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Seth takes a closer look at the Trump administration and Republicans saying the Iran war is both a short excursion and a longer war.
Then, Kristin Chenoweth talks about how she already had roots in the cheer community before working on her new show "Stumble," recalls being a sore loser in beauty pageants and shares her love for live theater.
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On today's show, Seth Chats with actress Kristen Chenoweth.
But first, a closer look.
The Trump administration Republicans say the Iran War
is both a short excursion and a longer war,
and it's pretty much complete.
And it's also just beginning in high oil prices
or a sacrifice we have to make.
But also, oil prices are coming down.
And also, high oil prices are actually a good thing.
And we already won, but we might have to stay for four days,
or five weeks, or six months.
Don't put the straight of her moves for oil tankers
because if it stays closed, oil prices that are coming down
will go up and we'll lose the war we've already won.
Sure makes sense to me for more on this
and it's time for a closer look.
A majority of Americans say the Trump administration
is not clearly explained the goal of war with Iran.
But that's frustrating to me because it just proves
you have been listening.
The Trump administration has been clear from the beginning
that the goal of the war is stopping Iran
from obtaining a nuclear weapon,
or it's about regime change,
or it's about freedom for the Iranian people,
or it's about destroying their ballistic missile factories,
or it's because Iran posed an imminent threat,
or it's because Israel made us do it,
or it's because this whole time Lindsey Graham
has been a trickster god,
sit here to so chaos
by convincing Trump to go to war.
That's right, everyone.
I've been a Loki this whole time.
And my memos are frost giant.
That's the beauty of Trump's strategy.
You get to choose, pick whatever reason you want.
He's just a waiter walking around the party,
offering hors d'oeuvres except the hors d'oeuvres are
crazy.
Would you like to pick it a slank?
It tastes the same, but the sleeves make it look disconcerting.
Same go for the timeline.
Everyone's been harping on the men,
asking boring questions like,
how long is this war going to take?
I don't know.
He's giving you a bunch of different options.
Just pick one.
He told Axios this walk at end in two to three days
with a deal.
Then he told New York Times four to five weeks of fighting.
Politico now reports the State Department is thinking
at least 100 days, maybe even through September.
So it could last two to three days or it could last four to five weeks
or it could last until September.
You sound like my doctor after I ate a bottle of knockoff
Viagra.
Could be a couple of hours.
It could be a year.
But on the bright side, you won't have to put down your groceries
to open the door.
So the president is letting you choose your own adventure.
When it comes to how long this war will take,
but if you really want to be a stick in the mud
and demand an answer, here you go.
Just most go.
President Donald Trump told CBS this,
quote, I think the war is very complete pretty much.
Don't use very and then pretty much right after it
because they contradict each other.
If your friend wanted to set you up in a date
and you said is he hot and she said very, you're excited.
He says pretty much, you're going to have some follow-ups.
But there you have it.
For you whiny, crybabies demanding answers.
The president said it, the war is very complete,
which I assume means we'll be wrapping this baby up any day now.
What I want your viewers to understand is this is only just the beginning.
I will admit, it's not great that the guy who runs the Pentagon
sounds like the Joker after he gets arrested.
This is only just the beginning, Batman.
All right, so there's a little confusion, a little crosstalk.
Some mixed messages that happens in war.
I'm sure the Commander-in-Chief can clear this up.
Mr. President, you've said the war is, quote, very complete,
but your defense secretary says this is just the beginning.
So which is it and how long should Americans be doing?
Well, I think you can say it both.
Both?
So what, suddenly you're into Eastern philosophy.
You know, the end is also the beginning.
We exist in the space between nothing and everything.
We are with and without.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a meeting with Walton Goggins.
So the war is both beginning and ending.
It doesn't really add up.
But don't worry, the President is a genius marketer.
And he has a new word to describe the war that will put any questions
about the timeline and the seriousness of the missions to rest.
We did an excursion.
You know what an excursion is?
We had to take a little trip to get rid of some evil, very evil people.
So we had to take an excursion.
Well, we're looking to keep the oil prices down.
We went artificially up because of this excursion into a very positive thing.
I mean, this was an excursion that a lot of people wouldn't have done.
I mean, I think I know what happened here.
Trump was calling it a war, which is very unpopular.
So someone on his team told him to call it an incursion,
but his brain is oatmeal.
So he heard excursion and no one corrected him.
But see, an excursion?
Did you see it on a brochure at the rental car place between snorkeling and cave tours?
A war is not an excursion.
An excursion is apple picking, which we all know is worse than a war.
An excursion is when you go whale watching in the Bahamas
or when you take a boat trip to Epstein's Island, which he didn't do.
I want to be clear, Trump did not go to the island.
In the over 5,000 Epstein files that reference Donald Trump,
not one of them said he went to the island.
OK?
All he did was fly on Epstein's plane eight times
and call them a terrific guy and send him a loot birthday card.
And Epstein called him his closest friend for 10 years
and they partied together in Mar-a-Lago.
Oh, God, I'm sorry.
So that was supposed to be redacted.
Can you show the footage approved by the DOJ?
There you go.
Point is, the president says it's just an excursion.
Previously, he said it was a war.
Let's give him another shot to explain the contradictions.
You've had time to work on a new answer.
I'm sure you've got something new.
Something way better than saying it's both.
Let's hear it.
Take two.
You just said it is a little excursion
and you said it is a war.
So which one is it?
Well, it's both.
Oh!
Dude, you already said that.
It didn't work.
You would be the worst f***ing wheel of fortune contestant.
Pat, I'd like to solve the answer itself, potato.
I'm sorry, Mr. President. That's incorrect.
But you do get a second chance.
Okay, got it. Are you ready, Pat?
The answer is self-potato.
Sorry, Mr. President, the answer was self-portrait.
Well, in my case, Pat, it's both because when I do a self-portrait,
it looks like a self-potato.
They say, every baby looks like Winston Churchill.
Every potato looks like me.
So, Trump's answer is this is both the beginning and the end.
It's both an excursion and a war.
What's the status of this war-slash excursion
that's both ending and beginning?
I have to assume it's going awesome, right?
Iran is escalating its attacks on oil supplies,
striking two tankers and Iraqi waters enforcing Iraq
to shut down its oil ports.
Just last night, two oil tankers were hit in Iraqi waters
and earlier this morning, a container ship
off the United Arab Emirates reported being struck.
New images this morning of oil tankers on fire
in the person golf as Iran attacked vessels near Iraq
and the Strait of Hormuz.
Oil today topped $100 a barrel
and an Iranian official said the price could eclipse $200.
And let's say this is the worst global energy supply disruption ever.
They have to keep the Strait of Hormuz open.
Yes.
If they can't keep it open, this war will in fact be an American defeat
before very long.
Well, this is the worst f***ing excursion I've ever been on.
And when I was little, I was with my family
and Bush Gardens went a hurricane hit
on the parking lot shuttle.
We realized we left my brother behind and my dad blamed my mom
and my mom blamed my dad and I just told him
there's nothing you can do.
He's gone.
And then we f***ing went back and got him.
But it all worked out because now he's the governor of California.
So ports are closed, ships are on fire, gas prices are storing
and even Republicans are warning the US could lose the war.
It all sounds really bad.
I have to assume the commander in chief has a plan
to fix this situation.
We've won.
Let me say we've won.
You know, you never like to say too early you won.
We won.
We won the bet.
In the first hour it was over.
Oh, we won.
Well, thankfully declaring premature victory
is never haunted a president before.
Trump should have a banner at his next rally that says,
excursion excursion accomplished.
Although I wouldn't necessarily trust Trump's judgment
on whether the war is won or lost since he seems less interested
in a plan for the war and more interested in the name.
They gave me a list of names that you're sure you could pick.
The name you'd like, sir.
I said, the name of what?
The name of the attack on a ransom.
And they gave me like 20 names.
And I'm like falling asleep.
I didn't like any of them.
Then I see epic fury.
I said, I like that name.
I like that name.
As we take decisive action to stop the threat posed
by the terrorist regime in Iran with Operation Epic Fury.
Well, it finally happened.
The president's rallies have gone full monster truck show.
It's time for Operation Epic Fury featuring
bone crusher, grieve digger, and the scariest one of all
my close personal friends, every obscene the truck.
Well, so imagine bragging that you had to read 20 names
and you almost fell asleep.
They were, well, you know that thing when you have to read 20 names.
And you're so tired.
I also interest the president's judgment when it comes to timing.
One of his supporters collapsed at his rally last night
and he reacted in the weirdest possible way.
She later got back up and seemed totally fine, which is great.
But it does make his response even more bizarre.
In an interview, in an interview,
you have a doctor in the house, please, doctor.
I want to play a song.
Do you think the people backstage are listening to me?
How about Ave Maria?
Well, because this is going to be okay.
How about putting it there?
Right now, Ave Maria, if they are listening.
Ave Maria by paparotti.
That's your response.
Someone needs medical attention and your instinct is
let's get some jams going.
Who's got the ox? Let's do karaoke.
Also, Ave Maria is the worst choice.
You don't want to play foreboding religious music
when someone needs medical attention.
When a person hears Ave Maria, they don't think everything's cool.
They think they're dying.
Did you also shine a white light in her face?
Wait up, you dead mom and childhood dog are here.
The Trump administration can't seem to answer the simplest questions
about this war or provide a coherent explanation
for why it's happening, how long it'll take or what happens next.
They can't even agree on whether high gas prices
are a sacrifice or a good thing.
Americans are divided.
Not on whether the war is a good or bad thing,
but on whether it's a disaster or a cluster of f***ing and for many.
That's both.
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who you know from the show Schmigadoun, Glee,
Pushing Daisies, as well as her work on Broadway
and shows such as Wicked and you're a good man, Charlie Brown.
The season finale of her very funny series, Stumble,
airs Friday night on NBC with all episodes streaming the next day
on Peacock.
Please welcome back to the show!
Good friend, Kristen Channel, and everybody!
Hello!
How are you?
I'm so happy to see you.
I'm so happy to see you as well.
It's always lovely to have you here.
But I have heard word that you want to clear the air.
Yes.
Okay.
The last time he was here, ladies and gentlemen,
or, no, it's not my show, it's the show.
I'll clear the air with you after this.
The last time I was here, he promised me
that he was going to come see my Broadway show,
Queen of Versailles.
Yeah.
You know that I had a ticket every night,
set us high for you in case you...
I'm just kidding, I didn't do that.
Although there were plenty of seats to be kept.
Next one, next one I swear to God,
I will not make an empty promise again, I swear to God.
You didn't have much time,
but you had that with Queen of Versailles.
That was three months.
It happens.
Sometimes they work.
And sometimes they struggle.
Yeah.
But I will tell you something,
I'm still so proud of the show and what we did.
And mainly the cast.
You know, we got so close.
Of course.
And I'm like, Mama.
You know, I don't have children,
so I'm like, Mama to everybody.
And I don't know, it was a really good...
It must be a crazy thing having been in both kinds
over the course of your career.
And know that the exact same amount of effort
and love and talent goes into ones that take off
and ones that struggle.
And the truth is,
and this isn't me making excuses, maybe a little.
For, you know, we have low tourism rates right now.
Yeah.
The 14 shows have closed
in the past year and a half.
And that's disturbing, especially for those of us
who do love opera and ballet.
You know, we want...
We want to still keep working the live theater.
That's why I love your show because audience...
It's very nice to meet in front of an audience.
I feel very spoiled that I get to do it every time.
And you're born to do it.
So this is what we're talking about.
Am I still talking about this?
Anyway, you'll come to my next...
I will, I will.
You play a cheer coach in this show.
An assistant cheer coach.
Assistant cheer coach.
And you have some actual roots in the cheer community.
This is a young Kristen.
And now, what is...
There's a lot of questions about...
When you go, when you ask for this hairstyle...
Like, should the day come for me?
What would I say I wanted?
You would definitely say you want a perm by level cut.
A by level cut?
Yeah, it was like the female mullet.
Yeah.
It seems like real estate to say...
Yeah, I live in a by level.
And my mom did the perm of a movie and it overdid.
Oh, no.
And so anyway, don't do this.
Ever.
If 80s come back again, can we not?
Yeah.
Some of it can come back, but we're going to still ask this one.
We're going to stop this one at the door and be like,
we would not like you to be part of our retro moment.
Thank you.
Now, mine's bad, but Renee Zellweiger, my buddy,
you should see her.
High school trip.
Worse?
Along the same lines.
Yeah.
That's good to know.
That's good to...
Something to Google later.
At least she comes back to her show.
Yeah, so I make sure to ask.
It's very...
And I will admit I didn't know until there was that fantastic cheerleading documentary about...
Yeah.
How physical it is and how susceptible to injuries people are.
Did you...
Did you have any bad falls?
Did you have any injuries?
Yes.
I had...
You know, in my life, it's a very famous injury,
but I don't want to gross your audience out.
Okay.
I'm surprised that I...
Go for it.
They're ready for it.
Okay.
Y'all know what being hyper-extended means.
So, like, if you're in the splits,
your legs are already above your hips.
Yeah.
So, the first thing that's on the floor is...
Yeah.
...the coccyx area.
Yeah.
So, I was a flyer, the person on top, because I was a little less...
Right.
...so I put my life in the hands of this girl page.
Page...
Page, I love you, honey.
Thank you for having a smile.
Anyway,
we were doing this event,
this step where I'm in the splits over her head,
and her arms are in my pits.
Understand?
Yes.
Her arms are in my pits.
I'm lifted up, and I'm in the splits.
And that's up the gym,
and it's before basketball game for the Tigers.
My dad was sitting in the stands,
and Page dropped me.
Yeah.
She was the tallest one,
and she was always the complainer.
But anyway...
She...
I love you, Page.
She'll be mad at me.
She'll be mad at me.
I'll see at the reunion.
I'll see at the reunion.
Anyway...
Anyway, I fell first on the coccyx,
and my father was in the stands,
and heard it.
Wow.
I had to get carried off of that.
Still in the splits, did they carry you out?
I did not.
I had to walk like this,
and with a pillow for three months,
but in the worst part,
I coined the injury,
because, come to find out,
I wasn't the first one who's ever had that,
and I call it the cuter smash.
Well, I like about that.
If you ever...
If you do ever get into professional wrestling,
that's a pretty good signature move.
Seth, you can tell when it's going to rain.
From it?
Down there!
Really?
Yes.
I think you should say, like,
it feels like rain,
and not tell people why.
That's probably going to last.
I have a lot more to ask you.
We'll be right back.
You have more questions for me.
Well, in the back, we're here with Christen Chenowith,
and you are a huge Oklahoma City Thunder fan.
Yes.
I love the Thunder.
I'm the Jack Nicholson of the Thunder.
So you will go back to Oklahoma.
You will sit, court side,
and you will take it very seriously.
This is a great,
what you look like,
and we wanted to zoom in,
because, like, look at this.
Tell me about that action.
Can you believe a fan made me six-inch heels
of O.K.C. Thunder aren't those fabulous?
That's fantastic.
They're also dangerous.
They're dangerous, yes.
That's, I mean, from a fan.
I mean, because there's a lot of, like, artistry to that.
Like, is everything you get from fans that nice?
No.
Yeah.
Especially from the prison mail.
And the prisoners.
I love you.
I love you.
Thank you for writing to me.
Yeah.
Those drawings.
You said that?
You said that in the same way you speak to Paige.
Is she?
Is Paige currently in Carcery?
Oh, yes!
Yeah, well, she should be.
She's an absolute...
We're doing an investigation about that.
A cooters-smash?
What?
Cooters-smash.
Yeah.
You also...
You had a historic moment.
So last year, O.K.C. wins their first title.
You sang the National Anthem.
In the game, they won it all.
Yes.
Well, game five?
How many?
I was the last one there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
But it was the Indiana.
Yeah, it was...
And there you are.
And we were talking backstage.
Obviously, you were no stranger to performing with any people.
But a little bit more butterflies for this.
I'd rather play Carnegie Hall, the Met, all the places I've done.
This scared the...
I've opened for the Yankees.
I've done the pre...
What's the game right before the Super Bowl?
Like the AFC Championship?
Yes.
I've sung at that one.
Yeah.
I've sung at a lot of these.
I was so nervous because, hey, you never want to be the singer when they lose.
Yeah.
And B, it's my team.
That's the part that's the added element, right?
All those other ones, like, you cared...
You didn't weren't also worried about the game.
No, I was not as invested because...
Yeah.
But the Thunder?
I mean, are y'all in love with these young players?
Saying, yeah.
There's a historic night.
I mean, we were saying that SGA, you know, one of the true stars of the league,
I said a little history tonight.
By the time this airs.
Yes, I'm gonna be looking, you know, all night.
Yeah.
You play, as we used to, assistant cheer coach in the show.
And a lot of Slurpee work for you.
Yeah, yeah.
And is it true that back in your day, you were a Slurpee drinker?
I have still a Slurpee drinker.
Really?
I love that.
Well, that's...
What is...
Can you...
We have this photo of you.
Oh, I was doing a Coke...
I was doing a Coke challenge test.
Yeah.
Because I love Coke.
Now, in Oklahoma, everything's a Coke.
What kind of Coke you want, Pepsi?
What kind of Coke you want, Seven Up?
In Oklahoma.
Yeah.
I had to do a taste test where I knew I was gonna pick Coca-Cola,
because I love...
So they gave you six and you nailed it?
I put it in last place.
Really?
Pepsi won over Coke.
Did this just like change your entire life?
Did you feel like everything had been alive up to that moment?
Yes, I felt like I'm on another planet,
but I will tell you they weren't cold.
Yes.
So I'd like to redo it.
That's by the way, everybody says that that's the biggest difference.
You have to have them cold.
Gotcha.
You also did some pageantry in your early days.
Which page...
I'm bringing them all out.
I know.
You have a very rich history.
We want to share it all with you.
So what pageant was this?
This was Miss Oklahoma.
I was Miss Oklahoma City University,
and I think I got first runner up.
I didn't win.
What's the winner doing now?
We don't know.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
You know, I was a Christian.
For someone who is such a light,
you throw an amazing amount of shame.
I'm trying to do it with love.
Yeah, that's a hairdo right there.
I have about two strands of actual hair on my head.
Y'all.
This was what you call back in the 80s.
Yeah.
This would have been eight.
This would probably have been...
No, it was 90.
He teased my hair.
So I had two...
By the time pageant was over,
I had like two strands left.
But I loved it.
Because I loved it.
I loved it.
I was 4-11.
And when I got chosen to be in the top 10,
and then ultimately almost win, but not...
I was still like I was saying,
setting for all the 4-5-11 girls out there.
And when you're in a pageant,
this was a scholarship pageant.
Miss America's scholarship pageant.
I got my master's degree
because of the talent portion I won,
and basically I won everything but the crown.
So...
Anyway, don't know what she's doing, don't care.
But this gown,
I got out the other day.
This is a true story,
because I thought,
wouldn't it be funny if the next time I do the met
or the charity I wear on my dress,
still fits.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No, no.
So we...
I have a question.
Do you...
Do you have a memory
of the moment?
Because again,
as I understand pageants having watched a few,
it's you and you who ended up winning it.
So they did that moment where...
Yes.
And did you have...
Did you feel like looking back?
Did you do a good job of acting like you were excited?
No.
In fact, back then we had VHS.
We...
We wounded the moment,
my best friend, Denny and I,
and Jack, we would rewind the moment
because what I do is the old kick out.
And I didn't mean to.
It was involuntary.
Yeah.
I'm standing there.
I'm waiting for...
I look like Sabrina Carpenter.
Yeah, you do.
Oh, well.
She looks like a knowing bunch.
So...
So I'm standing there waiting for my turn to win.
And they don't say my name.
And I did this.
Oh, okay.
Why do you ask?
Because I knew she wasn't going to win Miss America.
Yeah.
Hey, go with the other girl.
Yeah.
It's great that it hasn't stuck with you.
No, I don't remember a thing about it.
We love you so much.
It is just amazing to have you.
How about this person here?
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
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