JESSE MICHELS talks UFO's, Townsend Brown, David Grusch, Jason Sands + the hope for more hearings

Massive show today! Jesse Michels joins Kristian and Mark to cover an array of the UFO phenomenon. Jesse runs the YouTube channel American Alchemy. He is very tied in to the community. He has done incredible documentaries and has had interviews with people very connected to what's going on. He secured the first interview with David Grusch after the UFO hearings. he did a great piece on anti-gravity and Townsend Brown.We discuss many things with him on this episode. We talk about consciousness, the new whistleblower Jason Sands that came forward and how legit we all think he might be or may not be. We discussed the report that came out about David Grusch recently and if Jessie has spoken to him about any of this and we needs to happen moving forward for disclosure, and if there will indeed be any new hearings coming up. this and much more on today show.