
About this episode
As scandals shake Trump’s cabinet, Harry sits down with Emily Bazelon, Conor Lamb, and Charlie Sykes to discuss the revelations about Kash Patel, a Democratic redistricting win in Virginia, and the administration’s latest retaliations. Along the way, the trio discuss what it will take to revive the rule of law and whether there’s a path away from endless gerrymandering. They close by digging into the jaw-dropping details from Emily’s reporting about how Trump turned DHS into an agency incompetent at real law enforcement but adept at inflicting suffering.
Mentioned in this episode:Harry’s column on the SPLC indictment.Emily’s reporting.Charlie’s Substack.Emily's article about the Department of Homeland Security.Emily’s conversation with Harry about her oral history of the Department of Justice under Trump.
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