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Birth control, and now I would be very clear about hormonal birth control.
Hormonal birth control is messed up.
It is like fake male hormones that women are told for decades to ingest.
Instead of like mixing PCOS, painful periods, other things that, you know,
fibroids that women have, doctors just prescribe birth, like I'll take this,
don't, we're not gonna fix the bruise problem, just take this.
Birth control fakes your body out and to thinking you're pregnant all the time.
That is no good.
And then you wonder why like women are like, I can't get pregnant.
Okay guys, Kristen Hawkins here at Amphus finally made this happen.
Thanks sir, being so persistent.
Yeah, well you're on a tour every two days, so I needed you on a campus.
And I'm a mom.
Yeah, how many kids now?
Four children.
Four children, wow, good for you.
Thank you.
That's a blessing.
That's a blessing.
That's a rarity these days.
It is, we were in Disneyland, you know, the thing that was developed for parents and kids.
And I think we were the only family of four there last week.
Wow.
I was like, is there any other families of four?
But yeah, it's, it's not something you see every day.
Yeah, a lot of women aren't having any kids now.
Yeah, we're actually below replacement values, since COVID.
So replacement rates for women is 2.1 children per every woman.
So for some woman out there, you're welcome.
I feel the way that, but yeah, we are a sense COVID now like 1.61.7
for replacement rate.
Wow.
Which we're at European levels.
It's, I mean, you look at the demographers, like they're talking about South
Korea, Japan, may have already fallen off the demographic cliff.
And that one point, there'll be the last like Japanese person
who isn't of a mixed race board.
Like there won't be any like purebred.
It's crazy.
So you, yeah, and that's why you've seen some of the like the IVF stuff
from the Trump administration, which I disagree with.
But that's why you started seeing some of this pushing
from the Trump administration of we need to make more babies.
Right.
That makes sense.
So our grandparents, I'd imagine it was like three.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, it's been tracked.
And there's all kinds of charts you'll see on Instagram of how it just started
to go down and down and down.
Now you have these proud dinks.
I thought it was like a gay term, but it's not.
Dolan come to kids.
I learned it.
But now you have proud dinks out there.
And you know, they were my worst enemies at Disneyland,
getting in front of my kids on the lines.
Like step aside.
If you're over 30, let the kids fit in front of the line.
But I have strong feelings about that.
So US is 1.6.
I'd imagine Muslim countries are way higher.
Yeah, it depends.
But yes, absolutely.
They're reproducing pretty fast killer.
Yeah, I mean, and I mean,
when you think about the immigration debates and people are like,
oh, all these Muslims are taking over.
I'm like, well, they're having kids.
Yeah.
So you're mad that they're having kids.
And maybe, you know,
Britain should have more kids.
I don't know.
Also, they kind of have an advantage when you could have four wives.
Yes.
Well, that's also true too.
Yeah, that might help a little bit.
Yes.
But man, 1.6.
So we got to get that up to 2.1.
Just is that to maintain popular?
That is to maintain your life.
Because you're not even grown.
That's not even to grow.
So it's funny when sometimes you'll have conservatives
that talk about anti-immigration completely,
like you can stop all immigration.
Yeah.
That isn't actually possible.
Like, then you talk to a business
or someone runs a hotel or restaurants
or like, what are you talking about?
We actually need employees to work.
Right.
You can't even have that conversation
until you get up to replacement, right?
That's crazy.
So we have to supplement that with immigration, though.
Yeah, I mean, think about social security.
I think when it was established,
it was like five people paying for one.
And then it's like 10 paying for one.
So when you're worried about social security
and going, oh, are we going to get so security,
you're not, because we're not getting enough people
paying into social security.
Right.
So you won't get it?
No.
I don't think I will, at least, some 28, so.
I've told everybody, all my staff, mostly,
they're in their early 20s, start saving now.
Because if you get it, great, a bonus, but you cannot.
I'm not counting on it.
Like, our parents, it was a given, I feel like,
but miss me without these days.
I mean, that's why you saw the elders
at the No Kings protest.
All my No Kings protest that I saw,
it was all 60 year olds, because they are ready
to get their retirement.
And they feel like this is, they're deserving of this.
And so they don't want any policy changes for so security.
Yeah, I drove past a couple of those
when I was in Jersey getting married.
And it was an older crowd for sure.
It's crazy.
Like, there is all old people.
Yeah, it was older crowd.
So you were filming content there?
No, I was just shopping in downtown my little town.
I'd be a good spot for you to set up your town.
I know, I know.
I moved to a small world town in Idaho,
so everyone still doesn't know I'm there yet.
Oh, probably good.
No, I mean, I did go to the coffee shop,
and I was ripping down all their flyers.
So my friend was, I think, mortified.
I'll get people talking quick.
Yeah, yeah, but I want to move to like the one liberal town
in Idaho, of course, but it's just beautiful.
Liberals take the best places to live, because they're dinks.
They can afford to live in the beautiful places too.
LA is beautiful, even though it sucks right now, you know.
Yeah, Iowa, though.
Wow.
Idaho.
Oh, Idaho.
Yeah, it's much better.
OK, I've never been there.
I know most people have it.
It's one of the best things about it.
Interesting.
What's the campus, you got the campus tour plan out
for next year?
I'm just starting to plan that out.
I was talking to the Erica backstage
last night after my speech about doing some turning point
stops.
We at Students for Live, we have 1,600 chapters.
So I've got 1,600 groups asking.
And then I now I try to follow as many of our turn
to turning point chapters in Club America, Club as we can,
and offer support to them.
So I've got a lot of turning point groups requesting me
as well, so trying to balance it all is fun.
Yeah, running this impressive business.
I don't think people see that side of you ever.
No, that's true.
It's so frustrating to influence their culture, right?
I was like, oh, you got to do a podcast.
You got to use interviews.
I'm like, yeah, but I'm also unlike the phone
for like 12 freaking hours a day, running the actual $24
million organization.
Like I have to run a business too.
I have 100 plus employees.
And I'm an influencer like in my spare time.
It's like my fourth job.
It's a side job.
Yeah, it's a side hustle.
Yeah, 20 years you've been doing this.
That's right.
Was it a I really shocked you when you look at my face.
Like how?
No, that's impressive.
I could see why you're good at debating now.
You got a lot of experience.
Yeah, absolutely.
Was it successful at first?
Like walk me through that journey?
Yeah, I mean, when I started Students for Live,
I had just gotten married.
I had just turned 21.
I graduated college in high school early.
So I graduated in 19.
So I got a little head start for everybody.
But it was interesting that I got to meet like a lot
of my heroes, many of them who have since passed.
Phyllis Shaftley, for example.
And it was interesting that I got a lot of job offers
after I started Students for Live.
People going, that's so cute.
You want to try to mobilize college students.
If you need a job, come see us in a few months.
Like everyone thought we were going to completely fail
because they had been tried before.
But the difference in what we were able to do
was that I had worked on political campaigns.
And so I took very much of a different approach
of a political campaign approach on these campuses.
We weren't working to wait for students to come dust.
We went out there with like old-fashioned, foldable tables
with clipboards.
Then when iPads came out, we thought that was so cool.
We were so revolutionary at iPads.
But we were going to go out and sign up students
and say, hey, are you pro or anti-borshan?
Which one are you?
If you're anti-borshan, great.
We want to train you in how to be a leader
because anybody who studies any social movement history,
civil rights, tobacco sensation, gay marriage,
clean water, clean air act, you always need an army.
You need the side that has the largest,
most well-trained army is the side that always wins.
And that was something that I noticed in the pro-life movement,
where everyone was like focusing on Washington, D.C.
He's 100 guys in Congress.
And that's all we focus on.
But changing laws, it's important,
but you also have to change culture
and culture starts with young people.
Because that's where it all starts.
That's where it all shifts.
That's so true.
Abortion was always the biggest shoe for you.
Absolutely.
My mission in life is to see abortion made unthinkable
and unavailable.
So illegal, but also unthinkable.
No woman ever again feels.
I want no woman to ever again think.
She has to pay someone to end the life of her child
in order to be successful or to complete her career goals
or reach her career goals or complete your education.
I think it's bullshit that plan parenthood
and the abortion lobby have lied to women for 50 years,
telling them the abortion is empowerment.
When, in fact, it's literally the opposite.
They pray off of your desperation.
They're the ones who tell her, no, you can't.
We are the ones in the pro-life movement,
but nearly 3,000 free pregnancy centers.
We're the ones going door to door educating her
about Title IX, about the 19,000
Fairly Qualified Health Centers
that already get federal taxpayer dollars
offer more resources and services than plan parenthood,
more cost-effective resources,
and better ethical resources.
We don't need plan parenthood.
They profit off of your despair.
And then they take that profit
and are one of the biggest lobbyists
and democratic politics today.
Wow.
How does that work?
How does that work?
They have, you know, just like how students for life
has a 501C3 non-profit students for life in America, right?
All donations tax deductible.
We don't make a profit.
We have a C4, a 501C4 non-profit
political action committee where we're mobilizing students
at state capitals to pass laws
to hold mostly Republicans count.
I spend most of my time
campaigning against Republicans,
even though I'm a Republican.
This is what plan parenthood does.
They have a C3, which is their, you know,
less than probably 500 clinics now
that have, they've had more than 50 closures this year.
Then they have a C4, then they have PACs
where they're actually getting donations
and directly donating money, 527s to candidates.
And you started to see a ship
because when the movement started out,
the probably like the first marches.
There's this new technology floating around
that people cannot stop talking about.
It's called the light system.
Before you roll your eyes,
it's not some gadget you strap on
or supplement that promises the world.
Every once in a while,
I come across something that actually stops me in my tracks
and the light system is one of those things.
This isn't a supplement, it's not a biohack.
It's a full on energy environment
built to help your mind and body synchronize,
recharge and operate at a higher level.
It uses light patterns, color frequencies
and coherent energy fields.
All the stuff that your body naturally responds to
to create a coherent, energetic field around you.
People are saying they feel more clear,
more centered, more alive in their environment.
And honestly, the science behind it is fascinating.
I've seen a lot of wellness tech,
but the numbers coming out on this new study
of the light system are actually insane.
Researchers measured human chic cells
before and after sitting in front of the system
and get this.
A 30 minute session boosted cellular conductivity
by 61%.
The study even showed increased conductivity
in isolated DNA, which is associated
with stronger structure and better repair pathways.
The result, more clarity, more balance
and more alignment.
You could say $500 now if you go to the lightsystems.com
and use discount code Sean.
For life, which happens every year in January,
it's the world's largest annual social mobilization.
No other cause gets more people out every year
than the pro-life movement.
You had Democrats who showed up at the March for Life.
Just like Jackson spoke on the first March for Life.
Wow.
Our goal in the 80s was saying he was proudly pro-life.
And then in the late 80s, you started seeing a shift
because plan parenthood, which was receiving federal
taxpayer dollars, they started applying for all these grants.
They now receive about $800 million a year from us,
federal, just federally.
Not even on the state.
Taxpayers are.
Taxpayer money, right?
Now they were defunded for 80% for one year in the BBB
that President Trump signed the law in July 4th.
But because of an activist judge who
has relationships with plan parenthood in Boston,
that money continues to flow.
And we actually have a four year request
HHS to see how much money was actually stocked this year.
It literally is defunded back on, it's like every week
it changes, so who knows what it is today at this moment.
But they started playing in politics.
And as soon as they started playing in politics,
you saw the entire Democratic Party shift.
Like when I started Students for Life,
there were actual congressmen who were pro-life,
who were Democrats in the US Congress.
I had a good friend, Dan Lapinski, from Chicago.
Union backed, pretty liberal in most things, 100% pro-life.
The Democrats took him out.
We were doorknocking for him against now in Chicago
in his primary.
Nancy Pelosi stripped him from all his committee assignments
from any chairmanship.
The Democrats got very strategic making abortion,
a core central tenet of their party.
It's one of their downfalls now, especially their extremism
on this issue.
Their loyalty to it, it's because of the money.
Because plan parenthood is one of their biggest
funders of Democratic politics.
And so even if you're not completely down with all abortions,
you can't say it.
I mean, the US Senate couldn't pass
the Born Alive Infant Survivor Protection Act last January.
And all that did was say if babies were born alive accidentally
during an abortion, an abortionist and his staff
would have to give care to that baby.
Call 911 and administer oxygen to this child.
They voted against it.
Democrats killed that bill.
Still a buster against that bill.
Like when I even talking about the right to kill a baby
in the womb, we're talking about a baby who's born alive
outside of the womb, gasping for air.
They voted against it.
That's how brand loyal they have shifted the Democrat party
to their own demise.
And so I mean, you now have some consultants going,
maybe we should back it up and like not do this.
Yeah.
It's, I do admire though, though,
because when we have majorities in Republicans in Congress,
we often have, you know, betrayers like Brian Fitzpatrick
and Pennsylvania, they're like,
Planned Parenthood's favorite Republicans, right?
And so we'll get a good vote here and there
for Speaker or something,
but then they'll betray us on a bunch of vote
because they're loyal to the abortion lobby themselves.
That's crazy.
Well, you said 50 clothes this year,
Planned Parenthood's?
It's over 51.
Since one study I saw, I said that they were saying
it's close to 70.
Wow.
A pro-life researcher that I trust is deciding
it's about 54.
Okay.
So they started closing clinics down January 1.
As soon as the year started,
even before President Trump was sworn in,
because here's the deal.
And we've known this.
They've got about 80 affiliates.
So Planned Parenthood used to have about 600 clinics,
but they organize as affiliates like regional.
And we've known for years a lot of the feeder clinics
to the abortion facilities.
They operate in the red.
The abortion facilities operate in the black.
They're the ones that make the cash.
So they started shutting down the beginning of the year.
A lot of the ones that have been operating in the red.
We saw the one that the big abortion facility,
which was the largest abortion facility
in the Western Hemisphere in Houston actually shut down
because of Texas's pro-life laws.
So we're making progress.
I would say they probably have around 500,
and maybe fewer than 500 facilities in country.
But it's something I see on campus is all the time
where people have this loyalty to Planned Parenthood.
Well, I don't like Planned Parenthood,
but they do some good.
Okay, let's take that.
Could you argue that the Nazis did some good things?
Probably.
Maybe built some good roads going in in Berlin,
probably for their tanks, but they're still evil.
If someone gave you a brownie and was like,
hey, this is a really good brownie,
but 3% of the brownie has human feces in it.
Would you eat the brownie?
No, because they're shit in your brownie.
And people are like, well, only 3% of what they do
is with abortion.
One, Washington Post called Pinocchio's on that,
and it's actually 11%, but still,
11% of the brownie is killing human beings.
Millions.
Millions?
I mean, they have killed over 10 million children
in like the last 20 years.
Wow.
They bragged last year, the day after Mother's Day,
this year, they released their report bragging
that they were at an all-time high of their abortions,
over 400,000 a year.
They are the, they brag that they are the leading abortionists
in our country.
They're the Walmart of the abortions,
they're the little local mom and pop chop shops hate them,
because because they get government funding,
they actually can undercut all the other abortionists.
It's like Walmart, get your gas to Walmart.
Do you know how much it is if you want to get an abortion?
It depends on the type of abortion.
Chemical abortions cheaper, a couple hundred dollars.
If you want a late-term abortion, I'd actually got a DM.
There was a girl we were trying to save a baby,
and she just had a 29-week abortion.
So, and she's a minor.
Her parents drove her to a DM to me.
After it happened, that was probably $2,500.
Wow.
The longer in pregnancy you wait,
the more risky it is to your health as a mother,
and it's more risky for the abortions,
because he could kill you,
so they tend to charge a low-memory.
It gets up to about $2,500.
Wow.
Where's the legislator at?
I know it's state-by-state now, right?
Because of the rover, the weight stuff,
but where's it at right now?
Yeah, so Ro said, this issue goes back to the people
and it's represented us,
meaning the federal, Congress, state legislatures
can weigh on this issue.
So we have at any given time,
depending on the lawsuits, you know,
15 to 18 states that have pretty restrictive abortion laws,
protective, you know, free to be born states.
The rest of them, for the most part,
are free to kill states.
So cool.
And so it really depends.
My biggest fight now has been with Republicans.
So I've been focusing on the red states,
we're like, for example, South Carolina,
super pro-life state.
I had the speaker of the house this year,
Stonewall, our build to ban all abortions.
Wow.
They've passed a heartbeat law on South Carolina,
so you can't kill a child
after you can hear the baby's heartbeat via ultrasound,
but we were trying to get at conception, you know,
when biologists, 96% biologists,
say human life begins at conception,
and the other 4% should never have gotten a freaking degree.
But it should be simple, but it's not,
because I've got Republicans who still trust these,
like John Boehner, Mitt Romney,
inside the Bellway consultants telling him,
don't talk about abortion, it's too divisive.
That's crazy.
It's nuts.
That is so crazy.
Conception is what exactly could you explain about?
Conception is when sperm and egg unite.
So sometimes on college campuses that, well,
I guess every time I have to explain this,
it's not hard, right?
You have a sperm, I have an egg.
These are parts, these are part of our body, right?
They have our DNA.
When they unite, at the moment of conception,
when that egg, which we just learned, by the way,
the egg chooses what sperm penetrates it.
I said it up.
Because women are awesome.
It used to be like, oh, you got lucky.
Yeah, I was like the winning sperm.
No, no, no, it's all us.
So when the egg chooses the winning sperm
to penetrate the membrane, right?
That is when you came into existence.
Wow, that's what you consider, right?
Oh, absolutely.
Because that's when your genetic code started.
Your new DNA that has never been created before
will never be created again, began at that moment.
That's when you became you.
So much about you was determined at that actual moment.
And it actually started you, probably,
your mom is floating into it.
It took you probably a couple of days before you,
Sean, in your zygotic stage,
entered into, it would take a couple of days
to enter into your mother's uterus.
But then you would implant into your mother's uterine lining,
start growing the organ that will sustain you, the placenta,
and you'd started self-directing your growth.
Right.
Like human development is, I don't know how people
can deny the existence of a creator
when you look into how humans develop, how fast we develop,
how we direct our own growth.
The mother's body doesn't say, hey, Sean, today,
you're getting your eyeball, you're growing your finger.
Nope, you are self-directed.
All a mother has to do is give you that safe spot,
that womb, and nutrition, and time.
That's what the mother's body is providing,
that new child, that new human being.
Yeah, it is a beautiful process.
It's amazing.
There's an awesome TED talk of,
and I don't even know if the guy's religious.
It's like Alexander, and I think it's like,
some long Russian name, so I won't even try to pronounce it,
so I'll mess it up.
But he goes through the human development,
even mammal development.
It's unbelievable how fast cells start replicating.
And there is no other moment you became you.
And so if you want to be philosophic,
and I know it's hard,
but if you want to be philosophically consistent,
that's when your DNA code came into existence.
That's when you started.
Often people are like, oh, we don't know when human life began.
No, Harvard scientists have already testified
like in the 80s in front of Congress.
So no, human life began at conception.
There's no other point, right?
Oh, any other point is an arbitrary point.
I'm like, oh, well, when your brain totally developed,
well, that's an interesting debate,
because women's brains aren't fully developed about 24.
No, sorry, 21.
Men's brains develop about 24.
I heard 26 to some time.
Maybe.
But like, when are you gonna cut it off?
You're gonna be like, well, the brain has to be fully developed.
So 21 year old women are more human than 26 year old men.
But no.
You know, our brains might be on a different spectrum, right?
My life experiences, my IQ might be higher than somebody else,
but doesn't mean that I'm more valuable than another human.
And so often we hear in the abortion debate
of these arbitrary points,
like all it's one the heart begins to be.
Well, it's about 21 days.
So if that would mean you're pretty much against
every single abortion,
because most women don't know their pregnant
till about three or four weeks.
Right.
Yeah, I'm sure you've heard every counterargument
at this point.
There's only like six counterarguments.
I mean, it doesn't matter if I'm at Harvard,
at Berkeley, a community college,
or debating with, you know, my 10 year old,
there's only a few arguments
that you hear for abortion.
Which university have the most impressive students?
Um, most impressive students.
And what do you mean by impressive, like,
oppressively stupid, or oppressively kind, or smart?
Let's do both. Let's do both.
Yeah, I mean, to me, it's fascinating.
I've had wonderful discussions like at Harvard, right?
Or you have students that they are genuinely
interested in the debate and the dialogue.
And then I go to Dartmouth,
and everyone's screaming at me and shouting at me.
Really?
Well, I don't really think so.
I really do.
And that was like one of my first campus torsos.
Before this got like popular to get filmed, right?
My son was sitting in the audience like,
what's going on?
Yeah, like no idea.
Yeah, you weren't even film enough first, right?
Oh, no, we haven't told you for 20 years.
Like before anyone cared about what we did,
I've been doing this, right?
I think for me, I love the students
where they're willing to have a rational calm discussion
because I realize changing your mind
in abortion is hard because it's not like the death penalty.
I changed my mind in the death penalty.
I'm against the death penalty.
Oh, you're against it.
I'm against it.
But it wasn't like, I didn't have to like go and save face
because it didn't like affect my everyday life, right?
Be like, oh, I'm for death penalty now, I'm against the death penalty.
Changing your mind in abortion, especially as a college student,
might mean you have to change some of your behaviors.
It might mean you have to change your dating behaviors, right?
Because if you can no longer kill a child
that you might accidentally conceive with that guy
that you don't, you know for a fact
you don't want to spend the rest of your life with, might change things.
So I look for, and I love the campuses
where I can have a calm discussion with someone
who truly wants to understand where I'm coming from.
Those are the conversations I live for.
But we don't often get to have them
because the culture is so divided.
People want to scream, they want to shout.
Which by the way though, the screaming and the shouting,
sometimes people are like, these videos don't change anyone's mind.
They're shouting at you and you're raising your voice back.
They do though, because the minds changed rate.
We measure minds changed on college campuses.
So we have about 18% minds changed in our conversations.
In person.
Oh yeah, it went up this semester.
It was amazing.
Online though, it's 25 to 51%, depending on the campaign I'm running.
No way.
It's amazing.
And we do quizzes.
So like we'll ask you real quick
like how you feel about playing parenthood,
how you feel about abortion.
We'll do whatever the content is.
And then we'll re-ask the question.
That's how we know it's a mind change.
It's not like a conversion.
Because like social people are like a conversion to click.
No, no, no, a conversion to minds changed to me.
But it's incredible because when I can have someone
shouting at me or whatever, and all I'm doing
is calmly repeating back.
They're really a logical argument, unscientific argument.
It changes minds because when you're
sitting in bed scrolling, that's when you're most likely
to really consider what's being presented.
Your guard's down.
Oh, your guard's totally down.
You're not having to save face.
I mean, we're humans.
We don't like to ever admit we're wrong.
My husband has never been right ever, right?
It'll argument.
No, I might admit to myself later.
But saying that to his face, that takes a little bit of humility
and we want to crack this.
Wow.
Neutip for newlyweds.
I did not know you were that effective.
No wonder you're going all over the country.
No.
So you've got to continue.
And that's why we started on the campuses
because we have to reach those plant parenthood
as a predatory vicious cycle.
They go to elementary schools in California.
They get federal funding to go and do
be sex educators.
That is like saying, fill up Morris,
go to high schools and middle schools
and tell kids not to smoke cigarettes.
Because fill up more of this, right?
Profits off the sales of cigarette smoke.
That was like dead, the dare program, if you're over there.
Yeah, absolutely.
Plant parenthood profits off poor decision making.
So they get government funding to go to schools
and tell kids to be responsible about their sexual partners.
And then to come to them though, when they think
they might have an STD or they get regular STD testing
or they want to get on birth control,
they need an abortion.
So what incentive do they have to actually
be effective educators to educate our young people
about not making poor decisions?
They have a predatory cycle.
It starts as early as elementary school in California.
And other states, New Jersey, for example,
it's like middle school.
They go, they're the sex educators.
They're building a relationship with their young people.
They're reaching them online.
They have paid script writers in Hollywood
inserting abortion by lines into TV shows, movies.
They've talked openly about this novel idea of theirs.
They're reaching them everywhere in the culture.
And it just continues and continues.
And we have to interrupt the cycle.
Do you think sex ed class should be removed
from the public education system?
No, I love biology.
I like, I'm gonna talk about sex all the time, right?
I think we should talk about sex,
but I think we need to be real.
That there is only one thing you can do that 100%.
Guarantee, you all find yourself an unplanned pregnancy
and that is abstinence.
And it's not as hard as everyone thinks it is.
And I think we need to be real about that.
And it's called sexual risk avoidance.
It's not ignoring the conversation.
Young girls and young boys need to know
how sexual re-reduction happens, right?
But they also need to know the truth that this can be done.
And we can hold you to that count.
Like, we go to schools are like, listen.
We know you can't control your urges.
So here's some really crappy condoms.
I have an 18% annual failure rate.
Or here's birth control that has a 9% annual failure rate.
And do you know, just use this and hope for the best.
And if you haven't, OFCs come to us and we'll make money.
We don't do that with anything else.
We don't be like, hey, we're gonna teach you
how to drink as much vodka as you want,
and then drive home later.
You know, we're like, no, you can't drink vodka
or any alcohol and drive.
Don't do it.
Any alcohol puts you at risk for driving, right?
But with sex, it's totally different.
Yeah.
Speaking of birth control,
have you seen all the concerning studies,
health studies on it recently?
Yeah, I've been doing this for 20 years.
I've been saying for 20 years
when it sounded like in conspiracy theory.
Now my call.
Oh, has he knew 20 years ago about birth control?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, no, that's when we sounded like conspiracy theorists.
When we said things like Margaret Sanger
as a eugenicist and racist and founder of Planned Parenthood,
now everybody knows it
because Planned Parenthood's own minority employees
have been suing Planned Parenthood
for racist work environments, right?
No, plant birth control.
And now I'm gonna be very clear
about hormonal birth control.
Hormonal birth control is messed up.
It is like fake male hormones that women are told
for decades to ingest.
Instead of like fixing PCOS, painful periods,
other things that, you know,
fibroids that women have,
doctors just prescribe birth control.
Like I'll take this.
Don't, we're not gonna fix the bruise problem.
Just take this.
Birth control fakes your body out
and to thinking you're pregnant all the time.
That has no good for any woman's body.
And then you wonder why like women are like,
I can't get pregnant.
Yeah, because you've been on birth control for 25 years.
You think taking a fake hormonal drug?
I mean, the thing is too is like, it's been proven.
There was a Baylor University professor
that did a whole stay on this one good morning America.
I don't think she's pro-life at all.
But she was talking about the effects of birth control
because she was in grad school and she got married.
Why on birth control?
Because she didn't want to get pregnant
because you fell for the lie.
So she had to, couldn't have a baby and reach her curacles.
And she talks and wrote openly about how her sex drive,
her sexual desire for her husband suddenly changed
when she started birth control.
And that's what she was like, wait, what happened?
And she came to find out that birth control
changes your sexual desire.
It changes your taste in men.
It tastes your taste in music and food.
Wow.
It's totally misogynistic.
Because we've been telling women for 50 years,
you have to change your sexual desire, your preferences
for your partners, your taste in food and music,
in order to be like a normative male body
because there's something wrong with your body.
Like, where forget superheroes?
What we can do three things men can't do.
Men straight, just a lactate.
You should be super jealous of me.
Like, the lactating I'm jealous of.
Well, the lactating is awesome.
I can feed another human being from my breasts, right?
But instead, we told women, you have to be like the normative
male body.
Like, it's crazy that the feminist movement
ever fell, the second wave feminist movement,
ever fell for these lies.
Because it's fundamentally anti-feminist.
We should be celebrating the fact that,
maybe we are the better sex.
Well, I was just going to ask you about the feminist movement.
That's crazy.
Do you feel like it's gotten out of hand these days?
I mean, the first wave feminist, Alice Paul,
Elizabeth Candy-Stanton, the first woman
to run for president Victoria Woodhall,
Susan M. Anthony, they were all pro-life.
They'd called abortion restillism at that time.
They were anti-restillism.
They spoke openly about it.
Like, this is the opposite of what we want, right?
The second wave of feminism was co-opted by Bernard Nathanson
who was a abortionist in New York State
and Larry Ladder by Olga for a Margaret Sanger
who believed that there was going to be a population bomb
in 1970.
And so, Nathanson won more money, Ladder wanted less people.
They met with Betty Friedan
and got abortion in birth control
in the second edition of feminist mystique.
That's how we got the 1968 now convention
where they actually like,
adopted abortion as part of their like platform.
It never really was part of the platform.
So yeah, I mean, feminism at its core
should be about empowering women to have access to education
and healthcare and, you know, the career of their choice
and choose a partner or a spouse of their choice
and build their own property.
All good things that like conservatives or republicans
agree with Democrats and liberals on.
But then you have this abortion thing
that has just totally taken over.
And I think that's so messed up
because now you have a generation of unhappy women.
Women are their most unhappy levels
that's ever been recorded.
Wow.
Because they're delaying marriage.
They're delaying having children.
Being married makes you happy.
Actually being married, you actually have more sex.
Married people have way more sex
than on married people, by the way.
That also will make you happy, right?
Endorphins, right?
Having children is the most incredible blessing
you will ever have.
Your life will be hard.
Always hard being a parent, but there is nothing better.
And it's almost impossible for me to describe.
It's rewarding, right?
Yes.
There is nothing more rewarding than having children.
No career moment I could have will ever be
more rewarding to have kids.
And I know when you don't have kids,
it's like when I had my little puppies before I had kids,
I'm like, I love my dog so much.
I do, I have four puppies.
I love dogs.
One puppy for each kid, huh?
Yes, I do.
I have four puppies.
That's what I'm doing.
Yes, that's right.
I started out with one and then.
So no more kids, because I can't have more puppies.
My husband's like, no more puppies.
But I remember coming home from the hospital,
my first son, Gunner.
And I looked down at my dog, Kramer at the time.
And I was like, yeah, I love him, but he's just a dog.
My love for my dog.
I thought it was like the ultimate.
And then I held my child in my arms.
Yeah.
No compare.
There's levels.
There's no comparison.
That's beautiful.
Yeah, but it's gone out of hand in my opinion.
I just moderated a feminism debate yesterday.
Oh, really, between who?
Hannah Faulkner, do you know her?
She's like a 18 year old conservative.
OK.
And then a 31 year old feminist.
What was it made argument that feminist was making?
All the things you said, plus right to vote and all that stuff.
Well, there is some crazy stuff happening.
So in the wake of Charlie being assassinated,
you've had this rise of like these ultra right.
God, I hate to use the word right, because I only work far right.
You know, groipers, nicks, one test type of assholes, right?
I sell momentum.
Yeah.
And they, because of the influencer culture,
they get more money, the more outrageous things I have to say.
And I think Ben Shapiro here at Ampest, the first night,
said something I thought was really profound and very important.
I was going to say it, so I was like,
I don't have to say I can make people like me,
because I don't have to do it now.
Thanks, Ben.
But influencers have a responsibility.
Charlie used influencer culture, right?
He did the videos.
He did the clickbait.
But his goal was to move people to get good people elected, right?
Hard, true, champion service.
So then we could get good policies enacted.
That was a goal.
Now we have these like guys who just want clicks,
because the more clicks, the more outrageous they have,
the more money they get.
There's like a group here that like advocates
to repeal the 19th Amendment.
Really?
They have a booth here?
Yeah.
Who is stupid in the words of Ben Shapiro?
Retarded argument to make, right?
That doesn't make any sense.
And their argument is, well, we may have moved the country
left.
They voted from a dummy, 80% of women voted from a dummy.
OK, first of all, it's freaking New York City.
So let's not like it represent an example in the United States.
But to repeal the 19th Amendment,
we take about 180 million votes,
because you would need 37 state legislatures
to ratify a new amendment repealing our right to vote.
Maybe the smarter, more strategic, cheaper, faster option
to fix the problem you say you're trying to solve
is I don't know how Republicans talk to women in a way
that makes sense and makes them want to vote for them
and talk about the why conservative economic fiscal policies
or should be important to them while
will give them a better life.
Like, that might be an easier way to go about it,
rather than take away women's right to vote.
And then they're like, well, we're on the right.
And I'm like, you're not anywhere near the right.
You're like on this authoritarian dictatorship path.
And I want nothing to do with that.
And I think that's what was so important by Ben saying,
we got to start calling this shit out.
Because that's going to hurt,
like that hurts me on campuses.
When I go on campuses and they're like,
you want to take one of those right, but I'm like,
what the hell?
I run a $24 million organization.
I have 100 employees.
My husband is a stay-at-home homeschooling hero of a man.
I love a very, I think, feminist type of life.
What the feminist said they wanted.
And yet, you're trying to accuse me of being anti-feminist.
What the hell are you talking about?
Yeah.
I'm sure they try to attack you
for your husband being a stay-at-home parent.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, you should see the kind of shut up, go home.
You're a bad mom.
Go raise your kids.
Your husband, you should be voting for you.
Like, it's crazy.
And I want nothing to do with those people.
Because I'm trying to win voters.
I'm trying to save women from making a decision
that they will not only regret the rest of their lives,
but it's going to kill a human baby,
an innocent human who didn't ask to be conceived
at that moment in the back seat of the car or at the party.
You didn't ask for any of this,
but it is the one who is on the receiving end
of a violent brutal act.
Yeah, I wonder what the stats are
and what percentage of women get an abortion
in their life in America.
It depends, you know, it's probably one and three
at this moment.
We don't actually have a national abortion law.
This is how, I mean, they're evil.
The abortion law is evil.
But they will not allow a law to pass federally
to actually track the number of abortions
or what actually happens after abortion.
So we actually have to cobble together
different stats from the abortion industry
on how many women are having abortions.
It's like puzzle.
No, and the thing is that what we see on campus
is like my security guards on campuses,
there are two types of people they're trained to watch for.
Trans men and older women.
Those are the most violent people
on a college campus that I adore.
I have no idea what the hell trans women's problem are
because they're men.
They don't have wombs like, I don't know,
maybe they're jealous I can have a baby.
That's why they give, I don't know.
They're hopped up on too many fake hormones.
So I don't know what their problem is,
but it's older women.
University workers, administrators, professors.
And you have to ask yourself, why is that?
Yeah.
Well, for 40 years, they've been living
with the pain of having an abortion.
Oh, that makes sense.
If you've had an abortion and you've never accepted,
I did something wrong.
You never asked for forgiveness
from the God who spoke the universe into existence.
You live with this guilt.
It's written on your human heart.
Every kid in America has pro life.
I had to describe to my kids at a very early age
what abortion is because I'm a loud person.
They hear me talking about it, right?
I actually filmed one time telling my oldest,
it's shocking to the kids, right?
Like, they're like, someone's killing a baby.
Yeah.
You story out in life pro life
because it's written on your heart not to kill babies,
other members of our species.
You have to be made into a pro choice person.
That's why I'm here.
It's a good point.
I'm here in Hood Target's high school on college.
Yeah, that's a great point
because kids are so innocent.
It's the perfect audience to pull about it.
Talk to a 10 year old, explain to them what abortion is
and see what the reaction is.
I guarantee you what the reaction is.
And so you have women who've, it's written on their heart
that maybe they did something wrong.
They've never sought healing or forgiveness for it.
So anytime they see anybody or hear anyone saying,
don't have an abortion, abortion is human sacrifice,
abortion is wrong, they can't handle that.
Because that's saying that's like shouting to them,
you did something wrong.
You killed your baby because they,
but they are, it's not that I said it.
It's what they hear because it's already on their heart.
Yeah.
And so that's why, like, that's the,
like when we co-opted,
so we tried to get, you know when they did that women's march
after President Trump was elected in 2017,
we applied to be a sponsor of the women's march
because we're women.
That would have been a good audience.
Yeah, right.
And we got in and then they kicked us out.
So we, we, we kicked you out.
Yeah, yeah, we were allowed at the women's march.
Oh, well.
They kicked us out.
So we decided we'll screw that.
We're gonna lead the march anyway.
So we waited till the march of Pennsylvania,
well, constitution before we got to the way house.
And students for life, we jumped in front of the women's march
and led the women's march for the last two blocks.
We were activists, you know, all women,
all high school college-aged women.
It was the older white women who were like hitting
my students with science, screaming them,
getting violent.
Like it was crazy.
They were the most violent people being gathered.
That's nuts.
How many times have you been like kicked off campus or?
I mean, I usually, I go to campuses in a lot of state schools.
So I don't really get kicked off campus.
It's more like they didn't honor our first amendment
rights.
They treated the students for life groups differently
and I have to sue them.
So I have a lot of lawsuits against schools.
Wow.
Private schools are the ones that are like,
no, no thanks.
You're not allowed to come on campus.
That makes sense.
Private Christian schools are, in fact,
kind of the hardest schools we have to deal with.
Got that.
Because I was just in San Diego where a Catholic University,
University of San Diego, has banned
a students for life group on campus.
Really?
They literally told our students,
talking about abortion will take people away
from finding Christ.
Make it make sense.
That's how it makes sense.
It doesn't.
It makes no sense.
We, I have made more Christians than any,
than a lot of other Christian ministries
because when you come into the pro-like movement,
you don't have to be a Christian to be pro-life.
We have Muslims, we have Jews, we have atheists,
agnosticists who've served with us, right?
But you start to have conversations
about who made life and why life is valuable.
Kind of leads you to the truth that there
is a creator of the universe
and that's kind of special.
But yeah, no, the Christian universities are,
they're a problem.
Yeah, well, all right.
Majority of them, one in, well, not a majority, I'm sorry.
It's now one in seven actually Christian universities
have an open public relationship
with Planned Parenthood, the nation's
all you support and vendor.
We study that every single year.
It actually went up last year, it was one in eight.
This year, it's one in seven.
Have a public relationship.
So I'm getting a take back if they send someone
to get a patient.
They promote Planned Parenthood
under school health care website.
They give internship credit for students
who go into Planned Parenthood.
These are Christian universities.
This is just public, but I found on their websites.
This isn't even what like the professors say.
Well, you've made a lot of progress
in the 20 years you've been doing this, so.
We've got a lot more to go, but thank you.
I appreciate it.
How come people watching this support you donate
and all that?
Yeah, it goes studentsforlife.org
and you can sign up to start a student for life group
or if you have a conservative group partner with us
and follow our social students for life
or follow me.
Kristen Mercer Hawkins on X or Twitter.
A lot of my campus videos go on Instagram.
So awesome.
And it's really interesting to see
the lack of education debate on this issue.
And it's, you know, I'm no genius.
I'm no like rhetorical expert.
I just let people yell at me
and bring basic science into a conversation.
Thanks for bringing the truth.
Thanks, Tom.
Thank you.
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