‼️ Israel kicks off WW3, The harms of Political Islam & Fall of TPUSA | Jade Warwick, The Ark E67 🇦🇺

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 67 of the ARC podcast.

And this week, I've got another interview with Jade Warwick of the Warwick Report.

And we caught up in Arizona late last year.

We got on like a house on fire, you know, Aussie, Middle Eastern, Aussie,

and a British person.

We got on very well in a sea of what would you say, Americans,

Yanks, as I like to call them.

But today, I'm looking forward to doing this interview

because Jade has a similar problem to me where she doesn't get interviewed by many people.

She's normally doing a lot of segments and getting hundreds of thousands,

if not millions of views a day on her videos.

I wouldn't delve a little bit more into who she is,

why she believes the things that she believes,

what are some of the experiences growing up that she saw in the UK?

Again, the UK, it's a bit of a sad situation for a lot of us Aussies

and a lot of Yanks looking at the UK,

being the birthplace of the Magna Carta of democracy around the world

and a lot of our parliaments.

So to see, you know, almost 15,000 people arrested for online posts,

I think it's about three to 5,000 every year,

it's a very sad situation.

And so as a part of this conversation,

I wanted to learn a little bit more about what informs Jade

and exactly what she would like to see happen in a new country

where she's now citizen in the USA.

So Jade, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much for having me, lovely to see you again.

It's always a pleasure.

And I really did mean that every time, you know,

it's so funny after our last conversation,

people were like, Joel, why do you like Jade so much?

Because, and I said, you don't understand,

we were at this Arizona conference,

the vibe was weird, the vibe, and I can look, I get it.

Look, I'm the head of Turning Point Australia.

It is, we are associated with the US,

but we are independent as well.

It was a weird vibe without Charlie there.

And you and I, we just clicked straight away

and I was like, thank God, there's someone

that I can actually get on with while I'm here.

And I guess I just wanted to ask you a little bit about, you know,

what your background is, what some of the stories you've mentioned to me,

but you didn't really get into.

And it's sort of an opportunity for you

to sort of show your audience a bit about who you are on.

Thank you, thank you.

So no, to welcome, so tell me, first off,

why do you share my lack of self-preservation?

Why are you talking out online?

What was it, what was it for you that sort of flicked the switch?

I love that phrasing, lack of self-preservation.

One other way of saying,

Jade, you're on a lot of hit lists now,

because you run your mouth.

That's right.

Yeah, it's funny for someone that is more

on the Republican conservative side.

You know, I'm very much like a feminist

and I don't like to be silenced.

I don't like men telling me what to do, the men and governments.

I really only answer to God, like it's God first.

So I just realized that last year,

there weren't enough people speaking up

against what's happening in the UK.

And there's a good reason for that.

It's because if they do, they will get arrested.

There's people in the UK who are like,

what can I do if I say something online?

Someone will report me.

And then the police will show up at my door.

Luckily, I live in the US and it's weird.

I don't really know how I got here,

but it didn't make sense at the time.

I just sort of went with the flow.

And it was definitely God putting me in America

because I can now speak freely here

on behalf of the Brits who cannot.

And that's, I think, my mission here.

So self-preservation, God has my back.

Well, but it's not easy, though.

I mean, you've operated yourself.

You've come to the USA for free speech

and for this profession.

Are you fearful of going back even now

after everything you've said?

Oh, yeah, of course.

I haven't been back in the UK over a year.

I wanted to go back for Christmas,

but I was advised by several lawyers not to do that.

Right. Yeah.

And it is weird for us,

because we see people like that Korean guy

that's so, he had bacon on his shoulders in one evening.

Right, when he's...

You know, the guy, he went to the UK

and I have never seen him this startled when he was there.

And he didn't realize there was a cost to free speech over there.

No, there definitely is.

And Jonathan Cho, the Cho Show in Seattle,

went along with him, covered it very well.

And he will be releasing his own documentary

on the free speech laws in the UK.

So I'm very excited to see that.

He interviewed me for that, too.

Obviously, while I was in the UK,

while I was in the US, because I can't be in the UK.

But yeah, there's several acts like the online communication act,

bullying and harassment, all these things.

And it just...

It limits what you can say.

So if you, for example, say,

I don't like this Buddhist guy,

because he did X, Y and Z.

The Buddhist community could report you to the police

and the police would go to your door.

Things they don't do that, because they're very chill.

However, if you say, hey, I don't like the Islamic community,

who really give in to political Islam,

they want to hide women.

They want to censor them.

They don't want to give them rights.

They don't even let them drive or go out on their own.

I don't think that's compatible with British values.

If you say that there, oh my God, the community,

they will report you, and it will become a big case.

I have approximately 13 cases open against me.

That's Scotland Yard.

Oh, wow.

From my sources, then, so.

Right. I didn't know that a lot.

Yes.

And I mean, can they reach you?

Can they reach you if you're in the USA?

So that's, is there an extradition treaty?

No.

So as an American now, I'm protected by the Constitution,

even as a green card holder, you're protected.

So, yeah, they would have to treat me as an American.

However, if I landed on British soil,

I would be treated as a British national,

because I'm a dual citizen.

So it's just too risky.

I want to see my family, but I can't.

Well, I'm worried about myself at times going over there,

and I barely touched the topic of Islam.

And I say Islam, because the top two

most litigious groups in the political scene in the West

right now is the LGBT community and the Islamic community,

just strange, because they're adults with each other.

Yeah, they both like mutilating children.

Yeah, and they never sue each other either.

Like, you know, you see Muslims,

it's like it's totally adults with the Islamic community,

but you see like Gays for Gaza and stuff.

It's just with strange.

No, I'd love to see those Gays go to Gaza.

See what happens.

Very cool.

Well, there's no more buildings to throw Gays off anymore.

So, you know, they just totally flattened.

No, look, it's terrible.

But like, you know, like,

and look, we'll get into that, by the way.

I'm hoping to talk a bit about what's going on with,

it's quite topical right now with Iran.

And it's just another, to me, to my family, you know,

I'm Lebanese and Syrian historically,

but my grandfather came in the 60s to Australia.

I mean, this is the Western intervention in the Middle East

has decimated the Middle East.

And it's emptying all the Christians out.

It's emptying all the Muslims out.

And it's putting them in non-compatible countries

around the world in the West.

But let's, so you've talked a lot about Islam in your videos.

I want to understand where that comes from.

What the sort of, you know, there's a saying,

if you want to understand a person's worldview,

look at where it was in there in around,

when they were 20 years old.

What did you experience?

Because you've mentioned a few times,

a lot of your friends, they've had brushes with Islam.

Yeah, it's, it's not just 20.

It started when I was around 10.

Um, so I unfortunately developed a very young age.

So I started my periods when I was 10.

I actually became, I think, a double D by the time I was 11.

So I developed early.

And I would walk around the city center

with my grandma, granddad.

And I noticed from a very young age,

certain demographics of men that would stare at me.

And I was very uncomfortable.

And my grandma would, you know, protect me

and make sure I was okay.

But these, these men are taught very differently

to how we are.

You know, if you're brought up in the UK,

it's like, okay, age of consent is 16.

But it's, it's common that you only date

within a few years of, you know, your age.

Whereas in the Middle East,

you can have arranged marriages

between a literal child and a 60 year old man.

So they don't have that moral compass that we do.

It's just a fact.

Um, and then through my teenage years,

I saw, you know, Angela Merkel opened up the borders,

Europe followed, the UK followed,

because we were part of Europe then.

And the demographics shifted rapidly.

I noticed that there were more no-go zones.

Well, what is a no-go zone for those that haven't heard?

A no-go zone is a really cute way of saying,

if you're a white girl, don't go to this area

because you will probably get attacked, harassed, or gripped.

And there was one area pretty close to where I went to school

and several of my girlfriends got harassed

and sexually assaulted.

I got attacked physically.

I haven't actually spoken about this

because, you know, it is rather traumatizing,

but I was, I was 16.

I was coming home from a class.

And it was a gang of Muslim men and they attacked me

and I fought off, you know, as best as I could,

but I got hurt.

That was blood.

And so I realized then, okay, I need to do something about this.

So I trained to be part of the British military.

I was like, okay, I'm going to be a sniper.

I'm going to be a sharpshooter.

I'm going to go there and I'm going to do shit, you know what I mean?

And then they said, well, you're a woman.

So, you know, we can't let you be a sniper.

Really? I have that, right?

Oh, those are rule back then.

Now you can have custom genitals

and be any position in the military, which is great.

But yeah, so they said, we'll train you for a year

and you can become an officer at Sandhurst.

I think it was like an eight year contract.

And I just declined it.

I said, you know, I don't see this shifting.

I can't really protect myself even as an officer.

So I left and I traveled in Europe a little bit.

I was like, is Amsterdam better?

No, is Paris better?

No, what about Rome?

Went to Rome, hell no.

And then luckily, I got signed actually

in Australia first at a wonderful mother agent there.

And she was like, well, why don't you try America?

Let's, let's hit up all the American agencies

in Miami, New York and Los Angeles.

And yeah, one of them in LA was like, we'd love to see you

and put you on our books.

So I came over here, yeah.

I had to pull you back to the traumatic period,

but this is the first time you've told your audience

really gone on public record.

Did anything happen to those men that happened?

Did you report it to the police?

The police did nothing?

They said they're asylum seekers.

Oh, oh, I don't know.

They say they're all at the red carpet.

So it's all right then?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and that was a common excuse by the police.

And people like, oh, that's so hard to believe, Jay.

They wouldn't favor those men over, you know, Welsh women.

No, they would.

There's something called the grape gang inquiry.

I know I'm trying to be very careful with that word,

so you don't get censored.

But the police and authorities failed to stop it.

And there was an inquiry into these gangs.

They were targeting girls as young as 11.

In most recent years, it's actually assaulting them.

Yeah.

Things like that.

And it was proven that the police didn't want to do anything

about it because they feared being called racist.

Now put me in charge.

I don't care.

I don't care about being called racist.

I was on the phobic.

You touch a child.

I'm with Florida on that one.

You should be put to the forever sleep.

Well, you can tell, I'm a radical on this stuff.

I know, I know Rupert Lo, people like,

oh, Rupert Lo is great.

He did this raping query and God bless him.

We need the data.

But he's like, we're going to mass deport these people.

And I'm like, I'm crazy.

Yeah, look, but I'm nuts.

Like, and maybe it's because of these eyebrows.

I don't know, maybe it's because I feared.

But look, as a guy, I think it's important to say this,

as a Middle East and a Christian that came from the Middle East

to Australia, where we integrated, where we did the right thing.

Like a lot of communities, the Greeks, the Italians,

in Australia, we feel very comfortable identifying as well

because we wear it as a badge of honor.

You need to chemically castrate these people

and then deport them.

You can't just send them into the world and say,

oh, it's someone else's problem.

Send them to Italy.

Send them to the Italian girls.

If we have evidence that these men have done a crime

and sexually assaulted or raped someone,

then they need to be chemically castrated.

They need to be, if you're not coming tough on crime,

you are incentivizing the further behavior in the future.

And again, you guys don't yet.

You haven't yet stopped the boats.

You've got these military men.

It's not exactly, you know, it's not just men

coming over on those boats.

We'll talk about that soon.

All right.

All right.

What do you mean by that?

Firearms ammunition controls the ports.

Right.

Are they being checked?

These boats?

Absolutely not.

There was a piece that came out recently

from an MI5 agent, I believe MI5 or MI6.

And he said that they have been stockpiling weapons

and ammo in the UK.

That's all right.

And there's 80,000 G-hardy trained soldiers

embedded dormant waiting for the word.

That's all allegedly.

It's from an MI5 or MI6 agent, but concerning.

Well, if freaks, you know what freaks me out about this

is the, in the UK, in Australia and in America,

we've got, you know, local in America,

they call it county level elections.

We've got state elections and, you know,

gubernatorial and whatever.

And then we've got national elections.

In the UK, you've got like local councils

and then you've got the national.

There's no state.

So in our constitutions, the state government

has its own police force, its own policing.

They have greater ability to police certain crimes.

If a lot, in a lot of these majority Muslim areas

and there are a lot of enclaves, you might say,

oh, you know, Muslims only make a small percentage.

They're not a majority of the UK.

No, no, they are more than a majority

in a lot of these local areas where they can dictate the laws,

where they can bring in certain Islamic laws.

We call it Sharia law.

Sharia just means Islamic law.

It's like, it's the Islamic word for law.

So it's like law law.

Yeah, law law.

But I freak out because this is against the spirit

of the country of the UK.

It is, you're meant to believe in a quality before the law,

a quality between men and women.

And the idea that these crimes aren't being policed,

it is heartbreaking to see that happen

to the birthplace of democracy.

Yeah, it's heartbreaking.

Yeah, and I think the sentence that sums it up for me

is mercy to the guilty, is cruelty to the innocent.

And if you do not punish them, you are punishing the children

that are being gripped.

How can you sleep at night?

Jade, where are the feminists on this?

Oh, they're on the sides of the immigrants.

Like you see them in Australia,

that there's these crazy statistics

they throw out there saying that like,

one in four women are sexually assaulted or raped.

And they have all these stats in Australia.

And obviously they only go after, you know,

cis white men, you know.

Oh, you're a white man.

It's the white men that are in these packs of rape gangs.

It's like, well, that's not what's going on.

They go hard on, you know, toxic masculinity,

but then when it comes to truly, truly toxic masculinity,

truly packs of Pakistani, right,

they call them Asian rape gangs,

like Pakistani rape gangs.

Yeah, don't, don't, slander Asians like that.

Yeah, I know, I'm like,

I've never heard of a Japanese grape gang in the UK.

Yeah, like, there's nothing,

there's nothing that they know it to be found

and it makes you wonder, what is this pernicious ideology

that is behind feminism?

And you see this impasse,

people like, like those sort of early generation of feminists,

true feminists like JK Rowling,

breaking the glass ceiling,

getting women of the workforce, that sort of thing.

Yeah, we love JK.

Being thrown under the bus by this woke ideology,

it's like, what's going on with that?

Yeah, I mean, it's all performative,

you know, liberal feminists don't actually care

about women, been seeing it for years.

Are women in the UK working up to this threat?

Are they truly seeing that, hey,

I, we've got something wrong here with immigration.

I believe there's a portion who are,

but the majority of women,

I think, are just very empathetic.

They don't really see the long-term effects of what's going on

and they're distracted, you know, that's the problem.

I think that the men are more locked in

and aware of what's happening.

One scary statistic was since March of 2025,

there's been 199,000 recorded sexual offenses in the UK

and approximately 26% of that involved a foreign national

has the aggressor.

So, you know, people want to say,

well, that's a small percentage.

I'm like, okay, but if those men weren't in the UK,

you'd have 26% of those offenses not occurring.

That's a fairly good cut, I'd say.

So it's like, if you really care about women,

care about your own safety, let's get rid of them.

Yeah, it's shocking to me because, you know,

we look at the analogy I gave you in our last podcast,

it's like, you're in a, I see myself

as an adopted son into Australia, you know, like,

sometimes I open my mouth and people are like,

that's not what I was expecting.

I wasn't expecting the Aussie accent.

Like, I get it, I get it guys, that's weird.

But, but it's bad for us.

It's bad for the immigrants that integrated

and we owe a debt to Australia,

giving us a future outside of the Middle East,

giving us economic prosperity,

the ability to move up the financials, you know,

to move up economically in Australia

when the rule of law and corruption

has run the Middle East in Lebanon and Syria.

Well, I just want to say,

you're doing amazing things for Australia.

And I don't think you're an adopted son of Australia.

I think that you are a true Australian.

And a true patriot.

Yeah.

There's a debate in Australia right now

and a good friend of mine, he wrote this book,

What Happened to the Lucky Country?

And I just did a podcast with him and he said,

Hey, I'm Greek like we came, you know, 80 years ago.

At what point am I considered an Australian?

And he said, the Americans don't have this problem.

The Americans, he recalled a businessman in America saying,

you know, Damien, you would make a great American.

You're subscribed to American values.

It's not like, oh, you're going to be a white guy.

But, but it's bad for immigrants

that have integrated and assimilated

when we see these recent adopted sons coming in,

not integrating and just sort of running a mark

and under this name of multiculturalism.

It's like multiculturalism is bull crap.

I mean, this is something that came around 40, 50 years ago.

There is one culture, it's the Australian culture

and you might have your subculture,

but it takes a back seat to the dominant,

like we should all be out celebrating Australia day

instead of invasion day.

Whatever the hell that is.

Revision day.

Well, that's every day is invasion day today.

We've got with the massive immigration

that's going on in the UK, I mean.

That is true.

Yeah, okay.

It's a bad point.

I didn't really think about that.

You didn't think about that.

So how do you like that lefty as well?

I love it.

No, I love it.

Do you want to talk about what's going on in Iran?

Speaking of invasion.

No, I mean, I mean, we did just get news.

You know, a year ago Iran was bombed

under the guise of their supposed nuclear program.

It was June 2025 operation, Midnight Hammer.

And Trump, I think he said, we obliterated it.

That was the word choice.

It's a very strong word choice.

Words have meaning.

That means we should be fine

and not have to deal with that anymore.

But what happened to obliterating their supplies?

Now they're weeks away from, are they, I don't think so.

No, and like they, they touted, they killed,

they set back the program like 20 years.

They killed all the top scientists.

And, you know, Charlie, Charlie Kirk,

after he passed, there was an article in the Grey Zone

written by Max Blumenthal saying,

Charlie was pivotal to going to the White House

and making, having conversations with the president

and reminding him of what he ran on,

reminding him of what the base wants,

because no one was more attuned

to what the base wants of Charlie was.

Then you would.

That was what he ran on.

And the only difference between then and now,

we're looking at 150,000 American men military

fighting to invade Iran for this regime change.

Yeah.

And we don't have Charlie.

Well, you know, this replaced Charlie

is Mr. Netanyahu.

He's been, he's had seven meetings with Trump

since Trump got elected last.

So, you know, you've got him going into the White House

in Trump's ear like, hey,

we think that Iran's going to hit us right now.

So we're going to go in with or without you

and America's policy as well.

We have to back you guys up

and we have to strike first.

Yeah.

Why?

This is not what America, this is not what Americans want.

At all.

And I'm sorry, but pretty much everyone

I've spoken to who voted for Trump very disappointed.

Yeah.

And then the crazy thing is, you know,

you see a lot of Americans like the American ambassador

to Israel saying, you know,

Israel's always fighting on the self-defense.

They were attacked in, you know, 1956 in the Suez crisis.

And it's like, no, they weren't.

Israel started that.

Same as today.

And it's like, it's like, that's not self-defense.

Iran has like two or three countries in between it.

And, you know, and Israel.

So like the idea that this was a self-defense thing

is complete crap.

And a lot of people, a lot of fair-minded people

look at this and say, hey, the towel's wagging the dog here.

How did Israel coax Trump into doing that, basically?

Yeah, well, I mean, I like to call

Mr. Netanyahu our sugar BB.

But at the time of recording,

we've lost six service members,

American service, men and women.

And I do want to name four of them

because I think it's really important.

So the US Operations Center in Kuwait got hit by Iran.

Sergeant First Class Noah Taichichens.

He was 42 from Braska,

Captain Cody Korak, 35 from Florida.

Sergeant First Class Nicole Amor from Minnesota.

She was 39.

And then Sergeant Declan Cody, age 20 from Iowa,

they should still be alive.

We have absolutely no business

being in the Middle East like this.

These were innocent people who served the country.

And they're gone.

This is at least four families have been affected.

We want to get confirmation on the other two.

But I don't understand how we can celebrate this.

I mean, I'm happy that Iran has been liberated.

Now that them deal with it,

I don't want to read any more names.

And I'm sorry if I mispronounced the names

because they just came through to me.

But they should still be alive.

Yeah, it's crazy.

A lot of Trump's old tweets have been resurfacing.

A lot of his old videos saying Obama is terrible

and negotiator.

He should be able to negotiate his way out of this.

Yes.

And now we're looking at it.

We're looking at a large-scale ground invasion.

Basically.

No new wars, but this is a war-level attack.

Yeah, and to make matters worse,

I mean, it's decimating America's relationship

with the Gulf States.

They're prioritizing Israel's defense

over the Gulf States where they accepted these American bases,

putting a big target over their head.

And now we're looking at a situation

where America's basically losing its standing in the world.

And we all know what's going to happen.

The base in America is going to kick out Trump

and the Republicans in 2020.

No, we've allowed the Democrats to now win

the midterms.

Fantastic, guys.

But did you know that America is now dipping into its reserves?

Reserves for the military.

For the military.

So, you know, counter missiles, our own bombs,

things like that.

And Iran, very smart.

So they're doing death by 1,000 cuts.

So they're not setting off nukes, obviously,

but they're putting out all these missiles, all these bombs.

And Israel's running low.

Dubai is about to run out of, you know, counter missiles.

Yeah.

What's going to happen then?

The craziest.

So a lot of my friends in Australia, again,

I'm very amicable with everyone in Australia.

From the Zionist group, like people like Avi or Mini,

from Rebel News.

And also the more right-wing groups,

the Australia first guys like Big Chucky,

Sam Bamford, Scott Chalene.

Big Chucky.

Are you liking him, do you?

Yeah, I love him.

Yeah, well, I'll try and get him into America.

And you guys can have a chat.

But Chucky's a fan of your work.

And he's been getting a big attacks this week

on the fact that he's saying, why are we doing this?

And that people are attacking him, saying, oh, Europe.

You're a pedophile, a polygist.

Do you support Iran?

And he's like, you guys, not everything is a binary.

You can, you can celebrate the fact

that the Iranian people have an opportunity

the first time in like 80 years to go back to a time

when we have the shower of Iran.

Yes.

But also, we don't trust Israel to set up a democracy.

Israel's a playbook is historically clear,

divide and conquer, divide and conquer.

And that's not anti-Semitic to say that.

A lot of Jews are less safe because of the actions

of Israel.

They are less safe.

The Middle East is not black and white.

It is highly nuanced.

People forget that because they just want to pick a side.

Are you on my team?

Or are you against my team?

Yeah.

Why are there only two teams?

And when you confront them about this greater

Israel thing in Genesis 15 about Israel,

historically, you know, 3,000 years ago,

promised the land from the river, the Nile,

to the Euphrates River, which is everything from Egypt's Nile,

Eastwood, all the way to basically Iran

and a big chunk of Saudi Arabia.

When you confront them about it, you say,

oh, that's an anti-Semitic trope.

That's a hang on a sec.

You guys are looking at an invasion of Lebanon,

an invasion of Syria in this buffer zone,

an invasion of eventually Jordan,

the Sinai Peninsula, like we saw in 1956,

and just heading eastward.

And you're emptying out the Middle East of the OG Semites,

the actual Semites like me.

Like, I am 100% Semitic.

I am Lebanese and Syrian from the Levant region.

You know, I'm more Semitic than Netanyahu.

Netanyahu, like he's European.

He's Polish?

Yeah.

Like all the provinces have had a change of name.

Like, who are these people?

They're killing the OG Christians,

and they're emptying the Middle East

of a lot of incompatible cultures

that are going to Europe, going to Australia, the USA,

and committing these terrorist attacks.

And in order for Israel to succeed,

they need to weaken the Gulf states,

the Arab states like Saudi Arabia and the UAE and Qatar,

and sever them from the United States.

Yeah, I mean, it's all the straight of home uses,

getting shut down now.

Our gas prices have already started going up.

So it's only going to get worse.

Yeah, and people are saying,

oh, Joel, why are you so fascinated with Israel?

And I'm like, Israel started this conflict,

and I am Australia first.

Australia doesn't fund Israel like America.

We're not the police of the world.

We're a small country, our economy's the size of Florida,

where our population's the size of Taiwan

with 29 million people.

But when fuel goes up in Australia,

we've only got about less than a month of diesel

and unleaded petrol.

If that goes up, and if we don't have it,

we can't get the food to the cities.

How about that?

But that's like, we're forgetting how to breathe.

All of our, so 90% of, for those of you listening,

90% of Australia's fuel is imported.

It's refined overseas in Asia by places like Singapore.

It all of our fleet, they go via the Malakas straight

near the islands in Asia.

And everyone's like, we don't even get fuel from the Middle East.

And I'm like, all right, first things first.

It's refined in Asia, but these Asian countries

get it from the straight-off hormones.

And we live in a globalized world

where if the price goes up here, it goes up there.

When the Russia-Ukraine war kicked off,

everyone was like, oh, why is fuel prices going up?

All the politicians are like, oh, it's the Russia-Ukraine war.

You can blame Russia.

All right, all right.

Well, it was Israel that kicked this off with Iran.

And now it's affecting us.

And now I am forced to talk about this.

I never used to talk about this topic,

but now we have to talk about it

because Australians deserve the right to know why

in this cost of living crisis,

brought on by COVID, brought on by inflation,

why now it's going to get even worse.

And to really make matters worse,

this is a part of the industrialization

of the five most countries like the UK and Australia.

We used to have nine refineries in Australia.

Now we have one.

We are not energy efficient.

We have all the resources we need.

We have oil.

We have coal.

We have everything.

But these licenses our government gives out.

They don't do it in the national interest.

These companies sit on these licenses

for up to five years, don't use it.

To be like the diamond trade,

they control how much they release onto the market

to keep inflated prices.

And they're like, I got just, and it's like, hang on.

That is the wealth of the Aussie people.

That is the wealth of the nation.

That is what we call the commonwealth of Australia.

And you're giving away the forefathers promise

to following generations by not,

by serving these corporations.

And it's exactly right.

It's the same in the UK, by the way.

We could be completely energy efficient.

But we're not.

You rely on Russia.

Why is that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Interesting.

So how, look, you're in America and look,

it's an even more difficult battle ground

with regards to this topic.

How do you navigate it without, you know,

obviously you're going to get labeled

anti-Semitic regardless.

But how do you navigate it?

How do you get accurate information?

It's weird.

So I mean, obviously I do a lot of research.

I'll look at left wing and right wing news outlets.

I also do go through my DMs

and I will check out stories that people send me,

like, regular on the ground people.

Because I trust them more than the news outlets.

I have a couple of friends in Israel

who I've been talking to.

I'm very concerned about their safety.

They're sending me videos from the bunkers.

And, you know, I have,

I do have a lot of Jewish fans and people that follow me.

And I think they know where I stand.

It's like, I don't have a problem with Jewish people.

Yeah.

I have a problem with corrupt governments.

And Israel is no different.

It's a government.

And men are corrupt.

It's that simple.

That the last time we talked,

it was just after, it was days after the bondage shooting.

And you rightly predicted the fact

that these laws were coming down the pipeline.

And they were going to target right wingers somehow,

even though these two men born in, you know,

Pakistani father, born in the South,

you know, he was living in the South of India.

Came to Australia on a student visa in the late 1990s, 1997,

I think.

And these guys commit this atrocious attack.

They were supposedly being trained by ISIS

in the Philippines, but we don't know what happened there.

And people tried to blame it on Iran at the time.

And it was like, hang on, which one is it?

ISIS is Sunni, Iran is Shia, Muslim.

It can't be both.

Both terrible, though.

I'd like to just say that.

Sunni, Islam is not great.

Yeah, absolutely.

But at the same time, it's like, get your narrative straight, guys.

I get it, you want to go to war with Iran,

but let's be accurate here.

Was it, was it ISIS or?

No, they really think we're stupid.

They think people are stupid.

Yeah.

And it's offensive.

You know, I don't take offense to things,

but don't call my people stupid.

Don't lie to us.

Yeah, and look, and no one's saying that, you know,

after the Bondar shooting, we shouldn't have laws

to protect, you know, Jewish people,

but why are we calling it Jewish people?

Why don't we just call it Australians?

Yeah.

You can't just come and shoot a bunch of,

and it wasn't all Jews that were killed.

No.

You know, it was 15 people plus the gun, gunmen, some weren't Jewish.

And the idea that we're going to create a special class of hate crime,

where they're going to also go after those online commentators

that are critical of Jews, including critical of a country,

Israel, which is totally different, totally different.

It's just like, you can't imagine if we did that with China.

I always like to use that litmus test.

If we started creating, you know,

oh, if you criticize Chinese people,

that means you're criticizing the country of China.

That's silly.

You're China phobic.

China phobic, and also, I mean, this is another thing.

I was ambushed by a question the other day about Charlie Kirk

getting the anti-Semitic, the defender of Jewish people, basically.

And I was just like thinking,

Charlie was a defender of Semitic people.

He was human.

He didn't like to see anyone getting killed really in the Middle East,

hence his position.

But I literally cannot be anti-Semitic,

because I am Semitic myself.

In fact, probably more Semitic than most Israelis, as a matter of fact.

Well, they like to argue that you hate yourself.

Yeah.

And that's why you say these things.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah, I get that from everyone.

But no, so tell me, when it comes to your own American now,

what would you like to see?

I mean, do you think that the US should totally withdraw from the Middle East,

leave the sandbox?

And look, there is an argument to say,

and even Charlie was wrestling with this in the end,

there is an argument to say that there are strategic interests,

like the Strait of Hormuz closing,

is a national security threat to America, to Australia.

Of course.

Would you say that we should be able to have a total pull out?

There should be no involvement whatsoever.

I mean, where's the line, I guess?

I think just all the surrounding nations

and probably the United Nations,

if they want to get off their ass and do something,

should be monitoring the Strait and have everyone,

for the best interests of the planet,

monitoring that path and making sure there are no closures.

So you can have your little fights

about which interpretation of the Quran is right.

Do that over there.

Let's keep this flowing.

It's as simple as that.

What I want from America,

I mean, I'm in no position of power.

This is literally just my opinion.

But you are, though.

I am an American, and I have some followers,

but I'm not huge.

I just want Americans to be healthier and happier,

because they're not.

That's just a fact.

So we should be fixing the potholes.

We should be putting more money into the schools

and education, fixing the healthcare system.

That's what affects everyday Americans on a daily basis.

I mean, our car's a gang app,

so you just throw it from the potholes here in DC.

You know, our children are sick, our elderly are sick,

and they can't afford healthcare.

Women are not being able to, you know, reproduce

and have the children that they want to have

because it's expensive.

We should be fixing the country, our country first,

America first.

I know everyone's like,

oh, that makes you, you know, a Nick Fuentes supporter.

Okay, fine, if he thinks the same thing,

great, I agree with Nick Fuentes on this.

America first fixed our country before fixing another one,

because if you're weak, you haven't been working out,

you haven't been eating right,

and then there's a burning building.

How can you carry out someone else?

You can't, because you're weak.

Same thing on airplanes.

Put your mask on before helping the person next to you.

We're not doing that.

We're putting masks on everyone else.

It's like eight trillion America spent in the Middle East,

something like that,

which is just insane.

And Israel has their own dome.

They're fine.

They can make their own anti-missile missiles

if they want to do that.

We don't have a dome.

Yeah, I was, after the June last year,

when there was that operation there to take out

the Iranian nuclear program,

there was a huge pressuring by APAC

and the Zionist lobby to basically push America

to bomb these facilities,

because only the Americans had the B-2-3 bombers,

I do believe they're called.

It's when you see missing pixels and that's right.

That's when you need to worry.

That's when you need to worry.

Yeah, you're about to learn why Americans

don't have free health care, those memes.

No, so not long after that,

America passed a bill,

though the Congress passed a bill to sell this to Israel,

this technology, these B-2-3 bombers,

so that they no longer need America in the future.

I just look at that and I just see this escalation

in one direction.

Israel does not want to be told what to do.

They just want to go.

They want to be their own global power.

And the other reason they called,

they would have done, what they're doing today,

they would have done a year ago in June,

but they didn't because they underestimated Iran,

90 million people, they didn't expect that,

how difficult it would be to take out these missile silos.

Yeah, apparently it was the same maneuver

as in Top Gun, Maverick,

which is quite fascinating, isn't it?

That's right, came out a year before I bought it.

So you have to have very skilled pilots,

do that and I'm sorry,

but you're only going to find that in America.

Those pilots are incredible.

Jade,

figure me if this comes across a little bit direct,

but yeah, okay.

You're a brave girl.

Most girls aren't talking about politics.

Most girls don't have a fascination with what's going on,

and even to look into these issues.

Did your father have an impact on your political worldview

or?

No, so I have a strange family upbringing.

I was raised by my grandparents, my mother's side.

My grandfather was in the RAF, he flew a Spitfire.

My grandmother was a shopgirl, just a commoner,

as they like to call them.

And they were wonderful, you know,

World War II kids, just fantastic people.

They passed a few years ago.

And my mum was away for most of my childhood,

and she started helping out more when I was like 10 and up.

And at that point,

she had started dating a wonderful man called Timothy Warwick.

And he became my stepdad.

And he was a fantastic man.

He died a few years ago too.

He was a whistleblower and a Christian,

truly good human.

He adopted a child,

a little black kid with severe autism.

So I also had a step brother in a way that was adopted

and this man had a heart of gold.

Like I've never met a man as good as him.

You said a whistleblower?

Yeah, for road shaft.

Sorry, I'm thinking like emotional.

I don't cry.

This is weird.

And I'll look, this is this is why.

Yeah, this is why I want to ask because I,

death has an enormous impact on people I've noticed

when their father dies,

especially there's something like it's like a handing down

of the baton.

It's like it's on me now to carry on the values

and to stand up for.

Oh, man.

I didn't know this would be a therapy session.

Yeah, well, no, but look, look, I'd be as gay.

Yeah.

No, look, I, um, I'll give you, I'll give you a chance

to compose yourself there.

Yeah, I'm blind.

I'm like, it's so British.

Oh, I love it.

Yeah, it's a stoic, um, stiff upper lip.

I had the same thing with, um, with my dad,

when my dad passed in, um, about four weeks

in a show in 2020, uh, due to the fact that I've mentioned

this before, but the fact that he, um, during COVID,

he was, he was in the middle of five year cancer battle,

he was winning, he's getting blood transfusions in Mexico

and then when the lockdowns came in in Australia,

he couldn't go and get that.

So the government lockdowns were what killed him.

And it was like he had a significant impact

on my world view as a Christian.

He taught me politics, um, through Christianity

in a funny way, because of the politics

between different denominations.

It's quite heated as you appreciate.

To lose him, it was like, it set me on a path of,

I would use the word revenge in the best kind of way.

It's that the greatest revenge I can do is imbue those values

and he lives in you.

It's a bit like that Lion King thing.

Oh my God, yeah.

He lived in us.

You remember who you are.

You're forgotten who you are.

But, but there's such a deep, um, I remember listening to

Jordan Peterson segments on, um, on the Lion King.

It is deep.

It is the fact that you are the next iteration of this.

It is up to you to carry the family values on

and the family name.

Um, and so that's why I ask about your father,

because you have talked about him very endearingly

in the past and, um, which is why I ask about it.

But I do fail to say stepfather because, um, you know, he,

I feel like he raised me more than my actual father, who is still alive.

He's also a very intelligent, um, man, he's half Chinese, half, um, European, um,

works in finance.

Just wasn't really around very much.

So I say that to him, Warwick was my father, sure, yeah, I say that, you know,

my father, father, yeah, it's more of a sperm donor at this point, but, um,

but you at least thanks for that.

Give me some cheap ones, um, and a very high IQ.

So, yeah, but no, Tim Warwick was incredible.

I mean, whistleblower for road shaft, um, for the employees and the investors.

Um, there's a lot of corruption going on there and it bankrupted him.

He lost everything, um, but he, he did that because he knew it was a right thing to do.

You know, in the BBC, the only good thing they've done in the last 10 years

was write up an article about him and explained everything he did

for those people and, yeah, he was a really good guy.

So I hope that he is proud of me, um,

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

Well, you're still on principle.

I think he'd say, yeah, um, it's hard to think what he'd say.

A lot of people say that to me in the comments sometimes,

it's like, oh, your father would be proud.

No.

Um, so many places I could take with this, at this point,

deep breaths, yeah, deep breath, um, the therapy session, normal crying.

Yeah, I'm not crying, go cry.

Um, they don't make men like that anymore.

They just don't, I mean, my, my, my, my, my dad, he was like, uh,

I didn't even know how he did all this stuff.

I mean, by the time he was 35, 40, he,

the guy was a millionaire from property development.

Again, this is a guy.

His grandfather came in 1969 to Australia.

He basically, he took up the trades.

They went and all into bricklaying.

They picked up the trades.

And by the time my dad was, you know, he came here

when he was four years old.

By the time he was 40, not only was he a millionaire

with the enormous economic prosperity you could have

by applying yourself in the Australian economy,

he also studied at the conservatory of music.

He played the saxophone, the clarinet,

the, the wood, which is a 12 string instrument.

It's like, like the loot.

It's actually what the guitar's based on.

Um, but he also, he was also very phenomenal at,

he, he understood Arabic.

He understand, he understood English.

He understood the Australian culture.

He loved Australia.

And he could do any trade on the construction site.

And lastly, in terms of Christian values,

he started the Sydney Institute for Christian Studies.

He talked about, um, Islam.

He talked about the comparison between the two.

And I was like, you know, they just don't make

Stellic men like that.

Well, that's, that's why I like to call a Renaissance man.

And his story is the American dream.

And I mean, what a fantastic man.

And yeah, you're very blessed to come from him.

Well, tell me, tell me, like, because I don't want to go

into a dating life, um, obviously, like, yeah, no, not at all.

But, but you're one of the best people to ask

because you are in the, in the realm of like,

you look at what's on offer nowadays.

And I say this as a man, you know, I went to,

I went to an old guy's school and I, you know,

growing up and you see, you know, you, as a guy,

you can be yourself to other guys.

It's, we're competitive.

I just look at our fathers and I'm just like,

we were none of us ever.

We're not even in the same industry.

Like these guys were in the stratosphere.

And then you look at their fathers and their fathers,

again, was another step up.

Probably has nothing to do with testosterone levels.

They have severely depleted over the last 50 years.

And that affects everything.

Overall health, um, even your sex drive.

And we're like, oh, why did our grandparents have so many children?

Because your granddad's tea was up there.

You know, ours is very, very low.

And younger and younger men are experiencing ED.

So I believe that has something to do with it.

In addition, social media, it's a form of distraction.

You know that saying, give the people,

Coliseums and entertainment.

And they will never revolt, believe it.

I worded it wrong.

Bread and circuses.

Bread and circuses, that's the one.

You know, that's what's going on.

We are constantly on our phones.

We're going from one thing to another.

Then there's only fans and men are getting distracted by that.

Our dopamine receptors are being absolutely destroyed.

And yeah, I mean, we also have feminism.

The last wave of feminism, honestly made men hate women.

And to be honest, I'm with them on that.

I don't like modern feminists at all.

Yeah, so there's a lot of things to cling into.

But you know, we're different from our grandparents.

But yeah, you know, God's a funny guy.

I mean, people thought that, you know,

what's the worst that could happen to Gen Z

if we lock them in their home during COVID for two weeks?

They become gooners.

Yeah, well, I mean, that's the path some men have gone.

But you know, it's funny.

What's ended up happening is we've seen a lot of men

return to Christianity.

Well, not just that, Crusaders.

Yeah, yeah.

Have you seen the amount of reels that are cropping up on that?

I love it.

It's just radical.

Like my, my, my bishop, Bishop Marumari.

I mean, well, he was the one that was stabbed in the eye in 2024.

He, one of the greatest joys out of COVID

was to see them shut down his church.

And then him take his church online,

and he just went viral.

Like TikTok, when TikTok started,

it was like girls twerking in the West.

And now it's just like, as you say,

this crusade me is Bishop Marumari.

I remember what's on TikTok as I've been banned.

Oh, you've been about somebody who they, yeah,

well, it's changed a lot recently with its new owners, I've found.

We'll see.

I'll try and get an account again.

Yeah, well, I think, I think new platforms will pop up.

But I ask about the men thing because

the reason why the West did so well

is because it was from the abundance of

successful high testosterone men that built the enormous society

stability, the way things work,

the ability to then actually give women the right,

don't get me wrong, women fought for it.

But it was like men also had to

give that up to an extent as well and protect women.

And I think that if we don't talk about how we can get men back

to be great again in the form of

competent, just basically competent.

And strong and no, you know,

strong headed about what they want.

It starts with testosterone levels and discipline.

If you can lock those two things in, you will be unstoppable.

You will be a great man.

And you're right, we don't make men like this anymore.

But I think it's forced women to become like Joan of Arc.

It's forced women like, you know, myself and Eva,

she's a bright wing commentator and I think out of the Netherlands

to speak up, things like that.

So that it's kind of pushed us into maybe a fifth wave of feminism

where we kind of want to go back to the first and second wave.

And we're like, right, well, the men aren't standing up for us anymore

because these women have ruined it for us.

And now they want like custom genitals, just strange.

So we now have to get, you know, the west back on a certain track

and the women are being more at spoken than the men.

It's weird.

You know, it's, it's so funny.

I didn't expect that I'd be talking about this in the podcast,

our statistics online because it's not, it's not good to, you know,

to exulf a grand prize.

But during COVID, I built my following off of COVID from 2020.

My following, a lot of people freak out when they hear this,

but my following is predominantly 66% women.

Interesting.

Yeah, for the first four years.

And it was women above the age of 30.

So 30 to about 65 is the bulk of my audience.

I'd imagine your audience is more men about maybe the slip.

79.6% men on 79.

You know what I mean, ages of 20 and 45 majority.

It's so fun.

I had, I had these two girls they came in and they said, um,

so I like to help a lot of podcasts.

I share, I share, I like to help mentor a lot of people.

And they're like, yeah, we want to start a podcast to reach women.

And I said, that's great.

You know, it's going to happen.

You're going to have Jade statistics.

It's going to be like 80% men that follow you.

And they're like, why is that?

I don't want that.

And I said, he can't help some of these things.

Sometimes men, they, it's not that they don't want to hear

from a woman like that.

It's more that they will listen to a woman.

It's just more, it's more appealing for them to watch.

But the driving force behind men, everything men do is for a woman.

Yeah.

And that's beautiful.

And I respect that.

So any man that follows me, it's like, thank you.

Just say, no, they would fight for me.

One of the encouraging things I've been noticing is people like yourself coming up.

There are a lot more female commentators that are becoming the Joan of Arc sort of people.

And that is, let's just say, rearranging men's priorities and perspective

on what women actually want.

Yeah.

So I think two often men think, if I make my opinion known on this,

they're going to think I'm a toxically masculine man.

And therefore I have to water down my, I've got to be the soy boy.

But when you have women like you saying, no, no, this is what I'm looking for in a partner.

Yeah.

It rearranges the whole hierarchy of who's going to pass on their genetic material,

their genetic to the next generation.

So women have an enormous power.

Yeah.

I mean, we're not attracted to patronizing, condescending men who, you know,

have ego issues.

It's not true.

True masculinity is stoicism.

It's discipline.

It's for me, Christian values.

And you don't have to be like the biggest man in the room.

It's not that at all.

No, um, but I, uh,

That's why I mentioned your stepfather by the way.

Yeah.

I mean, he wasn't like, he was six, five, um, big man.

He wasn't like, brutally or anything.

He was very gentle.

We called him a gentle giant, but, you know, he stood up for innocent people.

And so that's why I do that now, I guess.

Therapy, um, it's like a quiet confidence, but you know, it's like,

call her daddy, that podcast, uh, to trash.

Yeah, I don't, I'm not aware of that.

Right, right, right, right.

No, it really makes me think we should repeat all those things.

What is the 18th of it?

Yeah, it's not the most radical thing we've said.

I'm pretty sure I called for a chemical gastration of rapists.

Well, that's fair.

I think I said it.

I like Rippet Low has an adopted.

Like, oh, Rippet Low's great.

Well, no, Florida, uh, Anna Polina Luna.

She said that if you, um, you know, abuse a child,

you sexually assault a child, you should be put to death.

Oh, good.

Yeah, that's good.

That's good.

But, you know, the women that listen to call her daddy,

it's the reason why it's the number one podcast.

And it has a female audience.

It's just guys, the people that listen to that vote,

you know, I mean, they're talking about how to give a good blowjob.

And they had like, wasn't Kamala, she went on there

and they were just cackling for an hour.

That's not joy.

That's drugs.

That's alcohol.

I can't, these women, they're actually a disappointment

to female kind.

Do you remember that clip I showed you in Arizona,

the one of me debating that girl, Abbey Chatfield?

Yes.

Just let him in.

Just let the immigrants in.

And the next thing, you know, it's the bondage shooting.

Mm-hmm.

Um, how is Abbey?

Well, look, that's right.

She's been laying a bit like, she's been laying a little low after bondage.

She still makes her videos, but look,

yeah, like the winds out of her sails quite a bit.

And I think a lot of, you know, the problem is,

you can do that for a time.

Mm-hmm.

But time always catches up to you.

Eventually, you can't be a little girl anymore.

Eventually, you've got to be,

I think what the British women really have pioneered,

it is like, you have to be a lady.

Yeah.

You actually have to have a grace about you.

The Iron Lady.

Yes, yes, yes.

Maggie.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, I try and be as elegant and graceful as I possibly can be,

because that's how my grandma raised me.

It was all Audrey Hepburn movies,

but in today's world,

and also trying to get clicks, you know,

we have to do certain things.

Yeah.

You know, the hook, the first three seconds of a video,

and I'll say things that a lady would not say.

But I'm doing it for a reason.

Like, at my core, yes, I want to dress like Audrey Hepburn

and have a bunch of decorative cows and check-ins

and just, and literally just shut the fuck up in the van of arm.

But I have to try and make a difference.

And for that, I need to mold myself,

walking this line between being a lady,

being elegant, and being an assulter.

Yeah.

I want to go into, no, I want to go into governments and,

you know, verbally assault them and say,

this isn't right.

You are letting the people down.

I mean, the great gang inquiry in the UK,

they voted to have a new inquiry, re-enquire,

and the liberal Democrats over there voted against it.

Right.

And I want to go in there and tell them how I really think.

And unfortunately, being a lady,

you can't do that.

You have to call queer, stammer a cunt.

But you've had some, sorry, you're in Aussie.

I ruined my land.

It's okay, you're on an Aussie podcast, it's fine.

You're just speaking straight Aussie, it's fine.

But when I talk about what you were talking earlier

about how you wanted to join a military and to come a sniper,

you reminded me of another elegant,

someone that's done some phenomenal takedowns,

Katie Hopkins.

Same thing.

What was her history?

She, I do believe she went into the military and

rose as high as a woman could go pretty much

in the, as much as they allow you.

You know, they don't really talk about that.

They just talk about her time as a TV host.

Oh, yes.

Yes.

Kind of patronizing, degrading.

Yes, she's, she's great.

She's, she tried to get into Australia and help Aussies out

when she was coming to Australia for a show

and they rejected her and they kicked her out.

Because it's like with Candace Owens.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, Candace, yeah.

They, you know what's crazy about the Candace Owens thing?

Even Zionist organizations were saying she should be allowed

into the country.

Because if you don't let her in,

a guy called David Adler,

he, he used to run the Australian Jewish Association.

It's the biggest Jewish organization in Australia.

He quite shrewdly pointed out if you reject her,

it's going to increase anti-Semitism.

Yeah.

So why, why would just let her come?

Let her do her thing.

You know, maybe not many people will go and she'll go and that's it.

Like, let her speak to 8,000 people in every city and that's fine.

Like, her videos are still reaching us.

Yeah.

She's still like the most popular podcast in the world.

But you know, you know, I was asked about this the other day.

I was ambushed by a guy called Josh Zaps.

He asked me, I didn't know he was going to ask this.

He said, you know, what do you make of all this?

You know, they had a turning point of Australia job.

What do you make of all this drama with Turning Point USA

and the Candace Owens series?

And I was just like, well, look,

I just don't know why they haven't sued her yet.

Either the truth's on their side.

Yeah.

And it would come out in the court documents.

Or, you know, or she's like, you have to prove that what the person is saying is incorrect

and also damages your brand.

So, for example, I've sued someone for slander and defamation.

And one, because what they were saying about me was not true.

Yeah.

That also spiked my interest.

Like, why haven't they sent her a cease and desist with, you know,

hey, if you continue, we're going to see for slander and defamation.

Yes.

Now, the thing with Erica, I don't know if we want to go there.

But, you know, Candace has done a series called The Bride of Charlie,

which is what a name for a series, you know, plays on The Bride of Chucky.

Oh, right.

Yes.

I missed that reference.

Yes.

There is something strange with Erica.

I mean, you can love her for who she is now.

But if you look at her past is questionable.

And I'm one of those people that I struggle to watch her.

Because something in my gut says something's off about her.

And I'm a pretty good judge of women.

I've been around enough sociopaths as well to recognize certain behaviors and traits.

And there's something, you know, I was training for a pageant once and then I decided

that it was definitely not my thing because I'd have to not swear.

But one of the tricks they use is looking up into a bright light to induce tears.

And I notice that she does that a lot and she does come from the pageant world.

And I don't know.

Look, if my husband who I loved dearly,

father of my children got publicly executed like that,

one I would be concerned for my children's safety and my own,

because I don't want them becoming fully orphaned.

I would go into hiding.

I would not be doing big events.

WWE style with fucking fireworks and shit.

I would be in hiding.

I'd be praying, I'd be looking after my children.

She's not doing that and that concerns me.

Yeah, it's, it's a very awkward.

They put me in a very awkward position because on the one hand,

I owe Charlie a great debt.

I mean, don't get me wrong.

I had a following before I took on turning point in 2021.

I was operating for like two years on my own fine.

But Charlie, Charlie gave me an enormous opportunity with turning point

to help people breathe their values in the politics.

And I mostly dealt with Tyler Boyer,

who's obviously been covered quite a bit on that show.

Yeah.

Look, I don't know anything about the American operation.

They barely, you know, a lot of people,

they're like, come on, Joel, seriously.

And I'm like, it's a big organization.

It's like over 800 employees.

They barely rep, they're barely responding to my text.

So when I, when I was, no, they don't,

that you don't turning point.

I literally literally respond to you.

The equivalent would be if I was the head of turning point in Florida.

I'm the head of a country's turning point.

And we've probably, we're doing very well in terms of our following.

We're still growing.

And if I can say so, I think a lot of that is to do with the fact that

I've tied myself to the brand and people can

go to me at the end of the day and be like, all right,

turning point Australia is Joel Jamal.

However, part of the problem I've got with the US is,

is one, I don't know what's going on.

Two, they went answer my text.

And three, the worst part of all this is the brand damage.

People are asking me questions.

I don't know the answer to you.

I'll be honest with you.

I went to Amfest last year in December.

That's where I met you.

It was my first.

And I think last time I will go to one of those events.

And not because, you know, they've said they're not going to invite me.

Whatever it is, it's because the infighting was terrible.

And the vibes were off.

And I don't like what's going on with that company.

Yeah, yeah.

Look, when this host asked me about this question,

because again, I'm still trying to work out what's going on myself, guys.

It puts me in a very awkward position because

whilst I owe this enormous debt to Charlie.

And there'd be nothing but good.

Again, just so people know, it's a branding agreement.

I don't fund them and they don't fund me, not a cent.

And it's what you make of it.

Stick to the values.

Charlie wanted Turning Point to be global.

That's why there is a Turning Point UK.

There's a Turning Point Australia.

There's some springing up in Europe, I believe very soon.

But we were bringing him out on a tour late this year.

We were in the early stages of talking about contract fees.

And he was out, let's call it, he had the lowest talent fee.

He was going to charge us something minuscule, like 40 grand.

Like we brought out people that were 400 grand, even 2 million,

for just the talent fee.

He were like smaller than him.

Yeah, well people that were smaller than him, yeah, you're right.

And the idea that he was going to, he was a true believer in the Turning Point

and it puts me in a difficult position now,

because the yanks aren't answering my question.

I don't want to name who it was.

But the last text they sent to me was they said,

with respect, Joel, we don't have time for you guys.

We're an irony deal with 7 figure donors now.

Now, yeah, that's verbatim, I only deal with 7 figure donors now.

And it's like, what do I have to pay a million?

This is Australia, like we don't, you know, we're not rolling in a question.

Not just that, you're not a donor.

No, I'm not a donor.

Like I'm carrying your brand with two hands, like I am taking care of me.

Yeah, and so look, I said to this, this host that I'm pushing me with this question,

I said, look, it wouldn't be wise for me to opine about this.

It wouldn't be wise for me to post this.

But the fact that we've grown Turning Point,

despite your PR disaster with this whole freaking thing,

the whole, if you're doing something corrupt,

then the answer is the same.

I'm not in the wrong, you're in the wrong.

You're against the law.

Like in Australia, we have very, very strict electoral laws, very strict,

strict jail time.

We have to show who donates to us how much when they did it.

If there is any sense of improprietry in America,

with the way you're running your books, with the way you're running your operation,

I want nothing to do with it.

And so I need the facts first and foremost.

This isn't about, oh, you, oh, I said, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Like we've continued to grow despite your PI nightmare,

and to make matters worse,

there is an Iran war on right now.

And last I checked, the family was against it.

Charlie was against it.

Charlie was, he was one of the only people making private ovations to the president

about this, and the president listened.

Why aren't you, I hear that they're taking his segments down.

It's like, yeah, it's like, and they're, and they're only,

and they're saying what Charlie would have said.

Like, so they're not even saying what he would have said,

they're saying what they'd like him to say.

It's like, no, they're twisting it.

Having a little puppet and saying what you were allowed to say.

This, this makes me sick.

This, and to see, and you see this, and again, look, I'm talking about this

because I've run out of avenues.

I've tried to talk to these people on numerous occasions,

and with respect, I'm not the sort of guy that wants to just,

you know, we're middle east, we're very appreciative of what they've given me,

and I don't want to rock the boat.

But when you see 40 to 50 employees getting let off,

OG employees that have been with them for many years.

You're actually close to one of them,

and he's been telling me a lot of stuff.

One of the early guys, you know, I met, I met him, and been there 13 years this guy

from the start with Charlie, and when you see how they talk about it,

and you see them let getting let go, I'm like, hang on, six months ago,

Erica was describing this people as her family.

You don't go after my family, and then this is how you treat your family.

Yeah, there's some things that are not aligning with what she's saying, you know,

she went on stage, what was it like two weeks after Charlie's staff

and said she forgives the shooter.

And then a couple of weeks later, she's like, I can't forgive Candace.

What?

It doesn't start.

That doesn't make any sense.

So you forgive the guy that took your husband's life,

father of your children.

Okay, very Christian of you, love it.

You don't forgive a woman who was friends with your husband

because she's investigating into what happened.

Yeah.

What?

Yeah, and look, the comments that I've said here today

may make me lose turning point Australia.

But again, okay, how are you going to handle that?

You just blame me.

No, but like, I don't do that.

I don't do that to friends.

But the idea, like, okay, so what's the plan?

You're going to, okay, let's strip Joel of turning point.

That'll really show him.

Oh, great.

Another PR nightmare, you know, I'm not even condemning them.

I'm just saying, there's, you're not, there's no communication.

I'm the head of a branch in, in a whole country.

We were looking at expansion to New Zealand.

We've got people in the Philippines, in Japan, in South Korea.

They're all contacting us because you guys aren't talking to them.

And they want to start.

They want to live on Charlie's legacy.

But their optics are off.

Yeah.

And it leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

I'll just be honest.

Anyways.

Yeah, it's, it's an enormous source of frustration for me because the,

um,

Charlie couldn't have been more clear about what he stood for.

There's, there's, there's hundreds of thousands of hours of content on him.

We know who he is.

We know who he stood for.

It's, it's, yeah, it's tough because he sacrificed so much for

getting Trump elect to the White House.

He did, he's the man.

Like Gavin Newsom, the governor of California,

it was the first guest he invited,

almost Charlie, because he recognized this as a guy.

It could be president one day.

And he won Trump the presidency in those sort of states.

And the other cowardice, the other, the other cowardice is, is disgusting.

I do have a question for you, um, regarding, you know,

turning point in America.

Are you worried about AI?

So my concern is that they're going to start putting out videos of Charlie

using AI saying what they want him to say.

Oh, newfound footage.

That's, that's my concern because we see videos of him popping up everywhere.

And it would be very easy for them to just throw in an AI video of him saying,

oh, no, maybe we should support this war.

Now I think about it.

You know, like, that's my concern.

You really can't trust anything we see online anymore.

Yeah, whilst I'd agree with you, I just, I have too much respect for the internet

and the, um, their ability to disprove it.

They're too good.

The internet's too good.

I mean, the, the way that they're like, no, this was an archive of those huge question marks.

I think it would be even worse.

So look, turning point, turning point.

Yeah, honestly, there's not much more I can say on, on this.

I just don't get why they haven't sued Candace.

It's, it's a huge, I'm not even saying what you're saying.

It's true. Candace is true.

But if they don't have a strong case, their lawyers would not do it.

Yeah.

And clearly that's what's happening.

So put two and two together.

Yeah.

And I think Candace is a little insane.

I'm not going to lie.

Probably we have a great time with her, you know, in private.

She has been off with a number of things.

She exaggerates and has lost a lot of credibility.

But I admire how stubborn she is.

And I admire that she asks questions.

So yeah.

Like if you have something God forbid would happen to me.

You'd want Candace to look into it.

If anything happens to you, I will become the new Candace.

Yeah, okay.

Well, that's nice.

That's believe.

Yes, yes, publicly sourced.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

So where do you go with that?

And where do we go with that?

We could switch it up and talk about another topic

that won't get us put on a hit list.

Although that's everything we've talked about so far.

Literally, we've gone up.

His feminism, LGBTQ.

Muslim brotherhood.

You know, China, China, China, China, China is the only one

we haven't got.

Look, there's this whole people have asked me often

like who runs the world.

And I've just been like, look, I don't think it's one organization.

I think it's a bunch of gangster groups.

I think you've got like the Chinese, Mafia,

like the sort of like that.

Try ads.

You know, the try ads, the Russians.

They've got their interest.

The problem is the reason why we've got an imbalance in the West

is it's no longer nationalism.

It's no longer Britain first.

It's no longer Australia first.

Where some of these, let's just say,

other gangster groups have gotten their tentacles so far

into Australia and the USA and the UK,

to the point that they've basically made their interests,

our nationals interests.

They've used Operation Mockingbird as their template

to persuade and manipulate the public.

Just fascinating.

I was reading a great story the other day.

One guy was with, this is like in the 80s.

An American was in Russia, the USSR,

and he was saying, you guys have a Tensana much propaganda you have.

We don't really have that in the USA.

And the Soviet was just like, exactly.

That's the point.

That's the best propaganda.

You don't even realize you're being programmed,

basically.

Yeah.

Poor statements.

Yeah.

Would you go to Russia?

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

No, I would.

I want to go to you.

I would.

I have to go on my British passport,

but we should do it.

I have made enemies in Russia.

That's the only problem.

That's a story for another time.

For other issues.

But tell me, Jade,

where do you

hiring question?

Where do you see yourself in five years?

I guess what I'm trying to ask is what?

Hopefully alive.

How do you measure success being alive?

Happiness.

Yeah, I mean, it's money obviously can help

and being successful financially

and in your business.

Okay, it's going to lead to an easier life in some aspects.

But the big you are, the big your problems as well.

And I am experiencing that now.

But yeah, it's about happiness.

So are you content?

Are you happy with your life?

Are you healthy?

Is your family good?

That's all that matters really at the end of the day.

Take everything else away.

Have you got a reverb your head?

Yeah. Are you loved?

Is your stomach full?

Yeah.

That's it.

Kids on a personal level?

What about kids?

Would you consider?

I want kids I want to have a family

want to raise a little army of Jade offsprings.

Yeah.

They're all learning different languages and go in a MMA.

But yeah, it's it's it's difficult

As we said, they don't make men like that anymore.

Sure.

So, um, you know, I'm 28 and I'm considering, you know,

freezing some of my eggs, giving some of them away

to people who can't have children.

I know there's a lot of Catholics that think that that's really bad.

But at the end of the day, like,

if I can help someone, I'm going to help someone.

I'll talk to God when I get up there.

I felt that was a bad move or not.

But, um, yeah, I mean, if I

date someone who shares my values and will protect me and be loyal,

then 100% getting married, having kids.

If not, hopefully I become wealthy enough to do it on my own.

Wouldn't really want to raise a child without a father.

But yeah, that's the most important decision a woman can make is who she has children with.

So that's where I struggle.

Sure.

No, but I think I think, um, I think what you're doing is enormously beneficial to a lot of people

out there, a lot of families out there to work out their happy place.

You know, I think there's enormous courage and power and what and where you're doing.

And so you, you mentioned L.A., you sort of

rode yourself off and said, I'm not really making a huge impact in America.

But I think it's enormously powerful.

Inspiring men to step up and man up and also women to not

to sort of inspire men as well and like, and also choose wisely.

Yeah.

Yeah, which is critical.

Yeah, it's rough out there.

These rough.

Yeah, we'll see if it's supposed to happen.

I always say, you know, there's fault.

God wills it.

Yeah.

If it's not, it's okay.

That's it.

That's it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was going to say, um, just closing off because this has been, um,

again, this is how we chat offline.

Um, well, we're soft-line,

whether there's no community guidelines to stop.

That's right.

That's right.

We are swearing usually a lot more.

Um,

uh, should I ask this question?

Yes.

If Charlie was here, what would you ask him?

Oh, man, that's, that's loaded because I never, I never met him.

I just watched, you know, his clips.

Um, I'd ask him

what the American people should do now, what they should focus on.

Is it focusing on the war?

Or is it just, you know, growing our own food,

buying land, starting our own communities?

What should they focus on?

Yeah.

Yeah, if I was, uh, obviously, on the interviewer here, but if I, if he was here, um,

and you could like resurrect him and ask him a question,

because not many people understand the situation I'm in with, with turning point.

Again, a snapshot of Australia.

We've, we've done quite well in Australia turning point.

We've got, we get about 220 million views a year,

2% of voters use our voting cards because we have preferential voting.

So it means we can lobby pretty much any politician in the country.

It's fantastic.

And, um, we, we haven't used paper with used paper.

The lightest Australia, um, which, which is, does very well.

It's independent.

It's great journalism, uh, basically runs itself.

I barely get involved.

They do a great job.

They've done 3 million physical prints.

And, um, we've got like a $300,000 studio in the, in the heart of Sydney.

Um, and we're only four years old.

But the one question I'd ask Charlie is,

what do you regret getting President Trump elected?

Do you regret putting so much energy and sacrificing so much personally?

And, company wise, I mean, he,

if all of his efforts was to this one solution,

getting Trump elected, you know, do you regret that?

And if so, what would you have chosen to do instead?

Obviously, he would say, well, look, I'd like to think he would say,

I don't regret what I've done to this point.

I know I was doing the right thing.

But moving forward, I would do X.

Yes.

What is?

Yeah.

What is X?

Is it electrically?

Yes.

Is politics worthless?

In my heart, I don't think it is.

I think you stood still, play a role in politics.

I think we can still create cultural change through politics and through media.

But I would just ask him, how would you go about doing that?

That's a fair question.

Do you ever feel like you want to quit?

No, I can't quit.

I can't quit.

It's a real hard.

I can't.

What do you want to do?

I don't think I can quit because I'm just too opinionated and I don't like injustice.

I used to be a democratic socialist years ago.

Six years ago.

I'm so sorry.

It's, I don't know.

Well, look, I had a heart.

So, you know, if you're, if you're never on the left, you didn't have a heart.

A heart.

But no, like I, what got me it's important to understand what

drew you in because it was on good, it was for good reasons.

It was seeing injustice.

It was seeing obviously they, they tug on the hard strings on the left.

They're very good at it.

So I, I don't know what happened in my childhood where I saw injustice.

But clearly, I am drawn to make a difference in my, I can't just sit by in a train while someone's

getting beaten up.

I just can't do it.

You know, I remember when I was younger, I was going to university one time and some colored

bloke through a university student down the stairs in the train.

And he started trying to beat him up.

Like, I just got between him and forced him away, basically off the train and the police got him.

But I remember talking to my then girlfriend, she said,

why the hell did you do that?

Stay out of it.

Listen to that.

I was like, I don't think you understand.

I can't do that.

I cannot do that.

It's not in me to do that.

Yeah, fight off light reflexes.

You're a fighter, as am I, would built that way.

Yeah.

And so I don't think there's a version of this where I just step back.

And so the real question is, what does that look like going ahead?

Don't get me wrong.

I want to have kids.

I want to get married.

I want to find a girl and move forward with my life.

But, um, yeah, I can't do nothing.

Yeah, I can't do nothing.

But you know, the tough.

But you're doing a lot.

I appreciate that.

I know after we met, you've seen a lot more of what I do.

But the tough part about music, again, therapy,

the toughest part about losing Charlie was, again, we weren't tight.

We never even met in person.

It was only on Zoom.