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Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news.
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The daily briefing on stand-up comedy comedians
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in the comedy industry.
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Jay Leno was on Judd Apatel's podcast,
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and thanks Justin for sending this one in.
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They started to discuss the Mount Rushmore of comedy.
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Always a fun topic, and I don't know what to do with it,
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because I think people have a recency bias
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and get a little crazy, and we want to put somebody
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who's currently performing up there,
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or like sometimes a shooting star.
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You know, these things are hard,
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and you only get four spots.
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So for me, George Carlin, Richard Pryor,
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and two, I don't know, is that any given day
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I might give you a different answer.
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Carlin is undeniable,
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including if you listen to the very, very late
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George Carlin material,
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which at the time was described by people like me as angry,
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boy, has it aged well.
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George Carlin is somehow the great prophet
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of the 21st century.
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The other one who's undeniable is Richard Pryor.
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There are plenty of disciples of Richard Pryor,
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starting with Richard Pryor Cover Act Eddie Murphy,
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who I love, but let's just be real about it.
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And you can see Richard Pryor descendants
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Now who you would put in the other two,
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I don't know, like, so part of it is,
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how do you define the genre?
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Is Johnny Carson doing a monologue for nights a week
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Should he be in the list?
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Bob Hope for 80 years,
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and don't judge Bob Hope by what he did
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Go back and watch the young Hope.
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Why are there any women on the mountain?
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Okay, should we put, say,
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Joan Rivers up on the list?
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So Carlin Pryor, I don't know, I don't know,
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but Jay Leno gave his list.
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And listen to the name he uses for comedian number one.
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I've never heard anyone call this person this other than Jay Leno.
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Okay, my father would be Richie.
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He was Richie Pryor when I know now he's Richard Pryor.
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he would go on the guy,
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he was getting ready to do live at the sunset strip.
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The first filmed comedy special for theaters, not HBO.
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And I follow him every night because you couldn't follow Richie.
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And I realized I didn't have an hour worth of material.
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I had maybe 18 minutes,
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but then I just realized throughout everything
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that doesn't get a laugh.
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All right, Richard Pryor.
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Jay Leno and I are aligned there.
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Let's see who Jay Leno had as number two.
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Because you have to understand Pryor Robert Klein.
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Most comedians were men in their 30s of 40s
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that grew up during the Depression.
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And then it gets today when he's hippies with the long hair.
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That was all that kind of stuff.
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Suddenly here was Robert Klein, middle class guy,
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talking about things I would talk about with my friend.
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Because I couldn't be depression-era stuff
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or make fun of the music today
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because that was my generation.
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I think Robert Klein has been largely forgotten.
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His name never comes up.
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Very, very interesting.
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All right, at number three, Jay Leno, who do you have?
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Next to be Bob Newhart.
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Well, he was the close up magician of comedy.
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You know, Newhart had the great,
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it was like a slider,
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like an inside fastball.
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He had a bit about the first astronaut
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to have extraterrestrial communication.
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So it comes down from the thingy lands.
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And of course, he's the first astronaut.
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So all the press is asking him questions.
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And a reporter says,
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how far ahead of us are these aliens?
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And he says, about six weeks.
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And you know, it's two weeks is too soon.
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Six months is too far ahead.
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But six weeks, you cannot catch up.
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You know, it's finding the right turn of six weeks
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is exactly what's not crazy.
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Again, as time marches on mentioned a little less
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and less a unique voice.
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One of the greats, Rushmore.
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I don't let's another thing.
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All right, Jay, who do you have for number four?
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And of course Rodney Dangerfield.
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Rodney Dangerfield was the economy of words.
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He could get to the joke quicker.
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I knew Rodney for 40 years.
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I have no idea if he's a democratic public.
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We never discussed it was just jokes.
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It was, you know, like the joke about at one after another.
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Now, the idea that my doctor said,
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I need a stool sample, a semen sample,
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And I get my end of pants.
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Now, that's an interesting take by Jay Leno.
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Again, I won't throw, I want to say rocks
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and throwing rocks in a mountain.
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I won't throw rocks at any of these picks.
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Karlin prior, I don't know.
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The conversation did go on, or Jay Leno said
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if he had a fifth pick, it would be George Karlin.
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And I had, I don't know when I even saw this story,
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but I've just been sitting on it for an episode like today.
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Back in 2014, Jay Leno was on Craig Ferguson show.
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I don't remember that happening,
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but I believe everybody.
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And Craig asked Jay Leno if Jay's mind ever drifted
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when one of the guests was not all that interesting.
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Jay said the classic examples I had
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on one of these reality stories.
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Trista, who apparently is Trista Sutter,
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Jay said, from one of those bachelor's ats.
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And I'm looking at the side of her head.
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I couldn't be less interested.
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I'd never seen this stupid reality show.
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You know what it was.
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And Jay said to make it worse,
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Jay says he wraps up the show he leaves.
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I go out in the parking lot.
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There's a woman standing next to me with a boyfriend.
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She says, can I have a picture?
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And I go, sure, how you doing?
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And Jay asked her, what's your name?
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It was the woman just interviewed on the tonight show.
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Kevin Neelen was on icon versus icon.
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And he said, I learned from so many comics.
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I bartended at the improv.
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So I was there all the time and I see these comics come
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that I really enjoyed and was a fan of every night
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to watch them perform and take it all in.
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That's how I learned by watching.
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It never even felt like work to me.
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There were comics like Jay Leno and Richard Lewis.
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So I watched closely.
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Andy Kaufman was a huge influence on me
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because he was so unique, so different and so interesting.
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He played so much with the audience's mind,
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leading him in one direction, leaving people unsure
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of what he was doing and really pushing boundaries.
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I also watched Seinfeld perform
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because we came up around the same time or less.
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Good advice from Kevin Neelen about the comedy industry.
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You can't take things personally.
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I learned that a long time ago.
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And things don't really affect me that much anymore.
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Even if they can regular life, I'm not easily shaken.
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I don't want to say I'm dead inside because I'm not,
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but I've gotten used to a lot of rejection and disappointment,
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especially in the early stages.
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More from that Forbes conversation
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between Jerry Seinfeld and Nate Bergazzi.
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Jerry Seinfeld was curious.
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What's it like touring for you these days
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in terms of workload?
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Nate said it's like a gym.
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You got to stay on top of it when you don't go out
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for two weeks and then you get on stage.
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And you're like rough, I'm awful.
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Jerry was like, what about when your wife wants to go on vacation?
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Nate said he'll try and pop in somewhere
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to do one show to stay fresh.
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Jerry said, it's funny how fast it goes.
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I find not only can you not remember lines,
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but you lose your nerve.
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You should be even be doing this.
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Who am I talking to in front of all these people?
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Wow, Jerry Seinfeld thinking that.
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Nate said, yeah, there's the thing in your head
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that goes like, who do you think you are?
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Are you out of your mind?
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I had to work on my own mind wandering.
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I had to work on pulling my mind back
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to the story the joke I was telling.
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Every time I'm telling it, I visualize it.
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And you're in front of a different crowd every night
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because I'm in the round.
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I'll pick like four people.
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It might be an older lady could be a family further back woman
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You keep an eye on them.
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It's a good way to keep engaged like, is it too harsh?
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You're picking four people to do the show for
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weirdly enough instead of a mass.
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Nate said, I like stand up in the arenas.
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It's really pushing stand up to this higher level.
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I've got big screens, a sound system.
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It's like watching a live special.
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It's about the community and everybody laughing.
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You want to give them a full show
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when they all leave?
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Rob Riggle spoke with clutch points.
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Rob said getting on Saturday night live was a dream come true
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was something I'd worked for for a long, long time.
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And when it finally happened, it was hard to process.
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And then being on the stage when they rolled credits,
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and I've watched it my whole life
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when they rolled credits, everyone's on stage
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to be on that stage looking back out toward the audience
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and then the cameras was surreal.
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Being on the daily show, getting last job
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was a great, great moment.
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Getting to do movies with people that I admire,
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getting to do scenes with Tom Hanks or people.
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You just love their work and appreciate them so much.
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And then you find yourself in a scene with them.
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I've worked with Rob.
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I think twice found him to be super, super awesome in person.
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Rob wrote a book, grit spits and never quit.
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He explained, you get to a point where you tell enough stories
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and people go, hey, you should write a book.
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And you go, all right.
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And you hear that enough times.
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You're like, all right, maybe I should.
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And then I write down my goals every year at the beginning
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of the year. So I wrote down, I'm gonna write a book.
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But it was the one goal that didn't get accomplished.
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It just kept rolling and rolling over until finally
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I was ashamed of myself.
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And I said, write the book.
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And so I did took two years.
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And he explains, you got to remember now, it's not just
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like I locked myself in a log cabin and sat down and wrote.
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It's not how it works.
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I got to go out there, eat what I kill.
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I'm out there hustling for work every day.
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So it takes time to grind out a book.
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Blake Griffin has dabbled with comedy.
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What are you doing here?
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But you're a basketball player.
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Blake goes, yeah, Russell says, well, what are you?
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Because you got red hair.
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Russell, where'd you go up?
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with red hair in Oklahoma.
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No wonder you're good at it.
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That's just how I am.
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