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2:02I was really happy to see Yiga back to what she looked like a couple of years ago and she was winning dominantly. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Calls are media. Hey everybody, Robert Evans here and I wanted to let you know this is a compilation episode. So every episode of the week that just happened is here in one convenient and with somewhat less ads package for you to listen to in a long stretch if you want. If you've been listening to the episodes every day this week, there's going to be nothing new here for you, but you can make your own decisions. Hello everyone and welcome to it could happen here. My name is Anna Elkurd and I'm a researcher and analyst of Arab and Palestinian politics. Today I want to talk about the recent announcement that Hamas agreed to a second phase of the Gaza ceasefire. So the board of peace and mediator countries announced July 30th last Thursday I'm recording on August 4th.

3:03That Hamas had agreed to a sort of road map in which they would relinquish some of their weapons. So this whole scenario has hinged on Hamas disarming even though in other conflicts when there have been two parties disarmament comes at later stages. But in this scenario, the board of peace and the director general Nikolay Maddenov has basically hinged the entire process on Hamas disarming first. And so in the recent announcement, which president Donald Trump basically celebrated on his social media calling it a historic agreement for the complete disarmament of Hamas. Hamas basically said that they had been in conversation with not only the mediators in their proposals, but with other Palestinian factions and had agreed to relinquish their weapons in a particular way. And so he said it was contingent and conditional on a permanent end to Israeli attacks and a full Israeli withdrawal from Gaza as well as recovery and reconstruction.

4:07And importantly, they basically said that no weapons would be handed over to Israel or to any non-Palestinian party. So what Hamas is saying is we're going to give up our weapons eventually if Israel also adheres to the guidelines of the ceasefire. So we're going to give up our link to the national committee, which is a governance structure made up of Palestinian technocrats. So since the national committee is supposed to govern Gaza eventually, or at least that's the intention of this of this committee, even though they haven't actually been allowed to do that. And here is Hamas is saying you want to claim that disarmament is the reason that the ceasefire and recovery and reconstruction can't proceed. Okay, so we'll disarm, but we'll only disarm to other Palestinians. And like I said, it's contingent on Israel also agreeing with drawing from Gaza, ceasing the continued attacks. Israeli officials have basically said that they have like severe worries about it and they're not interested.

5:11The national security minister, it's a Marvin Gavir, basically said that it's not acceptable to Israel. So you know, it's very much up in the air, but Hamas basically threw the ball in Israel's court with disenactment. It's also important to point out that throughout these past couple of months since the ceasefire was announced over a thousand Palestinians have been killed in the week that this announcement was made. Israel killed at least six in Gaza and wounded many others. And so all of that is going on and that's not even mentioning what's happening in the West Bank where things have really escalated in terms of both Israeli army and Israeli settler violence, which often of course goes hand in hand. This announcement might really amount to nothing here, especially if Israel doesn't comply. But I think it poses a bigger question around the board of peace and its design and its objectives. So that's basically what this episode is going to be about answering the question of whether the board's design who sits on it, who pays for seat, who answers to who actually makes a fair outcome for Palestinian structurally impossible regardless of this announcement or any other announcements or decisions that Palestinians may make.

6:25So just as a reminder to listeners, the board of peace was announced as part of President Trump's 20 point Gaza plan back in September 2025, 20 points to get Gaza back on track. I shouldn't make jokes here, but that's what it was called and it was launched in January 2026. Its stated purpose is to promote stability, restored dependable and lawful governance and secure enduring peace in conflict affected areas. So not only in Gaza at the start, the board of peace was announced around what was happening in Gaza, but eventually grew into a bigger idea and Gaza was framed as a template. So this board of peace is supposed to be a model for managing future conflicts globally. But as I've argued in the past, this really is not about conflict resolution. It's about conflict management and a very particular type of conflict management where you subdue conflict through repressive means rather than reconciliation or recovery or reverations or anything kind of long term.

7:29So I think it's important to maybe discuss at this point how the board of peace is structured. It's basically a three tier hierarchy with Gaza at the bottom. At the top, there's the founding executive board. This is chaired by President Trump. In fact, in the founding documents of the board of peace, he is named explicitly. It's not that the president of the United States, you know, will continue to chair the board of peace. No, it's specifically Donald Trump. So apparently he's going to be president for life here. That's the top decision making body. And then underneath that is the Gaza executive board, who's a lot of different interesting characters. I'll talk about them in a second. The Gaza executive board oversees implementation of what happens in Gaza. Far farther farther underneath that is the national community for the administration of Gaza, who are 15 unelected Palestinian technocrats approved by Palestinian factions. But you know, they are not of any particular party. They are civil servants.

8:29And they're supposed to actually administer Gaza day to day. Now the national committee reports to the director general of the Gaza executive board, who is Nicolay Maladinov, not to any Palestinian constituency or to the Palestinian Authority, for example, or any Palestinian body. Now the six page charter of the board of peace never actually mentions Gaza or human rights. And I don't think this is an oversight. You know, the board is designed as a template for managing future conflicts. It's not designed to uphold human rights. And I think even though, of course, these are problematic positions to take. I think the European reaction serves as a sort of legitimacy check here. When the board of peace and its mechanisms were supposed to be applied to Gaza, the EU attended the boards first meeting as an observer, for example, and a number of countries kind of floated the idea of joining. But then when the board of peace was expanded as an idea to become a template for future conflicts, for example, Ukraine, then, you know, the European Union and other other European actors basically cited serious doubts about compatibility with the UN.

9:37Charter and then France and the UK voice reservations when Putin, for example, was was invited to be on the board. So yeah, who is on the top tier board here? It's got people like Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, who holds a seat on the board of peace, despite being a party to a conflict that's literally ongoing. And it's the reason why the board of peace supposedly came into existence. And despite having an ICC arrest warrant for war crimes. So clearly, you know, one party to the conflict in this scenario in the Gaza case is elevated while the other is administered. Then there are a bunch of business figures. So CEO is venture capitalists. They sit alongside heads of state. So reconstruction is really framed as a business opportunity as much as it's framed as an issue of governance. There's not a single Palestinian in order to pay actually hold a seat anywhere in this hierarchy, even though the Palestinian Authority did actually want to join the board of peace and it sought full membership on it.

10:40All they got was basically a consolation prize, which was this coordination committee between the Palestinian Authority and the board with the Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Muhammad Mustafa basically representing the Palestinian Authority one on one to my light enough, which has been described as a type of compromise because the PA doesn't have a lot of work to do. And it's not a compromise because the PA doesn't actually have a seat by itself. There was much made about a $1 billion price tag for a permanent seat on the board. So people like Victor Orban and Vladimir Putin and Lukashenko basically were invited to participate in this way. And it's kind of a obviously a sham turning participation and, you know, quote unquote peace governance into a commodity for heads of state. And for Kushner, the president's son in law, who is inexplicably also involved in this at Davos in January, basically presented a master plan that projected $10 billion for Gaza's GDP by 2035.

11:40And he talked about new towers and industrial parks and all of this, of course, drawn up without consulting Palestinians living in Gaza. And Trump himself has described Gaza as a quote beautiful piece of property over and over. So to me, this is a shorthand for how the plan frames the conflict or wants to wants to convince people that this conflict is fundamentally about under development. Palestinians have grievances because they're poor rather than the occupation rather than the genocide. So, you know, poses a question, what does it mean for this peace architecture when the same people who oversee reconstruction also profit from it? Now, who is on the Gaza executive board that second tier? You can find the full roster online. It is important to note that they actually haven't met ever as a board. You know, some of these people have their names and their pictures on the website and this Gaza executive board has really not functioned except this kind of a legitimacy stamp on the board of pieces activities.

12:47But really is very indicative of what the board of pieces supposed to be and how they want to deal with Gaza here when you look at who has been invited, even if they've never met. So it's got golf diplomats, Turkish diplomats. It has an Egyptian intelligence chief. It has a bunch of Trump administration people, Kushner, Susan Wiles, Steve Woodcoff, and then finance and business interests, like I said, are very heavily represented here. So you have the CEO of Apollo, Mark Rowan, you have venture capitalist, Michael Eisenberg, and a number of other businessmen, many of them with high state Israel. There's only really two, let's say, peace process veterans on this board. There is the director general, not enough, who I've discussed in a previous episode, whose very problematic I'll talk about him in just a second. And then Tony Blair, Tony Blair also extremely problematic. He has a history of basically delivering the good Friday agreement in the Northern Ireland conflict, but it doesn't seem to be applying any of the lessons of those previous conflicts to the Middle East in any way.

13:50But the point here is that security finance and US political operatives clearly outweigh conflict resolution expertise on this executive board. So who is actually running this? Like I said, they've never actually met. Maybe some of them have been promised a bigger role in the future. I'm thinking particularly the business people here. But let's linger on Nikolai or Nikolai. I don't know how to pronounce his name, Ladinov, who is the director general here. I've talked about him before in a previous episode, but he's the former Bulgarian foreign minister under a government that was toppled by anti corruption protests. Since 2022, he was the head of an Emirati diplomatic academy, which championed the Abraham Accords, the so-called peace agreements between Israel and the UAE and Bahrain and a few others. And this is a framework that was disastrous. It's seen, especially by Palestinians as essentially cementing their exclusion from statehood. So this is the guy who's supposed to run the Gaza executive board and who has turned the peace process on its head by basically again, like I said at the beginning of the episode, conditioning the entire process on disarmament first.

15:00We have the rest of the Gaza executive board and then we have this center for civilian military control. So this is a center space in the south of Israel. It's supposed to oversee the ceasefire. But every ceasefire enforcement decision basically has no sway on Israel itself. Like there's no mechanism to actually hold Israel accountable. It has no independent authority. It coordinates with the White House. And in particular, the liaison to the White House is this man, Arya Lightstone, who was a senior advisor to a former US ambassador to Israel, who was extremely right wing. And there's been recent reporting, which I'll link in the show notes about how intensely hostile he is to Palestinians. So this is the guy who's supposed to oversee the ceasefire and report to the White House. So what are the consequences on the ground? As I said, more than a thousand Palestinians have been killed in Gaza since the ceasefire was announced. Over half of Gaza is now behind this quote unquote yellow line, which is Israeli controlled territory, humanitarian and agricultural access is restricted or prohibited in that area.

16:04So Gaza is more and more squeezed. The aid that was supposed to reach 600 trucks a day has never reached that promised 600 trucks. And much of what enters is basically private sector goods that sold for profit with the Israelis also getting like a coordination fee on each truck. Now Hamas dissolved its emergency committee in July 2026 before they announced that they had accepted the mediators proposals about disarmament. They dissolved this emergency committee and said they were handing authority over to the national committee. But the board basically was uninterested in this move. They said that they were guided by actions not promises. And it really points to the fact that these kind of procedural concessions that Hamas is attempting to make don't really fix the structural design flaws. I think it's also important to point out here that even though on paper, Hamas has given up its civilian government on the ground like that doesn't actually change much. It's still involved in security and policing and bureaucracy. And what they dissolved is this civilian cabinet body that had run Gaza since October 2023.

17:10And it's a very specific administrative organ and it's not all of Hamas's governing capacity. So it was kind of again a way of like throwing the ball in Israel's court and claiming that we are dissolving the committee. We are making these concessions, but they're being very strategic about this. And in the same announcement, when they dissolved the emergency committee, they basically said that their technical and professional staff would remain in their posts. And it hasn't relinquished control over the civil service and security bureaucracy. So a few months ago, much was made about Hamas's strategy and whether there were going to be shifts in that strategy, because there was an internal election in Hamas. That basically cemented the divide between a kind of more hard line camp and a more pragmatist camp and the more hard line camp won. So between Khaled Mishal, who was supposedly more pragmatist and arguing for political accommodation and Khalil Hayah, who demanded kind of more confrontation, the second guy won.

18:14And so there was a lot of speculation back in February that that meant if the hard line is one that this is going to impact disarmament. And that means Hamas will never disarm and would never actually acquiesce to what was being demanded of them. But in the last couple of weeks, months, you can see that Hamas's strategy is much more, let's say, nuanced and attempting to kind of buy time with the United States and with the international community, while still saying, okay, we're going to make concessions. This is not to imply that the victory of the kind of more hard line camp isn't going to impact Hamas's strategy in the future. They are much more Gaza rooted and a more pro-Iran faction. Obviously, these are internal shifts between them, but we'll see how that plays out in the near future. But again, I think we go back to the idea of how the board of peace is designed and whether the flaws and its design and the dangerous precedent that sets for not only,

19:21quote unquote, you know, conflict resolution in Gaza, but conflict resolution in every other arena of conflict here, where in this scenario, there isn't neutral mediation, there isn't buy-in from all parties. One side is completely missing from the board. One side is administered. It really poses the question of whether any kind of political movement, any concessions, anything that can be mediated and agreed upon actually impacts how the board is going to function. How much had the who was speaking at a Carnegie Endowment roundtable back in April, he is a Gaza journalist. I think put it really well when he said that quote, Gaza is no longer just a unique, extraordinary case of human sabbadry. It is a canary in a coal mine. What starts there does not end there. And I think I want to end on that note, a framing Gaza as a canary in the coal mine because the board of peace is this model that combines billionaires, profiteering, and kind of the worst actors in the world in terms of dictators and those who are invested in a more powerful way.

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25:42Hello and welcome to Ica-Dap in here. I'm Andrew Sage, also Andrewsum on YouTube. Join again by... Neil Wogh! ...to discuss the infamous split among the anarchists over World War I and all things. So just to be clear, the common anarchist stance prior to the war was fairly straightforward. It was a stance of internationalist worker solidarity against imperialist wars, a solidarity that transcended borders and nationalities, recognizing that ordinary people had more in common with one another than with the ruling classes of their own countries. Such wars were never fought in the interests of workers, but in the interests of states, empires, dynasties and capitalist. If war came, the task of revolutionaries was not to rally behind their own governments, but to oppose the conflict and preserve international worker-class solidarity. However, the Great War would strain the internationalist cause, force and splits and theoretical developments or into the ensuing debates personified in the disagreement between Erich Romelletester and Peter Kropotkin, as well as many others,

26:52who clashed intellectually over the nature of war, history, national struggle and revolutionary change. The First World War emerged from decades of imperial rivalry, colonial competition, military expansion and competing alliance systems among Europe's great powers. The assassination of Archduke Franz Fudnan in Sarajevo on 28th of June 1914 served as the immediate catalyst, but it merely ignited tensions that have been built in for years. Within weeks, original dispute between Austria-Hungary and Serbia escalated into a continental and eventually global conflict. On one side stood the central powers led by Germany and Austria-Hungary, later joined by the Ottoman Empire and Bulgaria, and opposing them with the Allied powers, initially consistent of France, Russia and Britain, with countries such as Italy, Romania, Japan and eventually the United States entering the war on the Allied side as the conflict expanded.

27:54Attitudes toward the First World War across Europe were deeply divided and often changed dramatically in the open and reeks of the conflict. A powerful wave of patriotic enthusiasm swept through many cities, with contest people of volunteering for military service under the belief that the war would be short, necessary or even glorious. Governments, newspapers, churches and much of the political establishment promoted national unity and portrayed the conflict as a defensive struggle against foreign aggression. For socialists, trade unionists, religious pacifists and most relevantly anarchists, the stance was deeply skeptical or openly oppositional to the war. As it appeared to be a catastrophic clash between rival empires in which ordinary people would bear the costs while elites pursued their geopolitical ambitions. However, one of the attitudes that flared up as a result of the war, even amongst some anarchists and socialists, was anti-Juman sentiment, manifest in Kropotkin's open letter in the anarchist newspaper Freedom.

28:59This open letter would spark the ensuing debate between Kropotkin and Malatesta. As documented by historian Matthew S. Adam in anarchism in the First World War, Kropotkin wrote, I consider that the duty of everyone who cherishes the idea of human progress is to crush the invasion of the Germans into Western Europe. Since 1871, Germany has become a standing menace to European progress, or will live under the menace of certain invasion. More than that, Germany was the chief support and protection of reaction, end quote. For many anarchists and even Leon Trotsky, this seemed a clear break from Kropotkin's anarchism, which would be an opposition to alignment with nation-state-based struggles. However, as noted by historian George Woodcock in Pizza Kropotkin from Prince to Rebel, quote, anti-Juman sentiment was probably an influence on Kropotkin long before this point, as it was a current in Russian revolutionary movements due to the German rule by the Romanov dynasty.

29:59And perhaps also because his fellow Russian anarchist Mikhail Bakunin had an infamous rivalry with the German Karl Marx. End quote. Though of course, this is speculation. Kropotkin and Malatesta were both in Britain when they exchanged letters to police. Malatesta wrote in his article, anarchists have forgotten their principles, that the only war with fighting was one of liberation, and there was no siding with national agglomerations. He said, quote, Now Kropotkin had previously argued that modern wars were fundamentally driven by capitalist competition for markets, resources and opportunities to exploit less industrialized nations.

31:10He pointed to the imperial conquests and colonial conflicts of his time as evidence that financiers and economic interests rather than ordinary people were the true beneficiaries of war. And while he saw capitalism as the primary engine of modern militarism, he also condemned the state as the political institution that organized and carried out these conflicts. So it was order for Kropotkin to seemingly come out the contrary of his previous positions, and take one state side over another when he had seen through such sides before. But of course, people and their motivations are more complex. Kropotkin had sympathy for France and hostility toward Germany. He saw France as the heir to the revolutionary tradition of 1789 and the Paris commune, and he saw Germany as the embodiment of militarism and authoritarianism. He believed the war was a poor moment for social revolution and fear that a German victory would usher in decades of political reaction, wiping out the hard-worn freedoms that had been achieved in countries like Britain and France.

32:23His support for the Allies was rooted in his broader view of history, that social progress was never guaranteed and could always be reversed. That periods of freedom and cooperation collapsed into authoritarianism. He also believed that national liberation struggles were a space ripe for anarchist social and radicalization, and that in times of war, an anti-militarist general strike within the targeted nation would simply gift the country to its invaders, and that anti-militarists advocating such action were thus siding with the invaders and making social revolution more difficult to carry out in the future. This is for me a somewhat compelling argument. I feel this way about current struggle. You know, while the worker has no friend in the states of the world, and I don't think it should be framed as a matter of campism, the way we see red and rampant today, it is undeniable that there are some victories and defeats that will be more or less preferable to the viability of the struggle long-term. I am rooted against an Israeli victory anywhere, and while I reserve my right to criticize the politics, ideologies, and other actions of the groups carrying out that resistance, it remains true that the defeat of their oppressors can open up the space for further struggles. If it was that anarchists were arguing and acting solely for anti-militarism in the targets of the war, I think it's a very important thing.

33:53If you know some of the anti-militarist countries, then I would be fully with Cropotkin, you know, I would get where he's coming from, we would indeed have a problem. But I think he mischaracterized the anarchist position, or perhaps did not give them enough credit. As for the anarchist's primary responsibility for anti-militarist ends, is in agitating within the invader countries themselves to disrupt the militarism within the threatening nations to the bitter end. anything less would be an incomplete and flasid anti-militarous struggle. Kropotkin addresses this in the manifesto of the 16, which will get too shortly, and yet with the context of hindsight, I share Malatester's criticism of the pitfalls of lesser evilism as he kind of predicted World War II. Adam wrote of Malatester's position, quote, German victory would certainly mean triumph of militarism, but the triumph of the allies would result in much the same, both guaranteed the victory of the state principle, with stitism delivered in both cases and the tensions that caused the war to be unresolved.

34:58Malatester perspaciously warned that with both sides exhausted, some kind of peace will be patched up, leaving all questions open, thus preparing for a new war more murderous than the present. End quote. In 1915, Malatester, along with Emma Goldman, Alexander Boothman and 32 other secretaries, co-signed a manifesto titled, The Anarchist, International and the War. Likewise known as the International Anarchist Manifesto on the War. Manifesto of the 35 and anti-war manifesto. In this text, the Anarchists call out the ridiculous notion that any side of this clascious civilizations had claimed to righteousness, freedom or civilization. Quote, in the current conflict, the governments in Berlin and Vienna have justified themselves by producing documents every bit as authentic as those produced by the governments in Paris,

36:02London and Petrograd. It is for whoever on each side who will produce the most unchallengeable, most telling documentation to prove their bona fide and portray themselves as the unblemished defender of the right and of freedom, the champion of civilization. Civilization? Who stands for that at the moment? Is it the German state with its redoubtable militarism so powerful that it has stifled every vestige of rebellion or the Russian state whose only methods of persuasion are the note, the gibbet and Siberia? Or the French state? With its bribi, its bloody conquests in Tonkin, Marigascar, Morocco and forceful conscription of black troops. The France whose prisons have housed for years past, comrades whose only crime was to have written and spoken out against the war? Or England, as she exploits, divides, staves and oppresses the peoples of her huge colonial empire? No. None of the bledirons has any right to lay claim to civilizatia, just as none of them is entitled to claim legitimate self-defense. The truth

37:06is that the root of wars of the war currently blay in the plains of Europe, just like all the ones that went before it, is located exclusively in the existence of the state, which is the political form of privilege. The state is born of military might, it has grown through recourse to military might, and logically it is upon military might that it must rely if it is to retain its own impotence. Whatever the form it may assume, the state is merely a pressure organized for the benefit of a privileged minority. The present conflict offers a striking illustration of this. All forms of the state are embroiled into present war. Absolutism is represented by Russia. Absolutism, it's a yeet of a parliamentarism, and by Germany. A state ruled over very different peoples by Austria. Constitutional democracy by England. At the democratic republican system, by France. End quote. Malta said reject to the idea that anarchists should support one state over another because

38:07it was supposedly the lesser evil. Doenso, he argued, placed the struggles of some workers above those of others, and abandoned international working class solidarity. While he accepted that anti-colonial wars and social revolutions could be justified, he maintained that anarchists should oppose wars between rival capitalist and imperialist states, refusing to become complicit in their violence and exploitation. Later, in the brief manifesto, quote. No matter where they may find themselves, the anarchist's role in the current tragedy is to carry on proclaiming that there is but one war of liberation. The one wage in every country by the oppressed against the oppressor, by the exploited against the exploiter. Our task is to summon the slaves to revolt against their masters. Anarchist propaganda and anarchist action should set about doggedly undermining and breaking up the various states, cultivating the spirit of rebellion, and acting as midwife to the discontent in the peoples and in the

39:09armies. End quote. Going on to describe how anarchists might convince the soldiers, the factory workers, the peasants, the outcasts, the women and the court, capitalize upon every stirring of rebellion, every discontent in order to ferment insurrection, to organize the revolution, to which we look for the end enough all of society's inequities. End quote. Powerful words. And indeed in lying with what anarchists had long proclaimed. But Cropotkin and Cropotkin was not alone, mind you. He's a good different position on the war. He had been 14 allies published in 1916, the manifesto of the 16 as a reply. It was not 16 of them who signed that manifesto. It was 15. It just got called the manifesto of the 16 because the home address of one of the contributors was mistaken for another contributor. Incredible stuff. Yeah, and so that's what I was known today. But it's like he was living in some town in

40:14Algeria, I believe, and they thought the name of the town was a blue sun's name. Oh, like a lot. Publishing mistakes, a tale is all this time. In the manifesto of the 16 Cropotkin and the other signatories reaffirmed their opposition to militarism and wars of conquest, but argued that peace could not simply be declared while Germany continues in vision and expansion. They contended that German workers have failed to resist their own governments imperial ambitions, leaving no meaningful internal opposition to militarism. Although they maintain their commitment to internationalism and the eventual abolition of borders, they concluded that the defeat of German militarism was a necessary precondition for a just and lasting peace. Believe it would ultimately benefit both the German people and the cause of human liberation. So I get where Cropotkin is coming from too, as I see parallels to the situation today vis-à-vis American imperialism and the flawed actors that

41:16resist it. Even though I generally share Malatesta sentiment and Malatesta was ultimately correct in his assessment that maintaining a consistent stance is necessary for the clarity of the movement, and also that this war's outcome would be nothing but a precursor to the further war and would not advance the class struggle, let in fact worse in its conditions. What I'd be in said, I think there's room for a more sympathetic abresil of Cropotkin's position. As for responses and just the overall outcome of this rift, for one, the Bolshevik Party had something to see. Let in condemn the supporters of WWI as anarcho-shovanists, Stalin and Trotsky dismissed Cropotkin's pro-war stance as evidence of anarchism's failure, despite the fact that the majority of the anarchist movement remained opposed to the Great War. Malatesta responded to the manifesto of the 16th his article Pro-government anarchists, accused its signatories of abandoning anarchist principles by siding states in wartime. He also

42:21pointed out that in the name of defeated German militarism, they had instead strengthened in militarism, authoritarianism, and nationalism across Europe, including in the countries they were siding with the government up. Alexander Bulkmann, echoing this criticism, argued that Cropotkin had wrongly treated nations as if they were their governments. When in reality, the war was being driven by ruling elites, not ordinary people. Malatesta maintained the position that anarchist should capitalise on the imperialist war for class war, by encouraging workers to resist their own governments and revive genuine international solidarity. Other wartime repression made revolutionary activity extremely difficult. He believed the crisis created new opportunities for insurrection, rather than justification for support in any state. The anarchist movement emerged from the other side of the Great War fragmented. Some of its adherents forever stained by their inconsistency of principle.

43:33The war forced anarchists to reconsider strategy and revolutionary tactics, and, alongside the economic devastation and political instability unleashed, helped create conditions of fueled revolutionary upheavals across Europe, most notably the Russian Revolution and the wave of labour and rest that followed the war. Though the revolution was initially carried out by a diversity of forces, the Bolsheviks claimed it, and with the semen success of the Marxist model in Russia, it appeared anarchism would be under down to it. Though disillusionment with that model would follow, and as many anarchists have highlighted, the metrics of success between the respective movements were in many ways different. It wasn't all bad news coming off of the war. The collapse of old regimes inspired experiments in workers' self-governance, such as the German Revolution of 1918 and the Bavarian Council Republic, where anarchists like Gustav Landauro and Erich Mussem sought to build a federation of workers' councils rather than

44:34a new state. Similar anti-authoritarian currents appeared in the Kronstadt rebellion of 1921, where rebels called for free Soviets independent of Bolshevik control. Despite the growing dominance of state socialism, anarchist ideas continued to shape revolutionary struggles in the aftermath of the Great War. Though the war marked a shift in the movement that some would argue anarchism has never fully recovered from, anarchism has persisted, continues to reach people worldwide, and has the potential still to intercede in the rieflucity of struggles and pleases today. What is needed is a clarity and consistency of principles and analyses across contexts that can encourage initiative and responsibility, and solidarity and revolutionary achievement. It's easy, I think, to reduce this story to Kropotkin standing alone. Be tray in anarchism. While ultimately I end up aligning more with Malatastia's position than Kropotkin's, I do think that Kropotkin desoves a bit more credit

45:40than he has sometimes been afforded in retrospect. While his prejudices played a role, he did seem to genuinely believe that German militarism posed a unique threat to freedom that British, French and Russian powers did not, whether he was right is another question, but I think he was still coming from an anarchist place. Colorless he may have been by his anti-German prejudices. I think the whole incident revealed the liveliness of the anarchist movement, as one that was constantly questioning and adapting and conflicting and refining its ideas. Something that I hope that we will be willing to carry on today. But what were your thoughts on this bit of early 20th century drama elit? Yeah, I mean, I think in a lot of ways, this is the anarchist version of a debate that played out throughout the entire socialist movement and effectively ended up destroying it in the sense that,

46:41you know, the logic that Kropotkin is operating from to some extent makes sense, but it's also the logic that was taken by every single individual side in the conflict, where the German Social Democratic Party ends up supporting the war because they think that if they don't, they're going to be annihilated by the reactionary forces of the Tsar, but then the French think they're going to be destroyed by the reactionary forces of the Germans and so on and so forth. And so everyone ends up operating from this logic of like, it's going to be really bad for us, if like the other side of this wins this war. And it ends up squandering this moment of possibility. And instead, everyone just gets sort of fed into the meat grinder. And I think the struggle playing out this way was effectively the worst possible thing that could have happened because it meant that like some of the only people who were left resisting it were

47:41people who shouldn't be running a dog kennel, much less, you know, like controlling the fate of the socialist movements and also it meant that the war was allowed to continue. And so I think from from a theoretical perspective, it's like it makes sense why people took the positions that they did and also like supporting this war was so catastrophically wrong that basically every subsequent of the 20th century can be laid upon it. But I don't know. The other thing I'll say about is like it's not clear to me if Republican acting differently would have like changed anything. But the sort of general failure of the socialist movement to actually grapple with this moment was a sort of apocalyptic moment in the history of class struggle that we have never recovered from. Yeah, I definitely don't think that the blame for World War II and all subsequent wars in the 20th century, which kind of in some way be connected to that world war one. I don't think we should lay

48:45the blame on the feet of Krapatkin or on the anarchist movement or the socialist movement. Yeah. All we can be do is speculate the what if, you know, yeah. And what if there was a unified front unified stand across all these countries, a commitment, a solid commitment to we will not cooperate with our respective states? How might the course of the war to know differently? How might history have played out differently? I guess we'll never know. Yeah. But we are in a position to shape the course of history here and now. Yeah. As the title of the podcast goes, you know, it could happen here. It kind of is happening here by here. I mean, on this planet across the world, we are dealing with wars, we are dealing with intersteed conflicts, diplomatic, economic, and military. And despite how interconnected we are through the internet, it certainly doesn't feel like we've

49:47come any closer to the kind of international solidarity that the Great War demanded. Let's alone see many was being reached across the world today. Yeah. But even, you know, the bleakness of the past and the bleakness of the present does not mean that the future indeed necessarily be as big. As I've said before, the definitional quality of modernity is that today is not like yesterday. And so we don't actually have to live through yet another round of imperialist butchery, we're different parts of the working class, a lot of each other. We don't have to live in a world that's, you know, defined by endless status and capitalist war. We can build something else. But that's something that is the responsibility of not the state because the state will never choose to abandon its privilege and abandon its wars. And it's not up to, you know, capital because capital will also continue fighting its wars, the only people who can do it is us.

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56:05of D-A-N-A-I-D-E-S dot org, which develops end-to-poise technology for civil society organizations operating in conflict and crisis environments. She's a PhD candidate in political sociology. And she wrote this really, really good article that was published initially on the club Demedia Part, which is a French journalism blog effectively. And she published also a really good translation of it. And I enjoyed it very much. I thought it was really valuable. So I reached out to Stephanie and asked if we could pay to host the audio version of her investigation. And she agreed. So I'm going to be reading it. She wanted me to do that, but I want to make it clear, none of this is my work. And I don't say that to, you know, defray any sort of responsibility or whatever. Like this is much better work than I could have done on the same subject. And I'm really proud to be able to host Stephanie's article. Before I get into our article, I do want to note that she is the author of two books, Ogura Toxica Uncivil Society in the internet age, which is about how anti-democratic actors use influence operations and digital platforms to mobilize and undermine

57:06democratic societies and law to rule or masculinist in 2024 and investigation into masculinist radical meal use their ideologies networks and use of violence as a political strategy. Both are published by editions due to tour. I think unfortunately there, I mean, unless you speak French, then it's very fortunate, but they are in French. Obviously, I'm going to be reading Stephanie's article in English, and here it goes. The hunt for Jason R. Day. Race science is a pseudo-science that feeds far right propaganda long relegated to the margins. It is gaining traction in universities and seeks to establish its proponents as arbiters of knowledge. The hunt that led to Jason R. Day's death reveals how this machinery of epistemic domination operates and who helps normalize it. From day one, everything pointed to the fact that Jason R. Day, the black neurodivergent Cambridge professor who died in August of 2026, was being subjected to racist and ableist harassment. Exactly the kind of targeting he himself had described. Arty had been marked as quarry long before the fatal media pile on an open and immensely well-funded race science international network enabled its hunters

58:11to unleash the pack to give the pursuit scale reach and political unity. But to break out of the margins of race science, the chase had to become something else. His extremist ideology needed to be laundered into a story about scientific and journalistic integrity. The media had ample evidence to challenge the frame imposed on them by the eugenicists. Instead, they adopted it, running with the hounds, and doing so legitimized both the aims and epistemic authority of race scientists. Marking the quarry. The hunt for Professor Jason R. Day began quietly. Three years earlier, couched in the civilized nodes of a scholarly society, a professor who was merely asking questions. In May of 2023, Dave Harris, a retired white academic and professor emeritus at Plymouth Marginan University, began examining Arty's publications. Arty's appointment as professor of sociology and education at Cambridge had made national news. At 37, he was the youngest black professor in the university's history. From the moment he arrived at Cambridge, Arty was targeted by freedom of information requests. In the United States, Christian nationalist organizations

59:14opposed to teaching and researching, drawing on critical race theory, CRT, which examines, among other things, how racism is reproduced through law and institutions, were already explicitly encouraging their supporters to use public records, procedures to target academics, and then identify or manufacture misconduct. Such smear campaigns are now part of the academic far-rights repertoire, aimed particularly at researchers who examine power relations, but also at those who are very present, who's perceived identity, appears to embody the gains of diversity, equity, and inclusion policies. The largely covert campaign against black scholars also surfaced in 2023, when the work of Claudine Gay, Harvard's first black president, came under heightened scrutiny against a backdrop of misogyny law. Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and former visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation, both Christian nationalist organizations, is one of the principal architects of the American campaigns against CRT and DEI. He helped turn the plagiarism allegations against Gay into a broader political offensive against minority

1:00:15representation in American institutions. What connects Rufo to what would later come for Arty is not only the method, but also the network. Rufo has repeatedly promoted race science focused online magazine, Aporia, and appeared on its podcast in 2023. Researched by the anti-fascist organization Hope Not Hate, identifies Aporia as the public facing arm of the Human Diversity Foundation, or HDF, a Wyoming registered company created as the successor to the Pioneer Fund, the American Eugenics Organization established in 1937. Byline Times reports that Rufo and HDF also shared a funder, tech entrepreneur Andru Conru invested $1.3 million in HDF, while his foundation gave $25,000 to Rufo's documentary foundation in 2021. Aporia repeatedly provided a platform for Nathan Kaufness, the race science researcher who would later propel the allegations against Arty to a mass audience. HDF co-founder Emil Kirkugard had met Peter Teal in 2019. According to Kirkugard's own account, Teal subsequently asked him to

1:01:17recommend other researchers. Kirkugard named Kaufness and Noah Carl, a Poria's editor, both have been run out of Cambridge for their mediocre work and overt racism. This network also overlaps directly with Britain's free speech union, FSU, founded by Spectator Magazine Associate Toby Young, who has himself advocated what he called progressive eugenics. Aporia's Noah Carl is the co-director of Skeptics LTD, the publishing company controlled by Young, while Aporia contributor Eric Kaufman sits on the FSU's advisory council. The funding of race science by Christian Nationalist and Extractive Industry Billionaires, including surveillance capitalism, serves a political function. As a story and if neoliberalism, Quinn's LeBody and Shows and High Ex bastards, racialist theories and the obsession with IQ make it possible to naturalize inequality. Social hierarchies are no longer presented as the product of power relations, but as the expression of supposedly objective biological differences that are hereditary. In largely secular societies,

1:02:18race science therefore provides Christian Nationalist with a substitute for the authority religion no longer commands. It also provides intelligent, success, techno-masculonists with a scientific veneer for the hierarchies they seek to uphold or even reinforce. The day Claudine Gay resigned as Harvard president Rufel announced an initial $10,000 fund for plagiarism hunting at elite universities, explicitly tying the bounty hunt to his campaign to defeat recalled racialist ideology. Plagiarism hunting reconfigures legitimacy, promoters of the junk science that is race science repositioned themselves as arbiters of scientific integrity, from which position they can disqualify those who expose the cultural foundations of systems of power. By June 2024, Black Academics were describing the climate in their universities as open season. The pursuit. So, against this backdrop of racist attacks on scholars at elite universities on the 4th of May 2023, Ardae received his first email from Dave Harris.

1:03:19Harris challenged his public work. When Ardae did not reply, Harris wrote again, on the 11th of May, Ardae eventually responded, accusing Harris of spending hours coming through his work, looking for mistakes. He told him not to contact him again. Anything further from you will be considered bullying and harassment, citing a past incident of bullying in which Harris had been involved. Harris replied anyway. Ardae had explicitly asked him to stop, but Harris willfully oblivious of his own oppressive behavior, treated the pursuit of academic standards as an entitlement to continue. Meanwhile, across the Atlantic, this very posture was growing. The self-appointed investigator of Black Academics could recast himself as a guardian of merit, simply a man of learning asking questions. With no reply to his last email, Harris took his claims elsewhere and enlisted another retired academic, Martin Hammersley, Professor Emeritus of Education and Social Research at the Open University, who has a history of wild claims about feminist standpoint theory. His grievance is what he regards as the influence of activist research on the social sciences and the diversity

1:04:21of viewpoints. On the 19th of May, 2023, Hammersley wrote to Hillary Krimman, head of Cambridge's faculty of education, and Rees Morgan, the university's head of research policy, governance and integrity, setting out allegations concerning Ardae's 2018 paper in social sciences. Krimman then met with Ardae and the faculty's director of research. Ardae agreed that the article could be temporarily removed from the journal's platform while the issues raised were examined. On the 21st of June 2023, Krimman told Hammersley that Ardae retained the faculty's full support. Morgan separately informed him that because the work predated Ardae's employment at Cambridge, the university did not consider an investigation to fall within its remit. Hammersley escalated the pursuit, rejecting their resolution and demanding a systematic investigation of Ardae's other publications. Krimman did not respond. The chase then spread beyond Cambridge. Harris and Hammersley contacted academic journals and Liverpool John Moore's University, which had awarded Ardae his PhD. Harris and Hammersley also harried Ardae outside university

1:05:21channels. As early as 2023, he contacted Jack Grove, a journalist at Times Higher Education, drawing his attention to the correction to Ardae's 2018 paper. Times Higher Education, THE, did not investigate the allegations and earnest until June 2025 when another professor contacted the publication about Ardae's work. Harris then supplied material to Grove, who scrutiny extended far beyond Ardae's publications to his CV, sporting achievements, charitable activities, and personal biography. By September, Grove had compiled a 63-page dossier, an approached Ardae for comment not only on his work, but on his private life. Bial accounts. Ardae experienced this as a continuation of the harassment he had already identified. The man he had asked to stop pursuing him had now enlisted journalists for the hunt. It's important at this stage to understand what the hunt had failed to achieve. After years of relentless scrutiny, only two of Jason Ardae's 33 peer-reviewed papers had been challenged. The article in Social Sciences was amended on December of 2023, with additional references and clarification of its relationship to earlier work.

1:06:25The paper in Educational Philosophy and Theory was corrected in May of 2024. Neither was retracted. By the time THE began its investigation in 2025, both matters had been closed. When the allegations eventually reached Ardae's PhD, Liverpool John Moore's University found citation defects but cleared him from plagiarism, including that they resulted from honest and reasonable error, compounded by inadequate supervision related to his learning disabilities. It's also important to center the story here. From Ardae's standpoint, and from LJMU's own standards, there was no intent to commit academic fraud. Ardae, for his part, consistently described what was happening to him as racist and ableist harassment, not legitimate academic debate. In April of 2026, in his British Sociological Association keynote, wanted dead or alive of the playbook, he described how black academics were being targeted through an identifiable repertoire already deployed against prominent scholars in the United States. He explicitly warned that the very instruments designed to protect academic integrity were being weaponized against them.

1:07:28By then, Ardae had already made public the very tangible effects of the campaign, racist abuse, threats, and intimidation. In a July 2025 letter to Jackie Smith, then Minister for Skills at the UK Department of Education, he reported a physical assault, death and rape threats against himself and his family, and racist objects and threats sent both through Cambridge and to his family home. In his memoir, he likewise described targeted campaigns driven by racial animus. In fact, the entire media coverage of the plagiarism affair cast Dave Harris in the familiar role of the reasonable, concerned academic, a variation on the concerned parent or concerned citizen routinely mobilized to lend the appearance of spontaneous, reasonable concern to far-right campaigns against sex education, trans rights, racial equality, and public health measures while Ardae became the eccentric young black professor resisting legitimate scrutiny. His attempts to protect himself were recorded as aggression through the classic mechanism of Darvo, Denai, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender, first identified

1:08:29by psychologist Jennifer Fried. The reversal drew on the myth of the perfect victim. In accuracy, in Ardae's autobiographical narrative, as well as unprovable facts were used to discredit his testimony. If he was not beyond reproach, perhaps he was not a victim at all, and perhaps his place at Cambridge was itself suspect, and maybe he even deserved to be harassed. In a historically white and male elite institution, credibility, merit, and belonging became entangled. The racist trope of the threatening black man did the rest. Ardae could be cast simultaneously as a aggressor and fraud, while those pursuing him became the hapless victims of an interloper with something to hide. But for the reversal to take hold, it had to be made public. Darvo works by manipulating how the third parties perceived victim and offender. On the 5th of August, as Ardae resigned from Cambridge and lost the institutional protections that came with his position, the Committee for Academic Freedom, CAF, an anti-DI organization, revealed that Ardae had reported Dave Harris to the police and that the case had been closed without further action. CAF's Frederick Attenborough,

1:09:32who had previously headed research at the Free Speech Union, FSU, framed Ardae's report to the police as a threat to academic freedom. Also on the 5th of August, Times Higher Education helped publicize the same reversal. Jack Grove published his account under the headline, I was reported to police over the Ardae case. I was just doing my job. Ardae's complaint to the police and his instruction of Carter Rook, the London firm specializing in media and defamation, were framed as attempts to obstruct legitimate journalism, while Ardae's attempts to protect himself from harassment became threats to press freedom. On the 10th of August, the FSU fused the supposed attacks on academic and press freedom into a single conspiratorial narrative, casting Ardae as a powerful censor determined to intimidate his critics. Quote, in a desperate bid to avoid scrutiny, Professor Ardae tried to use the police to silence a journalist in an academic. This threat frame survived Ardae's death on the 14th of August, that same day, THE published an opinion piece by Ian Pace, an advisory board member of academics for academic freedom, AFAF, who campaigns on institutional neutrality and academic free speech,

1:10:37alongside Cambridge professor and reform UK head of policy James O'R. As byline Times has documented O'R himself as a keynote in the same network, Peter Teal made a secret five-figured donation to Cambridge through O'R around the time of his appointment, while O'R later helped bring the Ray Science publication Aporia into organized national conservative politics. Pace argued that the Ardae affair demonstrated, quote, the danger of treating criticism as injury. Three days after Ardae's death, THE news editor Tom Williams maintained that the journalistic inquiry into the person of Ardae Beg Grove was justified. And we'll continue, but first, here's some ads. And we're back. The code of gentlemanly conduct. The chase had remained largely confined to allegations and rumors circulated by Harris and others through academic and journalistic channels.

1:11:38The public frenzy began an earnest on the far right French on the 21st of July, when Nathan Kaufness, the race scientist, published allegations based on a dossier he said he had recently received from an unidentified source inside Cambridge. That claim is unverifiable. Three days later, the telegraph to which free speech union founder and general secretary Toby Young regularly contributes, published an article with the title Cambridge Diversity Posture Boy in plagiarism Row. The Times in the Daily Mail followed that same day with similar articles. By the first of August, the Guardian published its investigation under the sensational headline plagiarism, playbooks, and a pig's head. The new claims surrounding Cambridge professor Jason Ardae. The story had become a national media affair, still oriented by the race science networks framing. Four days after the Guardian piece, Cambridge announced a new investigation into Ardae's qualifications and career citing new information. Ardae resigned later that day, saying that the relentless accusation, speculation, and public commentary had taken a profound toll on him and those he loved. The scrutiny had to be of Ardae, not the pack. The Guardian article subjected

1:12:44Ardae's accounts of racist harassment to my new scrutiny, going so far as to check some of them with police and witnesses and finding discrepancies, but the three-year pursuit initiated by Harris, the quarry, the chase, and the context, was entirely absent from the story. Harris briefly appears in the article as a concerned academic. But Dave Harris's own history should have complicated his portrayals in neutral source. For example, it's publicly available information that, in May of 1998, Times Higher Education reported that Harris had been dismissed from what is now Plymouth Marion following a complaint alleging harassment and bullying. Harris maintained that the dispute had begun after he and a colleague raised concerns about academic standards, and his union supported his appeal. He was reinstated the following month, although the re-hearing upheld a finding of misconduct and issued him with a formal warning. This history should have at least alerted the Guardian to a possible recurring pattern of behavior, although Ardae had pitched specifically to him, maybe sending the arts and culture editor to cover the story was not the appropriate choice to cover a far-right propaganda campaign.

1:13:46In a video published after Ardae's death, Harris lied, saying he had been cleared. Furthermore, Times Higher Education accounts repeatedly conflated civility with integrity. Harris's correspondence was described as notably, even excessively polite, as though civility of tone-guaranteed disinterestedness of purpose. Times Higher Education's Jack Grove recalled his first email in his August 5th account as softly phrased. By then, Ardae had already asked Harris to stop contacting him and reported him to the police. When Times Higher Education had resumed its investigation in 2025, Tom Williams similarly described the anonymous professor who contacted him as almost apologetic about raising his concerns. Politeness became a proxy for trustworthiness, while the repetition and escalation of approaching THG at the very conduct Ardae had identified as harassment disappeared from view. Two things can be true at once. A harasser can also be perfectly gentlemanly. As race and performance scholars Kyla, Wozana, Tompkins, and Tavi and Nyongo have argued, civility operates as a covert political aesthetic and a rhetorical mode which

1:14:50guards the boundaries of access to politicity. It helps determine who speech and conduct are recognized in the first place as legitimate political participation. Harris's softly phrased manner helped make him legible as reasonable, measured, rational, and therefore credible, irrespective of the cumulative effect of his conduct. The veneer of politeness, combined with other markers of legitimacy, a white man, a professor emeritus, a selfless defender of academic standards, positioned Harris as an arbiter of scientific integrity rather than an object of scrutiny himself. Retraction watch, a specialist publication dedicated to research integrity and misconduct, glaringly failed to scrutinize Harris's own track record, and its lengthy investigation published on 27 July, it detailed Harris's pursuit and quoted Ardae explicitly asking him to stop, yet did not frame that conduct as harassment, nor did it mention that Harris had himself previously been dismissed following allegations of harassment and bullying in a dispute he set arose from concerns about academic standards. Instead, Harris was given space to complain that bloody awful work could get through when

1:15:53standards were relaxed for special issues devoted to activist issues, like racial inequality. Harris's own record received no comparable scrutiny, nor was his sustained campaign against critical race theory treated as activism. The very man denouncing other people's work as bloody awful had himself faced questions about the quality of his research. In April of 2025, internal Plymouth Marjon correspondence described publications produced in the Marjon name as poor quality and often controversial. A criticism Harris himself understood to refer to his methodological assessments of critical race theory. His resulting critique of CRT was self-published in March 2024 rather than published by an academic press. The pamphlet attracted just five reviews, including a generic endorsement from Martin Hammersley. Concerns about the poor standard of Harris's research had already been public knowledge since January of 2026, when the telegraph reported Plymouth Marjon's decision to suspend his emeritus status. In that article, the telegraph explained the university's assessment of the publications produced in the Marjon name, or poor quality and

1:16:56often controversial. Although the telegraph framed Harris as the injured party and academic stripped of title after critiquing critical race theory, the information was now in the public domain, readily available to any journalist assessing his credibility when the Ardae allegations resurfaced in July. Between the 24th of July and Ardae's death on the 14th of August, the telegraph published 43 articles about Jason Ardae. It even ran a box headed, how the telegraphs reporting led to Jason Ardae's resignation. After his death, the newspaper quietly altered the headline, Jason Ardae is living proof that you reap what you're so, removing the word living. Meanwhile, the January article about Harris briefly disappeared from the telegraph's website, the very article containing information that should have disqualified Harris from being treated as an unimpeachably credible source. What felled Ardae was not the action of isolated actors, but that of a single well-connected and well-financed pack with a not-so-secret plan. In 2023, Nathan Kaufness laid out a roadmap to power on his sub-stack,

1:17:57how to take back academia. He was not alone in articulating such a strategy, and the prescriptions tend to look very similar. Quote, there are two ways to reduce the power of the woasters on campus, remove them by showing that they don't satisfy minimal criteria for contract renewal or academic promotion, or dilute their influence by bringing in some of the non-woake scholars who have been pushed out of academia for political reasons. The two-pronged approach, eliminate the black scholars, platform the mediocre white males, is apparent with the support system they enjoy. When Dave Harris had his emeritus status suspended in January of 2026, he became a cause-selebb in Britain's anti-woke ecosystem, with the Committee for Academic Freedom, CAF rallying to his defense. CAF's Friedrich Attenborough, during his time at the Free Speech Union, had also defended Nathan Kaufness. When a manual college, Cambridge, terminated Kaufness' affiliation on 5 April 2024 following his writings on race, heredity, and intelligence, the FSU assisted him in the proceedings, with Attenborough personally promoting his case. Kaufness later stated that FSU Chief Legal Counsel, Bren Harris, assisted his appeal.

1:19:00The FSU subsequently backed his legal challenge and urged supporters to contribute to his legal fund. The FSU itself says it has supported Kaufness throughout and helped him bring legal action against a manual college. In March of 2026, Attenborough, now at CAF, intervened on Kaufness' behalf again, urgent Ghent University to resist demands that his appointment be rescinded. Kaufness had been recruited to Ghent by Bukh Devri, whose own work on intelligence and disjinnic fertility draws extensively on hereditary and researchers. In 2024, Devri also attended the London Conference on Intelligence alongside Human Diversity Foundation co-founder and Meal Kirkugard. Devri had already sought university funding to bring Kaufness to Ghent for a lecture in February of 2024, just days after Kaufness published a guide for hereditary and revolution, before later hiring him as a postdoctoral researcher on his liberalism's fertility problem project. So when on 21 July, Nathan Kaufness published DEI fraud and cover-up at Cambridge on his substack, the architecture of uncivil society actors to immediately scale the harassment

1:20:05initiated by Harris, as well as give cover to the attackers, was already in place. So was the framing. Kaufness heavily promoted his blog entry on X, or the post-exceeded 1 million views. It was amplified by figures such as Richard Hennania, the American race and IQ writer from the same reactionary intellectual Meal E. Lewis Curtis, YARVEN. A foundational figure of the anti-democratic, dark enlightenment, YARVEN coined the concept of the cathedral to describe what, in secular societies, he presented as a new church. A decentralized system made up in particular of universities and mainstream media, responsible for producing and disseminating progressive orthodoxy, and policing the boundaries between truth and heresy. The concept made refutation almost impossible, if academic institutions rejected race science, that rejection itself could be presented as proof of their membership in the cathedral, discrediting academic knowledge production on race while recasting hereditary and race science as censored truth fitted directly into this logic. By the time the first national newspaper articles appeared three days later in

1:21:06the telegraph, the times in the Daily Mail, Kaufness and those amplifying his narrative had already transformed Arda into a symbol of the supposed corruption of universities by DEI. A DEI star, whose alleged failings were presented as proof, that Cambridge had sacrificed academic standards to racial hiring and then sought to conceal the consequences. Brought to bay, on the 31st of July, Arda submitted to an interview with the Times to defend himself against the allegations, but by then the media pack was closing in and the kill seemed ineffitable. According to newscords verified Corpus, 52 articles about Arda had appeared by the time of his resignation statement was published on the 5th of August. Arda's resignation did not stop the hunt, because the actions of the victim have no bearing on the level of harassment they receive. It stops when the harassers stop, whether because they move on to another target or because institutions and bystanders intervene. If the prey is isolated, the hunt can intensify. Another 222 articles appeared between his resignation and the moment he was found dead on the 14th of August. 214 through the 13th and 8 more that day before his death became known. In all,

1:22:10newscord records 274 articles across 26 outlets in the 22 days between the first national coverage on the 24th of July and his death. Of those articles, my own, Stephanie's, mapping identifies at least 23 produced by outlets or authors with links to the FSU, 19 of them after Arda resigned. 21 appeared in the spectator alone, where FSU founder Toby Young is associate editor and columnist. Another was written in the telegraph by FSU linked Alice in Pearson and another in the Times by FSU chair Nigel Bigger. And we'll continue, but first we've got one last ad break. And we're back. The trophy. Rather than a media pile on, this was predatory propaganda. Fighting propaganda is not simply a matter of determining whether each individual claim is true or false. It is first and foremost a struggle over who has the power to define reality. That is

1:23:15what framing does. It places certain perspectives at the center, relegates others to the margins, and determines what becomes visible, sayable, and relevant. That authority, that power, is precisely what is at stake. Race science, a belief system fundamentally untethered from reality, needs to be received as science. Its proponents crave legitimacy because their very existence depends on it. Without recognition from journalists, universities, and the public, they remain what they are, marginal and extremist. With it, they acquire the authority to police the boundaries of knowledge, to decide what counts as evidence, what constitutes merit, whose scholarship borne's investigation, and whose testimony can be dismissed as mere grievance. And Arda was an extraordinarily useful object around which to manufacture that authority. A young black professor at Cambridge with a remarkable life story working on racism, sinism, and inequality. Make him doubtful enough and he can be made to carry the weight of a much larger proposition. Perhaps inclusion policies put him there, perhaps standards were lowered, perhaps research on racism itself is suspect. Perhaps the people telling us racism structures

1:24:18the academy are precisely the people who do not belong in it. You do not have to prove the whole proposition, you only have to keep the doubt moving. As defense researcher Olive E. Schmidt, now research director at the Institute for Military Operations at the Royal Danish Defense College has shown, methodological doubt can be turned into systematic doubt. I'm just asking questions, then becomes a posture through which suspicion can be kept moving alive and definitely, even in the absence of sufficient evidence, while claiming the credibility of critical thinking. Arda did not have to be proved a fraud, he only had to be made permanently suspect, and with him everyone who looked like him. But the hunt could continue only as long as the pact kept running and the hounds bang. Arda's mass harassment on social media was participatory, for some the serialization of revelations, discrediting him became collective fun, harassed, painment. Adam Surwer, the American journalist at the Atlantic whose work examines race and American politics capture this political pleasure in collective humiliation in

1:25:19one phrase, the cruelty is the point. For others, the reward was informational ascendancy, and a misguided impression that their contribution would protect science somehow. Kate Starbert, a University of Washington professor who studies collective since making, has shown that online crowds do not merely consume a narrative, they participate in investigating, producing, and circulating the material that sustains it. The invitation to go and look for yourself to check another supposedly outlandish claim to uncover another discrepancy was particularly enticing to those who defined themselves as rationalists or skeptics. Participation could be experienced as independent inquiry, affording a sense of intellectual superiority over those who brought the issue back to the reality of harassment, and thereby establishes ascendancy over them. Participation in the harassment offered epistemic domination, that reward helps explain why, even after Arda's death, so many of those who engaged with the ready stream of revelations remain invested in fact checking him to this day, unable to let him go, even the reasonable minds. Kate Starbert has also argued that the answer

1:26:22to information disorder lies, quote, not in better facts, but better frames. Arda was hounded to death, but the frame that made the hunt possible survives, a frame centered on the feelings of cisgender white men who believe themselves be being greatly replaced from the institutions that produce knowledge, while pushing Arda's own perspective out of view. On the 20th of August, six days after the kill, Gent University suspended covenants as a precautionary measure, pending a disciplinary investigation into conduct that, in part, predated his post about Arda. The disciplinary letter describes months of complaints, reports, and concerns about his conduct and public statements, and their impact on staff and students. It accuses him, among other things, of using his position and Gent affiliation to pursue and promote his race realism and hereditary in revolution, despite having him to hire to work on the future of liberalism. The university regarded this as a breach of his professional obligations, a misuse of his institutional reputation, and a conflict with its code of ethics, which prohibits, among other things, the dissemination of ideas of racial

1:27:23superiority and incitement to racial segregation. This time, fraud really was at the heart of the case. Coffness immediately recast his suspension of censorship and attack on his freedom of speech. The experiences of his racialized colleagues disappeared from the story. His claim amplified by the very architecture of actors implicated in the hunt, but now with an American dimension. Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal handed him its opinion pages to consolidate the frame. How I became the scapegoat in the Jason R. Day affair. My university suspended me, the article declared, all I did was tell the truth. US ambassador to Belgium bill white then reproduced the free speech frame, pressuring Gent to reinstate Coffness and warning that all options were on the table as the United States reviewed its relationship with the university. Its rector, Petra Dissutter, a trans woman and former Green Party deputy prime minister of Belgium, then became the new target onto which the frame could be transferred. Within days, an open letter opposing the punishment of a whistleblower in the person of Coffness attracted more than 800 academics. Among them,

1:28:25actors embedded in a billionaire-funded Christian nationalist and transphobic networks across Europe. In France and Belgium, for example, signatories Florence, Buerigard, Blackner, and Xavier-Laurent Salvador led back to Christian nationalist billionaire Pierre Edward Sterin, who funds Salvador's observatory due to colonialism. While his Pericles project funds Justicia, created with the Institute Thomas Moore and Belgium, Beladder collaborates with Buerigard Blackner and is linked to a French-transphobic organization that fuels campaigns against trans rights. Pierre Edward Sterin's observatory has since expanded its remit. The organization intervenes in academic controversies in the name of academic freedom, opposition to censorship and scientific integrity, a function comparable to that of the free speech union in the United Kingdom. And like the FSU, it has relays across several media spaces. Its actors circulate in particular through the neosecularist cluster around Le Point. Marianne, Frank Theroux, and Charlie Hebdo, but also through far-right media organs such as Le Thigaro, Casseur, Belierse actuels, and

1:29:30Atlantico. Added to this is Christian nationalist Vincent Bolors' media apparatus, CNU's, Europe 1, JDD, and others. But Buerigard Blackner and Salvador are not the only French signatories. Martin Benoit, John Fichot, Andreas Bichovie, and Charles Ramond have, like Buerigard Blackner and Salvador, signed initiatives organized by Vigilance Universities, a collective founded in 2016 to combat what it describes as racialism, communitarianism, and attacks on universalism and higher education. The neosecularist Mouliou thus performs both a function of monitoring and that of ideological laundering, the dominant groups' identity anxieties, and that objectives advanced by Christophash's networks are stripped of their religious matrix and translated into the language of universalism, secularism, science, and academic freedom. Nathan Kaufness has since been permitted to return to his mediocre work, albeit remotely in pending investigations. But he is only a cog in a well-oiled machine, the one who looks the part behind him, billionaire money flows through think tanks, media and strategic litigation and

1:30:33concerned academics, allowing the same politics of white cis male supremacy to circulate under the cover of neutrality, a very long way from the besieged dissidents they claim to be. The hood is not what makes the racist. Sometimes it simply makes the racist easier to recognize, and race science is a lab code with an equally white hood. Beyond slot against Jason Arda was not inevitable, it became possible because at every stage of the pursuit, people and institutions, the police, universities, the media, the commentariat, chose to ignore his warnings, legitimize the frame and ample by the reality imposed by the proponents of race science. Collectively, we did not simply follow the hunt, we handed them the trophy, the power to define what is real. To overturn that frame, to take back the power, we first have to lift the hood, collectively name what is wearing it. That starts with bringing the voices of those producing knowledge from the front lines back to the center and listening when they sound the alarm. Jason Arda was afforded no such attention. The stakes are huge. As Jafaris and Claire Allen, professor of black studies at Columbia University writes in the nation,

1:31:36this is a transatlantic movement to end the independent production of knowledge about race and power and to decide on both shores who is permitted to produce it at all. The question now is whether we can recognize the hunt for power when it disguises itself as free speech, academic freedom or scientific concern, and refuse our assigned role in the killing of our democracies. And that's it. Again, this was written by Stephanie Lamy. You can find more of her work on the club D'Amedia part and we'll have that linked in the show notes. Thank you again, Stephanie. We'll be back tomorrow. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. I just remember this low taunting voice

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1:35:50this world had I known. I keep coming back to a truly hope that Patreon was a thousand percent on board with the plan. Do you think of him as having killed her? Yes, I do. I hold Michael responsible for my mother's death. I'm Leon Nayfak. And I'm Alice Gregory. Together we set out to interview everyone who got one of Patreon Michaels letters as one married couple trying to understand another. Listen to death of an artist on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you have a favorite ancient civilization that you were living in about Corona? Oh, bad. So many. I guess I enjoyed Celtic things because that's part of the world I'm from. What was the name of that Celtic? I think she was Celtic. Like a Celtic warrior queen, Bobo Disha. Out of Bobo Disha, she was happy we used to say it, but Boudica I think is more accurate. That speed. Like she was someone who had resisted the Roman envisions, right?

1:36:57Yeah, that's right. When my dad lives is like where the Romans built their border wall, called Hadrian's wall. And it's just kind of cool to be like, you know, the Romans bought their colonialism to all of Europe and they got here and they're like, I can't fucking do it. It might have been they got to that part of the world. They were like, it's raining so fucking much. I want to go back to Italy. But yeah, obviously it was always interesting to me to think of like, you know, the amount of a model world that's still impacted by Roman colonization and then these people who were able to resist it. Yeah, I remember as a child, I was a really big fan of Egypt. Of course, I think it's classic. Of course. Greece, you can go wrong. Yeah. And Babylon, big fan. I like the Beards. Yeah. You know, very cool. Yeah. As someone who, you know, I grew up like with a very just appetite for those living long ago, how people live in the past like historical books, how people dressed,

1:38:01what they eat, how they lived day to day. And a lot of those ancient civilizations were presented to me as humanity's great achievements. You know, the magnificent architecture, the advances in agriculture, their remarkable works of art and so on. But as I got older and I started reading more history from below rather than history through the lens of kings and empires, I learned more about life before civilization and outside of empire. And I really became less interested in civilization as something to be held up as the pinnacle of what you and Saki will love. Although I am still very much interested in it as an idea and how we think about and talk about it as an idea. And so this is it could happen here. I am Andrew Siege or Andrewsum on YouTube joined again by

1:39:02James. People have already heard me sounding off, but yeah, nice to be here again. Yes. In case you didn't recognize the voice. Yeah. And I want to talk about the meaning of civilization. If I were to ask you if you were civilized, how would you respond? I think I spine not to be, but like I have been raised in a society which very much proposed this binary between the civilized and the unsililized, I guess savage is a word you could use if you were looking at how that society portrayed it, right? And even though I think British education and stuff wouldn't use that word anymore, it says a lot about the state and its desire to shape narratives in its favor. So I think I would aspire to decimalize myself, I guess. I'm not like anti-siv in the big skewer things, but I think in the way that it's often used to describe indigenous peoples or peoples who are not on the control of the state,

1:40:03I don't like that very much. Yeah, it's interesting to me because if you ask most people, they would probably just be like, yes, they would say yes without hesitation. Sure. You know, obviously we're not most people. But as you mentioned, the alternative being the savage, that is something that has fallen out of fashion. You know, that exact binary of civilized and savage is not involved, you know, it's not treated as something that you see. And yet we maintain one half of the binary as something to uphold. So we still see, you know, we are civilized and civilization, but you wouldn't as much see descriptions of the alternative of the barbarian, the unsililized, the savage, the primitive. I think you can ask people like, what is a civilization? What do you mean by being civilized? And it's a bit shaky, you know, it's one of those concepts that is so familiar,

1:41:06so used to being referenced, that not many people stop to interrogate it. And we threw the word around all the time when it can mean cities or technology or modernity, or law or culture or the state, or simply not being barbaric. Historically, it's also been a way of dividing humanity. The Greeks, I believe, were the ones who referred to basically anyone who didn't speak Greek as a barbarian. Yeah. You know, China infamously treated everything outside of China as the barbarian. Yeah, isn't it like a literally an unimatter payer, like people are saying like, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. I think I've heard that story as well, yeah. How much your whole truth is? Yeah, I'm not super familiar with the like the little exhausting on that one, I guess. Yeah, but you know, the distinction of the civilized and barbarian is something that has been weaponized across history to justify conquest and colonization and hierarchical taxonomies

1:42:15of the human race. White man's, bulletin, quote, and quote, was to bring civilization to the less advanced people. Yeah. Civilization being, of course, the most advanced stage of human social and cultural development, which to me is itself a hubris because I think that presumption that we made it, you know, we reach where we go in, you know, what we figured out here, this is it. Yeah, you know, I think that is a very damaging way of thinking. Definitely. And it's something that I think is embedded into a very popular perception of what civilization is. You know, usually historically civilization has also been tied to cities, right in large populations, agriculture, social stratification of some kind, a specialized labor, monumental architecture, and of course, the state. Yeah. Buried in many of these associations is the assumption that hierarchy is advanced,

1:43:16that this way of structuring human society is the destination we will always headed to. You know, we have this term in anthropology, state less. The presumption being that lacking a state is itself, you know, something that perhaps needs to be rectified. I'm not saying that every anthropologist takes his perspective, but you know, the words we use carry certain connotations. And I think that for some people, particularly people, raise in a civilization context, it's like, oh, yeah, they haven't reached where we have reached yet. They haven't gotten there yet. They haven't evolved to a point where they've developed a state yet, but that is the trajectory that they are on or are supposed to be on. Yeah. The more bureaucracy and rule and classes and institutions, your society has the more advanced it is presumed to be. And then of course, you have people like Samuel Huntington who used civilization in this very broad census cultural identity. Yeah. I have a pretty negative impression of Samuel Huntington

1:44:22as a human being and as theorist, but as do I mean, I think we all do. To give you the listener and indication, he treats Islam as a civilization, Hinduism as a civilization, Orthodoxy as a civilization. And then everything sold to the Sahara in Africa is just one civilization. Tim. Yeah. I love that like Islam is civilization and also like south of the Sahara is a civilization as if never the two shall meet, right? Like famously, there were no Muslims in Africa. Yeah. Just like that. The maps that I've seen he does have like Islam in Africa as well. If you ever look at the map, the map is awful. The map is just awful. Yeah. The map gives me fucking yeah, like it admittedly has been a long time since I have engaged. Yeah, Muslim and African. And I guess yeah, he includes a horn of Africa in Muslim. Fucking unbelievable. Yeah,

1:45:23confusion. Japan just exists just like a like every other culture is like massively homogenized. And then Japanese is completely unique and it's a little in this little bubble. Yeah. Yeah. This is not such like I'm sorry. Like that's so weeb coded to me. Yeah. It's incredibly white dude who hasn't fucking really engaged with the world coded. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh yeah, the entire continent of Africa. Sure. Fine. Whatever. That's Africa. Japan though. Like there's Japan is distinct from Korea, from China, from Philippines, from all of Asia. Japan is its own thing. Yeah. From these places it's had exchange with for centuries. Yeah. And then like the entirety of North America, Greenland, Western Europe and Australasia is just Western. The indigenous peoples there don't exist right like the differences in those cultures. Yeah, well, Western is called for white. So yeah, it's not surprising. Yeah, that's definitely what he's doing there.

1:46:28His famous argument was that future conflicts would be predicated on clashes between the civilizations. Hence clashes of civilizations be in the title of his book. Yeah. I don't find it very convincing. I don't think you do either. Yeah. No, I'm not buying it to be honest. Yeah. It treats these big cultural blobs as if they're unified entities and discrete entities when history has been a long story of exchange, borrowing, overlap, divergence, migration and transformation. Yeah. Finally for another perspective, I want to share on this subject of civilization, we have David Wengru, who many of you may know as the core author of the dawn of everything. And for him, he argued that if we're going to keep using the word civilization, we should think of it as

1:47:34a product of interaction between societies. So through trade and conflict and migration and imitation collaboration, civilization is like an emergent phenomenon of that interconnectedness. I think that is somewhat eduasing critic, but still compelling and somewhat familiar approach to the idea. Typically people do think of civilizations as discrete entities though. Yeah. At least in the layman's perspective, but the field of anthropology and historical research I know is right with comparative studies and investigations of those very exchanges between societies. So as he is speaking from an anthropological perspective, I see why he would want to put forward that reframing and think more definitions of words and connotations and stuff. It is not a bit as really objectively correct. The orders point into different things.

1:48:35And the way that we use language is always going to be subject to debate. I think the fact that we can even agree on what civilization exactly is should probably make us a bit more cautious in how we make sweeping claims about it. And really I feel every about many of the words that we threw around. So casually, but one consistency I've seen across most definitions of civilization is this packaging with of course the city, but also with ideas of advancement and development, which of course begs the question advanced according to whom in a measured by what standard, how do you actually quantify how much more advanced one society is compared to another? In order to benchmark his skyscrapers and bureaucracies and stand in armies or industrial output, then yeah sure modern states score very highly in too much of advancement. But then we can ask you know why should those with specific metrics we use, why not measure the advancement of a

1:49:35society according to how much leisure its members enjoy. Or by how equal they are or by how sustainable they engage with the ecosystem of them better than why how much freedom regular people have over their own lives. You know we can pick different measure and stakes and get different winners and losers in this competition of advancement. But the measure and stigma we're working with when we speak of civilization clearly isn't very helpful for many of us. All societies are not working with the same measure and stick despite the efforts to impose this capitalist neoliberal measure and on everybody. You know we have countless experiments and examples of different ways of organizing life across history. Some last and for centuries others millennia, some expaned and empires others stay in small, some paradise inequality, others paradise in hierarchy, accumulation versus mobility. You know we can't assume that all of humanity is trying to reach the same predictive and destination.

1:50:37So the whole language of more and less civilized doesn't really cut it for me. But the language of civilization does work for the people that it's used. The people who see their society as the highest stage of human development, which must be imposed on others by evangelism and conquest and so on to bring in development. And the same attitude is extended to people by European colonial powers to invade these lands for wealth and territory, to conquer them, to treat them as a lesser on the latter of human development. That very same attitude extends beyond people to nature itself as something wild and unproductive and waiting to be mastered by civilization. But one thing is really stuck with me in reading for instance James C. Scott, which talks about this in against the green, it's just how fragile and not inevitable this

1:51:41civilized-y shall-development was. You know these early states very often collapsed, very often fragmented. And for many people in those contexts the collapse quote-unquote was an escape to freedom. You know it was something that gave them an opportunity to dispose and to create smaller communities and to have greater autonomy and fewer obligations to rulers. And so with all that history in mind, I find the concept of civilization you know something to think about but certainly not something to idealize. Yeah, something that just came to my mind is a speech that Derroti gave to the cops on the eve of the Catalan revolution, right? So 19th of July. So the cops have been sent, right? They know that the military is going to rise up against them, right? They know that in the coming days that they will either have to fight their own military or accept the end of this like liberal

1:52:46democracy in Spain, right? This Republican Spain. The Catalan government has still sent the police to seize weapons from the anarchists, right? Who are the most capable people of fighting this coup? They would rather state than no state, I guess, right? The state's always going to have more solidarity with the state than its constituents. And he says to the cops, sometimes when we're given an order we have to disobey it and even if the order comes from a very big and important person to translate obviously in paraphrase to we civilize ourselves with disobedience. It's a really interesting phrase, right? Like to him, I guess the concept of civilization is dignity and autonomy. The person who is given up their autonomy to the state is not civilized because they have given up that autonomy and allowed the state to be the one that makes their decisions for them, right? It's an alternative use. It's like an inversion basically. Exactly.

1:53:46Yeah, yeah. Like he's taken that term and said like it's fundamentally uncivilized of you to allow the state to be the one that makes the choices for you. It's just a really interesting yeah, inversion of a terminology. Yeah, yeah, I think it's curious because when I look at for instance, this is book civilized death by Christopher Ryan and he uses this concept of human domestication. Okay, and he argues that you know, just as humans selectively, Brad and conditioned animals, to fit into environments that we designed for all and purposes, civilization shaped us to fit the needs of these large hierarchical systems. Okay, you know, with sort of routines and obedience and punctuality for activity, dependence on these institutions. And so it's kind of interesting to me that you know, priorities, freement, the domestication of civilization is precisely what makes us uncivilized. Yeah, like the force

1:54:52pathosism, I don't know how to say it, like it is what makes us uncivilized, it makes us undignified. Yeah, and I guess that is another use or connotation or source easy with civilization that is utilized in there, which is civilization as dignity, right, as being upright or dignified as a person to be civilized as to be, you know, a certain standard or caliber of person. Yeah, exactly that. Yeah. And so he's kind of pointing to civilization as corrupting that caliber by making us slavishly dependent on the institutions over which we have very little control over. Yeah, it's like, it's interesting, like, in version, I'm sure how useful it is, like, I'm sure it's a term that anyone needs to recapture, but it's interesting, you know, first thing, even if I find that an invasion is not necessarily practical in terms of day-to-day communication, I think playing with concepts, you know, tinkering with concepts,

1:55:56invoiting them, I think it's still useful in better grasping them. Yes. In better formality, to not sense of what they are and what they are not. Yeah, I've definitely, like, the meaning of a word is something we co-create over time, right? It's not like a fixed thing. And obviously we have these dictionaries and they have the meanings of words, but like, language is just a way of communicating concepts. And so, like, we co-create that meaning as we redefine those concepts. Exactly. So, much of modern civilized life clearly isn't good for us. I see that after stretching my back with, you know, great futility as I spent most of my day sitting, working at a desk, you know, a lot of people are working jobs, they find meaningless,

1:57:00certainly because they need the income to survive, you know, they are spending most of the working hours indoors, unexplored to fresh air. Yeah. If they even have fresh air, also doors because any of us live in urban environments where the standards of, yeah, quality are not the best. You could also speak of the race of stress and loneliness and anxiety and depression and burnout that have continued to rise even as our material wealth as societies, not necessarily as individuals, but as societies and our technological capabilities have both increased. I don't think you have to be a primitiveist and advocate for some return to prehistory, to recognize the negatives, the rear-seeing. And while I think many technological developments are associated with civilization have genuinely improved people's lives, you know, antibiotics, dentistry, planes, the internet, especially for disabled people in those medical conditions that otherwise be untreatable.

1:58:03You know, these are very beneficial innovations. Yeah. I just don't think that civilization as we have structured and conceived of it has emanoply on innovation. In his book, Wild Thoughts, Claude Levy-Strow said mainly point that many of humanity's greatest technological breakthroughs in agriculture, weaving, pottery, animal domestication, they would develop long before we conventionally think of as civilization. Human beings have always been creative, we've always experimented, we've always invented and we always will. I don't think we can or should go back because I mean there are billions of us now mostly in cities that are far from ecologically sustainable, but I think if we keep the history of our diverse social forms in mind, then as we go forward, we can try to preserve what generally enriches human life, while leaving behind the institutions and assumptions that no longer do. By the way,

1:59:06do you by chance have a blueprint for the future of our species? No, I don't think I do either than working it out together. Yeah, I mean either. Hope in someone might, I guess we have to figure that out together, exactly. Yeah, that is a blueprint. Exactly. I'm really not interested in seeing that there's one correct society that everybody has to adopt. I think we can learn something from the incredible diversity of human societies that have existed and we can use that not for mimicry, but for inspiration. You know, to realize that we too can pursue these uncharted territories and develop something new or to take old concepts and stretch them into new forms. Yeah, definitely. The author Daniel Quinn in his book Ishmael had made a point that tribes can be defined not by Hunts and Catherine or ethnicity, but as a social organization that allows

2:00:12people to make a living together. And so this definition, you know, people still today create tribal forms organization all the time, whether it be mutual aid networks, affinity groups, intentional communities, wherever people freely organize themselves around shared needs and shared purposes. One thing Quinn emphasizes is that these kinds of societies can be very flexible. You know, when these arrangements are no longer working for us, we can change them, we can walk away from them. We're not tied to them in the way that we are basically bound by an enormous bureaucracy that we're supposedly in social contract with today. And so really for me, that's what I want to focus on. A world where people have greater control over their lives, more decentralized, more cooperation, a world where organizations are things that people can freely join at reshape and split and leave. And they no longer serve in their needs. I really care about GDP metrics and, you know,

2:01:14mega city concentrations. I just want to know, you know, how we get from here to there together. And to me, that is something that requires, as I said many times before on this podcast and on my YouTube channel, it requires opposition to systems of domination through confrontation and non-cooperation through things like strikes and boycotts and other forms of resistance. And it also requires, on the other end of that equation, that we prefigure the world we want to live in by promoting certain ideas and philosophies. But more so by building the actual relationships and institutions we want this to live in and be a part of. And I think these are two processes that will reinforce each other. You know, people see and experience different ways of organizing their lives and that informs their ideology. They become more confident that these alternatives are

2:02:14possible. It drives them to push them in new directions. So I still have to say that the idea of civilization had its place and has had its time. But I think that we can let go of that old idea. You know, that we don't have to assume that there is no other alternative. And I think that requires not just a rejection but an active replacement. To make the cracks of the old order apparent and to make the idea, the only idea of liberalism, capitalism and civilization unconvincing by the presentation of this other alternative. I know some people might call that next thing a better civilization. But I would prefer to be, you know, it didn't bind ourselves to that old terminology. At least that's how I try to approach it.

2:03:20And what about you? Yeah, I don't think we should be beholden to these things that can hold us back. Right. And as you say, we should be more focused in like building the world that we want to live in. Not so much of building the world we've been told we should want to live in. Language can turn into a way of seeing the world. And I think we need to be careful of letting language determine how we see the world in a way that inherently limits our ability to create a better one. And I think this is a concept that we need to be very careful of like when it comes to that. And just like the inherent bigotry that came came with a lot of civilization narratives. Right. Sometimes I do like the idea that Scott talks about this a little bit right. But like that, in fact, these people in states who were domesticated and they were domesticated by grain crops. Grain crops brought those people in, for some to live in a certain place, for some to live in a certain way, although so they could tend and care for grain crops. Like I think maybe it's flipping that around might help people understand a little bit.

2:04:23Yeah, I think there's a, I forget the name of the book. He said, botany of desire. Yeah, I haven't read that. I've been recommended that before. Yeah, I read that a couple years ago. And I do think it was on that very subject. The idea that the plans that we've raised having some ways domesticated us. Right. Just as we have domesticated them has been over a super cool process. Yeah, I like that idea. That I think was like a theme or element of that book, if I remember correctly. Okay, nice, yeah. Or maybe it's a theme that I read into it. Right. Either way, I think it's the use, sometimes the use for where I'm seeing the world. And yeah, I guess that's what I take away as well. Play around with concepts. Tinker with them, flip them upside down. And I think that is also how we innovate. How we create new things, new meaning. You know, there is this, I think it's a proverb. Or it might be an ecclesiasties. What it's like, there's nothing new under the sun. Yeah.

2:05:27So it's like creativity is just the ways that we repurpose, whatever it exists. We build upon everything that came before. And we're if we were willing to play around with it if we want to get that point of innovator. Yeah. That's pretty much what I have for today. All the people. Peace. This is it could happen here executive disorder. Our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world and what this means for you. I'm Garrison Davis. This episode we are covering the week of August 26th to September 2nd. Today I'm joined by James Stout, Robert Evans and special correspondent prop from our show Hood Politics. Welcome.

2:06:27Hey, long time listener. First time caller. You know, that'd be here. First time on ED. You've been on it could happen here a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Your favorite cousin. You know, James, do you want to start with your little short news items? This is a barrage of bad news. Proof of you're not familiar with this. Last week, I guess barrage was an unfortunate choice of words. Right when we were releasing this, a flood in the pool caused catastrophic damage. Yeah. Like if you're on the internet, you've seen the videos, right? Yeah. 1000 people have been reportedly dead so far with nearly 4000 missing. The current hypothesis is that a glacial collapse so large and fast that it caused a seismic event, caused to detach portion of the glacier to melt due to friction as it fell. So there was like a seismic event. Yeah. And there was some question of the timeline, right? Did the seismic event precipitate the collapse? Did the collapse? Yeah. From what I've seen, the current hypothesis that's

2:07:29so much of the glassy of fell that it created the seismic event. Yeah, yeah, that's what I remember hearing me too. Yeah. And the most logical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seemed like it wasn't a tectonic situation here. No, it was purely as a result of the glacier degrading. Yeah. I've seen a glassy a calf before it's an incredible thing, but this is on a scale that like it's almost infathomable. There are early warning systems for flooding on that river, but the flooding move so fast that it's swamped and destroyed those facilities before they could trigger. Yeah. We're talking seconds here. Yeah. Secondly, I'm going to talk about the SDF, the Syrian Democratic Forces, which was officially dissolved on August 25th. And its forces absorbed into the new Syrian army, Manslum Evedi, the SDF being of course the armed forces of Rojava, the self-administration, the A and A.S. Yeah. And Northeast Syria. James and I both reported from there. Yeah. And I

2:08:32know it's been really an important place, an important thing for both of us. We will like break us down in more detail in another episode, but I wanted to say really briefly, Manslum Evedi made the announcement and he said that approximately 10,000 SDF fighters have been integrated into a new Syrian army. The integration that matters is the women's texture forces, the YPJ and some of the ethnic minority militias. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. The non-Kerdish ethnic minorities, the Armenians and the Assyrians and the like Syrians. Yeah. Yeah. As it seems right now, the offer is for the YPJ to integrate as individuals into the Ministry of the Interior, so doing stuff like tourism, police, border police. And it does not seem that the new Syrian government is interested in having women in its armed forces, right? Despite these particular women being some of the most capable fighters in the world have been trained by the U.S.

2:09:32and by other militaries and have been fighting for more than a decade in some cases. Right now, what they want is to remain as a distinct entity with their own structures and not to be broken up as a group of like desperate individuals. In related news, I guess they have been protested in Kami Shloh this week after the government failed to follow through on its promise in the constitution to have Kurdish be a language of instruction instead lessons are optional and three hours a week. Like this will be a disaster for people where there are generations who have grown up in Rojava where Kurdish was a language they spoke at home. Kurdish was a language they spoke at school. Of course, Kamaji Kurdish has different alphabet to Arabic. There are older generations who were educated in Arabic, right? And they're very aware of this like this difference. But the right to education in your mother tongue, when we look at like autonomous movements across the world, I am right about this from a PhD dissertation actually like this is one of the things that is considered sufficient autonomy for these sub-state national groups and

2:10:34taking it away. It's a very serious thing. No, especially since I mean a lot of these people like in Turkey it's been criminalized and there have been degrees of this in Syria under different regimes but in Turkey it's been criminalized for a long time to speak the Kurdish language. Yeah and the school textbooks have explicitly in Turkey like I mean they've written Kurds out of history, right? This moves to Myanmar where a Burmese hunter resupply convo to Bamo has been targeted by numerous FPV drones and attacks on its way up the Arawi River to resupply the town. The KIA kitchen independence army is attacking government forces there. It seems like this morning two boats seem to have surrendered and there are videos of what look like hundreds of what are probably conscript soldiers being captured by the KIA and associated PDFs. They're relying incredibly heavily on conscripts right now. I somewhat sent me some documents from a hunter officer who they captured showing that something like a single digit percentage of the troops

2:11:36under his command had been in the military before the conscription began. So they're like taking people with very little training. It's an into the front line very quickly which relates to my next point which is that Malaysia is planning to forcibly return Myanmar nationals on Myanmar Navy ships at the end of this month. We can pretty safely assume that these will be Rahinger or other Muslim peoples from Myanmar, right? Malaysia has been one of the places where people have tended to go especially with conditions being what they are in Cox's Bazaar. This would lead to those people most likely in me being conscripted if they were sent back. That's all I've got Gary. You have some stuff too. Yes, I do have some stuff because it was a big news week for White House extended universe-related news. On August 28th, Trump signed an executive order to create the country's first US space academy. The order starts by saying, quote, space is a critical domain for American national security, economic growth, scientific discovery and technological innovation.

2:12:39More details on this will come out in the next 120 days. I'm really excited to see how they're going to work in the Confederate flag into that because you know they're going to. It's that mid-meditary academy's love that shit. Trump starts the evil Star Trek. I'm then trained in this group with Canada. On August 27th, President Trump signed an executive order to rename Lake Ontario to Lake America. And as of recording, both Google and Apple maps have complied with Trump's order. This move has not received universal praise, even among Trump's followers on the right. Matt Walsh came out against this saying, quote, this will be an unpopular opinion on the right, but I think this is kind of dumb, even as a troll. Lake Ontario was given that name on maps by European explorers long before the Canadian province of Ontario was named. There are several cities in America called Ontario, at least one of them, predating the Canadian province by like a hundred

2:13:42years, because the word originates with native tribes in North America. Yeah. It is not a Canadian invention. Canadians never uniquely owned the lake or the name. So in effect, all you're doing here is actually giving them credit for a thing that wasn't theirs to begin with. Yeah, it's funny when Canadians are upset, I guess, or whatever, but Lake Ontario name itself is American history, dating back many centuries. Not sure how you own Canada by deleting your own history. Unquote. So that's Matt Walsh's long, long take on this if you are interested. Man of all the things I would think he'd break with the administration on. I right. Yeah. Okay. All right, Matt. All right. Well, because European explorers named that. I know. I know. It's just it's just also stupid. Yeah. And also, okay, it's stupid. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But America's the name of the continent. It shouldn't bother me as much as

2:14:43it does. But like Canada is a part of America. But you you understand it. The Americas. Yeah. Even if it is a troll, it's not even it. I shouldn't care that your troll sucks. Like it's it's a DG frustrating. It's yes. It's so stupid. That's the it's and even calling the Gulf of Mexico called the Gulf of America. You know, Mexico is a part of America. This do it's not a it's just not a it doesn't matter. It doesn't it doesn't matter. It's one of the most annoying things that he's that he could has done and continues to do as president. Yeah. And the fact that Apple and Google Maps is like the key to into this is just completely embarrassing. Appundent on Fox News is the five. Also did not like this. But because he was concerned that the new acronym that would be given to kids to memorize the great lakes, right? Because the acronym used to be Holmes. Right. To to go over all of the great lakes. Huh. That's the first letter of each said lake. Yeah. Yeah.

2:15:44Huron Ontario, Michigan, Irian, Spearier. What? Well for you. This Fox News pendant is concerned that now the acronym will be too close to Hamas because you have to trade the old. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. All right. If we could get a merry-go-vest Sputie in there, if Lake Erie would be there, right? I think we could we could make it to Homo. We could probably get to Homo. We could get to Homo if we can get close to Homo. We've got to be close to Homo. The next liberal president has to replace the name of Lake Erie with another over and have a Homo's like Obama. There we go. Like Obama. Yeah, that's good. Trump has also since renaming, quote unquote renaming the lake. He has also suggested changing the name of either the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean to American Ocean. American Ocean. He has also talked repeatedly about changing the name of the straight of Homo's to the straight of America. Oh my gosh. So we'll see how that works out for him.

2:16:47How's that good going for him? We'll check in later. How's that going? Yeah. How about the go to your backyard and change the name of it? This is just for clout, right? Like this is just a fucking like he's found out that he gets a lot of attention and owns the libs and yeah, yeah, creates like a new cycle whenever he does this bullshit. That's the reason this is happening, right? Yeah. That's why I don't want to speak anymore about it, but it's worth a little mention there. And for sure, Homo's to Homo is undeniably funny. Homo's for Homo's is an amazing like a fictional NGO that would come out of like a matte wash tweet. That is true. And then maybe the new daily wire plus the next film. Yeah. It's habitat for humanity, but it's habitat for Homo's. Speaking of something that could come out of a daily wire exclusive film, a former staffer for Mike Collins, a Republican con who's been from Georgia who's currently running for Senate against

2:17:48Donald Saff has been linked to a Nazi account on X the everything app. This X staffer is a 24-year-old interned for Collins in 2024. And then the next year worked as a contractor at a pro Collins pack on X this staffer described himself as a quote unquote twink fascist. Okay. Yeah. And in one post from July of this year, he used the word twink to type out the shape of a swastika. Okay. All right. I have it. I have it in the dock here. If you guys would, yeah. I totally see what is happening. How does he think that's going to end for him? I don't think he cares. Oh, yeah. I think there's a chunk of people for whom all it matters is the lulls. Right. So it would seem. Yeah. Wow. He also posted thirst traps of himself, captioned racist. That's not desperate. And also shared a grack a generated photo of himself in a clan robe. Fascinating. I never thought I'd see the day

2:18:50of like bored Nazis with too much time on their hands online. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, y'all just bored now. I mean, that's where these Nazis started. Okay. Yeah. It began and bored. Yeah. I guess to some extent, you know, it should end there. Yeah. To say. Yeah. It's it's downstream of being on the internet too much. Yeah. On Monday, Secretary of Transportation, Ashawan Duffy announced an emergency shutdown of 110 commercial drivers license schools, which according to the White House, I counted for quote more than 5,000 of the drivers who have failed English proficiency tests. On quote, so this will make it harder for people to work as commercial drivers. Yeah. We've got too many of those as it is. So that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Things going great. A federal appeals court ruled three to one. And that's Trump appointees on that court that states can regulate prediction market platforms like Kowshi as gambling. This case originated from

2:19:56regulators in Nevada, who's support from their Republican governor. Obviously, the state of Nevada has an interest in keeping these platforms regulated as gambling or kicking the platforms out of their state entirely because it's Nevada. It's Las Vegas. Yeah. The judges in this case wrote, quote, the substance of the sports event contracts offered on Calhchis exchange is sports gambling. Regardless of whether Calhchis calls them swaps. Calchis attempts to distinguish its sports event contracts from sports books betting are unpersuasive on quote. The judges also highlighted how in court Calhchis argued that its platform wasn't actually sports betting, but Calhchis had previously used that term to market its platform to users. I didn't go too deep into this, but yesterday that the first person to get a lifetime ban from Calhchis, did you all see this? No. No. Is it Trump's teleprompter guy? No, it's even funnier. It's George Santos.

2:21:01Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's back. He's for the way. For one out for Santos. For insider trade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did he bound himself getting boots down in Congress? I can only imagine him being like, oh, me, right? Oh, fuck me, right? Fuck me. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. This case here will most likely escalate to the Supreme Court. Another case which might end up going to the Supreme Court relates to this next short story, a district court judge in California ruled that Rubio's use of the NIA to deport non-citizens based on their political speech violates the first and fifth amendments. Stephen Miller reacted to this ruling by writing, quote, a district court judge says America must admit and keep foreigners who hate America and hate Americans court ordered civilizational suicide. It will not stand on, quote, yeah, very much in line with Stephen Miller's stance on

2:22:07restricting free speech in order to save our civilization. Yeah. Second to last here, I'm going to talk about a story in the Guardian. Which everyone should just read the full story. It'll be at the top of our show notes so you can check it out. Usually, they keep the small things show notes at the top. And this one will be at the top of the top because you should just read the story. Last Saturday, the Guardian reported that Trump admin has been using a quote obscure legal maneuver to try to obtain private information on journalists, nonprofits and unions, unquote, all without judicial oversight. How the Guardian learned about this is that feds tried to get a search warrant for digital information from a Minneapolis journalist named Georgia Fort and Don Lemon. The judge denied this request, citing a lack of probable cause, and the government then withdrew its request. But weeks later, DHS requested the information from Google anyway. They want straight to Google. And her the Guardian, they used a quote, administrative summons citing an arcane provision of federal law 19 USC 1509 dealing with customs

2:23:14imports, unquote. So all that was needed to send the summons was a sign off from a DHS official. There was no judge involved. Google denied the requests for information on Fort, but DHS did secretly obtain her phone records from T mobile with no opportunity for her to challenge the summons. For more information, people should read this full article on the Guardian. It has other instances of DHS using this little piece of customs law. Basically, DHS is arguing that because this involves people interfering with ICE agents, it is subject to this like customs, like duties and taxes import law, which is in cases where this has been actually argued in court has not succeeded. But they have been able to successfully get information on a number of people and have also requested information on outlets like democracy now, independent journalists and nonprofits. And this follows a few weeks ago, we reported DHS obtaining information, financial information

2:24:16on unions in Minneapolis as well. This is all kind of part of this same time zone in terms of response to operation, not your search. Lastly, for small things, and this will be a future episode probably next week. Far right provocateur Milo Unopolis was deported last week. Yeah, he shared was. After promoting ICE and deportations pretty gloriously for years and years. Talking about wanting to masturbate while ICE tore people away from their families, like he specifically and directly stated that that that yeah, yeah, I don't know. I got no sympathy for the man. Certainly not like fuck ICE, but yeah, I mean, this is Milo suffering the consequences of the world that he helped bring into existence and has cheered on for years and years and years. This, you know, this should not be a thing that we have in our country. This process should not be something that exists, but it's one that Milo wants to exist and he still wants it to exist. And his interview with Pierce Morgan after his deportation, he said that the problem is not

2:25:21deportations, but that they're just deporting the wrong people. Yeah, after saying no one deserves this kind of treatment, and he then went on to say like, but obviously some people do. Yes. But even that, like this man's treatment, he still got the like, white glove treatment. He's fine. Yeah, you, did you miss a meal, bro? Like was they handing you stuff? Yeah, maggots in it. No, he spent less than a day in detention. Yeah. And now he is free to go back in Britain with all of, you know, the money and resources that he has, he is not suffering the way thousands and thousands of other people have suffered. Yeah. Yeah. Now, DHS claims that he overstayed a visa. Meanwhile, Milo himself claims that his green card was quote unquote canceled without him knowing and that summons to immigration court were sent to an address that he no longer lives at. He never learned about the summons. That's what he's claiming. We will go over all of these in much more detail next week. Unless anyone has anything on that. I think we can do whatever. Yeah, whatever.

2:26:26It's funny. I think last time, last time me and prop talk to at length, it was about Kanye West, who Milo was working for at the time. He worked. Yep. And his is actually working for Kanye again. Yes. He started working with him again. My God. Earlier this year. Oh, good. That's what he was in Louisiana for. It looked like quite possibly. Yeah. Okay. Obviously, there's exceptions to everything. Right. But within sort of like black American culture, it's we're done talking about you. We're done. Drag him. We won't even check for you. I'm like, Kanye dropped an album and like, wait, what? Like, I don't know anyone who heard this record. Just like dropped it into a void. I was just like, this is how you know how thoroughly you burnt your brand. Like, honestly, as a person who bleeds hip hop is arguably a generational talent

2:27:29when it comes to production, sound scaping, like creating music. But it's so completely insufferable. And just just so we're just so done with you. Yeah. And your boy Milo gone as he should. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happens when you hire the man who perfected the art of the fall off. Yeah. Yeah. So we're for your company to help you in your fall off. Sir. And you can argue. He's like, he sold out five days at crypto. Okay. But that's not five days in every city in America, which is right what he was doing. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. I'll talk a little bit more about what Milo has been up to and other issues regarding his ongoing separation from his husband and questions about his legal status next week in a special episode. But for now,

2:28:30let's go to a quick ad break and then return for some more news. Okay. So 27 years ago, what are the greatest rappers of all time was murdered in front of everybody? This is two pop and the killer just now got sentenced. One would wonder, first of all, why this is so important to put it on executive order. And I have a theory as to why. But also, why did it take 27 years to solve this? And everybody involved except for one dude has been dead. So what is we talking about? So to understand his importance to this, I think we have to understand really just how singular two-pock was as a person. And I think anybody born, post his birth, it's like you weren't a part of the the monoculture that we all existed in in the sense that at some

2:29:32point in our lives, we used to all sit down at eight o'clock Thursday night to watch the same television show like across the world, you know, like yeah, yeah, yeah, that just doesn't exist. So to be a star in that era means the planet is watching you. And I think that Pock was such an enigma. We're talking about a guy's life who's like, his life would be a bad script. Like if this was somebody was writing like what he actually lived in a script, you'd be like, come on guys. Yeah, like his his last words is he was bleeding out and the police asked him who did it were something along lines of fuck you, pig, right? Like it was something like that. Fuck you, pig. Like you're talking about a guy whose godfather was Geronimo Pratt, the legendary black panther, his mama and auntie of Fanny and Asada Shakur defended themselves in federal court while she was pregnant with him. The man was clearly Jada Pekits first love, which means that Will Smith is the consolation prize to two pocket. Like that's what I'm trying to say. Like the man dated Madonna.

2:30:37He dated Quincy Jones's daughter. Like there was just genre defining films. The guy lived for lives. Like he literally lived for lives inside of the five years that he was a public figure. rapper gangster sex symbol revolutionary all before he was 26. So back story before we get this court case. So 1996, honestly, the biggest star in the world him and notorious B.I.G. two biggest rappers that rap has ever seen, right? Pock and his friends, part of death row records, Shug Knight, who was the leader of death row went to Vegas to a Mike Tyson fight. At the Mike Tyson fight, they see a man named Orlando. Now Orlando was a crib, important to the story, Shug being a notorious Compton Pi Rue blood and charge of death row records at this fight for Mike Tyson, which only lasted 15 seconds, which was why they was so bored because the fight

2:31:38was done immediately. So while they were out trying to party still kind of bored because the fight they came to see didn't happen. They run into this guy named Orlando. Now Orlando's important because again, he's a crib and a few months earlier, he snatched a chain, a death row records like gold chain from another person at the Lakewood Mall, no less, which is very funny because Lakewood is a suburb of Long Beach. It's not even like a city. It's just it's literally just a mull. So these murderous crips steal this chain from this guy. They see him and they're like, hey, that's the dude that snatched the homies chain. So him and Shug go stomp the guy out. It's all, you could see it all. It's all on surveillance footage, camera footage. They see him stomp them out. They're still in a high. They're about to go party. They want to go do their thing. The problem is the guy that they stomped out his uncle is his man named Keefe D. Keep Keefe D's name in my because

2:32:38Keefe D had a friend named zip. I know, but zip worked for P Diddy as in Sean Puffy Cones as in the worst human we've ever met. You know what I'm saying? So so he works for him. Puffy is the leader of bad boy records who's got biggie. They're in this amazing like struggle for power to be the king of hip hop. It was pretty well known worst kept secret. Puffy wanted Shug and Pock dead, right? So zip works for Diddy. Keefe D gets a gun from zip and says, you finna let that man, you know, stomp you out like that in front of the homies. We got to go get your get back. They get in the car, find out where he's going to be at the club. He's not there. They were going to give up and then some girls on the side of the road of the gas station realized that that's two pocket in the car because again, he's the biggest star on the planet at the time. They're screaming, oh my god. Oh my god. It's Pock. They go, oh, dude, it's him. He's there. Flip a U turn, roll the window down, shoot through the car, kill two pocket, right? Now all kinds of

2:33:41conspiracy theories as to how this happened because the case went unsolved, but of course it was solved. He's the biggest artist on the planet. They absolutely knew who killed this guy. It's just you didn't have enough to convict him, right? Because it's still, it's still all here say, it's still all this, the word of a bunch of cribs who all tell war stories all the time. You can't prove it, right? Anyway, they're waiting for a chance to actually solve this six months later, Biggie gets killed, right? So now you got two of the biggest stars in the world and hip hop murdered. Biggie's mom sues NYPD for not solving the case, right? Which means that, damn, we better solve this shit. Well, we kind of know who did it, but we can't prove it yet. 2008, KVD gets picked up on a drug charge, right? It's a federal case because he's doing a whole lot of drugs, right? So now the man thing to get put up under the jail, the cops say to him, hey, listen, we know you got all of them drugs, but can you tell us about what happened in 96? He was like, what you talking about? They was like, we don't play dumb. You know that we know it was you,

2:34:44right? And let me tell y'all something about this code that the gangsters have. You throw enough time at somebody. They're gonna start singing boy and Keefe sang, right? He told them the whole story exactly what happened. All the names. Let me tell you, look, this is where we were sitting in the car. This the homie, this the one who actually shot. I got the gun from this person and the gun I got from did he's homie told the whole thing in exchange for immunity. They was like, all right, we got you good, shut your mouth. Everything's fine. They would go to trial except they can't go to trial because again, it's the word of just Keefe by himself because everybody else that in the car is dead. And are you gonna press charges against Puffy against Diddy? It's absolutely you can't do it. Anyway, it had been fine right up to the sunset. We wouldn't have known until this fool got on you to and then guys and listen, it can happen here podcast team. My friends, my friends, he wrote a book.

2:35:51He wrote a book confessing all of this, right? He wrote a book. Perfect. He got on every podcast he could get on telling this story two years ago. Las Vegas PD say, hey, homie, uh, we got to charge you for murder. He was like, what are you talking about? I got a deal. They was like, first of all, your deal was with the feds, not with the Las Vegas PD number one. And number two, the deal was for your testimony to us. You just told the planet. Who what you did? You got on the internet. Hey, you told the planet, sir, you confessed to a murder. So he like, okay, well, I guess we got to do the trial started last month. The man's defense was, I need you to look me in my eyes. The man's defense was I was making that up for cloud. I was lying the whole time. We're seeing a lot of that in court these days. Yeah. Yeah. I made it up. There's not real. I made it up. They

2:36:56was like, sir, uh, we've been to put you up under the jail. So he just got convicted for murder. He was not the one that pulled the trigger. The one that pulled the trigger is dead. But he was the one that attained the gun to make sure this happened. He last one left. Okay. 63 years old. About to go to jail for the rest of his life. Now the reason why I bring this up for executive disorder is I really think this is the destiny of the Epstein case. They go away to everybody dead except for one dude and then put him in jail. That's my theory. Thomas Massey was unwitting Congress again today reading off a bunch of the Epstein co-conspirators. I'm not sure if you, you saw that bit. Yes, I did. Oh, yeah. And so what I'm trying to say is the case was solved within a week. Yeah. Like, like, everyone knows who's guilty. Now I'm not a gangster.

2:37:57Okay. I'm from here, but I do not at all report to be a member of an active gang. I don't think there's a single gang member in Los Angeles who did not know who killed two pop. Yeah. I like everyone knew who did it. But you don't talk to the cops is day job to figure it out. All right. That's your job. I'm down on my job. That's your job. That's day job to figure it out. But either way, now officially case closed to pop was murdered by KeefeD's friend who shot through the thing. And now he's going to jail for a murder that happened 27 years ago. But yeah, you know, keep fun in the police, right? Yeah. They're good at their job. They'll solve murders. I mean, not like they can't solve like a kidnapping of an incredibly famous person's mom, right? But, you know, eventually they solve the really obvious crimes if they're forced to. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's why we should be funding millions of dollars to big podcast. So we

2:38:59can continue to have people confess to murders on podcasts. Honestly, that's what we replace the police with is just podcasts. We book investor crimes. Yeah. It's just promise them 500 dollars in a Vlad TV interview. They will tell you every crime they did. That's why you take a true crime. Someone just comes on and talks about their crimes. Yeah. I think being before us to talk on the Joe Rogan experience with qualitized cruel and unusual punishment. So I don't know about that. Constitutionally prohibited. Yeah. I don't know. It's one of the amendments. Like, okay, guys, just just just just give me the time. Yeah. Yeah. So more of a story, guys, yeah. Like, hey, listen, if you were about to get away with murder, just like shut the fuck up. Like, I can't stress this enough. Listeners, he was going to get away with it. If you're going to write a book, at least title it something like if I did it. Don't say I did it. Right. It worked great for

2:40:00OJ. Yeah. You got up with the if in front first. OJ got away with murder. Like, can we just, yes, because he was like, well, if I was going to do it. All right. Back to actual death. Okay. So talking of two groups of people who keep shooting each other, let's go to Venezuela first. The United States yesterday, when we were calling this on Wednesday, September 2nd, so that would be Tuesday, September 1st, announced an oil deal with Venezuela. And when I say of Venezuela, I mean specifically with Delsey Rodriguez, the way we found out was that the President truth, quote, breaking news that parts in block capitals. The United States of America has just entered into an agreement with the country of Venezuela, countries capitalized. I'll just do the block caps on the biggest oil dealer world history that wants in block caps at my direction, Secretary of State, Mark Rubio and Secretary of War, he had access working closely with highly respected interim President of Venezuela, Delsey Rodriguez, and through a partnership with

2:41:01private business, I have secured majority US control of more than 65 billion barrels of proven oil reserves in Venezuela at no cost to the American taxpayer, this historic transaction more than doubles, that's in block caps. American oil reserves greatly increases our oil supply and will substantially lower gas prices for all Americans long into the future while helping, that's not a full stop, I'm struggling, while helping to continue to set Venezuela on a course toward tremendous success and great prosperity. This transaction will greatly strengthen the already growing relationship to the United States. Thank you for your attention to this groundbreaking matter. Make America great again, President Donald J. Trump. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the claims he's making here. We know that the United States is planning to partner with some kind of private business entity to develop oil fields. It seems like from reporting, they will take 55% of the effective output and have a right to buy oil at cost. If you remember when they first kidnap Maduro, Trump summoned oil executives to the White House and none of them were exactly

2:42:06chomping at the bit to go drill baby drill in Venezuela. That's because infrastructure is damaged and the crude oil is among the heaviest and dirtiest on the planet. They would just rather go almost anywhere else. They have to do more work to get the soil in worse conditions. I want to recap a little bit more about the United States is effectively running Venezuela as a vassal state now. It literally receives revenue from Venezuelan exports and then sends it back via private banks. There was a really good MIT article on Delci and Rubio's relationship that made the analogy that this is like a parent giving a child what do you call it an allowance, right? We call it pocket money. The United States deployed hundreds of troops to Venezuela after devastating earthquake allegedly according to this NYT report. Rubio has an effective veto on government appointments. He decides who gets sanctions waivers to work there. He and Delci send each other birthday messages and selfies. Venezuela in the meantime is quietly wound down its

2:43:09corporation with Russia and coordinated Venezuelan intelligence coordinated with the US military when they struck to end our war personnel. They have forced Venezuelan ministers to delete tweets condemning the US attack on Iran. Just for reference people, Iran has been a long time ally of the regime of Venezuela in so much as we can see. There is continuity obviously from Delci, from Adoro to Delci, but things are very much changing. Delci has run drafts of tweets past Marco Rubio before posting them. Okay. Oh boy. Sheesh. All right. When there were reports that DOJ was building a case against her, she approached him for assurance and it seems like that directly resulted in Trump's through thing. Do you remember a few a few months ago now, Trump truth how great she was and how yeah, it seems like that was the assurance that she was asking for. So it came in the form of the president posting as he did again yesterday about how great she is. The posters for public.

2:44:09Yes. What incentive does the United States have to move towards democracy in Venezuela when it is getting everything it wants and it doesn't have to deal with the possibility of the president changing of the legislature changing, right? The US is effectively running Venezuela as an informal colony. As it has done in all of its colonies, it is not inclined to give those people more rights. I would focus less on this deal and more on the fact that Trump is very clearly trying to lean on gas prices. And the reason he's doing that is what we're going to talk about next. His ongoing disastrous war with Iran. So the US this week has once again on a path to escalation in Iran. On the 30th of August, a new round of strikes inside Iran began. This followed the kind of reduced bombing activity that we spoke about last week, right? The United States says it struck launchers for rockets which were preparing to deploy mines into the state of hall moves,

2:45:13which Trump has claimed is not mined. In response, Iran launched ballistic missiles at US bases and allies in the region and a US source told Fox News that quote, nearly all of them were intercepted. Yeah. All right. Great. Well, that's good. You want to know that most of the missiles didn't make it. Nearly all is all the missiles you need to stop. That's what I want out of a missile defense system. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What it means, of course, is that the United States has used more of its interceptors, right? Which it is already dwindling its supply or the Iranians, meanwhile, struck four vessels in the state of hall moves this week, perhaps soon to be renamed the state of America. It does not seem that America has much say on what goes on there. In one incident on Monday, which I saw a UKMTO, so it's America, I'm trade office, right? That's kind of the entity, which puts out these like safety briefings to mariners. A tanker was hit with three projectiles, which is the first time I can recall in this conflict that happening, right? There's a difference

2:46:15between like we will strike your vessel to show you that we can strike your vessel and hopefully cause people to stop coming through here out of fear and hitting it three times, which seems to me like maybe an attempt to sink a vessel, right? Like that's an escalation. In response on Tuesday, first September, the US began another series of bombings with the president true thing. The United States is as we speak, striking Iranian targets in the straight-point moves. Strags are large and powerful, and then retaliation for the Iranians failed attempt to adding sea mines to the straight, which currently has no mines. They have been completely removed or detonated, and the Iranians shooting eight missiles all successfully knocked down and are military base in Jordan. If the failed nation of Iran retaliates for this very justified attack, they'll be hit again at a much higher and higher level, but it will not be the biggest attack of them all that is waiting in the wings. And when it is over, they'll be very little left as the Islamic Republic of Iran, and then he signs it. He also did another one where he said it's a failed nation. They have no eight navy, they have no Air Force or inflation's over 300 percent,

2:47:18their leadership in disarray, and then he's blaming fake news for giving you other impressions. He also tweeted a shit here, AI slop video of missiles hitting Kha'ag Island, where the observer was in a helicopter with the missiles flying over their head. It was very bad. What? Yeah. Prop, have you, have you, have you not seen this? I will drop this, I will drop this in the chat for you to watch. Yeah, let's get a live react. Okay. The video is its own thing. The caption he used for this or whoever is running his account used for this is also, I think is kind of incredible. Smytherins. Yeah. Harg Island being blown to Smytherins. President DJT. Yeah. It is interesting that that one was not signed. Thank you for your attention on this matter. Okay. That's a good point. It looks like a cutscene from like a command and conquer game. Yes, that is exactly what I thought of. Why is a person lowering themselves into the explosions. Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't understand why you would do this.

2:48:23Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be there. Who is shooting these missiles? What is happening? Yeah. There's like infinite secondaries, every like everything that explodes lands and then explodes again, like the way the AI understands explosions is, it's fascinating shit. Just on a very basic level, this is like an interesting thing for a president to do. I know this is Trump. He posts shit from his account all the time. Yeah. But the idea of a president posting of Smyther realistic, obviously we can do. There's Smyther realistic video. Another location being hit by ostensibly our own military is interesting. I just like a more advanced version of this could be an actual video that's indistinguishable from real footage. He's sort of service level glance. That's like the president saying that ex location has been hit. Yeah. I'm like, no, it hasn't. Yeah. This is kind of sloppy and bad. It's not clear he's trying to convince people that this actually

2:49:26happened. Yeah. But the very basic components of this are interesting and troubling. Yeah, from the commander in chief, it's not great stuff. Yeah. A clearly like he's enjoying watching little AI videos. He posted another one today of Lake America. Well, yeah. He's kicking the sign for Lake Ontario. He walks up. He's carrying, you know, it's a wooden sign on a couple of four by fours. He kicks the sign over at that point, one of the legs on the sign suddenly becomes short term and it's on the ground. Yeah. And then YMCA starts playing and he dances in his characteristic fashion. Yeah. It's just so embarrassing, man. He's having a great time with the Mish, the AI machine that someone gave him. Yeah. So let's talk about what these mean, right? He's clearly losing patience with this war and he's worrying about how it's going to impact the midterms. So much of what we're seeing now is like we're going to talk about other stuff with voting rights later, right? DHS is clearly winding up for the midterms in blue states. Yeah, I'll be commenting

2:50:30on that a bit. Yeah. We can see the work requirements for federal benefits not hitting until January 27. Like they are still worried about these midterms, right? Yeah. Meanwhile, they are still fucking up in Iran. I saw a video last night of a Iranian missile hitting something in Jordan. Like this was one of the ones that wasn't most of them, I guess, because it clearly impacted the ground. Iran claims to have shut down a reaper. Last night, United States missiles, not for the first time in American history hit a wedding. Yeah, we've done a bit of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was like a defining moment of for Obama's air war, right? For his drone campaign. Like yeah. When people talk about Obama and how he was a disappointment in foreign policy terms, this is what they talk about, right? Like this is the moment. Yeah. He bombed a wedding. Yeah. Yeah. We did that again. This time, weapon fragments at this scene show, I think sort of slam ER or slam ER, please email me, Navy people. Tell me how you refer to the missile. Boeing has touted it as

2:51:34the quote, most accurate missile in the Navy's arsenal. It punched right through the river this building, but the weddings are really big. Yeah. There were hundreds of people there. There are at least 50 people injured, at least five of them dead, including a child. I've seen videos where like you can see children's shoes, little tiny toddlers wedding shoes among the rubble, right? Like, yeah, it's pretty fucked up and the images that will come out of it, we will not look good. Yeah. Flannie talking about running missiles to rights. I want to speak about this. This course about this missile, this missiles generally referred to as a castle breaker. The person name is Khaibar Shakan, I believe. Castle is referring to a specific castle from like, Quranic history. And that's relevant only because this missile is designed to hit Israel, right? Like that is what this is for. It's a medium range ballistic missiles, something like a 900 mile range. Recently, though, there's been a lot of reporting that this is some kind of new and groundbreaking thing that Iran's been dropping in the last like few weeks. And they have had them for years. We know this because they unveiled it on live TV. Like, they

2:52:40literally like were like whipped like a tablecloth off it. And we're like, there it is. Which Iran does is a lot with its weapons systems, right? Yeah. And but I'll include a link to a Russia today post about it. They do seem to be likely the missiles that killed several US servicemen Jordan in July. But in part, the reason that they were the missiles that snuck through because they're the missiles that Iran uses a lot. Iranian state propaganda is making a big deal of talking about these missiles. They do this occasionally with their weapons systems, right? Then they like portray it as like, oh, the American Patriot has nothing on this missile system that we have. They are effective, right? They're smallish. They're maneuverable. And they in the terminal phase of their trajectory, they maneuver, which makes them harder to intercept, right? Like if it's, if it's just doing like a ballistic arc, then it's a, it's a math problem to intercept it, right? But if it's, it's maneuvering from what I understand that that makes the intercept more complicated. They use these insuria soon after I left. Actually, this isn't some secret brand

2:53:44new technology, but it is a technology that is effective. And like the reason it's continuing to be effective is that despite it's more than six months of war, the United States has failed to destroy their launches and failed to destroy their missile supplies, right? And that is why they're still able to strike United States bases all around the region, which they have been doing last night. And they will do again tonight. I imagine. And as a US supply of munitions continues to dwindle, this is going to become a bigger and bigger problem for the United States. What an L. Talking of big problems, we haven't done an outbreak in a while. And we're back. So at the end of March, 2026, which is I think like 37 years ago today, at least it feels like that. President Donald Trump signed an executive order to create a

2:54:45nationalist of verified eligible voters. Mail in voting would be restricted to the people on this list, which would be essentially an arbitrary list of whoever the administration thought should be on it, right? It was going to be compiled with help from DHS based on like citizenship roles. Voting law experts immediately complained this violin to the constitution for a variety of reasons. And some people have said, essentially, this is an attempt at a coup. Under the order, DHS was supposed to work with the social security administration to create lists for each state. Ballots would be given new envelopes with special barcodes for tracking and federal funds would be withheld from states that refuse to comply with this illegal order. As with many Trump executive orders, this one was immediately met by a federal judge who issued a temporary restraining order that blocked it from going into effect. Trump appealed and the whole situation remains legally unsettled to this day. Despite the fact that the order has been halted earlier this week, Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Democrat announced that a USPS whistleblower had come forth to assert that the Postal Service was still moving forward to comply with the halted

2:55:47order anyway. According to an article by the AP, quote, the disclosure from the unidentified whistleblower contains that the Postal Service has been scrambling to try and build a complex system that would normally take a year or more in only three months. Sometimes in defiance of the judge's orders halting work, the goal is to have it ready for use in the midterm elections. The disclosure contends that due to the new procedures, a single scanning error in a batch of tens of thousands of ballot envelopes could prevent any from reaching voters. It details a system that election officials have already warned could not be implemented before the first male ballots begin going out Friday and North Carolina. The Postal Service has designed a system to disenfranchise millions of Americans, Blumenthal toll reporters, and advance of releasing the whistleblower information. This administration seems hell-bent on changing the framework on casting ballots in this country clearly for political reasons. Now, for its part, the US Postal Service contends that the judges for straining orders still gave them explicitly the right to develop online tools for states who wanted to voluntarily abide by the order. Even if this is true, it's a massive

2:56:49issue because the changes mandated by the EO are hideously unconstitutional and no state should feel out to carry them out, and to make that point, here's a quote from the actual whistleblower Blumenthal. When ballots are submitted to USPS in large volume batches, if any one ballot in the batch cannot be verified against the portal, all ballots in that batch will be rejected. For example, if a state election official brings a batch of 10,000 ballots to USPS, and USPS is unable to match just one of those ballots against the portal, because, for example, someone had recently changed their name after marriage or they've moved, then USPS would refuse to mail the remaining 9999 ballots as well. That's what the whistleblower is contending about the new USPS rules regarding yes, the barcodes and the portal system. Like this is how he's describing the system as working, right? He continues, USPS expects the state to take back the entire batch to cure the issue with the single ballot. Should the slapped-dash portal mistakenly mark a ballot as unverified, there is

2:57:52no clear process by which state election officials or voters themselves can challenge the rejection. The rule simply vaguely states that they will be informed of the escalation procedures should they decide to challenge a rejection. Voters intending to cast ballots may, may not even be aware that their ballots have been rejected or were part of a rejected batch until it is too late to secure an alternative ballot or vote in person. Now, I would call this a clear attempt to steal an election or not necessarily to steal, but at least you create doubt around the midterm elections, right? This is something of a desperate hail marry by Trump and his cronies as the numbers to them have gotten much, much worse nationwide. And if individual states are allowed to do this, even if the TROs remain in place and this is halted from going for ordination wide before the election, if individual states are allowed to use this system, then we could see countless Democrat votes tossed out in red states where many dims are doing well for the first time in several election cycles. And I think a large part of the goal here, beyond just blunt disenfranchisement, is creating chaos, right? Because chaos is almost as good as outright tossing out votes.

2:58:57It creates doubt and it provides opportunity, a period of time in which the administration can set narratives about how the election went in an uncertain election night, right? That's a big part of I think why they're doing this is to provide opportunities to where they can throw doubt on the system. Here's another relevant quote from the complaint. According to the whistleblower, USPS's effort to develop and deploy the portal has been rushed, risky and haphazard, because leadership has demanded an impossible time frame and an effort to meet impossible deadlines, USPS has eliminated standard and needed testing there by creating a substantial risk of a catastrophic failure of the system that could derail the midterm elections. Quote, the teams building the new portal and accompanying IT were siloed such that when elements were brought together, the teams were unaware of various developments creating more work. There were also no clear written requirements, leaving workers to glean requirements from opaque comments and meetings. As late as August 21st, 2026, workers were still receiving new requirements for the project. Without clear guidance, different team members continue to have different understandings of how the system is supposed to work.

3:00:02Now, it's good that this whistleblower came forward and courage like this is one of if not the only ways that we're going to have a chance to catch and stop schemes like this from coming to fruition. It is too early to know what the fallout from this revelation is going to be. That is still very much ongoing. I'll just came out in the last couple of days. We'll update you on this in the future as this evolves. I wanted to talk a little bit more about some other midterm fuckery related news, some stuff that's a little bit less dark. General Dan Cain, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote in a letter to Senator Alyssa Slotkin, a Democrat early this week, promising her, quote, the joint force has no plans to send federal military personnel or federalized members of the National Guard depolting places during the 2020 elections. Likewise, the joint force has no planned to use such personnel to seize ballots voting machines or other election-related material. Now, this was in response to a request Slotkin's office, Cain, and Pete Hankseth asking for confirmation that the Pentagon would not interfere with the election by having soldiers at polling places or seizing ballots. I'd call this a partial positive story, right? It's good that he's

3:01:07saying that. It's not great that elected Democrats are so worried about this that they felt the need to ask. It's not just the military we have to contend with here because back in February, DHS Assistant Secretary for Election Integrity, Heather Honey, total elected dims, any suggestion that ICE will be present at polling locations is simply not true. And that sounded great, but on September 1st of 2026, just a couple of days ago, Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen made some concerning statements to reporters in New York City, per political, quote, the Homeland Security Secretary said that ICE isn't there to patrol the polling areas. We're there to enforce specific threats. He added, however, that reports of specific undocumented immigrants at a location could be a reason for ICE to deploy. The only reason why we would be at polling places is that there is a threat to that polling place, or we're serving a warrant on someone that we have been actively tracking down, he said. ICE's job is immigration, customs enforcement, that's their job. If we're serving a warrant, we will be where we need to be. And that does leave the door open to some degree of intimidation and focary at polling. Because we've all seen over the last two years

3:02:08that ICE regularly take being brown as a sign that someone might be in a legal alien, indeed, of tasing and arrest. And with the agency was asked for more clarification on Mullen's statement, ICE responded, ICE is not planning operations targeting polling locations. ICE conducts intelligence driven targeted enforcement. And if an active public safety threat endangered to public location, they may be arrested as a result of that targeted enforcement action. So again, what's going to happen? Yeah, sorry to say. So far, DHS and the military are saying the right things, but certainly with ICE, there remains open the possibility of some targeted ICE fuckery at polling locations around the country. So something to keep an eye on as well. Yeah. Yeah, no parts of me trust them in any way that their word means anything. And it sounds like exactly what you say. This is some sort of word judo. We're not planning to be there for the purpose of keeping the door open. Yeah. Yeah. You know, saying, well,

3:03:11we didn't we told you we wouldn't come in for the purpose. It is. We hear for that. And again, you know, I don't expect some national rollout of ICE, but there's some really close state elections and maybe, you know, there were people who were attempting to do this six years ago in 2020 in swing states, right? And like that very narrowly avoided happening through the intervention, I think of a couple of members of Congress, but like this is something that has clearly been like a I guess a strategy, right? It's not a hard one to come up with, but it's it's it's the thing that we should be really fucking worried about. Yeah. Yep. To clarify one thing regarding my reporting last week on the plans for this UPS implementation of the executive order, there was two injunctions that were dropped. Yes. Last week. And then after the USPS published the rule change, a new lawsuit was initiated by like over half a dozen states and then a judge granted a TRO

3:04:17in regards to that new lawsuit. And there will be a hearing tomorrow, which for us is September 3rd, that will determine if there's going to be a permanent injunction. Yeah. And then I'm based on whatever happens at that hearing, the Trump administration will also likely appeal to the Supreme Court. And it's it's really just a matter of like days in terms of ballots being sent out. Yeah, it's cutting it super close. And like they're they're trying to, you know, make this be very close. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Usually I can at least follow the logic of the Supreme Court, but this one I just kind of I, whether I agree with them or not, I was like, at least I understand how you got there, but they're just like, I don't know, this ain't illegal yet, but let them cook. No, this seems like some of the one of the more partisan or like some serving inch to Trump kind of type orders that they've had. Yeah. Yeah. Like okay, a little bit of our like personal information, but basically we've been waiting for the insurance to it happened already, but my wife needed a particular medical procedure. This is like prevent a stroke, you know what I'm saying?

3:05:19And so essentially they was like, well, we can't approve this, this preventative procedure, unless you already have a stroke. Let me get this straight, fam. Perfect. Okay, just say it to yourself again. Yeah. Like so you so they got it so they got a break a law before you could say what they're doing is illegal. I just yeah. That is a fair interpretation of the Supreme Court's logic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Supreme Court just said they got a break a law before we could tell you what they did is illegal. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that does seem to be where we're at. It's great. Yeah. For our final story, let's talk about data Republican. Data Republican is a relatively popular conservative influencer propagandist on X the everything app. But this isn't just a story about Twitter drama, trust me. Data Republican has almost a million followers on X that her account started to gain traction in the early days of

3:06:24musk's doge by her posts that are kind of like data journalism. I use that term very loosely. Yeah. Using using manipulated data to justify doge in a very questionable way. And now she produces content, which is essentially like open source like O sin style data journalism, four mega or a far right audience. Her bio reads, I'm just a tool builder and has a quote from musk saying that she's a worth following as well as a quote from Charlie Kirk saying, you're a must follow. Last week data Republican published a web tool mapping out thousands of antifa anarchist and left wing websites from across the globe hosted through no blogs. And as we discussed last week, the collective that runs the infrastructure behind no blogs was designated as a specially designated global terrorist data Republican basically scraped every no blogs site that was online as of last

3:07:26week and created an index of posts if they host doxing information, calls to violence, and if they have any financial information or donation links as well as quote unquote institutional affiliations to other organizations such as the splc and any connections to other no blogs sites. She describes a tool like this quote, introducing an interactive map of 7,000 plus blogs across many countries and languages, anti fascist anarchist ecological prisoner solidarity migrant border revolutionary. Every one classified geo located and searchable down to the verbatim quote verified quotes every claims a receipt their words not mine. 4,000 plus blogs pinned to a live world map zoom into your own city. Many blogs classified quote unquote operational click any blog author or cell and walk the network one tie at a time no grant funded this no client asked for it I do this for free on my own time because someone should unquote I have a little picture of the tool

3:08:31here below which was titled Trump blogs. That's what she calls her tool to search all these different sites. She has little nodes on this map that are labeled mainstream authority for groups like the splc or the adl she has another node for antifa slash watchdog research what she calls naming shops basically like you know info sites where anti fascist researchers will name fascists in their area. Yeah. She's not the nodes for movement legal defense for like official political parties mostly like international based parties and for movement infrastructures. Now a few days prior she posted a similar network map for the dsa inspired largely by Marco Rubio's Cuba conspiracy document this quote unquote dsa explorer allows you to navigate an alleged web of connections between dsa members journalists politicians and other left wing organizations other quote unquote anti imperialist organizations foreign political parties and Islamic terror groups data republican has a few

3:09:35projects like this on her website other projects include the national and them for democracy explorer quote AI generated summaries of any decent journal of democracy articles authors and NGOs unclosed perfect. She also has a database of nonprofit NGOs their employees and their volunteers and whether they receive government funding. For instance, she has pages on 92 nonprofits focused on combating hunger. Truly the worst of the worst to be documented here. Yeah. She also has a database of grant funding a 2024 voter turnout analysis and a link to her book on NGOs and USAID publish under her real name Jenna Capowns with a with a forward by doges owned big balls. Oh my god. It's he credited using his legal name there with big balls. No, he is he is credit as big balls like I like I read it. He is credit as big balls. At the bottom of the data republican website is a link to a nearly 5,000 word essay from her pastor titled the historical case

3:10:42for Christianity last April Jenna Capowns data republican became a credential member of Hague sets revamped Pentagon press core. Remember when he kicked out all his news outlets out of the Pentagon last March and replaced them with right wing cheerleaders. Yeah. Pounds admission into the press core was part of this effort. And then last month something something odd happened in the Pentagon press core. Jenna Capowns data republican accused someone from the state department of trying to entrap her into leaking old Biden era documents about Cuba by presenting the documents as an exclusive scoop. I'm going to read a quick text exchange that data republican posted on Twitter. This is her quote just to be clear you want me to leak the material you gave to me. Unredacted question mark. Happy to help your efforts. The person that you was texting to responded quote it already contains all necessary redactions. If you'd rather report on already open source stuff

3:11:46that's fine too. But I wanted to give you the option of quote unquote breaking the story as a sort of gift unquote. Okay. So as data republican Jenna Capowns posted a now deleted tweet reading it's not okay when the deep state sets you up to commit a crime. I have never been more angry in my life. Meanwhile the undersecretary of state Sarah Rogers who oversees voice of America basically government fund in media replied to pounds thread about this alleged entrapment and tried to explain that this wasn't a deep state plot trying to trick pounds into committing treason but rather a sincere offer from her Sarah Rogers to just publish some exclusive documents. Quote lol these are my text messages and documents the quote unquote markings are FOIA redactions required for voluntary disclosure to prove this isn't a quote unquote trap. I will happily disclose the documents myself here they are and then Sarah Rogers posted a thread of those documents.

3:12:51Also it's funny that she calls just redactions FOIA redactions because these were not FOIA documents but she just refers to those as right FOIA redactions just an interesting note here. Yeah. So essentially data republican just botched a scoop because of her weird paranoia because she doesn't really know how to do journalism even like administration propaganda journalism. In the midst of this shit show like this this caused a lot of drama like on like you know mega Twitter but in the midst of this shit show the far right news aggregator account America first news claimed that pounds wasn't just a pet to go on press court journalist but was actually a quote department of war employee unquote a big claim and then a few days later the Pentagon confirmed that pounds was indeed an employee of the Department of War the so called this is a statement from the DOD or the do W quote misgenic a pounds serves at the Department of War as a special

3:13:54government employee and is no longer a credential journalist at the Pentagon her press credentials expired in June 2026 and she did not seek a renewal she began working for the department in July 2026 on quote so that's pretty wild and I will invite you to return back to this map of like Antifa anarchist no blogs websites yeah that pounds created while she was a special government employee of the Department of War you know same thing with this DHS list same thing with this you know voter analysis although the voter analysis what I think was an older piece but it's still on her website but both this no blogs list and this network map of like DSA were created and published as public tools while she worked and is still working for the for the Department of War and that a few days after this was revealed the Washington Post published an article revealing that pounds was not the only right wing influencer secretly working for Pete Hague Seth this is a quote from the post quote the Pentagon has secretly installed several conservative military veterans

3:14:59with large island followings in government roles declining to disclose their assignments as they amplify defense secretary Pete Hague Seth's viewpoints and attack those who scrutinize the Trump administration on quote so according to the Washington Post at least three retired colonels who now boast hundreds of thousands of followers each on X everything have been assigned to civilian roles in the office of Anthony Tata the undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness and this office has been focusing on how to make the military less woke specifically man these influencers are listed as either special government employees or quote highly qualified experts which can work on a longer term basis than special government employees who can only work for a few months yeah and like these are influencers who are actually working on policy on military policy on how to make the military less woke while also posting on their big accounts and in major like news publications you know like the daily caller and as well as Washington Post itself one of these

3:16:00influencers had a letter to the editor published in the post like recently and so they're they're they're doing all this and posting about how awesome Pete Hague Seth is while never disclosing that they also work for Pete Hague Seth they work for a TXF great and like again Twitter sucks but unfortunately Twitter is still very consequential to national politics yeah it's one of the primary ways the administration like communicates with people and like the public like digitally and as a platform it's it's important not just to this administration but especially for the so-called Department of War right we've we've seen pictures from like live military operations that show that Hague Seth has Twitter feeds pulled up on screen while special operations are underway demand is watching Twitter like yeah like in the situation yeah yeah yeah that check in hashtags and now they're recruiting staff from Twitter including staff who are building publicly accessible tools mapping out the left yeah from you know the DSA and Palestinian solidarity organizations to and Tifa you know info blogs

3:17:04yeah and anarchist report backs that she's she's building those databases while covertly working for the Pentagon and I want to close with with this one reply she made to her posts regarding the no blogs tool quote in the course of building this website a number of anti-fascists were identified I disclose them but not on the website directly to the USA government on quote the government that she works for that she is working for yeah yeah how would you have that direct channel like when I let myself think too long about like it followed me what frustrates me about climate change is the fact that we saw it coming a hundred years ago and just watch this slow yeah slow moving death and we're like guys it's it's on its way this is where here's evidence here's what's happening it's coming if we get above two degrees Celsius up or we're above two degrees like this what we trying to it's right there it's right there I feel like that when pete access said I'm finna fire

3:18:07everybody from the press corps you not allowed to come and you're going he's gonna hire his own press people guys he's gonna they're gonna put them on there he's gonna there she works for that she works for him like it's just I it's just so this is the slowest moving cool like it's just this the slowest moving cool that you all see hey hey excuse me excuse me they're gonna hire their own press and put they're gonna send all of our names to the government oh there it is I just yeah yeah one of the one of the things that gets me the most about this is how literally days ago she was you know ranting about the deep state you know of which she is pot while she is a secret like covert undisclosed special government employee that's you see is you and you are it like people will often talk about like sia up so sia war right and they be like an individual person is a sia up and generally that that's not how psychological warfare works right but

3:19:11like yeah now they're doing it that that is that is what they're doing now like you're the thing yeah you're the thing yeah yeah it's great stuff oh and one other thing that I do want to briefly mention and this could just be a curious coincidence but late last week no blogs suffer to hack a few days after the group that runs no blogs the i a collective was declared a specially designated a global terrorist the collective publisher statement saying that the hack lasted about two hours during which the title of no blogs was changed to trump blogs and the attacker quote may have had access to the user's database now trump blogs is also what data republican calls her no blogs tracking tool now i'm not saying that data republican scraped no blogs data by hacking the website but these two events did happen around the same time which could just be a curious coincidence

3:20:16there is no direct evidence that data republican is the one who hacked no blogs and the use of trump blogs as a term isn't very original for one and could just be a sort of inside joke troll or reference but considering the fact that data republican secretly works for the pentagon i thought this is something worth mentioning coincidence or not you can draw your own conclusions that should do it for us here at it could happen here if you want to email us you can do it's cool zone tips at proton dot me pro do you have any other podcasts that you'd like us to listen to hey it'd be great actually we have a cousin podcast called politics with prop where we dive into not the breadth of topics that were covered here but a couple topics that you may make you scratch your head a little bit like i feel like what they saying is a bnc and i get to go yes you're right that's exactly what they say um so yeah tapping with me uh how politics would prop

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