Joe Kent Resigns, Ireland Mass Invasion, CCP AI, and Gen Z's Take On Operation Iran

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daily today is, of course, March 17th, 2026,

Anodomini, St. Patrick's Day.

And guys, if you could throw that shot up

of the White House there, we could see the flags

are back up, the tornado warning ultimately

didn't take place last night, no tornadoes.

And what do we see?

Oh, that's right, the green in the water fountain

for the incredible St. Patrick's Day that we have.

But that said, what is the state of Ireland?

Right now.

Well, let's talk about the state of Ireland

because the state of Ireland is in a state of danger.

And Ireland is in a state of danger

because since the year 2000, the foreign-born population

has gone from 9% in the year 2000

all the way up to 22% in 2024, 2025.

And the foreign population that's come in

largely has been from the third world.

That's more than one in five from Ireland, excuse me,

one more than one in five are not from Ireland.

And they're told by their people,

including the president of Ireland, who's on TV earlier today,

saying that anyone can be Irish, that they're Irish and new Irish.

No, I disagree with that.

I fundamentally reject that.

There is the Irish, and that is it.

The Irish people are the owners of Ireland.

Every single blade of grass on the Emerald Isle

belongs to the Irish people.

And it always has.

And it always will.

A nation is its people.

These things are very, very hard to create.

And as we are seeing, very easy to destroy.

So when you look at the history of St. Patrick,

and you look at the history of what he did,

bringing Christianity to Ireland, this Catholic priest,

then later Bishop, former slave, comes to Ireland,

teaches the Holy Trinity, being born Roman Britain,

and then going over, driving the snakes out.

Yeah, we need to drive the snakes out, don't we folks?

Understand your history.

Understand what makes you a nation.

Does Ireland need cultural enrichment?

No.

Ireland has one of the richest cultures on the face of the planet.

It's true, it's great, it's an incredible culture.

It's one of the best cultures.

And the indigenous people of Ireland are the Irish people.

That island has always been theirs,

and they have fought for it, and they have blood for it

against all odds.

And now that very island is threatened

by total replacement by foreigners.

Conor McGregor came to the White House one year ago today

and warned of the mass suppression of the Irish people.

And it's time for the Irish people to raise up.

Make Ireland Irish again.

Make Ireland Irish today.

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Not the first time on the show,

but the first time in her new capacity

to the former Assistant Secretary of the Department

of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin, Tricia, how are you?

Jack, it's great to be back with you.

Good to see you.

All right, you're adjusting to the new tempo,

the new operational tempo there?

Yes, slower pace, that's for sure,

but it's been good to be with family and take a beat.

All right, well, we got to get you out the sidelines

because when we're seeing this Save America act

that we're trying to push it through in the Senate,

we've got the house wants to do it,

the Senate wants to do it, the president's called for it.

Let's take a step back and let's actually look at the situation.

I was just talking about Ireland and their immigration problems.

We still face problems here in the United States regarding this

because we have these illegal aliens on the rolls.

We have so much more that the Save Act covers

from your position at DHS,

you had direct access to that information.

So paint for us the picture of where things are now

without the Save America act.

Yeah, I've yet to see a coherent argument

on the other side why we should not pass

the Save America act.

All 53 Republican senators should be doing just that.

And it really does, but our national security,

and of course, our election integrity

at risk that they're not willing to pass.

As I mean, Jack, we've heard from Senator Schumer

and a lot of these Democrat senators

voicing concern that there would be ICE agents

at the voting locations come election day

and that they were actually concerned about this

when they're claiming that there are non-citizens

in illegal aliens voting.

Part of the Homeland Security Beyond the Immigration Aspect

is Sissa, which safeguards our infrastructure,

including our election infrastructure.

That agency itself,

well, there's been great efforts to reform it.

They've gone really off mission

and were very focused on thwarting what they would call

information, really censoring speech.

So we do have a massive problem outside

of just voter ID and the election integrity space.

John Solomon, who I'm great respect

were a great reporter who I think you know well.

He just came out with a report saying that in 2020,

you're getting ahead of me because this was my second question.

This was my follow-up question.

And I was gonna say, so you know, Trisha,

we have this report from just the news

and our colleague John Solomon,

but of course, because you're already ahead of us.

So yes, please, if I can get you to comment on this report,

so we're talking about the voter rolls here.

China accessing the voter files

because this is, we don't, we're told that 2020,

I remember Chris Krebs over at Sissa,

he kept saying over and over and over.

2020 was the most secure election.

2020 was the most secure election.

And yet now we have this information.

What's going on?

Well, and I'd love to remind viewers to Jack,

remember Sissa was actually housed,

what was that ministry of truth

that the Biden administration introduced in 2021

and eventually purportedly shuttered

based on public backlash, but as far as this report.

There was a guy on a podcast called Human Events Daily

who took a lot of exception to that board,

the disinformation government's board

and a certain Nina Jankovich who was going to be running it

and possibly caused a little bit of a stir

back in 2021 when all that happened.

I forget who that guy was though.

I could only imagine, no, Jack, thank you for your service

and doing that and exposing it.

You've exposed this and so many other really deep state issues

and things that really empower the American people,

our freedom and our rights.

As far as this report goes, it's yet to be determined.

Was the Chinese government able to actually infiltrate

and alter those voter roles was Iran?

Was other adversarial nations?

I think that's a really huge question

that's more information it's going to have to come out about.

No, I think it's exactly right.

And so the story there, the question's about the Chinese

having access to our voter files, which by the way,

I have to say just as a joke a little bit

that half-joke, I suppose, that I know the president

looks like he has postponed this meeting with Xi Jinping.

He was expected to go at the end of the month,

they're too Beijing, but I'm almost wondering

if perhaps we can go to the Chinese Communist Party

and ask them for help with the Save America Act

because if they have access to our voter roles,

maybe they can tell us where the illegals are on the voter rolls

and we can just match those up and take it from there.

Oh, you're exactly right.

What a bleak state we're in.

I mean, Schumer and these other Democrats,

but also Republicans likening this to Jim Crow

and saying that there is infringement upon married women,

such as myself, newly married, because we were...

Well, yeah, I was just thinking of it.

So Trisha, you just got married.

You know, are you still able to vote?

Did you lose your rights?

Are we living in Handmaid's Tale?

Or do you still have the ability?

We're able to figure it out.

How do, how to register after you got married?

I was still able to register to vote in Ohio.

Somehow I'm still able to fly.

I'm still able to use my ID to buy a beer.

These are pretty common sense things

that every single American can do.

Whether it be women or African-American people

were pretty intelligent Americans.

So what's really going on here politically?

Why is it that we see so much of the establishment

fight against these when, in truth, when we get polling back on this,

these things like things like voter ID

and getting illegals out of voting

are so broadly supported by, by the way,

all across the political spectrum.

70% of Democrats, according to NBC,

actually agree that we should have voter ID to vote

and that you should be able to present your citizenship.

So this really is a 90-10 issue.

I think that they don't want to give the president

any political lens.

It's an extension of Trump's arrangements and drum.

But further, I do think that they know

that there are cases where illegal aliens

and people who should not be voting or voting

and they want to continue to encourage

that there is a reason Jack, in my opinion,

that that border was flooded

and the Joe Biden was waving people in

that all of those Democrats and the 2024 primary,

or excuse me, 2020 primary,

were saying that they were going to give healthcare

to illegal aliens and that it shouldn't be a crime

to enter the country illegally.

Those are their voters and they don't want to throw up them.

And that's the problem.

That's the problem right there is that they don't actually

want to represent the American people.

They don't actually want to stand up

and do the right thing because there are too many

and trench interests that are enjoying the fruits of this

because, I mean, and let's just be honest,

there are people who are worried about the pressure

that this is going to put on illegal aliens.

So Democrats, of course, don't want the voters,

but unfortunately, there are many people

from all the Republican side that have ties

to the US Chamber of Commerce and others

that are very concerned because they know

that the dirty little secret is that that cheap foreign labor

is keeping a lot of their companies

and a lot of their interests afloat.

Oh, I completely agree.

And the fact of the matter is you do hear it from the left,

of course, but you also hear it from the right,

especially, you know, of course,

those Republican members who believe that we should be

using essentially slave labor in these illegal aliens

to cheapen wages, to cheapen the price of goods for us.

But the fact of the matter is if illegal alien workforce

was actually effective for our economy,

then Joe Biden would have had a booming economy.

Of course, he didn't have that.

When he flooded our country with 10 to 15 million

illegal aliens and we still had a crap economy,

there is no correlation and it's really just a cop out.

No, it's exactly right.

I remember someone saying that it's going to help with inflation

if we have more people because there's more people

to spend the dollars.

It's just the arguments just completely fall apart

every time you look at it because we know, by the way,

that by and large with these illegals when they're coming in,

they're not spending most of their money here.

They're sending the money back.

They're sending it back in remittances.

So, you know, place like Springfield Ohio,

others where they've been hit by this,

they don't even actually get the financial or economic benefit

to the area that they always claim is going to come.

Exactly, inject to that and there's actually a rule

that just went into effect from the Department of Transportation

just yesterday saying non-domiciled aliens,

including those who are in this country illegally,

will no longer have the option or right

to have a commercial driver's license.

This is very common sense when there's no longer

these non-domiciled drivers.

We don't have a record of what they're driving is like.

We don't know if they've had DUIs.

I think we may have lost a little bit of a connection there

with Trisha.

I don't know, perhaps it was the Chinese Communist Party

hacking into her connection there,

but of course, go give her a follow over at Trisha, Ohio,

and it's great to see the great Trisha Moglawflin

staying in the fight.

Human events daily will be right back.

Talk about influences, these are influences

and they're friends of mine.

Jack, we're so big.

Where's Jack?

Jack, we've got a great Jack.

All right folks, Jack, we're so big here

in the darkness, that's kind of interesting,

on human events daily.

We've got, we're very excited to have our next guest,

it's Wynton Hall from Breitbart News.

He's coming on because we need to talk about China.

China is so important.

China is in the AI fight with the United States.

And in this AI fight, the question is,

is this going to be a national security concern?

Well, it certainly is when we just hear about China,

with the voting role, so let's get him on now.

Wynton Hall from Breitbart News,

the author of the new book, Code Red,

joins us here, Wynton, how are you?

Oh, great to be with you, Jack.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right, so are we losing the China War to,

or the AI War to China?

What do you say?

We're not yet, but we've got to make sure that we stay ahead.

We definitely have a lead because of our advancements

and semiconductors and President Trump

and Vice President Vance of doing an amazing job

of really making sure that we have what we need

to win that AI race.

But we cannot be caught flat footed.

We saw with the deep seek our one moment

that one day wipe out biggest historic one day

market cap loss when they rocked in video

with a $600 billion market cap wipe out

when they released deep seek.

And so they came to play, right?

We know that since 2017, they've had this determined drive

to make sure that they dominate by 2030 in the global AI race.

And I think Americans sometimes say, well,

how does that affect me?

I think it's two things.

I think there's the economic component,

which we sort of just alluded to in addition

to that, the upside is that on any given day,

depending on market fluctuation,

you're looking at a third of the S&P 500

made up of the magnificent seven,

the seven large American tech companies.

So there's the plus and the minus there,

but I don't have to tell you, you're the expert.

You know that the military piece is the real part

because that involves human lives, not just capital.

And we can talk a lot about why we have to win that race.

And in Code Red, what I say is,

we've got to beat China without becoming China.

And I think we can do that.

I think we have a plan to do that,

but it's going to take a lot.

And I think a lot of Americans maybe

are just coming late to this conversation

and realizing that, wow, this really is a 5D new chess game

that we got to play.

And the situation is actually serious

because we look as the United States is getting involved

in Iran, what's China doing?

Oh, they're messing up right outside of Taiwan.

Now, personally, I'm a guy who's always said

that I don't think China wants to take Taiwan directly by force,

but certainly they are showing us the optionality that they have.

Now you add AI targeting to any of the packages

that they could be looking at with Taiwan Island,

looking at the packages in terms of US military installations.

This shows exactly what they could do

to apply that to their military

and put a really strong squeeze

on the Republican, well, the Republican China.

Yeah, I mean, Jack, you nailed it.

One of the things that people need to understand

is that one of the things that AI in the defense tech space

will really excel at.

We often think of these sort of Hollywood things

of Terminator with laser beam eyes and things.

And certainly the autonomous warfare piece is important.

And I talk about that, but the real thing

that on a just broad and very, very effective level,

it is this mass scale pattern recognition.

And so when you have all this intel information,

all this intercepted communication,

all these audio and video and satellite,

being able to quickly boil that down to actionable intel

that used to take hundreds of human officers months

to be able to do can be done in warp speed.

That's a huge advantage for us.

We've seen it being used right now with Iran.

We've seen it used in the Maduro, right?

But it also means, that's your point,

that democratization of that power

and other nation states and non-state actors who obtain it.

That also gives them massive leverage.

I think the other thing.

One China.

Yeah.

I was just gonna add, so China, we've actually been covering

and not a lot of people have talked about this.

Here at Human Events, we've been covering

how China is using their AI functionality

along with their new satellite technology

to be able to provide images of the US military

as it's conducting this operation in Iran,

whether it's the Ford, whether it's the USS Tripoli

that's headed up through the Straits in Malacca right now,

with that 34th Marine Extraditionary Unit there,

whether it's Plains on the tarmac,

they're potentially able to provide targeting

for information to the Iranians.

I mean, they are showing us a masterclass in real time,

how they're able to pair their new technology with AI

and guess what?

They're providing it for the entire world

to see their bragging, aren't they?

Absolutely.

It's a muscle flex, you said it exactly right,

and I think the other thing too is,

when you look at the resource allocation

that they have poured into this,

let me, I think a lot of us probably wouldn't be aware.

They spend, China spends more on semiconductor imports

than they do on oil, okay?

So that just really shows you where their priorities are

in that 2017 plan they laid out for 2030 dominance.

The other thing that you take into consideration of that

is telescoping this out as both superpowers

are racing toward what's known as RSI,

recursive self-improvement, and what is that?

It is when AI can automate,

autonomously improve and update its own code.

We're not there yet technologically,

anthropic just had some recent data on this,

but when you get something that is like RSI,

the exponential goes up and anybody in the defense space

will tell you if that theoretical construct

were to be achieved, think about this.

You would have full spectrum battlefield dominance

and things like encryption, cyber attacks,

cybersecurity, hacking of missile systems,

hacking of infrastructure.

So the reason why people say we've got to beat China

in this AI race is once whoever gets their first

they really do gain this level of battlefield supremacy

that is unlike anything we've seen.

So people say sometimes to me they'll say,

aren't a lot of these just marketing pitches

by these huge trillion dollar companies

so that they can raise investor capital

by making it sound like their tech is so important.

Look, I think two things can be true at the same time, right?

No doubt, look, from the market side

and as a business I'm sure they use that

to build a capital race, but I don't have to tell you,

you've lived it and you know it probably better

than most in our movement.

This is real, China is there to play

and they are putting their money where their mouth is.

Tell us again, the name of the book

and where people can get it.

Oh, thank you.

Code red, the left, the right, China

and the race to control AI and it came out today

and you can get it anywhere, books are sold

and on Amazon for sure.

I didn't even realize,

and not only is it happy St. Patrick's Day to you,

it's happy pub day.

So go and check that out, folks.

And as we've been here, just guys, look,

we've been tracking at Myzar Vision,

China is showing us our own military operations

and showing our adversaries in real time.

What is the threat?

The threat is now.

Check this book out.

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Where is he?

Jack, I want to see you.

Great job, Jack.

Thank you.

What a job you do.

You know, we have an incredible thing.

We're always talking about the fake news and the bad,

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Well folks, we saw all the news this morning

going viral about Joe Kent.

And what can we say?

You have to thank Joe Kent for his service.

There's no question.

This man has sacrificed more for his country

and has done more for his country

than any of us will ever do in a lifetime.

An 11-time combat veteran

and also a gold star husband.

And I remember serving in the Navy

when Shannon died and just being in Navy intelligence.

We heard about it.

It was a huge blow.

I hadn't met Joe at the time.

But people know that I've connected with him

and campaigned for him and helped him get into

when it was running, helped him when it was running.

And you have to thank Joe Kent for his service

and there's no question about that.

And you have to respect that service.

When it comes to the situation at hand,

the situation is what it is.

It certainly is what it is.

Donald Trump is a President of the United States.

Donald Trump is in the driver's seat.

Like I said last night, like I said every day,

Donald Trump as the Commander in Chief is the one

that we chose to make the decisions

for the United States, for our country,

for our freedom, for our security.

That's Donald Trump's position.

And there's no question that you have to respect

what Donald Trump has sacrificed,

what Donald Trump has put up.

And the fact that Donald Trump has been willing

to put his life on the line for all of us.

He did so at Butler.

He does so every single day.

And so when we have these situations,

it's unfortunate.

You wish they didn't have to happen.

You wish it wasn't something that was happening.

But that's what's going on out there.

And I want to bring on Evita Duffy,

here, Human Events Daily.

She is our, as we say, our favorite anti-communist.

And as she reminded me in the break,

she is, of course, as a Duffy,

a daughter of Ireland as well.

Evita, how are you?

Good. Thanks for having me, Jack.

No, it's good to have you on it.

And I guess this is, when I've talked before

about the generational divide,

how I believe there is this sort of generational,

and it's just something that is,

when it comes to foreign intervention,

when it comes to war,

when it comes to these matters,

is that something that we're seeing now

when we look at the Iran operation

where there's people over a certain age

that are fully behind it,

there's people who are in the middle,

and then there's young people

that are just totally opposed to it.

Do I have that right?

Am I seeing it?

What are you seeing out there?

Well, let's just dig into the polling right now.

So you have 72% of independents

who are saying that they are against this war.

For Gen Z, this is an MPR poll

from just this month,

62% of Gen Z voters disprove

of President Trump's handling of Iran,

24% approve.

Now, this is, of course, significant

because it's not just polling left-wing libs

who are overwhelmingly against this conflict,

but included in that Gen Z coalition

are a lot of conservatives

who actually voted for President Trump.

President Trump historically won Gen Z men in 2024.

Whoever thought that could have happened, it did.

And so I think what's happening, Jack,

is, and this is a narrative problem,

a lot of Gen Zers are associating the war

in Iran that we're having right now

with Iraq and Afghanistan.

And the statement that Joe Kent came out with today

narratively does not help that at all, right?

He said, this is Iraq 2.0,

and we're doing this on behalf of Israel.

That's not some podcasters saying that.

That's Joe Kent.

So the problem now is a lot of young people

are viewing this as Iraq 2.0.

And what happened when we went into these forever wars

in the Middle East?

You had trillions of dollars being spent on these wars.

How do we afford them? Well, we borrowed money.

This, of course, increases deficits,

increases our national debt, increases inflation.

It devalues the American currency.

And that takes away the American dream from young people.

President Trump knows this.

President Trump has been against forever wars

for his entire political career, right?

And so I don't think that what's happening in Iran

is necessarily what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The problem is that there's a narrative that it is

and we're ahead of midterms.

And if you're a black pillar and you're worried about, you know,

the Trump admin isn't doing enough.

We're not being successful enough, which I disagree with.

But if you really want to see nothing happen,

let's see what happens in the midterms

when the Democrats take back the House

or potentially take back the Senate,

and then we're going through two years

of incisive impeachment proceedings.

And I do think, by the way, that, you know, this,

and this is something that I've brought up so many times as well.

I said, guys, it's been two weeks.

You know, it has been two weeks,

two weeks in a couple of days that is so different.

Because I remember.

I remember the Iraq War.

I remember the mobilization.

I remember the months and months that went into,

that went into sort of the championing for the war.

Colin Powell goes up to the UN

and is talking about the weapons of mass destruction.

I remember the whole thing.

All right.

This was laid out systemically by the administration,

by the Bush administration,

over a long period of time.

And at the same time, people have to remember,

you know, when you look back on it,

that in context, 9-11 wasn't that long before.

And so people were very traumatized.

Just the American people were very traumatized by that attack

and were feeling vulnerable, feeling at risk,

feeling like another terrorist attack could happen.

And we're looking for the government to protect them.

And what the Bush administration did was squander that trust.

Absolutely squander that trust.

And say, oh, we need to go and do this,

because this is the big problem.

And not only, and that was far more than just, you know,

air strikes and hitting military installations,

that was a full on ground invasion,

where when, you know, my senior year,

I remember people who are saying,

hey, I'm going to enlist in the army,

and they did, and I knew people who enlisted,

and we're in that pipeline,

and went straight to Iraq.

And I knew people who came back.

I knew people who didn't come back.

And that's just how it was during those years.

So fundamentally, this is already a different thing.

There's no question about that.

And by the way, I've not said, at all,

that people shouldn't be allowed to debate,

because this is the United States of America.

And in the United States of America,

if you're going to, if you have freedom of speech,

you should be able to exercise that freedom of speech.

When you have a war, when you have invasions,

when you have, you know, questions about invasions,

that is the kind of thing that's always going to be controversial

and should be debated the most.

There's no question.

And, you know, that's one thing,

and I'll throw it to you, Evita,

that we have actually seen some people calling

for shutting down the debate.

And I think that's a problem, isn't it?

No, I mean, we certainly shouldn't be shutting down debate.

I mean, I think from a young person's POV,

you talk about the memory of 9-11,

how that impacted Iraq and Afghanistan,

and for every war in the Middle East,

the perception of them,

the Gen Z perspective is radically different.

I mean, I was one year old when 9-11 happened.

I don't remember that.

What I remember is being at war for my entire childhood,

and I remember going off to college,

and then afterwards, in realizing,

oh, this is not the America of my parents and grandparents.

Now, reckless spending is reckless spending,

and that's not just about wars,

but certainly forever wars in the Middle East contributed to that.

But again, Jack, I think you're right to point out

it's been two weeks.

It hasn't been 20 years.

If we're going to call this a forever war,

I'd be over 40 years old right now.

I'm not.

Well, everybody just chill out for a second,

and I think I'd like to see, especially from some of the conservatives

in the room with all the name calling,

and the shutting down the debate,

you're not MAGA.

Instead, what I'd like to see is some focusing on the midterms.

I mean, Charlie Kirk, before he died,

his entire goal was mobilizing people.

I saw a tweet from TP Action yesterday.

They're registering people to vote.

They are doorknocking.

They are doing the work on the ground.

Meanwhile, you have the podcast wars,

and I think people engaging in a lot of just vitriol for clicks

and not even necessarily debate.

But again, people saying you're not MAGA.

And it's just so unhelpful and silly at a time like this,

when we need to be coalescing together ahead of the midterms.

I appreciate you saying that, Evita,

because there's been a lot of calls for me to engage in the podcast wars.

And what side are you on, Posovic?

And who's...

Did you support this podcaster or this podcaster?

You in this camp or you in that camp?

And I always just kind of say, you know, I support Charlie.

I support Turning Point.

You know, I support America.

I support Trump.

Like, all the things I've always supported that I just want to win

and keep the coalition together at all costs.

I'm not trying to play these games.

We'll put a pin in that, and we have a quick break.

We'll be right back at Human Events Daily.

I call this the Jack Posovic Appreciation Hour.

I can say confidently, I believe...

I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee

if it wasn't for Jack Posovic.

And that is...

I'd be honest.

All right.

Folks, we're back, Jack Posovic, Human Events Daily.

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Want to bring Evita Duffy back on here today

because Evita, you're just absolutely sending it.

There's been so many people who, no, it's true, as the kids say,

that they want to get into this bickering

and this back and forth.

And he said, she said, and, you know,

there's just certain things that we need to focus on right now.

We're going into this election.

By the way, the Charlie Kirk murder trial

is going to be starting in just a couple of weeks here.

And so when I talk, or, you know, unless it gets pushed back,

which is a possibility as well.

But, you know, I tend to try to focus on the big things

without getting into the personality struggles.

And there have been times in the past couple of weeks

where certain personalities have tried to make it personally about me.

And I don't respond.

I either don't respond, or I will, if it's a,

well, there was a certain U.S. Senator last week who decided

he wanted to do that.

And I did respond to him.

But it's really something that I feel to your point.

It just detracts and distracts from the actual goal.

There's no meaningful conversation being had.

And Jack, you know, you and I are both part of new media.

I love new media.

It's great.

The corporate media, the propaganda press,

had been doing a terrible job for decades,

lying to the American people.

The flip side of that is that new media is full of a lot of

personalities who are very self-absorbed,

who are cultural personalities, if we're being honest.

And everything is about them.

And everything is about getting other people to be absorbed

into their drama in order to promote themselves.

That's really what it's all about.

It's deeply selfish.

And it's unproductive.

And especially when they're, they're ostensibly our sides

or our voices.

It doesn't do anything to help the movement.

In fact, it actually creates division.

I mean, we're acting like losers right now.

This is what's so obnoxious to me, Jack.

2024 was incredible.

I mean, Trump won the popular vote.

He won Gen Z men.

He did better with Gen Z women than he did in 2020.

I mean, actually, the numbers for Gen Z women were incredible,

even if he didn't win them, just because Gen Z women never,

young women never vote for Republicans.

But they did, he did really well with them.

And all of a sudden, we are acting like losers right now.

We are acting like losers with these stupid podcast wars.

And all of the back and forth, he's not Maga.

She's not Maga.

I'm so sick of it.

It's completely unproductive.

No, it's exactly right.

And at the end of the day, I said this yesterday.

And it was kind of, I don't know, I was kind of making the rounds

because they clipped it.

And I said, if, if there is, you know, sort of,

because, you know, the president brought it up about, you know,

mega-means you support Donald Trump.

And I think that's fair.

He certainly earned that.

There's no question.

But there are, you know, and if you're in a name for it,

there is sort of this America first group,

which is, is people who support the various policies

of 2016, 2020, 2024,

but perhaps would be willing to do so without the president.

So they're, you know, more, you know, more focused on immigration,

more focused on trade, you know, no focus at all on foreign policy.

And so that, if I see a split, that's where I see the split

because, and I was on Sky News the other day,

and they asked me about this.

They said, is, is MAGA splitting from Trump?

And I said, no, I don't see a MAGA splitting from Trump at all,

that you look at poll after poll,

and people who identify as MAGA do buy and large stick with the president.

It's like 80, I think it was 94 percent, something like that.

94 percent are still with the president.

So, you know, that being said, though, what you're pointing out

is that there's a larger coalition that can get you beyond MAGA Republicans.

It can get you into independence.

It can get you into perhaps former Democrats.

It can get you into all sorts of things that take you from, you know,

45 percent of the country into 55 percent, into 60 percent.

And that's what the goal is about.

Yeah, I mean, that's what you need to win.

I mean, that's what Charlie Kirk's whole goal was.

You know, Jack, I mean, something that I feel like has been really missing

from this conversation about war with Iran,

and this goes beyond President Trump.

And I think that there's certainly an opportunity for us to midnight hammer

what's happening in Iran right now and just say, all right, we're in the victory.

We're out.

And that's been like Trump's whole MO.

He's done that for a long time.

I don't think we have any reason to believe that this is going to be a 20-year conflict

based off of who President Trump is in his track record.

But if this does become a 20-year conflict, and again,

that wouldn't even be President Trump's fault.

It would certainly outlive him.

The problem that I see, one of the biggest problems is mass immigration.

And how conflicts across the globe have destabilized Western countries

via all these refugees, people asking for asylum.

There hasn't been a lot of conversation about that, frankly,

among, you know, serious people in our movement.

And it's actually one of the biggest ones that I see.

And again, this wouldn't be a President Trump problem.

This would be the preceding presidents.

This is why deportations are so essential.

This is why passing the Save Act is so necessary right now.

This is why Congress has to get it into gear right now

and protect our country, insulated from another Joe Biden,

who will gladly let in millions of people,

or a bad Republican.

And by the way, there's been a lot of bad Republicans in the past.

The track record for Democrat and Republican presidents

has been mass immigration, amnesty, you name it.

That's what they've stood for.

And so I'm worried about what happens post-Trump.

That conversation isn't even being had.

Well, there's a lot of questions.

And this is certainly why.

And I threw that up, you know, I threw it tweet up yesterday about that.

Talking about, you know, who supported JD Vance back,

not in terms of, you know, right now,

but in terms of putting them on the ticket for 2024.

Because I remember Charlie Kirk was there.

I remember that's what Charlie was, 100%.

And he spent so much time on that.

He spent so much energy on that.

And there were a lot of people who fought to the nail regarding that pick.

And where do we go 2026, 2028, potentially beyond 2032?

That is all going to matter.

And I think quite frankly, Vita, that it's all of those questions

that are causing a lot of the fights that you see right now.

Because there are people who are jockeying for position.

And I'll simply put it this way.

That the 2028 primary isn't starting some time in the future.

It's already begun.

Yeah, well, and I couldn't agree with that more.

And I think, you know, it's interesting that Charlie made his dance clear right away

in the Narraka Kirk, you know, echoed it on the stage at turning point

endorsing JD Vance right away.

But certainly there are a lot of people who are in the mix

for potentially running for office and becoming president.

And the future of the party depends on that.

That's why Jack, when you're like, let's not shut down the debate.

I couldn't agree more because the future of who we are as a movement

is really just about to be solidified or defined, I think,

in this post-Trump era.

And so instead of, you know, focusing on these cultural personalities

and the podcast wars, serious conversations about who we are as a movement

need to be happening.

It's what it's all about.

This is about agency.

It's about men standing up and being leaders again.

And men and women joining together and starting families for our country

as you guys are doing, by the way, congrats again on that.

And I hope everything is going well.

But it's about actually doing these things.

Don't be a follower.

Don't make it be, you know, just a slogan.

You have to be a leader.

Be a rebel.

Start a family.

I started saying that years ago.

And it's, it's just amazing to see that people, people like Avita Duffy

and Interactual Husband are actually doing that.

So Avita, God bless to you.

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