J.D. Vance, Tucker Carlson & Israel: Jonathan Tobin’s Warning for 2028

0:00Joining me now is a first time guest, someone that I've been wanting to interview for some time. I've been reading his articles and editorials for some time over at JNS News and you know, I quote them a lot in my news report, World View Radio, Brennan House Live, all the different programs we host here. And there it is, JNS News. You might want to consider making it a favorite. I have it as a favorite. I've marked it in my, in my computer. I should actually subscribe right there while there we go. I just did so get those. But it's in my bookmarks because it's one of the websites I go to every day. You know, I linked to his articles quite a bit on worldviewreport.com website. And as I said, quote him in our nightly newscast, World View Report newscast. And so I'm honored to interview him for the very first time, Mr. Jonathan Estobens. Sir, welcome to the broadcast. Thanks for being with us. Great to be with you. Thank you. Great to have you with us. And I've been wanting to reach out to you for a while. But when I saw

1:00your warning the other day about JD Vance, I said, oh, I have to reach out to him. You maybe don't know this, but I have read his entire book, Communion, that came out in June of 2016. And I mean, this guy doesn't waste any time. By page 19, he's going after the, he's going after the Christian Zionist. My page 19, he's going after strong defenders of the nation state of Israel, Tim Lehigh, Al Lindsay, a lot of these guys. He's, you know, mocking their eschatology and their belief system, which for many of us dispensationalist Christians concludes our belief in the biblical and historical right of the Jewish people to the land. Some of the greatest friends I think Israel has. You know, it's just a odd book by the end of the chapter, chapter 12. He literally is talking about going to the family barrel plot and talking to the dead. It's and getting things back from them. Empathy, a strain, I mean, it's weird. So I don't know. This guy to me at many

2:06levels has got a problem. And then you had Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin. Those are some of my reasons for warning about this gentleman. Why are you concerned, sir? Well, JD Mancer is an interesting character. And let's remember he's now the vice president of the United States. He's a heartbeat beat away from the presidency. And he is at the moment, the front runner, I mean, in the way too early polls for 2028, he certainly is in a commanding position. Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, as Eddie won't run against him. And we don't know where president Trump will come down. But right now, JD Vance is the leading contender for 2028 among the Republicans. What concerns me about him? Well, I should stop by saying there are some things I do like about him. He is an intellectual. He is a smart guy, or at least when it comes to some

3:06things. And in some ways, he, by joining the Trump and Wagon in the last few years, he understands, as Trump did, that working glass Americans have been given a bad deal by the establishment in both parties, and that we needed a reset in Washington. However, since he became vice president, we've learned a few things about him. Number one, he will not break with his close friend Tucker Carlson. Now he owes Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson, along with Donald Trump Jr. really helps to aid Donald Trump to endorse him in the Senate, primary in Ohio in 2022. Remember, it's only, you know, four years ago, he was, he was nobody. He was just somebody wanted to be in the Senate. And then again, the same pair played a very decisive role in getting Trump to tap as vice president.

4:07But his position, you know, is not just that I'm going to stick with my friends. I don't believe in canceling friends because of political differences. Tucker Carlson isn't just someone with whom we might have political differences. He's the country's leading anti-Semite, arguably the most dangerous anti-Semite in this country, platforming the most vile, you know, traditional tropes of anti-Semitism in every possible conspiracy theory on his program. And you know, the vice president's position articulated at the in December of last year at the turning point USA America pass was that the idea that Tucker's beliefs are not conservative or that he doesn't belong in the mainstream of the Republican Party is laughable. Well, I'm not laughing. And neither are many other people, both Jewish and non-Jewish. Tucker is dangerous and JD Vance is sticking with him. Moreover, the network of funders, people who funded Tucker Carlson's program and they want connections to

5:11cutter, which Tucker is in love with. They're also backing JD Vance. So these are, these are, again, these are questions to be answered. Now, in the past week, JD Vance at the invitation of the Republican Jewish coalition went to Las Vegas to talk to, you know, a major Jewish conservative group and he tried to make nice. And they were eager to be made nice too because they don't want to be cut off from power if Vance becomes the nominee or the president two years from now. But Vance not only decided that this should be completely off the record, even though of course, everybody recorded it. So we know what he said. But that, you know, he didn't address any of the concerns about him. He didn't address Tucker Carlson. He didn't address the way he's become the leading critic of Israel in this administration, the way he floated, he himself floated conspiracy theories about Israel, bashed Israel, and, you know, seemed to be advocating for a policy,

6:14a switch in Washington in which, you know, he was basically trying to redo the Obama appeasement policy of Iran. So these are all serious problems with JD Vance. Again, we're two years away from the presidency. He's plenty of time to change his mind about any of this. But as with his sticking with Carlson, there doesn't seem to be much likely that he will. And I think these are all good reasons to be concerned about him. I agree with all those things. And then you then you add this here they had a fundraiser with Omed Malik JD Vance August 19, 2026 Omed Malik. All my research shows this is an active Muslim gentleman, right? It's such as that he's Muslim is that he's connected to Qatar and that he, you know, his 1789 capital firm were the ones that financed the Tucker Carlson network. That's not a small detail.

7:16Like I have no issue with the fact that he's a Muslim. I have a lot of issues with the fact that he's connected to the home office of the Muslim brotherhood Qatar, which, you know, again, it's sort of a frenemy of the United States on the one hand, it pretends to be an ally. And the other hand, it's linked to Iran and to the spread of terrorism around the world. So yeah, I have a lot of questions about Omed Malik, who I might add, who is his business partner is Donald Trump Jr. You know, which, you know, their policy is directly contradict that of, you know, Jr's father. You know, Donald Trump, you know, you can love him or hate him. He's read Tucker Carlson out of the Republican party. But JD Vance and his network of Qatar, a linked financiers, they're still sticking with him. You have an article, Jewish Democrats must fight the DSA, not tolerate it. Democrat socialists of America, we know that they have a tie through various organizations all the

8:17way back, really, to some of the same characters that brought us the weather underground. And when we read their Prairie Fire manifesto, which is in my library with a big old black clip on it over there, and I've marked it up over the years and kept it. Well, what do we see there? We see praising Mal, I'll say Tongue, we see defending the Palestinian liberation organization. We see a lot of the same ideas in that weather underground document that's, you know, in the bloodstream of the DSA today. And this really into this merging continuing in growth of the red green axis, the Marxist and the Islamist, you know, as Carlos the jackal said the terrorist, you can't bring down America without a coalition of the Marxist and the Islamist. And of course, I agree with you. No American, but certainly Jewish Democrats, they have got to

9:17join us in exposing and fighting this because these people have already told us. I mean, all I got to do is read the charter of Hamas, which I don't have to tell you, you know this, those the audience is tied back to Muslim Brotherhood, right, which is tied back to care. And you read the Hamas charter and it's the eradication of Israel, right? It's the chance, the genocidal chant from the river to the sea. But you are clearly trying to woo some of the Jewish Democrats to wake up to this. Or is that starting to happen or not? I think some of them are, I mean, you know, when you get knocked over the head with a flood jam or, you know, you can either collapse or you can do something about it. You know, the majority of American Jews have remained Democrats. We could spend a whole episode discussing why that is. I think it has to do with sort of their religion. And as I often say, politics plays the role that religion used to play

10:18in most American's lives. And that's why they're sticking with their party over their people and their faith. Well, let's understand something. The DSA, I think you're right to link it to the weather underground, the red green alliance of Islamists and Marxists. They hate America. They're at war with America. They're at war with Western civilization. The Jews are collateral damage. Jews in Israel are collateral damage. Their real target is the United States of America and Western civilization and all it stands for. They are threat to this country and they are hijacking the Democratic Party. It's not going too far to say this. And as shocking as that is, the leaders of the Democratic Party, with whom I do not agree on, you know, I don't agree with, on, on much with Charles Schumer, the Senate Minority Leader, but supposedly he was somebody who loves America and loves Israel and the Jewish people. He is Jewish. He always, you know, anybody who's covered him

11:22over the years as I have, has heard his, you know, nonsensical claim to be the Schumer, which is a Hebrew word for guardian of Israel. Actually, his name is not derived from that word, but believe that aside. And instead he's endorsing Dr. Abdul El Sayed, the Michigan Islamist who is now their party's Senate, uh, Senate, uh, editorial candidate. Um, they are attempting, you know, they are putting party not only over principle, over people, over country. That's the only thing they care about. And the DSA, socialist, Marxists, Islamists, they hate this country and they're coming for them. So yes, Jewish Democrats have to wake up. Unfortunately, some of them are not only not waking up. I wrote a subsequent column about the Michigan Attorney General, Dana Nessel, who actually gave a speech, you know, she's Jewish and she's been worried. She didn't deny that that Abdul El Sayed and his supporters wanted to destroy Israel. He said, it's okay if they destroy Israel. The Jews, the Jews

12:24should sacrifice themselves, their security, their people, their state, their very existence in order to get the Democrats one more vote in the Senate because, you know, global warming and, you know, immigrant, you know, illegal immigration. I mean, it's insane as it is immoral. But yes, Jewish Democrats have to wake up. But you know what? The whole of America has to wake up. It's not hyperbole when Donald Trump calls them communist. When he says there were threat to this country, they are a threat to this country and everything we hold sacred in terms of liberty or rights as individuals. As I said, the Jews as they always are, they're the canaries of the coal mine. But they're just collateral damage to this long march of the progressive left to take over this country to destroy everything we hold dear. And we can't be too angry about it. We can't be too awake about it. You know, this woke ideology is trying to destroy the West. We have to wake

13:28up about it to this threat. If we don't, you know, and many of us slept on this in this country. We woke up, you know, a few years ago and discovered that our colleges and universities were now like in thrall to these progressive, so-called progressives who hate this country and hate the West. And yes, they hate Israel and the Jews. But they hate everybody. They hate America too. And we slept on that. We can't sleep on their attempt to take over our government. Well, you know, we've heard that saying that they're coming for the Saturday people and then they're coming for the Sunday people, right? For sure. And I just had Robert Spencer on. And Robert was showing an article where one in five young people today support Hamas. One in five college students support Hamas. I've interviewed Alan Dershwitz several times. And Alan said to me, well over a year ago, one of the interview, you know, a lot of these young people are out there

14:30wearing the kaffir and chanting and carrying on. They were doing the Black Lives Matter thing. Now they're doing the Gaza thing, PLO thing. It won't be long before some of those students are recruited and become terrorists, much like the weather underground, right? I think there's a direct precedent. I've written that myself. When you start justifying terrorism elsewhere as, you know, the mass of these largely ignorant young people, they have no idea what Hamas is. You know, they think, you know, Gays for Palestine, Gays wouldn't last the second in Gaza. You know, it is an iron, one of the iron rules of history. When you start endorsing violence elsewhere, you'll do it at home too. It's not theoretical. It's not everyone, but there will be a certain number of them. I think it's only a matter of time. Of course, we've seen plenty of violence against Jews in this country in the last year. It's likely that we'll see more. And what we have to, you know, my message to Jews is stand up and fight. Don't don't don't retreat. Don't

15:30shelter in place. But all Americans need to understand that this violence is coming for all of us. Not just for Jews. Yeah, absolutely. We had a gunman from Saudi Arabia. He was living here in the US. He was from Saudi Arabia coming to my conference in April of 2017. And filmed it. Filmed his caron, pan the crowd without speaking was removed by the four off duty cops. I'd hired and sat out in his car made two more videos, brandishing multiple weapons to semi-ematics. They didn't do a thing about it. It doesn't sue false Al-Takota. They didn't do a thing about it. They actually told me we want you to leave town tonight. I was in my motor coach and was going to spend the night. I was going to five city tour five cities five nights. We had a full house in the hotel ballroom. And I was going to spend the night in the motor coach and move on to the next day. I'll across Wisconsin. No, we were told we want you to leave town. We'll follow you 20 miles down the road to make sure you're not followed, but you need to leave. Nothing happened for a week. Wasn't it till we turned it into a national store because the guy filmed

16:34made three videos, brandishing these. And it got picked up by the Daily Mail and I mean all kinds of outlets in America and UK, Daily Mail. That was April 2017. April 2018, I hosted a conference called Holocaust Horizon. And I warned Jews and Christians that better wake up because they're coming for the Saudi people and then the Sunday people. And frankly, this has gone faster than I expected. And it has surpassed to this point what I expected. But I'm not backing down. I have the American flag flying in front of my home and I have the Israeli flag not only flying in front of my home, but I have it in my studio as you can well see here. So I actually have the Israeli flag flying in front of my house with next to the American flag. One of my friends from Israel who lives here text me and said, it's pretty ironic. I'm actually Jewish. I'm afraid to fly the flag. You're not Jewish and you're flying it. I'm like, you're darn right. I'm flying it because I'm

17:35sending a message. I'm not tolerating this. There was another time in another history that enough quote Christians or Gentiles didn't stand up. And I understand what's going on here. And I believe Genesis 12 verse 3, I'll bless those who bless you. I'll curse you. Does that mean I have to agree everything the government of Israel does? No, no more than I have to agree with everything my government does. But I understand what's going on here. And I'm not sitting idly by. So yeah, I flagged Israel. I fly the American flag and I fly the red it the blue and the white Israeli flag. And I don't know what my neighbors think. I don't care because I make you a statement about what what me and my house believe. You want a comment on any of that? Yeah, I think well, number one, good for you. Number two, let's we've seen what happens when the authorities in a country can be cowed by Islamists. Just go go to Britain. See how that looks. See how that works. That's where it has become a reality. If you question this,

18:39you know, the mass Muslim demonstrations threatening Jews go on, unabated and Jews who speak up, they're told to go away. We can't let that happening in the United States because the United States is different. You know, I'm a great believer in American exceptionalism. That's why Jews have always been safe here. We've always been equal partners as all faiths are. We have to fight for that exceptionalism and the basic cause of the DSA and the Islamists, you know, the red green alliance is to destroy American exceptionalism. They want us to be like Britain, like Europe where Jews have to be afraid and where lovers of liberty have to keep their mouths shut. That can happen here. We can't allow it to happen and the only way it won't happen is if we all continue to speak up and fight for what we believe in and don't let these people take over our country. They've taken over our schools, but there's no mistake about that. But they,

19:43you know, they haven't yet taken over our country. And, you know, when I think of all America has accomplished in the last century, you know, defeating Germany twice, defeating communism, fascism, Japanese imperialism, and then Soviet communism, the idea that we're going to let these woke ideologues destroy our country that, you know, AOC and Abdul-Elsaid are going to do what Hitler and Stalin failed to do. I don't believe it, but it's going to require a lot of effort by ordinary Americans and people like us continuing to speak up. Indeed. Final question, sir. They've taken over the educational system. You know, it's been the long march through the institutions, but I have to tell you, I was born and raised in a very involved Christian evangelical home. My father was with the government. We lived in Washington, DC in some very formative years of

20:47my growing up. My parents spoke to me early and often about history, the Holocaust. You know, I was very aware as a very small child about Cory Tim Boom's story, The Hiding Place, which permeated the evangelical world thanks to the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. I became, you know, very much ingrained in these in my Christian school that made sure we saw the real, real footage of the Holocaust and understood it. So I have been raised in the evangelical world, knowing many of some of the most well-known evangelical leaders in the country, many who have since passed away. But I have to tell you, I don't know if you monitor it like I do because this is kind of the world I came out of our, our, our, in really on 75 Christian stations today, solid Christian network that stands in the same Christian Zionist position I'm in.

21:49But you talk about them taking over the schools. They're taking over the churches. They're taking over the denominations. What were once strong Zionist church denominations that understood the historical and biblical right of the land of the Jewish people is now being swamped. They're taking down evangelicalism. Do you do, are you, are you, I know you're aware of it, but to what degree are you aware of it? Are you, are you as concerned about this because the church in America is the last line that Islam, I had two former CIA people at my dinner table in my home a few years ago. One of my right, one of my left, I had just written the book, Marxianity in 2018. And I was discussing my frustration with the evangelical world and the evangelical camp. And I said, you know, maybe I should just go back to secular radio where I started. And both of them to my surprise, one in atheist,

22:53one kind of agnostic said, you can't do that. And I said, why? And they said, because you're speaking to the last line of defense, you've got to keep speaking to them. One in atheist, one, an agnostic former CIA both saying, no, this is the last line. This line falls, the country's over. Speak to this in conclusion, please. Well, yes, I am worried about the way that the, the left has infiltrated the evangelical movement. It's a real threat. But that's why we have to keep fighting. We can't let them, we can't fall asleep the way the secular world did with what happened in our universities. And even in the K to 12 schools, we have to speak up. We can't tolerate it. Families have to speak up if their children are exposed to this. You know, I speak to the Jewish community as well as the non-Jewish community. You know, we all have to be aware of the stakes in this battle. This is not a minor political disagreement. This is about the future of Western

23:54civilization. They are coming for us and they're coming for our country, our constitution, our liberties. That's what that's what's at stake here. And so we have to continue to be aware of it, to keep fighting. This is, this is not something, you know, politics is an aspectary sport. We have to be involved. We have to fight for our synagogues, our churches. And, you know, if we don't, we see, we see what happens. We see the results once we start tolerating it. But, you know, I have great faith in the American people in, you know, in our, in our destiny as a country. I have great faith in, in our, in my evangelical friends, to be able to resist the forces trying to subordinate them. I believe that we, with perfect faith, as we say in Hebrew, be a Munozhalaema, with perfect faith that we will in the end with God's help win. And I have, but it's going to take a lot of effort, a lot of awareness. You know, we have to arm ourselves with the facts, with history.

24:54But most of all, the thing that we need most is courage. Without courage to speak truth to power, without courage to stand up, you know, we say often in the Jewish world that the essence of being a Jew is refusal to bow down to the idols of popular culture, whether it was Hellenism in the Age of the Maccabees or Wokeism today. That's what we must all practice. That's what we must all do. Yeah, 100% agree. And folks, I hope you'll visit this website right here, jns.org, jns.org, Mr. Jonathan S Tobin, and you click his name, it brings you to all his articles. And of course, all the other news stories he and his team are covering. I hope you'll visit it. Do what I do. I visit it every day, market as a favorite, jns.org, jns.org, Mr. Tobin, I hope you'll come back. Thank you for being with us tonight. I hope you will. Thank you. Thank you. Mr Tobin checking in tonight, jns.org.

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