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Ken's Darkest Take Yet: "What Are They Seeing?" With Deshaun Watson

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Ken argues this is the most down he's felt about a Browns season in 15 years on the air, tying that mood directly to Zac Jackson's blunt assessment that Watson has nothing left that challenges NFL defenses. He wonders whether fans would trust the quarterback call more if a proven winner like John Harbaugh or Mike Tomlin were making it instead of first-year coach Todd Monken, and hopes Monken's patience with Watson is really about Shedeur Sanders not being ready yet rather than genuine belief in Watson.

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Ken's Darkest Take Yet: "What Are They Seeing?" With Deshaun Watson

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The Ken Carman Show with Anthony LimaKen's Darkest Take Yet: "What Are They Seeing?" With Deshaun Watson. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

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Zach, we did catch wind towards the end of the available practices for media. The RPO stuff was a little more of an emphasis. You're going to really do that with Shedor. Which is kind of cool because he's not even fast. He doesn't have one skill that challenges NFL D-Sets. But yeah, you're right. That's probably what they're going to do. And really tied hinted throughout the whole spring. The experience and mobility had given lots in the edge. He outright said that a couple of times. He danced around it a few other times. So we probably aren't going to see that. But it just jets me. It's just kind of cool. It's one thing for us to say it. It's another thing for Zach to say it. That's why. That's why this is probably as down about a regular season. And as I've seen people ever in 15 years on the fan, easily the biggest one since 2017. 2017, I think it's like, well, how much worse can one, how much worse can one in 15 team be? They could be worse.

This is easily the most down and out I've felt. And it's because of that. I know that there's a lot of nastiness that comes with Deshan Watts and about all the history and everything there. But that crystallizes it. Because I mean, you've had guys accused of bad things before that have played in the NFL. And they're fans of line right up and went into those stadiums. We said, boo to a goose about it. And if he had any redeeming qualities on the field anymore for fans, I think that people would maybe feel a little bit different. Like I've had some people try to get in over the last week. Like I really thought by this week. And maybe it will be that way that the worm will turn and that people really want us to talk them into the season. Because we are the home of Super Bowl Superbrowns, even though that was born out of sarcasm and cynicism when they were one in 15. I think some people were kind of waiting last year for us to really get them going. And I fought it off, fought it off, fought it off. And then I'm going against me.

As far as predictions are concerned. You said you heard some of the afternoon show saying everybody in Cleveland's trying to shoot Deshan Watts or something like that. Is that what you heard? I was very confused because. Because Zachson Cleveland and that, I'm sugarcoded a damn thing. Zach was even more sour than I could ever be. I haven't exactly heard people lining up to talk like this is going to go really well. Obviously, if like, should or was starting, I think there'd be more hope. But I don't think people would be lining up predicting playoffs or anything with should or either. So I think this notion that, hey, one is way up here and one is way down there. Like I think that's just kind of fictitious. I just think one of them though gives them a sense. Like I've listened to Nick and Jonathan. I've listened to some other folks here at the station. And I totally get where some, even the ones that are detractors of should or seem to be coming off. Like there is again, I use the word curiosity. It's just it feels a little bit different.

And it might not end up being good in the end. But it's still a better feeling than this. Then the constant reminders of what could have been. I mean, even yesterday, the Baker May field extension get happens and it's like, you start to remember things and how it wasn't like, man, how we had not lost our mind. Like I went through that with you last hour. And I don't need to do it again. But I think what Zach really did was just crystallize it to, that's why because you've watched him. You've seen him in training camp. As much as I hate that stupid QB tracker that goes around the internet that coaches do not use, clearly they don't or he would be the starting quarter of X should or would be. But people see that. I think that should or should be the guy, not DeShon Watson. They like should or more anyway. Look like he had a better preseason because the last time we saw DeShon Watson, he was absolutely deplorable out there in the field. And then when Zach's like, he has nothing that challenges an NFL defense anymore. You went from MVP caliber to nothing that challenges an NFL defense anymore. And it feels like Brown's fans are in reality

that they can't believe the coaching staff is an in reality. Yeah, why is he starting exactly the exact just described? You get what I'm saying? How is he starting? And if it were honestly like if John Harball had come to Cleveland, think about this, you have a first year head coach. He's a six year old man and I like the guy a lot. Okay, but he's a first year head coach had John Harball come to Cleveland. I went to Sean Watson's a starter. You think we're going to hear all these sentences like that. Would Zach just said about the Sean Watson if John Harball was a start, was the head coach of the football team? Now, I think there would be some detractors that said he got fired by the Ravens. If Mike Tomlin were the head coach of the Browns, if he had left Pittsburgh and became the head coach, if Bella checked came to if anybody with a reputation for success, which Todd Monkendez have a reputation as a of success as an assistant. But if anybody had a standard reputation of this is a successful football coach, this is the guy who's won games at a high level before. I throw McCarthy in there even. He's won a Super Bowl. He's won a lot of football games. I know he looks like a sourpuss,

but he is a successful football coach. If one of those guys were to say it, you might feel a little bit different. But because it is a first year guy, you're going, what is what are they seeing? Oh, I can't they see the truth. Look at this. This is this is a scared man. This is a man who's afraid of of any pressure that's at him. He doesn't know how to do it anymore. He can't check through a progression. His feet have gotten sloppy or in sloppy over time. It's exactly what Zaks says. He'll go, what are we doing wasting our time here? And so I think it's become Zaks says 10 and a half quarters. I think for some fans, it's become wishful thinking. Let's just end this charade as soon as we possibly can. And then we'll get the Shedore in tailing green. And by that time, maybe Dylan Gabriel will be back. And we can just go on about our season. Let's just everybody think Todd Monkend is picking the wrong quarterback like on purpose. No, is that when everybody, we're all in the same boat. We're all listening to what Zach is saying. And he's been pretty consistent. And we're all like, well, then how is he starting?

Okay, Todd Monkend came in and is like, yep, this is our starting quarterback. It's either A. And I go back to what Todd was kind of telling us yesterday. It's either A that he really does believe to Sean Watson has something in there that he can still get out, which boy, that seems to be separate from reality. There for a lot of fans or B and I hope it's this way that the guy who's the second year quarterback just isn't ready to hit the field with his offense yet. Just like the callers have been saying, the offensive lines new. You got five new offensive lineman out there. You got two rookie wide receivers, etc, etc. Like that's that's what I hope is more the truth. That it's not that Watson might be the best. It's that the other guy just in his eyes isn't ready yet and needs to be ready here sooner than later. Ten and a half quarters. Lord almighty. 216474 to below 92. Coming up a little bit later on at 845. Lime and I are going to get in the fight of all fights because it happened last night because I'll tell you what, I don't hate Michigan.

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