Kash Patel is Pathetic

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I am Dave Smith. He, of course, is Robbie the fire Bernstein. And we are on our way to

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No, literally we did this last year in February. And then I was like, I think we might have

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out content. Hell yeah. So all right. There's a good amount of stuff going on. More stuff

coming out from the Epstein files, a bunch of new developments in the situation with Iran,

which spoiler alert it all seems to kind of bring us back to the same point where we were.

But there's a bunch to go through there. And yeah, there's some other stuff going on.

If you have any questions in the live chat, go ahead and ask some questions. Natalie,

you can copy some into our chat and we'll get to a few of those if we have time. Yeah,

it's a, I don't know. It's been an interesting fallout. Let's just say of the Epstein

files being released and all of the, the layers and layers of weird shit that's in them.

I think we're still broadly speaking kind of at the place where we were where there's

not exactly smoking guns. But then again, Rob, as you pointed out on the last episode,

they've kind of already admitted we held back the smoking gun stuff. But there is just

an enormous amount of incredibly creepy material. And it does, at least from my perspective

of this, I think this is so far very vindicating for the people who took the conspiratorial

view of Jeffrey Epstein. Now, that's not to say, as is usually the case with conspiracies,

it's not to say that every claim that's ever been made has been vindicated. But in terms

of the level of creepiness, this guy's connection to power. And the fact that there's at

least several emails where it's pretty clear that people are doing sexual shit with him.

And that that's what the partying with him is all about. I think it's getting, this

is getting, where this has always been the case, I guess, throughout the whole Jeffrey

Epstein saga. But I think right now, we're at the most difficult place for someone to

try to say nothing to see here. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I think if anything, that's to me, the highlight at the moment is the lack of

will of the Trump administration to actually investigate any of this. Like the files are

just a piece of the puzzle. And like you said, there isn't really a complete smoking

gun. But there certainly seems like enough to open an investigation if you were interested.

Yeah, you know, I saw Mike Benz. I saw part of his episode with Rogan. And then I've

just, you know, I follow him. So I see other stuff that he did. But one thing he said,

that was a very good point is that he was like, you know, essentially, he was arguing.

So the way that the whole legislation was written in Congress was that the fucking justice

department needs to turn over everything they have. But he was like, at this point, we

need that legislation, but for the CIA, like we need basically to say, like, okay, now

what does the Central Intelligence Agency have about all of this? And that would be an interesting

next step. But even just that, like that was just him, you know, he's a guy who knows about

this stuff. I was like, oh, yeah, that's a really good idea. Like when he said it. But

then you know, the next thing you think is you're like, oh, and of course, no one from the

Trump administration is like leading that call. None of them are going, oh, shit, we really

got to get to the bottom of this. It's, it's from beginning to end this, the cover up

of the Epstein scandal has been just spectacular in its insanity and stupidity and just,

and it's horrible political optics, I guess. But yes, you notice that you do notice that like

there is not, well, I'd say this, it's one of those, the Jeffrey Epstein scandal is one of those

where you could tell like who the real ones are and who's not. The real ones want the information

to come out. And the ones who don't and want to do everything they can to downplay this,

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let's get back into the show. Well, we've basically got Massey and Rokahana and that's about it at the

moment. Yeah, and then a bunch of people on the internet who want to see this stuff. So one of the

things, and I think I had mentioned this on the last episode, but it is one of the things that

really actually did stick out to me the most. There were a few emails that there's a lot of

interesting stuff there. But to me, there was the, so there was the the doctor guy from CBS.

You know, I'm talking about Rob, I'm blanking on his name, but he ended up getting fired and

getting in a big scandal. But he was like, he was like a health guru type guy, but he's

saying all types of shit in the emails about the sex parties and there's a posse as low in carbs

was like his line and one of them, which was kind of funny. But so one of the things that I know

about, but I get where he's coming from. Well, the thing about it is is that he's a fair point,

fair addendum. But he's going on and on about how he has withdrawals from the parties and how much

fun they are. There's all this type of like sex talk. And it's clear that like, oh, that's the

appeal of Jeffrey Epstein that like you go to him. He's got the parties with like these sex

parties. It seems very obviously like that's what he's saying. In fact, you can't believe how

direct they're being over email. And then there's the one with Bill Gates. And the reason why

the Bill Gates one was so interesting is because that was one of the, even though the email

wasn't sent, that's one of the pieces where you connect not only that there's sexual activity

going on with Jeffrey Epstein, but then he's also using that activity as leverage over you.

And so one of the things that's been very interesting in the last couple days is that both

Melinda and Bill Gates have responded to this. And I don't know if you read any of the Melinda

Gates response Rob. But let's just say it was really fucking cryptic. And there's, now look,

again, this is all we're in the realm of speculation. You're talking about a divorced couple.

I mean, it's, you know, as we all know oftentimes after a divorce, the two parties are not

bond of each other and are not going to look to rescue the other person from anything.

But the accusation here is incredibly embarrassing for her.

The accusation here is that like your husband was out, God and STD brought it back and then

at least attempted to like treat you without your knowledge. So she's asked about this

and she just says like, it's so terrible all of the things. This reminds me of a terrible point

in my marriage. And I really don't wish to relive that part. There's a lot of questions for all

the people involved to answer, but those aren't my questions to answer. A bit strange. Like,

if this, if this was, again, this is speculating, people are divorced. Who knows what the dynamics

are there? But do you remember Rob in Seinfeld when George Costanza asked the doctor if he thinks

it's cancer? And he goes, I don't know. And then George's whole thing is he goes, you didn't give

me a get out of here. And he goes, every doctor should have a get out of here. That should just be

your response. And if it's not that, that makes me worry. And it was a funny bit on the show.

But like, this is the type of accusation that you almost go into it. Think it you go, but this

is crazy, right? Like this couldn't, this couldn't possibly be true, right? And she's not giving

you a get out of here. She's not going, but no, I mean, that didn't happen. You know what I'm saying?

And so that in its sense in itself was like, all right, she's anyone in that situation knows

what they're doing. If they're not giving you a get out of here, none of this happened. Even if it

did happen, you kind of expect that that would be the reaction of someone just like in an embarrassing

situation like that. So she is intentionally not doing that and, you know, letting it fester.

And then there was Bill Gates's response, which is on camera. And so we have that here. So let's

go let's play the clip here of Bill Gates responding to the accusation that he was or responding to

the what was in the files in email written by Jeffrey Epstein that wasn't sent to him,

claiming that he got an STD and then gave it to his wife. Let's let's play.

No, the apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself. That email was never sent. The email is

you know, false. So I don't know what his thinking was there. It just reminds me, you know,

every minute I spent with him, I regret and I apologize that I did that. You know, it's

factually true that I was only at dinners. You know, I never went to the island. I never met

any women. And so, you know, the more that comes out, the more clear it'll be that, although

the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior. No, the

all right. Now Rob, look, man, we're in a little bit of a space of stuff that we don't normally do,

but it's like impossible with this being the number one story to not kind of speculate on this

a little bit. I got to say, I don't know, curious your thoughts. I found this to be a weird

answer. It was a weird answer and also not really addressing the thing. But anyway, go ahead.

First is he's really aging into a reptile. I mean, I don't know how much I want to delve into

reptilian conspiracies, but this guy could not look more like a human lizard and could not be aging

more into the presence of if you were to do like the green reptile face of what you think the reptiles

look like. It's like he Michael Jackson to skin color, but is exactly that reptile. I've seen

Bill Gates in a number of interviews and he just kind of always comes off guilty. He is clearly

rich and is clearly, and I think he might just be guilty in all these things. But if you go back

to the COVID stuff, he always sounds very guilty. And so this would follow that track that kind of,

maybe that's his, his goofball presence, but my read on this is dude. This is some goofy

evasiveness that makes you look very guilty. You should, you do not have Bill Clinton swav. You

should just not be in front of a television camera for a while. Well, it's just a dude.

Chapelle had this old joke that I always, at the time, I just thought was so goddamn funny.

Maybe it doesn't hold up as much as I loved it at the time, but it was a joke about Bill Clinton

and how he knew he was lying because no one's ever that cool when they get accused of getting

pussy that they didn't get. And like if you get, when you get accused of cheating when you didn't,

every man goes, please believe me, I didn't do it. It's insane. And he's just like, I did not have

said it was anyway the way you did it was so funny. But there is something about like when the

let's like say this is not true. Okay. The accusation is that you fuck it. Not only cheated on your

wife, but like in the filthiest man or like caught an STD and then gave it back to your wife and

then had to secretly drug her. You would just think if that's not true, the, the starting point

would be that is absolutely ridiculous. That is not true. I've never cheated on my wife. I've

never had an STD. I've never given it my wife an STD because I've never had one to give her.

This is insane. And if Jeffrey Epstein wrote this to himself, I don't know what that insane person

was thinking, but this is absolutely not true. And I'll give, I'll give $10 million to anyone who

could provide a shred of evidence that it's true. Because none of you are getting it. It's not true.

This is like, I don't know. He got the Russian hooker right here. Yeah. Well, he's right.

But I'm just saying like that just seems to me like a normal response to when you didn't do it.

And you're in the clear. If you're going to sit down in front of a camera and talk about it,

but instead he goes apparently he wrote an email to himself and it's just as we said, I was never

on the island. I was never this. It's like, yeah, forget the island for a second like that. Look,

the reason why this is it's a particularly weird one is you just go look

aside from the possibility of like thinking that my emails were going to come out one day and could

maybe damage you. And if you look at the way Jeffrey Epstein is emailing, it doesn't seem like he's

emailing thinking that these might come out one day. But what possible reason would there be

to even draft this email out to Bill Gates? Like, I mean, I'm just, I'm trying to think honestly,

I mean, I suppose you could argue he was going to try to blackmail him with bullshit information.

Like, none of this is true, but I'm still going to claim it's true. That seems kind of unlikely.

How would that be effective? What would even be the point of doing it unless this was dirt that

you had on him? And so it's, look, it doesn't prove anything at all. But what we're left with, I mean,

again, it's kind of like almost a microcosm for the entire Epstein story. But like when you're left

with the email that Epstein wrote, Melinda Gates reaction to it and then Bill Gates reaction to it.

It's like, all right, I guess you don't have anything you can prove there, but you sure do have a like,

what the fuck is going on moment? Because it looks really, really bad. It looks like the only coherent

explanation is that it's true. Like it just looks like I'm struggling to see what the other,

because there's one piece, right? Like when you're speculating about this stuff, there's one

piece. If this is true, then everything fits together nicely. Like if that actually happened,

and this was actually an email that Epstein was debating to send Gates because he wanted some leverage

over him for whatever reason. So if it's true that he cheated on his wife, got an STD and gave it back

to her, it makes sense that he would have written out this email. It makes sense that Bill Gates would

look guilty and fucking not exactly directly defend it. And it makes sense that Melinda Gates would

be like, this is such a dark period of my life. I just don't want to relive this again. That ties

everything together really nicely. If it's not that, what the hell explains all of this? Like I'm

really saying I'm open to theories here, but like what else? Because I really can't think of one

other theory where any of this makes sense at all. But I don't know. I remember when Bill Gates

and Melinda were getting divorced, the timing even seemed Epstein related. Like I remember

the rescepticism of the time that oh, she found out about this little relationship and was either

so disgusted. She's like, I can't stay with this guy. I didn't want to stick around for if the

heat was going to start coming down. Dude, there was the one who was the CNBC guy. He might, in fact,

he had a government job of some sort at one point, but he was, I'm blanking on his name, but he's

pretty funny because he was out in an interview talking about his relationship with Epstein

years ago. And so he said that he said one time in 2005, I guess Epstein lived like right near him.

Like he was like a couple doors away or something. And he said he went over there and there was like

a massage table. And he was like, how often are you getting massages, Jeffrey? Like you got a

massage table in your living room. And he goes, oh, every day. And he said then Jeffrey Epstein

leaned into him and goes, and I'm getting the good kind of massages. And when he was talking about it

in his interview, he goes, that day I told my wife, you know, he goes, like that day me and my

wife agreed. We're never seeing Jeffrey Epstein again. But then in the emails that came out that he

tried to get a hold of more times after that. I like, so I look like the picture that's coming

together is kind of the picture that the conspiracy theorists were painting that like, yeah, that was

a big part of it. He wasn't just a guy who happened to be a pedophile in his spare time. Like it

didn't just happen to be that he's into fucking 14 year old girls. And so he does that. And also

was doing shadow diplomacy and also is powerfully connected. It's like, no, he did the partying thing

with the other people. And at least in the Bill Gates case, sure does seem to be like he's

then going to use information he's got against you. You know, that, and he was a money launderer

for fucking for foreign governments. That seems, well, I'm just saying, if you're, if you're saying,

what are we closer to the, there's the the cash Patel, Dan Bungino, there's nothing to see here

or to the fucking, there's a big conspiracy going on. We're obviously much closer to that.

With all these guys money, they can't run some STD checks on their hookers.

You think Bill Gates would have some sort of a super computer to just run a lady through before

he's going to take his take in it. Even Jordan had some bad games, man. You know, no one, no one

hits every shot they take could have been one could have slipped through the cracks. You never know,

Rob. You know, it's like, it's easy to sit on the sidelines and tell people how they should run

their pedophile blackmail parties. Rob, but it's another thing to get your hands dirty and get out

there. And there's, I'm sure there were some protocols in place, but they did not seem to keep

together. Now, by the way, who's the Benjamin Franklin of the crew who has given all the STDs to

the women that were getting passed around? That's his look. We're all thinking Bill Clinton,

but none of us know for sure. None of us really know. But yeah, there's got to be one. There was

definitely one or at least one. I'm going to get even Hawking because he couldn't tell anyone if

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So the other thing that I this did catch my eye. And I mean, it's just it's it's actually just

funny at this point, but going right down with Dan Bungino and all the rest of them was

Cash Patel came out and gave an interview and man, dude, I just I mean, I guess Bungino's up

there with him, but I just cannot imagine, you know, the talk about people who stock has just fallen

in the last year to a like kind of dramatic level. But I'll tell you Rob, for whatever good

qualities Cash Patel may have, I've never seen anyone worse at damage control. Like I mean,

John Pearke here, whatever Joe Biden's fucking lady was, it is no worse at it than him. It's just

and at least she was kind of pleasant looking. You know what I mean? Like he's just it's just bad,

but here's there's a couple clips here of of a Cash Patel here on Fox News. Let's let's just

any order though, it's just cue him up here. Let's play some of the clips.

Oh, there he is. Doesn't everything seem fine now, Rob?

It looks like a hammerhead shark. Okay, hold on, started over because I do want to hear

the question here too. Yeah, that's a kind of guilty face right off the bat. That's a look

good. No, you're looking at me, you're looking at this. Sorry, you told me when we last talked,

this is eight months ago when we didn't interview at the FBI and Quantico that you were convinced

that Epstein killed himself in jail. Today, eight months after that, are you still convinced?

100% yes sir. You told me great follow questions about the evidence. I mean, that's hard

hitting journalism right there. Yeah, no, of course, well, look, Rob is we've broken this down

for years specifically and specifically with Brett Bayer. Brett Bayer is his role is to pose as a

guy doing actual journalism, but never ask you the correct follow-up questions and essentially let

you skate. But look, I mean, it's just one more time, Cash Patel going on record, but this time,

he goes, he throws 100% in, which really is a thing that like, at least, and like he's the FBI

director, but at least in the intelligence world, you know, Rob, you've read enough about this,

that I'm sure you've heard this before, that they are famously allergic to that sentence,

that you never say 100%. You never say 100% because you don't know anything, 100%. You know,

and then for Cash Patel to be saying is 100% sure that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.

All right, it just again, at the risk of beating a dead horse here, which I don't know how else to

describe Cash Patel in Dan Bungino other than dead horses. And at the risk of beating them,

where is that evidence? Now, we haven't seen evidence to make us even 5% sure, and you're claiming

here that you've released everything. Yeah, like there's just, it doesn't, it's not as if they're

giving us a reason, they're going, look, I've seen such conclusive evidence that Jeffrey Epstein

killed himself, that I would put it at 100%. It is a 100% certainty that he killed himself,

and I've seen the evidence, but here's why we can't release that evidence.

They don't have a thing that it's like a national security or victims would be re-traumatized,

or they're not offering us any reason why they would keep this information from us,

but they're just going to continue asserting that it's 100%. And then end up insulting anybody who

keeps asking this question. This seems to be the play, the play right now. This is the plan,

and it is, it is shockingly pathetic. What can you say?

Well, yeah, I mean, how can you make this claim again? Just he absolutely killed himself without

anything to back that up, especially when Bungino said, I've seen it. I've seen it. What do you see?

What do you see, dude? Yeah, it's just wild. It just, and they're not even going, look,

I've seen it, and we're doing everything we can to get it to you as soon as possible.

I've seen it, and you're going to see it soon. I've seen it, but here's why you can't see it.

Nothing like that. Just as they said the whole time, it's, it's always been since since Dan

Bungino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondy and Donald Trump flipped on a dime and tried to cover up the whole

thing. It's all been trust me, bro. That's the entire thing since then has been trusted. If I had

files, you think I wouldn't have shared the, this is me. We're talking about this. That's all they have,

or just the assertion, which implicitly is like a trust me, you know? Like, so they are offering

nothing. Here, let's go, let's go to the next clip. The Epstein files, the last tranche

were told, put out, looking back since the beginning, and you've been a part of talking about

this and DOJ has obviously produced these elements. Do you have regrets about how it's been handled?

Look, like any other hot topic issue, the American public and the world had a great interest in this.

And what we did under President Trump's leadership is produce the most transparent DOJ and FBN

history. Three other administrations had the opportunity to do this, and we produced everything

we legally and lawfully could. We worked with our partners in Congress. We followed the statutes

in the court orders and we produced what three million some pages. So I think we got to the result

in the right way. Could we have gotten there faster? I'm not really sure because of numerous court

cases, multiple protective orders, multiple court ceilings. And so now we've produced everything

we can while protecting victims' rights involved. Do you, the Epstein, all right. So, Rob, I mean,

like, man, I don't know. I mean, how many, how much can you say the same thing? It's just so obvious

here. But like, so he's going to the Dan Bungino route, this pathetic route of saying, no,

we're so transparent that we got this to you as if we're all supposed to just forget that they tried

not to get any of this to us. Like, we're supposed to pretend that didn't happen. By the way,

Donald Trump is still out trying to ruin Thomas Massey's congressional career. He's still out

there doing that. There was some type of, I think it was Miriam Adelson said she was putting 20

million dollars into his primary race. They're still trying to ruin the guy who made them

release this stuff for making them release this stuff while they brag about how transparent they

are because they release this stuff. And then Rob, of course, the other major thing here, you're

saying he's straight up saying here, we released everything that we possibly could short of

revictimizing women. Well, sorry, Cash Patel. I'm not as smart as all you guys. I don't have

the brain power of a Dan Bungino, but I would releasing the 100% definitive proof that he killed

himself, revictimize women. Explain that to me. Why can't we see that? By the way, I mean,

it's not like the funny thing is that the killing himself part became such a linchpin of this whole

thing because that was the meme. Epstein didn't kill himself. But really, the conspiracy doesn't even

rest on any of that. It's like, there's still be a lot of other questions that it wouldn't like,

if he had committed suicide in prison, we could still wonder was he pressured into committing suicide,

was he threatened into committing suicide? Why did the cameras go off? What was the protocol? What

was all this? But even if that were the case, it wouldn't really change any of our other questions.

It's just that these guys insist on asserting with 100% certainty that he killed himself.

So, so back that up with some goddamn evidence because we haven't seen a shred of it yet.

Also, if I learned anything from Steve Bannon, it's that Epstein doesn't really even mind being in

prison and enjoys the all-men-joy bars and he can really see the beauty in any situation. So,

what evidence do you have that the guy was even suicidal in prison? He's not a very remorseful

individual and he seems content to go, hey, it was a good time and it was a good time and now's

the prison time. No big deal. Yeah, and he was according to his brother at least, he wasn't at all

suicidal. His brother seems like a little bit of a cook, so who knows? But according to him,

he wasn't at all suicidal and he had been attacked in prison just shortly before he ended up

dying. So anyway, there's just a lot of questions here and these guys are just saying,

no, we've been very transparent. Now, trust us. Now, it's also, I mean, the levels of lies to

this is first, they're trying to, this is the classic government lie, no one's more concerned

than we are. The second something goes wrong, no one's more concerned than we are. And so,

here you have the public is interested in this case and they were forced to release this information.

But they're not actually interested in investigating it. They're not interested in new information.

The only thing they did was put out the information that they were forced to do.

They didn't want to put out this information. And not even that. And at least according to

Thomas Massey, not even that, but they haven't, that they haven't complied with what they were

forced to put out. They're still doing the best that they can to brush us under the rug.

And so to claim, no one's been more transparent. No, you were forced to release the files that have

come out and he's been going with this lie for a long time of we're going to do everything that

we legally can. What exactly is holding you guys back? If anything, the law right now is

you're supposed to release all of these files. And so now you've come up with ongoing investigations,

images of murder and it like, but he's been going with that line for a long time of what,

every time he's asked, well, whatever, I don't know, the second you start going, whatever we legally

can do, it sounds like you're not actually injured. Donald Trump's breaking the law all the time.

If he's interested in getting something done, he's getting something done. This the only time I've

ever heard this administration go, well, we're looking into if we we're looking into if we can legally

blow up boats, we're looking to if we can legally start a war with Iran because Congress doesn't seem

to be all that into it. You know, you don't hear a lot of, oh, we're just trying to do whatever the

law will allow us to. We would love to do more of this. And in this case, he has yet to explain once

what law is preventing him from doing more investigations into the Epstein files are law against

investigating co-conspirators. No, I mean, at this point, at this point, I think you'd need a law

defending your right to keep all the documents you're keeping. It seems like that's the wildly

illegal. So the claim is crazy. And then, of course, it's mixed in with this other like, really just

pathetic. This really, the pathetic kind of like revert back to partisanship and well Biden didn't

do it either. It's just so neat, man. You know, it's like there and you see this all the time.

It ends up happening when people just can't defend their position at all. So they try to almost just

like get you back into tribal monkey brain like that's their team. This is our team. But the fact is

that if I come into, you know, if we're like if we're just on a desert island or something like

that and there's a leader on that island or there's three or four leaders in a row and I come out

here and I go, do these leaders are corrupt and they're stupid and they're mismanaging everything

and they're they're committing crimes and all of this and I'm going to do a much better job

leading and I'm going to get to the bottom of all these crimes that these guys have been covering

up and then everyone in the island rallies around me and makes me their new leader and then I don't

get to the bottom of anything. I can't go, well, those last guys didn't go to the bottom of any.

Yeah, we know. That's why we don't like them. That's also why we don't like you now too.

It's just like so stupid and I don't you know and it's it's I don't know. It's an incredibly

pathetic political tactic that people use when they can't defend their own actions as they

just turn back to like, well, remember Joe Biden, you didn't like him, right? And we're the guys

who beat him, right? But you promised you weren't going to do the same thing he did and you did.

Nobody, nobody, nobody who ever voted for Joe Biden or ever even, you know, considered it or

even anyone who voted against it. Nobody ever thought, well, Joe Biden's getting in there

to drain the swamp, Rob. That's what Joe Biden, that's what the guy who's been in the Senate

for half a century. That's what that's what I put it him in there for. I thought maybe the credit

card company's man in Delaware was going to get in there and really get to the bottom of government

corruption. Like, you know, like people, even the people who voted for Joe Biden voted for

him for different reasons in 2020. It was like voting against the chaos of 2020, voting for a return

to normalcy, voting against Donald Trump. But no one voted for him with this expectation. But you

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And also, by the way, you know, when they sit there and they go like, you know, nobody told you

the truth about Jeffrey Epstein, not Biden, not Obama, not anywhere. You're like, you know, there

was a president in between those two, which was also Trump. So like, if you want to go back to it,

then like Trump, but again, you guys explicitly ran on this. This wasn't something that we made up

for you. This was a campaign promise. And then specifically by guys like Cash Patel. So

I don't know. This whole thing is just a goddamn disaster. There is one more clip here that I also

thought was just phenomenal because again, it's it's right on the same theme, the same broader kind

of a theme that we've been talking a lot about on this show. So let's play this next clip of Cash Patel.

If I'd support. All right. Well, let me take you to a different shooter. And that is the

Butler shooter. I asked you about this Aquana code. Tickles. Will we know a lot more about him?

Is there more to know? I don't know that there's more to know, but you're going to know everything

we know. And we don't feel that the American people have been given the information they need on

that. And we're digging through the files and we're getting them a more robust picture of what

happened. So that was May 2025. I mean, I don't think we the public have a more robust picture of

of that shooter. Well, I think that's an unfair supposition. We the FBI have put out all the

information that we possibly and legally can while protecting any ongoing matters that are unrelated.

But he's dead. Well, yes, he's very much dead. But at the same time, Brett, we at the FBI have

to follow the parameters of our investigation and what the law allows us to release. I get it,

but you know, what were the cell phones? Why don't we know who he was talking to? You know,

what exactly happened? I feel like we haven't gotten the whole picture about Butler even now.

But here's the thing, Brett, there we can provide and just an example here. We've provided 40,000

pages of documents to Congress. That's a 400% increase from the prior two directors. We will

continue to provide this information with our partners on Capitol Hill. When we are legally able,

it's never going to be enough for everyone. It's never going to be enough. But what we are saying is

we're not saying trust us. We're saying we did an exhaustive search of that. We presented that

information to the Department of Justice and a decision was made on what to release. Yeah,

but okay. You said we put out everything we could. Do you think that everything's been put out

about air prompts? I'm the shooter, a led shooter in the budget. Whether it's Epstein or Charlie

Kirk or whether it's this shooter in Butler, we always put out what the law permits us to put out.

Last. Wow. I mean, wow, dude. It's like, it almost feels like when Cash Patel is thrown into

these spots, it almost feels like if someone just made me, I don't know, they had my family

held hostage or something. And they were just like, you're going to go out there to 3,000 people

and give a lecture on quantum physics. And I'd be like, but I don't, I don't know anything about

that. Like, what am I going to say? And they're like, fucking better convince them that you know

something. And then you're just out there. You're just like, so all right, guys, now the way you've

been thinking about physics is in Apple. But like, he's just got nothing. What the fuck? Here you

are on record last May saying, we're going to, we're have to do a much better job of, of

flushing out what really happened here for the American people. Here we are almost a year later.

You've given us nothing. Like, like, what do we, what information do we even have about this Rob?

We have absolutely nothing. There is nothing has been explained. And like, he's just going to say,

he's saying, I'm not saying trust me. We put out everything that we're legally allowed

to put out. Well, Cache Patel, can we verify that? No. So then you're asking us to trust you.

That's what it means to ask someone to trust you. You're asserting something. You're backing

it up with no evidence and asking us to believe your assertion. That would be called trust.

This is literally you saying trust me, bro. What do you got Rob? Man, I pick up on a lot of

stuff here. Firstly, he's repeating this phrase over releasing everything that we legally can.

It's also, I envision him walking into a room after they put out files and he's like,

double space that I want to be able to say I put out 40,000 instead of 20,000. So that's

meaningless. Also, Brett Bear had a moment there where he was actually giving some pushback and

just realized, I better let him off the hook. And you can see as he's asking the question,

he just stops and pivots to another question. But I don't think I've ever done this on the show.

There was one thing that I really picked up on, which is he said, we couldn't release it because

of unrelated information. And can we actually replay the beginning of this? Because I think he

actually kind of admits that there's more to this storyline of who this person is and his

relationship is with the FBI, but it's unrelated in his opinion to the ship. Yeah, no,

it's a good, that's a good catch here. Let's, let's play that again.

All right. Well, let me take you to a different shooter. And that is the Butler shooter. I ask

you about this Aquana coat, Nicholas. Will we know a lot more about him? Is there more to know?

I don't know that there's more to know, but you're going to know everything we know.

And we don't feel that the American people have been given the information they need on that.

And we're digging through the files and we're getting them a more robust picture of what happened.

So that was May 2025. I mean, I don't think we, the public, have a more robust picture of that

shooter. Well, I think that's an unfair supposition. We, the FBI, have put out all the information

that we possibly and legally can while protecting any ongoing matters that are unrelated. But he's dead.

Pause. Well, yes, he's very much dead. What does that mean? What are the unrelated matters that are

tied into this? They're not legally allowed to put out because what that sounds to me is like

the FBI or some intelligence agency had some tie in with this individual and so you're not legally

allowed to tell us about that because we'd undermine these institutions and America's going,

well, wait, what are you guys doing with people? And you guys had a relationship with the guy who

took a shot at Donald Trump. I mean, I'm going conspiracy here, but I'm just saying what is that mean

that there's a question? Yeah, it's a question. What the hell does that mean? I mean, you're saying

with hour now, more robust understanding of the situation, it's not robust enough for me to

understand why there would be ongoing or interrelated elements to this. What are you talking about?

I'm assuming wasn't the official story that this is a lone nut with no connection and no internet

history and whoopsie, the secret service just happened to not check the obvious roof with a

direct line of sight to the president from 130 yards away. Like, we've got no answers on any of this.

And then yeah, he just how he's behind some vague, it could be connected to other things that

therefore we legally can't give you more information about. Well, to your point, Rob,

that right there is a very big story. If that's true, then that's what's being kept from us.

But I'd love to know what he thinks is unrelated that needs a mention, but it's not related.

Sounds like a bit of an oxymoron almost that it's tied into this, but unrelated.

Yeah, I completely agree. And so, you know, look, he's going, he's going to sit here and say

when it comes to Epstein, when it comes to Charlie Kirk, when it comes to the Donald Trump assassination

attempt, we've put out everything that we're legally able to put out. And it's like, yeah, okay,

well, with the Epstein stuff, the most obvious, you know, first rejoinder to that is that

you had all this stuff and you've been sitting on it while you all told us that there were no files,

you only put it out when you were forced to. You could have legally put a lot of this stuff out

before that and you didn't. Now, with what you have put out now, all any of us are going is like,

whoa, this looks fucking crazy. So we got a lot more questions of anything on that. Now with

Charlie Kirk, okay, there is a trial coming up because the guy's still alive, but there's nothing

they've put out that's really cleared up at all what happened to Charlie. And as far as the stuff

with this Trump shooting, the guy's dead, there's never going to be a trial. He's essentially telling

us, you know what you're going to know, which is what Rob absolutely nothing. I mean, we don't know,

I don't think this is an exaggeration to say, we don't know any more than we knew the day Trump was shot

other than the name of the guy. Like, what else did we really get other than that? We got excuses

for why it happened. But essentially, like what you what you knew the day Donald Trump got shot

was that somehow he got on this roof, he almost assassinated the president, caught him in the ear,

like, that's essentially what we know. I wouldn't call that a more a more robust understanding

of the events. So yeah, I mean, look, dude, this is this is the deal. It's this administration,

and this has long been over, but this administration said they were coming in here to drain the swamp,

said they were going to get to the bottom of of all these deep state criminals and they're covering

every goddamn thing up. That's it, you know, they're covering everything. Now the question is,

you Trump supporter or just you American citizen, are you stupid enough to fucking fall for this

shit? Are you are you like so degraded as an adult human being that you're going to let someone lie

to your face and treat you like you're a fucking retard or you're going to be like, no, I can

obviously see what you're doing here. That seems to me to be the only the only real question left.

All right. So we got like 15 minutes left. You want let's you talk about the latest in around

a little bit. So I don't know if you've if you've been keeping up with this rub, but it's been an

interesting few days. And it is in so many ways been vindicating to those of us who opposed the

12-day war last year. But essentially, there's been a tremendous amount of military US military

hardware has been moved into the region. It was reported last month when BB Netanyahu was

essentially saying we need more backup before we can bomb around. And that seems to be the case.

And it seems like they've moved a lot of that in. And the USS Abraham Lincoln, which was one of

the ships that was moved in, was evidently yesterday, the Iranians flew a drone toward it.

The US Central Command claims they shot down the drone. The Iranian government claimed that it

was a surveillance drone, that it was totally legal and international waters. There were reports

that there will be negotiations. Of course, there's a major problem with having negotiations

right now with Iran, which is that the last time we entered negotiations with them, we were

setting them up for Israel to bomb them and then us to come in and bomb them next time. So it makes

it really hard to have a good faith negotiation after that. Now, what's been reported essentially,

if you remember, Rob, in the negotiating period that led up to the 12-day war, Donald Trump had

signaled at one point that he wanted around to bring down their level of enrichment of enriched

uranium in their nuclear program. And then the hawks all insisted that he insists on 0% in rich

uranium, in other words, to abandon their legal civilian nuclear energy program. And that was

always known that that was going to be, it was a poison pill put into the deal to design to

crush it. Now, this round of negotiations, there's essentially four issues. There's four major

issues, theoretically, that there are to be negotiated about. Just to give you my take on all of this,

I think all of the negotiations are phony at this point. I don't think that actually any of this

matters. I think that Israel and the Israel lobby in America wants regime change here. As evidence

for this, I have every single one of them in their own words for the last 30 years saying I want

regime change in around every day, literally, or figuratively, but pretty close to literally.

And so now, the four issues that they're claiming that they're negotiating are,

number one, the nuclear program, number two, intercontinental ballistic missiles, number three,

support for proxy groups in the region, and number four, killing their own protesters.

So these are like the four things now that they're claiming are major issues. Now,

it was reported out that, and I don't know if you've seen any of this, but Fox News all day long,

all the war hawks, all the Israel lobby people, Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro and all of them.

Every single day, they're just putting pressure on Donald Trump. You gave a red line about

them killing protesters and now they've killed 30 trillion protesters. So you got to go in there

and do something about it. Now, what they insisted the negotiations would be, would be that Iran has to

end their nuclear program. We're back to 0% in rich uranium and their missile program.

So they can't develop intercontinental ballistic missiles anymore and their support for

all proxies and treat the protesters all peacefully. In other words, Rob, the most ridiculous

nonstarter, they're asking something that you know you can't possibly get. And part of the reason

why you can't possibly get this is why no government would ever agree to this is because

you know, the whole reason, look, the reason why Israel would take that deal if they were

willing to give it is because then Israel can just pick them apart. Then Israel can go through with

the regime change. If they don't have the missiles to threaten back Israel with, then Israel has

no reason not to attack them whenever they want to and they've gotten aggressor in their neighborhoods.

So they're not going to do any of that. They're not going to get rid of their defensive programs.

The latest I had heard reported was that Iran came back and countered with why don't we enter

third party negotiations, but we'll only let's keep it to the nuclear issue, which was the issue we

were negotiating last time. And I just saw it reported earlier this morning that Iran pulled out

of the negotiations because the US refused to make them just about the nuclear issue. So

seems to me what we're seeing here is another round of phony poise and pill negotiations

intentionally designed to let the the administration say, look, we tried to negotiate. They won't do

it any other way. And so we have no choice but to bomb them. That seems to be my best read of it.

I don't know any thoughts you have on any of that. Well, I'll just add one thing to the end of that

statement or just walk away and that provoked everybody for no reason. Had a little show of

moving boats over here, maximum pressure. And all right, let's call it a day. So

but yeah, I was I was joking that the provisions were essentially, hey, Iran, can you make it

easier for us to attack you? Can you make it so that there are no, because the reason we're not

attacking now is because there's costs. Can you just take away the costs and then trust us that

we're going to be nice? Well, it really is something that you know, I look, I don't know the

reason why I tend to think they're going to bomb Iran again is just that I do think the

the military movements. I mean, these these things, it's not as if this is easy or cheap to do.

Like there's already it's like tens of millions of dollars have already been spent on just moving

all these these military assets in place. And I don't know, I'm sure I wouldn't put it past

Trump to do that just for show, but it seems to me like we're following the same playbook as

last time, you know, like it seems to be leading right up to the same thing. And yes, to your point,

I mean, there's the idea of asking a government after you've already tricked them last time in

your negotiation to be saying like that's our negotiation. If you could just grab your ankles

and spread your cheeks for us, then we totally won't do anything after that. It's just it's absurd.

And I got to say it's very it's it's this is why I said it's very vindicating for us. It's

so revealing for the people last time who were saying it's just about their nuclear program.

It's just about their nuclear, it's just about the threat of them developing a nuclear weapon.

And then to brag that we obliterated their nuclear capabilities. And then to say that six months

later, we're right back at the same spot where we still have to be concerned with their nuclear

program plus these four other things now. It's just again, it's it's it's about as transparent as

fucking cash, but tell telling you he's turned over everything he can. And this is obvious at this

point. And this is what it's always been about. This was obvious to me last summer. I think it's

obvious to just about anyone paying attention. I don't know how you could not see it when they all

tell you in your than their own words, but that this is about regime change. And this has been

something that you know, you can go back to the what what Richard Pearl and David Worms are

we're saying about degrading around back in the mid 1990s. You can look at Benjamin Netanyahu

testifying before Congress in 2002 that we ought to do a regime change war in in around. You could

listen to John Kerriaku. John Kerriaku had he's got a bunch of interesting little stories about

them saying at the highest possible level that will be in Tehran by next year back in 2003. I believe

that was you can listen to all types of the propaganda that Netanyahu has been spewing about how close

they were to a bomb for the last 30 years. Every single war hawk from John McCain and Lindsey Graham

and all of them constantly talking about regime change in Tehran.

It's so obviously that about that and that's the goal here. But sure, I guess Israel would take

you can't support Hezbollah anymore or have any more missiles because then they kind of get

their way and then they can do whatever they want and they've demonstrated already that they

will attack the Iranian government. You know, look dude, I'm just saying just calling balls and

strikes here. They are Iran is probably in a situation where they're justified. Yeah, I walk

that back a little bit. If there's ever a time to be justified to launch a preemptive war,

Iran is about as close as you could be to that. They're being surrounded, they're being threatened,

they're being bullied, they've already been attacked. So like, I don't even know if you'd call

it a preemptive war depending on how you define that. But it seems pretty clear that we're pushing

them as much as we can push them. The Iranian government is talking tough. They're talking very

tough about how they will not go down like last time. There will not be advanced warning,

there will not like they really will respond. The American military movements seem to indicate

that we're concerned with that threat. That being said, I don't know. I really don't know. I do wonder

and in a lot of ways, this is the big question and I do think that some people, some people who I

really admire, who I think are, have been largely correct about foreign policy for decades,

definitely said some kind of like unqualified statements where they didn't kind of hedge their

bets a little bit about the 12-day war where they said, if you attack Iran's nuclear program,

they will respond by killing a bunch of Americans in the area that many of us were, I don't know,

thought that that was an unacceptable risk to take. It turned out they showed restraint

out of a desire for self preservation. The question is, what if their self preservation is really

threatened? What if it becomes clear that this really is a regime change? Now, I don't know,

like even in that scenario, Rob, it's possible that they would just take it because what the

fuck are they going to do? I mean, they can kill a lot of Americans, they could kill a lot of

Israelis, but they know if they do that, their country's going to get lit up. So you're leaving

yourself in a position of wondering, what will the Iatola do in that situation? Will he just go,

shit, you got me? And back down, or will he start lightening up American targets? Why on earth

we want to find that out? You know, like why on earth we want to roll the dice to maybe get a

bunch of Americans killed and maybe get drawn into a wider war and then kill a whole bunch of

Iranians in response when there are a country that poses absolutely no threat to us. And that's

ridiculous, but that seems to be where we're at right now. And I'm not sure exactly what would

happen. You know, the the mullahs talk a big game, but they always talk a big game. And I've

actually been surprised how much they've backed down over the years. So I don't know, we will see.

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I mean, certainly flirting with the problem that you guys just have boats out there and you're

having interactions with their drones at the moment. It kind of feels like you're looking for an

escalation. Sure does. Sure does. And even it sure feels that way. And even if you're not looking

for an escalation, the thing about wars is you start putting your guys in harm's way and you might

get that escalation whether you're looking for it or not. So that's the situation out of as of

right now. They're, look, they're just like I said, it was just reported earlier today that

Iran's pulling out because the deals won't be just about the nuclear talks. Over the last week,

there's been a bunch of other Arab countries and European countries who have stepped up to offer

to facilitate negotiations. Maybe we can get back to a place like that. You know, Iran also,

this has also been reported in multiple outlets that Iran refused direct negotiations and said

they'll only enter into third party negotiations, which makes a lot of sense given the way they

got burned last time that they want as many other people to be there as possible to also be like,

hey, you were here too. You saw this deal. We will see and we will keep talking about it. All

right guys. We're leaving for Key West tomorrow. Catch you guys soon. Peace.