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Chicago Blackhawks GM Kyle Davidson speaks to the media following the NHL Trade Deadline to break down the team’s biggest moves. Davidson discusses the decisions behind trading Connor Murphy, Jason Dickinson, Colton Dach, captain Nick Foligno, and Aidan Thompson and what those deals mean for the direction of the Blackhawks moving forward. Hear directly from Davidson as he explains the strategy behind reshaping the roster and what comes next for the Blackhawks as their rebuild continues.
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Welcome, everyone.
First, I'd kind of like to start by just acknowledging
three really special veterans that we had here
that we've moved out in the past couple of days
in Jason Dickens and Connor Murphy and Nick Flean.
I think there are some people that have certainly left
a very strong, positive, and impactful mark
on our organization, our city, and a lot of our players
that will be here for a long time to come.
And so I just can't thank them enough for their professionalism,
their play, their dedication, and everything
that they brought to the organization.
Also, I'd like to acknowledge Colton Doc
and Eden Thompson, who he moved out in the last couple of days,
really hard workers, young players that
are kind of starting there.
I'm still early in their professional journeys,
but I'm really excited to watch them
continue their careers elsewhere.
And then I'm excited to welcome Andrew Manjupani
and Derek Pooley out to the organization as well,
and I'm excited to see their contributions
over the coming years.
So again, I think we accomplished some pretty strong acquisitions
in terms of future assets and players
that can serve a purpose here with us over the next little while.
You know, it's tough to see really amazing people move on,
but I'm really excited for all of them
and their new opportunities and what they're
going to be able to experience over the next little while
here.
So with that, I'll open up to questions.
Was this trade deadline just as a whole, you know,
we've been talking to several GMs?
And you know, was it seemed a little more quiet overall?
Just, you know, what would you attribute that to?
I don't know.
I honestly don't know what I'd attribute it to.
Perhaps the ability of teams to hold on to players,
maybe players are more locked up in terms of their obligations,
their team, beyond this year, less UFA's coming up.
I'm not sure to be honest.
Perhaps around the league seemed a little bit quieter
certainly today.
For us, it was seem business as usual.
Just, you know, you have your conversations
and your exploratory talks in some cases.
But so it didn't really change much on my end.
And I wouldn't say the volume of calls in and out
was any more or less than any other year.
And so, but, you know, around the league,
it maybe seemed a little more quiet than normal.
But I honestly, I don't think I have the answer on why
that is.
Two players you brought in both of them.
What was the bottom line?
You know, I think in Andrew's case,
certainly there was a cap component there.
But he was someone that we dug into both on and off the ice
and did feel like he could be a good fit.
I think we're getting a very motivated player.
You know, I think he can bring some tenacity
and some, you know, some, he's been around this league for a bit.
So a little bit of veteran experience.
So he certainly sent a lot out recently.
And so I think he can provide there.
But, you know, I think there's a lot to prove for him coming in.
And we're excited to give him that opportunity
to show what he's got.
I know it didn't go as he had planned this year in Edmonton.
So I think, you know, a fresh start for him
will be really healthy.
And we're excited to give it to him.
With Derek, he's going to join up with Rockford right now.
And, you know, Derek's been around pro hockey
for a number of years now.
And I think he can bring a good veteran presence,
log some minutes.
We've called up a lot of defense from Rockford over the last
little while and, you know, haven't provided them
with a ton of help.
So I hope that can give them a little bit of a boost.
And then he signed for next year as well.
And, you know, I think we're going to have again
an influx of young talent more so upfront.
And so a veteran on the back end, especially one
that's adept at moving pucks up to those young forwards.
I think it's something that was important to us.
It would probably be something we're going to look for
in the summer.
And so got a little bit of business out of the way.
Obviously, you know, it came at a cost in Aiden.
But, you know, you have to give something to get something.
And it's kind of help, bro.
Moving out your entire leadership core is fairly unprecedented.
What made you believe that now is the time for the young players
to step up and take over those roles?
Yeah, you know, there's, we did move out
a lot of leadership.
But I think we still have a lot in that room.
There's a lot of good veterans still in that room.
And then, you know, we've got a lot of emerging young leaders.
You know, Alex Lask has been around this league a while.
You know, and then we've got some guys that know what they need
to do to win and know what they need to do
and what the team needs to do to keep progressing.
And I think it's an opportunity for a lot of young players
to step into the void and continue progressing
their own leadership capabilities and developing their voice
in the room.
And so, you know, I don't necessarily fear
for the lack of leadership.
I think it's there.
It's just going to come in a different form now.
And I'm excited for a lot of those young guys
to find that voice and find that next bit of contribution
that they could, you know, they had some really, really good
positive leaders to learn from over the last couple of years.
Both that we've, you know, moved out now,
but even looking back to the last couple of years,
you know, they've got to learn from guys like Paddy Maroon
and Al Gmartina's and, you know, the guys that have even
come before them.
And then, obviously, Murf Dickie and Nick.
So, you know, they've seen what it's like they've
seen what needs to be said at the right times.
And so, it's time for them to start, start either vocalizing
or through their actions, taking charge of the room.
And it's going to be opportunity to do that over the next,
certainly over the next bit of this season to finish off.
And then, you know, we'll see you how the summer goes.
But it's their locker room now.
And it's time for them to take over and say what needs to be said
when it needs to happen.
So, I'm excited for them.
And I think it's a good bit of opportunity for them
to grow into that.
Kind of piggyback off of that.
Conor Bedard has the aid for the rest of this season.
Sure, there's a captain C in his future.
Just how have you seen him kind of develop
that leadership capabilities?
I mean, you know, he's already the face of the franchise
and kind of developing those leadership abilities
and what he was learning from those guys
over these last couple years.
Yeah, I think, you know, with, again, whether it's Connor
or any young player, it takes time to get comfortable
in this league.
And there's a lot of feeling out process and understanding
where your place within that leadership structure is.
And I believe this year coming into this season, Conor,
you know, we obviously saw his play.
But it just his voice and his ability to command that room
and, you know, be a presence within the room.
I think really took a step forward.
And you just, you feel it when you're around him.
You see it, you know, when the group's kind of hanging out
around the rank or on the road.
And, you know, he's a guy that people gravitate towards.
And so, you know, I believe you'll continue to grow
in that respect and find his own leadership style.
You know, everyone's different.
You know, we've had a great example of, you know,
the leadership at the top of that pyramid
with Nick over the last number of years.
And, you know, whoever steps into that spot
or takes on a little bit more of that lead role
is not going to be Nick.
It's going to be, I'm sure, a different style.
But equally as effective, I'd assume and expect.
And so, you know, there's going to be further growth
because, you know, still young player
and he's going to figure that out.
But you can just see the comfort in that role
of growing over the last years.
So, but, you know, we're fortunate to have a number
of young players that have either played leadership roles
in the past with their teams, but who have also matured
into players that I think, you know, others can gravitate
towards and look to for guidance and times of need.
So, I think we're in a really good spot there moving forward.
A lot of fans have seen the vision with your reboot so far
and with that comes some fans I have so concerned
about the future.
Well, what would you say to those fans
that kind of don't see eye to your vision as of right now?
Well, I can't really address every quibble
that someone might have with the vision,
but, you know, what, like, I think that's natural
in any, you know, I think there's probably teams around the league
that the fan base is asking to get younger.
And when you're younger, they're asking to get a little bit older.
And so, you know, like, that's, that's fandom.
You know, that's what happens.
But, you know, I think that whether, again,
whether people want to hear it or not,
we're committed to a vision here.
And we've picked a path, we're committed to that,
and we're going to execute within that vision.
And so, we're continuing to do that.
We're continuing to, you know, I believe in these young players.
I believe in this group of young prospects
that we have coming both here and not in the NHL.
And as they continue mature, as they continue to get
comfortable and develop into the players that we see them becoming
and we expect them to become in this league,
that's going to drive our team's success.
And that doesn't mean that, again,
it's only going to come from these players.
Like, there's opportunities along the way.
I would hope and expect, you know, in the future to add
and inject some more talent, you know.
Again, but, as I said before, like,
we can only deal with what we know.
And we know all these players coming in.
We know these players coming up.
And we believe in them wholeheartedly,
not just with the rose color glasses
that they can get us to where we want to go.
And so, that's the vision.
That's what we're committed to.
We believe in that.
And, again, we've got a ton of young players in the way.
We've got a ton of draft capital that, you know,
is there for us to use moving forward.
And so, we're positioned very well.
It's something that doesn't happen overnight.
We're such a young team here.
We're such a, you know, for the most part,
quite an inexperienced team in the landscape of the NHL.
And so, that takes time.
And that's not easy to come in and just be great right away.
Especially when you have it at every position
for, you know, in our team, especially on the back end.
You know, it's a tough position for young players,
but we're seeing steps.
We're seeing improvement.
We're seeing what we need to see
to believe that we're on the right path.
I know, in the past, you've used the additional
future draft assets to kind of move into the back half
of the first round to go out and get more of a player
that's kind of in a tier.
But to a mess, draft pace in 27, 28,
are you hoping that one day maybe you can use those
to kind of go out and get an impactful type of player
that can help surround some of these players
in the long, that fits the long-term vision too?
Of course, yeah, and that's not something
where we're, you know, necessarily married
to only happening down the road.
Like, those are things that we explore.
We have explored.
We have, you know, attempted.
And, you know, there's the reality of it
is that the really good players,
especially really good young players,
are so hard to shake loose.
It's just, it is what it is.
And it's natural.
It's understandable.
But it's something you were always trying to do.
And so we've got the ammo to continue
to explore those avenues and try and acquire talent.
And so, you know, with the future in mind,
with the growth and understanding where our gaps may be
and where we may need to add in the future both
in the short end, you know, long-term,
based on when we have drafts.
We got them for the next number of drafts.
We're well positioned for that.
And so, you know, and so it's something
that you have to plan for and be prepared
to execute on if the opportunity arises.
And what we can control is being prepared.
And we are prepared from that standpoint.
And so we've got the capital.
We've got the assets.
It's just waiting for the right window
to open to act on that.
But again, we can't act if we're not prepared.
And so we are prepared.
You want the last season by adding an absolute
I guess from college, do you envision that possibility
to see such a well-bearing coming over
or if not the last season ends early enough
for the league play in any joint season?
Yeah, they could, again, these are conversations
that we're going to have once their seasons are down.
We don't want to wish an early end to any of their seasons.
We hope they have a ton of success wherever they are.
We want, with our prospects, always telling them,
like, just be where your feet are
and have as much success as you can in those spots.
But it's certainly conversations will have
when they do finish up.
And then we'll see what direction they want to go.
We don't normally set those things up in advance
unless it's very time-sensitive, you know,
especially for example, like Orion Green last year.
We had two games left, I think, when his season ended.
So you had to act very quickly.
So it had to be a bit of prep work in advance.
But you know, we try and just leave the player to play.
And then when the season's done,
we have those conversations with them at that time.
And so a little too early to say,
but I think you'd be disingenuous to say
we won't have those conversations with those players
when the time comes.
You got the two deals with Edmonton Dunn earlier
than Wes and Edmonton?
Were you intentionally trying to get in front of things
and be a little bit early?
Or was it just the right timing for both sides?
Yeah, a little bit of the right timing.
I'm also someone that, in my preparation, in the lead up
for something like this, I like to know what I want.
I like to know what my thresholds are
and where my line is on when I will do a deal,
when I won't do a deal, when I'll wait and when I'll act.
And so both certainly, you know, we got what we wanted.
You know, I guess you always try and re-evaluate.
Like, could we have held off longer
and got a little bit more?
Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe that all goes away.
I don't know.
But we go into every conversation, understanding
what we want, knowing we want to get out of it.
And if that is met, then we'll do it.
And if it's earlier, great, if we have to wait on that
and we get it later, then that works too.
But I'm of the belief that if there's something to act
on, you act on it.
And especially, you know, the other thing, too,
is there's a personal component here
where with Murphy and Dickie, I wanted to give them
an opportunity.
And the last thing I would want is to, you know,
hold out for a little something more,
like just a little bit more.
And it dry up and they don't get to experience something
like that, not that they asked to go out or anything.
But, you know, in exploring the market,
this was a great opportunity for both of them.
And so it was something I didn't want to wait around
and have dry up.
You know, it did necessitated action.
And so we took it.
But I'm not big on, you know, waiting to wait.
If that sets the market, that sets the market for better or worse.
But I'd rather get a deal done with a return
that I'm satisfied with ahead of time
than sweat it out and not either go sideways
and you lose something or you just wait for the sake of waiting.
I don't necessarily believe in that either.
So with that, with a guy like Billy McKay
and him also being a unrestricted free agent this summer,
was it a matter of that package that you
wanted to get back?
Wasn't it a matter?
Was there some, maybe, a lot of things
to completely strip all the free agents out?
Yeah, probably a little bit of both.
You know, I look, I think Mickey is someone that,
I want to keep Mickey around.
I want to keep him around.
I really like what he brings to the team.
We really appreciate him organizationally.
I think he plays a big role for us,
not that anyone else didn't.
But I think he's a player we really like to have in our own.
And we like having as a black hawk.
And so if someone was going to approach us,
they had to make it worth our while and compel us to act.
And that certainly didn't happen.
And frankly, I'm glad I didn't have
to make a tough decision there.
Because I like having Mickey as a black hawk.
He's a good guy, a good family, and we value him a lot.
And so we're happy to have him around through the end
of the season.
And then we'll see if there's anything there beyond that.
But I think our intention is to get
with his representation and try and see if there's something
there.
But that's where the business takes over.
And we'll see where that goes.
But that would be our intent is to play out the year.
And then we'll see where the future goes.
There's nothing new on that front.
It's just someone that we would like to bring back
because we do appreciate him.
But that's the business side that we'll
have to hold tackle in the future.
So after the kind of work future,
I think there was a lot of assumption
that it was going to create an opportunity for Kevin
or Chansky yesterday to set down under two games.
Where does he stand with the organization right now?
What does he say about giving his future to the committee?
Yeah, no, well, look, Kevin's a 21-year-old defenseman
that I think is, if you ask me, if he's
going to benefit more from popping into the line up here
or playing big minutes in Rockford,
it would be playing big minutes in Rockford.
And so that's where we see his development best served right
now.
And so that's why we did it.
I think we also want to get a look at Ethan here.
He's certainly got a lot less NHL experience than Kevin has.
But I think it's just we need to get Kevin minutes
and keep getting him minutes because we have seen some really
nice strides, and we want to keep that positive momentum going
into the off season.
But we're big fans of Kevin.
He's got a ton of upside, a ton of ability.
He's still raw.
He's still getting into the pro game and learning
through that process and that development process.
But he's someone that we really like.
We have a lot of time for.
And again, going to Rockford is not a punishment.
And it's an opportunity to keep growing your game
and be ready when the opportunity arises.
And that's what we expect of him.
That's what we expect of all the young players in Rockford
is that they're staying ready.
They're committing themselves to their development
and making the most of their time with the ice hogs
because it's time well spent.
And we've got eyes on them every single day,
watch every single one of their games.
So it's not like they go down there into a black hole.
They're never seen like we're there.
We've got hands on and eyes on them all the time
watching and making sure that they're taking the red steps.
And we believe he has this year.
And we wanted to keep taking that positive step.
But we also don't want just bodies hanging around here too.
So if there's development left to be served,
then you go to Rockford and keep working on the development.
That's what you seem to do.
Awesome.
No, with the left snog, he certainly
had some ups and downs and the big blast talk to you.
How would you evaluate his season overall?
And more recently, how would you evaluate how he's
responded to that, like, room over in the lineup
for him if they're before the break?
Yeah, I think when you do something like we did with Artie,
where we took him out for a number of games,
almost had like a pseudo training camp with him.
And that can go one of two ways.
They can embrace that.
They can dig in, or they can pull back.
And maybe they feel bad for themselves
or feel frustrated and Artie dug in.
He went full throttle into the development opportunity
that was presented.
Did everything we asked him?
He went back to Florida.
And I know he did a lot of grinding over the break in Florida
and came back.
And I thought the game in Utah was one of his stronger games
that we've seen.
And so again, there's a level of volatility
with young players, especially young players in the NHL,
where sometimes you lose that confidence
or you lose that module a little bit.
And it's hard to get that back.
And so it's our job to figure out what's best to get that back.
Sometimes that's rock-ford.
Sometimes that's just sitting out in the NHL
and with a little breather.
And with Artie, I think we determine that in his case,
it was best served here in the NHL with our coaches,
with the development staff up here.
And I believe he's responded very well.
Now, is the ebbs and flows you get with the young defense
and in particular with young players in general.
It's not always a linear upward trajectory.
Sometimes there's little dips.
But you hope that in the aggregate,
it's there are gains that are being made.
And I feel there certainly have been both
from a defensive physicality standpoint,
it's puck movement, just comfort level on the ice.
I think coming out of the break just looks a lot more settled.
Some of that has experienced.
Some of that is a little time out, frankly,
from a long grinding season.
And I'm really excited about the way Artie's
trended and certainly when you look where he was
a couple of years ago, to where he was a year back from now.
To this point, I think it's constant improvement,
constant upward trajectory.
It's maybe not constant upward trajectory.
But in general, it's the arrows definitely pointed up.
And so we're really excited about that.
And we think this guy's willing for this kid, so.
With Badar, has there been any recent contract
boxer and you expect that to be end of the season
conversation at this point?
Yeah, we'll handle that after the end of the season.
The end of last season has changed the feeling
of the whole year where we're just
so proud of the young players.
It's like, well, what were these last 21 games?
Is there anything you'd like to see or anything that
I guess you could give it somewhere in the summer vibe
for where you would have a complaint?
Yeah, I think, again, it's funny, right?
It's nice that we ended that period with some positivity.
And that's certainly great.
And I think that when the offseason
at a really opportune time for everyone,
but that's the ebb and flow.
It'd be nice if we hit a high point towards the end, right?
And I'm just excited to see some of these young players
take on a little more opportunity, a little more
ownership of the season, right?
Now that Murphs moved on to Edmonton on the right side,
we'll see Louie already in Sam, all the same time, right?
Third line center, we'll get the test a couple guys out there.
Now that Dickies with the Oilers, and so there's
some really good opportunities for guys to jump in,
grab hold of, and then as you asked earlier,
there's perhaps the influx of more young players
coming down the stretch here.
And so there's a lot of exciting learning
that we're going to do, organizationally,
on some of these players.
Some exciting opportunities for those players
to jump into and grab hold of and show
that they can perform in those certain roles
and take hold of those for spots moving forward.
And so I think there's a lot to watch,
a lot to pay attention to, and a lot to be excited about
from a youth and opportunity standpoint.
And so hopefully that translates into some nice results
down the stretch and some good success
for some young players to build on
XZ in the season and going into the next season.
Conor's talked about the motions of going through trade deadlines
and be a team that is selling at the stage of the season.
Do you worry about that, wearing on him going through that?
Knowing that it's more of a long-term process
to get to a point where you're adding
end deadlines rather than selling?
Honestly, I'd probably worry more if it wasn't bothering
guys, to be honest, because I think that would reflect
some sort of disengagement from the group.
I don't think anyone's pleased about being sellers.
I don't want them to be.
I think that's something that they've got to feel
and they've got to take not only into the game,
but into the off season and do everything they can to individually
and then combine that into a collective effort
to make sure that we're just not in these spots moving forward.
And you don't know what the future's going to bring.
But I think it's a healthy thing to be that invested
in your teammates and in your group.
And love the group that you're working with every day
to the point where unfortunately when the business side
of the industry takes hold and guys do move on
that, you do feel that.
Because we want that close-knit group,
we want that investment from everyone and each other.
And I think we've seen that over the last couple days.
And obviously, these are great people
that we're moving out.
And it's understandable why the players and the staff
and the organization and the fans would be disappointed
to see them move on.
But again, that's the nature of the industry
where that stuff's going to happen.
So again, I don't want this to be something we do every single year
moving forward.
And I know the players certainly don't want that either.
But I wouldn't say it's something that necessarily worries me
because I just think it's absolutely naturally
going to locker rooms around the NHL
where this has happened.
And that's the reaction you're going to get.
Or that's the reaction I hope you would get.
And so I think it's totally normal, totally natural.
But also not something we want to live annually.
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