JR Morning ~ September 9, 2026 ~ Full Show

0:00It's a little raining out the smorgas. It is, but you know, I'll take the, you know, we'll get some rain today. I'll take that, but you know, the rest of the week looks pretty nice. Yeah. Yeah, so just be careful on your way to work. Road will be a little extra slick this morning. Yeah, but yeah, no, the rest of the week is going to be very nice, which is, I mean, look at this point. We'll hold on to any help. I'm going to be able to do that. I'm going to be able to do that. I'm going to be able to do that. Not much s I don't w will loose onную hell. What out there even occurred What are you saying? Oh.ного leader for Republican john James.您 found Benson 47% support compared with 43% for James and other 10% undecided for

1:03supporting someone else. The four-point differences within the polls margin of error meaning the race remains statistically close. Meanwhile that same poll showing that Republican Mike Rogers has a 45.8% support Democrat Abdul-El Syed with 44.4% 9% remain undecided. Rogers 1.4 edge is well within the surveys four-point margin of error among voters who say they will definitely cast a ballot the result flips. El Syed leading 46.7% to 44.4%. Postor Richard Zuba says Republican voter motivation is lagging behind Democrat enthusiasm. Also with just eight weeks until the midterm elections with Republicans in Michigan are facing a growing political threat as President Trump's approval ratings dropped sharply according to that poll by the Detroit News and WDIV TV 61% of likely Michigan voters now disapprove of President Trump's job performance two years into a second term that matches

2:04Joe Biden's disapproval rating in the same state in early 2024. Voter cited rising costs with 86% reporting higher prices over the last year. Strong majorities also oppose the president's handling of the economy, tariffs, and also the war and Iran while Trump is not on the ballot this fall. Postors say his lower pool numbers could create a major drag for GOP candidates in critical races for governor Sen. And for Congress. Three jurors in the Lindsey Clancy murder trial speaking publicly about the tense deliberations that ended in the mistrial. The jury for person and two other jurors told NBC 10 Boston the panel voted 11 to 1 to find Clancy not guilty by reason of insanity in the 2023 killings of her three young children. They claimed the lone holdout acknowledged having reasonable doubt but still would not support the insanity verdict. Jurors described growing frustration saying the holdout rarely reviewed exhibits or engage with the arguments about Clancy's mental health and the medications in her system. President Trump escalating the trade

3:08dispute with Canada by targeting Canadian products sold to the US government. Trump says he has directed the General Services Administration and the US Trade Representative to remove Canadian made products from federal purchasing schedules unless Canada provides what he calls full and fair reciprocity for American farmers and businesses. And the tigers. Well they added another fresh greeting chaper to their season. That's night and falling three to two to the Minnesota twins of America Park yet another one run law shortstop Kevin McGonagall provided all the offense for Detroit launching a Go ahead to run Homer in the fifth but the lead was short lived to twin second baseman Cody Clemens answered in the top of the six with the two run shout out Tiger starter drew Anderson and put Minnesota ahead for good. That's the headline. Also the Mid American conference wanted the NCAA to overturn that call that not only the call but the win the win. Yeah. Michigan had over Western Michigan University and the NCAA says no it stays

4:10where it is. Okay. Not a surprise. No. They just said we can't go back. We can't go back. No. The call the result will stand. The playing rules do not have a protocol for overturning the outcome of a game at the Division One football ball subdivision level according to their oversight committee. So they do not have the authority to do so according to the NCAA rulebook. The team with the most points at the end of the game is the winner and the scores final when the referee declares the game has ended. So unfortunately for Western Michigan they tried. Yeah. I mean, you got to, you know, you don't know that you try, right? Yeah. What do you think about these polls? I don't. I mean, it surprises to you in the post. Because most of them are basically statistical dead heats. Whether it's the governor's race or the Senate race. Well, look, the, the, the Senate race, some of those polls that we were seeing over the last couple of weeks, I thought were wrong. Okay. I just, I just, I, I, look, this may be one of my worst takes in history. And I will be proven wrong.

5:14If, if Al Abdel Al Sayed is elected to the US Senate here in Michigan, okay, I just don't see a scenario in which Abdel Al Sayed in the state of Michigan is up by four or five points. And that's where some of these polls were over the last couple of weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this one seems a little bit more realistic, I think. I think it's a little bit more. And what, what's the margin? It's a 40, 45.8% for mic Rogers, 44.4% for that. I think that's exactly where this thing is. Now, whether that's Abdel Al Sayed up one down one, whatever. Yeah. I think that's, but that's how close it is. Yeah. I mean, because it's in the margin of area. Four or five points. I don't, I don't think is real. Now they say Rogers is leading among independents and voters over 40. Al Sayed performs better among younger college, 80 college, educated and black voters. Interesting. Yeah. And that's one of the areas where he is struggle. Yeah. With the African American vote. Absolutely. Interesting. I find what these

6:16Lindsey Clancy jurors have come out and said to be pretty unbelievable. Here's what these three jurors from that trial have said specifically about what was going on inside that deliberating room and what the holdout was saying. Every one of us in the hours of a frustration would get up and walk the room because you just couldn't say anymore. He was very arrogant. He really did not take anything that anybody said. The nurses, he tried to ask a question about the medications and we went back to the report from Social Hospital. We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts. We read him on numerous occasions, the definition of a reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction. He actually said one day in the end, well, why don't we have the judge come in and read it again? And we were like, no, we have it in front of us. He had reasonable doubt.

7:17He admitted he had reasonable doubt after we watched that video of the interview. I think that's when it was. He admitted he had reasonable doubt. And I started filling out the forms. I was so excited. And then he said, but I'm still not going to say that she's not guilty by reason of incident. He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsey viciously killed her children. I mean, that does seem to be a hurdle. Yeah. She did. I feel like that is the hurdle that you'd have to get over. Yeah. It is fascinating to get that look inside the room. And when we were talking about it, you know, you felt like that's where they were leaning. Sure, especially because her defense. Yeah, just by the way that they were acting, it felt very much like they knew what those 11 jurors were thinking. Yes. They were thinking an acquittal by reason of insanity. They were thinking of not guilty by reason of insanity. And now from the horses mouth, you hear from these jurors that that is where

8:19they were going. And and this one hold out just couldn't get over the fact that she viciously killed her three kids. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, we didn't talk about this yesterday, but, you know, there was another young lady who did something similar and Illinois. And she's facing first degree murder charges, prosecutors say she fatally strangled her two year old son while experiencing an alleged mental health crisis in the authorities say 40 year old Corey Walsh was heavily fixated on the high profile Lindsey Clancy child murder trial and the hours leading up to the tragedy and police responded to Walsh's Frankwood home Tuesday afternoon, where neighbor found the toddler on responsive in the basement and there it was later pronounced dead at the hospital from a parent's fixation and officers found Walsh inflicting self harm inside the home and prosecutors alleged she made disturbing statements to investigators frameable as a

9:21psychotic break and a note she threatened her and her children husband. In a note. Yeah, she said her two year old was the devil or the anti Christ. And she was like really into this Lindsey Clancy trial. Yeah. Before this happens. Yeah. Terrible story. Another terrible story. How are these retaliatory Canadian tariffs going to affect us here in Michigan? We'll talk about it next this year morning. What we've been talking about it for some time now. I mean, Michigan's vulnerability when it comes to the tariff tiff, the back and forth between the United States and Canada because of our geographic location because of the collaborative work that the United States and Canada does together in Michigan at the center of all of that. And obviously the mod automotive industry is in that spotlight more than any other. And with these new retaliatory tariffs in effect, what can we come to expect? Let's talk about it. Glenn Stevens is the executive director of Mishado and joins us once again this morning. Glenn, good to have you back. Good morning, guys. How are you today? Well, we're good. Are you

10:26what are we starting to see now? These have been in place now for 24 hours or so. And what can we expect realistically over the next coming weeks if if a deal isn't put into place? Well, yesterday was quite a day. There was a lot that happened in Washington yesterday in Ottawa. Of course, the Canadian tariffs went into place. But then we decided to issue some retaliation on our own out of the US trade office in the White House. And we reworked some of the previous tariffs we did put in place. I mean, literally, yeah, that was scorecard for this thing at this point. And so what we can expect to see is unfortunately an escalation of a situation which looked really good just about 21, 22 days ago. We're not really sure what the impact is going to be across all factors. But what the biggest problem I think guys is that we're starting to punch holes into the framework of the USMCA. That's not a good sign. Should auto workers, Glenn, be concerned about

11:29production slowdowns or maybe some temporary layoffs or companies moving investments elsewhere? That's a great question. We get that question a lot. What I tell people is and I ran into a CEO this weekend and we talked about it. And I can tell you, we've talked about this before. One of the things they have everybody has is fatigue from this because it's hard enough to build a vehicle and a modern, in a modern global supply chain. And now you've got all this complexity that's coming at people. So this uncertainty word is very, very big. But what I would say to your question, Lloyd, is that the market's still pretty stable. It's not robust. It's not in bad shape. But it's really fragile. And if this keeps going in this direction, there's just no way that it's not going to dampen demand. And you know what happens when that happens and flows back to the supply chain. How do auto companies deal with this? And more broadly, how do they deal with it from a whiplash perspective? Because look, when you go from administration

12:32to administration, you know, a different party changes hands in the White House, all of a sudden you've got a different set of priorities. But when you start getting down to the nitty gritty and these tariffs start taking effect, how do the companies navigate those waters? Well, one of the things they do is they take a lot of resources from their, the people they have or having to hire external resources to navigate this. So you know, as I said, the supply chain's complex. But now you're laying on all these various tariffs and retaliatory. So what you need to do is you, personally, want to mitigate it. So you're going to look to how, how can I get around these tariffs? How can I maybe change a supply source on a resin or maybe a steel that I buy or aluminum I buy? So the amount of resources that it takes has really been exhausting. And then, you know, of course, they had tariffs which were reversed by the Supreme Court. So companies are not going back for refunds, more administrative costs. And then, of course, this big uncertainty, you're not going to make major decisions.

13:34You're not going to put, you're going to put expansion on hold. It's quite paralyzing. And again, I'll say it's fatiguing to companies to continually get up and say, okay, what do I have to navigate today? I wonder to, uh, Glenn, you know, the president is now threatening to block bombardier aircraft from the US market. Are, are you concerned that maybe expanding this dispute beyond the automobiles is going to make it hard for negotiated settlement? Well, you know, that's, that's interesting. That really weird. It's had the last few days too. I mean, bombardier is a basically an OEM that operates in Canada and they build vehicle or build aircraft. But they have literally hundreds, if not a thousand American suppliers that supply them, they have engines that come from different parts of the country, our country that go up to Canada. It's extremely similar to the integrated automotive supply chain. And it's extremely concerning that we're now expanding and looking at it,

14:35it's different products. And this is again, the framework for USMCA is still in place. But now that tariffs in the retaliatory are starting to supersede it. And that is really concerning. And it is going to impact things. And again, boy, we're really concerned about jobs. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the USMCA because I think that that's another major factor here is. So some of these tariffs are superseding that trade agreement, but that trade agreement is still in flux. Yeah, well, exactly. We were headed towards a path of strengthening it. And now we're very far from that. So the frameworks in place, but these tariffs and these retaliations do override it. And again, that's going to cause input costs to go up. And the tariffs have to be paid by somebody and companies cannot absorb more input costs right now. So what do they do? They have to pass that up the supply chain and ultimately to the customer. And while we don't know what we're going to see from a fallout standpoint, nothing is indicating real well

15:39right now. And we got about 30 seconds, Glenn. Does this dispute risk permanently damaging our relationship with Canada, even after the tariffs are maybe removed? Well, there's a lot of damage that's been done and it can be repaired. But I think the key is, I've said this before, we should be stronger together with Canada on a global stage, not separating ourselves or moving away from an incredibly important trade partner. Yeah, no doubt about it. Glenn Stevens, we appreciate you. Thank you. We'll talk soon. Thanks guys. Have a good day. You do the same. You know, the other part too is the United States does things well. Canada does things well. Mexico does things well. And we rely on all of those strengths in order to build a vehicle. Yes. And so when you start isolating, when you start pushing away, when you start throwing a monkey wrench into those those strengths, all of a sudden that really does throw off how you're able to produce at mass vehicles, for example.

16:43All right, coming up on the other side, Mike's, my cox is giving money back. Why? We'll talk about it. So generally, when you donate to a political campaign, you kiss that money goodbye. Yeah. You don't see it again. No, no. Just like I gave him. You don't think that you're going to, you're going to get it back at some point. No. Well, that's not what my cox is doing. Hey, you know, the former attorney general was running for governor here in the state of Michigan. He dropped out of the race. He said that once Donald Trump endorsed John James, it was, it was a snowball that just kept accumulating snow as it was rolling. And he said it changed the race. And he dropped out and through his endorsement behind John James. And of course, now John will lead the ticket for the Republicans here in the state of Michigan. But now my cox is actually returning campaign contributions in a unprecedented scenario. And my cox says that he is honoring

17:45the intent of donors who contributed to elect him governor, rather than using leftover funds for other political purposes. And my cox joins us this morning. Mike, it's good to have you. This is a, I got to tell you, when I read Nolan's piece, I had to read it three times because I didn't know, I know what I was reading. What, what possessed you to do with this? It's a sad day when you aren't being a pig and people think that's a big idea. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I, I, you know, Nolan, I was kind of shocked when he called me. I just thought it's what you do, right? Every other race went down to the wire and quite frankly, I blew every dollar. You know, if you wake up the day after election and you have one dollar left in your coffers, there's something wrong, right? Because it's like, you go all out. And as I explain to Nolan, you know, I had a, a first horrible poll July 3rd, where John had jumped up 15 points.

18:48The first poll we had done after Trump endorsed it. We had been in a tie. And, you know, and Perry and I both spent over four million dollars hitting John over the next two weeks. And we did another poll and it was exact same numbers. And I just knew I was cheating my donors, cheating my supporters to stay in to offer them a false choice. And, you know, some people gave me flak, but I did everything like in the moment. And, and I went back and I thought to myself, I have some leftover money. And so I'm just going to return every dollar that I got from July 3rd. You know, they took a chance on me. And when I got them, when I got a second poll, you know, I don't trust one poll, but you get a couple polls in a row. And we're hitting John and Trump is totally inoculated him. It was, it was a sad day when I, you know, when I had to give up, but I didn't want those folks paying for it. And I just thought that had been wrong. And, yeah. You know, Michigan candidates, you know, can legally redirect

19:54remaining campaign money in several ways should returning unspent donations, you think, be mandatory, instead of volunteer. I don't know, Roy, that might be a little too hard and fast. I haven't really thought about it other than what I thought was the right thing to do. You know, you can like give it to party groups and things like that. And I think that's legit. And if you totally clean out your, if you totally wrap up your campaign, you could give the money to charity. But I just didn't want to be one of those people who three years from now, I'm living off someone's dollar. I'm taking my wife out to the, you know, high park for stake and someone else's dollar three years from now. That's just not me. And it was kind of embarrassing and became such a big story. Especially, you know, we got big stuff going on with, you know, our education scores drop in and people struggling for healthcare. So I hope this is just a one or two day story and people go back

20:56and say, Hey, I let me, you know, I think John James is the right choice for the next four years. So that's, that's what I hope. I'll be honest, like, I hope it's not a three day story. I hope that this permeates throughout the country. I hope candidates that are seeking a higher office and, and maybe don't end up in that spot. Look at what they got in the coffers and go, yeah, let's bring it back to the people because I don't need it anymore. Right. This race is over. And if I decide later on to run again, I'll go ask those people and you know what you've created good will with people. You created a trust with people that you're not going to take your beautiful wife out to for a stake and on their dime. So I, I, I, I, I really, I, I'm telling you, I, I couldn't believe when I read this. Now, my question is why not just then use this money in another way, in another political way. Why not throw it behind this candidate or this candidate that you're supporting? Why? Why actually take the step and return it? Well, I, I am, you know, I've been very fortunate

21:59since I left office. I had some big cases I did well. So, you know, two thirds of my, my money was my wife's in mind. And, and so I'll, I'll get like some TV money back is the nature and you, maybe you guys it's probably similar in radio. You, you, you pay, you pay, you pay and the inventory doesn't all get spent. So I'll get some of that back. And I, and I'm going to form a pack. And, you know, I'm going to help Republicans like Tony forlini, Doug Lloyd, people in the house and, and John James. But, you know, like I said, so there, there's legit reasons. I just didn't want to be those guys. Like I said, three years from now, you, you see me, you know, getting a bottle service, it's someplace. I don't, I don't even know what that I've been in a place with bottle service before. I'd have to ask you guys about that. I guess, I don't know, but, but if, you know, I just didn't want to be that guy. And so if that starts a good trend, great.

23:02Well, it starts a good trend, great. And, you know, we all know that you were the former attorney general. Are there any changes? Can you think of any changes you would make to, you know, Michigan law to give donors more control and hold these former candidates accountable for these leftover funds? You know, Lloyd, I don't know what the right role would be. I guess it would be that no more than X percent could be kept right after election day. But, you know, usually people leave campaigns open. And like, for instance, Perry Johnson got knocked off the belt in 2022. His campaign still kept in, you know, he still had a little money, he kept money in it and stayed open. So I don't know, Lloyd, I have to think about that a little bit. And I say, the legislature ought to look at that, but boy, they're having the hardest time just doing some simple things. But, you know, but I'm hopeful, you know, I'm hopeful, you know, that we get

24:04some new leadership. And I hope folks. And again, Chris, you know, I agree with you people, to not be pigs, give the money back to donors, when and where appropriate. But, but like right now, over the next, you know, five, six weeks, we're something and I'm about, hey, do we want our kids to stay here? If we do, I tell people you got to vote for John James, right? If you really want education to change, after eight years of sliding, why do more of the same? You know, if you want healthcare prices or become competitive, like other states, you know, we need, we need an administration, a Republican governor, a legislature, they're going to push competition. And so we don't have, you know, we had 43 healthcare insurers in our state in 2013. Now we're down to 11. And you know, you know, that means that means less competition and more higher premiums. So it was a nice story that you got to want to reach out to me, but we got some, we got some big

25:05stuff to do here in Michigan. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Mike, we appreciate you. Thank you as always making yourself available. We'll talk soon. All right. You fellas, take care. I agree with you. I agree with you, don't Chris, man. Let this story continue because some some politicians need to hear this. Now, unfortunately, that's not going to happen. No, I know. Unfortunately, that isn't what's going to happen. Right. But that to me shows you who these leaders are. Sure. More than not. And of course, he's going to, he's got money that he's going to spend elsewhere. It's not, it's a, it's in this certain time frame that he was, that he was still accepting donations. But again, it's irrelevant. The fact that you were turning any money is, is that spectacularly unbelievable? Come on, man. And again, like, you know, me, like, I think one of the biggest issues in this country is all the money that's in politics. Yes. And then when you get to office, how you're able to somehow enrich yourselves and, you know, you don't have any sort of experience in stock trading, AOC or Nancy Pelosi and somehow you're multi millionaires. I don't

26:09didn't think you made that much money. Yeah. Coming up on the other side of the US military, discussing a smaller footprint in the Middle East, we'll talk about it coming up this year. So according to reports, US military and intelligence officials are behind the scenes discussing whether to reduce America's long term military footprint in the Middle East. If the administration is able to bring this current conflict with Iran to an end, they seem to be signaling that if they can come to some sort of resolution with Iran that they might not need the type of military presence in the region. And those discussions, according to these reports, are informal at this point, but it would be a major shift in US regional strategy in the Middle East, really post 9-11. So let's talk about it. What that means, Professor Said Khan teaches near Eastern studies at Wayne State University and joins us. Professor, it's great to have you back. Great to be back. Thanks so much, Chris. You know, one of the things that we've heard from Iran

27:10in the back and forth negotiations that haven't borne any fruit, unfortunately at this point, is they were talking about the United States pulling back from their military footprint in the region. I'm curious to know what that would mean for these countries, for the leaders of these countries. If they feel like America has pulled back willingly, what would that do for the tenor of the region? Well, I think actually it would bring about a greater sense of stability. Remember, the United States has had a presence there really predating the revolution in Iran in 1979 because of oil. This is, of course, a very strategically important region of the world when it comes to oil, even though the United States itself does not really import that much from the region anymore, if any. But as far as the Gulf States where the United States has had and remains right now with a military presence, places like Bahrain, which is the headquarters to the US

28:11fleet, sent Khan is located in Qatar, major strategic military sites in Kuwait, in Saudi Arabia, in the United Arab Emirates, and even in Jordan. The deal has always been that the United States would have these ostensibly to protect these Gulf States either from some kinds of rebellion or from Iran. Those countries have paid very hand-somely for the US military presence to be there. But the return on investment over the last six months has shown has been pretty poor. And in fact, has arguably put those countries in greater harm's way because the United States was essentially unable to protect them from the Iran's attack. So I think there's a lot of soul searching going on with the Gulf States. And I don't think that they would necessarily look at an American reduction of military presence there as a negative thing. We've heard presidents from both parties promise to pivot away from the Middle East, but you end up getting drawn back by some other crisis. Why is

29:13leaving the region been so difficult? Well, Lloyd, I think that's the Godfather Part Three problem with Michael Corleone's thing. Just as I thought I would leave, I get pulled back in. Look, I mean, there's a lot of American national security interests as they have been defined. One, of course, is petroleum, oil and gas and energy. The other has been to essentially put the American marker down in the region to keep out other powers or superpowers. That seems no longer to be either part of the American calculus or even the idea of whether that would be feasible. Russia is now involved in the Middle East in an unprecedented way and perhaps more significantly China. So this is really looking at the cards that are still on the table, that one has in the hand, not on the table, and deciding whether or not in America's long-term strategic interest, we really have the ability to leverage our military and our resources in the

30:13region. Even with our allies there, though, I'm curious to get your perspective from a political standpoint or a diplomatic standpoint. Obviously, if the United States is there as a protection method, but they're also there to collect intelligence. They're also there to be boots on the ground in the sense that the presence that they have there. Does those alliances strengthen with a pullback or would they become weaker? Well, when it comes to intelligence gathering, Chris, nothing beats having people on the ground, people having relationships over years, sometimes decades. And the United States is still in the position where it could go ahead and do that. Interestingly, and I think it's a very important point that you raised, the US particularly since the time of George W. Bush appears to have retracted from having those intelligence assets on the ground. Part of that has been shifting over to rely on cyber intelligence, which, of course,

31:14doesn't do the whole trick. It's kind of like having AI substitute for human intelligence. But the other which we don't want, Professor, we don't want that from your lift to God, dear Chris. But I hope my students are listening. But from the standpoint that our understanding of how to gather intelligence doesn't necessarily have to fundamentally switch if we have our own engagement involved with these Gulf states. We still have very good relationships with them. So I don't see how that would not continue. And real quick, how might this, you know, how might Iran interpret this, this US drawdown? And they look at it as a victory or a sign of American weakness or maybe an opening for diplomacy? Well, Lloyd, I mean, if you take a look at recent history, whether it's Vietnam 1951, if you took a look at Afghanistan 2021, sorry, 1975 in Vietnam, after 21 years of American presence there, if you look at Afghanistan,

32:202021 after he's a 22 or 42 years of American engagement there, generally when we take troops out, that already signals a kind of a defeat. When we win like in Japan and Germany, we actually send more people in. Right. Iran will see this as a defeat, but they'll see it pragmatically. They're not going to be doing victory laps. They're going to be very cool. Sure. Customers and this will be very realistic. Professor side can always appreciate your insight. Thank you. We'll talk again soon. I hope so. Thank you. You got it. Seven o'clock hour coming up. It's Chair Mourning. Chair Mourning, seven, oh five. Good to have you with us. And a lot to talk about still to combat Fitzgerald. The headball coach at Michigan State joins us coming up at 719. Another big game coming up for them this weekend and then they got Notre Dame in week three. So we'll talk to him about all of that. But let's get to the headlines. And a new poll shows Democrat Jocelyn Benson with the narrow lead over Republican John James

33:22and the race for Michigan governor, the Detroit News WDIV survey found Benson 47% support, compared with 43% for James and other 10% undecided or supporting someone else over in the Michigan Senate race that poll from Detroit News WDIV shows Republican Mike Rogers with a 45.8% support Democrat Abdul El Sayat 44.4% 9% remain undecided. Rogers is 1.4 point edge is well within the surveys for point margin of error and a new poll as well from the Detroit News and the IV shows Republican Mike Rogers, oh that 45% to 44% for Abdul El Sayat. It also talks about how President Trump is affecting the races. It's a growing political threat as the president's approval ratings dropped sharply. And according to that poll 61% of likely Michigan voters now disapprove of President Trump's job performance two years into his second term. That matches Joe Biden's

34:24disapproval rating in the state of Michigan in early 2024. The jurors at least three of them in the Lindsey Clancy murder trial speaking publicly about the tense deliberations and ended in the mistrial. The jury four person and two others told NBC 10 in Boston, the panel voted 11 to 1 to find Clancy not guilty by reason of insanity in the 2023 killings of her three children. They claimed alone hold out acknowledge having reason for her. But still would not support the insanity burning jurors described growing frustration saying the hold out rarely reviewed exhibits or engage with their arguments about Clancy's mental health and the medications in her system. Also President Donald Trump escalating the trade dispute with Canada by targeting Canadian product sold to the US government. Trump says he has directed the general services administration and the US trade representative to remove Canadian products from federal purchasing schedules unless Canada provides what he calls full and fair reciprocity for American farmers and businesses. And ABC is pushing back against the report that

35:29Jimmy Kimmel live will in next year. Page six sites, unnamed sources who say Kimmel's contract will be would not be renewed after the upcoming season ending his late night run in May of next year after 24 years. Oh, tremendous. I mean, I or sad. I don't care. It wouldn't surprise me though if that happened. No, of course not. Nobody watches late night TV anymore. They're dropping like flies. I don't know how Byron Allen show is doing on what is that? NBC's CBS? Yeah, I have no idea. I have no idea as well. So I mean, we'll see. I just think that's not surprising. It's huge. Lose again last night. Dream too. Tremendous. I do want to go back to something you said. What? Boy, we get on that and get off of that real quick. What am I supposed to say? I'm facing you have anything to add on the Tigers? You don't want to break it down? No.

36:32Nothing to be is broken. You know what? We care about our listeners time. And there's a lot of other things to talk about. Unfortunately, the time is well. We like to do run over. That was a bright spot. That was it. But we love it. And nine innings. Yeah, got it. Okay. Um, I do want to go back to something you said about Trump's approval rating at 61% of people disapprove of his job that he's done. Isn't it odd then that the Republicans are holding this midterm convention? Yeah. Because you've got the RNC committee chair, John Grooters, has been calling this a Trump of Paloza. It's odd to me then that you would hold a big event centered around Donald Trump when his approval rating is so low. Now you can make the argument. And he has made the argument that when Donald Trump is on the ballot, his voters come out when he's not on the ballot, crickets, people stay home. Now, why is that? I don't know. Because if you are a supporter of Donald

37:37Trump, and there are still a lot of Trump supporters that are on board with Donald Trump, just might everything that's gone on here in the second term. His agenda is still on the ballot. What he's able to do in Congress is still on the ballot. All of those things still exist. That hasn't gone away whether or not his name is there and you feel in the bubble next to it. Everything that he wants to do and has talked about doing is still there. Still up for grabs. So I find it odd that voters don't come out or at least on the Republican side, just from recent history. They don't come out for the midterms for some reason. And he made the case when he was stumping for Darling Graham down in South Carolina. He said, so what I really want you to do is pretend please that I am on the ballot. Just come and vote. It's so important. Yeah. So he's trying to make that case. He's trying to make the case. They're having this convention this week. And then he's going to start traveling and going to different states

38:38and campaigning with the different people. And he's going to hope that that's going to energize the voters in those states. I'm sure he's going to be here as well supporting Mike Rogers and John James. And I'm sure he's hoping that they, you know, seeing him and, you know, being here that will energize and get folks to the ballot. The last time there was a midterm convention, the Democrats held one in 1982. They've been scrapped since then. So the Republicans look, they got more money than the Democrats. So they have the ability to pull something on like this in an effort to try to drum up supporters. And that's what they're going to start trying to do today. And then of course you've got these jurors that have come out. Yes. And I want to play the audio in the Lindsey Clancy trial. In the Lindsey Clancy trial, 11 to 1 was the was the mistrial number. Yes. And here's what they had to say. Every one of us in the hours of a frustration would get up and walk the room. Because you just couldn't sit him off. He was very arrogant. He really did not take anything that

39:45anybody said. The nurses, he, he tried to ask a question about the medications. And we went back to the report from South Shore Hospital. We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts. We read him on numerous occasions the definition of regional doubt from Judge Sullivan instruction. He actually said one day in the end, well why don't we have the judge come in and read it again. And we were like, no, we have it in front of us. He had reasonable doubt. He admitted he had reasonable doubt. After we watched that video of the interview, I think that's what it was. He admitted he had reasonable doubt. And I started filling out the forms. I was so excited. And then he said, but I'm still not going to say that she's not guilty by reason of incident. At the hardest time getting up the fact that Lindsey viciously killed her children. Okay. So he can't get off that point because I did. Yeah. I think what I hear in that is the

40:48tension. I could hear the frustration from that. Oh, absolutely. Don't you feel it? Oh, yes. Absolutely. You could feel how very thick. Yeah. How the frustration from the 11. Right. And again, like I talked to the kids all the time about peer pressure. Right? Peer pressure. When you're in that type of scenario, big national case, everybody's watching. Everybody is hanging on everything that the jury is asking for is doing what it signals when they want to leave early, when they need a clarification, everybody's hanging on everything that comes from that room. Yes. And then you hear this from them, you can feel the tension. Oh, absolutely. That kind of reminds me also, I don't know if we ever saw the movie 12 Angry Men. You know, when these, you know, men were in the jury room and everybody was voting one way of one lone holdout. Right? And by the end of the movie, he had flipped everybody to his way of thing. Sure. You know, absolutely. You know, those things can happen, but didn't happen this time. Tom for W.J.R's business, be brought to you by shelving.com. We rack your world. Here's Jeff

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43:55star. Yes. They win their first game of the season. And now they're looking on to game number two. Let's talk about it with our man Steve Courtney and the head coach at Michigan State football path. It's shared coach. It's good to have you. Good morning guys. All right. Steve, good morning to you. Good morning, Chris Lloyd. Hello again, everyone. Coach, good morning. You know, congratulations on win number one again, 30, 20 over the visiting Toledo Rockets coach. I'm very curious. Take us back to last Friday morning. You wake up. You go through the process of being a head college football coach for the first time in four years. Had to be a special moment not only for yourself, but your wife Stacy, your three grown sons Jack Ryan, Brendan, talk about that and the ride to Spartan Stadium Friday coach. Yeah, that was great. I would have liked an 11 a.m. kickoff instead of an 8. So it was a long day for all of us, but yeah, no, going from the Scandalist football center over

44:59to the Kellogg Center and then starting the Spartan Walk was absolutely surreal, just so thankful for the Spartan nation. The building was electric and what a great way to start with the win. Obviously, we can play a lot better, but you know, just unbelievable to be a part of the pageantry of Spartan football. Let's talk about the identity of this Spartan team. I know it's so early in the year and let's add this to the equation coach. You come into this season with 50 plus new players, eight new assistant coaches, but I thought maybe we got an indication as to what this team is all about as far as being a resilient group. After that 71 yard touchdown run, puts Toledo on top 2019 1347 left in the fourth quarter. There was absolutely no panic by the Spartan home team was there. Yeah, no, absolutely not. And you know, the game shouldn't have been that close. We go five for five and scoring drives, you know, in the first first half, but you know, with,

46:01you know, four of those being field goals, you know, it's a completely different conversation that we're having here this morning if we just finish our drives offensively. Now, from an identity standpoint, I agree. I think it's a little too early to tell. I know what we aspire to be, but you know, we're not there yet. And that doesn't mean there's anything negative. It just means we've got work to do and we'll be at that an earnest here at the top of the hour with special teams meetings and then on to the field. So, uh, part of the way the guys responded, we, we cannot allow teams to hang around like we did. You're flirting with fire and the football gods will not allow you to do that. But we got away with it. We learned from it. We responded well in game and now we need to be one week better this week. You talk about the curtain going up on a new season. I thought it was rather impressive. You know, coach, you've been around long enough. Game ones sometimes a bit sloppy. Four penalties, 43 yards. No, you don't want any penalties. I get that. I understand that. But you can even carry that over to Liam Boyd. Oh, dear, what a game. Five field goals, uh, hitting one from 51 yards. I

47:09mentioned that because again, in the opener, uh, it's got to be everything in harmony. We're talking about the long snapper to restocking one of six captains by the way the punner, the holder, it was flawless. Yeah, does Ansky to to re-stake in and then, you know, Liam doing his job. Well, it wasn't flawless. Now we can have great splits and great protection on on on our first field goal, the second half, that then gave it to lead a life, which gave them a lot of credit. But yeah, I mean, those four penalties were penalties of aggression. Meaning in the game, you know, we got two holding calls, two unoffence, one on defense and a pass interference call. Like, you know, as a coach, you've got to clean up the fundamental and the technique. But those aren't pre-snap issues, right? Like fall starts to lay a game, jumping off sides, uh, lack of discipline issues with, with unsportsman likes or late hits. So yeah, I thought from a standpoint of would we like to have zero penalties for sure? Could they call the two offensive holding calls every play? Sure. Uh,

48:13but that's the way the game goes. We had eliminated and those two were killer because they were both in the scoring zone that took us kind of, you know, got us off off track and we just weren't able to respond and overcome those two. So, you know, we've got to grow from a lot to build on and a lot of work to do and the guys have been, you know, hard at it here this week. All right. Doing your press comments on Monday coach, you talked about your respect for the Mac conference. We have another member Eastern Michigan coming to beautiful Spartan stadium Saturday afternoon 330 kick against the Hurons. You're truly with the tailgate show at 1230. Uh, just another opportunity, sir. As you talked about in your press conference to take advantage of what was a very electric Spartan crowd Friday night. Yeah, looking for, you know, you guys get to get up a little earlier Spartan nation. So, you know, let's get ready to rock here 330. Uh, yeah, Chris Greaten has done a phenomenal job at Eastern 30 years as a head football coach. You know, 201 wins, you know, those are all hard to hurt and,

49:20you know, is someone who's numb, this wild. Right. So far enough to be back in Spartan stadium Saturday 330. Let's get to place rock and have a lot of fun. Uh, quickly coach, humid humid night, Friday night in the opener. Uh, perhaps leading some injuries. I know, can med words are fine. Running back also, marvelous parish. Uh, linebacker Jordan Hall. Uh, the big left tackle up there. Ben Muronsky all suffered an ailment along the way. The house going into Eastern, if you will. Everybody feels cool. So do I. Boom. Coach, thank you very much for your time all the best. You guys are awesome. Ever great day. You two coach. Go away. You know, let's leave tough team. They, they, they show that all that work they did in the offseason really paid dividends, uh, really fun watch and can't wait for Saturday. Let's get to it. Looking forward to a Chris Lloyd. Thank you very much. As always, Steve Courtney here on Jair. Morning. We'll take a break. Get you caught up on the headlines coming up. Share more.

50:22So the Michigan Department of Education released that statewide assessment. Uh, including the M step, the Michigan student tests and educational progress results. And they, they show a third grade reading decline from 38.9% percent to 38.2%. eighth grade math. Same in the wrong trajectory. But there might be some bright spots in the Detroit public schools community district. Let's talk about it with Angelique power, the president and CEO of the Skillman Foundation and co-host with Lloyd Jackson on our state of education here on WJR. Angelique, it's good to have you. Hey, good morning. Nice to be here. So we're seeing these numbers go the wrong way statewide. But what is DPSC doing that that their numbers are actually improving? Yeah. And, um, I will also say that MDE would point out that the shift downward from 38.9, like you said, to 38.2 is nominal. So in essence, it's flat and it's not going in the right direction

51:29in terms of the slight decrease within the 38%. But, um, I think that it's important for us to remember across the state we have worked to do. And it isn't on a sharp decline. Um, but you are right. DPSCD is this incredible bright spot in not so great news. So third grade reading is up. Um, it has actually hit a district record. It is at 14.1% proficient, not great. But up from 12.9% last year, it was 11.9% before the pandemic. So while the state's numbers are declining a bit, we are seeing a really positive trajectory and third grade reading for DPSCD. Eight grade math also set a district record. It's at 12.4% that's up to 0.5 points from where it was 11th grade college readiness, edged up to 13.3% and the states went down to 25%. So what I want to

52:32say about this is that there are more students enrolled in taking the FATs. And often when you see a little bit of these increases happen, it's because students are setting out and not taking the test. The ones that can't do so well. And so the scores seemingly are increasing. Not the case for the DPSCD. There are more students fitting for the SAT. And the final thing also, social studies is really the quiet standout. Eighth grade went from 7% to 25.2% proficient since 2018, 2019, 11th grade went from 17% to 33.7%. So there's reasons we can unpack, but we got to recognize progress when it's happening. And you mentioned the eighth grade math scores in Detroit reaching a district high jumping to 12.4%. You know, math a lot of times, Angela, we get often overshadowed by you know, reading initiatives. What's happening in these middle school classrooms that's kind of

53:33helping move that needle? There's a lot of things that are happening that actually, I want to emphasize, Lloyd, the specific point. It is one silver bullet that's happening. When you see these types of gains that happen year over year in reading math and social studies, it's a confluence of things that are working at a systemic level. So what you're seeing is incentives around reducing chronic asymptism. And we know that if students are in their seats more, they are going to do better in school. What you're seeing is more wraparound supports that are happening at the district level. EPSCD has also outpaced the state in terms of teacher retention. And so I can't underscore how important it is to not just get good educators, increase their pay, which DPSCD has done, but keep them year after year. And then there's also supports in the classrooms. So it's not one teacher in an oversized classroom. It's several teachers that are focusing in on where students need help

54:35and giving it to them. Well, it is certainly good news for DPSCD. Something good is happening in that district. And they're able to get these scores up. And hopefully they just keep on rising. Angelique, power. We appreciate your time. As always, thank you. And we'll talk again very soon. Nice thing out with you guys. Yeah. And of course, you can catch her and Lloyd Jackson added on our state of education. Absolutely. J.R. ABC is pushing back against this report, Chris, that Jimmy Kimmel live is going to end next year. Page six sites, unnamed sources who say Kimmel's contract will not be renewed after the upcoming season ending his late night run in May of next year after 24 years. But a ABC spokesperson caused a report inaccurate and purely speculative, saying no decision has been made about the show's future. Kimmel currently has a one year agreement keeping him at ABC through May of next year. He has frequently criticized the president who has repeatedly attacked Kimmel and called for his show to be canceled. The program was temporarily suspended last year. Following controversy over Kimmel's comments about the assassination of conservative active

55:36as Charlie Kurt. For now, however, ABC says Kimmel's departure is not confirmed. Not confirmed. Not, uh, they're not, they're not, they're not saying no, Jimmy Kimmel is our long term plan. J.R. ABC. No. Look, here's what I would say. Here's what this kind of smells like. Okay, you got a little smell to it. Kind of smells like. Okay. Somebody let the cat out of the back. Now maybe that was an inside job. Could be. Maybe somebody knew. Uh huh. If their contract wasn't going to be renewed, uh huh. That if you leak it, you drum up some controversy, you get some support, some people, uh huh. You know, I feel like no, listen, we know how late night is. But look, that could just be me wearing a tinfoil hat. I don't know. But all I'm saying is it's not out of the realm of possibility in 2026. A dual way with these shows. No, no, and it doesn't surprise me because, you know, late night TV has been catching a lot of these shows are going, you know, they're leaving and they're being canceled because they're too expensive to, to do and you know, these contracts

56:38are huge and they can do things cheaper. And so, you know, I don't know. I remember seeing, um something on social media from one of the interviews they did. And I kind of like clicked on their page to see what else they were putting out. I didn't know most of the people. Now that doesn't mean these people aren't well known, right? But like in the, in the popular culture zeitgeist, there weren't a lot of people there that, you know, a 37 year old would know. Yeah. Yeah. And so, I think it's just changing. Like we don't use floppy disks anymore. We don't. How many people are walking around with a walkman or a CD player? No, what are you doing that? Nobody. I mean, tell them into stores anymore. It's just different now. Yeah. It's different. So I don't, I just, I don't understand why people are pushing back against this or because Donald Trump doesn't like, okay, fine. Yeah. Here's a scary thought. There's a lot of people that don't like Jimmy Kimmel. I don't like Jimmy Kimmel. I don't think he's funny. Yeah. And your job in that spot is to make me go, ha ha. Yes. And I very rarely go, ha ha when I watch that show. Exactly. It's at some point you

57:43have to go, how much does this cost? How much is it bringing in? How many sponsors do we have that are still hanging around? If it ain't working, it ain't working because these sponsors are probably using social media and going to other spots to do the advertising. Of course they are. You know, so I just, to me, it's like everybody's so upset about it. It's like James Gordon left his replacement. That shows gone. Yeah. Yeah. What's his name? Steven Colbert gone. Right. All these guys are gone. It's because it doesn't work. The format is not the same as he used to be. All right. We'll take break more coming up on J our morning, including an audit showing deficiencies in oversight in public health in Michigan. It's next. So the nonpartisan office of the auditor general here in the state of Michigan identified significant deficiencies in oversight from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services to the Michigan Public Health Institute. And there are lawmakers that say there are serious concerns about transparency and accountability of the state management of taxpayer resources in these departments. Let's talk about it with

58:49representative Ann Blonde the chair of the House Appropriations Committee. Representative, it's good to have you back. Great to be back. Good morning. Thank you for having me. Of course. So let's talk about this new audit and what what does it show? Well, it shows that you know we have an accountability and transparency problem here in the state of Michigan with our governmental administration through the state department under the executive branch. Namely in the Department of Health and Human Services in these contracts to the Michigan Public Health Institute. And it shows that material conditions and their independent audit, things like no vetting of subcontractors, no checking of reports to see if the expenses were actually paid just signing off on invoices and paying out. And we're not talking you know 100 to $200 or even a hundred or $200,000. We're talking about millions of dollars that are funneled

59:50through this organization, this agency with no accountability. They hire administrative rate then is allowable under the contracts. And again, not by one or two percent by over 10%. So they approved rates 4.9%. They're allowing 17.5% in admin costs. Over a million dollars in travel and training to the subcontracts. This is a serious deficiency in the oversight through the Department of Health and Human Services. You know, nearly 70% of the financial reports with you reportedly lack supporting cost documentation. How does that happen on this scale without somebody inside the department raising a alarm? I do not know and that is why we have asked for I've held appropriations committees, joint committees with oversight, turned it over to our oversight committee to take a deeper dive. And this is before this audit came out. There was a question

1:00:51on just what the level of accountability, reliability, trustworthiness, and you know, I have a billion dollars of projects were awarded in two years under the Democratic Trisecta. You know, we see this very similar to how some of the other statewide departments are being run and our job is is the oversight and I'm grateful that the auditor general goes in and does an independent review of these departments and these agencies. But this MPHI is at an arms link from the legislature. So we are depending on the departments to be checking this stuff. And we get wholesale information from the department, but we can't dig into the details. That's extremely important to have these inquiries, these audits by the auditor general. Okay, so now you've got the audit. What can you and the legislature do at this point? Well, we're going to be taking a very deep dive, adding for asking for accountability, asking in subcommittees, calling MPHI and again, and asking on specific contractual agreements and asking

1:01:59what are you doing where you at, you know, who's been doing the traveling, what is your significant finding, finding out what the progress is. Is this just a flow through money, you know, paying friends or is it, are they doing legitimate business on behalf of the state and the Department of Health and Human Services? And you know, I will say, reflecting back, you know, I understand there was a lot of money that came through the federal government for COVID. It does not give you an excuse to be cheating the system or cheating the taxpayers. Are you prepared to withhold or a place on any kind of conditions on future funding until some maybe some stronger safeguards are in place? Absolutely. And we have already done that. I'm proud to say that I love the charge on more accountability and our work projects, more requirements in the transparency. We have something in the budget called boilerplate. It's somewhat, you know, what I refer to is the narrative and the spending plan. And we did come to agreement in a negotiated budget with governor and the Senate and that there will be more reporting, more accountability, more

1:03:03timeliness on this. So we can get this information at a much more important part and also it's the checks and balances at the beginning of the project. And, you know, I've been digging deep into this, you know, House Republicans have in many ways and we see a lot of deficiencies very similar to this and the way the state has been managed the last couple of years. Representative Ambole and we appreciate your time as always. Thank you. Keep us up to date on this. I will. Thank you very much. We have a great day. Yep. You got it. You do the same. I mean, according to this audit, the department paid about $108 million before receiving or reviewing documentation validating that the work was done. Just sign off. You just can't do that. No. I mean, you just can't do that. I don't care. I don't care who it's from, where it's going. I doesn't matter. I mean, look, the reality is, is that a lot of money in the grand Michigan budget? It's a sliver. It's a sliver. But you know what it is. But it's still

1:04:08our money, right? Yeah. Still tax payer money. Yeah. Still your money. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I mean, this is where, you know, when people are clamoring for transparency, it's just one of the other examples. Yeah. Yeah. Now, it may not be nefarious. It may not be completely out of question. Like it might not be like a terrible thing. But again, people need to know what's happening with their money. People need to know that it's being spent responsibly. And it's being done on the up and up. And it's being done in a glass window. And there's nothing wrong with that. No, no, nor should there ever be anything with that. All right, eight o'clock hour coming up here on Jaira Morning. We'll get you caught up on the headlines coming up next on Jaira Morning. All right, eight o'clock here on a Wednesday morning. It's good to have you with us. Whether it's cleared up a little bit. Yeah. A little rainy this morning. But it's going to be even better this afternoon and better this afternoon and better really the rest of the week. Yeah. Two. Um, meanwhile, we are following a number of different stories. So let's get to it.

1:05:13Well, the new poll shows Democrat, Josh Lam Benson with a narrow lead over Republican John James and the race for Michigan governor, the Detroit News WDIV survey found Benson with 47% support compared with 43% for James, another 10% undecided or supporting someone else. The survey also found 61% of likely voters disapprove of President Donald Trump's job performance while 35% approve Benson leads among Trump critics. James dominates among the president's supporters, Post-Evigian Zuba says Republicans should be concerned because most undecided voters are strongly disapproving of President Trump. Meanwhile, the Michigan U.S. Senate race is a statistical dead heat with less than two months before the election that Detroit News WDIV poll shows Republican Mike Rogers with a 45.8% support Democrat Abdul Al-Sayed 44. 4% 9% remain undecided among voters who say they will definitely cast a ballot. The result flips with L.S.I.A.T. leading 46.7% to 44.4% Post-Evigian Zuba says Republican voter motivation is lagging behind

1:06:19Democratic enthusiasm. The survey also found Rogers leading among independents and voters over 40 while L.S.I.T. performs better among younger college educated and Black voters. And the poll also shows that 61% of likely Michigan voters now disapprove of President Trump's job performance two years into his second term that matches Joe Biden's disapproval rating in the state back in early 2024. Some former Comaric Abaint customers were left locked out of their accounts yesterday following a major system converged by Fifth Third. The disruption comes as Fifth Third officially integrated Comaric's branches in 600,000 customer accounts over the holiday weekend, completing its nearly $11 billion merger. Despite prior instructions and to customers, many reported several login errors at Fifth Third online tools, long phone, wait times, packed branch locations. In a statement, Fifth Third pointed to transition to help guides available online. The officials did not directly address the tech glitches,

1:07:20the integration follows, the closure of 75 local branches, hundreds of job cuts across Michigan as Fifth Third becomes the nation's ninth largest bank. And the Lindsey Clancy trial, the three jurors in the Lindsey Clancy murder trial, speaking publicly about the tense deliberations that ended in a mistrial, the jury, four person, two others, uh, told NBC 10 in Boston, the panel voted 11 to 1 to find Clancy not guilty by reason of insanity in that 2023 killing over three young kids. They claim, uh, they claim that the loan holdout acknowledged having some reasonable doubt, but still would not support the insanity verdict. Jurors described growing frustration, saying the holdout rarely reviewed exhibits or engaged in their arguments about Clancy's mental health and the medications in her system. After more than six days of deliberation, the jury remained deadlocked and Judge William Sullivan declared a mistrial. It's not yet clear whether the prosecutors will retry that case. Certainly feels like they're going to retry that case. They're

1:08:21going to do something. Yeah, but, but, but what these jurors are saying at this point is, uh, is really unbelievable when you consider how quickly this case, uh, really just ended, right? You're talking last week and all of a sudden they're saying this. Every one of us in the hours of a frustration would get up and walk the room because you just couldn't sit you know. He was very arrogant. He really did not take anything that anybody said. The nurses, he, he tried to ask a question about the medications and we went back to the report from Social Hospital. We had the toxicology report. We could see exactly the amounts. We read him on numerous occasions the definition of a reasonable doubt from Judge Sullivan's instruction. He actually said one day in the end, why don't we have the judge come in and read it again and we were like, no, we have it in front of us. He had reasonable doubt. He admitted he had reasonable doubt after we watched that video of the

1:09:24interview. I think that's when it was. He admitted he had reasonable doubt and I started filling out the forms. I was so excited. And then he said, but I'm still not going to say that she's not guilty by reason of insane. He had the hardest time getting off the fact that Lindsey viciously killed her children. I do think it's important to note here too is we're hearing from one side. Yes. Now granted of those 12 jurors, it was 11 to one. 11 to one. It wasn't six to six. It wasn't seven to five. No, it wasn't eight to four. Hopefully my math is right. Okay. But my period of one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. My point is is we haven't heard from this other juror. No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody will get him. Well, I would love to hear what he has to say. I would too. I really would. And I think what they're saying is probably true specifically at the end that the judges or the that juror just said, look, I can't look past the fact that this lady strangled

1:10:26her three children with exercise bands. Yes. That this lady sent her husband on a little air and trip. And and look, the whole situation is tragic. I have no doubt that this lady is not well. I have no doubt that she's not well. Right. But I think that there are facts in that case for some people that feel that would feel this like this guy with what's real. Yes. Yeah. I really do. And I think there are a lot of people that have that opinion. Now again, when you're a juror, you're in that room, you have instructions. Yes. And and and and they're saying he didn't follow those instructions. Okay. That's an entirely different conversation. But somehow these 11 jurors based on the evidence that was provided. They came to that same conclusion. Yeah. And it sounded like a couple of them were even late to the party. Uh huh. I think at some point, there were a couple of people that flipped regardless. Now it moves into what happens next. And it certainly

1:11:29seems like the DA is going to retry that case. Yeah. At some point. Also, uh, the the Mac appealed to the NCAA. They wanted Western Michigan to be recognized for having defeated Michigan in that first game of the season. And the NCAA said no. We can't turn back the clock. Can't turn back the clock. There's no rule in our rule book that would allow us to change it. We've provided the evidence. Wait, wait, wait, wait. The big 10 has provided the evidence. Yes. You just said you can't turn back the clock, but you can certainly add to it. Can you? Did they add to it or was there a second left? Yeah, we did talk about this. I wasn't here yesterday. It's right to bet. Yeah. I think there was a second left from the magical clock that they discovered in the big 10 office. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'm a Michigan fan too. Here's the thing. No, I look. Look, I, I, I think there's a there's a lot you can be upset about. There's a lot that you can be upset about. If you're a Michigan fan, yeah, if you're a Western fan, there's one thing you can be upset about. But if you

1:12:33go back in that game, I mean, look, this is why you can't adjudicate the, the, the, you can't adjudicate a game based on one thing because you go back and you start looking at different points in that game. And I'm a sick. Oh, I've done it. Okay. And like there were mis penalty calls. There was another situation where the were Michigan on that last drive got a first down in the clock. Tick the next or second. They never left that long Western Michigan drive. There were spots that were questionable. Of course, and there's one, the one play for Western is that interception. He doesn't step out of bounds. He takes it to the house. The other games over there. Absolutely. That's it. I mean, there's a lot of different things that you could adjudicate. The big 10 and the NCAA came out and the, the proof was there. Yeah. So I mean, again, I get it. I understand. I understand the frustration. If you're Western, I would never let this go. Oh, no, ever. Yeah. I was just glad to see they did do something. Why? They shouldn't wear those uniforms again. Who knows? Who knows how this ends up Chris at the end

1:13:36of the season. You know, as we approach the 25th remembrance of 9 11 Fox News radio's Tonya J powers is sitting with survivors and recounting personal stories of that day that changed America forever. Well, artificial intelligence in the classroom is. Front and center as we get this school year started at the K through 12 level. It's certainly something that is being talked about at length. In colleges and universities around the country. And certainly here in Michigan. And there have been some, the conversations about whether or not banning AI in schools is a good thing. Like, for example, in New York City. Yes. They've done it. What grade? I believe it's the younger grades. Yeah. So, so basically, they're looking at it as we're going to take this out of their hands, not going to be able to use it. It's a pause actually for like, it's a trial for this year. Yes. For this year. And then they'll revisit it at the end. Yes. And the question is, is that a good

1:14:38idea? Because AI is certainly going to be a part of our every day in the next, I mean, it already is to a certain degree, but at a much wider degree in the next five, 10 years. And so do you want kids to be able to know how to navigate that? Is that something that they should be learning? Let's talk about it. Alina Zachary Ross is a superintendent of the Ipsilanti community schools and joins us this morning. It's great to have you superintendent. Good morning. Thanks for having me on today. What is your perspective on this? Educators are taking different approaches towards artificial intelligence in the classroom. Where do you stand? Yeah. Well, you know, I can completely understand why some parents will be anxious to hear about young people five year old interacting with these chat box. They don't want their children to be getting picks, but at superintendent, I can tell you that the sweeping bands are just an illusion of control. We understand that AI, as you said, is already

1:15:38embedded in a lot of our things. They're embedded in our Chromebooks and our Google tools and our scholars use it every day. And so having a blanket band doesn't stop our scholars from using it. It just widens the equity divide that we already see. And superintendent, you know, a lot of supporters say, AI can provide personalized tutoring. You got the critics who say that it weekends critical thinking, how do you capture the benefits without allowing students to avoid the hard work of learning? Absolutely. You know, we've got to have those high expectations with high levels of support. We've seen it in our district really support our scholars. One of our teachers combines that generative AI with audio generations and translation platforms to, you know, to really bring that learning to the levels, especially of our EL students and our students with special needs. And so we can't, we've got to use AI ethically, but it can't replace the humanity. It has to be

1:16:38able to accelerate access for those vulnerable scholars. So how are you approaching in an Ipsilanti? In Ipsilanti, we really, we have put on guard rails. We have AI policies, but what we do every Monday, we send out a Monday AI playbook for our educators. We have AI conferences because we, the big issue is that many of our teachers, they're not anti-technology. They just don't feel supported. So we've given a lot of expectation of high expectations, but high levels of support for our educators, as well as we have an AI youth ambassador council. And those scholars really help us to deliver the message to their peers in a way that peers can understand that integrity and ethical implications that is required. And you know, students are going to enter a workforce, super intended, where AI is, is coming. I mean, could banning it like leave them unprepared or must they first like master reading and writing

1:17:44an independent thinking before they start using it? They've got to do both. We definitely can have to focus on the basics of reading, writing, and arithmetic that we all grew up on. And they have to really understand how to navigate in this world with AI. That critical thinking is a bolt-in. And we have to teach them what the superpowers of our humans are and the superpowers of when we'll use AI. We don't necessarily need to use the AI at all times, but a lot of jobs now require them to have basic knowledge. And especially that integrity piece and ethical implication piece, we have to teach AI literacy in our school. Super intended of Ipsilanny Community Schools, Elena Zachary Ross, we appreciate your time this morning. Thank you. Thanks for having me today. Yeah, you got it. And I also look at the, you know, what AI could do to maybe help support kids. I believe the the superintendents in this too, kids with disabilities or maybe English language, you know, learners. I mean, I think if you have this sweeping band and

1:18:49may unintentionally kind of remove the tools from some children who may generally need some help who they who it could really help. Here's what I would point to. Steve Jobs never gave his kids an iPad. Bill Gates wouldn't give his kids a smartphone till they were into their teens. Okay. Peter Teal would limit his kids to 90 minutes of screen time per week. Evan Spiegel, a Snapchat restricted his kids to about 90 minutes of screen time a week. Sunder Pachai of Google says that his son did not have a phone at age 11 and that home television was hard to access. There was an interesting piece in the New York Times a couple of weeks ago about these tech giants and how they approached their children with their technology. And basically in a nutshell, they're like, you don't get it. You're not using it. Why is that? Good question. And I want to know if they know if they did that, how come they didn't talk about it openly to others who are using their products.

1:19:54Yeah, because they know that keeping your head in a phone for hours on an hour or watching hours of TV a day will watch you. Now put it out there and the parents are going to decide how that's going to happen. Well, of course, because that's not good for the bottom line. Exactly. But they don't want to, you know, they'll treat their kids a little different. Of course. I think there's a very fine line of being proficient and prepared for what we will eventually come to down the pipe. Yeah. And an exercising caution and exercising restraint. I think there's a very fine line. And it's a lot more difficult for people that are working nine to five's that are coming home to make dinner that are, you know, just paying the bills. It's a lot more difficult for them than somebody like Mark Zuckerberg. Take a break. More next. Well, I want to say was maybe last week, maybe the week before it's all blur. We did a story. We talked about how a number of schools colleges around the country are seeing a decline. Yeah,

1:20:57and they're enrollment and enrollment. Yeah. And obviously that's a huge problem for these universities and colleges, not so much for Wayne State. They enroll the record number of first year students this fall. And it's a positive sign that maybe Wayne State isn't quite approaching that enrollment cliff. Let's talk about it with Erica Matthews Jackson, the senior director of admissions at Wayne State University. Erica, it's great to talk with you this morning. It's great to be with you. How is Wayne State doing this when so many other colleges across the country can't do it? Well, I will tell you it's difficult and challenging. And I think it's because we are an access institution that also focuses on affordability. And we know that one of the biggest barriers for students and families and their decision of whether or not their student is going to attend colleges, can we afford it? And for students, it's also challenging when they count themselves out and they don't think that college is going to be a pathway for them. So we

1:21:57really focus on removing as many barriers as possible in the application process. And then we've also focused on how can we make college more affordable with some of our tuition pledge programs, like the Wayne State Guarantee, which provides free tuition for students who are eligible for the Michigan Achievement Scholarship. And we also have the Heart of Detroit pledge because we're committed to making college accessible for the students that we serve in our own community. And so we've had the Heart of Detroit pledge since 2019. And that provides free tuition for any high school student in Detroit who either lives in Detroit or attends a Detroit high school. So I would say that those two things together are what has helped us stay in the mix and make sure that Wayne State is an option for students and families and Michigan. You know, Erica, test optional admissions can also expand access. But how does Wayne State make sure that it's still identifying students who are academically prepared?

1:22:58That is a great question. And one of the things I love about Wayne State is that we are a research institution. So a lot of the decisions that we make are data informed decisions. And one of the things that we decided before we even went test optional was taking a look at the students who've been admitted to Wayne State. And are they continuing on? Are they able to graduate and leave Wayne State with a degree? And so we worked closely with our colleagues in student success. And we were able to identify what is the profile of a student, the academic profile of a student who's able to be successful here. And one of the things that we found is students with a cumulative 3.0 GPA in high school are doing well. They're graduating. They're continuing on from year one to year two. And so when we started our test optional policies, one of the reasons we did that was because of the pandemic and the test wasn't available. But what we realized even after we became test optional is our test optional students. We're doing this as well as our students who were applying with test scores. So we focused on how our students doing in high schools,

1:24:04looking at the four years of high school to determine whether or not they're going to be academically prepared for college. And so in addition to being test optional, we're also part of the Michigan Assured Admissions Pat, which is 11 of the 15 public schools in Michigan. Let high school students in Michigan know that as long as you have a cumulative 3.0 GPA in high school, you're admissible to all of these institutions, including Wayne State, all you need to do is submit your application and your transcript. So we've removed a lot of the mystery about MI even going to be admissible the college. But we've done that again based on making sure that we're researching and making sure that our institution is prepared to help them succeed. So getting them in the door is step one. You're up 5% from last year. That's huge news. But then how do you retain them? How do you keep them so that they actually end up with the diploma that says Wayne State on it? Absolutely. So again, one of the things that we've done is really focused on student success as well as that report transition to college. So our student success team now has a dedicated office, college transition

1:25:09initiatives. So they really focus on from the moment a student comes on campus for orientation. They have a series of programs throughout the summer to continue to help students get that sense of belonging. That's one of the things that we've determined is one of the best factors in figuring out whether students are going to be successful in college. Do they have a connection? Do they have a sense of belonging? Because that's as important to making sure that they're going to be able to focus and do well academically. So Wayne State has invested in student support services. And we have an academic success center. We have this college transition team that does things in the summer like pizza with professionals where they can come in and network with faculty and staff. And then that they do programs on like financial literacy. Make sure that once they get to college and mom and dad might not be there that they're making financially sound decisions. You know how to budget and they understand what it means for them to invest in themselves and college so that they

1:26:10can go on and have the careers that they want. So a lot of the work has been done over a long period of time. I'm talking like the last 10 years or more. And that's why we are doing as well as we are. And that's why our college graduation rates are have improved. That's why our your one to year two retention rates have improved. And that's why we're in a track of institution for students and families because parents want to know when I send my students to college that there's going to be a return on that investment. They're going to be able to get a job and they're going to be able to you know be productive members of their society. Really interesting stuff. Obviously great news for Wayne State. Keep it up. And we'll look for that 5% bump again next year. Well thank you for your belief. It's job security. Ericka. That's what it is. We appreciate your Ericka Matthews Jackson. That's right. We'll talk to you very soon. Thank you. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, it is good news. And you know, nationally we are

1:27:11expected to see, you know, if you are traditional college A student. So I got a figure two that not just, you know, Wayne State, but other colleges will, you know, start really increasing that recruit recruitment of maybe some transfer students or, you know, a lot of working adults. I'm going to go back and finish something that they didn't finish. You know, those are their game as well. They're fair game. Sure. How about this? A new South Korean study is raising questions about mental health effects associated with prescription weight loss medications, GLP ones. Okay. Particularly among people who regain weight after treatment, researchers analyzed data from nearly 28,000 adults and found that people who reported using these prescription GLP ones were more likely to report depression. They were more likely to seek mental health counseling. They were experiencing suicidal thoughts and tendencies as opposed to non users of GLP ones. So the study of weight loss drug users, 9 1.9% times more likely to report depression twice as likely to seek mental health

1:28:17counseling, 2.7 times more likely to report suicidal thoughts. Now, the researchers on this study say you can't come to a sweeping conclusion of this. It was observational. They found correlations, but it doesn't prove that the medication causes depression or suicidal tendencies. Gotcha. But it is an interesting angle because some people that are dealing with excess weight that they don't want on. They go on the GLP ones. They find some success on it. And then if they stop and they regain the weight, all of a sudden, it's like, man, I got to go through this. All this that I just lost, I just went away. So yeah, I could see people getting depressed about that. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. All right. Coming up next. It's a Wednesday. It's time for name that tune. We'll do that next on J.R. Morning. It's Michigan and it's back to school, but temperatures will still get up there. So don't let high temperatures break your budget. I don't know. It consumers energy to help make the most of this season and your budget with tips and ways to save making small changes like shifting some energy

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