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Jesus, Secret Societies, and the Kabbalah | Jerm Warfare

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Oliver Janich, once a mainstream journalist, questions official narratives on science, COVID-19, and the Bible. He offers a new reading of Yahweh and the Elohim: Yahweh is not the ultimate God but one of many inter-dimensional beings. He also re-examines Jesus, the Trinity, and Satan in the Old Testament.The conversation turns to the spiritual heart of Jesus's teachings, empathy and love. Janich contrasts the God of the Old Testament with the God Jesus represents, and explores mystery schools, secret societies, Kabbalah, and UFOs. He closes with a call for a stateless society built on loving one's neighbour.https://www.oliverjanich.com
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My name is Jim. This is Jim Wolfe, the Battle of Ideas. Oliver Yannick, thank you for joining me in the trenches. Thanks for having me. Congrats to your second child. Thank you very much. It's been a chaotic year at my house, the last-tune, but we now have two boys. Yeah, that's good. I also have two boys, so we'll get more chaotic even. That is great. I like to be part of the Old Boys Club. Yes, me too. Could you give me a little bit about you, your background? Well, I started as a mainstream journalist. I think the first journalist in the world that wrote in a mainstream magazine, focused money that 9-11 was an inside-shop. It was a mainstream magazine in Germany, but then I had to quit there, or I was thrown out, however I say, but I

had a freelance contract. From that on, I went much, much deeper into the topic they now claim a conspiracy theory. I started when I already was in mainstream, I started to notice things and that almost all you read in the mainstream is wrong, but most of the journalists don't even know that. When I wrote this 9-11 article, for example, all the other journalists were against me, only the editor-in-chief was on my side. It's not always coming from the top-the-sensorship, it also comes from your colleague, because I don't know, they don't do their jobs. I mean, everything I write, I have quotes for it and sources. My recent book has 2,000, 200 foot notes, so you can just go in there. Sometimes it's a matter of interpretation. We will see that in that video, but I'm very much committed to the scientific method. I also learned that in university,

I had the only course in empiric science, while I was doing my MBA, that was the only university which also taught empirical science. One of my main guys, I followed Carl Popper, he more or less invented science new, because he says you can never prove a theory, but you can falsify theories. That's what I'm doing with everything. Politically, when Smirners and so on, I said, can we falsify the official theory? From there, I decided to go, how did they do it? Possibly, which is harder to prove. But the first step is always how can you disprove the official theory, which is very easy in terms of 9-11. I mean, I'm sure you talked about that also a lot. It's just right right right, right right, said the seven already falsifies the official theory. Then you can go from there, what really happened. That's what I'm doing with every topic. And just recently,

I thought I have to write a book about the Bible because of another book, who was given to me by the most prominent, what's it called, news anchor in Germany. She got out of the system, if I hear man, but she's the most prominent person in Germany, 99% recognition rate. And she sent me a book about another interpretation of the Bible. And I just wanted to confirm that this guy's right, after she is his name in the light of truth. But I was able to do that. But then I found so much more, that's okay, I have to write it all down. The official story was the church tell us, the mainstream media and the universities are provingly wrong. And yeah, and we will talk about that. That's my main thing, just proving things wrong. That should be the way in which science is conducted. If you look at the way science these days, and I say science in inverted commas, it seems to be very dogmatic. Absolutely. I mean, what we see today has nothing to do with science,

really nothing. I mean, there was even a study, I think, that over 50% of all science papers don't really, if they appear, if you do not confirm what they say. And of course, there is a lot of interests in science. For example, in climate science, which is not science at all, there are a lot of people profiting from the system. It's ridiculous. We could talk one hour about that, but I'm sure you had the topic already. So they have a vested interest, and especially in Germany, but also in other countries, it's the government who pays the scientists. There's this one problem, so they have an ideology, or it's the big corporations who want to sell their products, like the farmer products. It has nothing to do with science, but the good thing is you can look into the papers, and many of them, more or less admitted, this is only an estimation. So if you look deeper into it, but you see that, but in the mainstream media, they make a headline

out of it, and that's not really what the science says. So it's complicated, but it's not so difficult to disprove things they claim, but they just have the interest to push a narrative. And the narrative is more or less the same. We have to obey. Well, the easy one to disprove, in actual fact, saying proof would disprove is not really scientific. That's used, I think in mathematics and logic. In science, you talk about evidence, not proof, because there's no proof is absolute, and science doesn't work in absolutes. Right, they have hypotheses, and the right term is falsifying something. So if a scientist puts the paper out, the other scientists go and try to falsify it. It did not happen yet with my paper. I recently published a paper that's currently under the top 0.5% of papers on academia.

Nobody yet disproved me wrong, but I have some followers. I think I was already quoted also. Sometimes you quote the opinion of somebody else, but it's always, I mean, there's still no proof for gravity, gravity, for example. So, but there are hypotheses about it. Nobody has falsified the theories that are out now. And that's exactly how you describe it. And I love falsifying things. Well, I mean, COVID-19 was easy to falsify. Yes. That was the reason why I disappeared from YouTube. I don't know if he wanted to go into that how wrong it was, but it was very easy. I mean, in March already, I think that was Professor Joanneeris, who was the most cited epitomologist at the time, so yeah, well, it's a flu. Not even, I don't know if you're into the topic, not as even or proof that the virus exists. And when I said that, I was kicked off YouTube. This is something I've tested, even all the AI engines, to find just one single paper anywhere on the

internet that actually has isolated a virus. There isn't one. Yes. And when they, when they talk about an isolated virus, they don't use the word isolated in the way the word isolated means. Exactly. And so we are on the same page here. That's exactly. And I made an interview with Dr. Stefan Langgang. Then I was, who is one of the most important proponents of that. And Andrew Kaufman is another one. David Eich also spoke about it. And then he was kicked off. And I was also kicked off, but I got by channel back recently. And yeah, that's one of the big topics where I say, okay, it's just you can't falsify it so easily. And also if you look into the statistics, nobody died. Nobody, meaning not more people than usual. So you don't, you don't, you do not need a virus to explain a flu season. Yeah. Now you mentioned earlier that you have written a new book on the Bible. And now this is interesting because some people might go, I don't really care about

Christianity, but about a billion people in the world are Christians. Maybe more. I don't know what the official number is. So it's very relevant to a significant portion of the entire world. Yes. And even half of the people, if you count the Muslims in belief in the God of the Old Testament. So it's like almost 60 percent. And I show in my book that Yahweh is not God. So it's very relevant. And it's relevant. We will see later because the people behind the scenes, they, they use that in part. They know it. I think they know it. I think what I reveal in my book is the the secret of the reveal at the top of the secret societies. Yeah. And everything what's this happening now is happening because of Kabbalists doing it. We will go into that later. But it's not not the relevant. They are Kabbalists. They are pushing the narrative. And maybe we will

have a third world war. It's only because of them. It's not that the people hate each other. It's all nonsense. They create these crises and there is an ideology behind that. And that ideology comes from the Old Testament. And what many people already know that there are Kabbalists, Frankus, Sepatians, all of that. I talked about it like 10 or 15 years ago. Now everybody is talking about it. But the real problem lies in the Old Testament itself. Because Yahweh promises to the Israelites, I conquer the world for you. And this is the plan which is playing out now. He promised it to a certain people, to his tribe, to the Israelites. And they still think, well, we have to fulfill this promise. But as I show in my book, he's not God. We go into that. He was just one of the Elohim. Maybe we start with that because that's one of the proofs. So your argument Yahweh of the Old Testament is not God. Why? Exactly. So I give you one verse. Many people don't

know it. And that's what I was searching before I went online. So we have the Dead Sea Scrolls. And this is every scientist except now that this is the original text of Deuteronomy 32, 8, 9. When the most high, Ilyon, gave the nations their inheritance when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. Bene Ilyum, but Yahweh's portion is his people. Jacob is allotted inheritance. So it's very clear there is a Ilyum Ilyon who divides the nations and gives Yahweh Israel. And that's accepted now in theology. Nobody talks about it, but you can look it up on website Torah.com and so on. And they even give an explanation why this is not in the modern virus because the authors changed the text because it

sounded too politicistic. And this politicistic. So Yahweh is only one of the Elohim and we can go deeper in who the Elohim are. But it's very clear that he's only one of many. That's why he was chalice. And he is a very cruel, if you read the Old Testament, I know if you did, he's a very cruel being. I mean, you touch on a very, very taboo point. But something that I've asked many times over the years is in Genesis, it starts with by saying let us create man in our own image. Why plural? Exactly. So that's the Elohim that's totally clear. And even if you look later, you know, everybody is talking right now about the Nephiline. Yeah, even, you know, the politicians and Ana Luna, what's her name? And everybody's talking about that. But in the Bible, it says the Nephiline are the result of the Bine Elohim, the sons of the Elohim mating with women, with human women.

There we also have the plural. But even if you take it like they write it, they are the sons of God. How can the sons of God mate with human beings? If they are not physical beings. So that alone throws everything out. And I find it so fast that everybody's talking about the Nephiline now. And they don't see the obvious. I mean, if they can mate with women, they are physical beings. And yeah, and they are, we also have the plural. And it's Elohim. It's a many. But then who, who did have sex with the woman? Yeah, it was the sons of the Elohim, the Elohim. But who were the sons? Sorry, let's not try to find out. Who were the sons? Yeah, they are only, they're only say it's the sons of the Elohim. They don't say which one is it? In the Bible. But there are, you know, there's a book of Inoc where it goes more into detail, who is who? And they also talk about the book of Inoc, but it's clear that Inoc went with God.

Yeah, in the Bible, he went with God. No, he went with the Elohim. So I don't know how you can read that and not see the obvious that, yeah, there's one of the Elohim. And yeah, they don't name it. And I also don't go into that who is who. But it's the son of the Elohim, which are in my opinion, interdimensional beings who can go into our dimension. Oh, okay. Yes. So that answers my question. So they're able to shape shift. And not to shape shift, they are able to go into our dimension. So my big, maybe we come to my big thesis, which is totally new. My thesis is that Jesus taught the disciples how to induce a setter wave state in the brain. And we know now that the setter wave state, you can also take DMT or something like that, you see real beings. And there are a lot of scholars who agree to that. And my thesis is that Moses and the Old Testament

took DMT. There's also a scholar who talks about that. It goes with the Akhatsiya, you know, the Akhatsiya tree, which plays a major role in the Old Testament. I just read more about that. And had this contact to an interdimensional being. And because he was, Moses was very in a bad mood, you know, he just, not just, but he killed the man. So he was very aggressive. My thesis is that he attracted an evil being, which is Yabe. And Yabe, because it's very unstable to have, to be in the setter wave state and always meet the same guy, the same entity, Yabe came into that dimension. That's my thesis that some of these beings can come into our dimension. And then he gave him a perfect description how to build the ark of the covenant. And I have a, so that they have a stable connection, you know, between the cherubim, his face appears. So it's very keelier,

technical apparatus. And I can prove that, but from what is happening, I say some of them can join our dimension via an UAP or UFO. And this is what everybody is missing because they talk of demon and angels. I say there are demons and angels, but they cannot enter our reality. So you can talk to a demon on DMT or on which it can also, I'm not advocating to doing that. I'm just saying many people report, oh, I met demons and so on, but they cannot enter our reality. Maybe they can take over a body, but some can enter our reality. And that's my big thesis that because many people today's scientists describe that the UFOs or that aliens are inter-dimensional beings. So obviously they can change the dimension. And I'm saying, and there are also scientists to say that maybe the UFO is a vehicle to change the dimension and they appear out of nothing

and into nothing. So this is my thesis that Yabe was just one who was called by Moses and then he made him the offer to conquer the world. I mean, you have to go deeply into the Bible itself to see that, but there's a confusion of words here. Glory is the word they use, but the real word is Kepot, which means heavy. Maul will be clean, you did a lot about that. It's very clear there's something landing on the Mount Sinai. It spreads fire and it's loud and it settles on the Mount Sinai. How can a glory settle anywhere? So it's very clear that it's something distinct from Yabe. And the other thing is when he protects Moses, he says, go into a cave, I will protect you with the hand from the radiation. So it's very clear he protects him from something else. So the glory is not him, the glory is something else. And data he comes down has a red face, like also alien at ductees report. So it's very clear that

we are watching an event there, a UEP event. I mean, most of the people like Elfondaneck and he was the first one. He talked about the Ezekiel UFO, but they didn't make the transition because the Ezekiel UFO is also the UFO of Yabe. And I think because of the religion of all these people and they don't want to lose their Christian audience, they say, yeah, where there are ufus in the Old Testament. Yeah, but it's the UEP of Yabe and it's later also described. But then the people would lose their face. I mean, I can say you one thing, can tell you one thing. My paper is is like by certain people who I don't I think they want to signify you are right, but I cannot say it. I don't want to out them, of course, because they are giving me the signals, yeah, you're right, but I can say it. And why you cannot say it because it's a threat to religion. But in my book, I think I rescue Christianity because I say that Jesus taught

how to connect and to the real God. And the big difference here, what he's losing, you have to use love, love for one each other. That's a very important thing also in meditation. Most meditation gurus don't teach that. And so he taught us, this is how to connect to the real God. But in this process, it's possible that you catch a demon. That's why he also taught them how to cast out demons. And that's in the Bible because it's a dangerous process. It's not for everyone, you know, you need somebody who tells you that, like, you know, the shaman in South America, they are experts in that. I mean, there are also bad ones, but it's not it's not an easy process. If I break it down into its simplest components, you're making the argument that in the Old Testament, your way is not God. Are you saying that he is one of the sons of God? Is that correct? He's one of the sons of the Elohim. Of the Elohim? Okay. So what is the Elohim? Just for clarity.

Yeah, the Elohim. So what's interesting, we have these old Sumerian texts and orgaritic texts, where there's one head, El, or different names, and he has 70 sons. So he might also be a son of him directly. And in the beginning of the Bible, we see the world is divided into 17 nations. So that corresponds. So in that reading, Yabe would also be one of the sons, but here it gets complicated because the Elo of the old text doesn't have a son named Yabe. But there is a bow. And I just wrote an article that didn't publish it yet that and Yabe was, or the Israelites thought at a certain point that Yabe is bowed. So maybe it's the same guy, but this is harder to prove. I'm just saying there are interdimensional beings who ruled the planet at that time and

the Yabe was just one of them. Right. And then to add to that, you're saying that the, basically, the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament are not the same. Exactly. I'm going even further. It's possible that Jesus met Yabe, but he called him Satan. So Jesus is saying to the Israelites, your father is the devil. And later in the revelation, the devil is described as dragon. And in the Old Testament, Yabe is described as dragon. He's with fire and so on. And because he met Satan in the desert, maybe it was this dragon and later said, yeah, your father is the devil, but the desert, the desert episode is very important. So what did he do? He was fasting for 40 days and praying. We know now from modern science that praying, there is not one

study for both of us, for both of it, but contemplative praying can induce the tetraweights state and fasting. And I think they want to cover up that you have to do both because some of the passages where they do both are deleted from the Bible. I will make a new video about that in the future. So he did the things to get in the tetraweights state. And then being a piece and offer to him all the states of the world, all the kingdoms of the world. But in the Old Testament, Yabe already rules over all kingdoms of the world. And Moses said, yes, okay, we conquer the world. And Jesus said the opposite, no, we are conquering nothing. I reject you. My kingdom later, I says, my kingdom is not of this world. The kingdom of God is with you, which also means you have to know yourself, which is in the Old mystical traditions, very normal thing to say. And he even says to the disciples, I tell you, my disciples, the mysteries of the universe,

or the heavenly realms, but I don't tell it to the public. And the word used there is mystery area, which is a secret only for the initiates. So it's very clear here that he told them something else. And it's very clear that he meets an individual and entity who at least claims, I'm ruling over the whole world, but to make it a little bit more complicated, I'm sorry about that, but Satan works for Yabe in the Old Testament. So Satan is a subordinate agent of Yabe. Exactly. And he works as a prosecutor. I even think that it's only a chapter description, because it's a most of the time it says, has Satan, which means they're accuser, like in their prosecutor. I think it was just the prosecutor of the Elohim Council. So it might not even be a being, it might be just a chapter description. Yeah, that was the prosecutor. And if you look, he's doing things that prosecutor today does. For example, he does sting operations with Yope.

He tries to trick the people in disobeying God, disobeying Yabe, and then he punishes them. So it's exactly what a prosecutor does today, with us tricking us into committing crimes. So it's kind of funny, because I get backlash from Christians. Yeah, you are Satanist. You don't even know that Satan works for Yabe in the Old Testament. And they accuse me of spreading lies. If you don't know that Yabe works for Satan works for Yabe in the Old Testament, you know nothing. So the Satan of the New Testament is, or later in Christianity, is a totally different being than the Old Testament. There's no doubt about that. And so you were talking now about the episode in the desert. But I mean, something else that I've wondered is that the Bible says God cannot be tempted. But modern Christianity teaches you that Jesus is God. And if Jesus is God, and Jesus

was in the desert being tempted, something doesn't make sense. But exactly. Yeah, it's a good argument. I never, I never, I didn't, I don't have that argument in my book, but that's also a good argument. I mean, the whole, I don't know, I don't want to, I know how Christian, I mean, I understand it. You have a religion, you grow up, grow up in the religion. But I mean, it's for me, I'm sorry to say that it's ridiculous to say Jesus is God. It's a human being. He was a very special being. I'm praying to Jesus because that's another big topic. I think he taught Jesus, taught reincarnation. I also believe in reincarnation. But if you are such a good being, you are up there in another dimension and you can pray to him. So I'm praying to Jesus. But to say he is God, that's, that's blasphemy for me. I mean, I don't use the word blasphemy because they use it against me. But, but how can you say that this human being is God and created the universe? For me, it doesn't make any sense.

And it's also interesting. Yes. Well, sorry, but the, the argument is that he is the son of God. And therefore God is the father. And then you end up with this sort of mental gymnastics known as the Trinity, which, which then kind of explains why he sharted out on the cross because when he was being crucified, who was he sharting out to? Exactly. Shall I tell you what the Trinity is, but your few us will be shocked. So in my view, the Trinity is, so it's the father that is, that's clear, that's God. And the son of God, okay, I say it now, it's the title of the highest initiate. So it's the son of God, the highest initiate and the Holy Ghost is the spiritual world. So if you are the highest initiate in the in the in the Smiths mystery school, he found it, then you will learn how to connect to God and the spiritual world. And I'm struggling with the English words.

So I wanted to say proof, but you said before that there's no proof of that. But what shows this is that Jesus later says to the disciples, if you learn all of that, what I teach you, you will also be sons of God. So how is that possible if he's the son of God? He says in the Apocryphea and he says also in your testament, you will also be sons of God. The higher is the highest initiation if you really know what you're doing. And I think my explanation is at least as well as the strange Trinity, which I never understood. I mean, you also explained it, it's hard to understand, but do they mean that? I mean, it's just that's one funny thing that they are always trying to, you know, if I discuss with Christians or nobody discussed yet, but no, it says that and that, then say, yeah, but it doesn't say that. That's what the church tells you. And there's one good example for that. He taught William Carnation because one of the disciples asks him and then he

says, no, you have to be reborn to find to God. And then they say, what? Reborn in the same body and says, no, not in the same body because the body and the spirit is two separate things. So he's clearly talking about reincarnation there. And then what does the church make out of it? Yeah, that's a born again Christian. It's not a born again Christian. It's you have to be reborn. You have to be reincarnated. So I think it means that on your first run, you don't get to do everything right. So you have to be reborn. You have to because if you die, we know that from the near death experiences that you see your life, you know, what you did wrong and so on. And you feel the other person, you know, what you did to the other person because you have to learn empathy. And that's my opinion. Of course, that's my opinion. We are here to learn that, to learn empathy, because if you want to reunite the God, which is pure love, you have to learn to love. But that's not directly in the Bible, but I'm just summarizing it. But it makes sense because the

most important thing, that's also interesting because the most important thing Jesus said is still valid. Love your neighbor like yourself. And first, you know, believe in God and love your neighbor like yourself. But most people don't grasp what it means. You have to do that to learn love, to get up to God because God is pure love. And that's what you have to learn. He also says, for example, who uses the sword will die by the sword. But this is not true in this world. For example, a rocket fella or the Rothschild, they never died of any sword, but they killed many people indirectly. So it doesn't happen in this world. It can also only happen if you appear again on earth. Then you stand to you, what you did to others. And yeah, I hope it wasn't too complicated. It's hard to jump. Jump point all of that. You make the point that Jesus revolted against secret societies. But didn't he himself have a secret society in the form of

these disciples because you've also said that he had a mystery school. He spoke in parables in public, but with these disciples, he spoke directly. Yes, that's a good point. So there's a difference between a mystery school and a secret society. The secret societies are the ones who are ruling us to keep everything secret that we don't know that they rule us. But they know the same secrets. So they also know how to connect to the spiritual world, but they are connecting to demons. And yeah, we have to believe it or not. Of course, I tell a lot of examples in my book. Some of them say it more or less clearly. But he countered that and said, no, I teach my people how to connect to the rear-guard, but he couldn't say that openly because that's like the initial mystery schools weren't something bad. The initial mystery schools is we are teaching the mysteries of the

universe, but you have to be worthy because if you have an absolutely idiot in front of you, he will never learn that or if you have a really bad guy at psychopath, so you have to select. And that's what Jesus did. He selected his disciples and said, okay, you can do it, but you cannot. So the motive of the secret is a different one. Of course, the secret societies like the Illuminati and so on. They also say you got to be selected, but they select. If you are evil, they take you when you are psychopath and you have to kill people, you know, to get up or you have to be rich like George Bush, you know, the Skull and Bone Society, you're tapped because you're rich, you're already in a in a bad family. So it's the reason for the for the for the secrecy is something else and they teach there how to oppress the people, but you also need to be secret about teaching the liberation of it because otherwise you are hunted down. If you are the God of the Old Testament, then who is the God of the New Testament?

Yeah, I would say that's the real God. So it's not in physical entity or something. It's the creator of the universe. So the real God. And also if you do that meditation, for example, let's take a harmless example, not with drugs, you feel that connection to this God. And also that's the same. Everybody, not almost everybody who had a near death experience tells you, you feel this overwhelming love. You feel it with meditation, you feel it with certain drugs, if not done wrong, and you feel it with the near death experience. That's and they also say you can't describe it. So if you don't do it yourself, the meditation, you cannot describe it. But that's the connection to the real God. And he's not like the Elohim, you know, people fighting, he's not somebody who fights others like, yeah, they fight others all the time. The God doesn't do that. It just welcomes you if you're a good person or learned to be a good person. That's the

theory of the guy who wrote the book I was examining after a scene. So there's a proof of that. But I think it's logical that if you learn the lesson that you ascend, and he also says, that's also very interesting, there is no hell, there is a sheol. And in the sheol, you experience what you did to others. But if you repent, then you are ready to go again to be reborn. And there's verse in the Bible which says of the philosophers, I would have to look it up again if you want to go deeper to that. But I will make a video about that. So the sheol is not eternal hell. So and maybe the next verse is why are the churches doing that? Because you do not need a church for that. Because it's individual. You have to connect to God. You have to examine yourself. Know yourself. Be brutally honest. Most people aren't including me. It's very hard to be honest to you to see your own mistakes and make them better. But it cannot be done for you by the church. The church, a little bit like the state offers you that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Like in the Catholic church,

pray this prayer, it's forgiven. That's the service they offer. But of course, it's not how it works. There can be not a priest. And yeah, forgive him. You told me. Yeah, you will confess. No, no, no, you have to work on yourself. Nobody can do that. And that's it's not that you don't need a church. You need to examine yourself. And that can, the church is doing more or less the opposite of that. Yeah. Okay. You trust. I don't know if you spoke, speak to a lot of Christians. They always say, yeah, you just repent and believe in Jesus. And that's it. You have to believe in Jesus. As if it doesn't matter what you are doing. I mean, that's another big point because we are on it. Because Jesus said, you only come to God via me. I think it means only if you do exactly what I told you. I think that's what he meant. But you don't know, you know, the gospel is very written much later. But just logic now, logic. Do you really think that a man or a woman who is always good to other

people? And I always have other people. And is a Hindu or a black guy in Africa or wherever, and he doesn't go to heaven because Christianity is not available in this village. I mean, now we could theoretically everybody could be a Christian, but it's so then Jesus would be a narcissist. So saying that you only, you only come to heaven if you believe in Jesus, that's that's already an excluding, you know, ideology. Why should somebody who's a good and not come into heaven? And also the idea that God is the same and he doesn't change. And yet in the Old Testament, he's pretty angry and he destroys a lot of stuff and he asks parents to kill their kids. Exactly. So I didn't come to that yet. So he is ordering children to be killed, the children of Amalek. He orders and that also happened, you know, to kill the first born in Egypt. And I'm even

proposing, and you have to look into all my sources as a sub-stag. That they sacrifice children to Yabeh in the beginning because there's one saying there's a, yeah, well, I allowed that, that they know that I am Yabeh, but now I changed my opinion. I think it was just written in because they changed that. So Judaism involved and they didn't sacrifice children anymore. They had to explain that. And then they write in Yabeh, well, I changed my mind, but the verses are very clear. All all first born are mine. And you know, he asked Abraham to sacrifice Isaac and there's a Talmudic tradition, by the way, where he did that, but why did he even ask that because it was normal at that time. And one thing, or, but you know, almost nobody noticed, he demands 32 merchants for himself. So there's a verse where he says, yeah, kill all the, I mean, kill all the children, but not the female merchants. So all children are killed, but not the female merchants.

And the Israelites get 16,000 and he gets 32. What does a God want with, with merchants, with female merchants? I mean, and he also asked him for gold, silver, yeah, in cattle. And even alone the fact that they sacrifice cattle or animals to Yabeh. I mean, what God would want, animals are also the creation of God. Why would he want that sacrifice? But the same thing is what the Satanists or how it's these groups, vampires or whatever, they sacrifice in the secret societies. You know, this rapper even, it's known that he sacrificed the bird, who was the rapper recently got sentenced, a ridiculous sentence, the famous rapper. I think it was known that he sacrificed bros, for example. So the Satanists today are also sacrificing animals. And nobody sees

the parallel that sacrificing animal is already evidence that it's not God you're sacrificing too, because why would they go and of course, God of the New Testament that was your question, he doesn't demand any of that. Not any of that. Where does the Vatican fit in here? So there was an early church father, it was Marcion, and he told the people, it's obvious the guy in the Old Testament is not God. So he wrote his own gospel more or less, and then what we know now is Catholic church, they said they pushed him aside and later persecuted them. And you always have to think about heretics, I'm also called a heretic. Heretics were killed at the time. So you don't kill people who say illogical things. You only kill people who say illogical things. And so the Vatican is the main source for one of that. And of course, you could argue that the first, yeah, the first

sources, the pop, they were Jewish, like Peter, if you call him the first one. So there's also a debate about that. One of my main points is, why do we think that Jesus is the Messiah, the Jewish Messiah, because the gospels were written by Jews who wanted to con, according to a official history, it was written by Jewish writers. And they wanted to convince the fellow Jews that this is the Messiah from the Old Testament. And that's still teaching, but it's very clear that the Jewish Messiah, Messiah is an earthy ruler from the house of David. That's why they wrote him, wrote in that he's also from the Jesus from the house of David, but it doesn't match her. And so that's clearly an earthy ruler. That is how this Messiah is described in the Old Testament, is clearly not Jesus, because he says, my kingdom is not of this world. So we have the problem here that you do not know what this two is writers wrote in to convince us of that. But only the one fact,

Jesus abolished the Messiah's law. That's official because in Christianity you don't have the 613 mitzvahs, which in part are crazy, you know, don't work on Saturday, not even, it's interpreted as you cannot even push a switch of light off and on. That's how they interpreted it now. There's a communion who may talk about that, the Jewish one. So of course most of these rules are senseless, but how could he abolish 613 rules of java, is he believed in java? And he not only says, do you want to have more arguments why java is not a Jesus father, because I have a collection here, what he also says. So he says that the father of Israel is the devil, and he also says, I don't find it, I may get out of my head. So he also says that who would give

their people snakes if they are hungry? And then the Old Testament, java does exactly that. The Israel is a hungry and he sends snakes. So that's one more hint that this is not the same God. And I have more on my subspec all for free by the way. So, but the question which arises here, yeah, but there are in the gospels texts which refer to the Old Testament. And I'm saying, yeah, these are the texts that were written in by Jewish writers to convince the other Jews that he is their Messiah. But all the other things do not fit. And from a reason they had a discussion on Acts about, yeah, but here in this verse it says, he teached everything in open, there's no secret. So we have a contradiction of the other verse where he says that. But if you have a contradiction, either you say that the whole religion is nonsense because we have these contradictions and do you have many contradictions? Or are you developing a theory why is that? My theory is,

it's obvious, it was not the same guy, but java is not the God, and there's a rest of it in the gospels. But the other things were added. So there's a theory behind it that explains the contradictions. The other, the Christians who say that they don't have an explanation for the contradiction, you know what I mean? So what is the role of the Kabbalah? Yeah, so that's a very big topic because they interpret the Bible, mainly the Old Testament as a plan. There's one guy who is very deep into that that's Christopher John Björgnes and also a German colleague of mine went deep into that Wolfgang Eggert, but Björgnes goes deeper into that. But the important thing to know for everybody is that Kabbalah is the ideology of the Freemasons. So when everybody is talking about Freemasons, they are talking about Kabbalists. And nobody tells you that. You can have 100 books about the Freemasons,

oh it's the Freemasons, it's the Kabbalists. So you have to look into the Kabbalah. And what already you can read Gershom's school, which is the Kabbalah expert, Jewish German guy, he's dead now, but he's the accepted authority. According to him, the Soha, Soha says, the world is only repaired, Tikon Olam, when all the nations of the world vanish, when they are destroyed, so meaning all other nations. So all other nations, meaning all Gentiles need to die before the world is repaired. That's just a fact that he says that. And Christopher John Björgnes goes even further, I had interviewed with him recently, he says the end goal is that only 600,000 Androgun artificially created beings will survive, 600,000, with the 600,000 original Jewish souls. Well that's even crazier. But it's very clear that they are

working on destroying the nations. And if you look, who is destroying the nations right now? I mean, who is doing that? What religion or ethnicity do have the guys who do the immigration? Is that really an accident that you want? That it's in even the Old Testament, it's about destruction of taking over the nations. So it's an Old Testament plot to take over or destroy other nations. And the guys doing it have this overwhelmingly, this ethnicity, is that then an accident, you know, or is it just because they are doing what they are told in their mind what the Kabbalah tells them. But with the whole Kabbalah thing, it's more complicated. That's his Chinese guy who says he's a professor, he's stealing from Christopher John Björgnes, but he's on the surface of that. And with Gorg at Markoke, I always wrote about that 10 years ago,

but it's a little bit complicated. But to make it easy, they want the Christian nations and the Muslim nations to destroy each other. And but also two thirds of Jerusalem, and then their Messiah comes. But there are other people who think there will be a world government and not so many people die in the in the time mood. It says every Jew will have I think 2,800 slaves more or less. You can interpret it, interpret it in this way. So that's also one of the reasons why I do this because almost everybody will die, also most Jews. And that's also what Christopher says. It's like I'm writing the book not only for Gentiles, I'm also writing it for Jews. And of course, I don't think that this plan will all come to fruition. But I mean, that's what they are working on. And you can read it, you know, and Chabad-Luba, which for example, I'm sure you know that is connected to Putin, to connect to Trump, and to Netanyahu. And you can go on the website

of Chabad-Luba, which where they say that all other nations come from the evil side, you know, and have evil souls and all of that. So it's like crazy that you even let somebody into the White House, like Jerry Kushner, who follows who follows an ideology that all other nations are evil. I mean, it's just crazy. To summarize some of your points, you've argued that Yahweh or the God of the Old Testament is not the same God of the New Testament. You've argued that Jesus rejected Yahweh and that he had a mystery school, as it were. So he would give parables publicly, but then teach more directly to disciples. You also brought up UFOs and aliens. He didn't really expand on that. Yeah, right. So the interesting thing is what we are seeing now playing it all out in the open. Because I told you before, in the third wave state, you can contact this interdimensional beings. That's exactly what they are trying now. There are people

like Roskulta, they don't know if you know him, and Dr. Steve Greer, they say you can summon aliens by meditation. So they are doing right now what they did back then in the Bible and the Old Testament, and that confirms it more or less. So, but there's an effort now from the Christian side. They are saying that's all the angels and demons. And there's some of your all guys who don't believe in angels and demons, but I'm saying both is correct. They're angels and demons. They cannot change the dimension, but what demon would need a UFO to go into our dimension? That's just crazy. I mean, there could be aliens who are mistaken for demons, but it's another phenomenon. It's not the demon phenomenon. If you can go into a UFO and go somewhere, a demon doesn't need that. So that's the Christian side says now, you can talk about cars and says, yeah, it's demons.

What demon needs a UAP? It's crazy. So both both is true. And I think, or there's a possibility that they're good and bad aliens, of course, and that the government has already worked together with the bad ones. It was funny because there is a professor who worked for the Israeli Defense Department. And he said, yeah, we already have contact through aliens. But this can be the good aliens because they are killing children and gathers right now sacrificing children. So I was speculating this might be reptiles, reptilians because they already say, I don't know if you saw it, they saw they say there are reptilian aliens. And as I say, there's a possibility that the other was one because he's described as a dragon. And he also doesn't want to show his face instead they put the snake on the pole. So this is a possibility. It's not a proof of something. But so we are more or less in the end came of all of that because now it comes out.

There are aliens, there are reptilians. They say they are a four, you know, the blonde runs, the gray ones, and the insectoids. So it's so fascinating for me that we are living in that time where, you know, I don't know what, what do you think, for example, about UAP? So what do you think about it? I don't know. Yeah, these are the same people who are doing that. So it's hard to describe them because scientists doesn't really describe the whole thing. Scientists are a politically movement who wanted to state. But that all it all ties together. So I think there is a reason why they attack Iran right now. Yeah, I don't want to go too deep into that. But it all ties together. And they wanted this war and they needed Charlie Krueck out of the way. And I don't know if you cover the whole case. But what I'm really angry about that nobody

realizes that. So I can say it now. That's why I told him, please ask me for the Charlie Krueck questions. We have the Google searches. And I told you already, I come from a science standpoint. And most people do not realize how what a precise science statistic is, stochastic. It's a very precise science. So if you have a combination of properties, or I begin at the Google searches, we have all these Google searches from Israel. So from Israel, we're searched, the doctors, the lawyers, Tyra Robinson himself, and so on. And then we have the Google searches even in Hebrew for the exact address, you know, Sopetus and Anna Eskopal set it on his show. And but it's ignored by Candace Owens by Takakaz and all the others who are writing about that while doing shows about it. It's an impossibility that this is all coincidence. And I want to explain that.

You have to combine the probability of all of that. So if there is, for example, a 0.5 50% probability that somebody in Israel searches for that, that's okay. That's 50.50 that can happen. But you have to combine the probability with the lawyer being searched, with the doctor being searched, with the, what was searched, the exact address and so on. Even if you say that's all 50.50, you have to do 0.5 times 0.5 times 0.5 and so on. So in the end, you have a probability of 0.0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1% this is the coincidence. So scientifically speaking, it's not impossible, but in layman terms, it is impossible. So we already know that Israel is behind it. And that hides, of course, in, in to let's put it this way in the end time scenario. They want the end times. They want the fight, go against Markov, and that's why they need the Iran War. It's one of the

reasons. And so it's all playing out. The old biblical stories are all playing out and playing side. And everything is connected to each other. So what's the moral of the story? Learn how to laugh in one thing. Because it's like there's so much into, and that love your neighbor like yourself, like yourself is also part of it. You have to love yourself, but for that, you have to know yourself. And for that, you have to better yourself. You know, you have to be a better human being. That's how you fight that. But in terms of politics, the politics, okay, should I go into that? Because I don't, I want the stateless society, but I don't know if we have time for that. Yeah. Okay. So that's also a very important thing. This commandment, love your neighbor like yourself, also excludes a state logically,

because a state drops you via taxes. Then the other argument, yeah, but I didn't agree to it. You did not agree to be text. So this little commandment already says, Jesus was talking, and I showed that in my book, was talking about a stateless society without any rulers. Nobody has to write to rule over you because you didn't ask him. Yeah. If you do like in a company, that's okay. The CEO tells you what to do, but you joined the company. That's why you have to do that. I also most of the time, if I join a company and I'm not satisfied, I say, yeah, but it's, it's okay that, for example, I write for a magazine, compact magazine, and they have a slightly different approach to Russia. More friendly approach to Russia. But I'm saying, yeah, but I'm working here. And the editor-in-chief says, well, I don't want you to write for Russia. Then I do it. You know what I mean? So that's all voluntarily. And a society should have no rulers.

And that's, that comes out of the love your neighbor like yourself. I mean, if you want to argue with me about it, I'm happy to do that. But it's super easy to understand. Nobody has the right to rob me of anything. So the one simple rule explains also the society which should have, which is a stateless society. You've got an interdimensional God called Yahweh. And he is what we understand today, the God of the Old Testament, but he's not the same God of the New Testament. And he enslaved and ancient people and was very angry and aggressive and violent and vicious and all those things. Jesus came to liberate humanity by revealing an inner path to genuine, shall we say, divinity. And of course, he was killed for it. The church, when I mentioned, asked you about the Vatican buried his secret, secret societies. And shall we say,

governments have kept those communication techniques that Jesus taught for themselves. And that kind of dark, overarching power that has grown over the centuries has become scented around the state of Israel. Yes, the first one was very good. And Israel, of course, it's sent, they will have, or they want the world government there. But it's not so much the location of Israel. It's the people, the Carbolis. It's not so much. And they don't care, frankly, they don't care. It's Israel. They just want to rule the world. I don't really care for that. If Israel doesn't exist, it doesn't matter that one world government will still the attempt to impose that one world government. Exactly. And there's also, maybe I know you want to end, but there is also always a fight within the mafia.

So the transhumanism is already in the cabalai, why are the story of the Golan? But we have a new kind of people, for example, maybe Elon Musk doesn't believe in any of that. He says he's agnostic. I don't know if it's true, you never know. But I think there is this motive to control all the people without the religious stuff. They just want to control people. And there's a fight. And if the powers to be discovered that we're all going to die or what, I think they have a problem here. I don't know how powerful the religious guy, guys, where's the just psychopaths who just want to rule the world for their own reasons. So it's very hard to say. So for example, Freemasonry in itself, I think it also was taken because Freemasonry in the beginnings were very much against collectivism. That's why the US constitution

is so freedom-loving. So there was also kind of take over. So it's all these people who want to rule everybody. But they do not necessarily have their religious background. How powerful is the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican, the Pope? Yeah. So there are many that say they are in the center of this. I think that's a total distraction of my, okay, my thing is full. I hope it still works. It's destruction of the real power which are the catalysts. I mean, it's not Catholic donors who find in small sites. It's APEC. So I think that's it. I don't think that the Vatican has much power anymore. I mean, the churches were mostly converted to in the beginning. It's also interesting. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, it's one class of psychopaths, you know, who are all in

these secret societies. I mean, the Vatican keeps a lot of secrets. Officially has a secret arch-elf, which is a joke. And Freemasonry really went against the Catholic Church at one time. I also have that in my book. So it's a little bit more complicated. But I don't think it's the Vatican. Right. I don't think so. Okay. Oliver, how can I follow your work? On X, Oliver Janich, if it's in English, telegram is mostly German. So the best thing is to follow me on X. And yeah, and buy my books. The open secret is the name. And also you're on substack. Yes, I'm also on substack. But you see everything on X. That's why that's the easiest thing. And all my substacks are articles of free. So I just put it there because they took my website and then I said I put it on substack. All right. Oliver Janich, thank you for joining me in the trenches. Thank you for having me.

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