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I was charged with five felony counts, one of the highest count in first-degree
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intentional homicide, reckless homicide, tempted homicide, reckless
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endangerman. You add all the charges up, life imprison without parole plus
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300 years. It's insane. And I feel like when it's such a public case like that,
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they want to make an example out of you. Oh, absolutely. And thank God there were
0:19
people out there fighting for me in the public. In the public eye, such a
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Charlie Kirk. And then what happened on September 10th, I'm motivated me to get
0:27
back into the fight for Charlie Kirk because his voice was silenced and I
0:31
never want to see that happen to another person ever again. Wow, so you you
0:35
were done with social media. You were, if that Charlie Kirk didn't happen, you
0:38
were ready to just quit.
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Okay guys, here at Amfest Day 2 with Collar in house. Let's go, man. How's it going Sean?
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Thank you for having me on the digital social hour. Absolutely, man. This is your
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first time at Amfest or have you been to some of the past? No, I've been to a few
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Amfest in the past. I spoke in 21 right after my acquittal. Charlie had me on
1:03
stage with him. And it was an honor to be able to speak beside him and Jack
1:07
Bolshevik and a few other people. Let's go. How's life been lately? I'm sure it's
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been a lot of ups and downs since that incident. Yeah, absolutely. I'm over the
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past couple of years. I've been a strong advocate for the Second Amendment.
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I recently took a hiatus, but after what happened on September 10th, it's
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motivated me to get back into the fight. I'm stronger than ever because we are
1:26
all Charlie and we need to do over him. Well, not be silent. You said you took a
1:30
hiatus. How long was that? What went on with what? What did that happen? Yeah, so in
1:34
January, I moved to Florida. I originally lived in Texas for a while. I moved to Florida.
1:39
And sorry, I dissolved in my social media as a little bit and just living a
1:43
little bit more private life out of the spotlight. Not getting involved in politics
1:48
as much and eventually moving to Colorado to receive some mentorship from Victor
1:53
Marks and then what happened on September 10th, motivated me to get back into the
1:57
fight for Charlie Kirk because his voice was silenced and I never want to see
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that happen to another person ever again. Wow, so you were done with social media.
2:05
If that Charlie Kirk didn't happen, you were ready to just quit.
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Absolutely. I was done with social media, but then I saw his voice
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kids silenced and it wasn't okay with me. Wow, that's crazy. Because you were
2:18
so in the media every day, you were blowing up and then it go from not to just quitting.
2:23
Absolutely. And then recently, because it's been a long battle of getting back into the
2:28
fight because I want to do it correctly and I want to do it as strong as possible to carry
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my voice stronger, to get people to go out and vote, to be more politically active. So it's
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taking me a couple of months to get there. I created a new ex account and it jumped up to 64,000
2:42
followers and 24 hours. She's 21 million views on my first post and under 12 hours.
2:49
I made that decision right then and there that I'm going to fight for Charlie.
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So you deleted everything? I deleted everything and I'm at 270 on Instagram, 270K on Instagram
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and 64,000 on X. And you're not scared of hate anymore? I trust in the Lord.
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During my little hiatus, I met my wife, my beautiful wife who's sitting right behind you.
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Hello. And I'm just one of the best things I could have ever happened to me and she's been by my side
3:14
through it all. Let's go. Did you meet the dog too, Otis, or Milo? Milo. No, I've had Milo for
3:20
the last five years. I got him after Wallow's still on trial for my PTSD and a couple others.
3:27
Dogs helped with my mental health tremendously. Absolutely. Yeah. Milo is my best friend. I have two
3:32
tattoos of him. I want to just fall one of his face. He's getting excited as he's talking about it.
3:37
He hears me talking about him. He's getting a little excited. I had crippling anxiety,
3:42
mental health depression, getting my first dog. Actually, I wouldn't say cured, but it helped a lot.
3:49
Absolutely. I mean, there would be times where I just want to sit there and break down, but because of
3:54
my dog, he'll just cheer me up and he's there for me and he's specifically tasked trained to help
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with my PTSD. Yeah, that's incredible, man. You had such a tough fight at a young age too.
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Absolutely. I mean, it's life, but God only puts obstacles in your way that you can handle.
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Did you have good, because I know you went on Tucker's show. Did you have good guidance,
4:12
good mentors guiding you through the process? Yeah, absolutely. One of my biggest mentors is
4:16
Mark Richardson, of course, your opposite. They're my two attorneys. I live and die by their advice.
4:23
It is there are some of the closest people to me. Natalie Whisco, one of my other attorneys,
4:28
are some of my closest advisors and I take their advice to the heart.
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Incredible. Yeah, because you were facing some serious time, right? Some serious charges.
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Yeah, I was facing life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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And how old were you? I was 17. Oh, my God. Not even an adult yet.
4:43
Yeah, no, I wasn't an adult. I was charged with five art, originally six counts, but I was
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charged with five felony counts, one of the highest counting first-screen intentional homicide,
4:52
reckless homicide, tempted homicide, reckless endangerment. You had all the charges of life
4:58
in prison without parole plus 300 years. It's insane. And I feel like when it's such a public case
5:03
like that, they want to make an example out of you. Oh, absolutely. And thank God there were people
5:07
out there fighting for me in the public, in the public eye, such as Charlie Kirk. He was a big
5:12
disorder and advocate. Yeah. I mean, when I was going through my trial and Tucker Carlson and
5:19
other people that helped push the truth, Jack Post, the big being one of them. And it was just
5:25
incredible to see the amount of support. And I don't want to say right-wing media, but the
5:30
conservative leaders in our country actually pushing back against a less, less narrative,
5:36
because there are so many, so much disinformation about my case that people still don't know anything
5:42
about. I feel like alternative media has really helped. Yeah, alternative media, such as your so,
5:47
the digital social, yeah, digital social hour is pushing on there are other things for people to
5:54
see because nobody believes in the news anymore. Nobody wants to go watch CNN or MSNBC or any of those
6:00
communist news stations. I'm I resorted to watch and podcast to get my information because to be
6:06
honest, that's where some of the most accurate information is because unlike certain journalists
6:11
that go to school for journalism and work at these big news stations, you actually take the
6:16
time to research the person you're talking to or about the issue you're talking about. Yeah,
6:21
like a lot of journalists that are reading off a teleprompter for what Mr. Soros is telling them
6:26
that Mr. Soros now Mr. Soros is buying some podcasts. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, I did see
6:31
that. He bought the you know the hot one show where they eat the wings. Yep. He owns that one now
6:36
and a few other big ones. Well, that just shows because he's saying that people are more influenced
6:41
by podcasts instead of news media. Yeah, there's way more down there. He's trying to get his
6:47
foot in the door for podcasts. That's why we need to stay strong as conservative leaders and just
6:52
keep pushing and fighting against that left wing narrative. I know he's sent some major outlets
6:56
against you. I know you used to do a couple of them. Trump's suing a few of them. Yeah, what they
7:00
did to Trump was insane. I'm charging him with felonies throwing him in prison. The election fraud we
7:07
saw is just honestly one of the most disturbing things I've seen in history. Yeah, part of him
7:14
he's like kind of thankful that he's present now and not then honestly because I think he ended
7:20
up working out. Absolutely. I mean, we see a lot of people see what happened with Trump and
7:25
Georgia and Fulton County and other in Florida or how they went after him politically and that
7:30
radicalized a lot of people. They a lot of people are just fed up with how the narrative was being
7:36
pushed and how he was being targeted just because he was running for president wanting to do the
7:40
right thing. Did you get to talk to him about that Trump bondage being targeted by the media?
7:45
Yeah, so I've actually never spoken to president Trump about that issue, but I have spent some time
7:50
with him specifically after my acquittal. I got to go to Mar-a-Lago and had a private meeting with him.
7:55
That's incredible. It was really an honor just to meet him and spend some one-on-one time with him
8:02
and he is one of the nicest people I've ever met. I've heard that a lot. Yeah, man, he is one of
8:06
the most genuine people as well. I don't say that about a lot of people, but he truly is extremely
8:13
genuine and what you see is what you get. Yeah, which I'd rather have a straight shooter than
8:18
some politics. I mean, you had Joe Biden-Auto pen who had no idea what he was talking about and
8:24
then you had Kamala Harris who was running for president, but I don't know if you saw the new
8:29
polls how Trump who legally cannot run for another turn, is that 5% of Kamala Harris, is that 4%,
8:36
I find it hilarious. She wants to run again, which is crazy. I don't think there's a snowflake
8:42
chance in hell that she wins an election. New someone beat her, I think. New someone beat her,
8:46
but we need to get JD Vance elected in 2028. Yeah, I want to see that Vance new some debate.
8:51
That'd be a good one. Yeah, that would be a good one. Because new some can talk, Hayden, I love him.
8:55
Yeah, I think it would be a good debate and I think we'd learn a lot, but I know I've watched
9:00
some of Gavin knew some interviews and he does speak well, but you see the communism in California,
9:08
so he may be a good speaker but he's a terrible leader. Do you think California has the worst
9:12
gun laws in the country? I would say they're definitely up there. If I had to say some of the worst
9:19
gun laws in the country would have to probably be New York. New York has some of the tightest gun laws
9:25
they have some of the yeah, it's a lot easier to get a gun in California than it is in New York.
9:33
Okay, they're pretty up there and I would just recommend not living in either of those states.
9:38
And because they're so strict to get guns there, what are their gun violence stats? Do you know,
9:42
like yeah, so you look at the stats of like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco,
9:48
they have the highest murder rate per capita and then you look at other states such as
9:54
like Texas and where people can have guns and defend themselves and people are less likely to
9:59
commit crimes and less likely to commit violent acts if they think the person is armed,
10:05
not even knowing if the person's armed but just think violent attack is less likely to occur.
10:11
That's why it's so important especially for young women, I mean my wife, I tell her she
10:15
doesn't have a choice, she carries a pink glock 43 acts every single day, but especially
10:20
women these days, they need to be strapping from. She's 49, 95 pounds, there's no way she's going to
10:28
be able to fight a 6 to 200 pound dude 100% and she needs an equalizer and a 9 mil is a great equalizer
10:35
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10:40
it's called the light system. Before you roll your eyes, it's not some gadget you strap on or
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10:49
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11:03
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11:07
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11:12
their environment and honestly the science behind it is fascinating. As I've seen a lot of
11:16
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11:21
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the lightsystems.com and use discount code Sean. Another shooting on a campus today, do you think
11:49
campuses should have more armed security? I think, so if you look at Texas, we have campus
11:55
carry in Texas. That was a build I was recently passed, we have a license to carry, you can carry
12:00
a gun and Texas college campuses. I haven't heard of any campus shootings at any of the colleges in
12:06
Texas. I may be wrong on that but as of reading from when it happened, I do not believe there has been.
12:15
That's interesting. That's very interesting. That's very interesting.
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shootings at a Texas campus since that has happened to mass shooting. But then absolutely I think we
12:26
need to put armed securities in our schools and are everywhere with our colleges. We need to
12:33
protect our children because why are we protecting politicians with guns but we can't even protect
12:38
children with guns? On a college level, it makes no sense to me even high school but you're paying
12:43
so much in taxes and tuition. In certain states, you're just paying for them to push the trans narrative
12:49
and other narratives against other people. Why can't we do that to hire some veterans to protect our
12:54
students? Let's give veterans some jobs. Absolutely. A lot of them are dealing with mental health
12:59
issues when they get back. They got no work. Absolutely. I know hundreds of veterans that
13:04
be willing to volunteer their time to go and stand guard and watch over the children at school because
13:09
the children are our next generation. We're in our generation right now and we're our current
13:14
voices but we have a new generation up and coming. Do I think there's a lot of problems with
13:22
the new one coming up? Absolutely. It's quite funny but we need to protect them. We need to guide
13:28
them in the right way. For sure. What do you think of the Bondi beach shooting in Australia?
13:33
A couple days ago. Look, if we had guns I could have been. If there were guns in Australia,
13:37
that could have been neutralized a lot quicker. That is the one where the guy came up and on the beach
13:42
killed like 11 people. Yeah. Two guys. Yeah and it just shows people that want to commit violence.
13:47
They're going to commit violence. They're going to get the tools necessary and it's not fair to
13:51
private citizens and other people to not have the right to protect themselves because that's exactly
13:55
what it is. It's not having the right to protect their own lives against a mad man with a gun
14:01
who's trying to take everybody out. So, like I said, the best thing to counter something like
14:06
that is an equalizer and a nine-millimeter is a great equalizer. It blows my mind that people
14:10
are still trying to ban guns. Yeah, I mean, look, the second amendment's in place to protect the
14:17
first amendment. So, I don't understand a lot of the gun bands. I think it's a political narrative
14:24
and I think it's just to try to turn us into China, Russia, or another communist state and slowly
14:30
disarm us. Mao took the guns, Hitler took the guns. Yeah. They're trying to take the guns from us.
14:34
The government would have even more power if the guns were bent. Absolutely. And I am a limited
14:40
government person. Same. So, the more power the government has, the less safe we are, the less right
14:48
to a half. It's also not going to stop guns being out there because look at the war on drugs.
14:53
That was a fail. Yeah, absolutely. The war on drugs, the cartel, there's always going to be violence
14:57
and guns out there. You're not going to remove hundreds of millions of firearms off the street.
15:04
It's just not realistic and it's not even in the realm of possibilities. You see in
15:10
Chicago and these other liberal states, they do these gun buybacks, but none of these gun buybacks
15:15
work. Really? There's still violence. And honestly, a great trick is to just get a bunch of cheap
15:20
receivers and 3-D print them. Yeah. Take them to the gun buyback and get your $50 gift cards.
15:25
That's the best thing. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, you get 3-D print a gun and it actually works.
15:31
There are, with certain filaments, you can't 3-D print a firearm. It's not difficult.
15:36
There are certain laws pertaining against it. I know you can also buy build kits like 80% arms. You
15:42
can buy a 80% arm and they're completely legal in some states to have a un-serialized firearm
15:49
as long as you build it personally. You keep it as you've got it for yourself. Now, you brought
15:53
up 9 millimeters a lot. What about the assault rifle debate? Do you see any issue with those?
15:57
Well, we don't have assault rifles in this country unless you're military or have an FFL. We have
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semi-automatic rifles. For semi-yeah. Yeah. Look, a semi-automatic rifle saved my life without one.
16:08
I wouldn't be here today. I think it's a tool that everybody should have the right to use. I hunt
16:14
with, I pick hunt with AR-15s, 556 and sitting at home right now in my home defense rifle is an AR-15.
16:23
It's a tool. Got some land, huh? I don't have land. I have friends with land. That's a trick. Don't
16:28
buy land. Get friends with land. What do you think that's a good self-defense for the house?
16:33
Gun. For me personally, that's what I prefer. I would say use what you're comfortable with. Get
16:39
training. I'm shotguns are always great options, but that is just what I personally have for my
16:46
in the digital era with all the haters. I need to get some training for sure.
16:50
Hey, come out to Texas. I'm a licensed firearms instructor with the SCCA now. Get some
16:55
lead down range and get you trained up. Let's go, baby. Yeah, I need down there. It can't be too
16:59
safe these days. Absolutely. You walk in the door. It's on site, right? I mean, it depends on where
17:06
you go. There's certain areas I won't go. I won't go to San Francisco without security. I won't
17:10
go to Chicago without security. Especially you. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I get countless
17:16
death threats each day. Still? Yeah. Wow. It's been like five years. I mean, we saw what Ryan
17:23
Sheed that liberal said that day. How are you? I'll read it to you. He tweeted it. He put out a
17:29
tweet that I never heard of. He's going to be searching for me, looking for me at Amphus.
17:35
What is here? No, no, no, he's not allowed in here. Wow. That's so fresh. Yeah, it's 100%
17:42
at the right, but his compulsive disorder of being obsessed over me hundreds of tweets he's
17:47
ever posted. You got to get a restraining order. It's clinically insane. The violence he's pushing
17:53
against me and other people that are here is diabolical. Yeah. He has over I think 300,000
18:00
followers on X and those are all people he's pushing towards me to cause violence. Jesus.
18:05
Him putting something out. We're going to be looking for you. Coward in the house.
18:09
It's not just him saying he's going to be looking for me, but it's him mobilizing other people
18:13
that come and look for me and potentially cause harm. That's not. I mean, look at who killed
18:17
Charlie, right? Absolutely. I left this. Absolutely. I gave furry lover. Yeah, we got to be.
18:24
There's a SSRI link to my shooters, too, didn't you see that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we saw what
18:29
happened in Nashville and saw what happened with Charlie Kerf, these trans shooters. We saw
18:35
some of these Trump shooters, the two Trump assassins who were tied to these left wing
18:40
trainees. It's all trans-related. We need to scan the trans. We need one fight back against
18:49
the trans agenda and two. We need to protect our children and just outright ban it because
18:53
one is discussed and two is not bad before. You think the trans movement is like a mental health
18:59
issue? It's 100% of mental health issue and I feel bad for a lot of them because I believe
19:03
that they got the help they needed. They could be better humans in society and contribute
19:10
a little bit better and we wouldn't have to worry about them potentially trying to assassinate
19:13
us. I know my, so this girl I hooked up with in college changed her gender and I highly
19:21
think it's just the environment she was in. Yeah. I went to a liberal college and people were
19:26
supporting it. Well, funny stories. I was reconnecting with one of my close friends from Illinois
19:32
other day and he was telling me about someone we used to work with that he was dating and she went
19:38
to a university of Illinois and she was taking an arts class and she was one of the sweetest girls
19:44
you'll ever meet and then she was indoctrinated by that college and now she thinks she's a dude.
19:50
Oh my god. Yeah, so these universities are dangerous basically. Yeah, I think the first step is
19:54
polling funding for any universities that push this narrative because look we're here to get
19:58
an education not learn what our gender is because God decided that way before we were born.
20:02
Yeah, and there's some in Cali that will like really promote it, right? Yeah, I mean in some states
20:07
I'd probably get thrown in prison for saying what I'm saying. I know in some countries and like
20:12
specifically the UK I'd probably get thrown in prison for saying what I'm saying. Oh yeah,
20:15
UK is, I don't think I'll ever go there. Yeah, I was supposed to go there for an event but
20:20
I don't think I would go to the UK either. I'd been invited to speak that college out there
20:27
and do a debate and I just did not want to go to the UK. I know it's two people. There's one
20:32
at this event that's been detained as soon as they landed in the UK. Yeah, I can almost guarantee
20:38
if I went there I'd be probably detained almost immediately. You do a lot of debates though.
20:42
It depends. I speak at a lot of universities for a turning point. I've gone to Memphis which was
20:50
a very interesting event because a lot of people at the University of Memphis it shows that they
20:56
go to University of Memphis and they can't really debate. It's interesting seeing the narrative
21:02
that some people try to accuse me of. There's people that think I've killed black people. There's
21:06
one lady that I'm in Texas when I was helping out with an Andy Hopper race. Fear in Texas go vote
21:12
for Andy Hopper in the primary election by the way but what's saying I killed children and
21:17
not a lot of people know the back records of the people who attacked me what they're who they
21:23
were as people and what their history was like. Well people only remember the first headline they see.
21:28
Yeah, even if you get cleared what you did they don't remember that. Yeah, they read black lives matter
21:34
rally not BLM riot. Mostly peaceful but fiery protests and I'll tell you I was there who's a war
21:43
zone. I mean BLM since been exposed since you are your incidents so I feel like you've been
21:48
vindicated. Yeah, I mean I'm still being sued for $20 million. By who? By the families of the
21:54
deceased. What? Who attacked me? Five years. Yeah it's been five years and believe it or not we
22:00
just actually had traction the last a week in this lawsuit. They've been drawing on after for
22:05
five years of them just demanding a bunch of nonsense and I'm sure this is going to get played
22:10
in depositions and they're going to ask me about the questions on this interview but look I'm not
22:15
worried I defend in myself and it's all on video and I have no money for them to take. That's
22:20
unreal bro. BLM literally got exposed. I mean we saw the fraud with BLM we saw the leaders
22:27
buying mansions and taking all the money and not actually using it to support black people.
22:32
No. It was really a disgrace to the entire movement. Dude it was what they did. Honestly I donated
22:40
it because I believe it at the time. Yeah I mean absolutely black lives do matter. Everybody's
22:45
lives matter and it's equal but I think it pushed a lot of black people to the right seeing that
22:50
get exposed. 100% being completely honest. Yeah it made them look worse honestly. 100%.
22:55
But dude thanks for your time. I'll be supporting you. Where could people find you and
22:59
go? Yeah all my social medias are written house 2a. You can find me there. It's awesome.
23:04
Thanks for your time. Thank you for having me with Milo. Thank you. See you guys.
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