Julie Yang Silver Meets World

0:00This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human You ever show up late to the game and your friends already saved your seat, your drink, even a plate? That's looking out. That's having your back. And that's exactly what AT&T does with the AT&T Guarante. They know that staying connected matters, so they actually guarantee a network that comes through when it counts. AT&T has connectivity you can depend on, or they'll proactively make it right, just like that friend who takes care of things before you even ask. AT&T connecting changes everything, terms and condition apply. Visit AT&T.com slash Guarante for details. Ever been at the pharmacy counter in your mind goes blank when the pharmacist asks any questions? That's why you need to listen to Beyond the Script from CVS Pharmacy and I Heart Media. Hosted by Dr. Jake Goodman, each episode features real conversations with CVS Pharmacists. The health experts you see most, breaking down the questions you wish you'd asked. From which meds may not mix well to what vaccines you need before a big trip, they'll bust myths, decode trends and share practical advice you can actually use.

1:03Listen to Beyond the Script on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. There's a difference between liking a house and actually getting it. Redfin is built to make up that difference and close the gap between finding and owning the home for you. Redfin agents close twice as many deals as other agents. So when you find a home you love, you're not a step behind when it's time to make an offer. That means less watching great homes disappear and more, focus on the one you'll call home. Redfin helps turn saved listings into real addresses. Get started at redfin.com, own the dream. Running a business is hard enough. Don't make it harder with a dozen apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, another for inventory, a separate one for accounting, that software overload. Odo is the all-in-one platform that replaces them all. CRM, accounting, inventory, e-commerce, HR, fully integrated, easy to use and built to grow with your business. Thousands have already made the switch. Why not you? Try Odo for free at odo.com. That's odo.com.

2:18So I recently met an old friend who started dating this guy and it was one of those experiences that you don't have as you get older where you just like immediately bond with somebody you're like, oh, we're going to be friends. And so he and I just started. He's a cinematographer and a director and has worked in the industry forever. I started as a camera operator. Anyway, we were just like just having that. We had two days at a convention and we were having so much fun talking. And at one point he goes, you know, I worked with Will for Dell. And I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's telling me this or he worked on GoFish with you. He was a camera operator on GoFish, the show that you did after. He told me the funniest story. He's like, you know, he's like, there was, there was a, there was a young woman who was a, I think she was a stand in or maybe a guest star.

3:19And he's like, and there's Will. He's like, the handsome is coolest guy with the teen beat hair and everything. And he's asking me for advice. How do I talk to this girl? And he was like, it was so adorable. I was like, no, that sounds like Will. That's what he's like, I just remember being like, dude, like you're asking me. I can't help you. Like you got to just talk to her. But apparently, we're trying to like talk to some girl on set. And you, and he was like, just baffled, but he loved you. He was like, yeah, Will and I had a great time. It was so fun to hang out with him. Charles, I actually don't know his last name, but yeah. But he was the nicest guy. And like, that's good. So we're going to blow past the fact that you're out there making new friends. I mean, are you surprised? But it's just, it still hurts occasionally. I mean, when you realize that we're not enough for you. No, but you should know that because he has the opportunity to hang out with us. And we are on the road. I know. You think, well, who else would you hang out with? Guess what? The answer is almost anyone else. Anyone else is the answer for writer. Anyone else.

4:21You guys spend a lot of time with you. No, you don't. Yes, I do. We're here to tell you. No, you don't. Yeah. I don't come out with me. I'm always like after after a show. I'll be like, okay, let's go get a drink. Let's go get some food. And you guys are like, I'm going to my room. I'm ordering in and I'm going to sleep 30. Hold on. Yes. Also, that's not true. We do that when you're like, I'm going out with my friend. You don't even invite us to go along with you. You don't even invite us to go. Okay. Then I guess will and I will go to bed. Separately. Separately. Separately. Yeah. Oh, that's. Yeah. I agree. Anyway, I thought it was funny to make a new bread. That is cute. And then have a story that went back to 2000, Will Ferdell, that I was like, that's exactly my friend Will. Like, you know him well. I can't. I can't talk to girls. And luckily, now I don't have to. Let's talk to Charles. You don't have to. You just have to talk to Susan. Which is great. Do you find it easy to talk to Susan? Most of the time.

5:21A lot of times. He has to call me and be like, how do I talk to her? How do I talk to her? Talk to my wife. Come on, man. You got this. I wanted to go on a date with me. I'm still convinced. I just like to let her know that, you know, I try to keep her down as much as possible because if she finds out that she can do better than me, which she can, I'm screwed. Right. She's out. Yeah. I just try to make her feel like, you know, this is the best you can do knowing full well that she could throw a stone and hit somebody better than me. So, yeah. Hopefully. She didn't marry you, though. So that's a good sign. That's true. That's true. Yeah. It's usually a good sign that it can work out. So that's good. Welcome to Fodd meets world. I'm Danielle Fischel. I'm right or strong. And I just don't know how to talk to her. So if I, I mean, do I just go? I'm willing. When I think about brain health, I think about staying sharp. Remembering why I walked into a room, finishing a sentence without buffering midthought. And nowadays, that can feel unpossible. Listen, we juggle a lot. Work, family, stress, and the least my brain can do is stay on my team.

6:24For me, it's clarity under pressure. I want focus. I want steady energy. I don't want that 3 p.m. feeling of slowly fading away. And here's the thing. Your brain doesn't operate in isolation. It reflects what's happening across your whole body. Inflammation, blood sugar regulation, nutrient levels, sleep quality, vascular health, all of it plays a role in how you think and feel. So if you're not measuring those systems, you're guessing. That's why I love function. You get access to 160 plus lab tests each year through function. So after your blood draw and lab visit, you can see your results on the function platform. It gives you a more comprehensive view of what's happening beneath the surface. Across heart health, inflammation, stress, hormones, toxins, and more. Not guesses, data. And it's for all adults, 18 and up, all genders, wherever you are in your health journey, whether you're optimizing, resetting, or just curious. I've used it. Seeing my own results change how I think about sleep and stress. It's testing, not guessing. And honestly, I think you should use it too.

7:24Start by understanding what's happening beneath the surface. Own your health for $365 a year. That's a dollar a day. Learn more and join function using our link. Visit www.functionhealth.com slash meetsworld or use the gift code meetsworld25 for a $25 credit toward your membership. Hi, this is Ryder Strong and Will Ferdell from PodMeetsworld. When I think of important phone calls, I think about one from 30 years ago that changed my life forever. I remember getting word that I was cast on a new Friday night sitcom called BoyMeetsworld and a phone call from the agent and the rest is history. Well, did you know that 2026 will mark the 150th anniversary of the first ever phone call? It took place on March 10th, 1876. And from the call that sparked it all from the first long distance phone lines. To the first lines across America and the first lines across the Atlantic. To the first round the world call, the first commercial cell service and the first 911 system. AT&T has been connecting people for 150 years in so many different ways.

8:27Can you imagine all the important phone calls that have taken place over 150 years? How many lives were saved? How many people asked if your refrigerator is running? You hang up first. No, you hang up first. Okay, let's just hang up at the same time. It's been 150 years of connecting an absolutely mind-blowing stat. And one of the reasons it's come this far is AT&T. Thanks AT&T and happy birthday phone calls. Connecting changes everything. AT&T. Craving bold, authentic taste without kitchen chaos. True nature meets Hawaiian Kahlua pork delivers. Slow roasted tenderness with smoky tropical notes. Pre-cooked perfection. 30 years applying the finest restaurants. Chances are you've already had their pork. Heat in two minutes. Shred for plates or bowls. Complaints turn to second helping and laughter. Real meat, real flavor. Go to truenaturemeats.com. Code free meat for 20% off. Plus free New York strip. Texas smoked brisket and Mediterranean chicken with code free meat at truenaturemeats.com. Ever been at the pharmacy counter and the pharmacist asks,

9:27Do you have any questions? And suddenly your mind goes blank. That's exactly why you need to listen to Beyond the Script from CVS Pharmacy and I Heart Media. Hosted by Dr. Jake Goodman, this podcast brings you real conversations with CVS Pharmacists. The health experts you see most. Answering the questions you wish you'd asked. Like, which medications might not mix well? What vaccine should you consider before a big trip? And even those questions you were too embarrassed to say out loud. Each episode busts myths, decodes health trends, and gives you practical trustworthy advice straight from the people behind the counter. No white coats, no lectures, just real talk, real answers, and maybe a few laughs. Listen to Beyond the Script on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This past month, a TikTok video from creator Nicole Story Dent went viral where she was walking through her local department store and noticed something very familiar.

10:28The mannequins displayed on the floor were wearing outfits that looked almost exactly like clothing seen on Boy Meets World. Sean, Corey, Mr. Fini, even Mincus. She matched the looks with screenshots from the show and it was mind blowing. Now is then, then is now. We are all connected. That's right, 30 years later, time is a flat circle, and now it appears our classic 90s wardrobe is again in style and being marketed to young kids and adults prepping for spring. How does that happen? How do short sleeve shirts on top of long sleeve shirts and sweater vests with military style, fuzzy colored jackets and wool, professor blazers find themselves available in 2026, decades later? That's the work of a good costumer. A few seasons back, we talked to the great Sarah Moskowitz who was a driving force and getting us out of those XXL shirts and into clothes that actually fit. But from seasons three through seven, there was another name we remembered fondly.

11:33And that is this week's guest, young enough to be a part of our crew, she came from the world of Martin Lawrence working on his stylistically forward sitcom and movies and then joined us and stayed through the finale. And since those days, her resume is chock full of projects cooler than Boy Meets World. We've got vampire diaries breaking bad, oceans 11, American horror story, and recently a show that earned her an Emmy nomination, Star Wars The Mandalorian. How she was unable to get us cast to Stormtroopers, we will never know. And so now we are excited to welcome a crew favorite to Pod Meets World. The reason our costumes are now, years later, hip with the kids, it's Julie Yang Silver. Julie, are you there? Yes, hold on. Oh my God, it's so good to see you. Oh my God. Thank you so much for being here. You have not changed a single day.

12:35Everybody looks the same. Oh my God. Look at you guys. Hi, we're so close now. Oh, it's been like 25 years? Yeah, I don't think I've seen you since the show ended, right? No. So 26 years, 99 really mean the show won off in 2000. Oh my God. Oh my God. We are so happy to see you. And I want you to know, like 95% of our memories of you involved the idea that you were very, very cool. So will you please set the record straight? Were you very cool? I was very cool. I was so close to your age. I thought you guys were amazing. And there's a whole story behind it.

13:36I mean, I look back now and I'm like, holy crap. I was 26. Yeah. Which is so weird because it felt like I was so much older. Right. And you guys really weren't, I mean, I wasn't that much older than you. So you were 26 when you started or when you finished? No, I think I was, I was 26 when I started because I think I was, yeah. You started in like 96, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Okay. I mean, I was 16. Yeah, not that much older. No, so I was 16 then and will would have been like, what, 2020? 2021. Yeah. Wow. Oh my God. So funny. I, there was one of the first things I said when we were talking about having you on and, and Jensen was asking about, you know, things that we remember. And I said, more than any other crew member, it felt like you were just our age. Right. Yeah. 100%.

14:36I mean, Julie, you must have been the youngest crew member of that, right? I was. I don't know if you guys recall, but I went and got my U.S. citizenship. And I went and got, it was on a Friday night. We were taping and I went and got sworn in. And then I came back to the show and we were just started. And I was like, yeah, I'm legit. And I had like my little thing. They put me on camera. And I was like, this is so weird. Oh my God. That's right. So it would have been a Thursday night because we taped on Thursday. That's right. It would have been a Thursday night. But I just remember it was the best time with you guys. Yeah. It really was so much fun. Another thing I have to talk to you about because again, I've been so excited to have you on. And we've talked so much on our podcast, so much about Will and I smoking.

15:36I think I'm now at the ripe old age of 44. I think I'm old enough to admit to my mother that the very first cigarette I ever had was when I stole from Julie. Correcting the youth. She had a pack of smokes like in her bag. And I was like, oh, was it Marlboro Reds? No, there were lights. Lights were Marlboro Reds. Yeah. So I remember going out with Will. I think it would be like outside. I'd be like, all right. Tell us how you're like. Yeah. And you were like away from your bag. And I think you knew. I think you kind of knew I was stealing cigarettes from you. And you were just like, I'm not going to pay any attention to this. My first cigarette I ever had was when I stole out of your bag. And then smoked alone like a weirdo.

16:38Who has the first cigarette? Like when they steal and then smokes alone like a total weirdo. But I did just, I have, I have thought of you many a times over the years. When you wake up in the morning coughing. Right. I'm offending. Julie. Julie. Marlboro. It was so weird because I saw you had changed your last name. And so I sent you, you know, an instant message. I think it was like two or three years ago. And then when this whole thing came up, I saw you responded. You were like, oh, my God. I never saw this. So funny on Instagram. I don't remember. Okay. Well, I just wrote to you on Facebook. Yeah. Mine was on Facebook. Yeah. Because when when we, when we talked about wanting to have you on, I said, let me see if I can find her on Facebook. And then I found you on Facebook and saw your message. And was like, hey, just seeing this, which was the truth.

17:40Danielle's got a history of maybe not seeing messages so much on Facebook. I know. We are so happy to have you here. I have to know. I want to jump into how, what is your costuming origin story? What did, how did you get the job on Boy Meets World? Was Boy Meets World your first job? How did you start at such a young age? Okay. So I did go to a fashion school for like a year. I couldn't afford it. And I ended up just, I was going to merchandise marketing. And I was at FIDM. Couldn't afford my second year. So then I was like, okay, well, I'm just going to keep working in the industry. Cut to a couple of years later. I was dating the sky who was a stage manager. And the company I worked for went under. And so he was like, hey, do me a favor. Can you bring me this, you know, this thing that I left at my house. And I was like, yeah, sure, no problem. So I go and I drop it off.

18:40And he introduced, it was back in the, oh my gosh, the power ranger error, the entertainment. So it was a show called Tattoo Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills. Awesome show. Awesome show. Awesome show. I ended up meeting the designer there and Eddie Castro, who was phenomenal. And him and I just kind of hit it on. And he was super great. And he was like, oh, will you come help me on something? And I was like, yeah, sure. And he's like, I'll pay you $100. And at that time, I wasn't working. I was actually helping out on my parents' restaurant. And so I was like, sure, come to find out. It was like 16 hours. Oh, for $100. For like 100 bucks, but I had the best time. I, and it was like a commercial. So there was like food galore catering. I was like sucked in by the food.

19:42And I thought, oh, that's like fun. Craft service got you. Oh, yeah. That's how they get you. That's how they get you. That's how they get you. Totally did. So it went really quick. I was really lucky. Got started with him. And within about a year, I got into the union. Amazing. And I was working for an actor that I decided not to go back to work with him. And my friend Eddie calls me up. And he was like, hey, they're looking for, you know, like a supervisor slash designer on this kid show called Boyneets World. I'm like, you've got to be like, I haven't done this for very long. I've like supervise. I've been doing this for maybe two years. And he was like, no, I think you should go do it. So we did a whole board and everything. And I was so nervous. So you had to kind of audition ideas of, oh, that's so cool. Oh, yeah. I had to kind of, you know, and so I came in and met with Michael Jacobs.

20:44Yeah. And I was completely nervous. And I think there's no way, you know, I mean, I remember at that time, I even had, I had cut my hair short because I looked so young and nobody was taking me seriously. And so I went in and Michael was like, yeah, okay. And he had, you know, very strong ideas about, oh, what he wanted you guys to be in. Yeah. And everything. So I was like, okay, it's, you know, I get to go shop, you know, I think I can do this. And lo and behold, you know, I did. And he hired me and I was like, why in the world did he hire me? Like I had hardly anything on my resume, let alone even design. You know, I don't even, I don't have that creative, creative, like, because most designers are like kind of crazy. But the irony, but the irony is that you're trying to look older by cutting your hair. But the reality, but you being younger was probably an asset.

21:46It was. It was. And I think like, I think like a year into it, I remember asking Michael, I was like, why did you hire me? It was like, well, I figured you know, if I didn't like what you did, I just fired you. Yeah. That's about right. That's all right. Yeah. Before we get to into our time on Boy Meets World, I got very into the look of the Beverly Hills alien fighters when I was doing some research on you. And Will and writer, I would like for you to take a look at some of these. And Julie, could you please tell us the inside story on some of these costumes? Let's go to the picture. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yes. Yes. These are the tattooed teenagers from Beverly Hills. Oh my god. Oh my gosh. Yes. Okay. So I was helping. I actually didn't design that. That was from Eddie was designing it. Wow. Okay. And magical. Yeah. That was like back in the days of like the power ranges.

22:47Yeah. Anything that was like fitted that showed off everything. It was kind of crazy. So for our dear listeners who maybe don't see this right away, it is latex. Yes. Skin type latex. Yeah. Skin type latex with arm muscles, a glistening, but the like body oil glow is also all over the latex. Yeah. So it's just like, and then there's masks. Are they also latex masks? They were kind of latex masks, but that stuff gets really like to eat and hot. Yeah. So they had to make it so it was more like something they can just pull over and we put the late x over that to help fit it. Yeah. I mean, that was those days it was like you suffered, you sucked it up and you just did it. Yeah. Right. Now, were any of these looks on your vision board for boys? No.

23:47No. No. No. Because I can see Sean. Yeah. I can see. Matt Lawrence could have pulled off some latex. He could have been great. I think I can see that. I would kid for Quarry, you know. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember what you pitched? Do you remember what your board looked like? Oh my gosh. It was very he wanted. I mean, it was back in the whole, you know, TGIF. Right. So it was all about wholesome, very down to earth. I mean, you guys were like the next like happy days. Right. Yeah. Really normal, you know, Midwest like everybody wanted to be you. Hmm. So that was what the idea of Disney was doing. Yeah. Right. So you get Boy Meets World. Michael hires you because worst case scenario. He's going to fire you. Yeah. I kept thinking for like, I want to say the first three months. I was like, he's going to fire me. Right. I'm not going to hold this job. Yeah. I'm not the rest of the time. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

24:47That's unbelievable. When did you then start working with the red hot Martin Lawrence? That was when I first, it was same thing with Eddie. He called me up and he was like, Hey, I'm doing this little showtime thing. Come do it with me. And I was like, Oh, okay. And so I went and we were like out in the desert and stuff like that. So then that finished. And then he was like, Oh, I'm doing this other, you know, show. And that show was the one that turned union. And I got in the union. But it was literally just Eddie, me. And I think I hired, I hired my friend who I ended up firing. Go up one day. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. It was like back in the days, like you did everything. I mean, I think at one point, I even, we had a pool scene. And I, the wind was blowing and the actress was on a raft.

25:50And I actually got in the water with a straw to hold her in place. Because I was the smallest one. And I was in it underneath. Yeah, it was my gosh. It was a fun, it was a fun show. I think I even have a little cameo in it. Yes. No, it was that it was, it was really funny. I had my headset on and they were like, you're going to be one of the go-go dancers at the club. So they harnessed me up high. And I'm on my walkie. And I'm like telling people like, no, no, no, no. Get his outfit off. Get his hat off. So there's like a quick shot. I haven't seen it. I think I decided to blur that away. I was like 24 years old. We blur a lot of stuff too, Julie. We blur a lot of stuff. Sure. So you did all of that before you joined Boy Meets World.

26:52Yes. And then from there, I went to work on his TV show. Right. And then I did nothing to lose with him and Tim Robbins, who I love. Tim was fabulous. Oh, sorry. I think one of the kind of underrated films of the 90s. I'm not joking. Nothing to lose is so great. So Martin Lawrence, he plays a car jacker who Tim Robbins comes home and he finds he sees his wife Kelly Preston having an affair. And he just walks out of the house and he drives. And he gets car jacked by Martin Lawrence. And he looks at him and he just goes, man, did you pick the wrong guy on the wrong day? And just takes off with the car jacker in the car. And it's the adventure that they then have together. And it is just. So it's, um, uh, Odakirk. It's, uh, yeah. No, not, not Bob Steve. Steve Odakirk. Yeah. Julie, I hate to do this. I am on the road touring with the dancing with the stars to her. So I'm going to hop off because I have the bus is waiting for me downstairs to head to the venue.

27:52Um, the guys are going to finish the interview with you. We need to catch up. Even if we can't see each other face to face for a while, we need to catch up. I'd love to talk to you over the phone. So I'm so mad that I have to miss the rest of this interview. She has to go about right now. And I are going to do a much for interview. So don't worry about it. I love you guys. Bye. All right. I love you guys. Bye. Bye.

29:10Like which medications might not mix well? What vaccine should you consider before a big trip? And even those questions, you were too embarrassed to say out loud. Each episode busts myths, decodes health trends, and gives you practical trustworthy advice straight from the people behind the counter. No white coats, no lectures, just real talk, real answers, and maybe a few laughs. Listen to Beyond the Script on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're like me and have kids between the ages of two and eight, you know that not all apps are created equal. My four and six year old will just explore like little screen time Magellan's, clicking any and every button until I've received ten notices of apps and in-game coins they're trying to buy. In reality, I just want something that still gets them excited, but also has them using their brains. And that is why I love Lingo Kids. It's an absolute blast and perfect to keep them engaged in thinking. It's a world of interactive games, music they'll want to sing along to, and stories that spark their imagination.

30:13It's high energy, vibrant, and it keeps them actively playing rather than just zoning out and ignoring my pleas to come to dinner. Whether it's a rainy afternoon or a weekend morning, it's the fun they're looking for and the quality you want. Lingo Kids, everything kids love. See why millions of families love it. Download the Lingo Kids app on your phone or tablet now for free. Let's talk about modern home shopping. It's sort of becoming like a fun side hobby, right? Scrolling listings at night, dreaming about kitchens, you haven't seen, or backyards, you haven't stepped foot in, all from the comfort of, well, literally anywhere. Redfin knows a lot of people like you want to own, but are stuck in this browsing mode loop. That's where Redfin flips the script. With listings that update within minutes and tours, you can book right from the Redfin app, you can see your dream home the moment it appears. Now, liking a listing is easy, but actually landing it, that's where Redfin comes in. Redfin has over 2,200 agents with local expertise, and Redfin agents close twice as many deals as other agents.

31:18That means they help you win, not just window shop. Redfin is built to help you go from just looking to, wait, this could actually be home. So become the newest neighbor on the block. Visit redfin.com to start finding and start owning. That's redfin.com. I want to keep talking about Martin because at the time, this show was like a cultural phenomenon. The Martin Lauren show. And one of the reasons, I think, was because of the look of the show. Even the opening title sequence, there's kind of pastel looks, and there was a vibe to Martin. And how much of that did you contribute to when it came to the look of the characters? Honestly, I personally did not, but my job was just to take care of him. I worked with him on a thin line between love and hate. That's the show that ended up going union.

32:22I mean, the day we turned union, I think the gangs, we were shooting in a very bad area. And there was a truth call between, I think, the crypts and the blood for us to be able to film there. And then we had a bunch of delays and health issues that Martin went through. And they, the crypts and blood got really kind of pissed. And basically said they gave us like, I think like a timeframe. And the day that we striked to turn union are the neighbors all came out. And they were like, you guys need to get out before sundown because they're going to start taking pot shots at you. I mean, literally the producers came by, I'm, we're like grabbing the stuff. And the producers like yelling at me, get in your car and leave. And I was like, but there's still some clothes, I got to get the dressing, the set dressing. I was like, get in your car and leave now.

33:24And yeah, it was, we didn't realize that, because we had this huge cast, like Bobby Brown and, you know, obviously Martin. And it was a, it was a fabulous show. But we had several delays and they did not want us there. They did not want us in that neighborhood and they wanted us out. So then after that, that's when I went to go work on Martin. And I basically just took care of him. I made sure that, you know, everything that he needed. I don't know about you guys, but I mean, actors have, they do have a lot of say in the colors and. Right. You know, what fits. I mean, obviously it's a collaborated effort. But you guys do have quite a bit of influence. Well, it's funny because I don't think we thought we did back on Boy Beats World. Like I feel like we, like Will and I definitely did not have any taste or opinions.

34:24So was that a good thing for you? Or was, did you do, like, do you remember like dressing us and just telling us what to wear? What was your relationship? I remember dressing you guys and telling you guys what to wear. I also remember at different parts, I was like, is there something different? Like, how do you feel about this character? Right. And Will would just be like, eh? It's a misletter. Right. You know, that's pretty much it. And then for you, it was more of like, oh, another t-shirt. Okay, with another thing. Right. You know, we went through the little more eclectic, trying to make it a little more, you know, full. And, yeah, and Will was just like sweaters and regular button-down shirts. And, you know, so it was, we could not go too far out. I mean, we were really dictated a lot by that wholesome, yeah. Right.

35:24Right. So was it creatively satisfying at all? Or was it just sort of like a fun job, you know, in terms of being able to, the sad and the dynamics? It was a fun job. Yeah. There were times that, um, do you guys remember what was that episode that we did with like World War II? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that was a lot of fun. Yeah. Right. Yeah. We did have a couple kind of out of, when you were there, a couple out of the box ones. We did the black and white one. Yeah. We did the 50, were you there for the 50s one? Or did you came, you came after the 50s one? I came after the 50s one. And you, you did the World War II. So you did the 40s and then, yeah, okay, it was, we did. And especially for my character, there was a lot of times where they were put me in some pretty weird, like we just watched the honeymoon episode where I'm a coconut at one point. And so that was, that must have been an interesting, especially by season six and seven to get a script. Oh, Will's a tree. Will's a couch.

36:24Well, it was kind of like, if they were going to make anybody anything, it was going to be well. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I know. I know. And it's also a very, you know, within like what, that five years, four years, it, it was hard to keep going. I mean, you guys were growing up. Right. You know, started to actually really find your own identity and what you liked. And, um, you know, and, but we still had to keep your character the same. But you guys had all grown out of that. Right. Right. So do you remember watching us go through awful adolescence and awkward faces? And I mean, because I, it's so funny, because in my mind, I thought of you as somewhat of a contemporary. Yeah. But I'm so, I mean, here I was like 17 talking to you like, I mean, do you, do you, do you remember? What do you remember about us personally? Like having to listen to our dumb love life problems or what, what was it like? No. I remember Will when you were dating Jennifer.

37:24Yeah. And we went through that. Oh gosh. And I remember when Matthew came in and you guys put to that singing. Yeah. The singing that's the dancing in front of the audience. Yeah. Uh-huh. And then, um, you know, and I remember for a writer, like when Trina came along, she was so much older and having that kind of dynamic. And it was just like, wow, he's, you know, and you did it beautifully. Right. Um, I think the most that I remember was more for, uh, Danielle. Yeah. Because she was, you know, and I related more to her just because she was a female. Right. And a young teenager growing up and society and, oh my gosh, there were so many, um, discussions. Uh, heated discussions about her wardrobe or. Yes. Yeah. And that Karen, the producer Karen, uh, yeah, she would, yeah, she was a huge Danielle advocate and her and she would back me up.

38:27And we would go against Michael and he would just be like, whoa, no, I don't like, as like, uh, you're never going to open your mouth and ever say something like that again. We will take care of it. Right. Um, you know, there's this whole like image. Right. And how people looked and on camera, it does add weight, you know, when you're of short stature. And definitely things change. And so that part, we had a tiptoe. Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because one of the things Danielle talked about and I'm sure she would have brought it up if she was not doing awesome things with amazing people around the world instead of us. Um, we don't hold the grudge. Uh, if, um, you know, obviously I put on a bunch of weight towards the end. Danielle put on a little bit of weight towards the end, but of course it was all about how she put on so much weight. And one of the things she talked about was during the wedding episode specifically she remembers that she was allowed to quote unquote help pick the dress.

39:28But none of them were allowed to be sleeveless. Yeah. And she thinks that one of the reasons that that was is because certain powers that be thought that she looked too heavy to show her arms bear. Um, is that in fact what happened? Yes. It is. So you were just constantly having conversations about. I was, yes, it was constant conversation. And the thing was, Danielle was not heavy. Oh, no, we're looking at it going. Oh my God. That's what I was trying to explain to them. I was like, she is still a size two. Like I don't know what you guys are talking about. But because of her stature and they were so used to seeing because she bloomed overnight. I think by the time when I started, she had grown outwards. And she wasn't 11 anymore. That happens. Yeah. Exactly. But that was the thing though, was that, you know, Danielle is not very tall. No. So if you are bustier and you're not very tall, you're going to look larger.

40:33Right. And, but she wasn't like you guys saw her every single day. She was not large at all. Well, that's the thing we talked about. Is she put on probably, she said like maybe eight pounds, nine pounds. Yeah. I put on 30. Well, nobody really cared. That's what I mean. Is nobody. That was the thing though. So amazing. Yeah. That's a double standard. Was your ever talk about my weight gain and changing my clothes or they were just like they don't care. They don't care at all. Yeah. Nope. Yeah. Let him go be funny. He'll put on a bigger shirt. We're fine. Exactly. But Danielle, there were conversation after conversation about. Wow. I remember specifically. Oh, and then like trying to hide Trina's pregnancy. But you guys remember that episode? The witch one? The prom. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. So Trina is like seven months pregnant. So, you know, so we're trying to hide that and and it was the same thing for Danielle where she needed sleeves.

41:33And I was like, no, that's going to look ridiculous for prom. Like absolutely ridiculous. So we ended up, you know, we did a shawl and I remember Karen and I we really went up to bat for that one. And we, I think Karen and I mostly Karen too was just like, you will never, ever, we don't want to ever hear anybody say anything to Danielle about this. Right. Okay. I was going to ask, does she have any, was she aware of any discussions? I think she knew. Yeah. And she really tried to hide that from her in terms of because, you know, she's a teenager. Yeah. Like that's going to get in her head. And that was the thing that Karen and I were both saying was that she is a young woman. Right. And that could do so much psychological damage. Right. And this is so not worth it. Right. You know, so we were treading very, very lightly.

42:35And yeah, there were some, and I'm sure, you know, Danielle knew and, you know, because I remember there were times when she would, you know, we would do sweaters and she would be like, I look so huge in this and I was like, honey, that is an extra small. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. You know, and it's, it was just being on camera like back then, like we videotaped it. So it really did add more and with like certain camera angles and stuff, you know, it just made her look more compact. Yeah. But when you saw her in person, she was not even remotely close. No. Yeah. We just watched the honeymoon episode. And one of the things we talked about was the fact that she comes out in a negligee. Yeah. She's kind of naked under the, under the covers she doing all this. And I said, I was like, how four or five episodes from now, we do an episode about how you've put on so much weight. I mean, again, at that point, I was used to it. So, and I was a guy and I was funny. So it didn't matter. But as America's sweetheart, it was one of those things where we looked at her and was like, how, how could they look at what you look like there and be like, we got to do an episode

43:37about how you've put on weight. Like written what? How are you seeing the same thing? Oh. But that's also, I will say to your credit, that's also where being closer to our age than almost anybody else on the set that we were, I mean, that you, there were PAs and people on the set like that that were closer age, but you don't really spend a lot of time with them. And it's not as intimate a relationship as somebody who's dressing you and we're doing fittings and you're doing it and your room at the time became like our therapy place. It's a cool hangout spot. We would go and hang out with you. You and I would go smoke. I remember you mentioned love and when I broke up with love, I remember you wouldn't, you liked to help me through that. I mean, it was, that was one of those things where we just, we hung out. We all hung out. And so it was when we were putting on weight, breaking up with girlfriends, doing all that stuff. That's, we came to you. It's like the room where we hung out. That you guys are one of the main reasons why I loved doing what I did in, in all honesty, like I loved that family feel and everything.

44:38But I also tried to really make it so like I never, you know, I didn't go out and party with you guys or because I knew that you guys would be going out afterwards and I'd be like, Oh, no, I think that's super crossing the line. And then, but I was still just like, Okay, you know, whatever you guys need it, I would be there. I mean, writer, you were talking about, you know, going through that transition and everything and watching you guys grow up, like watching you guys like throw your clothes on top of the closet when you're done and we're trying to like jump up there to get your, you know, fighting and I think they finally like banged you like, please writer, just, and you would just like, okay, you would fold them and then put them on the thing. Then, then we finally got him to just at least throw it on the floor. It was, yeah, it became like this game, all of us said, and then poor Cheryl who was taking care of you guys was just like, that's right. I need, I need a stepstool because they keep throwing it on top, they keep throwing on top of their closet.

45:39Oh, my God, no, I remember specifically being like, I had to hang up my clothes. Like, I, I remember being taught like, and so by the time I was like 17, 18, I was like, okay, I'm going to hang up, but I also very specifically remember it being like a game where Ben would throw his shirts off and throw them as far as he could. Yes. Oh, my God. Just to piss you guys off, I feel like. Well, and Cheryl loved Ben and so she would have done anything and I would be like, do I need to talk to him and she'll be like, no, no, no, he's just being a boy. Yeah. No, we, there's one other word we've heard quite a bit on this podcast. And I think it's the same word writers going to say. Yep. So let's say it at the same time, writer, one, two, three, tanky. Tanky. Oh. Does this ring a bell for Morgan? Oh. Yeah. So we just watched the episode and it's where Lindsey Ridgeway, who was playing Morgan,

46:43goes on 13th date at 12 or 13th, right? And there's a whole scene where her dad, Alan Rusty freaks out about the fact that she's wearing a tanky knee. And we had Lindsey on the podcast and this was like one of her core memories from doing the show. Do you remember this at all, or I remember bits and pieces. I just remember it. Well, who's the big deal? Right. Right. It was made to be such a big deal. And Lindsey plays younger than she really is. Right. Right. So she was just like, what, you know, and my whole thing was like in any of that stuff was just to make sure you guys are comfortable in it. Right. And if you're not comfortable in it, I will go up to bat. Right, right. And I don't recall, I mean, refresh my memory. What did Lindsey say about it? She just was somewhat traumatized by having to wear something so scantily clad, you

47:44know, because it's like a weird tank top belly showing thing that I don't know if we invented the tanking or if the, you know, but it was, it was in the script. So then, you know, they're, they're, she just remembers there being a lot of discussion about, you know, how scantily clad she was going to look and how much to show how much to make. Yeah, because, you know, the story point is that she's dressed too sexy for her dad. Of course, she's still actually very much a little girl and, yeah, so she just remembers having to wear this, you know, very, very, very exposed. I think we had to shorten the top, because most tankinis, they're like one piece, not one piece, but the top is, goes all the way down to your waist and then you have the bottoms. Right. I think we had to shorten them. I mean, it was, I would say it was probably hardest for Lindsey, just because you're in front of the camera, you know, you're showing off everything. She's a teenager too. Right. You know, she's growing up. So I don't know, maybe I just blocked it all out of my mind, but the trauma of like things

48:48that I had to put you guys through. Hmm. Right. Craving bold, authentic taste without kitchen chaos, true nature meets Hawaiian Kahlua pork delivers, slow roasted tenderness with smoky tropical notes, pre-cooked perfection, food a year supplying the finest restaurants, chances are you've already had their pork, heat in two minutes, shred for plates or bowls, complaints turned to second helpings and laughter, real meat, real flavor, go to truenaturemeats.com, code free meat for 20% off plus free New York strip, Texas smoked brisket and Mediterranean chicken with code free meat at truenaturemeats.com. I've ever been at the pharmacy counter and the pharmacist asks, do you have any questions? And suddenly your mind goes blank. That's exactly why you need to listen to Beyond the Script from CVS Pharmacy and I Heart Media. Hosted by Dr. Jake Goodman, this podcast brings you real conversations with CVS pharmacists, the health experts you see most, answering the questions you wish you'd asked. Like which medications might not mix well?

49:50What vaccine should you consider before a big trip? And even those questions you were too embarrassed to say out loud. Each episode busts myths, decodes health trends and gives you practical trustworthy advice straight from the people behind the counter. No white coats, no lectures, just real talk, real answers, and maybe a few laughs. Listen to Beyond the Script on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're like me and have kids between the ages of 2 and 8, you know that not all apps are created equal. My four and six year old will just explore like little screen time magellons, clicking any and every button until I've received 10 notices of apps and in game coins they're trying to buy. In reality, I just want something that still gets them excited, but also has them using their brains. And that is why I love lingo kids. It's an absolute blast and perfect to keep them engaged in thinking. It's a world of interactive games, music they'll want to sing along to, and stories that spark their imagination.

50:51It's high energy, vibrant, and it keeps them actively playing rather than just zoning out and ignoring my pleas to come to dinner. Whether it's a rainy afternoon or a weekend morning, it's the fun they're looking for, and the quality you want. Lingo kids, everything kids love. See why millions of families love it. Download the Lingo Kids app on your phone or tablet now for free. Let's talk about modern home shopping. It's sort of becoming like a fun side hobby, right? Scrolling listings at night, dreaming about kitchens you haven't seen, or backyards you haven't stepped foot in, all from the comfort of, well, literally anywhere. Redfin knows a lot of people like you want to own, but are stuck in this browsing mode loop. That's where Redfin flips the script. With listings that update within minutes and tours you can book right from the Redfin app, you can see your dream home the moment it appears. Now, liking a listing is easy, but actually landing it, that's where Redfin comes in. Redfin has over 2,200 agents with local expertise, and Redfin agents close twice as many deals

51:55as other agents. That means they help you win, not just window shop. Redfin is built to help you go from just looking to, wait, this could actually be home. So become the newest neighbor on the block. Visit Redfin.com to start finding and start owning. That's Redfin.com. All right, so after you leave Boy Meets World, and then you downgrade to a movie called Oceans 11, with arguably the ugliest cast in the history of Hollywood. So tell us about that. You worked on Oceans 11? I did. That's a crazy scene to be a part. Oh, my, tell us about it. It was, it was so much fun. I have never, like that crew was like clockwork. Like we were doing seven hour days. No, seriously, because he knew exactly how he wanted to shoot it and operated the camera.

53:01It was just, and the entire cast, seriously, they, I think they only each got like one perk. So to do that, to do that movie, and that means like, you know, like, I mean, you get stars like George Clooney and Julie Roberts, if, you know, like Brad Pitt, they usually have like their own hair make up, their little cast, their, you know, personal assistants, trailers, all that's kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but they each only pick one thing. And I think was it, George had his hair stylist, um, wall, I think was this name really Waldo, because we were always like, where's Waldo? I think Matt, uh, Matt had brought his own chef, uh, Brad, Brad had his own makeup artist who also did his hair. I think he, she did his hair, but they were all like, I was, I was thinking like, oh, my

54:02gosh, we're going to be around a bunch of like, divas, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, no, that's great. So much fun. Don Chiddle, I love him to death, you know, but you can also end like Brad Pitt. Oh my gosh, he was hilarious. He was really funny and a total, like he is a type of guy that they're calling people on to set. So, you know, you're running with your step, he will stop, hold the door open for you and make sure you go through. Oh, that's really so nice to hear. Really nice, like really down to earth, um, we partied in Vegas a lot and, um, I remember we would come through at like, I think it was like five o'clock in the morning and I'd be walking down the Bellagio and like, we, you know, we'd be heading back to where we were staying at. And I'd see Brad at a table and like the entire place was empty except for that table. You did. And I was, yeah, and I was walking by and Brad would be like, hey, Julian, I'd be like,

55:03oh, hey, I'd walk over and we chat a little bit and then I'd leave and I'd watch everybody's face. Like, who is that? Who is that? I mean, it got to the point that we, we felt, um, like wanting to take care of them because they were like real people. Sure. But the fan base was very bizarre. Oh, I'm sure. Well, what is it like, I mean, you're going from, I forget sitcom to film, which I want to get into because I know what a difference that is. But you're going from working with Disney, which is known to maybe squeeze a quarter till the Eagle screams to oceans 11 where you're dressing literally some of the best-looking people in the history of the world. What kind of freedom did you have with that budget when it comes to the wardrobe compared to what you had on Boy Meets World? Well, for that, I want to say, because I worked really close with the supervisor and she was the one who kind of was like, you need to really start supervising it.

56:04I was like, oh, no, I love being on set. I like working with the actually like, no, you need to start supervising. And so I would stay there with her at night doing receipts and most of the paperwork stuff. Right. So I got to see like the budget wise, it is insane. I couldn't even imagine everything on that show because Jeffrey Kerlin was a designer and he knew his down to the tee. Like I remember like running down the aisles like during the Vegas scenes and he literally would be like, I'm going to change that person's necklace. That person needs earrings. Yeah, there are a few designers that do that and he is one of them. But for him, it's the entire look. He made every single thing. Like every outfit, every shirt, Andy Garcia, everything, tie, his shirt, his suit, like everything was made down to his shoes. We made him shoes. He is. It's so timelessly cool. Like when you, I love that movie and I still watch it because I teach now and I use

57:09it in a screenwriting class and it's still, everybody still looks so stylish. Like it's not dated at all. You know, it has this like everyone is just so effortlessly styled and cool. It's amazing. It's an amazing. Everyone on that. I mean, so to Berg, if you ever get a chance to work with him, it is amazing to watch. He knows exactly. He doesn't waste any time. He knows exactly what he wants, how he wants to shot and it's just done. Like we never waited on the actors. They all just came. They all did their stuff. Like nobody was joking around. We were doing seven, eight hour days. Yeah. That's crazy to hear. Wow. Yeah. Now, did you, what was, how big a shift is it going from four camera sitcom to a film of that size? I mean, was this, it's two different worlds, right? Two different, yeah, completely different worlds. Is there one you prefer? It's so weird though because I felt like after the four camera, it seemed such a piece

58:13of cake compared to everything else. Now, the stuff that we did for, for features, it was, it was hard, but you had a longer time. You had time to prep it. You had time to make it, you know, and you had time to dress it. Whereas on video or when we're doing four camera, it was very quick turnaround. Right. I mean, we were shopping, putting stuff on you within like a, you know, a couple of days and then you guys were on camera. Right. And you were having to get approval. We wouldn't even know who the guest cast was until like the day before sometimes. Yeah. We would get them like maybe the day before or something like that. It's kind of like how they pattern the episodics. Episodics are the hardest things I've ever done. Wow. Because you're prepping a show, wrapping a show, and shooting a show all within 10 days. Right. And at the same time. And so this is when you're working on, you weren't, went on to nip talk. Yeah.

59:13Vampire diaries and then some breaking bad breaking bad. We've got so many different things. It's like some of the coolest shows in the history. Yeah. I have been very, very fortunate. The people that I have been introduced to and have remained really good friends when I started on nip tech. So Lou Irick and who is the costume designer. She, she's just amazing. She does all of Ryan Murphy stuff, all the American horrors and, and, and I adored her. And she had this work ethic, but not only that though, she was so incredibly creative. Like the things that she would come up with, like she knew, but Ryan Murphy, the creator, he was like that. Like he is the type of man that would call Lou up and say, so I was walking down on fourth, you know, fifth avenue and front of, oh gosh, what showroom was it? And he's like, and I saw this dress and I knew Kimber needed to have this dress.

1:00:16Wow. So of course we contacted the showroom and everything and found out. And it was like, like a $5,000 dress. There was nothing written in a script, but he was like, no, she is going to wear that at some point. So, you know, it's down to the tee that man is so incredibly creative and artistic, like he knew, like down to the lampshade. Right. Exactly how he wants it. And, you know, and Lou has a huge, like pedigree behind her too in terms of the shows that she's been on and, you know, and it's the details. Like she's very into like the little details, like just the belt could completely change an outfit. And she's one of, I've been fortunate enough, all that a lot of the costume designers I've worked with, she was so incredibly hardworking. Like I couldn't leave without her leaving. So I would just stay there and I would just keep doing paperwork and we'd be there for

1:01:18like 15 hours and she'd be like, you need to go home. I was like, I can't leave until you leave. Right. But we both loved what we did. And that was like one of the things that I miss so much that I don't get to do as much. But I love those 15-hour days. I love those 16-hour days. Crazy. Okay. So you've got Breaking Bad. You've got Vampire Diars. You've got show after show after show that are just the coolest things in the world. But I want to get into my world, the world of the nerd. So what is it like working on the Mandalorian? Please tell me Mandalorian stories. I worked with Shana on Angel and she had also done Firefly, which was like, Grachio. Grachio. Yeah. And then I had just met her and so she brought me onto Angel and when I left Angel to

1:02:20go do a nip tag and we kept in touch and everything. And I helped her out here and there and when she called me, I was like, are you sure? I don't, I'm not, I'm not. I think I was like one of the only person that hadn't seen Star Wars. Wait, what? What? No, no, I have. I have. I have. Especially when I went. When you were offered a job on a Star Wars TV show, the Star Wars TV show, you had not seen a single Star Wars. I know, I have seen I think like Empire Stripes Back and just started with the second one. Oh, my God. Oh, Julie. I just remembered like I was my, my cousins were going to go watch it and my other cousin and I were like, no, we're going to stay home and play dolls. So they all went and you know, I've seen it like bits and pieces on TV and I've never watched it for the beginning to end. And I think like five years ago, I did amazing, amazing. It's got to be a totally different type of costuming, right?

1:03:23I mean, it's, it's so, I mean, there's appliances and there's helmets and guns, which has got to be a whole different thing. I mean, is that just a whole different world when you get into kind of the fantasy sci-fi genre? Absolutely. Everything. I mean, I've been in situations where, you know, everything's made in house, you know, or everything's like sent out and they're all made. You know, clothing-wise and everything. I've never been in a situation where we actually had our entire costume department like with specialty people making armor and you had the other special, and then you had like, you know, a specialized person who does all the aging and dying down to the tea. Yes. Then you had your painters and just even people on set, just the rotating, right? I think at one point, it was, I think, just in that warehouse alone, we probably had about 40 just people in there that I'm constantly just going, okay, what is going on, you

1:04:27know, and being thrown into that world where they had already done the first Mandalorian and they had, you know, done Boba Fatt, they had, you know, so they were, the crew was amazing. They, and they were all nerds, they, everything. And so you must get to the point, because like, I imagine, you know, when you're working on something like, well, you know, oceans 11, you're dealing with the real world, right? So you know like what, you know, when you're culturally, you're styling towards, right? With something like, like Mandalorian, you have to just get to a point where you know different, like, tribes that have been completely made up. And like, do you have to just like, do you study for that or do you just absorb it by being around it? Like, oh, I know that people from this planet dress like this, right? This is what a Jalla looks like. Yeah, exactly. You just figure that like, or is there like a, is there a book, a Bible that you have to study? How does it work? It's, it's actually, I, I talked to a lot of the people who are working there, more so

1:05:30than anything else. And like Alyssa, who was the ACD, she's a wealth of knowledge, like everybody who worked there, excluding myself, were huge, like star, like knew the whole trilogy, everything. So so when I stepped into Mandalorian, they basically shoot pieces of every episode all at the same time. Okay. And because it kind of flashes back and forth and all this stuff. So by the time I came in to help with that, they had already done a lot of establishing things. It's kind of getting caught up. And but I was really there to help prep and to help start a soak up. So that's where my training really came in because of all the storm troopers it. I mean, I was like up watching the cartoons because they, Julie, Julie, they're animated series. I had to stay and watch the animated series.

1:06:37And as I was breaking down the script, things that I didn't understand, I would go back and I would, I would ask questions. So there's like this whole down to like where the storm troopers came from. The colors. The right. It's the storm troopers were the clones. Yeah. Didn't you like, didn't you love the animated series, though, where's the animated series is phenomenally good? The. The. And it helped explain. Yeah. It does. Yeah. Because when you're just thrown in it, you're just like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also like everybody knew all the, the verbiage was the one that I was having a really hard time figuring out. Sure. Well, lickies, the ones with the, you know, the ears and then all the different animations and how we were going to do it. And it was so overwhelming. I mean, it got to the point where I was dreaming it and dreaming like what each clone from

1:07:39each era and how they evolved and the colors do you have a favorite, do you have a favorite like style of Star Wars world, like planet, tribe, person, team, I don't know, what are the different things? No, they're all different races and they each have beauty in them. I mean, like my favorite outfits in all honesty though, I love those red witches. Yeah. Cool. And also, it's just, there's like this whole history behind like when you see one character, but there's like one little piece because it that he has on or that they'll have on that actually goes back to like, yeah, I don't know, a three other series, right? Some deep history and deep and in a lot of the fan base. I mean, they're hardcore. Yeah. If you mess up one night sister or Ventress or anybody, people are going to be like, well,

1:08:45that's wrong. Yeah. What are you thinking? What did you just do? Yeah. I mean, that's what I, I mean, you can really do this with anything. I mean, at the end of the day, you could say the same thing for, you know, Jane Austen for the world of Jane Austen. It's like every language has its own kind of thing. The costumes of their own thing, every mannerism, it's its own thing. It's a micro world, which is what Star Wars is. So it's the beauty. It's the beauty of it. It is. Now, what do we have to do to get you to dress us like stormtroopers and put us in something? Do you have any ideas? Do you have any ideas? I'm not throwing them on top. Not throwing them on top. You threw them on top. You threw them on top. You threw his whole Star Wars costume on the stormtrooper. Maybe don't steal your cigarettes. What else? We could just figure this. What's crazy was we actually had some of the stormtroopers, the, the, from the original that were made in London. Oh, right. Yeah. Cool. They were, they were beautifully, like they looked beautiful, but there were cracks and

1:09:49cracks. Oh, I'm sure. Back then, they, I mean, to make it look amazing, they weren't, they weren't functional. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I can't help telling, telling me a story about how, for Darth Vader, the suit is so clunky that they'd only shoot him from the knees up because there was a guy lying down on the ground holding one foot and another guy lying down on the ground holding the other foot and they'd rock him into his position because, because the costumes are so, they weren't functional at all at the time. Right. They're not functional at all. So we had actually repurposed for the clones, right? We had repurposed, you know, some of them in the bits and pieces. And then we realized, oh, my gosh, you can't because there's so much action. So then you have the stunt guys and every time they got hit, it go, there were so many, and even, you know, like on Mandalorian, like all of all their jet packs and their helmets

1:10:53to make it functioning, you know, they couldn't be made. There was one that was for on camera, and then there's one for actual functioning. And I remember on Manda, they had this one scene where they wanted, oh, gosh, I forgot her name because everything is kind of a blur right now, but they wanted her to be able to throw her helmet. And I, they called me, my set, people called me and I was like, there is no way in hell because that helmet, I have one picture and I have one that looks half that's for stunts. So they can do that, but she cannot take off this other one and just throw it because it will crack. It's not, it's not Emily. It's not Emily Swallow from the armor, play the armor, okay, no, oh, I can't think of her name. I'm horrible. I'm still the same person. Nothing has changed. I'm horrible with names. Hopefully you quit smoking, hopefully you quit smoking. I've been like, I know you guys by face and everything, but then I start blanking it.

1:11:56It's all menopause. Oh, man. Well, we've had so much fun talking to you, and I'm sorry that Danielle had to bail. But you know, I, I guess my, my big question for you would be looking back on your amazing career, which is still going. And you don't have to say us because we're on right now. What's the project that sticks out to you most as you're like that? That right there is the one I want to be remembered for. I don't think there's any project that I would honestly say like I would like to be remembered for. For me, every project was special in its own way, but I would say it would be a tie between Boy Meets World and NipTuck. I grew up in Boy Meets World. Right. I really did. I kind of came into just being more confident, but and just being okay, because even during

1:13:01Boy Meets World, I mean, it was a weird situation. I technically wasn't, I didn't have a custom design title. My title was supervisor, so I managed all the paperwork, but yet I dictated in terms of like shopping and deciding what you guys wore, you know, with Michael Jacobs and the rest of the writing crew, creativity was not so much. I mean, my hands were pretty tied on certain things. So for me, it was more about paperwork, but you guys were like the first group that I really got to create a family with. And I only have the best memories. Oh, especially the finale. Oh, we cried. I mean, there's like so many, the bear, didn't we, we had that, which Danielle did not remember by the way. Didn't remember the bear at all. I remember that we had a bear on set covered in honey and running from a bear and she had

1:14:02no memory of it whatsoever. I remember it because I remember the guy telling all the women, like if you're on, if it's that time of the month, you can't be on set. Yeah. It's he'll come after you. Yikes. Yeah. You know what you guys are. Oh gosh, no, I mean, all of our memories are of laughing on set, like literally all we think of, like when I think about Boy Meets World, more than anything, I just think about us laughing together all the time, just all the time. It's so, it's such a positive memory and thank you so much for, I mean, just listening to hear how you stood up for Danielle and, you know, like that is truly, like that is an invaluable thing that you did. And it was necessary. So dear, though, yeah, at that point, I was kind of like, okay, fire me. Right. Because, you know, and then thank God for caring too, because she was, she was a big advocate also. It was just like we are not doing this and, and you guys just made it so much fun.

1:15:06I will have to say, like the things that you guys did, yes, sometimes, I'm so bummed you're in North Carolina because I just, we have to go to dinner. We have to, we have to have like a long three hour meal and catch up on, yes, we're in North Carolina. I'm actually down in Carolina Beach, so it's down Wilmington. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. It's so great to see you. It was really great seeing you guys too and, and I hope everything has been amazing for you guys. Yeah. Yeah, you as well. And we're so, so happy to see you. And hopefully we get to see you in person and give you a big hug soon. Absolutely. You guys take care. Yeah. Bye, Julie. Bye. Bye. Dude, A, she looks the same, but B, what a career. I know. Well, kidding. Insane that the show she's worked on. The second I saw her, it's just like all the memories come flooding back and it's just like, right, we like, she was just part of our group. Like, and we used to go to, I mean, it would, by the end, we weren't in our dressing rooms

1:16:08at all. We would go hang out. Yeah. Yeah. We had craft service. We'd be in Julie's room. Yeah. Yeah. It was so much fun. Her laugh is the same. It brought me right back. All right. No, we don't have Danielle. Can we, can you do the outro? What do we say? Oh, I have to do it because you have to do the merch call. Do you want to switch it up? Do you want me to be the outro and you do the merch call? Uh, no. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, no, cause I don't have any ideas. You got to, thank you all for joining us for this episode of PodMix World as usual. You can write to us somewhere. PodMix World show at gmail.com. PodMix World show. And as always, we have merch. May the merch be with you. There we go. I had to go Star Wars with it. Uh, PodMix World that showed Gmail to Comt at PodMix.

1:17:08You know what? Find us. We've done five hundred of these. We've done five hundred of these. We've done five hundred of these. PodDismiss. That was great. That was great. That was great. That was great. That was great. That was great. PodMix World is an I Heart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel, Wilfredell, and Ryder Strong. Executive producers, Jensen Carp, and Amy Sugarman. Executive and charge of production, Danielle Romo. Producer and editor, Tara Subash. Producer, Maddie Moore. Engineer and Boy Meets World Super Van, Eastern Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at PodMix World Show or email us at podmeetsworldshow at gmail.com. As cat parents, Ryder and I know the feeling of being ignored by our cats. I often wonder, does my cat even love me? Well, there's only one solution to solve that. Shiba. Feed your cat Shiba and go from feeling ignored to truly adored in 12 days, guaranteed or your money back. Shiba has so many incredible products that can satisfy even the pickiest eater, like

1:18:10new Shiba Grilled, made in the USA with the finest ingredients from around the world. They are savoury strips and a succulent sauce that cats are sure to love. And it's 100% complete and balanced with essential vitamins and nutrients for adult cats like my bill, made without artificial flavors or preservatives, no corn, wheat or soy. To learn more, check out Shiba.com. If you're like me and have kids between the ages of two and eight, you know that not all apps are created equal. My four and six year old will just explore like little screen time magellons, clicking any and every button until I've received 10 notices of apps and in-game coins they're trying to buy. In reality, I just want something that still gets them excited, but also has them using their brains. And that is why I love lingo kids. It's an absolute blast and perfect to keep them engaged in thinking. It's a world of interactive games, music they'll want to sing along to, and stories that spark their imagination.

1:19:11It's high energy, vibrant, and it keeps them actively playing rather than just zoning out and ignoring my pleas to come to dinner. Whether it's a rainy afternoon or a weekend morning, it's the fun they're looking for and the quality you want. Lingo kids, everything kids love. See why millions of families love it. Download the lingo kids app on your phone or tablet now for free. Alright, important question. If you saw a sandwich on a deli menu called the Fini, what's on it? Well, obviously something wise. Maybe Deets and Watson oven classic turkey because it's classic, dependable, and somehow still teaching you lessons. Oh, I'm adding the black forest on cured ham, smoked the old world way with crack pepper and sea salt because Fini would never cut corners. Neither does Deets and Watson. They've been hand crafting premium deli meats and artisan cheeses for over 85 years, family owned doing things the right way, even when it's the hard way. They sent us some of their stuff and I have been crushing the flavored cheddar cheeses.

1:20:14Real New York state cheddar, small batch, super creamy. And I've been making breakfast with their chicken sausage, no antibiotics ever, no night traits or night trites added. It's just really good. Simply made? Simple as that. Visit DeetsandWatson.com slash the right way to learn more about the Deets difference. Never show up late to the game and your friends already saved your seat, your drink, even a plate. That's looking out. That's having your back. And that's exactly what AT&T does with the AT&T guarantee. They know that staying connected matters. So they actually guarantee a network that comes through when it counts. AT&T has connectivity you can depend on or they'll proactively make it right. Just like that friend who takes care of things before you even ask AT&T connecting changes everything. Terms in condition apply. Visit AT&T.com slash guarantee for details. This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.