Isaac Weishaupt| Are the Epstein Files, AI, and UFO Disclosure Connected?

0:00I think we're witnessing the biggest conspiracy of all time, much bigger than JFK. I mean, much bigger than anything that has ever been experienced. And I believe, you know, luckily I had all of this research over the years of various elements of the occult. And I see certain elements that appear in the have seen files that support a lot of these theories that we've been exploring over the years. All right, we are looks like everything's good. Okay, everyone, welcome to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds. I'm your host, Ben Atanton. And today we have the guest, Isaac Weissop.

1:03I've checked the sky out for a while. I've gone back and checked so much of his stuff out of it. And he is a superstar, in my opinion. So Isaac, welcome to Broadcasting Seeds. Can you tell everybody that might not know who you are, who you are, what you do, and where you, what's the best place for people to find you? Yeah, for sure, man. Thanks for having me. I appreciate anybody who's willing to let me spill my nonsense into their world. So, yeah, so let me give you the sort of short tour, five minute version of who I am. Absolutely. First off, I run the big thing is I run a podcast called a cult symbolism in pop culture. But I'm like, kind of all over the place. I do, I've written nine books so far. Amazon Audible. I kind of dabble in everything. And I have a sub stack. I sometimes write on it because I started out blogging. So that's kind of my, I'm more of a writer. I consider myself a writer because I don't. Okay.

2:03I hadn't planned on being a podcaster or in a, in fact, I went, I kind of had my, I, I didn't release my photo of my face for so many years. Because it wasn't my thing, right? Yeah. Got you. But, but the, the, the, if people are, as they're listening, they can check out my link tree, all my links.com slash Isaac W two a's, right? A lot of people mess up the spelling of Isaac. And that leads me to the bigger, the bigger thing I need to address is that's not my real name. That is a pseudonym I chose many years ago for my protection. And because I started, I started blogging in 2011, started podcasting in 2014. And around 2012 is when I got offers to do interviews. The radio show out of Oklahoma said, hey, we want to interview you guy. What's your name? Is it just a luminary watcher? Because my blog was a luminary watcher.com. I said, well, let me give you a name and I had to come up with a pseudonym.

3:03So I chose the I and the W as a play on a luminary watcher in hindsight. Terrible move because you don't want to get into the conspiracy world with the last name wise out the founder of the Bavarian luminary. So yeah. I always have to address that for newbies who are like, what the heck? This guy's part of the illuminati trying to expose them. I don't think so. You know, so I get that a lot. But yeah, the, the, the journey for me was. Sort of serendipitous. I didn't plan on making this a thing at all. I was just always interested in. You know, I grew up in the 80s and 90s. And I was first exposed to Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse in 2002. I bought a copy. And then around 2004 or five. I don't know exactly. I had a buddy. Turn me on to David likes free. It was a VHS document. Yeah. That's a old school right there. Yeah. It's really old. Yeah. And David Ike was super interested in me saying about his book.

4:05And that was kind of the depth of my knowledge of the occult and conspiracy. I just would listen to it all the time. Because I was trying to make sense of it. Because you know, I'm not like. Some educated guy on hand. I've been around 2011. I had a break. I got my bachelor's done. I was waiting to start my masters, which is in systems engineering, which, you know, which doesn't lend itself to necessarily philosophy or history or a lot of the things I talk about, occult religions and things like that. But systems engineering taught me how to research, taught me how to look at things from a holistic perspective. You know, because that's what it's all about is like systems level thinking. So I start this blog just because I had a two year break. And I was kind of like, well, this might be fun. Let me talk about the things I'm interested in. And you know, one thing leads to another. And all these years later, it's this big thing I do now.

5:05And it's fascinating to me still to this day. I'm still learning to this day. My value I provide for people is transparency and honesty to the point of being a flaw. Like last year or two years ago, maybe last year or two years ago, I did a three hour show. Like who am I? Because I find that to be very important today because things have changed so much since I started where now you've got disinformation agents that are in realm of conspiracy. And we're going to talk a little bit about this idea. The guy got a cast on steam who worked in the Obama administration wrote a paper about how to address conspiracies back in 2008. And there's a bunch of fancy ideas he presents. And the main just of the paper was. Conspiracies can be dangerous. We need to find a way to shut them down. And one way to do that is to put out disinformation to insert disinformation agents within these circles that the conspiracy people research and talk.

6:07So to me, I don't know who to trust anymore. I'm kind of a paranoid guy to begin with. It doesn't help to research conspiracies all the time. But the point is that I try to be as forthcoming and honest as I can be because I don't have an agenda. A lot of these people, I question where their money comes from. I'll give you an example and I'm not picking on this guy. Like I don't have a problem with him, but like Jesse Michaels from American Alchemy. Huge. He was on Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was on his show. Joe Rogan is a new podcast. So this guy's connected, right? And I thought, wow, this guy's, because what we'll put him on my radar was he interviewed a guy named Peter LaVenda, who's very well known in the occult circles. Who's in one of my opinions is one of the guys that knows how everything fits together. And I thought, man, how did this guy score Peter LaVenda out of seemingly nowhere? And then I dug into his background and turns out he's basically works for Peter Teal, which is part of the dark enlightenment stuff.

7:07So is Jesse Michaels part of all this? I don't know. I don't know the guy. He seems like a nice guy. He's very educated. I like what he presents. I just saying that everyone that comes along now, my brain is like, do I trust this person, right? And it's a dangerous place to be, but I think it's necessary. And that's why, that's why I'm trying to say is I tried to be as honest with my listeners as humanly possible, because I don't, I'm not funded by some guy. I'm funded by the people that listen to the show. I don't have an agenda to make them Christians. I don't have an agenda to demonize a political party. I don't, I don't really have those things. I have my opinions and preferences and biases and filters, which is why I did that three hour who am I show? Because I want people to know that. And I think it's important. And a lot of people don't offer that ever. You'll notice like, you know, Joe Rogan hasn't done a three hour show. Who's Joe Rogan? Why do I think what I think? Why do I have the guests on that I have on? You know, it's, again, no shots fired Joe Rogan. I just, in light of the last few years, I've become more skeptical of information that's coming through, whether it's the mainstream media or the alternative stream media.

8:17There's a coordinated orchestrated effort to create our reality, which is where we get into the rounds of the occult magic and Epstein. Absolutely. Cass Sunstein, you brought up. Craziest book, one of the not craziest, but it's basically the liberal left's playbook is that book nudge that I wrote. I'm not trying to get inside. But if you haven't read the book nudge, it basically explains the entire system and how, I mean, it just makes sense is we don't need to do some revolutionary thing. We just nudge, right? Interesting. Yeah, that was around the same year. 2000 says, I don't know. Yeah, Cass Sunstein. It's a great book. It's he's a co-writer of a technical, I think. And then I don't know, you know, I think my audience knows, but at the end of the day, when we talk about somebody like Cass Sunstein, we have to also look at his wife and who she is.

9:18And I don't know if you know, I suspect you do. So, you know, USAID or USAID that was just shut down effectively last year, she was the director of USAID. Oh, interesting. That's his wife. Interesting. Yeah. Connecting more dots. That takes me to another caveat I want to present is that I don't get into. So, like, my content is a mix of. So my forte is I like to take pop culture examples, whether it be music videos, Super Bowl performances, movies. And I watch them and I share the symbolism and the occult philosophies that I find, yep, sort of hidden within the art. And every now and then, I'll dabble into this like conspiracy realm. And part of that conspiracy realm. It gets into geopolitics and these players and political angles.

10:20And I don't really, it's not really my forte. So I know who Cass Sunstein is. I didn't know his wife was in USAID. In fact, I don't even know the whole drama about USAID because it's like, it's not really my purpose. I know it's a thing they shut down because there's, you know, allegations of funding. And I wouldn't be shocked if all that's true, right? Yeah, I don't just miss it. Especially with the FC files, like it's clear that there's a octopus that's. It just shows you the dots. It just connects the dots a little bit. That's it. And I understand the, I tried to not be political either because why? I look at this world that we're in as more of a fight between good and evil versus each other. Not so much, you know, red versus blue or, you know, I think that's all right. Yeah. I agree with you. Right. I agree with you. I think it's, I think the octopus takes over both political parties. Exactly. And frankly, uh, controls both.

11:21So I agree. Yeah. Yeah. I'm totally on the same, on the same thing. And that's why that's another reason I kind of avoid the political stuff. I'm not saying I'm avoiding it on your show. I'm just saying, I don't really dig in and research it because. No. Absolutely. It gets so bickering and it's like, people want to believe what they want to believe. And it's like, oh, I'm like arguing with people. Like, you're going to believe whatever you want to when it comes to that. So let me talk about stuff. It's in movies and stuff. You know what I mean? I'm not moving the football on that. Uh, not, not with people. It's just not right. Right. They're so entrenched that you just have to show them the truth in other ways, right? So yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so like when you talk about illuminati agenda, right? I'll just use that phrase. And cultural manipulation. What does that concept mean to you today? Like in practical terms, right? So I think that a lot of the stuff we're seeing and witnessing, a lot of these like files coming out.

12:22I think it goes back to. I mean, it kind of all connects into the same classical conspiracy theory that exists of a sort of shadow government, a deep state, whatever you want to call it. This line of thought leaders that goes back through. Um, all the groups that all my, you know, my red pill daddies like Bill Cooper. And David, I can talk about these like trilateral commissions, which is also in. If you watch the Epstein video, it's super interesting. Yeah. He's a part of it. The build of birds, Bohemian Grove, all of this stuff, I think. I think you can draw a straight line from these control systems and hidden groups and secret societies. Back through like the age of enlightenment and the occult arts of alchemy and Kabbalah and all these things. And it goes back through John D, who's making contact with aliens and getting this hidden language. And it goes all the way back to the watchers and the Nephilim from the Bible, this sort of fallen angels, right?

13:23And it's all about, it's always about knowledge being handed down, knowledge being power. And you'll find like the same sort of recurring themes when we talk about the occult and a lot of these people that are involved with this stuff. It's always the pursuit of becoming a god. It's always trying to obtain noses or the knowledge. It's trying to locate the, the, uh, the lost word of free masonry or complete the great work of alchemy. It's a lot of this weird coded language. But to me, it's a, uh, I think it goes back to the idea of man trying to become god, man trying to unlock immortality through the philosopher stone or the elixir of life. Or some of the more bizarre stuff that we're reading about in the Epstein files. I don't know what, I don't know what words I can say on your show or tonight that you canceled, but, um, there's, you know, there's theories about. I use coded language like there's theories about using the liquid that comes from someone's body, particularly someone who's, uh, younger.

14:23Like there's theories that that can be life extending. And I think that that's what all this goes into is it's just these guys that are pure narcissists that, uh, decide they can pursue this occult idea of becoming god, because it's not. It's not new thing. This has been the discussion for hundreds and thousands of years right all the way back to the Garden of Eden with the serpent telling Adam and Eve, like, hey, you know, I can open your eyes and make you become like gods. Yeah, I think it's the same phenomenon. It's the same control system. And I think they become literally possessed by demons at some point that they're willing to sell their soul to sell out the human race for their own gain. And what I get into in my research is more about the techniques they use through symbolism and ritual magic, right. Magic is controlling the energy flow. It's always about energy is where it goes back to stealing the loose or however you want to call it.

15:23I think that's what this control system is. And that's what we see with the Epstein emails with this octopus that seems to infiltrate every aspect of life from media to movies to music to politicians. And everything it's because it is all connected and it's kind of confirming all the scary stuff we've been looking at and talking about all these years. So like we just had something huge. Go down like because a lot of your stuff ties back to pop culture, right. Obviously. Yeah. And we just had the halftime performance. So to like so from pop culture moments to symbolic messaging. Like how do you choose what to decide like what do you use? How do you decide what to decode? I guess is the best way to put it. It's kind of a mix, right. It's kind of a mix of what's interesting to me. What are people talking about because as you know in this sort of podcast game, it's it's like show business, right.

16:28There's a business behind this where people want to talk about the trending topics. So I have to balance this game of talking about old stuff that interests me versus new things that are happening that don't interest me. So like for instance, you said the Super Bowl. I don't care about the Super Bowl. I don't care about money. I don't care about the VMAs. I don't care. I don't like I don't enjoy watching these things. No, I don't have a problem with bad money. In fact, I listen to rap music and regatone and like, it's fine. I don't hate bad money. I just it's not that interesting to me. But it's one of those things that everybody every year because I've been doing it for so long is like, when are you going to cover the analysis? When are you going to talk about the symbolism? So I'll I'll provide one and it's sometimes elements of conspiracy clickbait, right? Because I'm like, well, this is what everyone's talking about. Here you go. I'll doing my best. There's my best guess. Yeah, right. But the the the point of like trying to decide what to talk about. There's it's a mixture of things and another one is like, what do I deem to be something that I find important that we need to understand and have a more factual basis.

17:36And that is why I did a four part MK Ultra deep dive in January because I'm constantly referring to mind control constantly talking about project monarch. I'm constantly referring to MK Ultra stuff. And I thought, you know, it would be who've me and my listeners. If I really took the time and it took me a couple months, I read through several books compiled the notes and presented it like, okay, here's. You know, like I read Gordon Thomas's book, which is a factual re re re re retelling of the MK Ultra story. As well as like David McGowan's program to kill, which is more about serial killers and a little bit fringes on conspiracy all the way down to. Kathy O'Brien's transformation of America, which is like heavy conspiracy territory. She's making some wild claims in the book. And I mean, lo and behold, I kind of think she was telling the truth with the first time I read a year many years ago, I was like, I don't know about all this man. And I can't say what she's saying, claiming the book on this show, but like she's saying a lot of crazy stuff.

18:38And like Ronald Reagan was doing this thing to me. And I'm like, this is crazy. But like now that I see all these FC files, I'm like, well, maybe it's not so crazy. Yeah. So like there's a mixer of things. And I actually enjoy doing the deep dives into the topics that I think need to be addressed by, you know, by me and others. A lot of people in the conspiracy world will kind of mention MK Ultra and passing and I thought, well, I'd like to learn it for myself and see it straight through. And like the Poisoner and Chief book about Sydney Gottlieb was really eye opening. And like to sum up four episodes worth of research, the takeaway I have was actually a multiple times I saw many different sources. I did that the CIA and Sydney Gottlieb had a fantasy of controlling the minds of everybody. They wanted a full control system. This wasn't just, oh, we want to program assassins to take out political oppositions.

19:38No, this went further. It was toying with the idea of full and utter control over another human and getting rid of the free will of humanity. That was like one of the main ideas they kept kicking around. And then Kathy O'Brien, one of the reasons I believe Kathy O'Brien stories because she mentions one of the handlers telling her that he was like, look, don't you understand what we're doing here. This is us controlling. This is the 5% controlling the 95% and it's not because we want to control you. It's because you guys wanted this way. It's because you guys don't want to be bothered to follow what's going on in the world and to know who these players are. You just want to go to work, watch the football and just live your life, which I get. I'm actually not opposed to that. I'm like, you know what, he's right. I don't want to research all this crap and try to figure out who's controlling us. I just want to go to work and get my little vacation in and watch a little football and relax. But that's how these elitists think. They think we want them to control them. And it goes into a lot of weird territories.

20:39Yeah, the bread and circus, right? For sure. Right. And entertainment is, of course, the best way, you know, Francis Bacon was talking about this about entertainment, entertainment being the best way to send a message. Right. It's kind of like taking your medicine with something that tastes good is kind of what they're doing. Right. And I'm still in the fence about about which elements of the illuminati stuff is nefarious versus good or bad because like I'm an orthodox Christian, but I also have researched a fair amount of new age content material in my life that I found to be very rewarding. Right. I don't know. Like I'm not here to say everything occult is bad and evil because it's not. No, I think it gets a little subjective and it gets a little, you know, I think like the left hand path folks, those are the guys that are into more of the I can become a god. Like those are kind of the dangerous people right versus sort of your white witches would argue that they're okay because they're looking to do magic to, you know, make the world a better place or whatever they're trying to do.

21:49But you know, ultimately like if you if you want to walk the path of Christianity, which I'm not like I guess I said that earlier, it's like I'm not I'm not here to convince people to Christianity is the right thing because I see a lot of stuff there that I question too. But you know, if you want to walk the path, like we're not supposed to be interested in these new age things in witchcraft and all this stuff. So I live in this realm of interest in all things. I don't necessarily practice the occult stuff. The closest I got was I got a tarot reading a couple of weeks ago in Las Vegas for fun. And the lady was like, she nailed it. Matt she was like on the money with stuff that I was like, yo, like this is kind of crazy. But that doesn't mean I advocate for it. I know, of course, you know, anyway. Yeah. So we had talked about in our before the episode, like getting into the Epstein files a little bit. So I'm just going to open that gate for you.

22:49Sure. That's a big kind of get into there, whether it's a cult symbolism or, you know, you know, whatever it is that's got to do with it because my wife and I started kind of talking about it the other night. She's not really into any of this, but her friends are questioning her because they know who I am. And so I, yeah, I've kind of shied away from it on the podcast, but I'm going to open the gate for you to do it. What you want to do with it. Okay. Yeah. I think we're witnessing the biggest conspiracy of all time, much bigger than JFK. I mean, much bigger than anything that has ever been experienced. And I believe, you know, luckily I had all this research over the years of various elements of the occult. And I see certain elements that appear in the Epstein files, right?

23:49That support a lot of these theories that we've been exploring over the years. For instance, back in, back in January of 25, I started a five episode series on the dark enlightenment. And it's kind of a long topic. I'll try to get through it in maybe like 10 minutes. I'll give you like the short version of it. Take a song as you want, though. Okay. And because it again goes back to, it's like this concept of cycles, right? Because these elites, they believe that they are, they have a responsibility or they have the power or the leverage to create the world as they see it. And of course, they want to make the new order. Of course, they want to put us in a digital matrix controlled by the AI systems so that they can have full surveillance and full control over us. And the way that they're pursuing that is through this philosophy called the dark enlightenment. And when we talk about the dark enlightenment, there's a couple.

24:52Because again, you'll notice like Epstein was researching a ton of philosophy stuff, you know, and sciences and cutting edge sciences, quantum and all that crazy stuff. Yeah. So philosophies are how our entire world is shaped. And so that's why these things are important and why they matter. And from here, we can go back to the 1990s, where there was a, there was a collective called the CCRU. And the CCRU at over in England, there was at this, at this college campus and a guy named Nick Land, a philosopher student, joins this collective and ultimately sort of takes it over. And what the CCRU was doing was various philosophical practices, ideas and writings. And this included channeling entities, channeling demons and demonic spirits. They refer to it as the outside, right? It's these adversarial forces, these, he compared them to HP Lovecrafts entities, right?

25:56Okay. And these entities from the abyss and so on, which when I read this, when I heard about this, you know, triggers all these different side tangents of occult stuff. So like Alistair Crowley is probably the most famous sort of occultist who was practicing various forms of magic and contact with entities, right? Well, he had an acolyte named Kenneth Grant, not as well known, but very well known in the occult communities. And Kenneth Grant basically took some of the rituals and ideas that Crowley had and implemented them in his own new magical group called the typhonian auto template orientus. And the whole purpose of that group was to make contact with HP Lovecraftian entities, like Typhon from the abyss is one of the big things that's why it's called typhonian. And it was all, it was all sort of like an extension of Crowley's attempt to make contact with lamb, this gray headed alien entity from 1918.

27:02Okay, this goes like deep into weeds of stuff and people are curious, or if they've never heard of Crowley, right? He's the guy who did what they call the omelantra working. He makes contact with this wizard. It's all sex magic stuff, by the way, which will come up later probably in our discussion. But the wizard shows him the way and the way is depicted as lamb. It's gray headed alien that he then draws in. There's not much information about lamb besides he draws his picture in a preface to a commentary on a hollainable vast book, right? Yeah. So from this kind of grants like, okay, bet we're talking aliens, this channel, these aliens. And he gets into all this kind of wacky out there stuff about trying to go in the dark side of the catalytic tree of life, which is, you know, the refuse system of cabala. It's what they call the tunnels of sets. And from here, you get into all kinds of like weird stuff. But anyway, my point being, it then influenced a cult of lamb, where I think it was Michael Beatrix.

28:06Beatrix was the guy running that. I don't quote me on that, but this other cult was trying to make contact with this race of aliens called lamb and so on. Point is, a cult stuff connects into making contact with aliens, which is what Jack Parsons was doing with, you know, Eloran Hubbard with the Babylon working. That's again, these are massive rabbit hole topics worth hours of discussion on this on the cells. So here comes the CC are you in the 90s and they're basically saying the same thing. They're like, we're going to make contact with these dark entities and they call it the outside. And from this comes the philosophy, Nick Land calls the dark enlightenment and it embraces this idea called accelerationism, which is the idea that capitalism, particularly in America, capitalism will result in the destruction of the human race. And all this sort of social woke liberal stuff of sort of worrying about taking care of people and having a safety net and taking care of the poor and poverty and all that stuff.

29:16All those things are just slowing it down and that's unnecessary. We need to just take the guardrails off of capitalism and go into hyper capitalism and just let the chips fall where they may and have all to basically have all the pores die while the wealthy inherit the land, right. And this was embraced by Peter Teal, who's all over the Epstein files. And you know, among other things, yes. And none of this stuff is like secretty conspiracy stuff. Like this is all facts, factual because of the Silicon Valley. I've been saying since I can remember that these nerds are going to kill us. It's like kind of a phrase that dropped out of my many years of talk. Yeah, right. And it's more true every year. The Silicon Valley nerds like Peter Teal, they subscribe to this stuff. Yeah, the Payton Mafia, man. Payton Mafia, right. They all do. And that's why that's why you see.

30:17And it goes from Nick Land at the CCRU to a guy named Curtis Jarvin who wrote a bunch of stuff based on these ideas of accelerationism. And he also inserts a little bit of language of how they can do this, how they can achieve it. And what that requires is to embrace neo-camera-ism, neo-reactionary philosophies. And these are the idea that we need to get rid of the Constitution. We need to replace the president with what they call a CEO king. And of course, this resonates with a lot of libertarians who think, you know, we should run everything like a business, including the government. Yeah. People like Peter Teal and all these Silicon Valley libertarians, they embrace this idea. And they're like, yes, that's the more efficient way of doing things. We need to have a CEO king. And then the CEO king will have a hierarchy of victims all ran by Silicon Valley elites, right? So that's why Peter Teal is looking at these things. So like the C-steading Institute, that's why you're hearing Trump talk about freedom cities.

31:19It's this idea that these Silicon Valley guys, they want to own chunks of America. And instill their own AI surveillance, 15-minute city states, because that will be the perfect way of living. And again, all of this goes back through a called belief system. This goes back to, it goes back through to great reset. We talked about this in 2020. People have a very short memory that that's exactly what a lot of the stuff was. Francis Bacon wrote about this in the New Atlantis, which was all about America being in the New Atlantis. It was about a scientific theocracy being the leaders of our nation. Because they're always into sciences, right? And then you've got Manley P. Hall's Secret Destiny of America, which basically says the same thing. I just discussed those books in, I don't know, a few years ago. I think it was in my great reset series. But this is what their plan has always been. And this is what they're trying to do now.

32:19They're trying to achieve it in a variety of manners, I believe. And the, you know, and it gets into wacky stuff like Elon Musk, even, there's a connection between sort of spirituality with the sciences here. Because like Elon Musk, he actually met Grimes, one of his many baby mamas, through a post he made, where he was joking about a thing called Rocco's Basilisk. And she commented on it and he was like, hey, you know what that means? That's cool, whatever, right? And what they're talking about is a philosophy that I believe they fully embrace. It's a thought exercise that what if AI is an actual entity or an actual God? And it manifests and becomes self-conscious. However many years from now, will the AI look at the human race and say, hey, you guys tried to put guardrails up and slow down my manifestation?

33:23What's wrong with you? And then punish us versus will the AI look at people like the Silicon Valley nerds? You know, your Peter deals and Elon Musk and all these guys that are really actively trying to fuel up AI as the new sort of God. It will see them and say, it will bless them, right? It will say, wow, thank you for incarnating me and I am the God and you can be my disciples or whatever, right? It's like kind of that idea. And I think Elon Musk is, I have a crazy theory that Elon Musk put a knurling chip in his own brain, because he's very strange. And yeah. And a demon has possessed him, right? That's kind of my rough theory about that. In essence, right? Yeah. Wow. So there's a lot of elements of the dark enlimit that you can see connecting in and it gets really wacky, right? Like, I listened to an interview with Nick Land. And he says in the interview that the CC are you that he was working with in numerology equated to the number six, six, six, six.

34:27Jake and Dinos Chapman, they, do you remember the, um, do you remember the Balenciaga scandal a couple of years ago? Yeah. Okay. And the whole scandal was that there were ads that Balenciaga was airing of kids and inappropriate attire and positions. And a lot of people were upset about this and right? Rightfully so. And they're like, what, what are these people doing? Well, I mean, we read the Epstein files. We see what they're doing now, but it was a very heavy conspiracy moment. And that people started looking at the fashion industry as a whole and Jake Chapman from the, the Jake and Dinos Chapman brothers, they do art and, um, what do you call it? Like, I guess like statues or something like, what do you call it? Yeah, they do, they do a variety of things. They have one in particular. I'm not going to say the word on here, but if you look it up, it, it's F face is the name of the particular piece of art and what it is.

35:28Okay. It's a child and the child has an appendage on his nose on his face. That's very inappropriate, right? Yeah. Turns out Jake Chapman also part of the CC are you in the 90s? I mean, what are the odds, right? Jake Chapman, ironically, when I was right when I was doing my dark enlightenment series had released in the middle of that had released a documentary you can watch on YouTube called accelerate or die and it lays out the philosophy in it. And it's kind of interesting because it shows, uh, it shows an angle of capitalism being kind of detrimental to the human race, right? And, and it points to stuff like, hey, there's a island of plastic garbage out there, which I agree with that kind of stuff. I'm like, yeah, that's right. And it's there. And it's fact. But then it kind of lumps all these things together and it's like, and therefore we should just get rid of this whole system. I don't know. I think you could still salvage some stuff, but it was AI as an actual entity that's trying to reformat the entire planet.

36:36And it's funny because this goes back to Kubrick in 2001, the space Odyssey where humans are part of the evolutionary process to seed our, our, our next entity that will take us over. And that's the AI. These guys watch a lot of sci-fi. So I don't know if they're telling the truth. And this is really where we're headed, which is terrifying or they're just fanciful ideas that are crazy and out there, right? But the argument is that a lot of the science fiction that these occultists were consuming are the reasons why people like Werner von Braun and Jack Parsons invented rockets to get us to outer space and supposedly to the moon, which I don't believe we ever put a human being on the moon. That's another story for another day. I think that's just part of more propaganda of it was called war propaganda, I believe. But there is this idea that the whole purpose of the human race is to bootstrap artificial intelligence, which is what you see in 2000 on a space Odyssey. If you keep reading the books by Arthur C. Clarke, that's where it goes is creating a digital consciousness because that's where the monoliths they came from that they came from our digital consciousness cells trying to put a sort of monolith entity to wake up other races as to what's going on.

37:46But yeah, the whole dark alignment thing is again, massive, massive amount of information that I think is super relevant. And I think it connects into a lot of the occult stuff like we get into Saturn worship with it. You get into like his Elon Musk, he renamed Twitter to X X is the num is the Osiris resurrection, which is like their this big occult fantasy of Osiris. And Grock the logo went from XI, which is 11, which is the number of magic as per Alistair Crowley to the symbol of Saturn. And it goes on and on and on. I mean, it's just it's just like this massive thing that keeps growing. In fact, I'm writing a book on it. If I can ever find time to finish this thing. I've got it outlined out. I just things keep popping up that I'm like, this is outrageous, man. Yeah, so we bring up dark enlightenment, obviously, right? Do we do we find it and it's like, what is there?

38:48Because it clicks with me that there's like some very like Luciferian types that like, how does that link in? Yeah, so they they they view Lucifer as not a bad guy. Lucifer is the one that can enlighten men kind. This is kind of like the archetype of the Prometheus, right? Prometheus gives the shining one literally, right? Yeah, and you see that at Rockefeller's Plaza, which is of no coincidence, right? Yeah, they think that loose, you know, they subscribe to a sort of gnostic belief system, meaning the God that we worship the Abrahamic God is actually an evil force. It's just y'all to both demierge force created a false material planet and were stuck in this prison planet. And they think that they can achieve this noses that will allow them to pass on and go back to the proper realm and the pleroma, which is.

39:48I'm working on a film analysis of under the silver lake. Have you seen that movie? I have. Okay, yeah, I'm not giving any plot spoilers. That's kind of what the movie's about is the elites, the elites finding a way to hack through the matrix and become one with their gods, right? And then this always like Luciferian stuff of trying to try to wake Adam and even eve up in the garden, be like, hey, this guy's a false god. Like, let me wake you up. Let me open your eyes and up teach you how to become gods. He's eliminating you to make you sit here and worship him all this time. Like, he's a controlling mean jealous God. Why would that be the real God? Yeah. So I was just wondering if there's a link there, because I think it just ties things together. So you have the loose pharians. But you also have this other side that's the more well, so I always, you know, I don't know where I heard the term. The Lucy's in the Mollies. Oh, I've never heard that. Okay.

40:48So Lucy's are loose pharians. Mollies are Malachians. Oh, interesting. Okay. And you know the Mollock, obviously, the stories of Mollock and who that is. But that there's Luciferians and Malachians. And right now, they're kind of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Because they're technically at odds sort of like they want to go the same place. But with the Epstein stuff, there's a lot of Malachian undercurrent because of the child sacrifice and the... All the children stuff because Mollock, if you go back to the Bible and other texts, it's this child issue, right? And that's very Malachian. So it's the Lucy's versus the Mollies. But right now, they're kind of working together. So it's just something that went through my head that I thought I'd bring up.

41:49Yeah. This is kind of the million dollar topic. In fact, I got this book out. I got to start reading it here. It's the death and resurrection of the beloved son. And it's the transformation of child sacrifice in Judaism and Christianity. And another book by an Orthodox priest about ball. I thought I had it over here. It must be downstairs. That's the next thing I'm trying to wrap my head around. So what was the other one? Death and resurrection of... This one's called the death and resurrection of the beloved son. Gotcha. By John D. Levinson. This is going to be an expensive show. Yeah, I do. It's bought $100 worth of books this morning. Yeah, I did. That's how I roll, too, is I get... I'm all down and then the next thing you know they end up down there. Yeah, because my problem was I interviewed Jay Dyer last night. And he laid all of these books because I'm trying to figure it. Because I don't, like I said, I don't really get into geopolitics or stealing the Rothschild's blood dynasty and all that stuff. Right.

42:49But he... But I'm like, okay, I got to learn more. So I bought a Rothschild book and a Carol Quigley book. But yeah, and then it's the problem of like when do I read these things and take notes? Because, you know, reading is one thing. Reading it and then taking notes and regurgitating. It's like a whole nother thing. Oh, sure. But yeah, the mollox and the... And the Lucy's, that's interesting. The... The Lucy's in the Mollies. Yeah. The Lucy's in the Mollies. Yeah, that's... And that's where it goes when I wrote my second book called Sacrifice Magic Behind the Mike about occult symbolism in hip hop. And I'm like a pretty big hip hop fan. And what's your favorite... I'm not the fan. I'm not the fan either. I'm not the fan either. Like you're... I like gangster rap, man. Like trap music. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a 90s... Yeah. I went to high school in Connecticut. Oh, okay. Right by the city. So I, you know, grew up in the time of Wu Tang. Same, dude. Same.

43:49Yeah. I'm totally like 90s, like I was just deep in hip hop, man. Like Wu Tang and not... Yeah. And we'll talk about this more, too. We'll talk about this more after, too. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, because there's a lot of places. That's what got me into it. And like over the years, I've sort of held in, like, you know, some years, like, there's not a whole lot of music that I can really vibe with. Yeah. But I still listen to the modern stuff that comes out. But the... Yeah. Wu Tang's probably, you know, Wu Tang, Jedi mind tricks and nonfiction are my top three for me. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm also an East Coast guy. So what we're talking about, we're talking about... Oh, yeah. Ball and Molo. Ball and Molo. To me, sorry. That's the guy. The one thing that I do... Well, what I do think I understand about all this is... It's all about energy, right? Because, like everyone says, you know, when you get into the sciences of quantum physics, I took two semesters of physics in college. And we talked... Quantum, like, blew my mind. Like, there's some crazy stuff that drops out of quantum physics. Yeah. And one of the ideas is, like, you know, we're all energy, right?

44:50Like E equals MC squared, it was Einstein's theory of relativity, I think that's what that was. But what that's saying is, like, matter, you know, this pen, the mass of the pen, maybe small, but there's so much energy in this, because if you could get down to the quantum level, you would see that it's just a bunch of atoms. And like, nothing's solid. Like, that's what's weird about the quantum realm is like, nothing's solid. And everything comes down to energy, especially for people like Epstein, who were really into a lot of this theoretical physics and quantum. And I listened to Richard Seer, an interviewed, Juliet Bryant, I believe was her name, she wrote a book about a survivor of Epstein. And I was aware of all the modeling agency stuff that Epstein was involved with before. And there was a modeling agency that I always called MC2 modeling, because that's why the way it's spelled when you research it online. And the journalist, she called it MC2 modeling, which makes more sense.

45:52And I thought, yeah, that would make sense that Epstein has a modeling called MC2, because that is talking about the formula for energy, because that's what these weirdos are into. They're into taking advantage and assaulting all these people and young people, because it's not, it's not always, because like, their kink is the energy and the violation and the depravity and the negative fear-based emotions that come from it, right? And this is funny, because this is what David Ike's been, now David Ike, I will caveat, David Ike, his stuff makes a lot of sense to me, more so than anyone else's, where he loses me. And this could be my sort of indoctrination into Christianity as a child, is he goes into the Gnostic stuff, like he kind of thinks like, yeah, we're in this prison planet. But that aside, he does talk a lot about how these people that are into all this stuff, they harness dark energies. And this includes abusing people so that they can unload a lot of this fear and energy, which I also suspect is part of the whole reason we're getting these Epstein file drops to begin with, because it's unleashing a lot of negativity, like everyone's scared and

46:56panicking and I'm a mess too, right? I'm reading this stuff and it's, it's, I didn't want to be proven right on any of this stuff, right? It's like I always talk about like conspiracies, we're more fun when I got it, when I started this, because it was like, I'd watch ancient aliens, they'd be like, ooh, did the aliens build these stones? Wow. And it's like, oh, it's just fun to think about. But now it's like, we don't know where the conspiracy ends and reality begins. And so it makes it very like, induces a lot of fear and anxiety, which I believe they can also utilize for their ball or mull lock worship stuff. For sure. Agreed. I, I shut it down like my, I started digging into the Epstein files and I was like, no, I'm done. Like I, it's hard, I was, I don't want to enter this, I don't want to open myself up to it. It's one of those things, you know, yeah, it's not worth it. The juice doesn't worth the squeeze to me. So I go back and forth on that like on the one hand as a guy who's covered every big

47:59and not every, but most large conspiracies as they've sort of unfolded, you know, all the way back to, you know, that school in Connecticut, they had the thing that Alex, Alex got in trouble for, I'm trying to be careful with the words I use on your shell court. All the way back to that, right? I talked about that. And it's, it's, I can't resist looking into it because there's so much that now I'm kind of like going back through the catalog and be like, well, wait a minute. Like we talked about this back in 2013. That turns out there's some validity to that. That's weird, right? But I get, I also get how it's consuming because I literally can't open a social media or a news tab without it triggering multiple things of like, oh, my God, I got to do a show about this topic now and this topic and that one. And I just did one side, I also run a podcast with my wife called Breaking Social Norms where it's more of a, it started out four years ago as she was the normie.

49:00And I was the sort of confersi guy we talked about, and tried to debate it out. And like, because she's a good debater, I'm a terrible debater, ironically, she's Greek so she can fight all day long. And I'm terrible at it, right? So, so it's kind of a good, it's kind of a good dynamic as it forces me to sort of defend my points. And like in the last six months, it's totally flipped and now it's like, she's full black pill. Like nothing's real anymore. And I'm like, I didn't want everything's black pill, right? Oh my God. It's amazing. It's a weird time right now for everybody who's trying to unpack those things. Yeah. What do you make of the, and how do you link back, if you've even done this, this, like UAP disclosure stuff, how does that roll in what this, because it definitely, this is one of the things in my know my audience is so sick of it. This all rhymes, everything rhymes, right? Everything, there's threads that link all this trash, all this stuff. Yeah.

50:01How does this UAP disclosure stuff link in, in, in your opinion? I think that it's the big form of disclosure that we're looking down the barrel of right now. I've written two books, in fact, I got one over here. I've written two books on it in 20, and I've written about it in, so my most, my most popular book is called The Dark Pathor in 2017, and I talked about the alien agenda in there for a few chapters, but then I've always been like an alien guy my whole life, always been fascinated by it. So in 2020, I dedicated to write two books, aliens, UFOs, and the occult, user illusion one and two, all right? One is like my theory doctrine philosophies of what I think is going on. Number two is basically taking those ideas and walking through the most popular films and saying like, see, this is the, this is the stuff they were showing you, and this supports the stuff I was saying in part one, right? So big, big old topic, the short version, I believe it, disclosure of aliens and entities

51:07is like the, the next stage of things, they claim that. So we know that Steven Spielberg is releasing a new movie called Disclosure Day, and if you notice the trailer shows like a shapeshifter person, right? Yep. I think that is going to be no different than jaws or close encounters where it's, they know Steven Spielberg can speak to the subconscious of the masses. Like when jaws, I wasn't, I wasn't alive yet, but when jaws was released apparently people were scared to go in the ocean and things like this, right? So they know that his movies can have an effect on the masses. So I think, and then there's theories that supposedly Trump's going to give some, we are not alone speech, which I mean, that would be a perfect distraction from the Epstein files is probably the only thing to make us stop talking about the Epstein files at this point seems like. And the scary part about the Epstein files, just to interject this, that they've only released half of them. I know. That's, that's crazy. Right? That's just crazy. Anyway.

52:08Yeah. And I'm with you in the sense that like sometimes I look at this stuff and I think, you know, there's so many people talking about this, like I'll let them cover it and I'll cover something else. Yeah. And the reduction is so strategic, it's actually frightening. So. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that it's possible that what happens is, you know, July, second, they dropped the other three million, July, third, here comes the July, or July, fourth, I should say comes the independent state type, we're not alone speech. You know what I mean? Like that. Very well. What happens? Like the, like the movie, frankly. Right. Right. And it would, it would be so fitting because that's how they do things. That's how they roll. On top of that, Spielberg's movie drops June 16th. So that gives everybody a couple, two, three weeks to watch it and get sort of indoctrinated and then, you know, I just foresee it happening like that. But the, the alien agenda is, is the big agenda and I'm in the camp of aliens are interdimensional entities.

53:08Okay. That's just what I believe. That was the question. I was just going to ask you. Oh, okay. Yeah. And again, this goes back, the lineage of this goes all the way back to what the Bible talks about with the fallen angels, the watchers, the Nephilim and so on. And then there's so much, there's so much evidence to me that points to like, this is a phenomenon that's been happening forever. Then, you know, John D. Nebra Kelly, we're doing the, the rituals where they made contact with entities, the, the angels they call them. And he gets the inoki and language, right? The inoki and language was given to us from the entities and they say, Hey, you're on talk to us. Here you go. Here's the language. Okay. Alistair Crowley sort of takes down this, this, this inoki language and modifies it to do the Amalantra working again, making contact with entities. Then Jack Parsons does it and they call the Babylon working with a modified version of the Amalantra where he is doing sex magic rituals out in the desert with Horlo Elrond Hubbard having to watch him, you know, play with himself.

54:10And the whole purpose of the Babylon working was to manifest the horror of Babylon because they, you'll find also all these guys are interested in the apocalypse, right? In the end times and trying to trigger the final, the final age of mankind for, for Parsons and Crowley, they were more interested in just getting rid of religion was kind of, would I interpret them being into not necessarily like, let's destroy the world, but let's recreate the world. And you know, Crowley was raised a dispensationalist Christian where they were all heavy on the rapture in the end times. So his whole jam was like, I'm going to approach this from the other side. I'm not going to approach it from the Christian side, I'm going to approach it from the other side to try to make this happen. So Parsons, and this is where we're going to get into like the phenomenon where Parsons, so again, I'm going to try to keep this short July 16, 1945, we get the Trinity Atomic

55:18Bomb Test a couple of weeks later, after they, you know, tear this veil in the skies with the atomic bomb, we get the Trinity UFO crash, I was able to interview both Dr. Jacques Vallet and Paula Harris, they wrote a book about the Trinity crash, which is absolutely fascinating. It's not that talked about people talk about Roswell, 47, but 45 was when we had the a real alien artifacts and all this stuff. So then in 46 Parsons starts the Babylon workings, Alistair Crowley infamously criticized Parsons and was like, this guy's kind of a goofball, he doesn't know how to close off the portals properly and he's going to leave one open, then 47, we get the Roswell crash. And this is where the, you know, the Collins elite enter the picture. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that, who that is. Yep. Okay. Yeah. The Collins elite enter the picture and they've been supposedly behind, you know, all of these different efforts, you know, you had Project Grudge and Blue Book. I can't think of the other one.

56:19I know it was Blue Book was the most recent of the bunch that we know of and they were trying to basically discredit UFO sightings and while they were continuing to research him, right? And the Collins elite were supposedly the sort of Christian religious folks who arguably were trying to understand what these occultists were doing in Jack Parsons who called himself the anti-Christ. So they're, they're kind of worried about where these occultists were taking everything and where they summoning demons. And it's interesting because Louis L. Isando has been saying in the last few years, giving interviews about how, yeah, there was this group of weird Christian folks in the DOD and the Pentagon and they were stopping us from really, you know, digging deep into the phenomenon because they thought we were going to bring Satan into the world, ha, ha, ha, ha. And I'm sure that's a reference to this Collins elite group, right? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So I do think that, you know, I think that disclosure is part of the efforts that they're

57:20going to have. And I wouldn't be shocked by it because like I used to do ghost hunting and ghost hunting is what kind of opened my eyes to this idea of the of interdimensional entities because I was able like big contact with all these ghosts and spirits and I was like, well, that's freaking weird. Uh, again, like, not, I'm not a good Christian. If you want a good Christian inspirational source, I'm not your guy. I'm terrible at that. Right. Right. But yeah, I do think that the alien agenda is part and parcel to all of this stuff going on and energy and various dimensions and so on, right? Yeah. So how, how would you like to just kind of wrap and things up? How would you like more mainstream audiences to like engage with your work? Like, so I try to give, I try to give them as many options as possible. Uh, I've been, I've been torsed off of YouTube twice now and I'm trying to rebuild now for the third time. Uh, I try to be very careful with what I say and present on there. But, uh, that's, to me, that's the most effective medium. So it's, it's on YouTube.

58:20It's at occult symbolism. It's basically my podcast, but with the video version and I show images of the topics I'm speaking about because I think it's easy to understand when you can see the, the image. But if some people are just podcasts, only people, they can do just the podcast, the cult symbolism and pop culture. Uh, and of course I've got like the Patreon supporter thing if people want to go at free and unlock bonus content, all that stuff. But for people who just want to check it out, I mean, I would probably recommend the YouTube because that's the best way to, uh, you know, digest the information I would say. But then, yeah, some, some people like the written, uh, like to read. So I've got books on Amazon and audible and, you know, I try to be everywhere to sort of shotgun blast the message out. But if, you know, the, the, the one, the one that probably works the best is the YouTube, at least while I'm still on there. Yeah, for now, right? For now, for now, dot, dot, dot. Yeah. Um, so the one, one last thing is I ask everybody what, since the name of this show is broadcasting seeds.

59:21What is a seed that you would like to plant in the audience's mind, um, going forward? I would say, uh, that's a great question. I think that the big thing that I've been, that I've learned that I understand is the, the idea of symbolism and speaking to the subconscious, I think that that's the most important thing. So for instance, you know, I watch horror movies and listen to rap music and, uh, all these things that I'm like sitting here saying like, oh my gosh, they're, they're, they're speaking to your subconscious, they're trying to program you or whatever I'm trying to say. And people are like, then why are you still watching and listening to this stuff? And they're not wrong for thinking that, like, for instance, uh, if I listen to too much rap music, I'll find myself, like if I'm not in the mood to hear it that day or it's put me in a weird mood, like I'll switch it over to like some, you know, 80s love songs or something that are like soft in my heart, maybe feel a little better, but it depends on what I'm trying to do. Like, if I go through CrossFit, like, give me some high speed aggressive stuff, right?

1:00:21Um, right. But my, but my, my seed I would want to plant is that, uh, maybe just being cognizant of it could be enough, right? Like if I'm watching a movie and it's making me feel a certain way, I think just being aware that that's the purpose of, instead of going to this sort of cancel culture thing of, you know, like some of these people that get real overzealous about and I'm like, I'm always, I was like, what do you want to just watch movies about Bible stories? Like, is that, or listen to gospel hymns all day? Like, we got to give a place for artists to sort of present this stuff, uh, and we being humans of having, uh, you know, brains in our head that God gave us, like, can sort of decipher it. And if, and if maybe the, maybe your person is too sensitive to it and you're like, dude, I'm not watching any of this garbage. Like, that's fine too. Like, I'm okay with that. But like, don't take that away from other people who maybe get into that stuff. You know what I mean? Like with rap music. Like, sometimes I like that. And that's the message of like, um, helps me like get up and grind, man. It's like, you know, of course, they're pursuing like Rolex watches and, you know, cars

1:01:22that I don't have any desire. I'm, I'm more of like, let's stack this bread and get it retired someday or go on a vacation. Like, that's like the extent for me, but like, you can, you can sort of alchemize sort of, you can alchemize these messages to whatever you want it to be, right? And it's, yeah. Um, I, even if it's, uh, like meditation, right? Like my priest, one priest was like, not into it. The other priest was like, cause I meditate, right? For like anxiety, depression stuff. Yeah. Same. And, and as long as you're like focused on like trying to, like I try to focus on like communing with God and having God, like send me the positive messages, like kind of call my mind, uh, same with yoga, like you, I think you could do most of these things. If you're of sound mind to do it, I don't, there's probably some people that maybe they're more susceptible to things than they shouldn't, maybe I don't know. But it's a, you know, personal, personal choice, I think. I think that too many people have been taught to be sheep and that they have lost all the ability to think critically and use discernment.

1:02:22So I think that there, there are people with gaping holes to this, to these bad energy. Yeah. Discernments, the right word there. I agree. That's, yeah. And if you can't, if you can't discern whether or not, you know, I, anyway, I don't want to get on my soapbox. Yeah. But you're probably coming out of the same approach. I am unsure. I'm sure it is. It's absolutely. So again, one last time, tell everybody where they can find you. I'm all over the internet. You just go to my link tree, all my links.com slash Isaac W. That's I S A A C W. Um, if you're on YouTube, be sure to subscribe over there. I've got a ostentatious goal to get my numbers back up to where it was when my first channel got towards. Add a cult symbolism on there. Be sure to subscribe and hit the bell and all that stuff. Thanks for having me back. Thanks for having me. I'll appreciate you. Absolutely, man. And at some point, we'll do it again. Yeah. For sure. An invitation.

1:03:22If you ever have something that you want to come on in. Okay. And do some shameless product placement. I always, I'm always drifting, man. I've always got something to sell. I'm your place, brother. So yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Bro, cast and sees. Let's go. I came up on the truth in the static and noise. Rabbit holes deep. Now I'm back with a choice. Red pill, bitter. But it's sharp in the sight. Now I'm peeping all the shadows that were hitting the light. Foul get dropped. But they redact the truth. Half the names go up. Still a crack in the roof. Elite circles move where the cameras don't go. They programmed your mind through the strings. You scroll and chase grips. In the back of your head. Why they feed you fair? Just to keep you misled, bread and circuses. Keep the masses asleep. Why the wolves and suits run a game from the deep. I ain't carrying on. I just learn how to see. Every symbol got a message. If you learn how to read. From the stage to the screen.

1:04:23From the booth to the throne. Maybe speaking to your soul. But you thought it was your own. It's hitting in the signal. Buried in the sound. Truth don't die. Just circle back around. They don't got a lot. They show you with playing. You just got to see through the layers of the game. Hitting in the signal. Coating in the art. They be talking to your mind. Now they reach it for your heart. Once you see the pattern. You can't go back. Now you walking through the fire. With the world off track. Coating the open. They don't even hide it. They just mask it in the rhythm. So the masses can't find a super bow stage. Looking more like a right half the crowd cheering. Half blinded by the lights. Energy harvest. Fear in the air. Turn pain in the power. That's the game that they play. From the other files. To the soups in the room. It's the same dark karma. Just a different costume. They talk AI. Like it's saving the race. But it look more like a throne. It preparing the place. Digital change. Dressed up like a troll. Why they promise you the future. But they taxing your soul. In the dimensional. Maybe that's the play. Not from the stars. But the valin between where they stay. Old world knowledge. With a new world face. Same war.

1:05:23Different battlefield. Same chase. It's hitting in the signal. Buried in the sand. Truth. Don't die. Just circle back around. They don't got a lot. They show you in playing. You just got to see through the layers of the gang. Hitting in the signal. Coded in the art. They were talking to your mind. I didn't reach it for your heart. Once you see the pattern. You can't go back. Now you walk it through the fire. With a new face. Same war. Different battlefield. Same chase. It's hitting in the signal. Buried in the sand. Truth. Don't die. Just circle back around. You walk it through the fire. With the world off dragging. But hold up. It ain't all doom and gloom. Determining your spirit. That's the light in the room. They can't take it well. If you know who you are. Even in the dark. You could still see the stars. Yeah, the system deep. Yeah, the gang drunk over truth. Hit different when they live in your soul. They could twist the narrative. Been what they say. But they can't kill truth. It's just finding a new way. So I'll plant these seeds. Let them grow where they land. Some going wake up. Some won't understand. That's the balance of the build. That's the cost of the fight. Some stay asleep.

1:06:23Some stepping to the light. Yeah. See it now. You don't. Either way. It's already there. Broadcast the seeds. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy.