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Many of his scientists on tape years ago saying he believes that anybody who is not a Muslim is like cattle
Yeah, he's on tape saying this and this is no joke. These people are basically animals to him
You don't have to treat animals with any respect
You don't have to tell the animals the truth all you have to do is just treat them with whatever you need to do to have your ends met
So he goes to the UK and he is you know this huge journalist in the UK
You know it's lambasting the right wing and very pro immigration and he drives for that agenda
And now what is he live? Who now he lives in America and he's doing the same thing
And he's at the left wing protests saying how great immigration is and how Trump's are fascist
This guy is a Muslim subverteur
He is a pawn for Islamic immigration into the West
All right guys we got Jake of rattlesnake tv here all the way from Australia man
Literally just fluent now you must be exhausted
Yeah, I've just done like a 24 hour flight that I was seeing how we go
I just have one of Rick Flair's energy drinks
Yeah, let's go baby
I'm taking that flight next week so I'm excited
And I'm going to give you a whole itinerary list
You said you don't have many places
Just the zoo, Steve Irwin's zoo that's it
Yeah get that out of the way the zoo and then I'll give you the real stuff
I need good food I need good stuff
You want to go to the mountain towns as well
You want to go see some of the beautiful mountains of the beach towns
Yeah, I got you bro
But you're ready to leave huh you're ready to move out here
I think so man I think so I've been doing it over the last few months from Oz
And it's me and Andrew had our extravaganza show which is four times a week
And it's at 7am for me so normally I like to have a good morning routine and everything
So that can be a bit difficult but then obviously just
Lying up time with guests and everything
Yeah
Individual is really hard and I want to create a studio like this
Yeah, did you show it?
What cities are you looking at move if you potentially move out?
Probably go Dallas
Dallas
Yeah, Texas is solid
How did you and Andrew Wilson get close and how did you start the show and build out
Relationship
So I actually saw him I don't know if you've ever seen the debate that he did with Matt Diller Huntie back in the day older one
Yeah, yeah, so that was the this sort of real
That was his sort of launch pad that debate he was doing heaps of stuff before then
But I'd never seen his work and then I see this debate with Matt Diller Huntie
Where he gets out there and he just rips this guy's world to your part in the opening statement
And I mean this was just brutal
And by the end of it you can see Matt Diller Huntie getting really scared and nervous
And looking at the moderator and texting the moderator
Wow, and basically just looking for a way out
And so it gets to Matt Diller Huntie
And he basically says well he was mean to me and he was attacking me personally
Which he wasn't really he was attacking his arguments
And a part of that is is you
And then he just bailed out and he said I'm not going to do this debate
And I was just like wow, so I made a video on it
And I said you know I can understand some people might not
Think that the way that he communicates is overly tasteful
I don't really care about that
Tell me in the comments why you think he's wrong
No one could tell me
Wow
Then I reached out to Andrew and I was like do you want to come on the channel
So then it wasn't like a combative interview
But I was sort of prodding him about his world to you
Because I was definitely less
I was more moderate at that stage
And then he radicalized me
I was you over
Yeah he did
I was more moderate at that stage
And then when I spoke to him
It just made more logical sense to me
And a lot of the Christians that I'd sort of interacted with
I liked their message fundamentally
We have a lot in common
But I found a lot of them very ineffectual
If I'm honest
And a lot of them were very like doing a lot of tone policing
And a lot of self glazing
And it just seemed like very performative
It didn't really seem very authentic
But then with guys like Andrew and Jim Bob and Jay Dyer
We can have a beer
You know, together we can have a good time
But we can we also have very similar world view
And it's not so like taking yourself so seriously
And I think people just relate to that a lot more
That makes a lot of sense
You had a pretty established channel before you interviewed him
Yeah, yeah
I think I was already up at like maybe 600,000
So that's the best stage
For Australia, that must be massive
Yeah, definitely be one of the bigger ones
I mean, you've got myself
You've got Isaac Butterfield
If you know him
At the Barcelona
He's a comedian
Who sort of commentates on social things
You've got a guy called Friendly Jordy
Who has a big political page
But then otherwise
There's not really much out there
Yeah, so I think the US is definitely the next step for you man
Yeah, well I mean it's like
I like to compare it to playing NVA versus in the NBL
Like if you're a basketball player
You want to go to America
I'm playing the NVA
You don't want to stay in the NBL
So I mean I already sort of sort of play in the NBA myself
But I just need to actually move over here
But then it's the whole visa situation
Which is really difficult
Yeah, you got to find a wife man
That's it man
If anyone knows anyone
If anyone knows a good Christian girl
Under 25
Send in my way
What's dating been like
Have you attempted international relationships
Or do you date for the most part
Girls that live in Australia
I can't date Australian girls
Oh you can
Yeah, because
There would be some good ones out there
But it's just
You know one of the things that Andrew told me
Which was quite funny
In our first interview
Was he was like
Man
The feminism
It's in the water that you drink
And the air that you breathe
And I thought
That's so true
Is that bad in Australia
It's that bad
Why it's that
I thought the US was the worst
No, no
US
Australia is way worse
You serious?
Yes, Australia is way worse
The US has a big Christian base still
Like there's a lot of Christians in the US
You're still a very Christian country
You can go to a lot of places
And they've got these big conservative communities
And lots of Christians
And people sort of think the same way as you do
Like when I come over here
I'm like
It's like a breath of fresh air to me
To be like
Oh yes, I go get to go hang out with my best friends
Wow
But in Australia
If you tell somebody that you're anti-abortion like I am
They'll look at you like you've just said
That you want to genocide women or something
Holy crap
Has it been like that your whole life
Or is that a newer movement
Well I mean I've like I said I was more moderate
In my early 20s and everything
But then I think as you go down the logic tree
And as you sort of go down
And take this worldview to its logical extent
There's only
You know you can only hold off on these arguments for so long
And they're very controversial and everything
But if you're looking for the truth
Then that's an argument for me that
There's just
There's no justification
To be a pro-abortion
From a secular worldview or a Christian worldview
But anyways arguments like this
And having a worldview like this
People think you're some sort of a schnazzy
Or something like that
Do you feel like you can fully speak out over there
Do you feel like there's repercussions
When you talk about certain topics and all that
Oh there's repercussions yeah
Even after people out of there
Oh yeah man
Yeah sure
So you're in crack
Because I know Canada does that
But I never heard Australia doing that
Yeah man they'll destroy a lot over there
She is
Yeah it's bad
So have you been like shadow band or demon times
A lot of things I mean this weird space
Where I commentate a lot on American politics
I don't get that involved in Australian politics
I don't really get involved with these marches
And everything
There's a lot of big protests
That have been happening in Australia
In terms of anti-immigration marches
And I'm all for it and everything
However I do know that there is
It can be a little bit ashroturf
There is a few
Nefarious bits of funding going on behind the scenes
And all that sort of stuff
So there always is right
Yeah yeah so I'm sort of
Keeping it at arm's length if you will
But I'm in this weird space where I'm not really
Like I'm big enough to be
To for them to care about
But not big enough in the Australian scene
For them to really go after me like that
Yeah interesting
Yeah yeah that's very fascinating
It seems like a lot of countries are having an immigration issue right now
Man it's crazy
Yeah it's like I thought it was just us
And then I read other countries dealing with it on the news
And I'm like this is everywhere
Europe is
He's absolutely horrible
Yeah you just went there right
Yeah what was out like
Man if you're
What's your what's your go-to background
I'm half Irish half Chinese
Half Irish half Chinese
Yeah I've been to Ireland, been to UK
Actually no I haven't been to the UK
I flew in there
I heard it's bad out there though
Ireland's one of the worst
Oh Ireland is yeah
Wow
Yeah
Ireland they've got
Hundreds and thousands of migrants just being shipped in
Regularly by all of these NGOs and everything
So there are some things
Absolutely
Ireland is one of the worst in the entire
In the entire European continent
Because
Have you seen recently they've had massive protests at
And I'm not sure how much I can say on this
In terms of words and everything
If you guys have to beep things out
We might beep the crossing
But I can
Well there was recently
This is just one example
There was a huge riot in Ireland
Because there was a little girl
Who was in the
Like a government care
In one of these government agencies
And she was abducted and raped
At a migrant facility
So they have all these
Facilities where they keep the migrants
Whether they're nice hotels
Or whatever else
And these migrants will just stay there
And they'll let it go wander around
Throughout the day
All on taxpayer dollars
A 10-year-old girl
Was brought into one of these facilities
Abducted rape in the facility
Girls
And then the Irish people just
Started losing their minds about it
I mean as you would
And started writing
Started just doing all kinds of things
But this seems like a monthly occurrence now
That's terrible
I just went to Austria
And went to Vienna
You know, Vienna is like
The height of European culture
When you think about
You know, classical music
And when you think about
You know, sophistication
And high society
You think Vienna
Motes art, Beethoven, Strauss
You know
Um
It was just
Crazy because I went out of the old town
Into just
A normal suburb
And the churches that I went to this one church
Called the Church of Saint Anthony
It was a video of me doing it
And it's just
Completely and utterly
Desecrated the whole way around
Oh my god
Yeah, but it's awful
Man, it was terrible
And this is a place it's called um
I can't remember what
Frit-
I can't remember what the suburb's called
But um
It's
Completely Islamafide
You barely see any Austrian people there whatsoever
And these Muslims are just all around the church
Using it as basically a recreational area
Holy crap
Yeah, and then I posted that video
I got millions of views on
On Twitter and on Instagram
And I heard all these Muslims coping about it
Making videos
Saying I'm some sort of like a Zionist
Chill and it's like
Man, like
There's no accountability
That's terrible
It's a shame because when I was in high school in college
I always looked forward to doing like a Europe tour
When I was older and could afford it
And now it seems like it's kind of dangerous
Oh yeah
If I want to hit like a bunch of countries in Europe
You got to move really smart
Yeah man
Yeah, so there's a
YouTuber called Qaz
I'm sure
You know Qaz
And he does Latin America
He's been to all different places
He gets an Nicaragua
And Guatemala
And Columbia
And Venezuela
And doesn't have any security
But then when he went to Europe
When he went to Brussels
When he went to Paris
And these places
He has to get security
Wow
And it makes sense to me
Because I've been around
Latin America as well
I've been around
At Columbia
Argentina
Peru
Bolivia
Ecuador
All these places
And you can move pretty good
But then when you get to Europe
And when you go to the Islamified parts of London
And Islamified parts of Vienna as well
You don't get families coming over there
You get military aged men
Coming over
So these are the
You can imagine
Who's coming over on the boats
For economic opportunities
Not children
It's not women
It's men
Because oftentimes
These guys come from Arabic societies
Which have
High rates of polygamy
You know
And they have a big underclass of men
Who have no access to women
So like Donald Trump one said
They're not sending their best
They're not sending their best
But yeah
So you get a lot of these guys
Military aged men
Who are coming over to these countries
And just reaping all of the social benefits
Social welfare
And they see these white girls with
Their legs out
And they're like
Essentially they think of those girls as halls
Right
Because in their country
And where they're from
That's just not allowed
You know
They have burgers and everything
So they come to a European country
And they see a Swedish girl
Who's just half naked
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I mean, we could go deeper into that as well
If you wanted to
But in Islamic culture
That's essentially the spoils of war
Oh my gosh
Do you see the spread of Islam as a measure threat
To the West?
Major threat
Major threat
In America, not so much
But I do think that they have to be very careful
When you look at places like Dearborn, Michigan
And when you look at places like
Is it Minnesota?
Where the Somali and guys running for office
And Dearborn, Michigan is basically
New York City too, right?
With Mamdani
Yep
So what happened in the UK
Was that the left wing
The conservatives in the UK have been pretty bad with this too
But the left wing governments are terrible for this
You guys like Tony Blair, the Labour Party
The Labour governments
They're very pro-immigration
They're very pro-EU
So the way that the European Union works
Is that they've got a European parliament
And you can elect representatives from your country
To go to Brussels
Which is where the European Union meetings are
And then they make decisions on behalf of Europe from Brussels
So you've got a few representatives
But then you have to compete with all of the other representatives
So you basically lose your sovereignty
When you're a part of the European Union
So then the European Union
We'll try and tell England
Or we'll try and tell Poland
Or we'll try and tell these other countries
Or you have to take X amount of Muslims
Or you have to pay this amount of money
And the Hungarians
They said, well, we'll just pay the money
But they try to do the same thing with England as well
And so that this is one of the reasons why England did Brexit
But they tried to leave
The European Union
Even though it's been reasonably ineffectual
The spread of...
Back to your question though
The spread of Islam
Is hugely, hugely concerning
Because what happens is they will go in
And they will use the left wing governments
To get them all in
But I mean
Anybody who knows anything about Islam
Know that they're not exactly liberals
They're not exactly liberals
The way that they think
But the liberals are the ones who enable them all to come over
And then you've got guys like Medi-Hassan
I know you
Medi-Hassan
Medi-Hassan is on tape
Years ago
Saying
He believes that anybody who is not a Muslim
Is like cattle
What?
Yeah
He's on tape saying this
And this is no joke
Wow
These people are basically animals to him
You don't have to treat animals with any respect
You don't have to tell animals the truth
All you have to do is just treat them with whatever
You need to do to have your ends met
So he goes to the UK
And he is, you know, this huge journalist in the UK
You know, he's lambasting the right wing
And he's very pro-immigration
And he drives for that agenda
And now he lives in America
And he's doing the same thing
And he's at the left wing protest
Saying how great immigration is
And how Trump's a fascist
This guy
Is a Muslim subverta
He is a
He is a pawn
For the Islamic immigration
For Islamic immigration into the West
And he works for Al-Jazeera
Who is like a Qatari media company
I mean, it goes deep now
I have seen Qatar funding certain people though, right?
Yeah, yeah, it is a little concerning
Especially if these people are living in America
Yeah, yeah
I think Americans sleep on the Muslim threat a little bit
In Europe it's sowing your face
Yeah
But they do have to be careful in America too
I mean
Well, if they take over Europe
I mean, they're coming out through us next
Let's be honest
Yeah, but America will be the next target
Yeah, I think that we're going to see a big civil strife in our lifetime
For Europe
I think that we're going to see a huge civil strife
Because
If you look back at the history of Europe
It's a series of conquests
And then reconquests
Between Christians and Muslims
So you have the Ottomans who invaded
Yeah, so you have Islamic caliphates
Who came in and invaded Europe
And they'd taken over
You know, parts of northern
Northern Africa
Like Algeria and Morocco
And these places
And Spain and Portugal
And then after years and years and years
Of Islamic aggression
That's when the Crusades started
That's when they decided
They had to do something about it
And push these Muslims back
Right
And then you look into the, you know, the
Battle of Vienna for example
That's another one
You look into like
Battle of Budapest
I was just there and I was
You know, looking at all of the
History of how the Ottomans came
And conquered Budapest
And they occupied Budapest for a long time
And eventually
The Holy League had to get together
Which is
The Polish and the Hungarian Empire
And even the Greeks and Italians
They got together
And they were like, listen, we have to do this for Christendom
You know
Put out differences aside
We have to repel this Islamic invasion
For Christendom
So there's a lot of historical context there
And right now we're at the stage
Where the Ottoman Empire
Could only have dreamed of having this many
Muslim
Military age Muslim men in Europe
It would be their wet dream
To see what has happened today
There's what, two billion, I don't know
Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't
Two billion, I think, in total
But I mean, just the amount of men in Europe
Living in Europe
That's, that those are assets
Right, if you think about it
Because the way that Muslims view the world
Is you have Muslim areas
And then you have combat zones
Right, so you have Muslim
Places that are run by Muslims
These different places in the Middle East
And then you have combat zones
And you know
Don't really say this as much
But that's just the way it is with them
And you know, when they go to a different place
This is not like
URI being an expat to a different country
And being like, oh yeah
We're going to go and move to
Let's say we're going to go to move to Jeremy
We're probably going to eat the
The German food
And we'll probably, you know, drink the German wine
And we'll be expats
They view it that way
Yeah, they view it as like a slow conquest
Because ultimately, fundamentally
What they believe is that
Allah is the truth
And they believe that Muhammad was the last prophet
And then this is the last hope for the world
So if they go and they spread Islam around the world
They are doing the work of Allah
That is so crazy to me
Yeah, so they really think that way
When they move somewhere now
Of course they do
Yeah, wow
Yeah, so they're playing the long game
Oh yeah, big time
That is really interesting
Have you, I know you're into debates
Have you debated any Islam yet?
No, I haven't debated any Muslims
I mean, I wouldn't
I don't think I'd be well
And I've versed on their theology
To really debate them and get into the nuances
But in terms of what's better for society
Christianity or Islam
Yeah, I would love to debate that
That would be
I'll try to set that up for you
Yeah, for sure man
Next time you're here
I've been doing a lot of religious debates
It's very interesting
So you've been Christian your whole life
I haven't, I was only
Well, I mean, I was born and baptized to Catholic
And I went to the Catholic school
But I'm not sure about your background
A lot of people have a similar story
Where they grow up
And they do our fathers
And all these sorts of things
And it's just kind of meaningless to you
Yeah
But then you get older
And then COVID is what really
Redpilled me about this stuff
Because
I was a big atheist before that
While I was in my early 20s
I was one of those reddit atheists
They were like
Oh, you believe in a sky daddy and stuff
And I worked at the Salvation Army
So I worked at a Christian organization
For a few years
And I would always make fun of them
And I would always be like
You know, you believe this guy walked on water
You believe he came back from the dead
And none of them had an answer for me
So I thought that I was too smart
And then the COVID stuff happened
And I started to perceive
What I could only describe as evil
Going on
And I started to look into the structures of it
And what was really happening
And especially the herd mentality
And you sort of
Started to realize
I know it's kind of a bit corny at this stage
But you sort of started to realize
How totalitarian regimes
Can come to power
Because everybody just follows
And people are so malleable
They're like sheep
On a mass scale
Like that mass formation psychosis
So I started to see all of that
And I'm starting to think
Wow, that's evil
But do I believe in evil
What is evil
You know
If I'm an atheist
Enough, I'm a materialist
And if I just believe that
Everything is just like material
And if I
All I am is just a complex series of atoms
And newtons and proteins
And if I lift my arm like this
It's only because of the complex process
It's not because I have a governing faculty
It's just the process
So if I really believe that
And what is evil
I can't put my finger on evil
I can't put it under a microscope
So I'm talking about something
It's purely metaphysical right now
So if evil does exist
Then is there an opposite
And if there is an opposite
Then what is that
And obviously
The
Typically that would be God
You know, for a religious person
And a few people I really knew and respected
Started to come into my life
And
And sort of talked to me about Christianity
Which was new
A guy that I really respected
His name is Stephen Shavira
He's a historian
I asked him
What do you think is the most
Important thing for a young man
To try and do to live a
Like a meaningful life
And he said
Just look into the life of Jesus Christ
And follow it
And I was a bit taken aback as I said
You're like a smart guy
And you believe in
You believe in that stuff
Hmm
And then so I started to go down the path
And you
What was it like you had the Bible
You started going to church again
Now I've come to it
Purely through logic
Oh god
Yeah
So that's the really interesting part about it
I think that there are a lot of
Very sophisticated
Logical arguments
For God
First of all
And also for Christianity as well
So
Like I said before
I think materialism is
Observed on its face
Because materialism
It posits that we are just material
You know
That we are literally just material
And there are a lot of things
That you just can't explain
From materialism
You can't explain consciousness
From materialism
Right
You can't explain love
From materialism
Or any of these things
You'd have to say
Well that's just like a chemical reaction
That's just
That's unsatisfactory for me
Consciousness
As much as atheists will try
You can't explain consciousness
The materialism
That's true
You can't explain out of body experiences
You know
So there are a lot of things
That I find very convincing
And also
You know Christianity is
Based on this
And I go through my own little rabbit hole
Sometimes I haven't
I've probably need to run these
By a natural theologian
But also Christianity
Is based upon the notion
That love
Is like a
Is the governing
Factor of
Of our life
Right
Everything is sort of
Run on this notion
Of love
In a sense
Okay
Jesus loves you
And
It's like
We have to love each other
As we want to be
To treat each other
As we want to be treated
Love your neighbor
Love your enemy
Etc
And when you really think about that
It's like
If there is a God
Say we can just sort of
Grant the presupposition
That there is a God
You then have to ask yourself
Well is that God a loving God
Or is that God
A vengeful
Malicious
Capricious God
Well I think that logically
It has to be a loving God
Because if it was a
Capricious God
Well then
Everything would be
Run
On the same sort of principles
On hate
And on fear
And all these things
But it doesn't seem to me
As though that's the way
That the world rounds
It seems to me
Is that the world rounds on love
Like we have to love our children
For them to be fruitful
And multiply
We have to love our neighbor
We have to
You know
And if we do
Love our enemy
That's the ultimate way
In which the world
Like can you imagine
If everybody really
Truly tried to show love
For their enemy
Or for for gives their enemy
Can you imagine
How much that would change things
Like
I almost can't even picture that
Yeah
Honestly
Yeah that just like
That's the hardest thing
You can possibly do
If you've ever really
F***ing hated someone
Yeah
That's why when I saw
Erika Kirk forgive the murder
I was here
I was
Brought to her in my eyes
Yeah
I don't see that often
Where people can do that
Yeah
And like
You know
I'm sure
Everyone has had things
That have happened to the
So fucked up in their life
And they think
They can't be a god
Because that's just too
Like why would god
Allow that to happen to me
Why would god allow that to happen
To my brother, my mom, whatever
It's a strong argument man
Like we have to really wrestle
With those
With those arguments
But is the answer
Malice
Is the answer
Revenge
Because where does that get us
If everything is based on a cycle
Of Malice and Revenge
Where will that get us
Yeah
Have a look at the 20th century
And have a look at what the communists did
And you'll see where that gets you
We'll see where that gets you
Agreed
Do resentment and malice gets you
Yeah
Do you believe in some sort of form of karma
I know that's not really a Christian thing
But like do you believe like
When you do good, you'll get good back
I've always found it's an interesting
Idea karma
Because
I think that karma is sort of
Logically makes sense to me
I don't think it has to be some sort of
Like a Hindu principle
I think that
If you're a good person
If you treat people well
Then that will come back to you
I've never met anybody
Who's honest
Hardworking, diligent, caring, respectful
Who doesn't have a pretty good life
Unless they're incredibly unlucky
But even generally those people tend to handle
Hard times
Pretty well
As well
But whenever I see people who are
You know dishonest
And who are just
You know
Trying to hurt other people
And trying to step on as many heads as possible
Those people don't maintain good relationships
Those people don't have a very good spiritual life
Those people generally tend to
Go from place to place to placing
And can't really stick with a friendship group
Or
Or something like that
So
The whole idea of karma to me has always made sense
In like a
In like a logical way
Rather than a spiritual principle
If that makes sense
Same here, yeah
Even though I don't time myself to Hinduism
I feel like karma just makes sense to me
Yeah
And I've noticed it in my own life
And with other people too
Yeah
It could be my particular activating system
Just picking up on it though
You never know because we're so biased as humans
Yeah
We're constantly looking
For validation on our beliefs
Yeah
So to be objective is a really tough thing these days
Yeah man
You know what I mean
So many people are just going to
Focus on what they already believe in
Yeah
Yeah
I think so
I mean you see that a lot these days
That's why I like debates though
Because debates you see both sides
If you come in as a viewer with an open mind
You can really learn a lot I feel like
Man I could not agree more
You asked me before how I got to Christianity
And that was probably the main way
To be honest
Like I've never had any sort of a real spiritual
I've had some things with prayer
That have been very
That have sort of like
You know blown my hair back a little bit
You'll be allowed
But logic has been the thing
That's really gotten me to this
And even I think that the god of the gaps is a really good argument
So the god of the gaps argument
People make fun of this a lot
But
Um
There are so many things that we can't explain
Like we were talking about before
Consciousness
And we could there's so many things that we just cannot explain
But if you put god
If you accept that there is a god that exists
Then so many things
So many more things just like make make sense
So anyways
There's that
But um
What was the question you got with the gods
Oh it was a debate format
That's right
Debating
So um
I'm very like
You know logic brain
Like this
So I started to look into it
And just really try and have an objective look
Into it and like what do I what do I believe
And then just ruthlessly attack what you believe in
That's the best way to do it
Because if your belief can stand the test
Of a ruthless attack from many angles
Then you you might be onto something
It's probably going to be bullshit at the end of the day
They might be onto something right
If you can do that to yourself though
That's a really good skill to have
Grace
So if you can have thought and be like I believe x
All right
And then if you can and I do this to myself all the time
I'm into I'm going to have it now after spending
Enough time with Andrew
Where um I'll just be in the shower
And I'll just I'll have a thought
And I'll be like
What do I think about this idea
And then I'll start attacking it
Every single different angle
And trying to rip that thought apart
And if it stands the test of that
And I'm like okay
I might be onto something here
I might be able to apply this
Yeah he just told me before we filmed
All of my beliefs are not true
Yeah
Yeah
Objectively
Yeah well I mean philosophy is for the most part bullshit
Yeah
Like all these beliefs
When you really think about it
Came from somewhere else or someone else
They're not your actual beliefs
Yeah
Right
You didn't create these
Yeah
Yeah
Now I got asked that the other day
By Jesse Lee Peterson
He goes to me
Do you make your own thoughts
And I was like
It's like kind of like making a sandwich
Well the ingredients are there
And I can use the different ingredients
And make myself a sandwich
You might be a shit sandwich
It might be a pretty tasty sandwich
But I didn't actually make any of the ingredients
They were I've bought them from the shop
They've done studies on the
Where thoughts come from
And like what percentage of it
Is conscious for subconscious
And I believe on majority
Subconscious thoughts
Yeah
Which people don't know where that comes from
Yeah
Makes total sense
Crazy right
So like I think it was
Close to 90% of our
Thoughts are subconscious
Yeah
That makes total sense
So we're not really in control of our thoughts
At all
Yeah
Have you ever
Like looked into some of the work
And what some of the more mystical work
That I've looked into
Of like Kali Young
And the archetypes of the unconscious mind
And this sort of thing
Yeah
So you've
Archetypes
Which is
And like Disney movies are based upon a lot of these archetypes
Which is sort of these like
Narrative structures
And ideas that we just
Fundamentally understand
It's almost like it's written into the story
Into the DNA
And some of the archetypes might be
The benevolent king versus the evil tyrant
And you see this play out in Lion King for example
This is why people love Mufasa so much
Because Mufasa is a benevolent king
He is a leader
He's a patriarch
But everyone really respects him
Because he's got the best interests of the tribe in mind
And he's tough
You wouldn't want to fuck with Mufasa
But at the same time
He has a tender and gentle side as well
With his son with Simba
Yeah
And he cares
But then you've got
Skar
Who is the evil dictator
And Skar is very sort of narcissistic
And he's very self-serving
And he's he'll stab you in the back
In a second
And what happens to Pride Rock
Pride Rock falls apart
Under Skar
So I think a lot of these archetypes
Even the Beauty and the Beast archetype
Is a super-interesting one
Like um
So you know the movie The Beauty and the Beast right
Yeah
Well the idea here is that
It's the feminine
Submissive sort of woman
Who tames the beast
And this is actually something
That plays out a lot
Within female attraction
And it gets really dark
But
The curious
So have you ever seen how females
They love what you'd call like a
Like Fairy porn
Fairy porn
Is that like the reading porn
Yeah exactly
So it's like
Things like Twilight
The other thing
Well
They did
There's this book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts
Right
And it's basically a bunch of Google engineers
They got together
And they were studying
The Google searches
Of
Of
Of people
And there's like a billion different Google searches
And they went into the
Deepest and darkest
Fantasies of women
What were women searching when they went on pornographic sites
And some of the main things that came up
Was
Vampire
Werewolf
Billionaire
Pirate
And uh
Surgeon
No way
Yeah
And so they're like
What the hell
Like what's going on here
But then you think about it for a second
What's the most popular book
With females over the past 10 years
Is it
Is it Twilight
That would be one of them for sure
For females
50 Shades of Grey
50 Shades of Grey
Yeah
What is 50 Shades of Grey
It's like this billionaire
Who's like this erratic
Crazy sort of character
Who
Who is like this
This like beast to the outside world
And then this timid
Like beauty
Comes in and she
Tames him
And then she gets to see a different side of him
But there's another movie
That's extremely popular with women
Called 365
And it's an Italian mobster
Who's like a mobster
And a killer
And this guy
Goes and captures this woman
And takes her hostage
For a whole entire year
And the whole movie is basically the sexual tension
Between them building up
And do they eventually
Fuck on a boat
While women love this movie
This woman was literally captured
But this Italian mobster boss
Is just like a sucker for her
And then there's Twilight as well
Why is she attracted to this vampire
Well all goes back to this archetype
And there's something about
What women really like
Which is the beauty and the beast archetype
They like the beast
Who can be
Tamed and civilized
But only by them
So I think a lot of men
Would do well to actually understand this
And not to be a beast in the sense
That you're like violent
And erratic and everything
But if you are for example
Somebody who's super ambitious with your career
And you're out there
You're conquering the world
You don't want to always be like that
Around your woman
You want to
On a quiet Sunday morning
You want to sort of let the veils
Slip maybe for a second
Then get up
And go to go to the gym
Yeah
No it's a very interesting concept
I think women have this deep
Deep attraction to men
Who are a beast in their own right
But who can also be loving and gentle
But they
Only they get to
Almost like they've tamed the beast
Right
Only they see that side of them
Yes
Very fast
And yeah
Nice guys finish last
Right
And that's classic quote
But so true
Yep
They're useful idiots man
Do you ever heard of a
Saying called
Sneaky fuck a strategy
No it is
This is interesting
So
You've got
And this is not me being crass
This is actually a zoological term
So the sneaky fuck a strategy
Is basically
In it with puffer fish
And a few other different animals
What happens is
You've got the alpha and the beta sort of phenotypes
Some of the fish
And so the alpha phenotypes
Are the ones who get all of the
The females and they do all of the mating
And then the beta ones
Who can't compete in the masculine hierarchy
What they actually do is they
Is they sort of start to look like the females
They'll try and actually
Like disguise themselves as the females
To try and bypass the male gatekeepers
And get away into the crowd
So that they can then get away
From the alphas
And then try and meet with the females
When the alphas are looking
And I think that this exact thing happens
With female feminist nice guys
In the human race
Yeah they get bypassed
Well the thing is
They are trying to
Game the system
So obviously there's a masculine hierarchy
And that what at the very top of that masculine hierarchy
Is guys who are big
Strong, competent, liars
Who are admired by other men
And who are wanted by other women
Well that's the yeah exactly
Well for you exactly
That's the sort of the hercules
And then at the bottom of the hierarchy
You have guys who are
Little short feminine their temperament
Not very ambitious
A little bit useless
Not very competent
So you can either
Spend your whole entire life trying to compete
In that masculine hierarchy
And trying to get to the top
Or at least get get
Up as high as you can
Or you can be a sneaky fucker
And you can grow your hair out long
And you can wear the colorful tight eye shirts
And you can go to the raves
And you can wear pink
And then you can dance with all the girls
And try and deceive them
Into sleeping with you
In some sort of like a drunken
You know, drug stooped hares
And you see a lot of these male feminists
Who try and look like the women
Whenever you see this guys with the long hair
And who wear like the tight singlets
And you know, just look very feminine
In their temperament
I truly think that is just a mating strategy
Very well
Yeah
Yeah, they're playing a short-term game
But I'm always about
Being the best person to yourself
100%
You had to play the long game
Yeah, you know
Especially these days
And even if you do get
They let you sleep with them or whatever
When a woman is pregnant
She's looking for a man who's about his business
Right
You know
And she's going to lose respect for you real quick
If she's depending on you
For protection and for provision
And you're
Oh, I don't feel like going to work
Today I stubbed my toe
Or I just don't
I want to have a mental health day or something like that
Yeah
Don't listen to any of that garbage
Just a cycle programming that's going on there
About
About
Becoming more feminized
Because a lot of guys get sucked into that trap
And this is how it happens
Sure, back in the day
Oh yeah man, it's brutal
It's brutal
I have to
They get sucked into this trap
And then they become useful idiots
For the feminist conditioning
Like
The women won't actually respect you
Women will respect men who have boundaries
Women who respect men
Who stand for something
Who are ambitious
And also who can tell them no
Yeah
Who can tell them to shut off if they need to
Yeah
Be quiet
But you've got to have some leverage first
To get to that position
Right
You've got to make some money
You've got to be doing some
Sort of valuable gain for the relationship
You've got to be a good horse for them to put their money on
Right
Yeah
Because it's hard to have that stance when you're broke
Yeah
You've got no leverage at that point
Yeah man
Maybe your looks but that's fleeting
Yeah
Looks is one thing
But like I said before
You know
It's when she's
Six months pregnant
And she's looking at you
To hold things down
Because she doesn't really want to stand up
She just want to sit there with her belly in
Being pregnant
Which is what she should have to do
Yeah
Just to be chill and during that time
Then you better be able to hold it down
Yeah
You know
100%
You want kids
Yeah
Yeah same here
Hopefully lots
When I was atheist I didn't
Yeah
I was questioning it too
I was uh
Atheist for like 10 years I'd say
Really
Yeah
A middle school high school and a little bit after
How old are you?
I'm 28
28
Yeah I'm 30
Yeah I would save right before the pod
Is when I started questioning stuff
The similar time period to you
And where are you at now?
I wouldn't time myself to a religion
But I'm spiritual
Yeah
I believe in a creator
Yeah
Yeah
And is anything that makes sense to you
And in regards to the nature of that creator?
Um
Well I believe in
I have a weird belief actually
Like I believe in things from multiple religions
So I believe in reincarnation
I believe in past lives
Believe in a creator
Karma
So I kind of just
Study a bunch of different religions
And take what I like
Do you ever find any of them logically
Contradicting themselves?
If I dug into it deep enough I'm sure I would
But I haven't done what you've done
When it comes to research
Yeah
And we'll hear if one of the references or anything
And just let me know
For sure
I think
Especially one of the things that is pretty
Red Pilling in this regard
Is looking into the resurrection
Of Jesus Christ
That's someone that really got me
Really
The fact that there's actually a lot of evidence for it
So you believe it actually happened
Oh yeah
Yeah
That actually happened
I did see articles about they found some
Scar for whatever
The Shroud of Turin
Yeah
That's crazy
Yeah
The Shroud of Turin is insane
Like
You know they thought that they debunked it
I think in the 90s they got a little bit of it
And they tried to carbon date it
And they said oh this is from like the 15th century
This is a hoax
But then they realized that they had actually gotten
For the wrong part
Because
It was burnt
The place that were where it was
Was burnt down a couple of hundred years ago
And so they got the wrong part
And then they did it again recently
And they got a different part of the Shroud
And it goes exactly back to the time
When
Jesus
Was killed
Wow
Right
And all of the
And like the blood soaked
Um
Shroud
It's like a
I think it's something like a 3D negative
Or something
I can't remember exactly what the term for it is
But basically
I'm a bit retarded
But it comes to this
The technological stuff
But basically
The only way in which that could have happened
Is if
Is if at the moment
At that very moment
There was an extreme blast
Like we actually couldn't recreate
The Shroud today
With all of our modern technology
Yeah
If they had to be an extreme blast
Like a massive blast
To
To make that
And then they've done like a 40 imaging of it now
They've recreated it in 40 imaging
You actually see Jesus lying there
It's crazy
That is fascinating
Yeah and there's just so many
So many things like that
And it's eventually after a while
You just think to yourself
You can keep on denying it
Or you can get on your knees
And you can
Yes
Start praying and see
And see if God opens it all
Yeah I wouldn't
I wouldn't say a deny
I would say I'm open
I used to pray
And I did use to see results from it
But that to me
I didn't know if that was God
Or just manifestation
You know what I mean
Because I would pray when like I had stomach ache
And then it would go away
Well I think that manifestation has to be God
Because manifestation
Whenever I see people talking about manifestation
I think to myself
Well that you're implying that there's an order to the world
Because if if manifestation is I think
And then I get
Or I drink it
Think and I go rich
These sorts of things
They all do make sense
But that would imply that there's order
And actually
That's a presupposition
That if you don't believe in God
You really can't have
Because atheists for example
Just believe that everything is chaos
Right
That there is no actual structure
In order to the world
So if there's no structure
In order to the world
And we're just
A cosmic accident
And we come from a big bang
And everything is just you know
Then why would there be metaphysical
Concepts
That are ordered and structured
Why would I be able to abstract
While why would there be abstractions
That can create order
Abstractions aren't even real
In the atheist world
That would mean that there is a metaphysical reality
Interesting
Yeah
Very interesting
Where do you stand on the destiny
Verse free will to be
Destiny versus free will
Do you believe as humans
We have full free will
Do you believe we are destined
To like do you think
You're destined to be here right now
No I think that we have free will
A hundred percent
Yeah
Like nothing's predetermined death
All that
We're going to die
Yeah I mean we're all going to die
But I don't think it's necessarily predetermined
I do think
I do believe in divine intervention
But I don't believe
So you've got the
With Christians you've got a few different
Sort of
Sort of ideas here
And there's actually really hard to wrestle with
These are very deep
And interesting philosophical ideas
With the Sam Harris argument
That doesn't make sense
Sam Harris is argument about the moral landscape
Doesn't make sense
Because he's basically trying to create
A
He's trying to create an objective morality
Through atheism
Right
But
Yeah
Like
It doesn't make sense
Because Sam Harris
Is ultimately a materialist
And with a materialist
You can't create
Good and bad
Good and evil
And these sort of abstractions
Because he just believes in materialism
So he doesn't believe in duality
He doesn't believe
Yeah exactly
Oh god
He believes that we're just material
He doesn't believe we have a soul
And he sort of
Like proper governing factor
Yeah I believe we have a soul
Yeah
Definitely
So his idea is that we
We have no free will
Because we are just chemical beings
Right
Just proteins and neurons etc
So nothing we do
Is actually us doing it
So then how can you create objective morality
How can if I was to lean over
And punch you in the face
Well it's just my atoms
It's just the chemical reaction
I didn't do anything wrong
According to Sam Harris
But then he's trying to say that
Things can be good and bad
And objectively evil
And it makes no sense
It doesn't matter
There isn't a moral landscape
If you're just thinking the way he thinks
It's just all chaos
But with Christians it's a little bit different
So you've got the Calvinist idea
And what the Calvinist think
Is that we don't have free will
That everything is predetermined
And it's a very strong philosophical argument
That's very hard to actually contend with
Because they believe
That if God is all powerful and all knowing
If they would ask you
Is a Christian
Do you believe that God is all powerful and all knowing
Well yeah
Well then he would have obviously known
That you were going to sin before you sined
He would have known
What you were going to do before you were born
So then he's actually condemned you
When you were born
He actually condemned you to hell
And he condemned certain people to heaven
We have no free will
Because God is all knowing and all powerful
But then
I think the other argument against that
Is that actually God doesn't operate
On the same sort of linear time trajectory
As we do
So he's not saying all right
It's, you know
November 2025
That's not the way that God thinks
God is outside of time
He's outside of space
He's outside of material
I've heard that argument
Where time isn't linear
Yeah
Yeah exactly
So I actually buy into that too
Yeah
Yeah
So what time is a construct
Yeah because this calendar was man-made
Yeah
Yeah
There wasn't the same calendar they used in the past
Yeah
So time is a construct
Like just like so many things
That we know
But it's an interesting debate
And it's very interesting
When you look at it through the Calvinists
And the Orthodox
Because that's a hard one to wrestle with
Yeah
Yeah I don't know where I stand on it
Because I work so hard
Like I feel like
I want to believe that we have free will
And like I earned everything I have in my life
But I do hear this destiny argument all the time
Yeah
I don't think so
I don't think that anyone's destined to be a child
Child know
Yeah
Yeah
So
I didn't know we'd get so filled up
Well I don't know where we're going to talk politics man
It's cool that you've done all this research
You know your history very well
I don't know this stuff
Yeah this is really cool man
Anything else you want to close off with your promote
Just
Breadle's night TV
We do a lot a lot of live streams
But I'm not traveling
I'll do five or six times a week
The extravaganza
With myself and Andrew Wilson
And then Rob nor a lot of the time as well as on there
We do that five game easton
Monday to Thursday
Easton time
And it's been great to meet you man
I really really enjoy what you're doing here
Yeah thanks for setting this up
We're about to have a fun debate here now
So uh
Stay tuned guys
Andrew Wilson versus Coach Craig Adams
I look forward to doing more stuff with you in the future
Yeah
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