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• No one can question that Israel is a far-right apartheid state now that the Knesset has made death by hanging the default sentence for murder—but only for Palestinians. Jewish Israelis who commit the same crimes like West Bank settlers who lynch Palestinians to steal their land, will get to live. Execution by hanging will occur within 90 days of sentencing, with some right to delay but no clemency. Israel abolished the death penalty for murder in 1954. The only person executed in Israel after a civilian trial was Adolf Eichmann, in 1962.
• Spain blocked U.S. military aircraft involved in the Iran War from using its airspace, marking the latest rupture between Washington and Madrid. Spain already had refused to allow use of the strategically critical Rota and Morón bases in southern Spain, installations long viewed as key hubs for American military operations into Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
• Iran attacked and set ablaze a fully loaded Kuwaiti crude oil tanker anchored at Dubai port, with the strike damaging the vessel’s hull. Is Iran is trying to lure the U.S. into a ground war, knowing prolonged involvement could force Trump into a more favorable deal for Tehran? Dual chokepoint disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb could cripple up to ~45% of global oil supply, potentially sending prices toward $150–$200+ and pressuring the global economy. Gas in the US is now an average of $4/gallon.
• Ron DeSantis, Florida’s governor, signed a bill saying Palm Beach international airport is being renamed to the President Donald J Trump international airport. Trademark applications are pending for extensive lists of merchandise — clothing for people and pets, bags, watches, jewelry, umbrellas, tie clips and socks, along with airport lounges. Trump also posted a video of a rendering of his presidential library, set to dramatic music, which showed an enormous mirrored skyscraper emblazoned with his name and the American flag.
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Good morning, you're watching Deep Program with Ted Rawl and John Kiriaku.
Robby West is in and out today because his tummy is not feeling too good, so we're sorry
about that, Robby.
Anyway, thanks for liking, following, and sharing the show.
We're here Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern time.
Beginning tomorrow, supplementally, we will be doing an exclusively question and answer
show.
So that'll be Wednesday, 12 noon tomorrow, again, next week, Monday and Wednesday, so that's
the deal going from five to seven hours a week, which I'm looking forward to.
So today, we're going to be talking about this heinous new law, John, that's just been
passed by the Kineset in Israel and is very likely to be signed into law by Benjamin Netanyahu
that basically restores the death penalty by hanging in Israel, but only for Palestinians
not for Israeli Jews.
But Israel is not in apartheid state.
No, not in apartheid state at all.
Basically it's lynching.
We'll get into that.
Spain became the latest country to join France and Italy, not allowing its airspace to be
used for the US to attack or support the attack against Iran.
A fully loaded Kuwaiti oil tanker was fully set ablaze by the Iranians in the port of
Dubai.
If you look at the video, it's pretty impressive.
But they did manage finally to put it out for environmental reasons alone.
I'm glad they did, but holy cow, it looks like now, the powers that be in official Washington
are sort of getting a clue that Iran is winning and that they're trying to lure the US into
a ground war.
May I enter up to you on that, Ted?
Please.
There's a report that came out less than five minutes ago.
I've got it right here.
Iran, Iran National News Agency, INN, says an IRGC spokesperson, Brigadier General Ali
Mohamed Nayini, said that Iranian missile strikes killed members of Israel's military
intelligence.
Iran reportedly fired dozens of missiles at the headquarters of the Israeli military
intelligence agency Aman, considered the backbone of military intelligence collection.
Wow.
Yeah.
True.
That's a big deal.
There's video.
I have no idea if the video is real or if it's AI, but this is what the Iranians are reporting.
All right.
We'll follow that.
And if anybody hears anything about that, put it into the chat.
Please, by the way, put in your questions into the live chat if you're watching on Rumble
or YouTube live in the nine o'clock hour Eastern.
We have some leftover questions from yesterday.
We'll get to those first thing.
We'll also any Q&As that we questions that we don't get to today.
We'll kick into tomorrow.
And then everything gets asked during the Q&A.
And of course, obviously, it'll be a live chat.
And Q&A is basically anything that you want to know, anything.
Rhonda Santis signed a bill officially proclaiming Palm Beach International Airport.
It will be named the President Donald J. Trump International Airport.
We'll be talking about that.
And also the presidential library that you see with the big red, white and blue penis up
on top.
Very exciting.
The giant flag.
I mean, oh, my God.
It's ridiculous.
And two golden statues.
Not one.
Two.
We've got to have two.
And of course, copying the Reagan library with an Air Force one in the lobby.
You know, John, the thing about that library thing is sort of like people online.
Republicans are posting comparisons of it to the Obama one in Chicago.
And they're like, which ones better looking?
I'm like, neither.
They're both awful.
They're both awful.
Why do people insist on this either or all the time?
They're both awful.
Both.
Yeah, it's like we can get together.
We can have bipartisanship on shitty architecture.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's, I guess, should we knock something off and then do some, do some of the leftover
questions?
Absolutely.
We can start with Israel.
I mean, yeah, let's do that.
This is sickening.
So the Israeli Knesset, as you pointed out, has passed this law calling for the death penalty
by hanging, but only for Palestinians who are convicted of taking a life during the
commission of a terrorist act.
But of course, it's the extreme right wing government in Israel that decides what meets
the criteria of a terrorist attack and what doesn't.
And this would, by definition, not apply to West Bank settlers who attack and who are
terrorists who are terrorizing and attacking, you know, Palestinians who are locals in order
to, you know, just to get rid of ethnically cleanse them.
And in many cases, to steal their land.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I mean, basically, they're, they're selling Ben Gavir with photographed
a videotaped toasting this passage of this law with champagne.
He said, this is a quote, we will count them, the hanged Palestinians, one by one, he said,
while laughing.
Yeah.
This is a bloodthirsty government.
John, at this point, nobody can question that it's in apartheid state because this is,
I mean, even apartheid South Africa didn't have a separate legal code for whites and
blacks on paper.
That's exactly right.
It was a egalitarian society.
It was just in practice.
It was, they had apartheid.
In this case, this is, they're, they're codifying racial and, and their discrimination within
the areas in their control.
And I know what they're going to say is, well, the supply is not to Israel proper, it
applies to the West Bank.
But that's sophistry.
They've controlled this territory since as long as you and I are alive.
And it's specifically, it specifically exempts settlers who kill Palestinians from coverage.
So if you're a settler, you're just some guy from New Jersey who, who goes to the West
Bank, opens fire on some Palestinian family.
You're good to go.
But if you're a Palestinian who shoots the guy from New Jersey to protect your home
from being seized by these American settlers, you're hanged.
It's a nice country.
Yeah, nice country.
So the death penalty was abolished in 1954.
Yeah.
The only exception was Adolf Eichmann, who was correct in 1962.
And so basically, I don't know how they justified that just by saying, well, war crimes are different
or whatever, because if there's no death penalty, I don't know, maybe he was tried not
under Israeli criminal law, right?
Yes.
So basically, this is a country that's kind of been a small L attempt.
They said, there's been a strong tradition of small L liberalism, you know, the whole
Kibbutz movement.
There's a socialist movement.
I mean, there's no left at all.
There's no moderate at all.
This is a far, far right.
John, how is anyone going to still in the United States?
How are the Zionists going to be able to continue to defend Israel?
I mean, I know they'll try, but how are they going to do it?
They will.
They'll try.
But it's going to, it's going to be one of those disingenuous things, Ted.
How can you possibly defend something like this?
It's disgusting.
Can you imagine equal justice under the law is absolutely, how can you claim that you're
a democracy, if the only democracy in the Middle East, if you don't have equal justice
under the law?
That's right.
That's right.
No, this, this, there's just no upside to this.
There's no way to defend it.
There's just no way.
I mean, do you think what do you think is going to happen when they start hanging Palestinians,
which they will?
And by the way, this is a mandatory sentence, John.
I mean, like if you're found guilty of this offense, they're supposed to hang you within
90 days.
There's a few provisions for a slight delay, but probably not to be granted in most cases.
No clemency is possible, right?
So later, also if it turns out that the person's not guilty, got to do the scare quotes for
that.
Well, there's no, there's no takebacks.
It's not like, no, when you're dead, you're dead.
That's the end of it.
So how, how on earth are the same people who criticize Iran for hanging political dissidents?
How are they going to be able to criticize, defend the Israelis?
I mean, it's the same thing.
I can actually easily see how some of these, some of these, well, two camps.
First of all, right wingers on Capitol Hill, you know, they view the death penalty as
legit punishment and that it's better, let me rephrase, it's less bad to kill an innocent
person than to allow a guilty person to live, exactly the other way around.
Exactly the other way.
I'm with you.
That's the one hand.
On the other hand, among Democrats, I think that the most ardent Zionists among the Democrats
are going to say, well, you know, terrorism, we don't want another 9-11, we don't want
another October 7th, or they'll just be like, la, la, la, la, I can't hear you just
won't comment on it.
Sure.
Sickening.
Absolutely.
Sickening.
And then I guess we could talk about Spain because that's a pretty quick thing to get
out of the way.
So Spain is pissing off the right and the Trump administration by not allowing US Air Force
to aircraft to cross, apparently that's pretty big deal because traditionally Spanish
airspace has been fuck.
I don't know if Ted is frozen or if I'm frozen.
You can somebody let me know if Ted is frozen, somebody in the chat.
I would sure appreciate it.
This thing has been happening, yeah, Ted's frozen, okay, okay, Ted's frozen, all right.
Thank you.
John's good.
I'm ready to go on the show for like 20 minutes beforehand.
I froze three times, you know what, so I'm going to take this, I'm going to take an opportunity
till Ted comes on of saying that we got both Ted and I got an email from Scott yesterday
saying that he believed it was a mistake to focus yesterday on that issue that was happening
and I wanted to say thank you for that email, Scott and your concerns are duly noted
and I have to say in retrospect, you're probably right.
Yeah, I kind of agree with that too.
Yeah, I don't.
I'll be the contrarian like usual, I mean, don't go after my friends, I'm going to go
after you.
Now, but we should have been talking about the issues yesterday, though, too.
I will admit that after the show, when I was replaying the show in my mind, I was thinking,
oh, that was kind of a pity party for John and Ted, we probably shouldn't have done that.
It's not yet.
It shouldn't be about us.
It really shouldn't be about the news.
That's true.
Well, I'm going to push back again because as Ted knows, well, Ted's frozen again, so
yeah, that's what it is.
No, it's John frozen.
They both froze.
No, I'm here.
I'm here.
John.
Awesome.
We're just going to rotate.
So I'm picking my guts out and the two of you were taking turns freezing.
This is going to be a great show.
So hand back.
There we go.
But no, I mean, seriously, here's how I look at this.
This is your show and what I'm talking about you, I'm talking about you, the viewer.
This show would not exist without your being here, your donations, your watch hours, the
people watching, the people tuning in every single day and watch.
If it was up for you, this show would not exist.
And so you, all of you have a vested interest to know what is going on with the hosts of
this show, the attacks that they go through.
Y'all know what happened to me back in November.
How is this any different?
It seems question.
That's right.
If anything, it's worse because there's spoofing phone numbers and people that you know,
they're spoofing your phone numbers that this guy was.
And if you're but hurt because we address this issue, that's a due problem.
That's not a John and Ted problem.
And for what's not a Robbie problem, either?
Yeah.
And it's like, how about just engage instead of harassing people who you did agree with,
which frankly, I don't do, John doesn't do, Robbie doesn't do, like it's like, you know,
look, there's lots of venues just like this one that you can use to express yourself.
And prove and, you know, make fun of us and show how we're wrong, right?
And at the same time, we really did report this to the FBI yesterday, we really did report
it to the, to the two carriers, AT&T and T mobile.
And they're on it.
Yeah.
But someone said, by the way, several people said, like, I thought John didn't like the FBI.
I don't.
Except when they work for me.
And they work for me.
I'm a taxpayer.
Yeah.
I don't like the FBI either.
I don't like, John, I'd both talked about it like, oh, man, I hate to involve cops.
I, you know, if you said that, I'm not one of the, you know, if you see something, say
something, if I see something, I don't say anything.
But, you know, sometimes there, it can't be helped.
Mm-hmm.
So.
Yeah.
But Robbie, you have some, some, some housekeeping.
Yeah, let me get this out of the way before I go away again.
So if you send me a super chat that we miss, the, no, the donation amount is nice, but
I don't really need it.
Really, what I need is the question.
If you send me the donation amount without a question, I don't know a question that
is that you're trying to ask.
So that's the biggest thing.
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And also John now has a official TikTok.
Yeah.
He said, Robby, I want to get on TikTok, I'm like, no, you don't want to go on TikTok.
He said, yeah, so he now has a official TikTok at official John Kerriaku.
They're on TikTok.
So he's there and he's on rumble and I will be working on fluffing up that content all
this week and just blaster stuff out.
So go follow him.
Also, I'm still on cameo, I'm happy to say I had lunch on Friday with the CEO of cameo.
He came into town just to have lunch really because I set an all time record for the number
of cameos done in the month of March.
And there, I, I'm third all time in cameos already behind only Brian Baumgartner, Kevin
from the office and of all crazy people, George Santos, what a, what a rogue gallery.
So listen, if you want to cameo, just go to cameo.com, type in John, just type in John and
I pop right up, which they thought was hilarious.
And I tell you who I, who I passed to be number third and he sent me a cameo congratulating
me was Johnny Sack Vince Curitola from the sopranos.
Oh, my God.
He's like John Kerriaku, Johnny Sack here.
I'm a big fan.
He says, you've dethroned me as the number three on cameo.
So now the both of us are in the cameo hall of fame.
Congratulations.
That's awesome.
I love it.
We got everything covered on your hand.
Yeah.
But you'll come over to rubble.
Come hang out.
Well, just fine.
In the patient board.
Happy nausea.
Okay.
Oh, and also can you tag my tuk-tuk in the chat so people know which one is actually mine.
Yep.
I'll do it.
Thank you, buddy.
You're welcome.
Okay.
Okay.
Back to the news.
I don't know how I'm going to follow you over to tuk-tuk.
Probably not.
So Spain, we got interrupted.
How important is this story?
I think this is very important.
Yesterday, when we talked about, we talked about Spain closing its airspace to the US military,
we also predicted that other countries would follow suit.
And now other countries are following suit.
Italy?
Yeah.
Italy today.
Said France is next.
Yes.
The French already said so.
The French already said so.
And Ireland.
Ireland is, you know, it'll happen today.
So Donald Trump, too, has been so hypocritical about this.
On the one hand, he said, you know, screw NATO.
We don't need NATO.
We don't like NATO.
We don't trust NATO.
We threaten to invade Greenland and Greenland zone by Denmark, which is a NATO country.
Screw NATO.
And then on the other hand, he's like, why is a NATO helping us?
Well, wait a minute.
You just said we don't need NATO, screw NATO.
Now you're lamenting the fact that NATO is not helping us.
First of all, you never consulted with NATO.
Exactly.
You never got them on board.
Yeah.
We never went to the NATO countries and said, listen, we're going to invade Iran.
And so we're going to want your help.
Never said a word.
We just did what Netanyahu told us to do.
And then we just were self-flagulating over the fact that NATO doesn't want to jump in
and fight our war for us.
I don't understand this administration's seeming complete disinterest in buy-in, whether
it's domestically or internationally.
They don't feel like they need to get anyone else involved and they want to go it alone.
And yet they want everyone to help them out.
Yeah.
That's the part I don't get at all.
When I want to do something on my own without my friends or family's approval, I just,
I do that because I don't need or want their help.
Why would Trump think anything different?
Yes.
I have to agree.
You know, there are going to be some NATO countries, Greece being the most obvious that are going
to carry Israeli water.
This is something that I'm ashamed of as a dual U.S. Greek national.
The Greeks are doing it strictly for the money.
Greece historically was the closest European country to the Palestinians.
All the various Palestinian groups through the 70s, the 80s into the 90s had representative
offices in Athens and the PLO had an embassy in Athens.
And then as soon as natural gas was discovered under cipriate waters and the cipriates in
the Greeks needed help to lift the gas and the field stretched all the way to Israel
and the Israelis jumped in and said, hey, not only will we help you lift this gas, but
Turkey's our enemy and Turkey's your enemy.
So one of the three of us huddle on this and the Greeks have been in bed with the Israelis
ever since.
Yes.
As Trump would say, hashtag sad Christian banks, let's ask you to do some of these questions.
26.56.
Thanks for the five bucks.
Was a Trump reelection the only shot at sparking a socialist revolution by exposing the U.S.
If Kamala one would have been pacified by quote unquote democracy, hashtag anarchy, look,
I would love to see a socialist revolution, nothing would make me happier.
But I don't think we are in a pre-revolutionary moment.
I think we're in a counterrevolutionary fascist moment.
I'm about to write my column probably later today for this week and I think we are officially
entering what Robert Paxson would officially define as a fascist state.
It has been like, well, we're in danger, but we're not there, but I don't think that's
true anymore.
Oh, my God, John, oh, there's John.
Okay.
I don't know what the heck is wrong with my connectivity today.
I don't know.
Unlike the signal strike that has blown the doors off the place, I'm plugged right into
the wall with the ethernet cable, but you're not, it's not stable, though.
It's not stable.
I couldn't understand it.
All right.
So let's, anyway, so in terms of that question, if Kamala had won, we'd have been pacified.
That's true.
We would have been brunch back, brunch Democrats would have prevailed.
Thanks for the 999 from, oh, my God, this is so embarrassing.
From Brady.
Okay.
So the question we're thought, this is for you, John, thoughts on James Fishback.
I got in a little trouble with James Fishback last time.
So somebody asked me about James Fishback three or four weeks ago, and I said, I saw
the guy on Tucker, and he made a lot of really great points.
And I said, if you're in Florida and you're a voter, a registered Florida voter, and
you're going to vote in the Republican primary, take a look at James Fishback.
And within seconds, somebody blurted out on X that I've endorsed James Fishback.
Oh, no.
And the next thing you know is there are pictures of James Fishback with Nick Fuentes and
all of a sudden, I got burned.
I will say James Fishback, I like James Fishback's position on APAC and on political support for
Israel.
I like it very much.
I think he makes a lot of sense.
He's polling under 5% in the Florida primary.
He's very young.
I think he has a future, a political future.
I think he needs to drop the likes of Nick Fuentes and make a name for himself.
On the issue of Israel, I like his position.
I don't know about his other positions.
I'm not a Republican.
I'm not an alt-right.
I'm not a conservative in any way.
So I'm not endorsing James Fishback.
I've never endorsed James Fishback, but I'm interested to watch that race.
John, a little two-breaking pieces of news.
First of all, that Russian ship containing 730,000 barrels of oil has arrived in Cuba.
Why did the Trump administration agree to that after, you know, I mean, is it another
taco moment?
What's going on?
The Iranians are kicking our asses right now.
We can't risk both the Iranians and the Russians kicking our asses at the same time.
I think that's really what it comes down to.
Would the Russians have attacked us militarily, if-
I doubt it, but I think the Russians could have made things difficult in a whole bunch
in different ways if we had tried to block this shipment of fuel.
The truth is crazy.
The US Embassy is going to be a recipient of that fuel, too.
Well, that's funny.
My take is that if Cuba collapses now, the US is really going to have a handful, it's
handful, because it's going to have to create some kind of law and order regime involving
US troops down there, right, to try to keep things from falling apart too quickly.
Also-
Yes.
This is from Reuters, they always have- they've been doing a lot of yeoman's work lately.
Oh, they've been terrific the last few weeks.
The US counterterrorism officials are planning a summit targeting Antifa and the left in
general.
What the fuck?
That's why I have my French passport renewed.
What?
I have been telling my friends and family members that I intend to buy a condo in Athens
by the end of the year.
And then about a week ago, a little business opportunity popped up, and I thought,
you know what?
I've got a couple extra dollars for the first time in 20 years.
Maybe I'll think about this little business opportunity and put my money there instead.
No.
No.
The house is-
Yeah.
You can do business- business comes and goes, personal safety is forever.
To read, thanks for the two dollars.
On a lighter note, 12 tons of KitKat bars, I remember that, I read that, were hijacked
on Route to Poland, and Nestle had to publish a presser.
That's the world coming to.
John, also, what nobody's talking about is not only is all that chocolate missing and
the truck, the drivers MIA too, but nobody seems to care about that.
Unbelievable.
It's like Tucker Carlson's entire shipment of chewing tobacco this year, a couple of
weeks ago.
It's like millions of dollars all packed into an 18-wheeler.
It's probably being sold out of the back of somebody's trunk in Brooklyn.
Yeah.
No doubt about that.
I used to see that all the time.
I bought a TV that way.
I had to pick someone's car one time, and my dad bought my mom a fur that way.
The same dude sold me the first public enemy bootleg tape, so obviously there was some
sort of connection there.
By the way, it's highly collectible and very good.
Rawl Dubbrew, thanks for the $4.99.
First of all, thank you, gentlemen.
The show has found me at a perfect time in my life.
What would be some advice you would give a new father?
I'm so, I love that question.
That's a great question.
In fact, it's a question that I've answered at least a dozen times on, on cameo.
May I start?
Please, you have five.
I have five kids.
The advice is for your wife.
Tell your wife to sleep every time the baby sleeps.
The baby's going to be up like only four hours a day, right?
But those four hours are in the middle of the night.
So tell her to sleep every time the baby sleeps.
The laundry can wait, the shopping can wait, make grocery delivery your friend.
Don't worry if the house gets a little dirty.
It needs to be vacuumed.
That's what grandmothers are for when they come to help.
So tell your wife to sleep at every opportunity.
You should sleep too, but do whatever you can to backfill what needs to be done in the
house.
Treat her like a queen.
She needs kindness right now.
That's all 100% correct.
My advice would be, and this is for moms too, the marriage comes first.
The kid comes a very close second, but the marriage has to be first because that's what's
holding it together for the kids.
I think a lot of American parents don't do that.
They put their kids first and their marriage second, and then they have done up miserable,
tired and divorced, and it sucks.
That's right.
A weird Monday, thanks for Hogscanieland, thanks for the $5, a weird Monday becomes crash
out Tuesday.
I don't know how this ends.
Thanks for the reply on X-John, made my day better.
Yes, my graph, thanks for the $5 Australian dollars.
John, a bit Ben Shapiro will still say Israel isn't apartheid and Ted, I have ADHD and people
call me the R word, but I give you the pass and I love you, Rob, thank you.
Manchild, $5,000, two bucks, thank you.
Good morning, is there any thought to whether you run or their proxies are planning symbolic
or high optics provocations, specifically time to coincide with Passover, if so they
deserve it in my humble opinion?
That wouldn't surprise me at all.
Both sides do that.
That's like routine.
And symbolism is very important, especially in the world, right?
Bugs and clowns, thanks for the $5.
Hey guys, John, I've never heard you speak in Greek.
I would love to hear it.
Thank you for all you do and have a great day.
Thank you.
I thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
First of all, Veronica Delphi, thank you for the $9.99.
Why Athens over at the Saloniki?
Athens, since the first time I saw it, I fell in love with it.
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The place.
And it was kind of a shit hole city in 1985 when I went the first time and having come from
Rome and having seen this gigantic difference between Rome, which was pristine and Athens,
which was covered from top to bottom with graffiti, I still fell over the place.
Why over at the Saloniki?
Only because of ease of travel.
I absolutely love and adore at the Saloniki.
It's one of the great cities of Europe.
It's clean.
It's friendly.
There's a ton of stuff to do.
The housing prices are a fraction of what Athens is.
And Athens is one of the cheapest places to live in Europe.
But Athens is just so full of life.
There's so much action.
It's a 24 hour city.
It's a magnificent place for music and art and food and you're a hopskip at a jump from
anywhere, whether it's by boat or by plane.
I just love the place.
And I want an apartment that has, I don't care if this apartment is 100 square feet.
I want an in your face view of the Parthenon.
And that's what I will have.
Maybe you'll be the new US ambassador to Greece and then you will have such a view.
D. Jic, thanks for the 99 cents.
Sam Adams, thanks for the $4.99.
So curious to ask John in your executive briefings.
How often would Chamber of Commerce business names be mentioned?
Frequently.
Yeah, frequently.
Yeah, I'm not sure if I should say more than that, but I will tell you that many, many times.
I've been down there at the Chamber of Commerce headquarters.
Cat Quest 1999, thank you so much.
Good morning, gentlemen.
Thank you for what you do.
And thank you for that.
D. Jic, thanks for the $1.99.
Additionally, John, did you like Obama before the prison stuff?
I like to Obama for a minute.
My ex and I went to the inauguration in January of 2009.
And almost immediately, he announced a continuation of the Bush foreign policy.
You know, he said the right things about withdrawing from Iraq.
But the foreign policy was decidedly neoliberal.
I mean, frigging Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State.
When we've got some time, I'll tell you the whole Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State story.
Okay, but yeah, it's my support for Obama lasted a minute.
Yeah, I was skeptical.
I was I voted for for Obama.
I was highly Obama skeptical because he had run against the Iraq war.
And then I checked his voting record in the Senate and he had voted six out of six times
as a senator to fund the Iraq war.
That's exactly right.
And I was like, that guy's full of shit.
But I also thought we really needed a first black president
and it was 250 years overdue.
So I regret that vote, though.
I wouldn't have voted for McCain.
But Deb's farm, thanks so much for the $20.
Last week, John thought the government shutdown was over.
Then the House came back with their own version.
What do you think about this?
Right, you know, we should have mentioned that on yesterday.
On Monday and we had we ran out of time feeling sorry for ourselves.
So yeah, I mean, the conventional wisdom here in Washington was,
okay, the Senate passed a budget for TSA.
The House is just going to fall in line and then the president is going to sign it.
And the Republicans in the House rejected it.
I think everybody in Washington was surprised by this.
And so Donald Trump moved some money around sign an executive order,
which I think he's actually not allowed to do because the money hasn't been authorized.
No, he's not allowed to do that.
He's not allowed to do it.
You can't do it.
But then what's going to happen?
Somebody's going to sue him.
It's going to take six months by then everybody's forgotten about it.
And so we're taken by events anyway.
But isn't he going to regret this?
Because now there's no pressure on the Democrats at all.
The long lines have vanished at the airports.
The Democrats were sitting pretty.
Yeah, the Democrats won on this.
Yeah, Porsche, Porsche John, it's just $5.
Just bought my first house with my wife and just wanted to share the blessings with y'all.
I think John's chances of a partner are good.
It's the year of good things for guys named John.
Let's hope so.
Sparrow, thanks for the Australian $2.
Saudi monarchy being an OSS MI-6 placement.
I don't think so because the Saudi monarchy was a result of a civil war
between the El Saoud family and the Rashid family that took place in the 1920s and 1930s.
OSS wasn't even a thing until the start of the Second World War.
And the CIA wasn't a thing until the passage of the National Security Act of 1947.
So I don't think so.
Besides, that was all seen as the British area of interest.
A-packed test dummy, thanks for the dollar.
How are who stated the term hate crime?
John knew this from memory, but I think this started in the 1980s.
I think it came out of the left, it came out of the Democratic Party.
And the idea was that racial bias incidents should be pushed more severely.
Then if you kill someone because you want their money,
it shouldn't be as serious as if he'd kill someone because you don't like the color of their skin.
For the record, I fucking hate the idea of hate crimes as an idea.
If you kill someone, you've killed them.
Why you killed them is part of the theory of the prosecution,
but it shouldn't affect the punishment in my opinion.
Ted, the term hate crime emerged in the United States in the mid-1980s
coined by journalists, civil rights activists, and advocacy groups,
especially the anti-definition League of Beneba Riff,
which used to be a legitimate group.
It was used in 1985 and 1986 to describe a surge in attacks against Asians, Blacks, and Jews.
Yeah, okay.
So, hey, my memory's not failing.
No, you hit it on the head.
Huxlex, five bucks, are you aware that the former Shaw publicly soured on Israel
before his ouster in 1979, possibly the reason for him being deposed?
Well, it probably didn't help him.
To stay in power, right?
But I was aware of that.
Yeah.
In fact, there had been an Israeli embassy in Tehran,
and it was downgraded to an Israeli intersection by the time the Shaw was overthrown.
So, it probably, do you think that the main effect there was that he had less access
to intelligence cooperation with the Mossad, and therefore,
do you less about what was going on?
Yeah, I do.
James Kelly, thanks for the five.
Do you think the new law is because they're losing power,
kind of like how the Nazis fast-tracked mass killing before they were overthrown?
That's a good point.
I hadn't considered that.
I think it's part of it.
I think it's also like when a country is spinning, is going down the toilet,
and they just stop caring what everyone else thinks.
You know, that's, they're so isolated.
They have their heads so far up their own asses,
and they think like, we're all alone.
We can't count on anyone.
We have to do things our way.
It's the logic of radicalization.
I think it's a huge mistake from a Zionist point of view.
I think it's a huge mistake from a Zionist point of view.
The Zionist's biggest problem is that they're perceived as being like cruel maniacs.
This isn't going to help.
I have to agree.
No, this is just going to piss people off.
Trent Sun, a member for three months.
Guys, it's free content for us.
Look at the views.
All right.
Thank you.
Toby, thanks for the $7.99 Australian.
John, if you met with anyone with remote viewing ability,
and can you confirm if it's real,
and do you have any stories about it?
In my experience, it was not real.
It was something that I was thinking about.
What is remote viewing?
It's being able to like move things with your mind
or implant ideas in other people with different ideas.
Yeah, like telekinesis ESP.
The CIA very much wanted it to be a thing
because they wanted to try to use it against the Soviets,
but it never amounted anything.
And they studied it for, since like from 1952 to 1975.
Was this part of MK Ultra?
Yes.
Awesome.
I love that shit.
So weird.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
More shed.
Thanks for the $5.99 Canadian dollars.
What do you think about Bangladesh's new government
that is not pro-India like the previous one?
Well, we see an influence war there between India and China.
Yes.
Interesting thing about the Bangladeshies.
I've always been very interested in Bangladesh
for a couple of reasons.
Just as background, three quarters of the country
is 10 feet above sea level or less.
And so they have these awful typhoons almost every year
and thousands of people get wiped out.
So why do they not go to higher ground?
There are among the world's most poisonous snakes
and man-eating wolves
that live in the higher ground.
Awesome.
What a challenge.
Do you remember like Bangladesh,
like I think this was about 30 years ago
when they were kind of like,
it was kind of identified as like ground zero for climate change.
Yes.
Because they're so low,
they're all going to be flooded away.
And at that point there was even a scheme
where Bangladesh's government was negotiating
with both India and Pakistan
to relocate their entire populations
either to one or the other.
And they were asking if it was
India and Pakistan were both saying
we might be willing to take your whatever,
300 million people or whatever it is.
But we want an extra vote at the UN
so we can outvote the other one,
Pakistan,
for outvoting India or India,
although I'm like there's 211 number of states.
But do you remember that?
It was like a bizarre,
like episode.
And I was kind of like,
you guys are just lived there with the man-eating wolves.
I had a teacher, Mrs. Palino,
in the 11th grade world cultures.
She had been a CIA officer,
which I didn't know until I became one
and she told me she was a CIA officer.
She retired and went back to Newcastle Pennsylvania
and taught high school.
But she used to say all the time
when we were studying the United Nations,
that every country in the world gets one vote,
except the Soviet Union, which gets two.
And that was true,
because Ukraine SSR had its own vote,
as if it were its own country,
for all those years.
And nobody could ever replace it.
What do you think?
So do you think Bangladesh,
which used to be East Pakistan,
might have a rapprochement with Pakistan,
thus altering the whole balance of power
in South Africa?
You know, enough time has passed,
where they haven't been in each other's hair.
I mean, we're talking about 55 years now.
So I wouldn't be surprised.
Relations with India are good.
Relations with Pakistan have become much better.
And Bangladesh has weathered a lot of real political upheaval
over the last 10 years,
with the operative word being weathered.
I think that they're in a much stronger political position now
than they were five years ago,
10 years ago,
and maybe they can start calling some shots.
Gringo, thanks for the five bucks.
Hey, Jonathan. Hope you're having a great day.
I wonder what you thought the best way to learn Arabic is?
Well, don't ask me. Ask John.
Also, what other languages are most prominent
in the Middle East these days to learn?
Yeah.
Well, Arabic, of course,
by far, is the most important.
Lewefranca.
You can learn, it is.
And you can learn any one of the, you know, 19 different dialects.
You might be useful.
Forci would most definitely be useful.
And forci is far, far easier to learn,
because it's an Indo-European language,
and Arabic is a Semitic language.
You know, it used to be so hard.
I made this recommendation just the other day.
Somebody asked me.
Rosetta Stone is outstanding.
Duolingo is even better.
You can do it on your phone.
But what you really need for a language as difficult as Arabic
is you need a human being with whom to converse.
And so think about the local community college.
You know, you can take an Arabic class for a couple hundred bucks
and have a human being teaching you
and a human being with whom you can have a conversation
every, every time that you go.
So take a look at Rosetta Stone.
Take a look at Duolingo.
But check out the community college.
Very cool.
John, thanks for the, sorry, super telpha.
Thanks for the 1999.
John, are you familiar with Waspital of Jordan?
Do you see another country having a leader like him?
Who ordered his assassination?
Was it the CIA or the King of Jordan?
Ted, can I make an impact without a platform in the States?
You know, Waspital, that's a,
Waspital was the prime minister of Jordan.
He died many, many years ago.
It was like in the 60s or the 70s to the best of my recollection.
He was charismatic.
You know, to take the truth,
I always believed it was the Palestinians that killed him.
There was this period from like 1968 to 1975.
Where the Palestinian,
the left wing Palestinian groups really believed
that they could take Jordan.
They could overthrow the King and take Jordan.
Officially, it was Black September that killed Waspital.
It was Black September that was actually fighting
on the steps of the palace to kill King Hussein too.
Literally on the steps of the palace.
And I think it says a lot that he was buried
in the royal cemetery despite the fact that he wasn't royal.
That's the level of respect that the royal family had for him.
Can you make an impact without a platform in the States?
Yes, just look at the Iranians and their AI Lego videos.
They're making a massive impact in the United States.
Yeah.
With the internet.
Absolutely.
You don't have to be here.
Sir Seth Lee, 499.
Thank you so much.
Ted, you know Aaron McGruder.
I used to.
And can you convince him to come out of retirement?
That I doubt.
He's like the avatar when the world needed him most.
He vanished.
Aaron McGruder was the creator of the comic strip and TV show Boondocks.
And in my opinion,
he suffered from having too much success
at too early a young age.
He was launched in syndication in his mid 20s with hundreds of newspapers
for most cartoonists.
That's something that even back in the heyday of print media
would take years to build up a list like that.
He got too much money, too much influence, too much power.
Things came too easy.
And I think he burned out.
And I don't know what he's up to nowadays.
But Aaron, if you're watching.
Call.
I'd love to get love to catch up.
I'd love to get some water waves.
Thanks for the five dollars.
Hey, John, following up.
Since another fan asked any plans to join.
Stop roast.
Hell yes on his podcast Steve stop.
He's world made me a lot.
I love it.
I would love to do that if you know him, please, please introduce us.
Tripp D.
This is a follow up to yesterday's bullshittery.
Thanks for the $499 Ted.
And John, if someone has access to your phone contacts and can turn on and off
On and off things on your phone, then there's malware on it factory reset. I can do that.
Okay, thanks. Thanks for everything up in the cloud and just do a factory reset.
Yeah, I do your phone runs faster after you do that. Do you have to physically reload all of your
apps one at a time? No. Yeah, no, they should just all come right back.
Okay, if you have cloud storage, make sure you have a backup before you do that.
I'm looking at Stavvy, how gas. He's right here in Baltimore.
There's got to be a way to get in touch with him. I'll reach out.
Truth, the dark truth, AI. Thanks for the five pounds. Hey guys, John, what do you think Greece and
Albania? What do you think will Greece and Albania be a second Israeli state? All these lunatics
buying properties in both countries? You know, this is a thing. The Israelis are buying up
Greek, Cypriot and Albanian real estate faster than anybody else in the world.
And I've mentioned a couple of times online or not online on the show.
I've been watching Athens real estate for a long time because I've been thinking about buying for
a long time. And the prices have doubled in less than 10 years. The prices have doubled since the
start of COVID. And it's all because of Israeli, Russian and Chinese real estate speculators.
But the Israelis aren't buying it just for investment purposes. The Israelis are buying property
just in case things turn to shit in Israel and they have to bug out. And that's especially true in
Cyprus. They're buying vast tracts of land in Cyprus, not just apartments like they are in Athens.
Seek the truth. If we ever ran for president, which party would we run for and who would your
VP? I really hate how the DNC screwed Bernie Sanders in my opinion is the reason why we are,
where we are. Oh, it's a big part of it. Well, obviously I would not be able to run. It's a
Republican. But I couldn't run as a Democrat either. That's my problem.
You know what? I think that the libertarian party is not a true libertarian party. I think it's
kind of a like a mainstream libertarian party. And I think that the libertarians and the greens
ought to join together. I'd be down for that. I would choose you as my feet. That would be in here.
Total Gen X ticket. That would be fine. Hey, guys, will you ever have
Medi Hassan on the show? Oh, absolutely. Why not? In fact, I've met him a number of times I've
been on his show. And I've got a friend who's very close to him. I could get his number.
Robbie, make it, make it so please. Okay. Thanks, Bill Marne there for the five Canadian dollars.
If universal taco happens, then what does it mean for GCC? Would Bahrain regime collapse in
Iran just become richer and military power more militarily powerful?
The United States will never ever permit the Bahraini government to collapse. Never.
We're joined at the hip with the Bahrainis. Bahrain is the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet.
And you know, Admiral William Crowe, who used to be the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
under Bill Clinton. Admiral Crowe came out to Bahrain when I was there. He had been the commander
of Sencom. So he lived in Bahrain for two years. I was his control officer. So I spent the whole
week with him. And I took his wife, carpet shopping and all kinds of stuff. That was a weird experience.
I took a carpet shopping like all day. And then I dropped her off at the ambassador's residence.
And I said, Mrs. Crowe, I'm going to be back in two hours. I'm going to go home, take a shower,
shave, put on my suit and come back for the dinner. So I go back, I go home, I shower, shave,
get dressed, I go back to the ambassador's residence. And I go in. And she says, hello, I'm
Shirley Crowe. And I said, yes, ma'am, I'm John Kuryaku. We spent the entire day today together.
And I did your negotiating for the carpets that you bought. And she says, of course you did.
And I was like, what the fuck just happened? I spent literally the entire
day with her. Anyway, Admiral Crowe said, and this is a quote that every Bahrainian knows,
and every Bahrainian quotes, and every American ambassador quotes, pound for pound,
Bahrain is the best friend to the United States in the world. And the Bahrainis love that. And
it's true, pound for pound, because Bahrain is the size and same population as Pittsburgh.
ounce rounds. Yeah, ounce rounds. So we will never, ever allow anything to happen to Bahrain to
upset the apple cart. I think also this kind of this question kind of suggests that Iran will
suddenly become richer and more militarily powerful. The longer than overthrowing the Bahrainian
rural family. But in the long run, Iran's going to come out of this much better off. But they're
going to have to go through some really dark times between now and then, you know, basically
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So questions left to over question. What do we think about the cyber attack on striker by
supposedly Iranian affiliated hacker group and what do you think about closed primaries as an
independent Kentucky? I can't vote in any primaries. I'm in Massey's district and would vote for
him if I was able to. I'm on team closed primaries. I don't think Republicans should be able to vote
in a democratic primary or vice versa but I understand the problem. I'm also for closed primaries
but in Virginia we don't have party registration. So you register as a voter and then when you walk
in to the voting building whatever it's called they say you want a democratic ballot or you want
a Republican ballot. And so if the for example when Obama was running for re-election what's the
fun and just voting for an uncontested Obama? I said give me the Republican ballot and I could
vote against the person I hate the most. Well you're kind of making my case for closed
our case for closed primaries there. So let's I do want to talk. Well let's take this question.
All Resna thanks for the five Canadian dollars. Did Reagan's campaign reach out to the Iranians
asking them to hold hostages to bash Carter in exchange for a better deal. That's what Gary
Six said looks like it. Gary Sixk was a was a Carter National Security Council
senior director. He became a very important very prominent professor at Columbia University
and Gary Sixk coined the term October surprise and Gary Sixk maintained that the that the Reagan
campaign through Bob or Bill rather Bill Casey who became CIA director. He was Reagan's campaign
manager. He was in touch with the Iranians asking the Iranians to not release the hostages
until after the election. Which they were only an hour or two after Reagan one hour. As soon as Reagan
put his hand in the air and took the oath of office the hostages were released and we're on a
a plane back home. It certainly looked like that and then of course there's also that incident
during 1968's campaign when Richard Nixon's campaign allegedly reached out to the north
of the Netherlands and said hey you know hang tight don't do don't sign a peace deal with Johnson
you'll get a better deal from us which if true was not true to the North Koreans yeah both cases
would be treason right I mean thanks for the 699 Andrew much appreciated. DeGick thanks for the
9199 is the mayor of New York's religion a problem in politics shouldn't be I don't think so
thanks for the high odds thanks for the 999 did you happen to see that the New York Post said that
an influencer stripper on Instagram is getting overwhelming messages from young soldiers scared
to deploy next week sad to see you I can't even begin to tell you how many young soldiers have
reached out to me over the last couple of weeks saying this is not what I signed up for actually it is
sorry I I referred one guy to Quaker House in North Carolina they they assist conscientious
objectors and we had a long conversation I said this is it's a tough decision but you got to
do what's in your heart I agree with that let the cards fall I have very little sympathy though John
because it's a fucking blank check use when you sign up with the military they can send you to any
fucking stupid war they want and kill you any stupid way they want don't do it like you know not
under this government spell I cut thanks for the dollar 99 okay so we're gonna have to leave I
leave the questions that are you made until tomorrow I promise you we will get to them early on
the show tomorrow morning and we're doing the Q&A show for the first time ever at 12 noon okay so
Ron DeSantis it's going to be Palm Beach International Ronald it'll be Donald J Trump International
Airport not Palm Beach anymore and I love this part the Trump Trump and his family have applied
for trademarks that are pending for merchandise that will be sold to and about and for the airport
clothing for pets and dogs bags watches jewelry umbrellas tie clips socks I don't know about stakes
but along with the airport lounges will also be licensed so there's gonna be massive grift going
on here will this stay like after Trump after the after the after Trumpism is no more well they
just go back will they change the name back that would like a sports stadium oh John is frozen
we will have to leave that there the timing is perfect if you have to be frozen you might as
well be frozen at the end of the show thanks everyone for tuning in oh John there you are hi
Zaya John Kuriyaku here okay I'm leaving I'm taking John out of there cookies on the phone please stay
tuned we will be coming up with TMI show with Ted Roller Manila Chan right now John Kuriyaku
will and I will be back for D program tomorrow at 9 a.m. and at 12 noon tomorrow so two hours of
D program first hours the regular show second hour at 12 noon is going to be Q&A thanks everyone
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