I am. I know I'm sounding really critical, but I'm critical
of the things that I love. My excitement of this still hinges on the thing that could happen
right now. The excitement of this almost hinges after WrestleMania. What does Jay look like
after WrestleMania? Because he's the one that's there full-time when Roman's gone. Are we going to see
tribal chief J. Uso? Are we going to set up the rock versus Roman after WrestleMania?
And that's great. I'm on board to get excited for post-resolmanian stuff.
And I don't want to say the dreaded name of WrestleMania 27, but I will. But unfortunately,
that was that's very WrestleMania 27-ish, where like, I'm not excited at all for the Miz and
John Cena, but I'm excited about what the rock might do and create post-resolmania,
which created once in a lifetime, one of the most iconic WrestleMania builds of all time.
Here, post is in the air.
Well, that was so good. We might get hit with copyright. But no one was excited for the Miz and
John Cena, right? People were excited for the prospect of what could happen at the show with
the rock and John Cena. This is not on the same level as that, like because I am still very
much excited for Roman and punk. I think my concern as a fan is, wow, is the big excitement of
this, really the post-mania implications as opposed to the actual main event of the show?
That's all, I'm kind of like poking at, like, okay, if that's the case, fine,
but then the post-resolmanian stuff better be frickin' incredible.
You see what I'm gonna say?
I see what you're coming from. I'm excited as well. And I said in the video that I made,
is that every character is slotted into where they belong. And I think everyone is performing
optimally right now. And when you have like a chemistry formula, it's like they're all the
ingredients are there for a potential banger of a match. The CM Punk's at his best when he's
going up against the powerhouse authority. And the bloodline is the authority because they have
the rock in their corner in their back pocket. And I know you may be listening or watching saying,
I'm annoyed with these guys talking about the prospect of the rock. He's not coming back.
He didn't come back last year. I think the rock didn't come back last years because the whole
Travis Scott thing fizzled. Like if Travis Scott and at the rock, if you are a professional wrestler
and it's in your lifeblood and you saw Travis Scott and you're like, okay, you're telling me
creative wants me to have a match with Travis Scott and a tag match, whatever. And I'm gonna be
in Travis Scott and I'm gonna be a tag team partner. And I look at Travis Scott and immediately go,
this guy doesn't have it or doesn't have the care. Or doesn't care.
Doesn't care. Right. I think it doesn't have the passion, just the word I was looking for.
Doesn't have the passion. I'm not tying myself to this boat. I'm out.
Sorry, rock. Sorry, Cena. Sorry, Cody. The rock ain't gonna play.
Which sucks, right? Which really does suck. But if the rock who's always wanted Roman at Mania,
you've wanted this a long time. If the WWE was like, we could give you Roman at Mania,
but you have to commit to these certain steps. And if the certain steps only involved him appearing
at Mania and then non-appearing to, you know, WrestleMania season X season, I think he could commit
to that bottom line just to wrap this like to put a bow on it. CM Punk, Jimmy, Jay, and Roman are
all capable of carrying this to Mania on their own. But if they threw in a little spice, it couldn't
even be a social post from the rock. Talking about CM Punk or just the rock in an interview so
you feel better watch out just like that. That's enough to add this up to a whole new layer of,
there's much more to this. And that's what gets me excited. Now, Rainy and Cody on the other end,
I think we're just getting started with that. And I am excited for that potential in terms of
a personal story. Yes. But I feel that one has a lot more landmines. It is not as clear as
CM Punk and Roman where they're both either you'd like CM Punk or you're like Roman. This one is,
this one's tough, man. You're going to have to navigate this one a lot easier, a lot more
expertly when it comes to Cody Roads and Randy Orton. We'll get there in just a second. But
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Do you got any like like pay-per-view VHSs yet?
Oh, no, like the rest of WWE. Yeah. I thought about it. There is a guy. There's a place in Texas
here. And he has like an abandoned, not a band-in, but it feels like an abandoned video store.
We're talking about it's his collection, but it just imagined someone's collection at the size of
a video store. Right. But like stacks of videos just everywhere, right? It is a hoarder's paradise.
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PLE stuff like Summerslam, WWF, Russell Man, you know, I'm like Summerslam 92.
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this week. I found one of the Holy Grails and I was mad I found it because like, okay, now
I have to say. Did you just clear out your stuff? Yeah, WWE memorabilia, but like not my GameCube
collection. I found one of the Holy, yeah, the Fire Emblem Path of Radiance. It is, it is a very,
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The switch to GameCube store digitally, but it's still a nasty, expensive game, unfortunately.
Path of Radiance. Path of Radiance. Path of Radiance on GameCube.
On GameCube, yeah. Yeah, I'm curious what it is. Do you just
I got a complete in box. All right, complete in box.
You're like, you're talking north of 200 bucks. Yeah, for that one game, man.
That's been I spend like that much on on a game. Yeah, but like it's a game I'm probably
not going to play. He just wanted it on the for the GameCube collection. Maybe eventually,
I will play it, but if I play it, I'll play it on the switch too, just so I can have like digital
saves and stuff. Are you trying to get a complete set of GameCube collection? I'm trying. Yeah.
That's the top once again, a complete. I know. I know. It's years. It's going to be years of
collecting, but slowly, but surely not bad. Corned price charts, 222, not bad. I mean,
the thing about it, the bright, the box itself, 56 bucks, just the cart. Dude, the box that I
have is pristine. They never played this thing. It was. Are you ready? I'm my guy should get
it graded, but then it doesn't look good in my collection. You know, I mean, because I don't know,
dude, graded price, $619. I should. Maybe I should. I'm not in it for the price. I'm not here
to make money. I am here. Why not? You can put it around your neck and then when you bring a big
game to you. Yeah, dude. What are you? Do you date you? I'm on. Dude, we're on the next wait. No,
you tried to let I get what you're trying to do. What am I trying to do? For the people
of rest of the school, Sonny tried to put me in the hot seat right away. You know what he does.
This man, when he puts me in a hot seat, that means one thing and one thing only I've known this
man for years. Hell, I hang out with him every Tuesday as much as longer than my wife and kids.
My wife. My wife. You are afraid, sir. You are scared. You are fearful. You got swept
between the crack of your ass because there's one man. Two words. Jelly Roll is about to jump off
the top rope this Friday. You thought you had time. You sat there like, oh, well, he hasn't
toured with Post Malone. There's no way he's going to fear that media. Whoa. Lo and behold,
Jelly Roll pops up not only on WWE button TNA with AJ friends. Oh my god. AJ's going to put me
into as well. Then you start sweating and then lo and behold, Jelly Roll comes out and tries to
help out Rainy. You are like, come on, Randy. Randy, you and I, man, I'm not trying to talk to you.
The rest of them trying to talk to you. The husband love and you're like, oh, no, here comes you
start sweat. And then what do they do? So either WWE, they put it. Get well, son and jelly roll
on the ring together to do a poetry slam segment. Then Jelly Roll goes, oh, just go ahead and ask
your mom because I put my bell on her back. And then here we are. Jelly Roll versus kit will
send this Friday up on the rooftop. Jelly Roll climbs jumping off the top rope into the splash
Income, Santi with the bottle of oil, squirt, squirt, squirt.
What kind of oil you got? Coconut, uh, synthetic. Or are you going to go all natural
round, brother? I tell me the truth right now. Have you oiled up the practice? Come on. I know
I have not done a stunt to oil up for breakfast. No, I haven't. You have no
mirror. You wait, what are you like? Hold on, am I going to do it like this or maybe like that?
These are going to be a circular motion. Is it going to be horizontal side? Are you going to do that?
You should just recreate the biggie gift. You know, that's exactly what I'm picturing the biggie
gift. Except I'm nowhere near as in shape as biggie. Listen, this is, this is my pulley, my
message in a bottle. And I don't think it's impossible because of the very clear, you know, hey,
I'm the angel on your shoulder of Randy Orton. Randy, please punt the fuck out of jelly roll
before the match. Before the match, please punt that man into the sky.
Please, please, I don't think it's off the table that that could happen even before the match to
write off jelly for a while. Randy, please punt jelly roll. It's the next thing. They set up jelly
roll to be the sacrificial lamb. The Randy your husband. You're such a good guy. This,
that and the other, punt them. Punt that man and save me, Randy. Punt that man and save me from
this oiling. Here's the thing. Even if he doesn't get punted, I still don't think it happens on
Smackdown because I do think that there is a bigger match in play here, whether it's WrestleMania
or maybe a further PLE. I think he's going to save the jumping up the top rope for a bigger show.
It can't be on Smackdown. Jelly, please don't, if you're going to make me oil up, do it on,
do it on a paid show. Do it on a paid show where then I can talk about it in the Patreon review
for the PLE and at least make a couple dollars here or there. Jelly, don't do this on an episode
of Smackdown. I'm going to review the Smackdown on the Patreon. Please, Randy, punt jelly roll.
For me, you're a dog. You follow me on Twitter, Randy. I know you want to show.
Twitter right now. Don't be a punk. Twitter right now.
Dot at ready, or please for the love of God. I'm literally going to tweet that right now.
All right, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Not that you can see because you're still blocked on Twitter
jump. Hey, Randy Orton, please punt at jelly roll before his match this Friday.
You're like, Roman Raids. Hold it up to the camera. This is your call.
Please, Randy. You're the voice in the head.
That's it. The calls have been with me.
Well, let's talk about that. Do you like the theory that he's just this is fight club and he's
just talking to himself? Yeah, we talked about last week. If they have the the cinematic gall to pull
that off, I mean, they totally can. It could be as just as simple as someone picks up the phone
and be like, there's no one there or you know, Arcturus saying like he's talking in. There's no one
on the other line. Sure. Why not at least make it different because rainy clear as day has really
no real motivation in turning heel except that this is how I win championships. So if you want to add
a little layer to it, be sure. We've already tried to see it with Bailey and Bailey didn't work out.
And I called that like as soon as I saw that, I was like this whole mind shift split, whatever
is going to happen is not going to work for Bailey because it just the WWE doesn't have
the attention span and the patience to pull it off organically to where it doesn't feel like
it's all slapstick where it's not like gold doesn't Tourette's. Well, Randy Wharton, I think they
are patient enough to do it. And I think that they are willing to see what Randy could do because
as you can see, Randy who cut a promo on SmackDown, he went into that dark place that you saw in
the documentary where he's like turning all red and everything's like, yeah, there it is, the
intensity. And it's so funny to me that what Randy Wharton's doing is crazy beating up Matt
Cardona calling him a Marquastouge and an indie nerd that they added everything out of all the
cheers that we gave Randy Wharton. Like they, I kid you not something. I might be crazy. I don't
know if you were paying attention to him yet because sometimes I do not have been yet in terms of
I'm not like watching intently. I just have it on just to listen to. But I think they piped in
booze for Randy Wharton. Oh, I'm a million percent. The Monday night, we're all like recap that they
did. Those were a million percent piped in booze. There was not a soul booing. Dude, that brings
up a really interesting point. And I think you kind of alluded to it when you say, you know,
there's some landmines here that they could step on. And I do want to explore a couple of those.
One of the like, you know, there's some landmines that people can't see. But then there's a
landmine that is dog. This isn't a landmine. This is an intergalactic missile that's coming towards
Cody Rhodes right now that I can see from light years away that I have no idea how WWE is going to stop.
What in the world are you going to do with Cody and Randy in St. Louis? Because that is the
smackdown a couple of weeks before WrestleMania. That, that could set the pace for what the
go home crowd is going to feel about Cody. And then the WrestleMania crowd is going to feel
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for this main event and for what WWE wants to do with Cody Rhodes and Randy Orden. North Carolina,
they they just chose to not boo Randy and I don't think that the next crowd and I think it's
Pittsburgh. I don't think they're going to boo Randy either. If they can't find a way to get
Randy get to get booed before St. Louis. St. Louis is going to ruin any plans of having Randy B,
the evil maniacal bad guy that gets booed by crowds. They need to find something between now and
the April 3rd show, which is literally just the Pittsburgh show. If they cannot figure it out in
Pittsburgh, the St. Louis crowd will dictate the pace of the crowds moving forward for WrestleMania
and they will be marked my words all pro Randy Orden for better or for worse.
Sancho, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. That could create a really really fun atmosphere.
You know, it's not the worst to have the baby phase B, the most hated guy in the building. We saw
with Rock and Hogan, right? Like that was nostalgia took over and this could be a situation here as
well where the nostalgia of Randy Orden is just too powerful, too strong and people want to see
Randy Orden win 15. Maybe that's going to be the case and it can still create something special.
But more often than not, when the dynamics are this off, with a baby phase in a heel,
it doesn't lead to great things. I do think we're dealing with performers that can make it great,
but I'm just saying historically, it doesn't end very well or very satisfactory for the fans.
I see what you're saying, but I think we're discounting the magic of Cody Rhodes.
And I know that may feel like I'm a Cody lover or I'm a Cody crybaby.
No, I know what you're talking about. He has the ability to to win
crowds over at this time of the year. Oh, yeah, he could walk into the lines then and be like,
I know, though, fifth buff, ain't Louis, what do you want to talk about?
He could do that. And I know really have to give him the list on both asses in St. Louis,
St. Louis. They're going to, they're going to boo him like a lot. And he's like, yeah,
I know you want to boo me. I know Randy's your favorite. And he's your hometown guy, you know,
he could lean into that. And he does such a good job of exorbing booze and then just
and then getting cheers out the door. I mean, I know in London, he took the easy route and be like,
well, what if we had a mania here? And then we're like, yeah, we love you, Cody.
So we'll see what they do. But I am in beliefs that the WWE does trust Cody to turn
that around. And I think they'll, there I say they'll send his ass out there. Like we're out
to rip, like we're out to rip and smack now. Like sure, like I think if they were to do that,
that'd be huge for Cody. If he, if Cody has to go out first, you know what I'm saying? He can't
let Randy go out first because Randy will then get all those cheers and those acceptance. And
then how can you come back from that? Whereas the other way you have people go, oh, I sympathize,
Rick Cody. Yeah. I get what you're saying that Cody has that ability. I also was very optimistic
and was telling people, hey, like, give Randy the benefit of the doubt. He's one of the greatest
heels in this business. He can get people to hate him. Sure. And then he wasn't able to in this
episode. And he tried. He really did try. Oh, yeah. Which that's to me, one of the, the
canary in the coal mines. We haven't used that analogy. You know, while we used to, we used to
be killing canaries and coal mines all the time here. Sancho on the wrestling school podcast.
But I do think it's time to bring out the canary in the coal mine because Randy is very good at
being a heel. He is a professional heel for higher in the WWE. And he was not able to get a single
boo from that crowd. And here's the thing, Sancho, WWE showed their hand. They showed their hand
that they want him to get booed by giving us the piped in booze in those vignettes in those
promos. So clearly, it's not going the way that they wanted to, which has me more concern because
if this is part of the show, it's all part of the plan. Are you enjoying the show? Then I'm like,
okay, what are we doing with this at WrestleMania with this change in dynamic and crowd? But WWE
is doing WWE things in trying to control the narrative of what people at home are supposed to
perceive this feud as who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. But Sancho, you and I both agree
there was not a single soul booing Randy Orton. But the fact that they piped in those booze,
I think I think says a lot like I think there's an entire essay that I could write about what that
means for WWE and what they want out of these characters going into WrestleMania. And again,
I see St. Louis in the not too distant future. And if they're piping in booze to make you pretend
like Randy has hated and they're about to run into St. Louis, a crowd that's going to go
absolutely betcha maniacally over on Randy Orton. We got a problem. I do think we got a problem.
And they cut out the one more time. Yeah, you put more of a card number out.
I still want to push back on people saying like Matt Cardona, all you came back and look at you,
it was like dude, Matt Cardona is like, yeah, I worked with Randy Orton again.
Yeah, made a segment of Smackdown. Yeah, he's just eight.
Those sign photos are going to get kicked up another five to 10 20 books.
What you're going to say a little bit more like five, 600 bucks, five 20 bucks.
Hey, hey man, price is hard these days, you know.
Good inflation, shrinklation, stagflation, all the flations are happening right now.
And that right there is a proper recession indicator. Matt Cardona photos going up by five dollars.
Not only that, dude, it's sad to say, you know, if it games a little of a thousand employees,
right there, Fortnite was not as recession proof as we thought. I thought Fortnite was untouchable
in a recession, man. Ah, you fell into my trap. Stone Cold, Steve Austin, and live Morgan,
maybe coming to Fortnite, baby. Oh, can you imagine Stone Cold, Steve Austin putting together
two truck splashes and going, you know, I'm excited to be so sick. Come on,
Tanti, people have asked me every time I play Fortnite. Oh, why don't you play with
Santi? Kid Santi? Santi, did you play for it? When you come on, dude,
don't you want to ride the wave? You don't want to have to carry me, man. I haven't played
a BR in so long. The Morgan goes watch me. Oh, I was your email. Come on, dude, you know,
you want to do it. That's going to be a sitcom. What a strange pairing, though, in my opinion,
though, if you really think it's Stone Cold and live. Yeah, it wasn't the, it wasn't one of the
pairings that they released Becky Lynch and Cena. That's pretty awkward. No, they had Becky and Bianca
as a pairing. And then it was Cena as a standalone. Well, they came out like around the same time,
and then there was Taker and Cody weren't a pairing, which is sick. Strange it itself, sick it,
Cody Rose. What about L.A. Knight? Is he in Fortnite or he can't even get on that either?
Can't get on the Vadea card. He's probably going to be a special guest referee. His job is just
now helping out the Usos. He's doing nothing, man. Can't get on Fortnite. Can't get on Mania.
What is this dude's WrestleMania plan, man? Is he just out there going to be rooting for Jay?
Is he just going to be Yeetan from the crowd? Yeetan Yeetan? What's he doing, man? What is your boy
up to? And I don't want to hear, it's just money in the bank. We're just waiting for money in the
bank. You know that that's just wishful-ass thinking. He ain't going to win anything at money in the
bank. He isn't going to win King of the Ring. You know that ship is sailed, but WrestleMania is
around the corner. And now, you know, I'll put you on the spot in Sancio. Give me an answer.
Don't give me your political ass answers of no answers and just around about way. Tell me what
you think L.A. Knight is actually going to be doing at WrestleMania.
You know, great question, Sancio. When I think about L.A. Knight,
it's like 4th and 50 right now, brother. Okay? There's not a lot of not-office, you know.
But David, we're going to light up anyway. You know what I'm saying? We're going to lose, but you
know, let me get first out. Getting first out of your Saudi is winning. Do you understand? Okay,
we, we are winning. Here's my plan. First out on 4th and 50.
Is this the same place? It's going ahead, man. At this point, this is more, this is just more
support center for you than it is a safe place. Hey, how's it going to me? Oh, it's you,
Sancio about L.A. Knight. Here's the play that I see that it would work for me, considering
you have the vision still involved. He's still involved with the Usos. I do see
world. Walk with me here, pack a lunch, put down the phone, no scrolling. I do.
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Right. You have the vision going to Mania to take the belts and they were going to face
jelly roll and a superstar of his choosing for the titles. I think that would be a great match.
And I know that means the titles are slipping further and further down, but whatever, jelly roll
will be your new tag team champion. Hear me out. I'm up there. Okay. I'm up there. Wait,
where the hell is this ghost? Quiet. Okay. That freeze that freeze up. It's fourth and 50. It's
like a flea flicker. It's calm down. Place that over yet. There's more. L.A. Knight will then have a
one-on-one L.A. Knight versus J. Uso at Mania. Yeah, versus eat. Finally happens. I don't mind it.
You get an unhinged J. Uso. He's going to be the clear heal in that fight. You get L.A. Knight.
Oh, and then if L.A. Knight wins, it would be because the shenanigans with Jimmy. And that's fine.
That protects J and L.A. Knight and Jimmy. If J wins, it's because of Jimmy and go heal. And then
you have J over L.A. Knight. It doesn't matter. We still get the progression of J. Uso being unhinged.
And then it will lead into whatever program with CM Punk and Roman. So it's like a, it's there
in a little canary in their coal mine. Whatever happens with J. Uso and L.A. Knight will have a fallout
in Roman and CM Punk later that night. In my opinion, I just feel, yeah, it always feels weird
that L.A. Knight is always the third chair when it comes to J. Uso and Jimmy and then the vision and
this and that. But if L.A. Knight accidentally causes the vision, winning who knows, they could
have some friction going on there. But at the same time, at least we get a, so I think a great
match between J and L.A. Knight. Yeah, here comes the comments. I'm going to be a budget man. Did you say
a great match between J. Uso and L.A. Knight? Yes, a great match. L.A. Knight could get a great
match out of most people. Don't do that to me. A great match between L.A. Knight and J. Uso.
Buddy, I can already picture it. All right. You got J. Uso about to go for the spear.
He falls. He falls. And then L.A. Knight puts on the top rope. L.A. Knight goes to jump up to the
top rope catches his nuts right in the ropes right there. And it's just going to be a bot filled.
Yeah, yeet fest. You know how it's going to be, Sancho. There's nothing good from an
in-ring perspective that we're going to get out of L.A. Knight and J. Uso. Be real. I know you're coping.
I know it's fourth and 50, but be realistic. You basically just said, hey, I know it's fourth
and 50. Let's run it up the gut. You ain't getting any hurt to win that idea.
Yeah. The cutie draw play. Yeah. Dude, you kneeled the ball. You kneeled the ball.
Brother, I do. Dude, there were some things there for when when first J,
and to clarify, I do think that's going to be the match. I do think you're right.
Because they already have the whole thing, you know, L.A. Knight telling J.
Hey, you're sounding like Roman. And then Jimmy, you know, they have that side eye and then
you have the rock in the background. What I want to make is there was something there when
L.A. Knight and J were first going back and forth and then they became a tag team.
That there were some good things. And then of course, the whole back and forth. Yeah. Yeet.
Yeah. Yeet. It's going to be a fun match. It's not going to seal the night, but it's going to
ain't going to be like, all right, time to go get refreshments type of a situation. Yeah,
versus yeet, I think their promos would be fun. And at the same time, L.A. Knight has fun with
the bloodline. You know, he did the whole thing about. Let's say you're at WrestleMania, right?
You you paid all this money to be at WrestleMania. Or is it Vegas? Okay. So where am I staying?
Where am I staying? I'm staying on the strip off the strip. You're at the flamingo. You're at the
flamingo hotel. Okay. Flamingo pretty close by. Did I over there or did I walk there to try to
save money? You ubered. You've ubered there. Okay. Okay. Okay. You're ubered there. It's important.
And I don't actually be important for this question. You've paid an arm and a leg to get into
the stadium. J.U. So there. Yes. Yes. J.U. So versus L.A. Knight is about to start. But you
realize because Vegas is so hectic that you haven't had a chance to eat. You see that there is no
line at the food at any of the food stands within the stadium. Have they walked in or not?
Have they walked in? Has J's entrance happened yet? They are about to ring the bell.
You see that there is no line at any of the food places and you are starving. Do you choose a
succulent hot dog or L.A. Knight versus J.U. So and after this match, the lines go back to being
40 minutes long. You're taking the match or the hot dog?
Taking the match. No, that's a lie. You're going to take that hot dog because you know
want to miss any other match. You understand I can. You will suffer hungry. I would. I can't. Do
you understand? You know when people come up to me and shout out to the people I met at the
arcade there as a guy his name is Sir Colton. I think his name was Colton. Nice guy came up to
me. He's like a big fan of you. And you know, I don't know what I say thank you. But then my
fall is usually like, hey, salty sucks. Right? Don't know why they laugh about it and they have a
good time. But you know, they appreciate. Shout out to you. And he respected that I was with my
kids. But I don't think anyway. Look, they always come up to me like, hey, man, don't worry, L.A. Knight.
L.A. Knight is going to come around everybody. Everybody. They tell me this. Okay. There was an
indie wrestler at AEW name was Travis. He's like, hey, man, love your stuff. But hey, don't worry,
man, L.A. Knight, man, L.A. Knight. He's going to come around. So I have to keep on keep on trucking.
You understand? I will go keep on keep on keep on moving through through the night. Yes,
Brady bunch. But yes, I'm going to go for go the glizzy. All right. I can't be like you just
because when you go to the stadium, you get stopped every two minutes. You can't even go to the
bathroom. It's true. To the point where security goes, oh, are you famous enough? And you're like
suffering from success, suffering from success and then you you don't even take pictures.
You're like, you're like chaperone, you know, like, oh, no, no, no pictures. I don't want this.
I take two pictures. Oh, no, no, I heard the stories. I heard the stories. Soon,
you're going to have a bodyguard when you go to shows. That's what you're going to be you.
Dude, I'm going to do the Jack D'Arty. I'm going to just I'm going to arrange people in the
and to fighting my giant bodyguard. It's broke. It's going to walk like this. It'd be
boy's your walking through. Oh, wow, dude, content these days. But yes, dude, I have to be there
for my boy a late night. You know why? Because when he reached his to the top, when he's climbing
that metal rung that fireball, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, one by one, bop, bop, bop, bop,
he's dangling dangling with that little cabbina up there. You know what I mean? The little thing
that little little clip, you know, he's out there dangling that little clip and he pulls
off that briefcase. I will sit there and go, yes, it was all worth it.
The three years of agony though, good things come to those that way. I'll believe it when
I see it, my friend. I'm out of the best for you. Am I going to find out what LNI wins
a championship or LNI wins the money? No, no, he has to win a championship. He has to
win a championship. Yeah, we don't, we don't celebrate money in the bank. Is it a guaranteed?
No, dude, with LNI, no, he is like 50, 50, and you know it. He could be like awesome
theory here. And then go for the United States title and get out of here. No, in LNI, he'll
go down to NXT and cash in on the North American title. All right. That's how little I think
of WWE's booking of LNI that even if you were to win something big, I'd find I believe
that they would screw it up. Cash it in on the speed championship.
He loses because he wasn't able to win in three minutes. Another one, get those things
come to wait, man. But that's my goal. That's my dream of LNI, Jiu. So, all right. Here's
my question, then, you know, Jiu. So LNI, where are we leaving voices in here? Are we leaving
Jimbo off the car then? No, I think again, Jimbo would be heavily involved in the rest
of the mania. But that is not a match. Not he would not have attacked the match. You don't
see him on that level then of a WrestleMania guy. That's great. He's going to be a huge
poignant figure. He's the playing the carry cross roll.
Dude, you a lot of people did not appreciate your carrying cross roll. I know, they've
been gone. He's the carry cross underneath the bus for no reason. That dude's a two-time
indie champion. He's the current MLW champion. You better watch out. He's going to go for
that house, the House of Glory heavyweight soon. I saw, I saw.
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Is there a world where Karian comes back? I think so. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think
that's off the table at all. Clearly, they like the character. They gave it to Alice or Black.
So clearly, they like the stuff he was doing. They just didn't like him doing it.
Isn't it interesting that Alice or Black's not being credit for Randy Orn? I told you that would
happen. No one's connecting the dot that WD wants and it's Alice is doing. Yeah. It's the same
thing that's going to be with Sami Zayn. You know, oh, man. Oh, I hear voices in the air.
Those poor waterbottles. It's Emmy versus the water bottle. All right. Let's move on here.
And you know, I asked you about LA night. Now, what are we doing with Gunther, brother?
Gunther has been off of TV here for the last couple of weeks. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'll
give it to you with Gunther. I think they're leaving him off the card. I think they're leaving
him off the card. I think all of this is purposeful. Like think, okay. I didn't, this might make you go,
oh, my God, they are. Once I point this out because they got pointed out to me after the show.
I'm like, oh, my God. Dude, they were in Cena country. They were in Boston and they didn't even
have Gunther go out and rage bait in the easiest place for him to do his rage bait stick of I may
John Cena tap out like a little bitch. They didn't even do that in Boston and Cena territory. If
they're not even willing to have Gunther make an appearance there after what he did with Cena,
after retiring agent, after retiring Goldberg, I think they're just going to keep him off the
card and wait for the proper program for him after WrestleMania. I think Mania is filling up
and to me, once again, we're going to kill another canary here. Not having him do anything in
Boston to me is very telling, Sancio. This close to Mania, no, no, not so much as even an interaction
that could be a WrestleMania match right now is a screaming being left off of the WrestleMania
card. I don't think we get Gunther at WrestleMania. That hurts, dude, because that is a huge
huge time and equity investment that they invested in Gunther time and all of the matches, all of the
championship reigns that he's had over the last two years. I mean, two world heavyweight championships
in just the past 12 months. The fact that they invested the retirement of Goldberg, the retirement
of John Cena, the retirement of AJ Styles, and making it to the final two of the rumble,
to be this close to WrestleMania with no interaction at all whatsoever with anybody.
And with the Boston context, I think he's just being left off of the card and they're saving him
for when they actually have something for him, which I think is stupid. I think it's silly.
And I think it goes to show that you and I were right when we said that there is a scary,
very apparent ceiling to the career killer gimmick. People completely love to misinterpret
what I say. When I said, you can't really do the career killer gimmick if you're going to start
running out of people to career killer, they said, well, those would always have to be a career
killer. I never said that that's all the matches he needs to have. But at major shows like this,
and major shows like WrestleMania, and major PLEs, when you're off the back of all of your
promos being about how you've ended careers, if your next match isn't killing a career, it's going
to look like a step down. It's going to look like you were a rung below where you were before,
a couple of weeks, a couple months ago, taking out the career of AJ Styles and John Cena out back
and shooting it. It is a step down. And I don't think WWE wants to take that step down because I
think they want his next match, his next major PLEs to also be a retirement career killer match.
And because it got taken off the table with Rey Mysterio, what's the option here for Gunther?
There's plenty, but none of them are career killers. Air gold, they'll be seen, whatever match
he has, as a significant step down. Because he could absolutely go out there and have a match with
Penta, he could go out and have a match, hell with LA Knight, he could go have a match with maybe
Seth Rollins, maybe Seth Rollins, maybe Paul Heyman, Hires Gunther, I don't know, and there's no
Bronbreaker. There are matches that they could absolutely force with Gunther, but if he's not
killing a career because of how much they've invested in the career killer thing, it will feel
like a step down. And that's why I think they're keeping them off the card because they know that,
and if they don't have a career to kill, might as well keep them off the card and wait until
there is a career to kill. I mean, you said it. Imagine in Boston, if he does this whole thing,
and they hear, oh my god, but you want to hear my 10-foil hat conspiracy theory?
I know Rey has been getting injured, but I don't think Rey agrees to being retired by Gunther
since Rey's not around. Oh, I'm going in the business for myself. For my son, too.
Oh, for my son, from Yeo. Yeah, so I don't, because you know, everybody wants Rey versus Dom
to be the final match. And if you're talking about careers, they're known to line up, there's only
a few names. And one of them is not even in the company, and that's Chris Jericho, then why would
you want to get rid of just Chris Jericho for just a couple months rental, when you have
Rey Mysterio who's clearly the only one available to be that lamb. But I think, damn, bro,
your boy got choked out for no reason, man. Yeah, man. Am I being overly critical here
of my analysis of the career killer thing? Like I said, you wouldn't want to see a follow-up
of Gunther versus Dragon Lee. I'll take that at many of that match that they had on Raw was great.
That'd be a great WrestleMania match, but a bad match for the career killer. You know, you
see what I mean? Maybe like an I quit match. So they could do those little recordings. Have you
ever seen those two K recordings or I quit? Yeah. Where it's like, Dom, like, oh, no, please, I quit.
I quit. Maybe like Dom, maybe I Gunther, I quit. I quit. I would love that. I would love a
Dragon Lee match. But it just shows you that you're a Dragon Lee is going to be prox. You
pieced somewhere else for Mania. But they had this happen before. I'd literally saw an interview
with the Undertaker. It must have been an old clip, but a podcast clip came up and Undertaker's
like, hey, Vince goes, hey, take her. We have really nobody for you. You only have RVD or
Ric Flair to work with. You pick. And that's all that sometimes it all shakes out. It's like,
eventually everyone's taken and there's no one to feud with. You can't go down with Sammy.
I think Sammy would be interesting. If you want to show that Sammy has this new edge to him and
Sammy is accepting in the inspiration of Randy Orton, you know, that he's been like, oh, man,
I've been watching random inspired by the choices he makes. And maybe that could be a great step
for for Sammy. But you, I think what you're what you're, it is, Santi is you, like I mentioned,
it's the Gunther bubble and they're creating this big bubble and it just keeps growing and growing
and growing. And now it's gone to the point of no return. You can't go back now. Yeah.
Fellas, there is a, there's a lesson here in finance and the AI bubble. It's the Gunther bubble
in WWE. I see a lot of similarities here. We're running out of careers to kill. Eventually,
we're going to run out of data centers and in organizations to buy AI chips and RAM. We're going
to run out of RAM and then the AI bubble is going to burst and then boom, we're going to end up
getting Gunther down in TNA. That's what's going to end up happening here. But yeah, man, it's
concerning. And unfortunately, that's how I see it playing out. You asked me who I think
Gunther is going to face right now after not doing anything in Boston, dude, in Boston.
I like he's doing anything on Mania. I think they're going to save him for when they have a
prayer to kill. Dan Howzen. Dude, what's funny is that sure? I'll take it. But Dan,
match just something, a segment, cursing Gunther. Just to get this career killer thing away
from him, it wouldn't be cursing him and he loses a match against Ray. Oh, damn, he lost
why Dan Howzen? Of course, that's why I love this hiring of Dan Howzen. It's the ultimate
get out jail card. It's the ultimate. We painted ourselves in a corner. Oh, we can't figure out
what to do. Oh, how do we get the belt off a Dominic Mysterio? We can't do it. He's cursed.
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The Bella's as well. He called him the Bella Clones. The Bella Clones. It's so fun. Yeah,
Bella Clones. That way they have clothes here. But yeah, but to go back to Gunther is like there,
there's, if you could get out of that corner, that'd be so much better for his career. Because
what has attracted us, Gunther, before this? It's just his in ring banger at their banger wrestling
style that this dude was a throwback to the olden days of wrestling. He's not an attraction,
like a gimmick. Now you turn them into a one trick pony. That's not what Gunther was.
Dude was very layered in what he was approaching. And it seems to be saunty. They were
experimenting with adding layers of aristocratic, oh, look at you, Randy. You're worthless. You
have become nothing. You've thrown your life away. They tried that. That didn't work out.
They said the same thing to Cena and all these kinds of things. So I'm just hoping that whatever
happens, if you're a Gunther fan, you just want him to be involved in Mania and you need him to get
a rid of that career. I would echo that. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to the other, like,
the two other major WrestleMania programs. Let's quickly talk about Oba versus Brock. We had a
bit more development on Monday Night Raw with a great promo from Paul Heyman. By the way,
this episode of Monday Night Raw, it's like, man, this is the Heyman we've been missing because
what we've been getting for the last like handful of months is like, ah, this is the pressure.
Austin Theory. That's the master of the tsunami. That's the future. Brombrick. That's the most
famous guy in WWE and Paul in Logan Paul. It has not been prime Paul Heyman, but Paul Heyman
on this episode of Monday Night Raw, his promo with Brock Lesnar, it felt very nostalgic, very like,
ah, this is the Paul Heyman that people fell in love with initially. Very interesting
approach to going with the Oba Femi is overrated approach. I thought that Paul Heyman was going to go
with the like, yeah, this is our God. That's our Mania opponent and let's do it. I thought he
was going to put over Oba with words, but they still are focused on putting Oba over with action
because what they did was very interesting is Oba is overrated. The only reason you got,
you got your moment is because Brock Lesnar was tired from taking out 20 men and he was distracted
by Seth Rollins, which is a dangerous approach to have Paul Heyman in words, bury you, call you
over hyped, right? But then I do think that the next step by having Oba say physically, by showing
it physically, your wrong did work, but I did think I was like, that's dangerous. That was,
I was really scared when they went with the route of Oba Femi being overrated, but I like the
delivery of the physicality. By the way, the way that Oba chucked Lesnar over the top broke,
that should have been the rumble spot. That should have been the rumble elimination.
Yes. I am happy to be on the train. I would like to read it, read it, read it to the people.
That's fine. I am allowed. Okay. People speak about it, not enjoy. Okay. Okay. If I can enjoy it,
then I could bring up something to ask you a question. Sure. Because I can't enjoy it. You can't
enjoy it. Wrestling in 39, Omas is segment with Brock Lesnar to build up. Same kind of
story of no one's manhandled Brock this way. Brock Lesnar is facing a mountain that he's never,
a feat that he's never done before. Who goes on wins at wrestling at 39 against Omas.
Braun Strowman, manhandles Brock Lesnar, Yeats him around, literally choke slans him,
power slans him. He's the monster monk's man. Isn't it interesting that Braun Strowman tweeted out
to about Oba, like, oh, I can beat Oba Femme. All right. Yeah. All right. Anyway, Braun Strowman had
a program with Brock. What ended up happening? Brock Lesnar beats Braun Strowman. Here we are again,
2026. Oba Femme for two segments has manhandled Brock Lesnar. The difference is in a little bit
that I have enjoyed is Brock Lesnar is now looking at Paul Heyman, like, what the hell do I do?
What do you want me to do here in this situation? And Brock Lesnar did a great job being vulnerable,
scared, and intimidated, yet ready to fight. And then when I was watching this entire segment,
and I'm going to ask you a question at the end of this, I was watching this entire segment,
I tweet out to the world, because that's the fun thing you could do, right? You could talk about your
because you're blocked. Oh, okay. But I tweeted out because the entire end of the segment,
Michael Cole ends with is Brock Lesnar the underdog question mark? And I tweeted out,
having Brock Lesnar selling Brock as the underdog doesn't make sense for me to do that. I'm with you.
Right. And so everyone's coming at me is like, no, that's not what the WWE is doing. They're
selling that Brock Lesnar is old and that there's a new lion, young versus old lion, but I was like,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I could understand the optics and that's what we're layering. And that's
the story that the fan has added to it. But the WWE purposely, and what I call in casting, the button
was the last thing for that segment was Michael Cole says Brock Lesnar is the underdog.
So if Oba wins at Mania, is it the right way to present Brock as the underdog? You say no.
No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think Brock should be presented as the underdog. I think that
takes away from the win. I think I think that Brock needs to be presented as a monster. I said
something that I don't know if it might anger people, but Lesnar's got to stand tall soon. Lesnar
has to take out Oba Femi. Lesnar needs to get his back. We need to have Lesnar be this scary
beast once again. I think if you want to get the most bang out of your buck for the development
and growth of Oba Femi specifically, because this is the big win here, the growth of the end
development of Oba Femi in the long term. That's what we're going to get out of this program
here between these two. You can't go into the match expecting an Oba Femi win because he's the
favorite. I think it needs to be this is Godzilla versus mecha Godzilla. Any of these two guys can win
and whoever is the biggest monster amongst men will be the one standing tall. They need to go in as
equals. I really believe that they need to go in as equals so that when Oba wins, once the dust settles,
he is the remaining monster. He is the top of the food chain because if he goes in already as
the favorite, then he's going in as the top of the food chain. Ergo the payoff of WrestleMania of
him becoming the top of the food chain has already happened. I think the payoff here is him
becoming the top of the beast food chain. And to do that, you need to have them both be equals.
That's my personal opinion on it. Is there fear that they're building up Brock
to beat Oba so he could have strength going into Summerslam to whatever opponent he's facing
as his retirement match? I think so, especially obviously with those reports of Lesnar wants to go
in undefeated. Listen, those reports can easily be fed by WWE themselves to create this type of
narrative, right? I just don't make those very seriously anymore. I'm more not necessarily
concerned about like, hey, we want to have Lesnar win to make him look strong. I'm more so concerned
about WWE just repeating history. You've already mentioned Braun Strowman, you've already mentioned
some of those big monsters or like the next guy to take out Brock Lesnar and then it just
doesn't happen. Heck, Damon's promo was built on that. I just don't want history to repeat
itself, right? History with Lesnar specifically does tend to repeat itself. So, yes, there is a
fear that Brock Lesnar is going to win. I do think it's absolutely there. I think if you aren't
fearful of that, I think you're being naive. I think you're being purposefully blissfully
ignorant here in the possibility of Brock Lesnar winning. I think it's absolutely on the table
that Brock Lesnar could win. My shield here is the big difference in crowd reaction that Braun
Strowman and Omas have versus Oba Femi. Oba Femi is getting legendary crowd ovations right now.
And I think Madison Square Garden is going to take this Oba Femi train
and put it over the edge here. I think Madison Square Garden could be the superstar making night
for Oba Femi with the crowd that we have there and with it being such a major show.
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1 million percent. I think it would be it would be silly of me to not think that Lesnar could win.
I still think oba is going to win another big difference between oba and almost and bronze
showman is that we're in the twilight of Brock's career. That was not the twilight of Brock's
career. That was still prime Brock Lesnar for the most part and WWE was still enamored with Brock
Lesnar. That was also san show Vince McMahon's WWE, Vince McMahon, that love putting Brock Lesnar
over even so much so it's a beat the streak. We're in a different era. San show with an aging
Lesnar under triple age. I could absolutely see them wanting to put the 20 something year old
over because he's got the gas here for the next 20 plus years. And on top of that. Yeah, on top
of that, oba, I see you playing the political game. Who's your favorite wrestler? Oh, your husband
triple H like, okay, all right. Trying to kiss asshole, but I get it. I respect it. I understand
the game. That's corporate America, baby. Kiss up to the boss and his wife.
Y'all don't understand the fear of God that was put in my eyes. Tell him, tell him San show.
I'm sitting there chilling, being the family man hanging out with my family.
And then San T goes, oh my God, I was so scared for you. I'm like, what do you mean? DMs me a
screenshot. Obofemi at WWE light. And I'm like, like what? It's one of our shorts. And one of
the most viable shorts that we had over the week was San T given his promo gas to me. Good promo.
Oh, yeah, good promo. Great promo. Great promo. But by ad, I helped because I played up to it.
You know, of course, yeah, it takes two to tango. It takes two to tango. You sold it. You sold it.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And it's an Obofemi light to short. I'm like, what short?
I'm sitting there sweating one short that he liked. And it was the one about Bailey, which
is interesting conversation why he would like that one. But he liked that short that we had about
Bailey. Like could Bailey go to AW has a Bailey done everything that she can in WWE. He liked that one.
And in my mind, San T gave like, oh, but don't worry, bro. I'm worried, bro. He didn't like any
of the others. He didn't like these short of Obofemi and San Joe. I'm not being on the train.
You're good. I'm like, nah, man. He's seen it. He knows. He knows. He definitely knows. And I can't
wait for all of us to be in first. So I can rat you out. So I can put you on your place so he can
hit the fall from grace on San Joe through a table. Did you're cooked, brother? You're cooked.
Why? Why? I do. Because you said that Obofemi was worthless and never going to amount to
anything. That is your exact word for word. You said Obofemi is a piece of trash. And you hate
him. And he's going to amount to nothing. And he's never going to win anything that he's overrated
over hyped. You said, and I quote, you said, and I quote, Obofemi is a bitch. That is
what you said. I go back to the tape folks. That's exactly what you said about Obofemi.
You said that. All of those things. You guys are playing a dangerous game in
the universe. That is dangerous for you. Look at me. Look, like for sure, for sure, though,
if you are an Obof fan and you're not fearful of Brock Lesnar, I think you're like you saw
until you nailed it. You're naive because there is a chance that Brock Lesnar could win this match.
And they're going to make Obo look strong. And you got to accept that as an outcome that Obo
looks strong, but Brock wins still. And maybe Brock barely wins. And it could be those
situations where Brock wins, but he's out on his feet like they did. Remember when takeer
beat somebody, who was it? That takeer beat. And then he couldn't walk out of the ring.
Triple H in the maybe 27. Where's it? Yes. And then Triple H was able to walk out, right? Yeah.
Yeah. So they could do that where Brock's like, you know, I met a guy in the ring. And he
took me out, but I'm here at Summer Slam. And I want to run, I want to run it back against you,
Obo. I want to prove to you that I could walk out on my own. I could walk out on my own
to beat. And I could beat you. And that's where Obo could be to met Summer Slam. And that would
mean so much more because then it's Brock Lesnar's absolute best try hard. I train for you. I
understood. I underestimated you. Paul Heyman was in my ear saying that I'm better than you.
The fact is right there. I'm older. I don't have it. I lost my step.
Father time, like Brock Lesnar can no way deliver this kind of promo because he's just not that guy.
But maybe he can. Where he's like, Father time is knocking on my front door step.
I you took me to my brink, but I know I'm better and I know I'm the beast incarnate.
So I want to have this match against you. Obo Femi at Summer Slam. Let's go. You're going to get
my absolute best. I want your best type of situation. Let's do it again. But this time I'm walking
down my feet and this time Obo Femi does beat him at his best. But Sancho, it is a low career
ending economy. Aren't you supposed to give that to the career killer? There aren't many careers
to kill. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. But listen, you should absolutely be nervous as the
possibility of Lesnar winning. It's better. Listen, I'm wrestling is booming. There are a lot of
you that are newer fans that don't know the path of destruction of our favorites that Lesnar has
left behind of people that were so beloved. They're like, this is this is it. And with a win over
Lesnar, that's our next guy. And then it doesn't happen. Then Lesnar eats them alive. And then there
is no rematch. It is a constant hamster wheel that we have been here with fan favorites stepping
up to Lesnar. So this might be your first interaction with one of these fan favorites going up
to Lesnar because we haven't really had one for a while. I mean, heck, you could include
Cena. Look what happened there. He's in the middle of his retirement tour and he's still got
malled by Brock Lesnar. So if you're a newer fan and this is your first time on the hamster wheel
of Brock Lesnar, it is actually more likely that somebody like Obo were to lose to Lesnar than not.
But I do feel like there's a different or a different air this time around where I think it
can be Oba. But again, just keep it in the back of your mind that Oba could absolutely be losing
this and it wouldn't be it wouldn't be out of the norm for WWE to make that decision.
So what do we say to the people that jump off the train?
I mean, if anything, it should be you. You should be the one giving that message.
No, I'm not saying you should jump off the train because I'm never leaving this train.
You jumped off the train before it even took off and you decided to get back on.
What would you tell the people that want to get off the train if Obo were to lose?
I think the message comes better from somebody that has already learned their lesson the hard way.
It's as funny as people send gifts of cowboys jumping on trains as me.
As it take it off. You guys are so creative. I would say this.
I've always known that Oba Femi is a project to be patient with because he can't be booked
as a monster in 2026. And if you jump off now, you're going to regret it later.
Type of thing. But I wouldn't blame you if he jumped off now because you were sold on goods saying
that he would just run rough shot through everybody. Now, if he does squash Lesnar in five minutes,
which is a possibility. Again, we have to talk about all possibilities.
Then that should be the green light when King of the Ring, when Summer Slam championship.
Like there's no path, no other trajectory than that if he squashes Lesnar because that's what,
that's like what Goldberg did. And then he ends up just dominating a lot too. So please,
the floor is yours, Oba. Take anything you want if you destroy Brock Lesnar.
I can't believe you said all of those horrible things about Obo Femi.
Crazy. You know what's this shame? It's just like it's like like Smackdowns and Rawls.
No one's going to go back to our weekly stuff to find out the real juice and the real
comedic bits and the nuanced conversation. They're going to go to your dumb shorts.
That your shorts, who I don't know always bury me and they never let me get my
attention. That's right. I'm sorry. I don't know. Yeah, Daniel.
Don't you understand? Can't you just put me in the good light every now and then?
I know I play the buffoon here. If you go to my YouTube channel and you see like, wow,
it's not sure that it's really good point at points. Well, guess who I'm working with.
I'm working with the clown here. All right.
Who refused the book?
That's that. That's that.
You enjoyed the show. It's all part of the show.
All right. Let's move on here. The other kind of like remaining major men's program
that we should talk about is Seth Rollins. He got arrested.
I want to, you know, your boy has a dual degree political science and legal studies with
a minor in Spanish in Spanish in case you didn't know. So I know a little bit about the
Laos on show. Wait, you speak Spanish and you majored in Spanish.
No, no, no, I took him. I took enough Spanish class. Okay, this is funny.
So I have two degrees. I have a dual degree in political science and legal studies.
The idea was to become a lawyer. I got into law school. I just never ended up going.
Anyways, that's a different story. But I have a minor in Spanish because I took
enough Spanish classes to just boost my GPA. And when it came to graduation day, they're like,
yeah, you took enough classes to minor in Spanish. I was like, oh, okay. So that that's part of my
educational designation. I have a minor in Spanish, but I pretty much only took Spanish just
to boost my GPA because I speak it already natively. I just pretended like I didn't.
Good stuff. Where was I going with this? Seth Rollins, the law.
Sancho, this whole segment of Seth Rollins getting arrested hints on the fact that he broke a
a restraining order, a restraining order that Heyman tricked Seth Rollins in the breaking because
Seth Rollins didn't know there was a restraining order on him. I just want to point out that
the guy being restrained with the order needs to know what he's being restrained from in order
for him to be able to actually do the staying away from. So Seth, get a lawyer because that's
just not how restraining orders work. You can't just be sprung up on a restraining order in an
event that you were scheduled to be at and invited by, by your employer, by the way. And what,
now you're arrested because you showed up at the event that you didn't even know you were
restrained from. What is with the law in WWE? First Drew McIntyre's contract being nullified simply
because Nick Aldeys says, I'm not feeling it anymore. And now this guys get lawyers. Get lawyers.
Go to court. WWE, follow the law, the letter of the law. He'll be out next week.
He ain't getting arrested for long because realistically, if he actually would get arrested for
this, he wouldn't miss WrestleMania, by the way. He fell and he liked this, yeah.
Oh, I thought he was because you had restraining orders put on your ass.
No, no, that's where you're going with that. No, I don't have any restraining orders on me.
You should pull it on me for fun. Go through the legal process of actually putting a restraining order
on you. Do it. Imagine you go to Twitch, go on, you're like, hey, then all of a sudden there's
a line of five cops. Surprise. And then I can put on a set of notes. Yeah, so the Rawlins
gets arrested. We have Madison Square Garden next week. Paul Heyman said some pretty Paul Heymany
stuff. Like now that you're arrested, your wife is going to divorce you. And once she divorces
you, she is going to become every man in the locker room's wife. And your daughter is going to
become an orphan. And because I'm so nice, I, Paul Heyman will adopt your daughter. It was
pretty maniacally good stuff there from Paul Heyman, for sure. Are we looking here at the
return of Brown Breaker at Madison Square Garden? Is this what we're, we're heading towards?
I kind of tweeted that out that he will get involved in the vision of the Uso match. I think
that's the possibility. But I, I feel like they're building up vigilante Seth Rollins more by
having him break the law. He's going to get his hands on Paul Heyman using his mask man. Well,
can we, okay, can we come up with a name for the mask men? Can't be just Seth Rollins and
like, you know, like the league of shadows, you know, the league of shadows. Let's come up with a name
for the mask man, the mask man, the marauders, the mask, the visionaries, the mask, uh, the mask
meanies. The goonies, the man, the word goonies over these days. Oh, Seth Rollins and the goonies.
And the goonies, the goonies, the, the mask goons, no mask, mask gooners, gooners and the gooners,
eyes, that gooners, that gooners going to follow for, for trademark infringement though. Oh,
goonther. That photo of gootter kills me every time. Oh, my God. Yeah, when I saw that segment,
it felt so rush because normally something like this is built up where you would have Paul Heyman
when I put a restraining order on Seth Rollins. I mean, don't get me wrong. Paul Heyman's God
taking a lot of bumps from Seth Rollins, but I feel that it just, I don't know where he gets arrested
and then we just ramp up so quickly, which tells me that I think Braun Breaker is around the corner.
Like, they're like, we need to pull this now. We need to do this now. We need to get him arrested
now so that we have four weeks to build up Braun and Seth Rollins. That's kind of where I'm going
with there. The thing is, too, like if Braun Breaker does return, however, it's got to be because
he's physically cleared. I don't want him to just return to talk. I want him to return to hit a
spear on Seth Rollins and be a physical force. So, imagine the fear in your mind that if you
hit a spear and it goes wrong, then you explode. Yeah, man. Dude, I mean, that would happen to me
for sure. If I do any of the moves that these WWE superstars do, my testicles are absolutely
falling out of my ballsack. One million percent. I would find a way to do that injury that would
happen to me if I tried any of this stuff. If I try to big boot brother, it's over. Testicles
gone. Disappeared and bloated into the air into the nether and Minecraft. That's what would
happen. Yes, that would be terrifying. But that brings up a point like, yeah, you got to take it
easy with Seth. You got to take it easy with Braun Breaker. But this is a feud that warrants not
taking it easy. This is a feud that's going to warrant a brawl here there. It's going to warrant
Braun Breaker maybe taking out the goonies. It's going to warrant some physicality here.
And I'd be nervous about like, hey, those are some probably fresh stitches that Braun Breaker is
dealing with to fix that hernia. What if Paul hammering hires a mercenary here? Go in there.
Yeah, that's a possibility. Yes, it goes back then to what we were saying before, even if it's
like Seth wrongs is such a huge opponent, that career killer gimmick thing. Like, sure, but
it's the end of it. But he could they could even play, gosh, Seth, or what's his real name?
Kobe. Kobe. Kobe. Kobe. You you want to you you think that you could have a career
with your broken body, Kobe. No, I will end it. I will break your body and end your career.
And then he doesn't. And then it's over. And then it's over. And then we go.
Like a raccoon in the river, we wash our trash and we eat it and we crap it out. And it's over.
Bye. It's gone. It's biodegradable waste. We no longer have to talk about doing
through in the career killer gimmick, because Seth Rollins, the golden boy of the WWE survives.
As always, Seth Rollins always survives, no matter what.
Then we're done. Sure. Yeah. Listen, I think they got to remove the career killer moniker off
of Goon third to allow him to further flourish in this in his career, especially here in the
short term. And Seth could do that. It could work. It absolutely could work. And then yeah,
Bronbreaker is not available. I think that I think that that's the next best available thing.
I really do think it's the next best available thing. That being said, the best available thing
is still Bronbreaker. And I hope it's Bronbreaker. I really, really do. The narrative and the payoff
of this specific narrative warrants Bronbreaker, not Bronson Reed, not Goon third, not the pressure,
not the humble one. It requires Bronbreaker. And don't give me wrongs until you can still tell
the story later on after WrestleMania. But if you want to like have the culmination of this vision
storyline and start to move on from it and heal from all the problems that this has had,
then you want to do it at WrestleMania. And it starts with Bronbreaker returning at Madison Square
Garden. Right. But you want Bronbreaker to be at 100%. And I guess it's interesting to me that
we can't have a wrestling match. It's not a typical Bronin Seth match. Like you could
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Firefly Fond House? No, like no, they could wrestle a different style, but that's I think that's
what hurts wrestlers more in ages like they have to force what they're over for. And that causes
them to do stuff that they shouldn't do. I still believe we should never got Seth and Braun
Breaker here. Like let him rest up. Like, Mania, you have enough talent that you could give a spot
beyond Seth. And like the vision was already dead. And the only hope for the vision was a tag team
match with the Usos, which we're getting towards. We have one on Mass Square Garden. I just thought
at the end of the day, let Seth heal up, let Braun Breaker heal up that way we have him longer in
their career versus forcing something that Mania doesn't really need right now. Like that's why I
felt like when I saw Seth get arrested, like, do we really need this right now? Like does this
vision Seth Rollins storyline need them to get arrested? Because that feels like a plot A
story on Monday Night Raw. Like, oh my god, Seth Rollins got arrested and look where we're talking
about it. Like almost an hour plus into the plot. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm fully with you here, man.
Does this listen, I know the promo was good, but I just think all of this mass band stuff.
The obviously all the injuries can't do anything about that. The what I thought was underwhelming
reveal of Seth Rollins. I think all of these things are compounding at damaging this program and
making me just simply just not excited for this as good as the Paul Hammond promo was. I think
this is like fifth in terms of the match I'm most excited for at WrestleMania. And that that
for a center under under LA night Joso. Of course. Yeah. That's number one. But a match that has could
again potentially if it's Rob Breaker that has this much star power with Paul Heyman in it with
a year of build with a breaker joining the vision the night after WrestleMania. You would think
it would be better suited than being like the fifth most interesting match at WrestleMania. But
here we are. It's compounding problems, man. They have all added together to create this mess of a
ball. Here's a question for you. The Seth Rollins debut a new theme. He's got this whole new persona.
He's got this whole new demeanor about him. He's no longer coming out with all the fashion wearables
that he he is known for the pageantry. And that entrance theme that he has is very gallant.
Oh, that works with all of the crazy stuff that he wears on a nightly basis in his insane
WrestleMania tires. But right now he's just coming out all black with the ski mask. Like are we
looking at a new new presentation for Seth Rollins here in general? Because there's a lot that's
changed about him. It's it's going to go Mike, Alpha, Romeo, Kilo, Sierra, Mask, Buddha,
Did you look did you quickly Google the military alphabets call signs to be able to do that bit?
Oh, man, shout to the big thick mask gooney, dude, man, shout to you. Yeah, that guy's doing the
Lord's work. That guy's tried so hard to be to be Seth Rollins trying to fool us. You never know, man.
You never know. Wasn't it funny when he came out there on Rawl and there was the mask man
standing on the commentary table and there was like, and then he takes off his mask and Seth Rollins,
like, what is the only one? Yeah, and it had he had two masks. Did you notice that?
He did. He wanted to take out the other. Yeah. All right, let's let's move on from from this
here. Real quick here, we got a couple of other programs. I want to quickly just take a moment
here to compare Stephanie Vodka to live Morgan to what's going on with Rhea Ripley and and Jade
Cardinal. I'll say this, Sancho. Yes, Stephanie and Liv, they got 45 seconds on this episode of
Monday Night Raw. And in my opinion, Sancho, they are doing a lot with very little that 45
seconds. I thought was really impactful. I was actually bummed out that it didn't go longer.
I want to see more of it. And I have found even though they have two totally different
graphs in the level of like the English language, they have good chemistry with each other,
promo wise, personality wise, and clearly physicality wise, because that was a great quick to the
point brawl. I compare that program to what's going on over on Friday Night Smackdown, where I
think they're doing very little with a lot because they are getting and I don't think it's an
exaggeration. A hundred times more airtime than Liv Morgan and Stephanie Vodka, which is insane,
because that's a world champion in a Royal Rumble winner. I digress. I get it. You got Rhea Ripley,
your big star over there, but they are trying long promos. They multiple times different
approaches on the promos. They're even creating new factions to try and make this interesting.
And I just don't think that they're moving the needle anywhere near as much with all of this time,
all of the spotlight, as much as Stephanie and Liv have with their tiny little segments here
there. They're little scraps of time that WWE is willing to give them. I am still way more
interested in Stephanie versus Liv than I am for Rhea Ripley versus Jade Cargill. Rhea and Jade,
they need to step it up. Like it has, Satya, it's not been good. The promos have not been,
nah, the promos have not been good. The second promo was better than the first. We're seeing
gradual improvement. And then I'm sorry, but like a faction with beefab and meachin,
that doesn't exactly spell confidence here for me. You want to know why, Sancho?
Because that's not going to be a faction that's actually dominant. That's going to be a faction,
and I know you're going to agree with me when I say this. They're just there to get fed for
Rhea Ripley on the road to WrestleMania. Get ready for Rhea versus Meachin. And then the next
week, Rhea versus Beefab. And then the next week, Rhea and Io versus Meachin versus Beefab.
They are just there to get eaten alive by Rhea Ripley on the road to WrestleMania.
And I promise you, I am willing to put gifted subs on it. They are going to be an inconsequential
addition to this faction, to this program. They are just there to get mulled by Rhea Ripley.
Well, you're hating on Jade's baddies, dude. The return of Jade's baddies.
What do they call the takeover? The takeover is what they're being called.
They can't be baddies if they have been jobbers for a year.
Get me. I'm a killed by everybody. I'm a baddie. I'll say this like it's a better use of them
than just what they've been doing before. But I don't think this all the sudden made them interesting,
made them must watch or anything like that. They're just there to get killed by Rhea.
Look, you can have that opinion for sure. As the Smackdown reviewer, I have been enjoying the
build in the sense of how they're progressing it. I like the new wrinkles that Jade says.
I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make mo money and lieu of like CM Punk. I like the
attitude that she says, hey, I don't need this business. I am successful without this business,
this business needed me, Jade Cargill. When I'm done, this title doesn't mean anything.
You buy any of that? I kind of do buy that that Jade probably has bigger aspirations than
being a I don't buy the like the WWE needs me angle of it when you have literally a cross
from Rhea frickin Ripley. And we are a cross from Rhea Ripley who I promise you is going to be
a bigger crossover star than Jade. So when Rhea Ripley then replies with that, like look,
I've been giving my life to this business since I was 16 years old. And then she says,
I'm willing to do anything I can for this business. But I will not let you disrespect all the other
superstars in the locker room like, yo, that belt right there, that belt needs me. It's
clear as day needs me because you're not doing anything with it and you're like the legacy of
it suffering. So I don't need it, but the belt needs me. And I'm like, damn, let's go. And then
she's, you know, Rhea says, takes the line from Becky Lynch. Welcome to the big time, right? So
it's quite interesting how they're building itself. Of course, the baddies are being used as
fodder because you got to create doubt for Rhea to overcome so many obstacles. It's going to be
shenanigan filled. It's the babyface Rhea Ripley is going to overcome Meachan, B-Fab and Jane
and win. So I don't mind this because I've always wanted Rhea Ripley to be a champion.
And this is what the same time we'll give Smackdown a heel faction to work with. We're lacking
of heel factions. You can't just have last legend and Naya Jax come in and be the heel faction.
The Kupuki Warriors are no longer on Smackdown to do that. And Kiana James and Julia are
sure they're their own mid-car faction. But then at the same time, Secret Harvest as well
is the other heel faction. So yeah, give me the baddies. Jade and the baddies could run rough shot
on Smackdown. They'll do a great job in creating so many opportunities for the mid-car to show up
if Tiffany Strein ends up being the United States title holder. You could have Meachan and B-Fab and
Jay to be a problem for her. And that'd be great. You need these things, Auntie. You gotta have
the layers. You know what I'm saying? You gotta have layers. Not everybody's going to be the
Stephanie and Rebecca Adam of your world. So I'm happy that this is not, it's filling a void
in my mind for Smackdown that it just really needs. It needs more heels in that world. And
converting a B-Fab and Meachan weren't doing anything in the mid-car anyway into heels is a plus.
I just feel it's not you that this feels like we're building up towards
fast lane. As opposed to building up to WrestleMania. Now I'm not saying that Stephanie and
Liv are particularly doing a WrestleMania build, but they're not really getting an opportunity
to be able to build a proper WrestleMania build with the little time that they've been given.
It's just interesting. That was me that one one side is getting so much time and I just don't
think they're doing enough with it. And then the other side is getting such little time and
slowly moving mountains with it. That's how I perceive it. Do you ask yourself why is Netflix so
stubborn with that 30 minutes? No clue. Like you'd think they shouldn't be, right? It's not like
we got a tune in to the to the half hour news that's coming up. It's just so bizarre that they are
so dead set on two and a half hours. Maybe it's a, I don't know, maybe it's a bandwidth thing.
Maybe their servers can't handle a three hour bond. I have no clue.
Well, it's my mind because it's in the top 10. I see it on my top 10 every once in a while,
the raw does well. And it's so riddled with commercial still at the same time.
So it does bring in revenue for Netflix to have commercials. I just feel that 30 minutes would
help the Stephanie back care and live match so well. But I did like that power bond spot. They
didn't grill it. That was nice. That was cool. That was nice. And it could be salty at the same time
that Stephanie and Rick hell and live. Maybe they don't, the WWE doesn't have, it feels like it
needs to be more action oriented than Ria and Jay. Oh, I agree. I think Ria Jade needs to be the
one that's action oriented. They have no chemistry on the microphone with each other.
You're going to be hard pressed to find people on your side on that one.
I'm optimistic for this battle. I think it has the ability to when we talk about CM Punk and Roman
in ring, right? We're like, yeah, you know, we know what C heavy finishers kick out and stuff.
I think this one's going to be hard hitting a hard hitting. I think Ria has the ability to work
really well with Jay. I'm not predicting better than Ria, type of chemistry, not like Brett and Sean.
Of course. Of course. But I am predicting that this will be a match that if you went to go get
your glizzy, you would be hard, you'd be sad that you did. Okay. All right. I think raw has two
better women's feuds than Ria Ripley and Jade Cargill, the women's world championship and even
AJ Lee versus Becky Lynch. I thought their promo was actually pretty solid on Monday night raw.
I think that was AJ Lee's best promo since coming back. I need real Becky Lynch here, bro.
I don't need weasily heel survivor series war games, Becky Lynch. Give me Lyra, Becky Lynch.
That's the one that I need. Summer slam, Becky Lynch. Not this one that's afraid of AJ Lee. I
want the one that wants to hurt AJ Lee. Do you know, did you understand my difference that I'm
seeing? I don't get it. Yeah. I felt like we kind of got that here. They were talking to each
other. Like what I said in the in the review was it felt like we were finally getting adults
talking to each other. You didn't have the AJ Lee millennial cadence. Oh, hang on.
Type of way that she likes to talk. Do you understand what I'm saying? Do you see what I'm saying
here? We didn't get that AJ Lee and then we didn't get the rambling lunatic Becky Lynch.
Oh, Becky Lynch that we were getting in the initial first encounters between those two.
They're like, okay, cool. We have two WWE superstars to adults that finally talking to each other
and it's like, ah, that's all we needed. Just talk to each other normally. And I'm in because I
actually thought that was so much better than everything else that they put together almost
combined, Sancho, in terms of promos. Becky said to what they said it though. What?
Becky said you fell for it. You dope. That means it was part of her plan. Oh, you triggered my
trap card. She went full Yu-Gi-Oh on that. By the way, McDonald's will have a K-pop demon
hunters collab for Happy Meals. Aren't you excited? I never see K-pop demon hunters. It's all
Netflix. It's one of the greatest shows. The movies that they have. I'm surprised they haven't
done a crossover with the K-pop demon hunters in the WWE. What about Fortnite? Is there a K-pop
demon hunters on Fortnite? Yes. There is. They have seven different skins. All right.
Our Drew McIntyre and Jacob dead. Is that the implication of them falling the two stories?
Drew? Undead Drew versus Undead Fod 2. There we go. Now we're cooking with fire here.
So they were Peter Griffin in the chicken the whole episode of Friday Night's Mac now fighting
in almost every single backstage segment that they had, culminating with the double death of
Drew and Jacob falling off the second story of that building. Conveniently, we couldn't see them
land on anything kind of crazy. What are the odds? I'm assuming we're getting a major stipulation
match here. I don't want to just sort of pass the buck over to you since you are the Smackdown
reviewer. What did you think of this? What did you say about this in their review?
What I enjoyed about it was that it was a running scene is that it had a beginning middle and
end that it was constant. We touched upon and that it's action oriented. We've already gone
through so many complaining promos from Drew. We've gone through the Jacob All-Gas, no breaks
promos. It's time for action and if this is a way to put them on the shelf for a little bit to
let them marinate, to explode into the sensitive fight, part two. Sure. I'm for it. I'm for it.
It just shows the intensity of Drew McIntyre and I like the, even the details of him having the
Triple H gloves, the hand wraps like Triple H is really well. Right. It fits his persona really
well, especially when rocking the hoodie in. I like the simple notion of, hey, Jacob was supposed
to go to the hospital. He got his car wrecked into, but Jacob Fattu didn't go to the hospital.
He's a bad ass and he went to the ring to beat up Drew McIntyre. Hell, yeah. Does this make up for
Drew losing the title? No. But at least we don't want to be like an LA night or a Gunther or a Lyra
and Bailey or a Raquel wondering, are we going to be on the car to meet you or an Aleister Blacks?
I'll take it, but I'm hoping that it doesn't end up in a Damien Priest type of scenario where nothing
happens to both of them after the sensitive fight. It can be like you go to Vegas and you're gambling
and you're like, well, at least I'll have fun and I spend with $200 and I came out even. No, we need
to have a, we need to hit the jackpot here for both of them because I feel that Jacob Fattu
is in a weird spot where he was with Solo and he, remember, he had the United States style and
then he said, forget that. Don't want it. I want to attack Solo, loses the title and then just
ended up getting the, the, the teeth surgery and gave his teeth a dead housing and then where,
here we are again, trying to figure out where we could have put Jacob Fattu, right? And you're
surprised that he didn't do anything with Roman. He didn't even have that thing where Tomatanga
told Solo, yeah, you sounded a lot like Roman. We didn't have that moment with Tomatanga and Jacob
and Solo and all the MFTs. So where does Jacob Fattu? You've been talking about what's the postmania
for everybody. I don't see postmania right here with Drew and Jacob. I do see an ending but I don't
have any confidence in postmania because postmania and Drew. Hello, it is Ryan and we could all
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Priest, but then he lost the Damien Priest at Saturday's main events cage match play and make it
make sense. How can your baby face walk out of the cage? How can you win by going out the do we
never saw just again? You know what's funny, canonically, everyone ran over all security,
Nick Aldiz ran over to witness the the double death and just left Randy to potentially kill
Mac or don't know. I wish Randy did that. That would have been perfect. I actually agree.
Like after the air type of segment, this is what happened to Matt Cardona after it. And then
Randy's like, yeah, wow, wow, wow. I like it. I'm excited for the notion of this match,
Sancio. I'd be a lot more excited for it if it didn't have. And I think you it sounds like
you're on the same boat. If it didn't have the my asthma, the dark cloud of how we got here with
Drew McIntyre and him losing the WWE championship so unceremoniously, had we gotten here a little
bit more organically without, you know, the sacrificial necessity of taking out Drew McIntyre
out back. I think I'd be a lot more on board. I'm still on board. Like, you know, it is what it is.
Like we got to move forward from everything that happened with Drew McIntyre and the WWE championship.
I think it's going to be a really fun match. It certainly is requiring a stipulation.
Maybe we're looking at actually doing a hell in a sell match here. There was rumors of a hell in
a sell match at WrestleMania. It's been a long time since WrestleMania, since a hell in a sell
match. Last one was bad blood 2004, 2004. I think the feud warrants it. And I think this explanation
could be like, I can we can't have you guys taking this fight all over the all over Las Vegas.
We have to protect the show. We have to protect the back. We have to protect the city. We have
to protect the audience. We have to keep you guys in one place. Hell in a sell.
Sidebar, we were talking about Randy and Cody. Do you find it interesting that Cody's first
words about Randy's he'll turn will be at the Pat McAfee show? Oh, I said that in my livestream.
I was very confused by that. I will say those Pat McAfee show clips, they've landed almost
every time they've had somebody on the Pat McAfee show to the right. Yeah,
Lesnar was on there every time they've had a WWE superstar on that Pat McAfee show to advance
a story for WrestleMania. So I think they have batted 100. I think it's always worked.
I initially my initial gut reaction was like, why? Why not have the first words be together
against one another? And then I remembered I was like, wait, hang on. This has always worked.
So I'm going to let it play out. I think it's going to work. What do you think about it?
What did you think about it? I mean, I would want my soaps to be on the same programming, man.
I'm with you. That was my initial reaction. I just thought about it a little bit more. I'm like,
this has worked every time actually. Okay. So I'm going to be tuning into it. I'm definitely
interested in it. But certainly a not a left field approach for this program. I'll say that
a bit out of left field. All right. Let's wrap up some of the other little topics here that we have.
We have new tag team champions and Damien Priest and our truth. It seems like MFDNY at 6 are still
going to continue, but this time just for the lantern. Honestly, I'm glad. You know, if WWE is
dead set on continuing MFDNY at 6, great. Let's just remove the titles from this program.
Put them on weapon truth and allow them to have more traditional tag team matches.
Like, I'm not necessarily excited specifically about the prospect of Damien and truth being
tag team champions. What I'm excited for here is the prospect of those tag team champions being
back in the ecosystem of regular matches against Los Garzas against maybe a new heel motor
city machine gun against Fraxium. That's what I want to see. And now that it's out of that
vortex, I think we are going to see more of that for the Smackdown tag team division.
Well, MFDNY at 6 can continue to have their brawls over this friggin lantern.
I said what it more power. Give me more power. More power of the lantern. Well, more power.
So would you not say the power is starting to maybe show when Tomatanga said, let's give the lantern
back. And so I was like, no, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it landed with Toma saying, hey,
you're starting to sound like Roman. So like the lantern is doing something to solo.
Well, give me give me some more elements, man. Make it like a like a music. You know,
maybe Dan Howeson doesn't want to touch it. Oh, that'd be interesting. If Dan Howeson's like,
no, oh, you know, we need to know that it actually has problem. And I like that shinskate is still
doing the shinskate things in the background. Try to tell Tomatanga, like, what are you now?
You're just holding on to the lantern. So there's something there. I just feel like right now,
solo, so koas, service is more served best with CM Punk and Roman right now, more than ever,
like more than ever, solo, brother. And then that could cause friction between solo and the MFTs
and Tomatanga, because are they part is who's part of the bloodline in that faction besides solo?
Well, bloodline 2.0 had the Tongans. It did.
Who's on that tree? Now, take a look. Tree. Oh, on the actual tree, none of them.
Right? Yeah, none of them are in the tree proper. So there you go. It's just solo.
So imagine if solo is like, I got to go, I got to go take care of some business. And then he leaves,
and that leaves Tomatanga, Tonga, Loa, Jayse Matel. Don't you just want to swirl a wine glass
when you say Jayse Matel? Yes, absolutely. But that would, I think that would be a natural divide,
because I think that's what they're doing with Tomatanga saying you sound more like Roman.
Which is it a bad thing to be like the tribal chiefs, the OCC?
I think it is for the Tongans because they went to war with them, right?
There you go. Yeah, so yeah, I guess yeah, we could be leading to something. I'd like to see
solo come front punk. I wanted some influencer out there to be like, you need to leave
the OTC lifestyle. You don't want to be like, would you see the lifestyle? Did you like
I'll see a punk? I don't need people to acknowledge me. That was very solo. That was a very, very
solo moment there from from punk, which is a good thing, which is a good thing. All right,
we got a couple other more here. Are you interested in Motor City potentially going heal?
Joining joining. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Tell us. Because dude, that was a great match between
Proxy and Motor City. I was like, okay, we know these guys could go on the ring. I watched
them any time, any day, any week, any venue. And so when they're doing their thing, I'm like,
what's missing with Motor City? And I said this when they first appeared on the scene, Tanti,
that they're very vanilla. Vanilla is fine. I love vanilla flavors. Vanilla ice cream,
vanilla Greek yogurt. Vanilla ice. Vanilla ice. Vanilla ice, but what doesn't work in
wrestling for me is vanilla pro superstars. And these guys came in and very vanilla. They had
nothing to go from. There were just those baby faces that they go, yeah. So eventually, now that
we're adding a wrinkle to it with the poison pixie, the canister ray, a factually with joining
Gorgano and Motor City, all could work. That could be awesome. And that could be the lifeline
that joining Gorgano kind of needs. And I liked the fact that Chris Sabian has no idea what's
happening behind his back. And Alex Shelley does. Because he was the only one that saw the
interference of Candace. And he has that look. Like for some reason, he, like Alex is actually doing
a great job in this angle a lot more than I expected. And I'm happy that they're able to do some
drama and some WWE storylines for Motor City. This is, I feel like the first time they actually had
something from the last time they had them. They were like, oh, I don't want to face a why,
it's you face a why it's pretty deadly. That's the only thing that they had with Motor City.
And now that they're having something on their own, huge W is a huge benefit for me. There
was a lot of things in that Smackdown. I felt like, oh, okay, well, at least we get a turn,
a twist, a flavor, a seasoning. You ever had something like, you know what, needs a little salt.
And adding Candace, the ray was that little salt that Motor City needed.
If this was the Vince McMahon era, Alex.
Sure. And Candace Loray would definitely be having an affair. I just, I just know if we were
in the, in the 2010s or 2000s or the attitude era.
So the locker room. Show the locker room. This is Motor City. The door opens. Candace the
ray comes out. Oh, yeah. And then Chris Sabine comes just like, what was all that about?
Now it goes, nothing. There you go. There it is. I wrote that.
Breaking piss. Stop that. No. Quit it. But I enjoy that a lot. I enjoyed that. Yeah.
Did you, do you, what do you think of our truth and our truth and Damien? I know that you said
it's great that, you know, get the tiles off of them. It's going to be for a lantern,
a minion. It's fine for MFTs. What about the weapon king and our truth? Our truth like my post,
by the way. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, like I said, like, I'm not necessarily excited about them
specifically being champions. It's just, I'm more excited about the titles being in a more
traditional ecosystem that opens up the door. Is it traditional if they're both singles though?
Sure it is. Yeah, because that's about as traditional as it is for the tag team division
for WWE. It's always single stars that they just put a pair together. It's more traditional
in the sense that it's not going to be in in a faction warfare that has a prize that seemed
more important to everybody than the titles, which was the lantern, which it even was showcasing
actual match, by the way, where they started. They focused their attention on protecting the lantern
as opposed to the actual match. Did you see our truth picking up JC Mateo? Clean A. Yeah, man.
That was impressive. Very impressive. We have Sami Zayn getting booed, which I think is funny
after the weeks of destroying water bottles and it's in water bottles. The Pied Piper came
collect them because in came trick willy with a glass of water and he threw it on Sami Zayn in the
name of all the water bottles. All heroes must wear lemon pepper stepas on show. That was
what an interesting dichotomy. We talked about Randy getting loved and Cody getting booed.
We have another similar situation here where dude, if it's trick and Sami, trick is getting all
the love here over Sami Zayn. You can already sense it. But then we're responsible for the hill turn
because Sami's been doing everything right and we're feeding into his notion of look at Randy
who's doing everything wrong and he's getting cheered and look at me. Look at me, Santi, I'm doing
everything right and I get booed. Good. If that's the catalyst for a Sami Zayn character transformation
then I think we're long past due here, Sancho. Long past due. Is he taking over the Kevin Owens
role? If Kevin Owens can't be around? He could play the Kevin Owens role. I think so. I think
he absolutely could play the Kevin Owens role. I wouldn't mind that. Would you? You think we got a
trick willy versus Sami and WrestleMania? Yes, I think that's going to be a WrestleMania match.
I've noticed recently when we're seeing little micro-fudes where I'm like, oh, is this the
Mania match? They're just like, and next week, they did with EO here in Raquel. I thought that
was going to be a Mania match, by the way. Yeah, I agree. But it doesn't seem like that's going to be
the play here with Sami and Trick. Trick is like, nope, I'm not. I don't want a match. I'm good.
I'm just telling. I'm just watching. So it does seem like they are very purposefully keeping them
away from having a match until WrestleMania. And I think that should be a WrestleMania match.
Those are two big names. An up-and-comer in Trick Williams, Sami Zayn. Give them 10 minutes.
They'll put on a fun match. This trick, when? He should. One, that's an up-and-coming star.
And this is a rare situation where the loss might actually be more valuable to the character
transformation of Sami Zayn than a win. So I think it's actually a rare win-win situation here
for Trick to win. I think it's win-win for both of them, if Trick wins. So you should
absolutely have Trick winning. It should be a year. I mean, if you have Javon, Trick, and Oba on
the card, they should all three win. That'd be a really cool vote of confidence for this new class
of that next year's. I want someone to go to us, whatever next, Mania, a Raw, whatever,
and have a water bottle sign. Yeah. It's a big water bottle. Maybe a prime bottle they wanted to.
Hey, what happened to the prime bottle card? I haven't seen it in a while. Maybe they're not
longer sponsoring it. I don't know. Or is it just PLEs? I thought it was just PLEs. No, no,
that thing was every time. It was always there. I did remember seeing a survivor series when I was
there. The prime curve was definitely there. I put a bet on whether or not the prime curve would
get typed over on that show. It didn't, unfortunately. But it definitely wasn't on the royal rumble
card because that has its own sponsor, Riyadh seasons. They're never at the at the Saudi shows.
Elimination chamber was it there? I don't remember. My question for you is, is speed involved in
the Mania? This is an early instance for speed at me at WWE in a random Raw unannounced,
essentially. Yeah. I think so, especially because they left the curse open and they didn't
pay it off on that episode, right? So I think, okay, it means we get speed for at least another week,
whether it's on Raw or on SmackDown to pay off the curse here. Yes, I do think that we get speed,
you know, WWE loves their celebrity involvement as much as they can wherever they can get it.
We had speed doing that video that did really well, like 10 million views with Randy Orton
with the training to become a wrestler. His last appearance at the Royal Rumble maybe did,
like, the most insane numbers that I've seen a wrestling clip do. It continues to do numbers
even today because it's one of the most popular wrestling gifts that you can find. So WWE knows
that this guy's money and WrestleMania needs some help. And I think they know it.
Interesting crop of celebrities to push Mania this year. Jelly Roll on speed.
Jelly in speed, man. To opposite worlds, both big draws in their respective worlds,
because a lot of people will say, well, Jelly doesn't draw. Jelly is a big deal in his
pocket of the universe. Speed is a massive deal in his pocket of the universe.
Yeah, it is an interesting crop for sure.
Very interesting crop. Shall we get to New New Heat Orders, sir?
Do we get to New New Heat Orders?
New New Heat Orders, please.
New New New New New New New Heat Orders.
Where is my pincer?
Don't leave!
I knew people were leaving.
People always like to leave. All right, here we go.
For those of you who don't need New New Heat Orders, the heat, the buzz, the excitement,
show-to-show, kind of ranking that we do, and at the end of the year, we reveal the
the New New Heat Order. Who was the New New Heat Order last year? Was it John Cena?
Had to be John.
Had to be John considering it was his retirement.
Here's a New New Heat Order at number 11, Dan Housen, number 10, Bailey, number 9,
Penta, number 8, CM Punk, number 7, Roman Reigns, number 9, 6 Paul Heyman,
number 5, Chuck Willey, number 4, Brock Lesnar, number 3, Cody Ruiz, number 2,
Opal Femme, number 1, Rainy Orn and Fresh, off the heel. Turn.
Who is the New New Heat Order this week, folks?
Santi, at number 11, Dan Housen?
Of course, as always.
Okay.
Always. Don't want to get cursed.
Dan Housen.
Just for, for Goose Lesnar, number 11 has a point of zero, just to clarify, doesn't just give points.
Yes, Goose Lesnar will understand that.
Now, he will mess up his entire algorithm that he stays up all day.
Do you know who's our number one match club person?
No.
I think it's John Cena.
I could see that.
Yeah, I could see that.
Who's he's the guy?
You know who I'm going to rat you out to?
Who?
Dominic Mysterio.
Go ahead.
It doesn't matter.
You want to lie because I could probably beat up Dominic Mysterio.
You can't touch Oba.
You can't touch Oba.
How dare you sort of be smirked, Dominic Mysterio.
I could beat up Dominic Mysterio.
You were bigger and stronger than I got like 50 pounds on Dom.
You were his favorite.
What's wrong with you?
I'm still a big one.
It's just what you're trying to make me scared of him.
I'm almost scared of Dom.
Yeah, I'm going to rat you out to Dom.
You know what, you may not be hurt physically by Dom.
But you know what one thing he will do.
Did he probably roast pretty good?
No, he will break your heart.
You will burn my heart.
Don't go back in my heart.
And that, my friend, you can't recover from.
You can't recover from a broken heart, Sunti.
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I recover from a broken heart.
Dude, you're not supposed to be able to recover from a severed vertebrae
from your body, all right?
Because that's what's going to happen when I write you out to Oba.
He is going to mortal combat fatality you.
Look, I have to point this out as well.
Finn Balor chasing of Dom.
They didn't do it for you?
No.
Maybe we do need the demon.
But do you know why?
Why?
Because Dom's never been afraid of Finn Balor,
and they never showed that this is a different Finn Balor.
He looks like the same Finn Balor that he was with Judgment Day.
And that Finn Balor is not strong.
That Finn Balor always have tip for Tet like beef with Dom
and they would go back and forth.
But it's not this,
it doesn't have the same kind of like,
why is Dom and McMisteria running away type of scenario?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, the Finn Balor, the Finn Balor that people want,
this is, I still think this is the Finn Balor that hit six
finishers that Damien Priest and didn't win.
That's the Finn Balor that I see in front of me.
That's the Finn that I see in front of me.
There's nothing different from Finn Balor.
It sucks.
It hurts my heart.
And I don't think Finn Balor is doing a great job of selling
that he doesn't want to hurt JD.
You know, he's walking in like a baby face
that has no history between him and Dom.
Does that make sense?
I hear you.
Yeah.
He beat up JD with no remorse.
Whereas if you look at how the Judgment Day
when they booted out Finn Balor,
there was a lot of hesitation.
There's a like, we don't want to do this,
but you're making us do this type of sadness and emotions
from Liv or Kel and JD.
There was anger, but when Finn Balor comes in
and throws JD over the outside, throws against LAD,
I see nothing there that goes, oh man,
this is hurting Finn Balor or this is making Finn Balor pissed.
No, he's coming out and was the crowd popped there.
Am I crazy?
Was it not as like crazy as you thought it would be?
I definitely thought it'd be crazy here.
I don't think it landed as well as a,
as it probably should have.
I still feel that you and I said this a long time ago
and I felt like people were judging me
because I said, you can't build Finn Balor off
of Dominic Mysterio.
And this is my first instance of proof you're on them
that you can't build Finn Balor off the back
of Dominic Mysterio without having Finn Balor change.
The demon.
So he's not on the list.
Okay, all right.
So then who is our number one, who had the Srig?
I mean, maybe, okay.
This might be, this might be Oba.
This one might be Oba and Lesley.
I thought that was, I still think that's the most
interesting thing that happened this week specifically.
I think it was the most entertaining thing on Raw
and I look at Smackdown and Randy's beatdown
of Mark Cardona was not as nasty as it probably should have been
and his promo didn't work at turning the crowd.
So I think the most successful needle movers this week
were Oba and Brock.
Oba won and Brock at two.
I would do that.
Yeah, Oba won Brock too.
Brock, Brock slash Paul Hamer.
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I think here, I think you can slot in Randy.
I think Randy at three.
You are right.
When Paul was saying overrated,
one of the rulers was like, dangerous, right?
Dangerous waters.
Dangerous waters and all of a sudden they're like,
that's a lot of ammo for people that don't like Oba.
Not me, of course.
I'm on the train.
General admission.
No meals on this train.
You have to bring your own train.
You ever seen snowpiercer?
I have seen snowpiercer.
Yeah, you're in the bag eating the,
what is it like the bars of cockroaches?
Still on the train, bro.
I've in the front.
I got my own aquarium.
I got the movie.
What's happens in the movie, Santi?
I think I guess the poor people take over the train.
The back of the train takes over the front of the train
with Chris Evans.
Number four.
You know, there's a show snowpiercer now.
They made it into a show, yeah.
Anyways.
Number four.
Number four.
Damien.
I'm right in the world of our true Damien.
Jacob, maybe you know, maybe Stephanie and Liv here.
Stephanie.
I like Stephanie.
I like Stephanie and Liv to definitely be on the list.
I think Katie and Ria are not on it.
Okay.
Any love for the irresistible forces?
I love that.
I like them.
No, I like them.
I like them, but like the like two weeks of disqualifications
and probably another one here coming up at Madison Square Garden.
Not doing a bell of twins, the bell of twins.
The Bella clones.
They're far more interesting as clones.
They're far more interesting as clones.
Yeah.
The Bella clones.
Any love for Penta, defeating Dawn?
I didn't like that.
He wanted to roll up.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
You know what?
Give me.
Give me Stephanie.
No.
Okay.
Jay Hueso.
There's a lot of conversation about is he the travel chave?
You know, he's giving orders.
Okay.
Roman C.M.
Punk then.
I think I would put Jay first.
I'm a little bit more.
Is Jay in your thumbnail or your title?
He's going to be in the thumbnail.
Okay.
Let's see your title.
Okay.
Fine.
Okay.
Fine.
Roman J.
Stephanie.
Roman.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I like this.
I like this.
C.M.
Punk.
Roman.
No love for Jimmy.
I want to tell Jimmy that you don't say the Usos if you want.
That's how many have we gotten eight?
We have three more four more slots.
Okay.
Any love for Damien and our truth, the Wepa truth.
You can put them as a tag team.
Yeah.
They won.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Put them a tent.
Put them a tent.
Put them a tent.
Put them a tent.
The Wepa truth.
It's like a YouTube series.
No, but well set you free.
Welcome to the Wepa truth.
All right.
Seven, eight, nine.
You said Stephanie and Liv.
So we're going to put.
Yeah.
Stephanie and Liv.
I leave this with nine.
Leave this with nine, sir.
You know what?
You know what?
I wouldn't bring it up in the pod.
But I don't like the Grande blending of the universe.
It's so confusing.
Keep it in Mexico.
Keep it in Mexico.
Keep it in Mexico.
Yeah.
Because when Grande Americano is kissing babies and saying awesome speeches where you said
Mexico is not a color or where you're born.
It's a culture.
But I love the line of a Mexican can be born wherever he damn well places.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Really damn cool.
Right.
And then he comes back and I know it's on commercial and he cuts a promo about I am the original.
Grande Americano way.
You're like, okay.
You know.
All right.
They bring it back to you.
You being a surface level heel.
And then what's confusing is they constantly bring it up.
And they probably it's part of the story line here and then you cheer OG and OG is like,
I'm going to tell you in my language.
Gracias.
You're just like, what are you doing here?
Yeah.
It's so much more interested in Mexico way more interesting than what's going on over there.
But why do they keep showing it is my question on the main product if it's different?
Is it weird to you?
I think it is weird.
I 100% agree with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
We still need nine here.
And then you have eight.
We are our Americanos.
We like.
Oh no.
Kiss me.
El culo.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Stop it.
And now you can see the clearest day who they are because it looks like their mass is getting
bigger and bigger because they have to talk.
Okay.
Number nine.
Any love for or Jacob?
Yeah.
You know, even though Drew and Jacob possibly perished and died, you want speed.
What about Jelly Roll?
Great promo with Randy.
Oh, that was great.
That was great.
And he has a match in great slam poetry with Kit Wilson.
Dang.
Okay.
Maybe we'll have a truth is not on this.
Okay.
It might be Jelly Roll nine and then at 10, can we just cheat and put Drew slash Jacob?
Wow.
No love for speed.
I'm telling.
Right.
Damien.
Yeah.
Jacob and Drew.
What manager is doing their best job right now?
Adam or.
Well, good old magnus.
Probably Adam technically.
I'd say.
It sounds like he signed Oba.
You know, I thought that's a managerial win.
Good point.
Good point.
All right.
Here's your list for the new new order at number 11, Dan Housen.
Yeah.
Number 10.
We have Drew and Jacob number eight.
And nine, we have Jelly Roll number eight.
Live Morgan number seven, seven, seven.
Okay.
Number six.
Oostles number five.
Rowan Reigns number four.
Sam Punk.
Number three.
Any more number two.
Rock and ball.
And number one.
If the bloodlines coming back.
Does Punk call in for reinforcements?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
Who?
He's a lone wolf, man.
He's a lone wolf, but he does have friends from the other side.
Who?
I'm asking you.
Who's the other side?
Little Ethan Page.
Oh, Ricky Saints.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I'm.
I'm.
I'm.
I got it.
It's such a good team.
Anyways, maybe.
Maybe not.
I don't think so.
I think I think the play is CM Punk versus the world.
If he has equalizers, I don't think it hits as well.
I agree.
I got it.
Alright, let's bring it home.
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It's just Jo.
Jo Benitez.
Jo Exotic.
Jo Velez.
Joey Romig.
Jonathan Cox.
Johnny Owens.
Jordan Jordymarte.
Jose Oliveira, HoSue Navaro.
Juan Lamelli.
Juan Vega.
Juliane Dean.
Juliana Sarfie.
Julian Wainwright.
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Brother, this is, hey, Jellie and Randy is going to see this one. Yeah. Oh boy, you fell
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