JF 4144: How To Underwrite Oil And Gas Like A Pro ft. Bob Fraser

Pascal Wagner interviews Bob Fraser, CFO and chief macro strategist at Aspen Funds, to break down how oil and gas can (or can’t) fit inside a diversified portfolio. Bob explains the three parts of the industry (upstream, midstream, downstream), why most LP horror stories come from drilling risk, and why he prefers buying already-producing, non-operated working interests to reduce geology/engineering/operator risk. He also walks through what tax benefits investors often misunderstand (IDCs vs. depletion allowance), the importance of low leverage + hedging in a volatile commodity business, and the key red flags he’d watch for when underwriting deals (vertical wells, unrealistic pricing assumptions, and weak operator quality). Bob FraserCurrent role: CFO and Chief Macro Strategist, Aspen FundsBased in: Overland Park, KansasSay hi to them at: Website: https://investlikeabillionaire.org Company: https://aspenfunds.us LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobfraser10/ Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices