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Jenna is on the phone today for a first date follow up.
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And she's getting ghosted by a dude named Nick.
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So in a few minutes, we'll call him and see if I tell
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swise ghosting her and maybe get her a second date.
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But first, let's find out more about the date.
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Jenna, how long has it been since you heard from Nick?
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Hey, um, well, we went on our date about a week ago.
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Um, and I did text him afterwards and we had it so concerned.
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So it's been about a week.
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I'm probably being dramatic.
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I don't understand that.
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But as you kind of feel like I need closer after this,
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because it was such a good date in my perspective.
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Um, you're not being dramatic.
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It is never okay to ghost somebody.
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And after a week of sitting there second guessing yourself.
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Shoot, you need answers.
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So, um, he and I, we met at my bar.
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He suggested, and I thought it was so nice.
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And it was like, through a message, you know,
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it was another vibe.
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I had kind of like low lighting and sort of brick on the wall.
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And like cozy little sort of like, um,
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benching for us to sit in and talk for the news,
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or they kind of wrote like this specialty.
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Why is that I honestly just like pretend to understand?
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Because I'm not like a line of this, you know,
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uh, um, you know, it's kind of like one of those races where,
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you know, server's going to ask like,
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what notes of line do you like?
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And I was just kind of like, great.
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He ordered very confidently, which I really liked.
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Um, I kind of just like followed his, you know,
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I'm order for us, um, a bottle.
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And I mean, we ended up talking for like two hours about,
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I mean, all kind of felt like our childhood pets and, um,
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roommate situations that we've had that was been terrible.
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And we talked about, you know, places we want to travel.
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Just like all those kind of neat, nice things,
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And he was very funny, kind of without trying to be
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and he had sort of like a dry humor, which I really liked.
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So it made me feel very relaxed because I was kind of a little out of my element.
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Um, it was a really great day.
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So at the end of the night, we were outside and he did kiss me,
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It just felt like the natural sort of, you know, next step.
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And I just, I don't know, I kind of walked away feeling like,
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you know, most guys on a date, they just really talk at you.
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And I just feel like he like talked with me.
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So he was like, no man's blaming or anything.
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So, but of course, like replying it back in my head,
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this awkward thing happened that I'm just like,
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has to be the reason I'm getting guessed it.
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So for some reason, I felt why I did this for like the majority of the date.
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I kept calling him Rick.
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Um, uh, what was his name again?
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And his name was Nick.
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And I called him Rick.
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And like, oh, he was so polite.
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And he did correct me after like the second glass of wine.
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So it wasn't like super long into the date.
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And he, of course, I was mortified.
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And he was like, he played it off.
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Like, it's not a problem, you know, and, and it's kind of funny.
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He became like an inside joke between us to offer up to the date about,
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oh, Rick, you know, oh, Rick and all that kind of stuff.
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So anyway, I guess I just felt like maybe that's the reason I'm getting ghosted.
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Maybe he took offense to it and he was just trying to be nice.
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He did choose to kiss me, but he did a week afterwards.
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And I did send him like a playful text afterwards.
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And kind of called him Rick in the text and was like, you know, kind of like,
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so nice to meet you, Rick.
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Like, you know, yeah, you're being funny.
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I've been thinking about the how to be the thing that pushed him over the edge.
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And now he just doesn't want to call me.
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And I'm so embarrassed, but I do need closure because it was a really good date
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for my first practice.
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And you will have you ever ghosted somebody after kissing them on a date?
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I always find that so strange.
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As far as just like a pity kiss kind of, you know, he's like, well,
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I mean, they want to kiss like they're coming in for a kiss.
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It's like might as well.
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Well, I got clarity.
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Kisses mean nothing.
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And then you like drive away and you start thinking about it like, yeah, no.
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Yeah, I didn't have to do that.
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Jenna is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Nick.
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So we're about to call him.
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And see if they tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her a second date.
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But before we do that, Jenna, why don't you break down your date with Nick again for us real quick?
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So I went on a date with Nick.
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He was really great to a wine bar.
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Had an amazing time.
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And we shared a kiss at the end of the night.
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But he did let me know awkwardly halfway through the date that I kept calling him Rick on.
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I said I didn't put a stick.
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It's the same as inside jokes.
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But now a week later after him ghosting me, I'm wondering if it's just because I called him by the wrong name.
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And he was a friend.
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Well, are you ready to see if that is the reason he's ghosting you?
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Yeah, maybe we should.
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I'm going to call him right now.
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Speak to Nick, please.
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And my name is Jewel.
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Have you ever heard of the Jewel show before?
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Well, this is the second we do on the show called a first date follow up.
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That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, they can email us to give you a call and ask why you're ghosting.
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So we got an email about you from somebody.
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Any idea who might be emailing us to get hold of you?
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Was it Jenna by any chance?
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She told us about your dates that she liked you a lot, but you can't figure out why you're ghosting her.
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Would you mind telling us?
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She moved the meats around.
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She kept moving the meats around.
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She kept moving the meats around.
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The Shakota Reboard.
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We got the ordered one.
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So she was just shuffling the meat around on the Shakota Reboard?
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So moving the meats.
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It was almost like a little OCD.
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Like she organized the crackers by size, the meats.
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So they weren't touching the cheeses.
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It was, it just, it seemed very controlling to me.
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So it was more than just like she was putting her hands all over the meat and moving it around.
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And by the way, it's more like you think it's a control thing?
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Just seemed a little much.
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Maybe she thought she was looking out for you.
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You just didn't feel that.
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I just, I just, I've seen how these things go.
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This was just not a good sign.
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You've been in a situation like this before?
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You know with women, not now.
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But just seemed a little intense for me.
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Moves the meats, but she's intense.
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You're worried she's controlling because she wouldn't stop moving the meat around on your
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Sounds like you took the word right out of my mouth there.
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That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Thank you for being honest with us.
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Now that you know that Jenna is actually on the phone and would like to talk to you.
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You ghosted me over our Shakota Reboard.
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That is very odd behavior.
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It is not just the Shakota Reboard.
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This is what it leads to.
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It's what it means.
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What do you mean what it means?
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And I was trying to like coordinate the meats and cheeses and the crackers to go to wine that you think so into.
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That makes no sense to me.
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It starts with the Shakota Reboard.
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And then it leads to just our lives.
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Like, I'm just telling you, that's how it tips this was here for you.
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Nick, Nick, I lined up crackers.
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I didn't feel your social security number.
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You thought I was one of the most beautiful people you've ever seen and gone out with.
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And because I lined up crackers wrong, you think I'm going to like control your lives?
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You are very gorgeous.
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And that must lead to you being so very meticulous and, you know, very well put together.
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Because I mean, that's proof.
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But it just starts there.
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And you're welcome for that.
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I look beautiful because I'm meticulous.
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We enjoyed the Shakota Reboard because I'm meticulous.
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So what the big thing is for me is that you just disappeared instead of using your words like an adult man should do.
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And you give it a right there.
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I mean, you said that we enjoyed the Shakota Reboard when clearly I did not.
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I was just very uncomfortable.
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I was very confused.
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You're already trying to control my feelings.
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And I am a man myself.
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I have my own opinions.
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And I don't know your feelings.
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I'm not going to control your feelings.
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You know what you need?
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You actually need therapy.
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You need to go to therapy and talk this out with somebody.
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You clearly have emotional issues and you're emotionally allergic to organization, I guess.
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And just like that, you think because of the Shakota Reboard, I don't agree that I need therapy.
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You see how that sounds?
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Is that your automatic, you know, result to everybody in your lives that they need therapy if they don't agree with you?
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I'm not saying everyone needs therapy that doesn't agree with me.
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I'm saying you, in particular, need therapy.
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If you go on a date with a beautiful and credible woman, you self-proclaimed that I'm beautiful.
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You were the one that initiated the kiss.
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And then all of a sudden, I'm like controlling because I tried to make an elevated experience.
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That to me is a you problem.
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And you need to go to therapy for that.
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Hot women, that's where it's the saying crazy thing that happens.
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Oh, we're just so crazy.
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We're just so crazy.
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You love when we take time to look good and show up and do all that stuff for you and go to your fancy wine places
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and do all this stuff.
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And then I'm there.
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Anyway, I do not want to date someone.
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I was just about to ask Nick, would you like another date with Jenowell Pay for it?
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I really need to start looking for different women.
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Good luck finding anyone out who's willing to move you or me because I foresee that you're probably
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going to be touching your salami by yourself for a while.
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We were worried about that.
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I'll go send somebody out.
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