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Hello and welcome everybody to another edition of the By-Ram podcast.

I'm your host James Graham and today I'm joined by a very fresh looking Charlie White.

I'm back to you, me back from Las Vegas.

I feel incredibly fresh compared to how I felt the other couple of Las Vegas

experiences made so it's good to see you face.

Yeah, likewise, it was all over the billboards in Las Vegas.

Charlie White is doing 75 hard.

It felt like everywhere you went, you could all you heard about was your little

challenge, which you probably weren't as disciplined as you're supposed to be

on.

So I think technically you're back to day one.

Well, I didn't drink.

That was one of the most important part and that was the thing I was telling

people about that I wasn't drinking and I didn't, yeah, successfully didn't drink.

Did I train every day?

No, I didn't.

Did I read every day?

I didn't read any days.

Did I eat well, not necessarily, but I didn't drink.

And that's the biggest challenge of Las Vegas, really.

I love being over there, but I'm so happy to be home.

Like being home and it's good to come back to what I think is one of,

if not the greatest city in the world, like Sydney is, it's pretty amazing to come back to.

I've been like when I lived in Liverpool, the way that there was times where I was away

and the idea of like going home, although like the people there were great.

It was like, oh, it's a miserable time to go.

But like you come back to Sydney, it's blue skies.

It's, yeah.

Life's pretty good here.

I think we should be more proud of Australia as a whole.

Like I don't think it's Australia and it's kind of because we're sort of a humble nation,

but we're not like the other America and they're like so proud of America.

Everywhere you go, it's just okay, good to America, blah, blah.

But like our country Australia is much, much better than America, like significantly better.

Like for all those, you come back to Sydney, Brisbane, like two incredible places to live,

like especially with everything that's happening in the world right now and, you know,

over different conflicts, you realise how lucky you are to live in Australia.

Yeah, we're not totally immune from all that, but like, and I'm sure there's plenty of people

like to highlight some incidences and neighbourhoods that, you know,

maybe you wouldn't want to venture down or get into conflict with people, but I think it's,

it is pretty good here. We've got it very good.

And it's not lost on me either as a foreign national.

I'm born in England as well.

So I go to England, you know, every few years to go visit family and England's

griming comparison to Australia.

And all honesty, and that's no offense.

I love England. I love England.

But compared to Australia, it's just like a cheese.

You can consider yourself Australian.

No, yeah, hesitation means no.

No, I don't consider myself Australian, like, or out and out Australian.

But the older I get, the more and more Australian I feel.

Does that make sense?

No, like I support England in sport, but the more, like I feel more Aussie,

then I'm English, like we've got Jordan here, who by the way, Jordan has

brought a 1 kilogram tub of hummus in.

It is what is incredible for an individual.

You think about all the offerings at the supermarkets and, you know,

that they look to cater for families.

And they also cater for people that live by themselves.

And that is represented with the saving size and the size of the item.

So if you want a little bit of hummus for an individual,

oh, look, there's a little pot there, ready made, cut up some vegetables,

or can just dunk one and dunk what single serving thanks for coming.

There's also got the 1.25 kilo hummus and Jordan's gone with that.

The one point, yeah.

And it was funny because I even, I said to her,

I'll make you want some lunch.

So I'm going to grab some lunch, anyone want anything?

He said, no, no, I'm good.

I've got mine.

It was just cucumber and carrots with a 1 kilogram tub of hummus.

It's not a lunch.

But he's saying value for money.

But I reckon it's one of those.

It goes.

It ends up costing you because you just took it out.

My dad, right, supermarkets in England called Asda.

They used to do like the whoopsie corner or the whoopsie aisle,

like basically things were going out of date.

Dad would go shopping at night at like nine o'clock at night,

come home with all this whoopsie stuff.

It's like, Dad, it all goes off tonight.

He's out for it.

And the freezer sun, then put it in the freezer and never use it.

It's like, it's sometimes, it's only a bargain if you use it.

It's no point in saying, oh, I got this, this pizza is about to go.

I got it, it was, it was five quid and now I've got it for a quid.

But Dad, it's going in the freezer and it's never going to get eaten.

So you've not saved four quid.

You've spent, you've donated a quid to Asda.

Like, what are you doing?

And he's got four days to eat the hummus.

So it's a kilogram of hummus.

Maybe we're putting our socials on the story to get the hummus if you're interested.

But he's got four days to eat it.

That's 250 grams of hummus per day.

Yeah.

Because it's got to be consumed within four days of opening.

If you're subscribed to that, like what it says on the, on the packet,

sometimes you've got to gamble, sometimes it's worth, you know,

if the milk's out of date,

got to have a little sniff.

I don't know.

Yeah, have a little sniff of it.

I think you can roll the dice.

So I rolled the dice on Greek yogurt.

Greek yogurt, they goes off quick, man.

But it's like it actually is fine for a long time.

Yeah.

I wonder why it's once it's opened,

it then increases the air exposure.

I don't know. We should probably create some sort of device

that allows things to be opened and they can be our barons, main revenue driver.

Yeah. I think with eggs, you can put them in water.

Eggs are fine.

Eggs, you can just, eggs are open.

They're open, basically, aren't they?

No, but they have a date on them, but I think you're supposed to put them in water.

And if they rise, they're all good if they sink from up, but interesting.

You can remind you, I can't tell the story,

but you can do that with something else.

If it's good, remember, I won't tell that story on here.

It's not appropriate.

But we should say you've got me, you've got me in three.

I may say it though.

No, okay. Don't worry.

All right. Okay.

Well, let's leave that one behind.

But we could maybe mention it on the page.

Patreon we could mention it on.

We definitely could.

So the Patreon is going to be live now if you're listening.

And there's a ton of content.

You're basically going to get two bonus shows a week.

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One will be dropped on Monday and it will be a James Graham question and answer.

So if you're on the Patreon, you get to ask Jimmy any questions from the round of footy.

So that will be the Monday edition.

And then you'll also get an episode on Friday,

which is going to be a lot of extra footy chat, obviously.

But also you need to get some non footy stuff in there as well.

Some life stuff.

You need to get to go deep inside the mind of James Graham.

I look at all the sports, both the serious side and the funny side of sports.

Yeah.

From the winter Olympics, the beef in the caling,

like the little extra finger touch from some of those cailas.

Like we're going to have a deep dive into that.

Also interestingly, I was reading one of the British and Irish lines.

Players, when he was chaired by Sonny Bill,

and lied or basically memorized some words to say to the doctor.

So he passed the concussion test and have a little bit of a chat around things like that.

And yeah, all things, you know, all things sports,

because there's some interesting stories out there that are not too dissimilar to what's happening in the NRL.

That I think we can all learn from and have a bit of fun with.

Definitely.

Yeah, it's going to be good.

And also basically as part of that monthly,

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That will be cool.

That's what that is worth doing.

We've had a, we've done it when we've hosted a few sports lunches

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Definitely early access to merch, early access to live shows.

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Where'd you get your coffee from?

I get a cold brew coffee.

So I pay you from six bucks.

I mean, I was going to say that line gets thrown away.

I'll just for the price of a cup of coffee.

It's your coffee.

More than $5.

Yeah, right?

You're almond milk.

No.

No, it's probably about, you know what?

My coffee's probably about six bucks these days, cold brew.

Yeah.

So it's cheap.

Well, let's say this.

It's cheaper than a cup of coffee.

Yeah.

I think you've got to get, you've got to get cheaper than a cup of coffee.

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Charlie, it seems strange to say this,

but there's a lot riding on this game

between the Manly Seagals at home

against last year's Walden Spooners, the Newcastle Nights.

Yeah, a lot of pressure already on the Manly Seagals and Anthony Seabob.

The Seagals paying $1.57.

The Newcastle Nights $2.45, of course, without Fletcher Sharp.

And the line is four and a half points.

Yeah, Charlie, like you say, a lot riding on this one.

I want to stay away from the match betting

and just go focus purely on the tri scores

for my same game multi.

I'm going to throw in Dom Young anytime,

Cola anytime, and Tommy Toborovitch anytime,

which is paying $8.55.

I like your thinking Jimmy,

it's going to be a hot Sunday afternoon,

26 degrees at Brookie Oval,

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Yeah, probably should have threw in the overs

on the total point,

but I want to stick with those three tri scores,

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But the show today, Jimmy,

let's start with Zach Lomax,

because this morning he's been spotted

at Rugby Australia HQ.

Seems as though he might be heading to Rugby Union.

Obviously, the news came out that he won't be going

to the Melbourne storm.

He has come up with an agreement

with the Parameter Eels that he'll be able.

He'd only control his future now until the end of 2028.

So it's one year less than currently was agreed.

There was a $750,000 transfer fee

on the table from the Melbourne storm.

They also offered to take Ryan Madison

off the Parameter Eels hands

alongside a transfer fee.

Ryan Madison rejected that opportunity to go to Melbourne,

but it seems as though Zach Lomax NRL career

is over for now.

We're Zach and this, you know,

being spotted at Rugby League.

Sorry, Rugby Union, Australia.

They'd already been an offer from Rugby Union.

But maybe you understand, League,

and now that doors shut, he's gone back to Union,

and maybe he goes there for two years

and then comes back to League

when he no longer is at the Becken call of Parameter.

So his contract finished or would have finished

with the Parameter Eels in 28.

So he's available to play in 28.

Yeah, so it's just 26 and 27,

which is coincidentally with the World Cup,

maybe they'll look at that, but I don't know

that much about Rugby Union,

but it seems to me like they've gone first,

sui Lee, he, and Angus Crichton,

in their sense of partnership.

So I don't actually know if there's any room for Zach.

Could you play on the wing, maybe?

Maybe play on the wing, yeah, maybe.

Which is, you know, something that arguably NRL

don't want to see, but...

Also, he might not make the wings spot,

because they've got Max Jorgensen,

who's meant to be a superstar.

I'm not a big row union guy,

but he's meant to be now a superstar.

He's meant to be awesome.

And then they got Mark Noongini to us as well.

Exactly.

And then, yeah, maybe he's not going to play full back

at Rugby Union.

Rugby Australia, you're going to put a bid in for him,

like they're not going to subsidize any deal.

Probably not, no.

No.

With the interesting wording,

like it didn't go to court,

power of knocked off a year,

and they're still open to offers.

I think we'll see some clubs really start to

seriously consider it.

You know, one of those teams that could probably do with him,

I don't think he'd go back, but it'd be the dragon.

Yeah, I was like, you'd look at the,

you're looking at who's screaming out for like,

an out and out winger.

It'd be the dragons, wouldn't it?

Yeah, it would be.

But then would Zach go back,

but also would they want Zach back?

It didn't end amazingly well, did it?

But Shane Flanagan and Zach Lomax, I mean...

He was performing pretty well.

He was performing amazingly well.

He was performing very well.

Yeah.

And look, we don't want to see players of any ability,

of any ability,

not be allowed access to the game,

and I'm a bit torn between the player movement,

player power, clubs haven't too much control,

but I don't think you can strip Zach Lomax of agency

from this situation.

Like, yeah, we want him in the NRL.

Zach's someone who I've played with,

considering my friend, I've got a lot of time for him,

but, you know, he made this call to go to a rugby union

like the advice that he got was shocking really.

Like, even if you look back at the timeline of events,

why would you ask for a release before the tournament was announced?

Yeah, crazy.

Or the league was announced.

Like, it just seems so badly advised.

And I get how you can get your head turned.

Look, I left one competition and came to another.

So I understand that, but, you know, I did it when my contract

had run out.

I did have an opportunity to come prior to that.

But, but I didn't pursue it for a number of different reasons.

But Zach's in this, you know, you think about him and his

welfare and his family.

And, you know, the thing's going through his head,

but I'll go to court and it'll get sorted.

And yeah, the storm, they seem confident.

And, you know, he'd be very dejected now.

And I think he just wants to play some sort of sport.

Yeah.

If he doesn't get a deal sorted, I was thinking about this.

Not that new South Wales are like short about time backs,

but they're not particularly like jam packed of wingers.

Imagine if Zach Lomax plays origin.

That would be incredible.

It doesn't have an NRL team.

That would be incredible.

Because if, if, if,

Para Hall does registration, can, can he play,

he can't play like new South Wales copy either, can he?

I think so, no.

No, no, he could.

No, unless they get permission to play there.

Yeah.

But he wouldn't be getting paid.

So that would be like,

it's like, that would be incredible if Zach Lomax decided

to do something like that.

Well, it's not a new South Wales.

So who have you got in front of you?

You've got Coraz,

Toto, Fox.

Fox.

It's easy out at the moment.

Obviously, Brock's hand should be back for origin.

You would assume unless something

just disastrous with his hand.

No one's going to need to, I say.

Yep, yep.

And then Daniel Tupu, maybe.

Tupu, yeah.

Or, they got some options, don't they?

Yeah, they've got to call them options.

Yeah.

But that would be incredible.

He'd get picked over all of them, as he did last year.

No, it's, I flipped a little bit on this.

So I got the start.

I was like very much pro parameter.

And I was, you know, very,

I very much thought thought they were in their right

to do what they did.

I started to turn a little bit.

Just now that you're like,

well, Parameter have one out of this.

Parameter have done well.

They freed up the money.

They brought a Jonah,

peasant and Brian Kelly.

They were offered $750,000 for a player.

That is, they is an easily a fair enough transfer fee

for a player.

And they're still not letting it happen

but this feels like now it's become more of a

a dick swinging contest and an ego thing

rather than actually, you know,

doing what is the fair and just thing.

You know what Charlie, I think you've hit the nail

on the head there, like,

yes, there's enough to the party that you think,

just let him go.

You just wonder how bad the blood is between these two

football clubs.

Obviously, the, the, the O nine grand final comes to mind.

Yeah.

Well, I think that's a huge part of it.

Like, is it almost a payback for that?

Is it, we can never do, do business with you guys.

It's just a big now is, is this a, you know,

a similar situation to a Nick Pilates and Isaac Moses.

We are just done.

We're not going to help each other out.

There's no mutual benefit.

But benefit shoes here.

Yeah.

We're just, we're just going to play hardball.

Well, when you think when we had Heidi on here

on the podcast, he was so anti the storm.

Like that, I think Paramount of fans will hate them.

They especially, the fact they still celebrate

those trophies as well.

Like that would annoy Paramount every single time

they do that.

Maybe, maybe that's the next play for Melbourne

to come to the negotiating table.

We'll, we'll, we'll take down any,

I'm being serious here.

I know you're laughing thinking like,

this is a bit of a joke, but maybe storm to get them

on, say, look, I'll tell you what we'll do at any,

we'll never celebrate.

I know again, we won't, we won't celebrate 09.

And any sort of recognition of that in the core

part will be deleted.

Yeah.

I mean, it's got to be more to, I know I saw,

I think I saw Ben Dobin on the podcast say

that Jason Riles and Frank Penese,

you don't have a great relationship.

I don't know if that's true or not.

Um, but yeah, it's, it's a, it's a shame.

Because if it wasn't Melbourne,

do you think he'd be back in the NRL now?

I do.

I do the Gold Coast title saying 100%.

Like, I'm, again, power are within their rights.

It's up to them to decide.

You, you don't have to take the highest bid

or the, or the best quality play.

You can, you can dictate they've got all the power.

You know, really if, if Zach and his team had

their time over, the exit clauses would have looked

very different.

Yeah.

With, with some actual fees.

But obviously this is how convinced they were of it.

Well, we don't care.

Yeah, because we're not going to be,

we're not going to need to, uh, to use this.

Are you laughing at the flyer?

It's just flying.

Yeah.

Um, they obviously felt very strongly that this was,

you know, put as many years as you like.

I'm, I'm going to this new competition.

Yeah.

Structured it, um, like more, like, here's the fee.

Mm-hmm.

Like, you know, we hold your registration at the price

of half a million dollars.

It can be bought out.

Yeah.

Terrible, um, managerial advice from Clinton Shikofsky,

who obviously manages not just Zach Lomix,

but Ryan Papenhausen as well.

So clearly he's a common denominator there

in the two players that no longer in the NRL.

But you look at all these other clubs that could go after him.

And I don't think there's many other NRL clubs that...

Perth Bears, man.

Perth Bears, yeah, but that's for next year,

for this year, for this year, for this year.

I think...

And what are Perth Bears going to do, though,

in terms of giving Paramounter a player back?

They won't be able to.

No, but they could, they wouldn't have to accept as much money.

And I think they would view Perth Bears as a different

proposition to Melbourne store.

Because if he did, I mean, even then,

like, in terms of the FU given, like,

you allow Zach Lomix to join Paramounter.

So to join the Perth Bears for 200K and no player in return,

like, what does that say to Melbourne?

Yeah.

Like, it's an even bigger slap in the face.

Yeah.

There obviously must be some really bad blood between Paramounter

and Zach as well.

Or you've got to shoot, yeah.

Yeah, this is...

But they're not, I don't, they're obviously not friends.

Paramounter and Zach Lomix.

So that's...

You can look at the situation and probably empathize with Power

there because, you know, they did a lot to aggravate

for his release to come to Power from the Dragons

and then a year of football in him and then he gets...

Oh, now you want something even better.

Yeah.

Maybe they've found out that he's been talking to them

for longer than what we've known.

When you look through the teams that could make a play there

for this year, like the Knights?

Well, do they really need him?

Dom Young and they've got Dom Young, Marjou,

and they've got like enough outside backs already.

They're especially in the centers.

They've got best in gag eye.

I mean, the team that I thought that could maybe make a play

because there's, there is the cat boys

because they've got obviously burns

and toolungy at the back.

And then in the centers, they've got Tom Chester played

for them on the weekend.

You know, could they...

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, maybe.

They've got a lot of back rowers and if you look in there,

their front row as well, they've maybe got a griffin name.

Could you let him go to Paramounter?

Would Paramounter want him?

Maybe.

The other issue as well is Paramounter sort of spent the money.

So you'd have to have like, it becomes really hard.

Melbourne was the perfect situation

where they had the cat to absorb, like,

like, saccelomax perfectly,

whereas not many other of these clubs do.

Yeah.

I think the NRL will be obviously there

in the commission, run the team in Perth.

I think they'll be moving heaven and earth again.

I mean, because he'd be that, that mocky guy, wouldn't he?

You know, we've spoken at length before

about how the Perth bears are assembling a solid looking team

of some character builders, some people

to lay the foundation of the club moving forward.

You know, a number of players from the Sharks, Leeds,

Ryan knows, Paramounter's all really, you know, strong sides.

And we look at the recent success or like top four finishes

from the Sharks.

Paramounter speaks for themselves.

Leeds is a strong club.

So you've got players coming from there,

but there's no market.

Zach is putting him on the billboards.

You know, he'd be the bad news bears.

Just lead into that, like have a guy that everybody else

in the NRL maybe loves to hate, but he's your man in Perth.

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which is big news.

David Riccio broke that they're in the race for him.

I think the dragons are in the mix as well.

The Broncos are in the mix.

David Riccio doesn't think the Knights are one of the teams

in the mix, which is quite interesting.

But do you like him for the eels, Jimmy?

Yeah, well, the eels weren't shy about their pursuits

of Keon Kalo and Matangi, where they so,

that they've clearly identified it.

That middle of the park requires a strengthening

with some outside help.

So, yeah, I think Mitch Barnett would fit that bill.

Strings that Newcastle on in, I mean,

we watched them on the weekend

and there's some really good young, exciting players there.

And we all get a bit carried away with all the Knights

are back.

And I've had that conversation myself around

tipping them for the spoon and just going, oh,

kind of revisit that tip off one game.

I mean, it is only one game,

but it's a huge step in the right direction.

For the Knights, I think they'd be

I can't believe they've got to be in the conscience.

Well, they're in the mix for a bit

to whether or not Mitch Barnett wants to go there.

I don't know if he does, which is interesting.

His family's in Tari, but Paramata, the dragons,

women, you spoke to Shane Flanagan in Vegas

and he didn't shy away from the fact

that the dragons would love to get him.

You know, they spoke about, he spoke about adding two marquees.

Now, he's not a marquee, but it looks like J. Kavarillo

is probably going to end up with the dragons,

which would be a good buy for them.

Yeah, they're in the market still there.

They're not the finished article, but by any stretch.

The Barnett coming into the market,

I think we'll be joined by some other players.

Ram one is, it is great, like everyone's super excited,

but there's some players there

that have been left out of there now 19.

There's also some players that will be

on an extended bench and not get any game time

that will be looking around and going,

like I think one of the consequences of this six-man bench

is the two players that don't play how they feel.

Like it's a bit different if you're there 18th man

because you're kind of, you're sat there thinking,

I might not get on.

And maybe that will be the feeling,

but two players have kitted out

and maybe even had your half time injection

or your injection 30 minutes before kick off.

You're all strapped, you're all ready to go

and you're done.

Like there's gonna be some disgruntled footballers out there.

That would have effect the psyche of some players

and no doubt they'll be speaking to management

and family about what their future holds.

I mean, I've looked at the camera side and three names,

just like glue, and this is a compliment

to camera, doesn't knock on them.

It's a compliment about how their quality of roster

has improved over the years.

Own party, not playing in the 19, Matt Timoco

and Matt and Nicholson, three players who,

like watching personally, really, really enjoyed.

Now, I think it's been Timoco's gonna place

some reserve grade.

He's in reserve grade to get his match fitness up,

but not just match fitness.

I think there's huge defensive concerns around him as well

from the caberators.

But there'd be some teams that'd be looking at him going,

well, we'll have a bit of that.

Maybe we'll reach out, see how he's feeling.

You know, the fascinating one we've made to many Nicholson,

they was talking about him being injured and whatnot.

He's playing reserve grade anyway.

He, the craziest part is Noah Martin

has not just leapt him, but he's also leapt Zach Hosking.

Yes, so Noah Martin has gone from, you know,

one of the standout players in New South Wales

cup last year for the caberators.

And this guy's gonna be a star of the future.

He's got the great mullet, like, and he scored 14 tries,

I think, in New South Wales cup last year,

which is for a back rower, just incredible.

So he's got that right back row spot

with Hudson Young, obviously, on the left.

The interesting thing as well with the caberators

is Ethan's strangest switching sides to the right side.

So Ethan Sand is gonna play left,

and Ethan's strangest gonna play on the right.

So he's taken, he's taken foggily side,

and the main reason for that is Ethan Sand

is obviously a left foot kicker.

Yeah, it's quite the shuffling.

Congratulations to Noah Martin.

We must have had an amazing preseason.

There's some serious competition there in the edge back row.

Oh yeah.

May one of the most arguably the most stacked

NRL side of back rows.

Well now this is, this is the Zach Lomax team.

His caberators are Zach Lomax team.

Could they let one of these back rowers

go to the paramedicals,

and do they need a Zach Lomax in the center's perhaps?

He got Simmy Sassangi,

who has been fantastic whenever he's filled in,

and Sebastian Chris.

Yeah, I mean, the rate is probably having this conversation.

The other one that screams out at me is own party.

Like, looking at the dummy halves in the NRL as it stands,

I've got Harry Grant in a league of zone,

like an absolute league of his own.

And, you know, fair the down, the pecking order,

then you kind of got this crop of chorus out,

braille from the sharks, martial king, cheese.

Robson.

Robson, yeah, of course.

Read Marnie.

Like, you've got a crop there, and, you know,

in two weeks' time, you pick one name out of them,

who's the better of that park,

and then two weeks' let you change your mind.

They're all sort of jumbling around.

Like, say, read Marnie in a world of his own,

but a league of his own.

But, I'm party, what I've seen from him,

in limited exposure to NRL,

he looks the goods.

He looks amazing.

He moves a bit like Harry Grant.

He looks like a similar style.

Yeah, he looks the goods,

and obviously, camera in this predicament of,

they've signed braille,

Tommy's styling shot the lights out last year.

Like, I don't think they saw that coming.

Telling him he was sensational,

and he deserves all the plaudits he can get,

but I don't think they were planning for that.

They obviously signed braille,

but then, own party is that young player,

is he the next Izzy Katar,

and I'm talking about Perth Bears,

where they start making, he's signed till 28.

Yeah. Like, he's signed till 28, yeah.

So, there's a lot of things can happen between now and then,

but, you know,

if this canvas side, as it currently stands,

plays and wins like they did last year,

he's not gonna be able to get in.

And for every success story of things that there's always that,

the couple of lads that miss out,

and they're looking like, well, I should be there.

Yeah. So, my understanding of the own party situation

is that own party is a very understanding of the decision,

and has not kicked stones about the decision at all.

He obviously played every game last year on party,

most of them off the bench,

and he was getting about 15 minutes of game,

something around that.

The decision,

themed to go, played New South Wales Cup,

is about his long-term development.

They have a choice of, they can keep playing in 15 minutes,

a game,

but what's gonna make him to better play in the long run?

Is it playing 15 minutes of game in the NRL,

or is it playing 65 minutes a week

in the New South Wales Cup set up,

and their thoughts at the moment is that New South Wales Cup

is best for him,

and I think Owen Paddy is understanding of that.

But then, if Stalin and Braille are fit all year,

yeah, he's gonna play Braille all year.

He's gonna play Braille all year.

He's gonna play Braille all year,

which is then gonna lead,

whether camera fans like it or they don't,

there's gonna be teams that go,

they'll be getting, you know,

two stages removed from Indonesia.

Yeah.

About coming to our football club.

Like I said, look, like there's here,

you're four or five nines that,

you know, you could,

but how many other sides are after quality,

do we have?

And you think if I-

And you've got a new franchise team in.

Exactly, that's why I would love the loan system to come in

and be really, really,

more commonly used in the NRL,

because the more we expand,

there is just a limit of talent.

Yeah.

I don't have guys like,

I'm party playing New South Wales Cup,

or Maddie Nicholson,

because they're both regular NRL first graders.

They're both players that will make an impact

on any NRL club they're in.

So how can we have this system

where we're continuing to expand,

but then have talent like that playing reserve grade?

I think we can't.

I think we have to have the loan system brought in.

I know we can use it in those ways around

or you sign this contract,

you do this, but I think you should just have a loan set up

where yet the club pays the salary

or you know, you work out a salary system that works.

And yet, if you get injuries, you can recall them

and you bring them back,

like treat it like the football loan system,

like the exact same setup we need to have it,

especially with expansion coming.

Yeah, I don't think it's about our dear Charlie.

Yeah, I like it.

Yeah.

Because I mean, right now this Perth Bears team is a bit like...

Bit average.

Bit average.

Well, we've said they need some stars.

I don't think they're going to loan in any stars,

but if my team needs a nine,

I mean, it might be that Owen Patty through, you know,

injury or suspension gets the spot over Braille and Staling.

Yeah.

And then one of those guys becomes the Owen Patty of,

well, hang on a minute,

Staling's not in.

Like, we'll go after him or Braille is not in.

We'll go after him.

You've ruined the two hawkers and...

Absolute maxing your start in 90 as it is now.

Yeah.

So one of those guys is going to be left out.

There's an oversupply...

And with back rowers and, you know,

even about this potential trade,

some like low max,

Canberra in a great position here.

Like, they've got all the stocks

and maybe they can use some of that to improve and trade.

But they're going to have their hands full,

keeping everybody happy.

And I don't know Owen Patty personally,

but, you know, your reports are he's fine with it,

but look, we know how quickly

and people can change their mind

and how fickle it is

and how we all like to think

when control of our own destiny.

Just like Zach Lomax,

like the call might come

for a third party for someone,

but we'll...

And we know...

Look, whether we like it or we not,

or we don't,

we know it happens

that some clubs will be

inadvertently reaching out

in a month

if this situation stays the same.

Yeah.

I think the camera rate

is a premiership contender

and I think the $20 price

they've got in Ladbrokes

is a bit disrespectful

if I'm being honest.

And if I was a team shopping,

I'd be going to Canberra

and I'd be going to try and find players

because it's not just the hooker situation.

Like Joe Roddy is going to be

an absolute superstar

down the track.

He's playing reserve grade this week

and I know he's young,

but I'll be trying to get him.

They've got this big front rower

in their setup called Jake Clydesdale

who I went and saw the camera rate

this game.

He's six foot seven, eight

and just big and powerful

and brother of Adam Clydesdale

who used to play in the NRLs.

Well, but Adam Clydesdale

was a little hooker, so...

Yeah.

Don't know what's going on there

with those jeans,

but they got Kobe Black

then in the halves.

Matt Tomoco,

Chevy Stewart's playing

New South Wales Cup for them.

Like,

Maddie Nicholson,

like there's so many good players

if I was a team shopping,

I'd go shopping Canberra

and it's why they're a contender

this team because they've got

depth everywhere in all positions.

You know, credits to the Canberraators

and just how far they've come

in 12 months.

I think with the young players

internally even they would've said,

oh, this is the year

that they're going to make

the top four and obviously

with last year's

minor premiership,

they surprised almost everybody.

But you're right,

there's some very,

very talented,

very...

Well, there's some very

high quality players

that won't be playing

first grade and...

but believe you me,

like the recruitment managers

that the roster list makers

will be angling

because there's some players

there that will be being told

by people around them

that they're too good

to be playing cup

and they should be in

with the big boys

and there's genuine

options to join.

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This round is incredible

by the way.

It's opening around a

foot. Yes, we've had two

games.

Storm eels Thursday night.

So much to this game.

Jonah pes it against the

storm, the Zach Lomax

Cup.

I wanted to ask you

with all the stuff

that's happening with

Zach Lomax,

it's very much

very executive.

It doesn't feel like

a player issue.

If you were a

player at one of these

clubs, would you

care about this

Zach Lomax thing?

Would it impact

your preparation at all

or performance?

It shouldn't.

It shouldn't.

But I think

if you par out,

some of the players

would be

maybe sludging

the storm players

being like,

I think Zach was going

to take your spot

or you were the guy

or, hey, you know

that would

redact

redact the name

in the court.

So it's

I've heard it was you,

you know.

I'd be going to

Harry Grant.

You know what?

They're pushing so

hard to get it

redacted.

They want to flick

you.

Can you believe

that?

Matt, I'm telling you.

Ask them.

Did you notice how

short it was?

It looked like

five letters, five letters.

Harry Grant.

Save your coats.

So you think

you'll be a more

spicy game then?

I think there'll be some,

there'll be

on the current there

and the fans there as well.

Like,

it's sparked

and bad blood now

between these

clubs.

The fans will certainly

feel it and bring that

energy and bring that

like,

but I hate

a bit of spite.

Yeah, absolutely.

I think

that'll be a factor.

We were at this game

round one last year

where he was just

got absolutely pumped.

Sunday after.

Sunday after.

This time round

do you see going

any different?

No, I don't.

The storm round one record

is no fluke.

Yeah.

Absolutely no fluke.

And I think this

side after what they

went through last year

being so, so close.

Like, so close.

Or almost as close

as the Broncos

in 23.

Not quite that

extent, but not far

behind that.

I can't see this side

having a mental slump.

I think that they

grow from that.

I really do.

I think that the spine

of Grant Hughes

Munster is going to be

too difficult to

contain.

And so we're

far along out

slotting at the back there.

I think that was to be

expected.

Was to be expected.

Yeah.

Excitement machine.

Yeah.

And that's, you know,

barring,

barring a couple of NRL

forebacks.

That seems to be where

the trend is going.

Yeah.

That really

exciting like

goose step,

beater man,

get on the outside

of a man.

That's where the

foreback position is

heading.

Speed and excitability.

Yeah.

You've got your

you're dealing

Edwards who's

a different type of

foreback.

That really contributes

to his team.

You've got a connoisseur

in that same sort of

mould.

But the majority

of really good

forebacks are all

super exciting and

so far along.

That fits that bill.

The back roll looks

very different to the team

that won the premium.

She's got Joe Chan on

one edge.

Joe Chan, the reports

are he's got the right

edge.

So he's basically

taking the Ellicottos spot.

Then you've got

a Lissati on the other edge

and Alec MacDonald at

the moment.

They're out of the

injury.

I mean, is that a

worry at all?

Not for Melbourne.

Not for Melbourne.

It's a system.

It's a system

based defense.

It's a lot of

systems there.

They've got some

out of the jack out.

Jack in the box.

Pull the

rabbit out the

hat.

Style of play with

Grant and Monster to

go and just break

games open.

Hughes put him

in that category as

well.

But when you

do those plays in those

positions at that

football club, your

job is relatively

simple.

I accidentally said I'm

injured for the

areas.

Obviously just

suspended for the first two

rounds.

I meant to say, but you

like the storm comfortably

in this one.

Big surprise.

No jack

having to.

Big surprise.

Now, their bench has

Wyshart Cooper-Clark,

who's this young front

rower, who's going to be a

star.

Tuikamikamika.

Davi Moale.

And then there's

Preston Kahn, who was

there.

Yeah, Jersey flag

player of the year, I

think last year.

But yeah, no, no

heads ring

tin.

Very interesting.

It is.

I thought he was project

baloney player all day.

But maybe he's maybe he's

going to come good.

Maybe he's dealing with

the legal.

We don't know.

I think he'll be in

that.

I hope so.

I really hope

in Everinton finds his

feet there.

The second game, then we

moved to Friday.

Warriors against the

Chookies.

Now, there's so much

to do.

You've got DCE's

first game.

You know, the

rooster team looks

as stacked as ever.

You've got Blake

Steep starting there at

lock.

Obviously,

Radley suspended for

the first chunk of the

season.

But the Warriors.

Now, the Warriors

Chanel,

Harris-Tavetta, and

Tanner Boyd in the

halves.

And I hate that

Laker Hallisiem is on

the bench.

I just want to say that

man start every week.

Yeah.

I'm with you.

I'd like to see him

be 80-minute

time.

I'm looking at this.

It's a tough place to go.

But I think that the

roosters should have enough

to be clinical and be

professional.

And it is going to be

all eyes on the six and

seven.

And how they can combine

and everything they do

or they don't do.

But there's enough to

like about this rooster

side to say,

we go over to New Zealand

and come away with the

two points in round

mind.

Like, yeah.

There's too much there

for the roosters, the

finishing ability.

You mentioned the

halves there for the

Warriors.

And it doesn't scream

breaking this team open.

I disagree with you.

I think Warriors win this

game in an

upset.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's going to take

a bit of time for D.C.

and Sam Walker to click.

And I think the Warriors

home game,

that packed house, they

incredible atmosphere.

I think they might

get them in round one.

Oh, man.

You know, you can see it

happening.

Yeah.

But I just think the

roosters will just have too

much.

Can't wait for that one.

Bronx Panthers as well.

The second game,

geez.

Amazing.

Amazing opening weekend

of footy.

The Bronx.

They got a bounce back

after the World Club

challenge.

It's the first NRL game

since the Pain Haar staff.

The Panthers, Nathan

Cleary's playing.

He's avoided suspension.

They want some

revenge from the

ball.

No Lee and Martin,

which is a shame.

He throws some

spikes in the mix.

But, yeah, this

absolute sell out as well

for some

corp.

It's going to be exciting.

I think there's a lot of

eyes on Brisbane.

And there's a lot of people

that can't wait for them

to fail and hoping they

fail.

And this Brisbane

attitude amongst their

fans is very much

bringing it on.

It's against you.

Like the rest of the

comp scenes, the haters

because we're successful.

So, let's have it.

Just taking things

slightly off track.

Not too dissimilar

what's happening with the

Dragons fans now.

And I forgot to mention this

in the show.

But the Dragons

are gutted.

They didn't get the two

points.

But now there's a narrative

amongst their fans that

really bought them out

the Woodwick.

A narrow loss in a big

game and against a local

rival.

Like this is ignited

Dragons fans.

They are like the league

don't want us to win.

They want to favor the dogs.

And it's bought out this

like this bulls in this

excitement, this passion,

this fight.

Like we're back against the

corner here.

Let's fight.

And it's interesting that

coach Flanagan

within 12 months.

We won't win the

Spoon until we won't win the

comp.

But now he's got this

situation where it seems

like this is really

bizarrely.

Had they have won?

They're all cheering.

And they're all saying,

yeah, we beat the dogs

over in Vegas

and all this.

But they didn't,

they lost in what people

are calling controversial

circumstances.

And we can debate whether

it's a stripper or knock on it.

For me,

50-50, awful, if you're

dragons, brilliant,

if you're dogs.

Dragons fans don't think

that.

They are up there.

They are about.

And it's this

bizarre to hear me

to anybody to hear this

and some of the situation

up.

But this could be the

catalyst for the dragons.

Fans really getting

behind this side this year.

Yeah.

And we'll change,

change track to Broncos.

But their fans have got

there.

They're being a bonnet there

where they're like,

well, hang on.

We just,

you should be celebrating

us.

And all already,

you can't wait to knock us

down.

Like, you've got a

premiership when in coach.

And some of you,

you know,

all you Sydney,

media tapes.

That's what we've been

referred to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, you're just jealous.

You can't celebrate us

because we're Brisbane.

And like, that narrative

is coming.

Yeah.

What's not?

It's there.

Mate, there was like

200 bad comments about us,

when we spoke about the

pain heart situation.

And I think

it is the reality, though,

that the pain heart is

over Mark McGuire

and some of the other players

are over the methods.

And there's a reason

pain heart is leaving.

Exactly.

So it's not a

made up.

Yeah.

Like, no one's here

making it up to try and create

drama.

If he hadn't signed

with someone else.

Yeah.

And if the con,

if like,

his future still

haven't been sorted out.

Like, maybe

you drop it,

but I mean, come on.

Come on.

It's obvious.

But I think

it's going to be a really

tough test for them.

It's going to be a

tough test for England.

There be a bit

wounded.

They've had a really

intense preseason training

session.

They've had, you know,

so much go on there

at the Broncos.

Who are you

liking in this game?

Yeah.

You know what?

It's funny.

That preseason thing.

And many of people

were up in arms,

saying like, oh, well,

well, I, you know,

what about the service

men and women?

And the Broncos players

get to go to the Womba.

It's not that like

two weeks.

Oh, what I'd give.

But it's

excessive in the world of

NRL.

Yeah.

And, you know, you've

got teams in America

that, you know, go all

over the country there

for extended periods

time.

You know, the pre, I was

speaking to some friends

actually, you know, the

preseason tournament

in Arizona.

A lot of players have a house

there because they, they,

they, they move.

They're obviously

minted, but they'll move

around.

Yeah.

In order for their preseason

schedule, because a lot

of the places, it's too

cold to go to their practice

to their practice facilities.

So they don't do some of caps away?

Yeah, yeah.

So they'll do like extended stints away.

And that's the life of an athlete.

And nobody complains there.

But it's just because it's so different.

And it's just that little bit longer

than what most people or most teams would be accustomed to.

So there is something there.

I get it.

Most people would cut off their right arm

to have a chance in the NRL preseason.

When you're in, when you're outside the cultural norms

of a NRL preseason, it tans heads.

It raises our eyebrows.

What are we doing here?

Why are we here for so long?

Why am I getting woken up at four o'clock in the morning

on the last day?

All that sort of jazz?

I'm not coming.

I'm not doing it.

I'm going to say no now.

I'm going somewhere else.

Yeah, I'm going somewhere else.

I'm going to the party.

Because of you.

You're like the path is this one of the bronchers.

I do like the panthers actually.

They've slipped under everybody's radar.

Not really spoken about.

I've still got them as the premiership favorites in my eyes.

It's a big game for them.

But it's one that I think they've been looking forward

to for a long time.

And I think with Brisbane's recent travels,

they're more gettable than they would be.

Do you think Penra is going to be a lot more focused

on the start of the year this year than they were last year?

So they started very slow.

I mean, it's well documented they were sitting

the last after eight rounds, nine rounds, whatever it was.

But I think they're going to put way more focus

on the start of the season this year.

Yeah, absolutely.

They've got to be realised they were the architects of just

how difficult last season came.

It was on them.

And had they have got a couple of extra wins.

It wouldn't have been in that situation.

Ben hunts at the 14.

So that's always going to be his role to start the year.

We've caught a pig starting at dummy half.

Do you like Ben off the bench?

Yeah, I do.

Just open the old fashioned softening up period.

Yeah, let Corkpigs handle that.

Yeah, let him do just get serviced to your forwards

and your outside backs.

And then when Ben comes on, you can start to play.

We moved to Saturday, no three o'clock game,

obviously on Saturday because of the Vegas game.

So it's another fantastic game.

It's Shark's Titans.

It's Josh Hanna against his former club.

It's a huge game.

I mean, the Titans pit fans are starting to believe.

Now, you're here in Titans fans talk about top eight.

I think Luke here.

He's got the Titans in his top eight.

But this does feel like a huge test in the opening game,

Jimmy, against a shark's team, which I think

are going under the radar.

Yeah, I think sharks are looking at this season going.

This is our last together as a group.

That's an unfortunate reality of professional sports.

I think this is a big, big danger game for the shark.

I'm really interested to see how they apply themselves,

not how they play, but how they apply themselves,

because we've seen in not too dissimilar situations,

the sharks take on a team and either

underman or lower down the ladder.

And after 20 minutes, it's like they're

having the chat boys come on.

And they can't quite get themselves back into the contest.

And before you know, the victim of an upset.

Yeah.

But I think they've all spoken about that this year.

Campbell's out with the hamstring injury,

so Lockheelius slots in at the seven.

Really interested to see how Lockheelius goes.

Talking of moving the deck chairs,

and rearranging shuffling the deck,

get the Titans play well with Ilius.

And no Campbell's just resigned, but we've

spoken about the Raiders having three hawkers.

Titans have got three fullbacks.

Like if Ilius, like, he's, he's, like,

can't believe his lock, he's got, right,

I've got this chance now.

Like I was probably not going to be set.

I've got the chance now.

And he'll back himself at the huge opportunity

for Lockheelius.

That gives some more hope for the Titans.

Obviously, Campbell being out, but Ilius is in there going.

Well, I can create a storm with who needs to go,

because I'm keeping hold of myself.

Exactly.

And then it could not be Campbell.

It could be Brumson.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, it's available to leave.

And if you think about the parameter eels, obviously,

they think Joe Ashpapali might be a five eight for them

in the future, but they've only got peasant for a year.

So they've got to figure out their half situation

for 2027 parameter at some point.

So yeah, who knows?

In that game, though, who do you like?

Sharks, when it sharks.

OK, yeah.

Now the Jamal Foggedy Cup takes place on Sunday.

He goes against up against his former club.

You know, this team, both these teams, look really good.

I mean, a lot of people tip in manly for the spoon,

but when you look at their team on paper,

there's a lot of, there's a lot to like about it.

Their issues are favorites in this one.

They're evens on Ladbroke.

They're $90.90.

I think that's about right.

Like, it's hard to separate these two teams

and for different reasons.

But I want to go to the readers.

I think they need a win.

Like they, I know that sounds strange saying it round one,

but I have to loss, loss to finish last year in finals.

I think they really need to start this campaign with the win.

Yeah.

And I think Ricky Stewart will be into them

about we're not going to be playing catch-off.

We're not going to be the Broncos of 24.

We know how good we can be.

We go to Brookvale and we get the win.

Yeah.

Huge advantage for them in the middle,

it seems with Joe Taapani and Josh Papali

up against Pasekir and Takiyahau.

And then you've got obviously big red Corey Horsbrough

against a wounded Jake Trevoivich.

And then on the bench, guys like Atta Marriota

who's a really underrated player.

Marriota doesn't get much love

because of how stacked the rate is to him.

He's a great player, Smithies, Hosking.

We've spoken about the three players not playing.

Exactly.

But by naming those three that are on in the team,

it shows you how good the players that are in.

I think we're mainly delighted to have Pasekir back,

but you'd be naive to think that it will take some,

or not take some time for him to get open about again.

Mm-hmm.

Joey Walsh is in the full team for Manley.

Is he the guy who's going to replace Luke Brooks

at some point in the season?

Who knows?

Yeah.

I don't know.

It's a funny one, this extended bench

and some of the players that get put on there.

It is annoying my OCD a little bit.

I just want to know who's playing.

I kind of made it.

Well, also there's this kind of this,

or where does he fit in?

There's no guarantees.

And like I say, those players are going to warm up,

get ready, get their injections, get all this strapping on

and maybe for nothing.

And yes, like Joey Walsh is, he can't come on for fogey.

No.

Like in his debut game for the club,

and if he goes on for Brooks,

you know, then you know where that story goes.

Dan Laurie not playing New South Wales Cup,

but in the 18 jersey, does that mean he's maybe

going to feature off the bench?

Like, you know, it's...

It is, it's going to take some getting used to this.

It is, in the 19 months.

But I'm going to go to the Raiders and this one,

a bit of a semi upset.

I'm, well, I type an upset.

No, well, I think Raiders should be the favorite.

I'm actually going to go Manley in the Ups,

I was going to claim upset for Go for Manley.

Yeah, all right, for this.

All right, last game of the weekend.

This is where we're going to go ahead

to head in our Ladbroke same game multi-sale.

Yes.

Not sure if you've got yours ready.

But I am locked and loaded, Charlie, wait.

All right.

We're going to do this every week.

We're going to do this every week.

Yeah.

All right, same game multi.

Yeah.

I can't remember if I got mine or not,

but we'll put on screen the tracker now

if, if either of us got it.

But we'll go with you first, Jimmy.

So obviously it's Dolphins the self.

I'm going to go Finns minus one and a half

into my favorite feature,

the Duos, Hammer and Herbie,

for two or more tries between them

and over 43 and a half total game points.

So I just want to make sure I've got that correctly here.

I've got you've got the Dolphins minus one and a half,

which is the line at the moment.

Points over.

Point over 43 and a half.

And the Duos.

The Duos, you know I love my Duos, Charlie.

I certainly do, mate.

My one, I've got the Dolphins winning,

but I'm just going head to head.

And I'm going to go David Feeder any time in cell would

cobb-o any times of a two.

Debuttons for their respected clubs.

$15.80 on the Ladbrokes app,

which is fan, bloody plastic.

Oh, you know what, I actually kind of like that, Charlie.

Well done.

Thank you.

Thank you, I'll call it the Debuttons bet.

And I hope it is my debut win of this season as well.

Obviously on Ladbrokes, remember it always together

will responsibly.

Now, Jimmy, this game, the Wayne Bennett Cup.

There's so much to this game.

I think one of these two teams makes the top eight,

one of the misses out when the season's set and done.

How do you see this game going?

Yeah, I don't know if there's room for both of these side.

It is such a stuck competition where it's so difficult

to predict the eight and, you know,

the Cambra are a timely reminder of many

of pondits getting things wrong

on what they produced last year.

Who's going to be the Cambra Raiders?

Is there going to be a Cambra Raiders of 2025 in 2026?

Look, selves need to improve.

Their injuries again with no gyro, no Brandon Smith.

Humphries is missing for a couple of weeks of spend yet.

I'm still not 100% sold on South's middle.

I obviously can't worry back,

Keon and Tutola, like looks great on paper,

but I think they're fraction like there.

So look, I'm definitely taking dolphins in this one.

I think the dolphins are going to shoot the lights out

this year.

The stars are lying like that side on paper.

Flagler back in the end are like,

how good is that?

The feel good story around him?

Like, I love that he's starting as well.

Oh, man, just get it.

Get him in there.

Yeah.

The unwatching that this him on the sideline

of the trials, I felt bad for him.

I was like, just get the boy on.

Like, let him go and get some action and get delighted for him.

Nobody likes to see Janice go that way,

but because mate, you did a podcast with him.

And I remember he was, he was almost in denial a little bit.

If you go back and watch the podcast, he was so adamant.

And at the time, I remember the podcast finished

and you and me sort of spoke about after.

And we're like, oh, he doesn't really know the situation.

He's in truly yet, but he was right.

We were wrong.

Well, you kind of got the sense that he was in limbo.

Yeah.

And most of the time when you're in limbo,

it doesn't seem to work out well.

And the thing that surprised me about the injury,

it was like, he was doing everything he can

or everything he could.

I was still basically down to a little bit of luck,

a bit of the unknowns.

And everything he was trying to do to stimulate the nerve growth.

Like, there's no guarantees it was working.

And when you're hearing news like that and, you know,

doctors, not maybe not letting you back and all this sort of stuff,

it seemed like the writing was on the wall.

He still didn't have feeling at that point.

This was so far after the incident, like,

you and me after were like talking about steroids

and things like that, like, should we try this?

Should we try?

I thought I'll turn it.

Yeah, Lee, I thought, retire from the sport,

go and find some medical help that you can't receive,

clean yourself up and then come back into the test and pull.

Yeah.

But yeah, good on him.

I'm really pleased for Flagler being back playing NRL.

We know his capabilities when he's at his absolute best.

He'll have some lung issues throughout this game,

no doubt, but delighted to see him back.

Morgan Knowles making his NRL debut.

Congratulations, Morgan Knowles looking forward to seeing him

coming mix it with the big boys here in the NRL.

He's in my super coach team.

I got him in for my super coach team, Morgan Knowles.

Nice.

He drafted him in the 17th round of a 16-man comp.

So I hope you guys well for me,

because that'll be an absolute steal if you guys well.

I, he will, mate.

He won't let anybody down.

To me, this, I think, all eyes will be on Broncos' pan-riff

Friday night if you're going to pick one game

of NRL to wild.

Yep.

That would be it.

But I'm super excited about Sunday's game.

Like, really, really excited.

We're going to be there as well.

We're going to be there.

Change the flesh.

That's uncomfortable.

It will be great.

I'm pumped for it.