Israel’s Sinister Agenda to Use the U.S. Military to Defy Trump’s Plan for Peace With Clayton Morris

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One between the Super Bowl halftime show and Epstein and the Winter Olympics,

most Americans probably weren't aware that we are on the verge of a massive

regional war in the Middle East, if not a third world war. We are. The largest

movement of American military hardware is since 2003, the Iraq invasion, is now

in or steaming toward the Persian Gulf off Iran, preparatory to what could be the

aforementioned war. Now most people once again probably didn't know this, those

who did know it weren't for it. Recent polls on this question, are you for a

war with Iran? It's about one in five Americans support it. The rest are

probably asking, were we have a war with Iran? They said no idea. The president

did address it last night in a state of the Union in a press conference. And he

said in public what he basically says in private, Trump being one of those rare

public figures, who's pretty much the same behind closed doors as he is on

stage, says pretty much the same stuff. It's a little funnier in private, but

basically he's not a different guy. He's the same guy. And he's been saying the

same thing about Iran for a long time, really two things. One, Iran cannot have a

nuclear weapon. The cannot have a nuclear weapon. He says that again and again, he

really means it. That's not a talking point. It's complacent here. And two, I would

prefer a negotiated settlement. I'd prefer peace rather than war. And that's

obviously true. So to bottom line, where we are right now at the end of February

2026 on this looming Iran war, seems likely, have those aircraft carriers in

the Persian Gulf, planes ready, missiles ready, but it's not certain because the

president hasn't decided to do it. And you may not get that impression either

from watching the news. There is this sense that it's inevitable. And that's kind

of a sigh of actually designed to make you think there's nothing you can do

about it. No, Trump has not decided to do this. Again, seems likely all the

momentum is in that direction. But the president's the sole decider on this

question. He's the commander in chief. And he's showing no obvious signs of

enthusiasm. And why would he? There are a lot of reasons not to do this. The

first being the one just mentioned, which is most Americans don't want it. And

though it's not a direct democracy, it's a form of democracy. And you probably

shouldn't commit history changing acts without the support of your people. And

Trump feels that way. This is someone who pays very close attention to say TV

ratings. Why is that? Not just because he worked in TV, but because he thinks

they're a pretty good measure of what people are interested in. He cares about

what people think. And he's willing to listen to almost anybody. So that's a good

reason not to do it. The public's not behind you. Maybe you've got great

reasons to do it that they don't know about yet. But we haven't heard those. And

the president hasn't really explained them other than to say, Iran is bad.

Yes, that's been the official US position since 1979. Iran can have

nukes. That's always been the president's position. And we would like some kind

of settlement. The reason he's not eager to start this war is because he in

general is an eager to start wars. Hasn't been anyway. But because this would be

a particularly tough war. This is the largest build up since the Iraq war, but

Iran is not a rock. It's much, much, much bigger and much more technologically

advanced. Population of Iran is about 92 million. In 2003, almost exactly 23

years ago, when we rolled into Baghdad, the population of Iraq was 25 million. So

Iran is more than three times bigger. The landmass of Iran is multiple six

times bigger. It's huge. It's a huge, pretty advanced country compared to

Iraq. So that's a problem right there. This is a serious thing to start a war with

a real country. Are we in a position to do that? Well, there's some debate

about that. The US military performs in a remarkable way under certain

circumstances. But is the US military right now ready for a prolonged conflict

with a big country? Hmm, no, it turns out. And these are facts taken from open

source material that have been published. They're on the internet. You can

look it up. None of this is classified. This is all out there. But current

estimates suggest that the United States is so low on some munitions, partly

because we've used them in the defensive Israel already in the last 12 months.

But whatever the cause, the United States is so low on certain kinds of

munitions that where we to have even a brief but intense engagement with Iran,

our military would not be ready for like 10 years to fight a real war against

a peer or near peer adversary. So out the window would go any hope of defending

Taiwan, whether or not it's a good idea is kind of up to you to decide. But that

would not even be on the table because we wouldn't be able to. We would be much

weakened by this because we don't have the stockpiles and we don't have the

necessary industrial capacity to replace them quickly. So we are not in a position

to have a lengthy engagement and everyone at the Pentagon who's gaming us out

understands that. And again, this has been reported publicly though not necessarily

in the New York Times or the Washington Post, at least not on the front page.

But it's widely known. So it would be a tough war. We're not in a great place to fight

it right now. And the potential downsides are absolutely real.

Lots of things could happen. There are tens of thousands of Americans in the region,

of course, in uniform and out. They could be heard or killed. There's Israel,

our ally, which is probably a little more vulnerable than we pretended is to conventional

attacks from ballistic missiles. Do the math on how many missiles Iran is believed

to have versus how many anti ballistic missiles Israel has or we have to defend

Israel. They could be in trouble. And then there's a question of what happens to

Iran? Like does it fall apart? Does it disintegrate as a country? To be clear,

as if tonight there is no Israeli plan for what comes a day after we depose the

Iatola. Knock out the leadership of the country. What happens then?

You're going to put in the former king's son or something? No one believes that's

real. Will the country hang together with Polavi on the throne? Come on.

No one is thinking this through because the people pushing this clearly don't care

what happens after. The point is to take out Iran as a coherent country,

not to protect Israel, but in order to sweep Iran aside as a regional rival.

Once Iran is gone, there's no question as to who controls the Middle East.

It of course would be the only nuclear armed power in the Middle East, Israel. Period.

That's the reason. The problem is if the country were to disintegrate, the downstream

effects would be profound for everybody else. You would likely have refugee

crises. Where would they go? Well, Europe. They haven't enough refugees.

They might go right across the water to Qatar or UAE.

Oh, that could be a huge, huge problem.

So why would they push for this? Well, you have to think that the people

pushing through this are not stupid. They've thought through the consequences.

Let's say the United States attacks Iran. Maybe Iran just says you're absolutely

right. We're evil. We're rolling over. Everybody in charge is going to retire,

commit ritual suicide. We're going to turn it over to some Western Democrat

who brings in pro-choice politics and gay marriage, and we're cool.

We're going to join NATO at that point. That's great.

But what if Iran decides better to die on your feet than on your knees,

and just unleashes its conventional arsenal against American assets in the region,

against Israel, and critically against energy infrastructure in the Gulf?

What would happen then? Well, you would see a global depression.

If they did that, if they were successful in doing that, if the extraction

facilities and refineries and petrochemical plants in the Gulf were disabled,

how expensive would oil be per barrel? How much would gasoline cost?

What would steel go for? What would happen to liquefied natural gas,

which goes to both Europe and China? What would happen to Europe?

If you just disrupted the flow of LNG from the Gulf to Europe,

what would happen if you closed the streets of our moves?

The choke point at the end of the Persian Gulf.

I mean, wouldn't destroy the world forever, probably,

but it would tank the economy in the meantime for sure.

And who would suffer most? Well, let's see.

The Gulf states, Europe, and the United States.

It's kind of weird that anybody, especially an ally,

would push for a conflict that's almost guaranteed to hurt its so-called allies.

Why would you do that? You can tell me you love me,

but if you're encouraging me to commit suicide, you're probably lying.

It's possible that we should judge people's intentions by the effects of what they do,

not by their own description of their motive.

Is it possible that there is some hostility toward the United States,

the Gulf states, and Europe, from the people pushing this war?

Oh, there's a lot of hostility.

And part of it makes sense.

The Gulf states, the six Arab oil-producing states,

called the GCC in the region, are, along with Iran,

one of the main impediments to Israel's regional hegemony.

They are very rich.

They produce something that the rest of the world needs.

They're also very good at diplomacy, particularly Qatar.

They settle a lot of disputes internationally.

Positive themselves as the Switzerland of the Middle East,

and they've done a good job at it, actually.

And so they're a rival to Israel.

You hear on Fox News, they're Hamas supporters.

No, no, no, that's not their sin.

Their sin is existing as a powerful independent country

in potential rivalry with the regional hegemony of Israel.

So, shafting them would be a very good thing

from the Israeli perspective.

But what about the United States?

Israel's benefactor. It's closest ally.

Why would they want that?

Well, maybe if you're gaming this out a little bit,

you've decided we need a new superpower.

Public opinion in this country has swung against us so hard.

This bipartisan consensus that we're its closest ally

is disintegrating before our very eyes.

And let's be honest with ourselves, this is not going to continue forever.

We need another country to be aligned with.

Now, how many big countries are there to choose from?

It's got to be physically large, big population nuclear armed.

Not too many.

In fact, the big ones would be China in India.

But China, unfortunately, is a Han ethno state.

So you can't really turn its population against itself

in order to increase your own power.

It's not going to work. It's resistant to this, to manipulation.

And that leaves India.

And it was probably no coincidence

that the Prime Minister of India, Prime Minister Modi,

spoke to Kinesa today about the ancient ties between Israel and India.

Bottom line, yes, Israel is moving on from the United States.

At some point, probably sooner rather than later, to India.

And so weakening the United States in a war with Iran is not all bad.

In fact, it might be good.

Because then there's no rivalry at all in your region.

It's you, the only country with nuclear weapons,

and everybody else.

So you can kind of do whatever you want.

You don't have to worry about hostile neighbors.

You can expand the size of your territory, for example.

You can move your borders in all directions.

Who's going to stop you? No one.

So if your game is out for a minute,

the things that from an American perspective

seem horrifying, like real downsides,

holy smokes, we could tank the U.S. economy.

We could wreck the energy sector at least temporarily.

Some of our key Arab allies could be disabled by this.

Those all seem very bad from an American perspective.

Are they so bad from an Israeli perspective?

No, they're not, actually.

They may be the point, long term.

So where does this leave our president, President Trump?

Well, it leaves him where he began,

which is very resistant to start big new wars.

He, of course, ran for president,

both times, all three times,

on the promise that he wouldn't do that.

And he very famously in the 2016 campaign attacked Jeb Bush

because of his brother's invasion of Iraq.

That was idiotic, he said.

And, of course, he was right.

And 23 years later, we know exactly how right he was.

That war, which lasted 20 years, waged on behalf

of our ally Israel, didn't help the United States.

It helped to impoverish the United States,

and sink this country deeper into debt to weaken the dollar,

and destroy a generation of young men,

mostly from the flyover states,

the most decent and patriotic among us, destroyed.

So from an American perspective,

Iraq was a true disaster,

and Trump was the first big political candidate

to say that out loud.

He knows this, he always has.

So why would he even be considering a war with Iran?

Well, one way to think about it is,

the United States may not have a choice

about whether or not this war starts,

because, of course,

the government of Benjamin Netanyahu

could always act unilaterally,

preemptively against Iran,

and just do it.

Just strike Iran.

What would happen then?

Well, most likely, the Iranians would strike Israel,

and then potentially strike American assets in the Gulf,

and then potentially strike energy facilities in the Gulf.

And the United States would be,

by definition, drawn in.

So it's possible that the U.S. government,

while not anxious to go to war with Iran,

is trying to find a way to contain the behavior

of its closest ally, Israel.

Rather than sit back and wait for BB to do something

that we have to clean up,

that we're implicated in,

and then sucked into,

it's possible that the U.S. government is attempting to steer this

in a less destructive direction.

It's possible.

None of this, of course, is filtered down to people paying attention

because the few who are paying attention to this,

because all the noise has been about Iran's nuclear weapons.

They're on the verge of building a nuclear weapon any day now.

Now, if you're semi-awake,

you may remember that it was only about eight months ago,

back in June of last year,

during the short but hot 12-day war against Iran,

that the United States took out nuclear processing facilities

deep underground,

and then announced we have ended the Iranian nuclear threat.

And then without you noticing,

well, you were on summer vacation

or going to your kids' graduation

or bringing them back to school

or watching the Super Bowl halftime show

with your Joss Slack,

well, you were not tuned in.

All of a sudden, that threat out of nowhere re-emerged.

And there's Benjamin Netanyahu on television

or at the White House for a seventh time in a single year,

making the case that we're right on the verge of a nuclear holocaust.

Any day now,

the Iranian government will have a nuclear weapon.

And by the way, as noted,

the president does not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

That is one thing that takes very, very seriously.

And he said that to the Iranians.

And unfortunately,

it turns out whatever sides Iran,

the current Iranian government is very hard to deal with.

They're disorganized.

The head guy is 87 years old.

There's almost no communication,

directly between the governments.

The Supreme Leader in Iran

has never had a single phone call

with the president of the United States.

It's unclear exactly who's in charge.

There are all kinds of factions.

I mean, it's a nightmare.

So the only people who've really been out there

speaking in public about Iran's nuclear program,

basically are Benjamin Netanyahu,

Prime Minister of Israel,

and his many accolades and page shills in the United States.

You may have seen this tape before,

but in case you haven't as worth watching again,

because it reminds us that Benjamin Netanyahu

has been saying exactly the same thing about Iran.

They're about to have a nuclear weapon any minute.

Since at least 1996,

30 years.

Here it is.

Now they're well into the second stage.

And by next spring,

at most, by next summer,

at current enrichment rates,

they will have finished the medium enrichment

and move on to the final stage.

From there, it's only a few months,

possibly a few weeks,

before they get enough enriched uranium

for the first bomb.

You talked about a network of terror.

Are there any other nations that you would recommend

that the United States launch preemptive attacks upon

at this point?

No, the issue is not...

First of all, are there other nations

that are developing nuclear weapons, yes?

Should we launch any other preemptive attacks?

First, let me say what they are.

And then let me make a suggestion how to proceed.

Thank you.

The answer is categorically, yes.

The two nations that are lying competing with each other,

who will be the first to achieve nuclear weapons,

is Iraq and Iran.

And Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq

in the development of ballistic missile systems

that they hope will reach the eastern seaboard

of the United States within 15 years.

The most dangerous of these regimes is Iran.

That is, where a cruel despotism

to a fanatic militancy.

If this regime, or its despotic neighbor, Iraq,

were to acquire nuclear weapons,

this could presage catastrophic consequences,

not only for my country,

and not only for the Middle East,

but for all of mankind.

I believe that only the United States can lead

this vital international effort

to stop the nuclearization of terrorist states.

But the deadline for attaining this goal

is getting extremely close.

You can see why the government of Israel

is such contempt for the United States,

while they're totally happy to tank our economy,

stretch our military to its limit,

degrade us in public.

Why?

Because our leaders put up with this.

Some foreigners shows up in our capital

every year, for 30 years,

telling the same lies.

And everyone in there just nods along,

all 535.

Oh, really?

Iran's about to get a nuclear weapon.

I ran into a center the other day.

It was like, Iran's about to get a nuclear weapon.

I mean, they believe it.

How could you ever expect for people

who believe something that dumb?

Well, you couldn't, and they don't.

And by the way, it's not just the claim

that Iran is seconds away from a nuclear weapon

that they're recycling here.

It's maybe the oldest lie in American foreign policy

you heard in those clips, too,

which is we need to do this

because it's a despotic regime

that is oppressing its own people.

Now, this line is older than you may know.

And the reason it's so distressing,

it's so cynical,

is because it plays upon Americans' best quality,

which is decency.

Americans hate despotism.

They believe freedom is granted them

and all people by God.

And so a regime that oppresses its own people

is inherently illegitimate.

Americans are born believing that

and God willing, they always will believe that

because it's true.

So if you're trying to sell an illegitimate war,

wage for reasons that had nothing to do

with human rights at all,

you would use that line, wouldn't you?

Probably.

Well, American policy makers

have used that line,

and we pulled some,

do you want to hear some?

This is,

I'm going to get my glasses,

which I've dropped.

Excuse me.

We pulled this

and this actually made me laugh out loud.

So this goes back,

well, 61 years.

Here's Lyndon Johnson,

1965 in his speech at Johns Hopkins,

explaining that the war in Vietnam,

which was just getting intense then,

just three years from Tet,

from the height,

he said this,

tonight Americans and Asians

are dying for a world

where each people

may choose its own path to change.

So really we're doing this

for the Vietnamese people.

Okay, now.

Then Bush,

George W. Bush,

son of George H. W. Bush,

said this,

right before the Iraq war started,

and we're quoting,

we have no ambition in Iraq,

except to remove a threat

and restore control of that country

to its own people.

Right.

We did that for human rights reasons.

We just wanted democracy in Iraq.

Did that happen?

The Christian population was annihilated.

Hundreds of thousands of people died.

And political control was turned over

to the itoels in Iran.

No.

But he said it anyway,

and so did Dick Cheney,

by the way.

My belief he said

in the lead up to the Iraq war

is that we will be greeted as liberators.

The vast majority of Iraqis

have responded favorably to an effort

to rid the country of Saddamah's regime.

Well, someone who happened to be in Baghdad

in December of 2003,

the day we caught Saddamah to create,

I can attest to what you already know,

which is,

that's where the insurrection started.

But Barack Obama,

even,

three years after getting elected president,

having been thoroughly briefed

and how to lie,

in 2011 said this,

about the bombing of Libya,

and the murder of our sometime ally

in CIA asset,

Momar Qaddafi,

quote,

this is a plea for help from the Libyan people themselves.

They're desperate for it.

Regime change in Libya,

said Barack Obama,

would serve America's, quote,

broader goal of Libya

that belongs not to a dictator,

but to its people.

It said,

I mean, what can you do but laugh?

It's so absurd.

It's such an obvious lie.

It's like BB Netanyahu who's saying,

they're minutes away.

As long as people believe this,

or are so polite,

they pretend to believe it,

politicians will keep telling the same lies.

You have to make them pick a new lie.

Now, what's interesting is that the administration,

I think to its credit,

hasn't done a ton of this.

There's been, you know,

though, we feel bad for the

billion Iranians murdered in the streets of Tehran,

or some whatever,

who knows what the number is.

You can't believe any number connected to any conflict

in any country ever,

because everyone lies about them all the time.

But some number of Iranians protesting the Iranian government

apparently were killed by the government.

And we feel bad about that,

and we legitimately do feel bad about that.

Is that a good reason to topple the existing power structure

and just let the country devolve into whatever happens next?

Probably not.

And the administration hasn't really made that case,

or really any case,

other than they can't have nuclear weapons.

So you can at least feel satisfied

that they're not trying very hard to lie to you.

They're basically just saying,

looks like we could have a war.

Because everybody knows the only reason we're having this war

is because Israel wants it.

This is their last chance, they believe.

This presidency is the last presidency

where they're going to have unequivocal bipartisan support.

Period.

You can't primary every Thomas Massey,

and there's a whole army of him coming at some point

because everyone can see what's going on.

And you can shut down X,

and you can just shut down the internet.

You can be like Great Britain and arrest people

who protest Israel,

but attitudes are not going to revert to what they were five years ago.

Sorry, and they know this.

So this is their last chance.

What's so amazing is that Israel,

which at least is acting in what it perceives to be

its own national interest,

is joined by its shills in the United States, of course.

But really, it's only other ally in this

is the American news media,

whose job it is to tell you the truth,

and inform you it's what's happening,

to tell you, hey, wake up!

The world could be changing,

and it's going to affect you and your family.

That's their job.

And instead, they've been lowering you to sleep

with the same variety of transparent lies and propaganda.

And so just for fun,

we decided we would pick across section,

and not just from a liberal media,

or right-wing media, but from all media,

because it's not a left-right question.

Chuck Schumer is every bit as much in favor

of an invasion of Iran,

a regime change war in Iran,

as, I don't know,

pick a brain-dead Republican senator,

which is almost all of them.

They're all for it,

and so are all the Democrats.

You don't see Alexandria,

Casio Cortez making a real case against you,

like a pro forma case,

because she knows that all of her constituents hate it,

but is she really working to stop us, of course not?

Because they're all for it,

because they're paid to be for it,

and so are the media.

So here's a quick cross-section.

Now, it goes to that saying

that the Wall Street Journal,

owned by the Murdoch family,

has been by far the most egregious,

and the most stealthy,

because starting new regime change wars

on behalf of Israel

is like the whole reason to have the Wall Street Journal now, apparently.

But here's just a few headlines.

The diminishing risk of an Iran attack, quote,

two years ago, there was a strong possibility

the region would spiral out of control,

not anymore.

Really?

Oh, really?

What is the plan?

The day after we depose or kill

the 87-year-old Supreme Leader

of President Pazeskian?

What's the plan?

Do you have a plan?

No plan.

But don't worry.

It will not spiral out of control.

The Wall Street Journal assures you of that.

Here's another.

A fracture to run might not be so bad.

Well, yeah, it could spiral out of control

and break into different provinces,

and you know, it could become Libya,

or Syria, or Lebanon.

That's not so bad,

because you know why, quote,

its borders are artificial.

Oh, they're fake!

And a breakup would frustrate the interests of China,

Russia, and others.

Okay.

So our global rivals wouldn't like it,

therefore it's good, and quote,

its borders are artificial.

As compared to whose borders?

All borders are artificial.

God didn't draw them.

Sorry, my cuckabee.

They're drawn by people.

Artificial.

What?

No, it's a country.

Has been for a while.

And if you blow it up

into constituent parts and incited civil war,

they're going to be downstream effects of that.

Again, like refugee crises into Europe

and the Gulf States,

probably the United States too,

since it is the iron law of American foreign policy

that once you start bombing people,

you have to let all their angry kids into your country.

And that's how, by the way,

we got the Boston Marathon bombing

and many other acts of terror.

Thanks, Neocons.

And then there's this.

John Bolton still exists,

writing for the Wall Street Journal.

The Gaza ceasefire has diverted Western attention

from the real threat.

Tehran and its surrogates.

You'd really have to be John Bolton

to think that Tehran and its surrogates

are even on the top hundred issues

Americans are worried about at the moment.

They're not.

This is knowable.

It's pulled all the time by Gallup and others.

Tehran and its surrogates are

admittedly an issue of concern to Israel

and to its shills here.

But they're not.

Actually,

a problem for a continent-sized country

separated from the world by two great oceans.

Not a problem.

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for the New York Post.

Memo to President Trump.

Don't miss this historic moment

to strike Iran

and end its terror regime.

This historic moment.

Iran's rulers plainly fear US strikes.

Trump should prove them right.

Mr. President,

you're so strong and dangerous.

You have a chance to prove that.

They fear you.

Memo to self.

Never accept flattery uncritically

because it is deeply subversive.

Attacks are straightforward.

Flattery is reptilian.

Flattery is the true danger.

Oh, President Trump, you're so strong.

They're afraid of you.

Proof them right by killing them.

And then if Trump doesn't strike Iran now,

history will never forgive him.

If you don't have a war with Iran,

history will never forgive you.

It probably depends on who writes that history.

But hundreds of millions of Americans will forgive you.

They'll be grateful to you

for pulling us back

from the brink of something

we don't need and don't want.

And then last, of course,

Douglas Murray,

the eminent historian,

everyone respects Douglas Murray.

He's got a British accent.

He's not being paid to say this.

Don't worry.

Trump has a chance to end

Kameenie's reign of terror in Iran.

His reign of terror.

Because if there's one thing Douglas is concerned about,

it's human rights in Iran.

He's been there.

And now to the New York Times.

And this is interesting if you're a right-winger

because the New York Times is, of course,

like the most liberal publication in the world.

It's NPR on paper.

It's totally different from, say, Fox News.

It's like they're polls apart.

If nothing in common whatsoever.

Except on a few questions like immigration

and war and the basis of our economy,

which is finance and real estate,

the banks,

except on those issues,

there's some overlap.

Okay, there's vigorous consensus.

In other words,

except on the issues that actually matter,

that drive history,

that determine whether or not

your children thrive in this country or not,

on those issues,

they're one and the same.

And so here's a sexual,

put this one up on the screen,

because it's so amusing.

Here's Mr. Brett Stevens,

three different pieces.

He's written on this question that he's obviously a man

with a great deal of credibility and authority

on a regime change wars,

having advocated for all of them,

none of which has worked.

The case for striking Iran.

Can we let Iran get away with mass murder?

Israel had the courage to do what needed to be done.

The case for overthrowing Maduro,

the Syria opportunity,

we absolutely need to escalate in Iran,

and then my personal favorite from 2023,

20 years later,

quote, 20 years on,

I don't regret supporting the Iraq war.

Okay.

Should you be admitting that?

20 years later,

I am not ashamed to wear women's underwear.

Well, actually, you should be ashamed.

You should be embarrassed.

If you don't regret supporting the Iraq war,

if that support occasioned no soul-searching in you,

then you, my friend, have a spiritual problem.

All of us make mistakes.

All of us support dumb things

as someone who supported the Iraq war.

I can attest to that personally.

So the acid test is not do you make mistakes.

The acid test is do you admit that you did

and do you apologize?

But if you're refused to do either one of those things

and instead 20 years later,

it's still bragging about the greatest disaster

in modern American history,

as if it's a badge of honor,

hard to know if we have anything in common as people,

because that's contemptible,

and scary.

It's never occurred to you the Iraq war was a mistake.

Really, on what basis was it a success?

So if that's really your view,

maybe we shouldn't trust you

when you tell us that we have a moral obligation

to attack Iran.

Just throw on that out there.

So that's where the print media are.

But let's be honest,

it's not really the print media

who are driving this,

because this is a Republican administration,

and as everyone knows,

Republicans have one main news source.

And that's Fox News.

I have some familiarity with the product,

and I can say that even as Fox News's reach and power

and influence have diminished greatly,

mostly due to technological changes,

people go on the internet,

they don't pay for cable.

But as it has diminished,

it has not broken the stranglehold that Fox has

over Republicans in Washington.

They watch Fox, they want to go on Fox,

and so Fox has really driven this war,

and if it occurs, you can thank Fox,

more than any other media organization,

more than any other lobbyist,

more honestly than any government,

more than the government of Israel.

Fox News has pushed for this war.

Its owners personally have pushed for it personally,

and of course its employees on the channel have pushed for it.

With such aggression and unanimity

that as of tonight there is not a single on-air Fox personality

who is going to question going toward the wrong.

There are some who may have reservations.

There was one on a weekend show

who very bravely spoke up and said,

is this a good idea?

That was the last time this topic was discussed

on that weekend show.

Because the order has gone down to Fox employees

we are in favor of this war.

And that is very obvious if you watch it.

Now one of the main cheerleaders

for an invasion of Iraq

and every other invasion

and every other instance of shedding of human blood

just a killing in general

would of course be Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

Now if you don't watch Fox,

you may have no idea what he actually says when he goes on Fox,

which is all the time.

So we want to play you a short montage of Lindsey Graham

and watch as you watch this his eyes.

And you can see that he is maybe for the first time that day

feeling elevated and light and happy

but also tantalized.

You can almost watch his mouth fill with saliva.

Some people fill this way in strip bars,

others and bakeries.

Lindsey Graham is excited by killing.

And if you think that's cruel, watch this.

Change is coming to Iran.

It'll be the biggest change in the history of the Mid-East

to get rid of this Nazi regime.

Hit Iran.

They have wall fills out in the open.

They have the revolutionary guard headquarters

you can see from space.

Blow it off the map.

There's an opportunity to hit the Iran nuclear program

in a fashion I haven't seen in decades.

And I think it would be in the world's interest for us

to decimate the Iranian nuclear threat while we can.

Be all-in President Trump in helping Israel

eliminate the nuclear threat.

If we need to provide bombs to Israel,

provide bombs if we need to fly planes with Israel.

Do join operations.

So pray for our troops in harm's way.

They are risk associated with any operation.

They join the military to keep their country safe

and to make the world a better place.

And taking on the IOTO does both.

If I were you, Mr. President,

I would kill the leadership that are killing the people.

And to the IOTOists, you need to understand.

If you keep killing your people

or demanding a better life,

Donald J. Trump is going to kill you.

Now you can look at that and say,

you know, this guy's risking his soul talking like this.

This guy's wrong on the evidence.

This guy's clearly a buffoon with some kind of

psychosexual problems that were not qualified to diagnose

but that are totally evident.

But you should also keep in mind as you watch Lindsey Graham.

He's taken very seriously by his colleagues in the Senate,

not just the Republicans, but also the Democrats.

And he's taken very seriously by Republicans in Washington

more broadly.

Of course he is.

He's taken very seriously.

This has an effect.

And that effect could get us into,

you know, certainly the worst war in 23 years.

So the idea is to flood the zone, the information zone,

to make sure that no Republican in Washington,

here's anything but that.

And the proponents of this war are very intent on that.

They mean no effort to convince you.

It's a good idea.

They are staying up night and day,

convincing the decision makers.

It's a good idea.

And they're trying, by the way, to shout down

and threaten and defame and slander and exclude anybody

who has a contrary view, who might pipe up and say,

wait a second, we sure this is a good idea.

What would happen?

If the energy trade gets shut down in the Persian Gulf,

what would happen if Iran lobbed successfully,

lob some sort of armman into a U.S. aircraft carrier

and Americans died?

What would happen?

What would happen if Israel felt threatened enough

to use nuclear weapons against Iran,

which is a possibility despite what they tell you?

That's a possibility.

What would happen?

Once these things get going, you don't know where they wind up

and anyone who says he does know is lying, obviously.

So anyone who raises those questions must be called a Nazi

and an anti-Semite and you want to kill Jews.

No.

Don't want to kill anybody.

The game is to make sure that the only noise in the room

comes from Graham and people like Graham, right?

Until, of course, someone pushes play

and it's too late to stop it.

And at that point, we can all pretend we were never for this

or they just did it wrong or whatever.

We've seen this movie so many times.

You know exactly what's going to happen if it goes south.

And the truth is, it works because people are intimidated.

Donald Trump did his great credit,

listens to everybody, everybody.

And by the way, in his speeches,

when he starts rolling and ad-libbing

and all that, the weave, as he calls it, he'll often say,

I talked to the sky and he actually kind of listens to people.

But people around Donald Trump have been intimidated,

understandably, by the level of pure aggression,

aimed at anybody who raises totally reasonable points

about the downsides of a war with Iran.

So they haven't said anything.

So keep in mind, and by the way,

this is a message to anyone who knows Donald Trump,

has a good relationship with him, likes him, loves the United States.

Now it's the time to maybe call and say,

whoa, whoa, wait a second, have some concerns here.

Now is the time, right now,

because the decision has not yet been made.

But it's not just aggression, it's also lying.

So I'm going to play one last clip

before we go to Clayton Morris, who's spent many years in the US media

and has a, I think, more tactile sense of what's going on here

in information world.

But when one last clip, and this is from,

I think two days ago, and this is from a man at Fox,

a weekend show host called Mark Levin,

and really nobody has elevated his own visibility

to a greater extent or worked harder to get the United States

into a war with Iran than Mark Levin has.

And he's done it not through brilliant argument

and size of analysis, basically through screaming.

But as we get closer and closer and closer to the time

where this work could actually start,

Levin has decided to just make stuff up.

And the clip you're about to hear is from his podcast,

I believe, and you can check it two days ago.

And it is grounds for dismissal from Fox News,

immediate grounds for dismissal.

And it's also, at the very least,

grounds for questions to him, like, what are you doing?

What are you doing, saying something like this?

This is Mark Levin telling his listeners,

such as they are, that Iran has nuclear-tipped ICBMs

aimed at the United States. Watch this.

They slaughter a million of their own people

who fit meant retaining power.

That's not a government of a country.

Those are terrorists that control a country.

It is a police state that's slaughtering its own people

to stay in power so it can slaughter us.

It believes as the seventh century primitive barbarians

believed that they must destroy civilization.

They believe today that they must destroy the West.

Most prominently, the United States of America,

those nuclear ICBMs aren't aimed for Tel Aviv

or Jerusalem, they're aimed for New York

and Los Angeles and Chicago and everywhere in between

and around the United States of America.

The enemies of civilization.

If you wake up in a world where Mark Levin

is publicly identified with quote civilization,

you were an upside-down world.

Civilization begins with the acknowledgement

that human life is sacred,

that God created each person as an individual,

that identity politics is therefore wrong,

and that telling the truth matters

because truth is absolute, you may get it wrong,

but the idea that nothing is true

is a form of nihilism and that attitude

is the enemy of civilization.

And yet that's exactly what you just saw.

Iran does not have nuclear-tipped ICBMs.

And they're not aimed at the United States.

That is a lie.

It is a provable lie.

Now why is he saying that?

Not because he hopes to win an argument,

but because he hopes to whip his listeners

into such a frenzy of fear and rage

that they will support something that will hurt them.

This will hurt the United States

almost without question if it happens.

This is not good for you.

It's not good for our actual allies,

the energy-producing countries in the Middle East,

which are our actual allies.

Israel has no sense or ally in this.

And yet Mark Levin will not

and none of these people will address that debate.

Instead, they're just lying to scare people

into supporting something that will hurt them.

Mark Levin actually tweeted this.

And if you're old enough to remember the Iraq War,

this is going to make you laugh.

Iran producing ballistic missiles

with chemical and biological warheads

we mustn't delay any longer.

They have WMD!

Where did information come from?

Well, it came from the Free Press.

No, I beg your pardon.

It did not come from the Free Press.

Don't they probably repeated it?

It came from another aligned publication

in Washington.

Is there any evidence that?

No, of course, there's no evidence of that.

And I'd be willing to bet my house

that that lie originated in the

same place the original WMD lie originated

in 2002 for the Iraq War in Israel.

Of course!

Tell Americans, tell the Congress,

tell the White House

that the country we want you to spend your money

and your lives to overthrow

so we can

have a greater degree of control

or hegemony in a region that that country

is a threat to you because they have weapons of mass destruction.

That was a lie then, it's a lie now,

but they're saying it.

And so, if you followed Mark Levin's Twitter feed,

which I didn't tell today,

but it's an amazing thing, actually,

you'll see that he's given up all argument.

Any attempt to win anyone over

and instead repeating,

kill Camini.

Take out Camini.

Take out Camini every single day.

Now, what is this?

Well, it's really a kind of witchcraft, actually.

It's the idea that if you repeat something

enough that you can

will it into existence,

the words alone will make it real.

And by the way,

that works.

Unfortunately, that works.

If you repeat a lie enough,

it assumes substance.

God isn't fooled,

but people are.

And so, when you see somebody doing that,

saying something is totally untrue,

that contradicts the observations of your eyes and ears.

Like, I know that's not true.

And you see that person brush off the fact that it's not true

and continue to repeat it.

You know that that person is trying to mesmerize you,

and put you under whatever kind of spell this is.

And that person is scary.

And that right now,

ladies and gentlemen, is most of the American media

and most of the US Congress.

So, keep praying.

In the meantime,

Clayton Morris,

who once had a seat on

the fabled Fox News Morning Show,

joins us now for an update

of what he thinks is going on with the media.

Clayton Morris, thank you so much for doing this.

It was a dirty seat.

It was a dirty seat.

It was.

So, are you...

I mean, tell me if you think it's fair to say

that most, not all,

but most traditional left-right media

are aligned.

They've disagreements, of course, on the trans issue,

but on this issue,

whether or not we go to Warren Iran,

it seems like there's complete agreement.

And there always has been.

To me, there's no daylight at all

in both of these parties.

We call it a uniparty.

That term gets thrown around quite a bit,

this idea of the uniparty.

But they are in lockstep

on this issue,

as far as I see it.

Very few voices are speaking out about it.

If they do, they get pushed out.

I mean, look at Marjorie Taylor Green,

Matt Gaetz, you know, questioning why we're in Syria.

How dare you?

How dare you ask why?

Why are we in Syria?

I think we have two voices,

a congress senator Paul.

But there's very few.

There's very little daylight

in these parties

on this issue at all.

They desperately want war.

I was sitting here thinking

because you have the ideological push

from Mark Levan.

He doesn't really care about the money.

No,

it's the greater Israel project.

That's what his big push is.

For most of these people, it's probably about the money.

It's the massive military industrial complex.

You know, I got warned when I was on Fox, it warned me about much, but that was one of

the things tread carefully when I was criticizing the massive build up, the massive military

industrial complex, the amount of money that we're spending on this to go to war in Iran

or Libya or Iraq or Afghanistan or whatever other boogie man of the week that you have,

whether it's Russia, through Ukraine, weapons that wind up in Mexico, shut up, don't ask

those questions.

So we're all just supposed to sit back.

And then when you question it, why are we giving so much money to Israel?

Why do we give all of our money to these different places?

Shut up because these weapons are made in our backyard.

And so if you, as you know, it better than anybody, but the military industrial complex

sits in the neighborhoods of most members of Congress.

Yep.

Whether you drive to Colorado Springs or you drive to Wichita, Kansas, inevitably

there's going to be some arm of Northrop Grumman or Boeing or any name it, name it, honey.

Well, it doesn't really matter who are all receiving trillions of dollars now as part

of this massive boondoggle.

So heaven forbid that they would ever question the money that's flowing to the end of

the military industrial complex.

So all of them are bought and paid for and they're all part of this big cabal.

And I think you bring up a great point about they're all in lockstep because they want

us to be fighting here, like in this narrow structure, right?

Have some culture war, like, you know, whether it's funny stories on Fox News about HOAs

telling people to remove like Christian symbol, whatever it is, right?

You just, you fight in these like little, in this little bubble, you know, but the

real stories out here and they want us fighting in here.

So it looks like that they're really in odds with each other that AOC is really against

my Johnson, you know, they're, and instead they're all in agreement, they're all in agreement

and they're all in lockstep.

When I read very little on this because it's also misleading, but when I do read big

media outlets on this question and Epstein for that matter, but Iran this week, I really

get the feeling that the intel agencies have some hand.

I get the strong feeling, the overwhelming sense that some government intel agency had

a hand in shaping this coverage.

That's remarkable.

That is a remarkable assessment.

And you think I'm being paranoid track.

No, I think you'd definitely be on the right track.

And of course, up until a few years ago, you would have been labeled a conspiracy theorist,

right?

Wait a second.

The intel community has a hand in shaping our narratives, our coverage.

We only learned about it through the church committee.

By the way, one of the great great Americans, but go back to the JFK assassination, right?

And project Mockingbird before it ever became Operation Mockingbird and the infiltration

of reporters at the Washington Post and the wiretapping of reporters to find out where

information was coming.

That was sort of like the clandestine CIA operations then.

And it morphs into the late 1960s and 70s into Operation Mockingbird, where they were

installing members of the intelligence community in newsrooms, particularly CBS news, The New

York Times and others.

And then once that was exposed, it morphed into, well, now they're just on the payroll

of these networks.

You have Mike Pompeo.

They're not even hiding in the shadows anymore, like meeting you at the water cooler.

Like, hey, maybe you want to not cover that story tonight or maybe you ought to look at

this angle of that story tonight, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Now you just have like people like Mike Pompeo on the payroll of major networks or reporters

who are embedded inside the Pentagon who are just adjacent to people like Jennifer Griffin

who the other night literally on Fox News said, it's not a matter of if we go to war with

Iran.

It's a matter of when.

That's literally how she ended her toss back to that.

Did she really say that?

Yeah.

It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when that's not true, by the way.

I mean, just in point of fact, that's not true.

I do think we're likely to go to war with Iran.

I grieve that.

But in point of fact, Trump makes the decision and he hasn't made it.

So it's just a fact.

So if you're reporting that we're going to war, you're lying.

It does feel like they're trying to create this sense of inevitability.

I think her point was the military buildup is like you can't put that genie back in the

bottle at this point that there's so much of a military buildup.

We've moved so many expensive pieces of equipment to this region on not unlike the Gulf War.

In fact, I've talked to sources in Tel Aviv who told me they haven't seen this type

of buildup since the Gulf War.

So I think her point is, oh, well, you know what, Mr. President, maybe you just sort

of sit back and let other people deal with this.

We're going to build it up to such a degree where you just can't put this genie back in

the bottle.

And I wonder how much agency he has at this point to be able to tell.

We're not going.

We're not doing it.

Yeah.

We're not going to listen to what the Israeli government wants us to do and to launch this

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Well, what's interesting is that, excuse me, that kind of military buildup is kind of hard

to hide.

And it wasn't hidden.

It was taking place in public and anyone who was interested could read about it.

But I don't think most Americans that any day it was happening and they sort of wake

up and you have, you know, Venezuela taking out Maduro on January 3rd and then that moves

into Super Bowl and Winter Olympics and like people are just not really aware that this

buildup is taking place and you wake up on morning and holy smokes that the Gerald Ford

is there.

So we're on its way.

Isn't the media supposed to be telling us this is building?

Well, you can, if you talked, you know, members of the military and I do, I'm sure you do

as well.

And they were telling us, you know, in the weeks leading up to this that, wow, the Abraham

Lincoln is now on its, I think third deployment, they've been extended.

So they were supposed to come home.

This is like the longest they've ever been out 10 months, which is like unheard of.

So they now been extended for like a third time and they're supposed to come home and see

their spouses.

And sorry.

Yeah.

This has been extended because of what's about to happen.

So like all of this information is like readily available, but of course, there's no journalism

actually happening anymore.

And if there is, it's being paraded from whatever the intelligence state wants to be pushed

out into the mainstream media and people like Sean Hannity who sit there literally and

where a CIA lapel pin, I mean, look at the, look at it.

Just Google Sean Hannity CIA lapel pin on the news is wearing a CIA lapel pin.

I mean, so, you know, this, I just, I feel like sometimes Tucker, I wake up and I'm living

in this like weird, bizarre world because people are going about their business.

They're going about their day.

And then you and I live in this world where we're seeing all of these things happening and

it doesn't touch the American people necessarily, right?

They're going to go about their day.

The gas prices may go up.

Depends on what happens in the streets of Hormuz, etc.

Unless you're one of the families of the 50,000 Americans who are currently in the region

in whom Joe Biden said without a doubt, they're, you know, they will be, it's not a matter

of if it's a matter of when they are attacked.

So he's expecting fully for them to be cannon fodder.

So then these military families will have the loss of life.

But of course, that'll be insulated and bubble wrapped from most of the American people

anyway and they won't affect people's day to day lives.

We pick these fights where we're doing these regime change wars over there and there's

very little effect on the United States populace and the mainstream media tries to bury and

cover it or spin a narrative.

It's incredibly frustrating and to see the Mockingbird media like Fox News and others

just pushing for this, it is infuriating.

But it's not simply that they lie.

It's that they work to exclude and discredit people who tell the truth.

People who tell the truth are punished, I mean, this is like a principle in the Gospels.

The one guy who got tortured to death was the guy who was telling the truth, right?

So we shouldn't be surprised by it, but I am every single time.

I got a text today from, and I won't say this person's name, it's an editor at Barry

Weiss's Gatekeeper publication who writes me this, I'm the features editor of the Free

Press.

We have a feature coming out about how the podcast business has leaned into conspiracy

theories.

We'd love to include your voice.

Let me know.

I said, pretty funny.

I don't think that line of attack works anymore, does it?

And she didn't get back to me, but I love that the only people who are telling the truth

are attacked by the liars.

And that by the way, your audience, your Natalie's audience is way bigger than the Free

Press, way bigger than CBS News.

I mean, I do think that the people I'm accusing of lying have less of a grip on the American

public than ever before, so maybe it doesn't matter, but it isn't furiating.

Right.

We even, I think we even sell a t-shirt on our store that says conspiracy noir, you know?

Exactly.

And our pronouns are, our pronouns are, I told you so.

So I'm, you know, like, I'm fine, you know, I wear it as a badge of honor, it's fine,

whether it's COVID or what it was going on in Ukraine, the child trafficking operations,

whatever it is that we've been covering on our show, I've yet to have anyone come on

our show and say, you need to correct that mistake.

Oh, okay.

So, you know, conspiracy theories are just six months, six months, spoiler alerts, right,

from what's to come.

So I love leaning into conspiracy theories because no one else is doing the job.

I mean, just look at the Epstein story.

Where is the mainstream media?

They're not covering it at all, and not even not covering it, they're refusing to have

voices on their air who could actually provide real value, real source material, speaking

to sources today, actually, and who's just, who's recently been to Epstein Island.

And on Epstein Island, there's still papers, Jeffrey Epstein's papers scattered all over

his books, materials everywhere, just laying there, not gathered up by the FBI, not gathered

up and being investigated, but where is this information in the mainstream media?

Where are any deeper questions about Epstein's murder?

And all of the inconsistencies that have appeared that day at the prison.

Where are these, they're not in the mainstream media at all, and even like Fox News coverage

of Pambondi's hearing was mysteriously absent.

I don't know if you noticed that, but no.

Fox News loves to go wall-to-wall with, you know, whoever, whatever member of the cabinet

is going to be there, they love to go wall-to-wall coverage.

Let's check in now with Cash Patel, you know, he's testifying before Congress today about

what the FBI is doing, great, spend an hour, two hours, senators, members of, you know,

representatives asking questions, how judiciary committee, and otherwise, Pambondi coverage?

Shame on you.

If you tuned into Fox News to see like deep coverage of Pambondi being grilled over

the Epstein files, sorry, you weren't going to see it.

MSNBC carried it, fun non-mistake, and CNN carried it, but Fox News, like, why, why do

they, why do they not want to show Pambondi being questioned about the Epstein files?

Normally they be covering that wall-to-wall.

So there is a dereliction of duty happening in the mainstream media, and I know from sources

who have sent material to like news nation, the New York Times, and other major publications

and they've ignored it, they've ignored it, and won't publish it.

So why?

Anyway, there's a dereliction of duty in the mainstream media.

So I think it's a fair question.

Why?

In fact, it's the important question.

Obviously, Fox's audience is interested in Epstein, you know, the guy who partied with

Bill Gates and really was friends with Hillary Clinton, like why wouldn't they be interested,

of course, they're interested, but they're not getting the coverage from their network

of choice, but that's also true of New York Times readers.

So it's a left-right, once again, collusion on this cover-up, and it is a cover-up.

What explains that?

I've been wrestling with this a lot, and I'm, you know, is it because, in certain sources,

sources who've told me that it is because how this hits just about everyone, the major

power players.

I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene admitted that President Trump called her and asked her to

not vote for the, one of my, the dispatch discharge petition.

I always get the discharge petition, excuse me.

And of course, the Epstein Transparency Act and her words, quoting her, she said, President

told me that too many of my friends would be hurt.

And I think that's at the heart of it.

And I think the, there's a reason also, I think, that we haven't seen any of the financial

information yet.

So, you know, when you and I spoke a few years ago on the show, I talked about like Operation

Gladio and NATO, and there's a strategy that they have, which is, you know, the strategy

of tension that Colonel Towner Watkins, she's very eloquent on this point.

And it's a strategy to keep us in this chaos, right?

And it's also like a drip feed of information.

So we get sort of disparate pieces of emails, no financial information, no transactions

that connect point A to point B. We get this person said this, Peter Atea said, I

can't tell everyone about you, you know, you're my friend, but man, you're kind of dirty.

We get Russian, Russian models with Bill Gates emails.

We get, we get random pieces of pizza gate and all of these other things.

But do we get financial connections, financial transactions, which the DOJ is sitting on, by

the way?

Like, why don't we see any of that information?

And, you know, to your point with the New York Times or these different publications covering

this up, I, you know, I don't know, but they were, they were actively involved in this.

When you have Landon Thomas, for instance, right, whose name shows up as part of the Epstein

investigation, he was writing about the Epstein from the New York Times, financial reporter

writing about Epstein back during his first arrest.

And then you have Nelly Bulls, who is, of course, the partner of wife of Barry Weiss, who

gets assigned by the New York Times as a tech reporter to go and do a profile piece on

Jeffrey Epstein.

And it's in the files where she claims, my newsroom basically, you know, they told me it was,

or it later came out in her piece why she justified it that she could go and be with Epstein

that I'd be safe.

Like, so wait, the New York Times put you up to going to a known pedophile sex traffickers

house.

Like, what kind of newsroom?

I was like, yeah, you should, you, you girl, you just run along to a known sex trafficking

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Like, look, I covered technology for years.

Love it.

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from like the verge or the tech reporter for the Wall Street Journal would be assigned

to go do like a criminal profile piece like on financial crimes and sex trafficking or

what, it just wouldn't make any sense.

It's like Bob Woodward being chosen to cover watergate, you know, like as a, as a, as a

CIA asset or in tell a, you know, adjacent asset, it just doesn't make any sense.

And then when you learn that she's cozy with Epstein and then Barry Weiss, it's just

so bizarre as I know Nellie Bulls.

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Has she explained this?

She wrote a piece about how, I think I have it here actually, she wrote a piece.

Nelly Bulls, the journalist and the Epstein.

She published this on the 3rd of February actually.

Nelly Bulls, the journalist and the Epstein.

I had the chance to profile one of the darkest most interesting characters of our moment.

Why didn't I grab it?

Why didn't I grab it?

So she writes this whole piece about regularly using him as a source because he was business

adjacent.

So I just thought it'd be good to write, you know, we're going to write a profile piece

on this.

So the media, it's remarkable how incurious they are or intentionally, I don't believe

they're dumb.

They're not allowing, for instance, Congressman Massey to appear on television.

I know for a fact that he hasn't Fox News has not had him on and I think about a year

if I'm not mistaken.

The guy responsible along with Rokana for the Epstein Transparency Act, but Fox News won't

allow Congressman Massey to appear on their airways, like is there some sort of gatekeeping

going on and by Susie Wiles inside the White House to keep these people from getting

this message out on their favorite network?

I don't know.

I mean, keep in mind that Fox hates Trump, the owner's hate Trump, the Murdoch's hate

Trump, to the point where they wouldn't have him on.

So it's hard to believe it's because they support Trump, and can I just say something

because I know I'm going to be attacked if I don't say this.

I have no connection whatsoever to Nellie Bowles, you know, not an intimate at all.

I am just certainly related to her, so I just want to say that, but I'm not part of

any conspiracy at all, but I can just, not to be defensive, I can just, I can see,

oh, you didn't mention that, anyway.

But no, I agree.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's not relevant to my life in any way, but I just, I just feel

like I should say that in, just to be honest about it.

So, but Fox, it's, they're pushing so hard for the war.

If the war goes off, I think it's fair to say, I voted for Trump and campaign for Trump,

just saw Trump.

I really like Trump.

I think this, you know, it's, it's going to be hard for the, for the administration to

continue in its present form if this war doesn't go well.

So it's a huge risk for Trump.

So if you really like Trump, you would not be counseling him to do this.

You would not be only if you hated Trump, would you tell him to get involved in a regime

change war in Iran?

And second, if you, like, they're not protecting Trump by hiding Epstein.

So I feel like Fox is acting on behalf of someone else other than Trump.

That's, I mean, my assessment anyway.

Yeah.

Hmm.

Is it the moneyed interest?

Is it the globalist cultists who run everything?

I mean, I think that's right.

Yes.

It's whatever the superstructure above government is.

And that's very obvious in the Epstein emails and texts is that, you know, he's part

of some informal structure that's, I don't know, shorting the global financial crisis.

It knows that cutoff is going to be killed before Hillary Clinton does or whatever.

Like this guy is so plugged in.

He's, we're plugged in in the US center.

He's one of plugged in in the Secretary of State, probably more plugged in than the CIA

director.

So like, what is this?

What are we looking at here?

I think you're right.

And you know, this is where people say, oh, you're conspiracy theorists on redacted and

Tucker, whatever, but it really is true when you understand that there's this global

cultist network, pedophiles, Satanists who are, you know, responsible for the COVID-Kabal

and all of it, this supra government, whatever you want to call it at the heart of everything,

then you understand that like Trump is just a small piece of this and you understand

also that Epstein is just a small piece of this.

Maybe it's a window into it, in my opinion, and they're very scared.

It's like circling the wagons to kind of protect this globalist network.

However, it operates at many, many different levels.

You know, you get glimpses into it like with the Bilderberg group and you know, when

you see all these people at Davos telling us how they're going to control our lives in

the next few years with AI, you know, chips inserted into our brains and moving past information

warfare.

Now they're just going to have total control of us and in all of it.

So I think that Rupert Murdock and these guys, these oligarchs, these tech oligarchs who

are at the top, they're way more powerful than President Trump and they're really running

the show.

I mean, when you see that we're going to have, you know, massive bio, you know, biometric

scanning and 6G networks rolled out and digital IDs and CBDCs and all of this digital

tracking.

It's all about control.

Kevin ship, former CIA whistleblower told me, you know, 17 years at the CIA and he said,

he said, Clayton, you have to understand that when I got to the CIA, the, you know,

the number one goal at the CIA is if they can, if they know your thoughts, then they've

won.

And that's the number one goal of the intelligence state is for them to know your thoughts

and to be able to have that control.

And we're not there yet, but we're damn close.

And I think those are the, those are the dark forces that are really running all of it.

And I think Trump is a small piece of this, but I think those power players that run

all of these media networks and all of it, you know, the Jeff Bezos of the world and

all of this have far more control than President Trump does.

Do you sense that people are afraid?

As I was thinking about the story today, both about the looming war and about Epstein,

and how few people have stood up to say, wait a second, you know, what is this?

And I grew up in a country where people routinely stand up and say, hey, what is this?

And I don't see a lot of that at all.

And I'm wondering why and mass hypnosis is part of it.

Of course, people seem to be under a kind of spell.

Shock is another part of it, but fear does seem to play a role.

People seem afraid.

I think you're right.

Maybe I don't, I don't see a lot of this fear.

And I, you know, maybe I should be standing out there with like a sandwich board trying

to say it.

I mean, I see the people in our chat room who watch our live show who are saying, I'm terrified

of what's about to happen.

Where are the people who are denouncing this trying to get this, trying to stop it?

But of course, they're all being drowned out and the media is complicit in this.

They're a huge piece of this salesmanship of it.

And when you just watch like local news, like I'm in Colorado, you just like flip on the

local news for a few minutes to get maybe some, some weather updates, they'll do a little

quick update.

President Trump says this will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon, play a quick

sound bite of, I don't know, Mark Levin or Senator Lindsey Graham or somebody saying

that this is a threat.

And then, you know, that person goes off to work and thinks, yeah, I guess Iran is a threat.

I hope that doesn't happen.

So, you know, we got to stop them.

We got to do this.

And so I don't see a lot of the fear from just like average people going to the grocery

store.

And again, I think it comes back to, we are always so far removed from war in the United

States.

And that's how they've thrived off this.

This is how the military industrial complex has thrived is by having these wars over

there.

And we don't have to see it.

And it's very sanitized.

It's like getting a chicken breast from the grocery store.

You know, you don't have to see the butcher process.

You know, you just get this nice little thing and cellophane and sold to you on the

nightly news.

And then you go back to your, taking your daughters to dance class.

I wonder if people who do see it, who are paid to notice this stuff, you, for example,

and other podcasters, that's really where truth is being told right now.

I'm grateful to be in this business unexpectedly, because I feel like there are so many great

people in it.

But it really is the only place at this point, it'll change.

But as of right now, it's digital media, social media, and podcasts.

I mean, that's where people are telling the truth.

And there are lots of crazies too and lots of liars, but that's really where most of

the truth is being told.

And they continue to do this.

I mean, it feels like there has to be some kind of dramatic free speech crackdown because

what the government is doing at every level is too far from what the public wants.

The distance is, it's never perfect like the government's always doing stuff people

don't want.

But if every big thing the government is doing is, you know, an 80, 20 against issue with

the public, that's not sustainable.

You have to do something or you're going to have a kind of revolution, right?

So don't you have to shut down free speech?

I mean, that's exactly why we got rid of TikTok, right?

And that's, of course, you're going to see this consolidation of these independent voices

and others will pop up and whether or not they're as successful or not.

I mean, who knows at the end of the day.

But of course, you're going to have this consolidation in sale and censorship.

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And so you saw it during COVID and you saw, you know, Elon Musk still hasn't answered

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he will answer it.

He didn't answer.

I followed up with him.

He still hasn't answered the question.

But there was a backdoor access from the US government to X, formerly Twitter.

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You're already seeing it too with answers you get on AI and so many people are ditching

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Like I did a search either day and it pulled up like six different sources and Reuters.

Okay.

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What does you think?

My cut could be we went interview to my last week in Israel and I found his everything

about him totally disgraceful.

But since we did that, but I tried to let him talk and not be a jerk which is hard for

me.

Me too.

Press him.

Yeah.

I'm not a great person.

Don't pretend to be.

But I did want to get to the root answers on a couple of foundational questions like if

Israel is right to exist uniquely in the world, where is that right come from and to whom

does it apply and what are the boundaries of the state?

Those are basic questions.

And why aren't you representing the US government as the US ambassador?

After that interview, I think the guy, something broke inside him.

Have you ever been attacked after an interview?

That's usually a sign that something snapped in the person.

You got to tell you after your interview with Ted Cruz and then after your interview with

Mike Huckabee.

That should tell you something about your incredible interviewing skills where you're just

not really a basic question.

Well, you can only ask the question 30 times and not get an answer at some point.

This could be a five-hour interview for just how I'm going to ask the same question over

and over and over again.

And you're not going to answer the question, where does that right come from?

And then under bewilderment, finally, like an admission of truth at one point when he

says, yes, they should just take it all, Tucker.

And I just about fell out of my chair.

Natalie and I watched it together.

We both looked at each other.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

And of course, widely condemned across all of them at least after that comment that

sure Israel has the right to all of this land they should just take up, but Israel won't

because they're good.

They're good.

So they're not going to.

So we should just rest.

We should all sit back because they have no history of doing that at all and just allow

them to take the small sliver of land.

But you can only ask that question so many times before, you know, and you're not going

to get an answer and not going to get an extreme answer about it.

But should I was particularly?

Should this guy be right?

I mean, I disagree with him on the theology.

It's not Christianity from what I can tell at all.

He's a violence worshiper.

That right there is just qualifying as far as I'm concerned, far be it for me to give

theology lessons, but that does not look like Christianity to me.

But leaving that aside, the guy is the U.S.

Ambassador.

Works with the State Department.

He represents the president in a foreign country.

And he's not representing the U.S. government.

He's representing the country.

He's living in a foreign country.

He's not helping to get sex criminals in Israel, extradite to the United States.

He's meeting with a trader, Jonathan Pollard.

He's basically using his post to work out his weird cultish views.

How is that guy a U.S. diplomat?

I just never seen anything like that.

And I haven't either.

I lived in Portugal for five years.

And while I was there, Trump's ambassador, his original ambassador before the Biden era

ambassadors, got quite a bit of problems with the Portuguese government for basically telling

them to back off on China.

There were a couple of other issues, but it was coming from a place of American interest.

Right.

Exactly.

And it was quite a big deal, like in the Portuguese press, like how dare this ambassador,

how dare he tell us like what the Americans want, you know, this is Portugal, right?

So I almost would like a little bit of that, right?

Like, hey, I'm going to hold a press conference here in Tel Aviv.

And while we believe in our partnership with Israel, we also as Americans don't stand

for pedophiles, known pedophiles, like why is Israel safe haven for pedophiles?

And it is.

I mean, you could call up Barry Weiss and have her pull up the CBS archives where the CBS

did a deep dive on Israel's deep pedophile connections and where American pedophiles can

fully infine safe haven.

What there's this right of return, doesn't matter if you're a pedophile, doesn't matter

if you killed children or not, who cares?

So as an American ambassador to stand up there and hold a press conference and say, as

Americans, you know, we've got a great relationship with Israel, we will not stand for this country

harboring convicted pedophiles or pedophiles under indictment who are caught in a sting operation

back in the United States, like we want these people extradited back to the United States

to stand trial and to face a jury of their peers.

But we don't hear any of that.

We got hassled when we were there.

My producers got really hassled, our cameraman got really hassled by thugs in the Israeli

security services, I mean, unequivocally hassled outrageous.

And Huckabee didn't ask what happened.

He just immediately took the side of the foreign government against my producers.

So I mean, don't we as American taxpayers and American citizens have an expectation that

there's someone in our government who will take our side against a foreign government

or at least consider our position against their position.

I mean, shouldn't we expect that?

You would think we would expect that.

Just remind it's like, you see the movies, Hollywood movies where, you know, an American

is in another country and he finds safe haven by going to a U.S. Embassy, right?

Huckabee would turn you over immediately to Shin Bet.

I mean, you would have no safe haven to.

You would have no safe haven to the U.S. Embassy at all.

I mean, I would feel safe in a lot of other U.S. embassies around the world.

Like, oh, I'm kind of here.

I'm here.

Territory.

This is America, a little slice of America, like up on the walls, a picture of President

Trump.

There's the Secretary of State's picture.

There's an American flag.

I'm speaking English.

Like, I've been to a bunch of embassies, you know, in other parts of the world.

And I feel like, well, this is, yeah, this is America a little bit, a little slice of

it, you know?

I wouldn't feel that way there, no, given his loyalty.

I mean, even just back in the Fox days, you know, I mean, you know, Huckabee has always

been gracious to me.

Of course.

Nice.

In fact, but there was many times where he was like, I'm going to Israel again this week.

I'm going to Israel again this week.

And this was back when before he was, he had a show, but before he was running for President

and complaining about Trump, he's like, God, why the Fox puts Trump on all the air?

You know, I can't get, I can't get a word in edgewise.

They won't give me any air time.

He sucks up his words.

He's the Trump sucks up all the air in the room.

I can't get on the TV, you know, and all this stuff.

So he was like, I'm going to Israel again and come back and I brought you a gift, you

know?

And here's another, here's a Yamaha.

Like, oh, thanks.

And I'll add it to the Yamaha collection, you know, you, in my office now and here's the,

here's the jar.

This is right, you know, this is right from Tel Aviv, here's a, so I mean, he was, there

was a deep love, deep love there for many, many years.

Yeah.

I knew, I mean, I knew him well and I was aware of that and I don't care.

You go ahead and love Israel.

It doesn't bother me at all.

I've never been mad at Israel and I don't care if you love Israel.

But if you're the U.S. ambassador, you're supposed to take your country side against all

other countries.

I would think that be a prerequisite for citizenship, by the way, it doesn't seem to

be.

And it's, the whole thing is so humiliating and shameful that it gives us some insight

in what's happening with this Iran war.

So in a, in a normal country, you would just say to Israel, look, you don't exist except

for us.

We pay for everything.

We make everything possible for you to be eliminated without us.

So we're not going to war with Iran.

We're going to negotiate a settlement where they're not going to build nuclear weapons.

That's fine.

They've already said they won't.

They have a fought well against it.

Maybe you don't believe that.

That's okay too.

We can discuss this, but what we're not going to do is allow you to start the war unilaterally

and then suck us into it.

That's actually what's going on.

We're afraid that Israel will start a war unilaterally against our interests and no one

can tell them, no, like what the hell is going on?

Is there any other country that has this kind of control over the United States Congress

and administrations because I can't think of any, I can't think of any.

And you know, he wouldn't get this position if he was tough on Israel.

He wouldn't be in a position of flying in and being the U.S. ambassador if he was tough

on Israel or he was going to put them in their place and we're not going to, we're not

going to carry out another regime change war on your behalf.

Like look, we tried it in Libya, didn't work out so well, destabilized in Middle East.

We tried it in Iraq, didn't work out so well, destabilized in Middle East.

And I know you've been calling for this for decades for us to help you and to carry this

out in Iran, now we're not going to do it.

We can't be out of a job.

I just don't see how, when you have literally a White House chief of staff who is formerly

worked for Netanyahu, inside the White House, you don't choose an ambassador that the gatekeeping

does not allow for somebody who's critical of Israel to be the U.S. ambassador to Israel.

It's just not going to happen.

I mean, I think this is, we've gone to this place because nobody wants to hurt anybody's

feelings.

And the BB people have conflated skepticism of Israel's goals with anti-Semitism, which

is insane.

I mean, there are a lot of Jews who don't like BB and they have every good reason to

they're not anti-Semites.

No person is an anti-Semite for disliking the actions of the Israeli government or not

buying Zionism, whatever that is.

So people have been kind of, like they don't want to have that fight, so they've just sort

of let this fester.

And then there's the other factor, which is physical fear because Israel is so violent

and constantly bragging about murdering people and blowing up kids with pages or leveling

Gaza.

I mean, this is the most violent country in the world by far, per capita.

So there is a feeling that, like, if you criticize them too much, they could hurt you.