Jes Staley And The Transcripts From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 14) (9/7/26)

0:00What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to pick up where we left off, with Jess Staley and the transcript from his trip to Congress. Question, why then asked Steve Cutler to hear Mr. Epstein out if you think they should have acted differently in retaining him as a client? Answer I think one doesn't have to do with the other. Just having the Chief Counselor bank listen to Jeffrey Epstein before the bank bakes, or as the bank makes its decision, what to do with his accounts made sense. The bank would be most informed, the most senior officer responsible for it would be informed, and they would hopefully make the right decision. Question, did you ever loan Mr. Epstein money? Answer no. Question are you aware of Mr. Epstein exerting influence on J.P. Morgan to convince them to grant loans? Answer no. Answer Mr. Epstein ever procured loans for Leon Black from J.P. Morgan?

1:00Answer did he ever procure loans? Leon Black borrowed in his own right. Question did Mr. Epstein say anything to J.P. Morgan to influence their granting of a loan to Leon Black? Answer nothing I'm aware of. Question were you involved in any loans for Leon Black? Answer directly no. Question how are you involved indirectly? Answer indirectly? No I was not involved with loans to Leon Black. Question who would have been responsible for handling loans to Mr. Black? Answer his bankers in the credit department? Question and who was his banker? Answer I don't know. Question was adjusted Nelson? Answer it could have been at one point yes. Question did you ever speak to Mr. Nelson about loans for Leon Black? Answer not that I can recall no. Question did Mr. Epstein speak with Mr. Nelson about loans for Leon Black? Answer not that I'm aware of. Question did you ever ask J.P. Morgan to grant Mr. Epstein a loan?

2:02Answer no. I know he asked for a loan but I believe it was no. But no I did not ask the bank to grant Epstein a loan. Question what did he ask for a loan for? Answer again I'm not sure. I think at one point he asked whether the bank would extend credit to a modeling agency. Question how did you become aware of that? Answer I don't know. My recollection is through the press. Question were you ever made aware of his request for a line of credit during your time at J.P. Morgan? Answer I believe so yes. Question who would have told you? Answer I don't know. Question did you work on granting this line of credit? Answer no. Question the New York Times has reported that J.P. Morgan provided financial backing for Mr. Epstein to help Jean-Luc Brunel start a modeling agency called MC-squared. Some of Epstein's underage victims said MC-squared lured them to the United States with the prospect of paid modeling work. And Brunel was arrested in France in 2022 for charges of raping teenage girls.

3:06Who authorized that line of credit? Answer I don't know. Question have you ever met anyone who worked for MC-squared? Answer no. Question have you ever met Jean-Luc Brunel? Answer no. Question were you aware of the DOJ's investigation into whether Mr. Brunel's MC-squared modeling agency was feeding girls and women into Mr. Epstein's suspected sex trafficking ring? Answer no. Question was anyone aware of this investigation at J.P. Morgan? Answer I don't know. Question did Mr. Epstein ever try to secure banking ties at Barclay? In any way, once you became CEO, answer no. Question did you ever discuss Barclays with Mr. Epstein? Answer yes. Question what did you discuss? Answer we discussed the discussions I had with Barclay in 2012. And then I told Epstein when I was offered the job in 2015 that I'd see Saul contact in a relationship with him. Question did Mr. Epstein ask why?

4:06Answer no. I think it was obvious why. And how did he respond? Answer he understood. Question were you when you told him? Answer I believe I was in New York it was by phone. Question okay. A crucial part of the committee's investigation is to better understand how Epstein and Maxwell use their connections to prominent individuals to curry favor and shield themselves from scrutiny. I'm going to read you a list of names. Please say yes or no to the following question then I'll ask you to elaborate. The question is have you ever met or communicated with any of the following people regarding any crimes committed by a Jeffrey Epstein or a Glyan Maxwell? Frederick Fokai answer no. Question Philip Levine answer can you ask a question again? Question yes. The question is have you ever met or communicated with any of the following people regarding any crime committed by Jeffrey Epstein or a Glyan Maxwell? Frederick Fokai answer no. Question Philip Levine answer no.

5:08Question Andrew Mountbatten Windsor formerly known as Prince Andrew. Answer let's come back to his name. Question Sultan Ahmed Bin Suleiman answer no. Question Jean Luc Brunel answer no. Leon Black answer no. Question Terry Rodlarson answer go back to his name again please. Question okay. Terry Rodlarson answer no. Question George Mitchell answer no. Question Glenn Dubin answer let's go back to him as well. Question Evanderson Dubin answer back to her as well. Question Sergei Brinn answer no. More Zuckerman no. Peter Mandelson no. Andrew Farcus no. Boris Nicolich no. David Gergen no. Larry Summers no. Less Wexner no. Jack Hessler no. Steven Sinovsky no. Kathy Rumler no. Harvey Weinstein no. Woody Allen no. Bill Gates no. Elon Musk no.

6:09Bill Richardson no. Ariane the Rothschild no. Any other member of the Rothschild family answer no. Question President Bill Clinton answer no. Question Secretary Hillary Clinton answer no. Question Doug bad answer no. Question Ted Wait answer no. Question Ehud Barak answer no. Benjamin Netanyahu answer no. Question okay returning to they get cut off by stale. Answer if you can ask a question again question sure. Have you ever met or communicated with any of the following people regarding the crimes committed by Jeffrey Epstein or Glein Maxwell answer okay question Andrew Mount that in Windsor formally known as Prince Andrew answer no. Question Leon Black answer skip it we'll go back to that. And Glenn Dubin answer no. Question Eva Anderson Dubin. You could also tell us what you do know and that would be helpful for the committee's

7:09investigation answer do I know question if you recall speaking to them at different time periods about the crimes anything you recall. Question no I think I would have talked to Glenn and Eva I think I had I think I talked to Leon Black so those three yes let's keep going and that's interesting considering all the people that he said he talked to were considered co conspirators were considered people who took part in the abuse and you know what they say right. Fellow travelers and all question so regarding Leon Black what did you discuss answer I think we discussed again the crimes that Epstein was brought down with and I think that's what I think we discussed question and what was this answer I don't know exactly when it was question was it after is 2008 conviction answer oh yes yes question where were you answer I don't recall question who else was present answer I don't think anybody was question what did Leon Black say answer not or call question what was his attitude towards Mr. Epstein's

8:13conviction answer oh I think I don't I'm not going to characterize I don't know question how did you perceive his reaction to be answer I think we were all it was terrible that he was convicted of and it was a horrible thing what Epstein did I think we both responded to how we both knew him and both responded to how terrible his actions were or what he did are you talking about 2019 question it could be 2019 any of the crimes of Mr. Epstein glam Maxwell have you discussed them with Leon Black answer 2019 no question Glendoubin answer I don't again 2019 I'm sorry it's possibly it was 2019 question and when would this have been answer with Glenn duven question when you would have discussed the 2019 crimes with Leon Black answer I don't recall question but you recall you did discuss them with Mr. Black answer 2019 crimes yeah I don't recall if I did so I would scratch Leon Black I would say with Glenn and Eva duven

9:15question but you did meet with Mr. Black about the 2008 conviction answer I'm not with Leon Black about business and other things and we may have talked about it but I didn't meet him for that purpose of talking about 2008 or 2019 question what did you discuss with Glenn duven answer Glenn and Eva and I are good friends I think we just talked about Epstein overall we didn't talk any specifics about the crimes committed and whatnot but just it impacted both of our lives dramatically and I think we talked about that question how did it impact their lives dramatically answer I think both the duvens and I have been ostracized by part of society have been excluded from institutions that we were part of before so investments that we've made we've had to turn away from well here's an idea stop abusing people while you're hanging out with Epstein thanks for coming to my TED talk question how did you how did you or have you met Benjamin Netanyahu answer once question where was this answer in the prime ministers office in Israel question who

10:18else was present answer just me question did mr cut some off stale I think he had like a secretary there as well question did mr Epstein facilitate the meeting answer yes he did question why answer I asked him to question why answer I asked him to he knew I was trying to meet with the prime minister and I was having difficulty getting on his calendar and I mentioned that to Epstein and then I met with the prime minister question what was mr Epstein's relationship to Benjamin Netanyahu answer I think he knew him that's all question how would you characterize our relationship answer I didn't know I wouldn't characterize it question why would you ask mr Epstein to help you get on the calendar answer I think that he had a relationship with individuals in Israel you knew who'd brought well and I think he may have mentioned that he knew Benjamin Netanyahu so I asked if he could help get me a meeting and when did you meet with mr Netanyahu answer I don't recall question why were you attempting to get on his calendar answer I was visiting Israel on business

11:21and I thought it would be of interest to meet with the prime minister question would you say this was around March 2011 answer it could have been question what did you discuss at the meeting answer I just think we talked about the Middle East and geopolitics nothing specific question why would Benjamin Netanyahu agree to meet with you when there was no set topic what did he believe the reason was for the meeting answer it's possible I don't want to speculate it was a long time ago question why was he also interested meeting with you answer this is 2011 question uh-huh answer I was a senior executive of JP Morgan JP Morgan had a lot of business in the Middle East Miss Tolin so you were meeting him on behalf of JP Morgan stale yes question have you ever met with Benjamin Netanyahu with mr Epstein answer no all right folks we're gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode we're gonna pick up with question what was mr Epstein's relationship with Edubbrok all the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box