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Things are getting so desperate for Karen Bass, she announced a crackdown on the lawless street takeovers that have plagued LA for years, but now its 3 months to the election.....
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It's the John Phillips Show.
Mr. Randy Wings in Culver City.
John, after another violent, deadly shooting weekend in Oakland,
Oakland Mayor Barbara Lee had to explain to Cron for
that don't worry, we've got enough police officers.
We're not short of 700 police officers.
Our goal is to get to 700 police officers.
We have probably about 615 offices right now,
who are sworn officers.
And some, of course, are on medical leave or administratively,
but quite frankly, they're coming back.
Boy, you got rid of Sheng Tao for that.
I do not understand.
You removed Sheng Tao and I understand why,
but you replaced her with someone who is just as bad
and not nearly as entertaining.
Absolutely good.
Yeah, it's been amazing.
It's crazy how their ideology is exactly the same.
It's just she's performing Sheng's act
in the body of a tired 80 year old woman.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Good job, Oakland.
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Well, it's time to move from one failed mayor to another.
In Los Angeles, embattled Mayor Karen Bass is seeking another four years
as mayor of America's second largest city.
However, a new poll says that 80% of Angelinos either support someone else
or unsure as to how they're going to vote in the mayoral election.
No, these are unprecedented numbers for an incumbent.
These are Eric Adams numbers for an incumbent seeking reelection.
And the latest inside California politics Emerson polling shows
that only 19.5% of respondents will be voting for Karen Bass's reelection.
Spencer Pratt comes in second place with just over 10%,
then Nithya Rahman at 9%, Adam Miller at 4%,
and Ray Hoang at no relation at 3%, 3% for someone else,
and 50% have no idea who they're going to be voting for
in the LA mayor's race that is less than three months away.
The first thing that I thought of when I saw those numbers
is why in the hell did Rick Caruso take a pass?
I thought the exact same thing this morning.
I am on my walk.
I'm like, Rick Caruso could have ran away with this thing.
I wonder if he can run as a right in candidate at this point.
Oh, I think it's already over.
I mean, he may have just decided screw politics.
I can do plenty of things as a private citizen
and not have half the city hate my guts.
But yes, this would have been an easy win for him.
It looks like because Karen Bass is historically unpopular.
I don't think Eric Garcetti ever saw numbers this bad.
I've received things on both ends.
No, I think you're right.
And what was crazy to me is that Rick Caruso
never really expressed much interest in state politics,
but all the chatter was that he was going to run for governor.
I don't think there was any chance that he had
of winning that race.
I thought he would be much more formidable
as a candidate for mayor.
I guess his consultants told him he wouldn't be able to win.
But when you look at these numbers, it's hard to imagine
if his name was on the ballot.
He wouldn't be in first place right now.
Well, and you're looking at where Karen Bass is with just 20% support.
That almost guarantees that she's not going to win outright in June.
That there will be a runoff where it's either going to be Bass Pratt
or Bass Ramen or depending on how the next couple of months go
because the headlines are not getting any better for Karen Bass,
it could be Pratt Ramen.
Well, what Karen Bass is hoping for based on her behavior
is she wants a November match up between her and Spencer Pratt
because she's going to just try to turn that rent match
into a Republican versus Democrat,
liberal versus conservative, female versus male match up.
What she doesn't want is a match up with Nithya Ramen
because the city is extremely left-wing.
So I don't think a socialist would scare away most LA voters.
She wouldn't be able to frame the race however
as a Republican versus Democrat, red versus blue match up
in which case she's probably toast.
Well, and even right now, early on, what is Karen Bass doing in her campaign emails?
They're going after not Spencer Pratt's politics.
They're going after the fact that he was on a reality show.
Well, all of that is going on.
Karen Bass is trying to spin a tail that is in no way connected with reality.
And that is that Los Angeles is a safe city
and she has control of the street takeovers.
Well, and that street takeover that we talked about yesterday, the one right outside of LA
live and the former staple center where the angry mob rushed a luxury apartment building.
That got a lot of coverage that she didn't necessarily want.
So I in all of the three and a half years that Karen Bass has been mayor,
she has never once reacted to a street takeover.
But all of a sudden when one happens to destroy a luxury building,
she realizes that it doesn't look good.
So she announced a crackdown on street takeovers in downtown LA.
For more, here's KTLA.
Now six mayor bass is announcing public safety changes after a mob rushed
an upscale apartment building early Sunday morning.
Notice how there was no public safety changes when the mob rushed an auto zone.
No, or the seven elevens or any of the other businesses that get looted on a regular basis,
whenever they have one of these street takeovers.
It is wild how all of a sudden these politicians who ignore all of these problems
when it's an election year now they're paying attention.
Smashing glass windows and assaulting employees inside and it was all caught on video.
It is yet another example of dangerous activity in downtown LA.
Rachel, by the way, if you see the video, what's wild about it is the entire angry mob that is
rushing the building and chasing away the security guards, they're all holding their phones filming
all of it because no one worries about going to jail for anything in this city.
Rachel, Benatop is live at crypto.com arena where mayor bass has laid out such a stupid name.
It really is.
It's going to see the lakers at the crypt.
You know, the only thing worse is the Honda Center in Anaheim,
where the ducks play in front of an audience of 17,000 people who wouldn't be caught dead in
a Honda. Rachel, Benatop is live at crypto.com arena where mayor bass has laid out her plan to ensure
safety in the bustling LA live area, Rachel.
Cher, Micah, the chief of police describes this as a high visibility strategy meant to deter crime.
Oh, is bass going to let McDonald do his job for once?
No, she's going to make it look like it.
Poorly, but yes, Cher, Micah, the chief of police describes this as a high visibility
strategy meant to deter crime and make people who live work and visit this popular part of downtown
feel safer.
Doesn't sound safe to me.
Doesn't of people flooded the streets of downtown LA.
Its drivers performed dangerous stunts shortly after the rowdy crowd entered the
circa apartment buildings on Figueroa and 12 broke down windows and attacked the security guard
in the lobby. The latest example of chaos and lawlessness prompting city officials to crack
down on safety measures in and around the luxury apartment building LA live crypto.com arena
and the seventh street metro these takeovers happen every single weekend. In fact,
they happen every single weekend near the sixth street bridge, but now that a luxury apartment
building was the target, all of a sudden she cares and how often do we cover these stories and
the tagline is zero arrests were made. Well, in this story, zero arrests were made in and
around the luxury apartment building LA live crypto.com arena and the seventh street metro between Thursday
night and by the way, if you've ever taken LA metro to the seven street station and walked from
there to the staple center, that is a scary walk. I did that once to a clipper game. Never again.
Between Thursday night and Sunday morning, which are considered surge periods,
LAPD will be adding 10 more officers patrolling on foot by bike and one dedicated car outside
of LA live day and night. Additional resources are deployed to ensure continuous visibility
and enforcement presence during the corridor is busy as periods. Regional partners like CHP
will take part also mounted units mayor bass and chief McDonald. I don't know if I want the
mounted units involved in this. I'm afraid of what those monsters will do the horse.
Well, hopefully the horse is just run over the monsters. Regional partners like CHP will take part
also mounted units mayor bass and chief McDonald. Say this is an effort to support the 90,000
people who called downtown LA home and for the people. I wonder how many of those 90,000 people
regret that decision. They're all from some place else. Nobody who lives down there is from here.
They're from some other place. They think that living downtown will give them some kind of
city experience in Southern California. And oh boy, are they in for a rude awakening?
This is not a real city. This is not San Francisco. This is not New York. Downtown LA is awful.
And for the people working late nights who need to catch a metro bus at the end of their shift.
Those who live here who walk their dogs who push strollers and come here to eat and watch a
game have have to feel as though they are safe. The area has not they need to be safe. They have
to feel as if they're safe. What she's advocating for is a placebo. Well, she's not going to do
anything to crack down on this. No, because then we'd have to put people in jail and she doesn't
want to do that because boss Castro thinks that that's a bad idea. The area has had a loss of
anywhere from 300 to 500,000 employees who opt to work from home instead of coming into town.
And that's because downtown LA sucks.
It's difficult to get there and it's not safe and there's really not that much fun stuff to do.
It is one of the worst. It might be the worst downtown of any major city in the country.
Well, there's a reason that the Lakers played an Inglewood and the Kings played an Inglewood
for so many years. They didn't want to play downtown. Well, why has all the major sports franchise
moves in Los Angeles been to go back to Inglewood? The Rams are an Inglewood. The chargers are an
Inglewood. The Clippers are an Inglewood. Reardon cleaned up downtown and that's when it
became safe to go back there again. But after Dick Reardon left the office, there was a residual
period where it was okay to be down there. But there's been too much time in between and now it's
a hellscape. Also, in just over three months, city officials anticipate thousands of visitors
will flock to downtown attractions while in town for the FIFA World Cup. You think about the 18.
Boy, international visitors are going to be able to gain quite an education. Oh, yeah.
You think about the 18 million visitors who come to downtown annually and the ways in which we
are trying to compel them to come back again and again internationally for our major events.
We need to give the best possible experience and impression. See, this is why I did not agree with
the city spending all that money to redo the convention center. You could spend all the money you
want modernizing that building. If you're not going to fix the surrounding neighborhood and all
of the problems with it, the conventions are going to stay in Vegas. 100%. And the mayor is also
touting a 10% decrease in homeless deaths. Great. It's always the same story with them. It doesn't
matter what kind of chaos is leading the news. Well, if you actually understood the statistics,
everything is actually going in the right direction driven by fewer overdoses. Now these statistics
are still very high, but she's promising to address street homelessness as part of the enforcement
too. That's the very latest in downtown LA. I'm Rachel Menitoff. I'll send it back to both of you
in the studio. There you go. A very desperate Karen Bass trying to scramble as an incredibly
embarrassing viral video of a street takeover in the crown jewel of downtown LA LA live in the
keep the monsters mob a luxury apartment building. And this comes on the same day as Karen Bass is
revealed to have only 20% support among those pulled in the LA mayor's race.
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Randy, there might be 90,000 residents in downtown LA, but that's deceptive. Half of them are living
on the streets. Fact check true. And Randy, if you want to listen to us on Saturdays in Fresno,
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It's the fixed California hour replay. Saturdays at noon on KMJ. Let's go to Don and El Serito,
Don, hello. Yeah, how you doing? I think I know how we can solve the problem with bass.
And you know, with the cost of gas and everything. And she's trying to solve some issues. And
and you know, like the police department, what they need to do to crack down on all these
idiots out there that's causing the issues at that hotel and everything, send out the
tricycle police. Then this way the cost of the department will be reduced. And nothing will
be done with the problems that's going on here in California. Well, if you send the cops on
tricycles, instead of sending the bad guys to jail, I guess we could just put them in the sandbox.
Thank you for the call, Sarah. I'm Philip show 800 222 5222 is telephone number 1 800 222 5222.
Well, Los Angeles mayor, Karen Bass is on the robes. And one of the issues that could prevent her
from winning reelection is the number of people living on the streets, a number of homeless people
in Los Angeles. She said combating homelessness would be her top priority. And if you live here,
if you look around and you, I guess smell the city, you know, that's not true. But Randy,
that's not stopping her from arguing over the numbers. Are you claiming that LA doesn't pass the
smell test? That's exactly what I'm saying. So Karen Bass was at the ribbon cutting of a mental
health center that she says is going to cut down on homelessness. And you know that she's getting
desperate when she doesn't immediately try to just run away from the microphone held by Matthew
Cedorf at Fox 11, who Karen Bass has been avoiding for months and months and months. Let's not forget
that it was Karen Bass's LAFD after action report PR firm that labeled Fox 11 as a negative
news source and don't talk to GG grassy yet of good day LA. Let's hear what Matthew Cedorf got
from Karen Bass. No, let's turn that off. Let's hear what Matthew Cedorf got from Karen Bass.
Here's Fox 11. Tonight a new mental health center is opening up in LA's Chinatown.
Mayor Karen Bass was there for the ribbon cutting, believing this center is just one step that could
help decrease homelessness across the city. Fox 11, the Matthew Cedorf reports from downtown LA.
1, 2, 3, LA. Was everyone on so loft? Sounds like it. This is the most low energy ribbon cutting I've
ever heard. 1, 2, 3, LA. Even the cheers don't sound that excited. They're all medicated.
Wouldn't you have to be to be participating in an event with Karen Bass? Yes.
LA Mayor Karen Bass cutting the ribbon to a new mental health care center in LA's Chinatown.
Do you think this is going to help with homelessness? Absolutely.
Shane, can you give her an assist? Get a get my girl off the sidelines here.
Do you think this is going to help with homelessness? Absolutely.
Thanks Shane. Absolutely. This is one of the missing pieces.
This Fox 11's first chance in at least four months to ask the mayor questions.
When you got Karen Bass doesn't do a whole lot of no holds barred interviews.
She does a lot of interviews on cable news where the hosts don't know anything about what's
going on in Los Angeles, but you don't see her sitting down and talking to Fox 11.
You didn't even see her talking to channel five or channel four.
She will do the occasional hit with KNX, but that barely counts as a news organization.
When she ran for office the first time around part of her framing was that she was a nice lady.
She came off as being like a kindergarten teacher. But what we found out since she was
elected mayor is that she has a real thin skin and she's a nasty woman. I couldn't agree with
you more. When you drive around LA, do you feel good about what you see?
I love Seedorf. Great question. When you drive around LA, do you feel good about what you see?
Well, of course there are still in campus there. We have many more to remove,
but we have removed many. We've been doing a great job. What are you talking about?
The city is as dirty as I've ever seen it. It looks like a toilet.
And now you're going to embarrass us on the world stage by bringing the Olympics here.
There is a very simple metric for a mayor that said that she was very focused on ending
street homelessness. She was very focused on getting people off the streets.
Is Skid Row better than it was four years ago?
Worse or about the same? I don't know anyone that would say it's better. It's filthy.
The conversation didn't last long.
But as the mayor left, we managed to squeeze in more time on homelessness.
See, Seedorf is a guy that didn't give up.
Nope. You just have to keep asking and asking and asking.
This is the second year in a row that street homelessness is down.
But there's just overall a lack of trust with these numbers.
Yes, that's true. And again, I know that we repeat this number over and over and over again.
Seven homeless people die per day on the streets.
So if it's going down a tick, that means she's producing six point whatever new bombs per day.
That street homelessness is down.
But there's just overall a lack of trust with these numbers.
When I understand that, but I will tell you something,
it is absolutely what you see. If you live on a block or you had a business where there was
a large encampment and that encampment has gone and has not come back for years.
Yeah, where exactly is that happened? Can you give us an example? Give us an address, please?
If that was going on across the city, she would be sailing to re-election.
If there were neighborhoods that had big encampments and those neighborhoods have been
clean in the last three years, she'd be getting more than 20% support in the LA mayor's race.
That's one of those things you would be able to see and feel immediately.
Remember back, and I think it was the 1980s or the 1990s, when Los Angeles, in particular,
had a massive smog problem, where you would be driving in to Los Angeles on the 10 free way or the
60 free way, and you'd be driving along the San Gabriel Mountains, and you would see this brown
haze. You wouldn't even be able to see the buildings of downtown LA because there was so much smog.
And then they passed the Clean Air Act. I think it was George H. W. Bush who was president at the time.
And you noticed the results almost immediately. You would be driving into town and it's like,
oh, look, there are big buildings in downtown.
LA's Homeless Services Authority reports homelessness has dropped two years in a row.
This is the same homeless services authority that has failed on it after on it after audit.
It has no idea where millions of dollars went and didn't her buddy run it,
who she made a big deal out of her being a doctor.
Doctor. Yes. Doctor, Valisha Adams-Kellum, formerly of the St. Joseph Center, a crooked
nonprofit in the Venice area. She was paid $435,000 a year as Karen Bass's hand picked a point
D to run the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority. She had to resign in shame after settling
whistleblower complaints that include some kind of harassment that went on in Washington, D.C.
And of course, writing checks to her husband's non-profit from LASA.
All recent audit raised serious concerns about transparency and questions about how
billions of dollars are being spent. They offered you shelter at all or? Yeah, I refuse it.
Why is that? I don't like shelters too many bedbugs.
But the problem is the high cost of housing you see. I don't ever want to stereotype people,
but you can just tell by someone's voice that they're on meth. Oh, that is definitely meth voice.
Yeah, I refuse it. Why is that? People who don't do meth don't sound like that.
No, they don't. Yeah, I refuse it. Why is that? I don't like shelters too many bedbugs
inside safe made a lot of money for this city in using underutilized hotels to spend
a third of a billion dollars and most of us are bad. If you couldn't hear that this homeless
person says, Hey, Karen Bass sent over half a billion dollars and most of us are back where we started.
Good job, Karen, because putting people indefinitely in motels did not solve the problem.
And even the people that she has put in the motels is a tiny percentage of the people that are
on the streets every single day, which is why your average citizen of Los Angeles does not feel
this change that Karen Bass said happened. Loser should get more money. No, the question is we have
to make sure that the system runs better. There's a lot of problems with the system and you've been
in charge of it. And she acts like she's a writer in the letters to the editor section of the
newspaper. In fact, she has resisted audits of that. She doesn't want the city council to have
any control over where that spending goes, where we are spending. And this is true thanks to Monica
Rodriguez, the Ellie City Council, $17,000 per person per month to stay in one of those motels.
That's how much money we are wasting on inside safe. That is Minnesota level theft.
And it's been three and a half years since this program started. So you would think at this
point, wouldn't Karen Bass's reelection campaign be full of testimony of people that say, hey,
I went into inside safe and I got my life together and now I'm an upstanding citizen. As far as I know,
there are zero of those people. There's a lot of problems with the system. We have to address that.
The mayor, yeah, when are you going to do that? Oh, that's why she needs four more years.
The mayor insists progress is being made as political pressure builds. Well, there's a lot of
things that we can do are doing a much more to do. The primary election now less than three months
away. How was your greater term so far as mayor? How was your greater term so far as mayor?
She didn't want to answer that one. Of course. Would you like to answer it for him?
Well, she could have one of her professors do it for her because she didn't she get one of those
phony baloney masters degrees from USC? Yes, it's a bizarre story. But if you don't remember this
because this did come out at the time of the 2022 election, but still people chose her over
Rick Caruso, the same exact school of social work at USC that Mark Ridley Thomas got busted for
funneling money through to his son's nonprofit also gave Karen Bass an honorary degree.
And she talks about having a master's degree in social work all the time.
Since before Christmas, we've been asking mayor Bass for a one-on-one sit-down interview
to go over a long list of topics. We're going to continue putting in those requests reporting
in downtown LA Matthew Cedar Fox 11 news. Maddie, I love you. I don't think she's going to sit down
with you. By the way, I don't think that was an honorary degree. I think she claims that she
completed the courses over the computer. Oh, boy. I wonder how rigorous those were. Let's go to
Lesson Pasadena. Less. Hello. Yes. I wanted to tell you and Randy that last month I was assaulted by
a homeless man at Union Station as I made my way up the stairs and the security officer who had
a gun at the top of the stairs ignored me because he was too busy texting. And on Tuesday,
I boarded the metro at the Allenist station only to encounter a man passed out on the floor of the
car. On Thursday, I boarded the last train of the car of the train. That is at Union Station
only to see a man hunched over in a chair with a hypodermic needle stuck in his arm.
And on Friday night, I returned to the Allenist station where I stepped over a man passed out in
the elevator. I decided that the Karen Bass Memorial Metro serves as a drunk tank,
flop house, and shooting gallery transportation is second. But here's the kicker. Last night,
I attended a Glendale City Council meeting and demanded that they tell the Southern California
railroad authority to remove a homeless encampment under the freeway bridge between the Glendale
Station and Union Station. This dangerous and illegal encampment is on the railroad right
of way and spills over onto a spur track that's used by Union Pacific. Well, this is the
Karen Bass Memorial Metro for you and the state of homelessness here in Los Angeles. Thank you.
Thank you for the call and they want all of us to take those trains, which is why they have road
diets, which is why they don't repair our failing roads, which is why they're not requiring developers
to include parking and new build. This is what they want us to do. They want us to be in dangerous
situations all the time in confined spaces like a train. Let's go to Jonathan in West L.A. Jonathan
Hello. Hi, John. And Randy, my basic question is what is the difference in amount of money that
they spent on just the funding to house somebody in a hotel? And then was it two or three times more
to repair the hotel after they sued the city for the damage that was done by the homeless person
that they put in there? Do you guys have any ballpark figures or percentages on how much more
was spent to repair the place? Well, I'll tell you this based on what we know about a program
very similar during COVID in San Francisco, the project Room Key and the project Home Key,
where they decided to take all the homeless and shove them into motels. The city of San
Francisco was on the hook for over $400 million in repairs to those motels. So was that more
than they spent to put them in? And what is the difference? Like did they spend $100 million to
get them in or $100,000 and then they got to spend another $320,000 to repair the place?
So it's actually whatever they say that they're spending isn't true numbers. That's where they
are. Well, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. I can tell you this.
It was so bad. Tom Bodett turned the light off for him. Right, right, right. Yeah.
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That's Johnny, don't like show at gmail.com. Coming up after the news at one,
eats the fixed California hour. And we're going to check in with independent journalist J.J. Smith,
who recently filmed on the streets of San Francisco and the illegal ballot signature scheme.
This is a scheme where homeless people are being paid to sign petitions trying to get legislation
on the ballot. You're not supposed to be paid to do something like that. I guess you can be paid
to collect the signatures, but you can't pay someone directly for their signature. But that's,
in fact, what's being done on the streets of San Francisco. Well, it's worse than that because
they're not even using their own names. What they were doing was they had a table and a line
all the way down the block on the tenderloin where you had people, homeless people getting paid
five dollars to look at a list of voter registration information, write down somebody else's name,
somebody else's address and sign their signature. It was straight up fraud. Yeah, that is illegal on
so many different levels. And of course, it is going on on the streets of San Francisco. We now
have the proof with the videos, according to everything that I've seen, the state of California
has now contacted JJ about what he was able to record. But all this leads to the question,
okay, what happens when these ballots go out in the mail and the same sort of scheming is going on?
Can you even trust an election where this type of fraud takes place in broad daylight and nobody
seems to care? How many things have qualified for the ballot with this kind of practice? And by the
way, it's pretty funny. One of the ballot initiatives that the firm that was collecting the
signature was going towards was the anti-wealth tax initiative that would ban a wealth tax. So
the billionaires apparently were hiring a really crooked firm to collect those signatures.
Well, what you do is you go to a firm and the firms just do how business is done in California
because the firms don't care which side they're collecting signatures for. They just want to be paid
for the signatures. So I'm sure that anyone who goes to one of these crooked organizations looking
to get something on the ballot that something akin to this is going on. But what goes on in November?
What goes on when these ballots go out in the mail? Because it's not as if these organizations just
go away. It's all starting to make sense now why every two years we have to vote on kidney bills.
Well, there are certain things that just make no sense. People just cannot believe that certain
results happen in the state. And yeah, the state's pretty left wing and you talk to a lot of people
and they subscribe to a lot of what's coming out of Sacramento. But who out there is signing
these initiatives for the kidney bills, for example, but you just brought up? I don't know anyone,
whether they be Republican, Democrat, independent, whatever, who can't wait to get to the Thanksgiving
table to start pounding their fists on the table to yell about kidneys. Yet these initiatives
qualify for the ballot. It seems like every cycle. And sometimes multiple bills, multiple initiatives.
I'm Tonya. This has been standard practice for a really long time. And now JJ has it on video
of exactly what is going on, paying homeless people to impersonate you on signing a petition.
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