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Alex Bragin, CTO of Jan3, joins The Conor Chepenik Podcast to break down the evolution of Bitcoin from its earliest days to today’s AI-driven future.Alex shares what it was like discovering Bitcoin in 2011, building early infrastructure and creating Bitcoin futures, as well as watching it grow from $1 to a global asset. The conversation explores how Bitcoin UX improved over time, why most people still misunderstand it, and how AI is reshaping development, companies, and even the concept of work itself.They also dive into real-world implications of AI agents transacting value, security risks with wallets and bots, quantum computing fears, and how nation-states are thinking about Bitcoin adoption.Key themes include:Why long-term Bitcoin holders stop worrying about tradingHow AI is compressing teams and redefining companiesThe risks of AI handling money and private keysWhether quantum computing is a real threat to BitcoinWhy creativity remains a human advantageHow Bitcoin could reshape global incentives toward cooperationThis episode connects two of the most powerful forces of this decade: Bitcoin and AI.Check out: https://www.jan3.com/Follow Alex on X: https://x.com/BraginRightsFollow Alex on LinkedIn: / alekseybragin Follow Conor on X: https://x.com/BraginRightsFollow Conor on LinkedIn: / conorchepenik Time Codes:00:00:00 – Intro: Alex Bragin joins the podcast00:00:23 – How Alex discovered Bitcoin in 201100:03:29 – Why holding Bitcoin beats trying to trade it00:05:24 – How Bitcoin wallets evolved from early complexity to better UX00:08:14 – AI excitement, neural networks, and why Alex doesn't trust AI with wallets00:11:03 – AI agents sending sats and betting in group chats00:12:39 – People who hate AI, the creativity debate, and job loss fears00:17:14 – Why Jan3 restructured into smaller AI-first teams00:21:01 – Voice cloning, scams, and security risks00:24:39 – Skill atrophy, the meaning crisis, and what abundance actually looks like00:27:08 – Factory jobs to AI: why this has happened before00:30:49 – Nation states, Bitcoin strategy, and the quantum computing debate00:35:54 – Altcoins vs Bitcoin: why most crypto is fiat 2.000:38:13 – The Sovereign Individual, fleeing with your wealth, and Bitcoin reducing violence00:41:43 – Hot wallets, multi-sig, time locks, and the $5 wrench attack00:46:17 – Privacy, cloud AI surveillance, and why local models matter00:52:01 – Deepfakes, video evidence, and the collapse of trust00:55:21 – Em dashes, AI slop, and keeping your writing voice00:57:06 – If you could ask Satoshi one question00:59:34 – Outro
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