Kyle Shanahan and Rich Eisen Respond to the Criticism of the 49ers' Draft

Finally, the Niners are taking control of their draft narrative.

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Welcome to 49ers on S I live presented by prize picks where your hosts, the editors

of 49ers on S I grant cone, Jose Sanchez, we're doing like a special emergency incident

reaction to Kyle Shanahan's 15 minute interview with Rich Eisen today.

The draft didn't go so well for the Niners in the moment, but that was like days ago and

now the Niners are the big winners of the draft because they have done it all out media

blitz and there have been so many Rich Eisen's out there who've been willing to help them,

which I think is wonderful and generous and speaks to the human, you know, heart and

how generous people can be.

I love that because I'm the most generous person that I know, Jose's number two, Jose

hour you don't know, I just can't help but contain my laughter about after what I just

watched.

I mean, Rich Eisen really pressed Kyle to be fair.

I mean, he was like, what are you talking about, man, how can you say this, but Kyle,

we learned a lot.

So why don't we start with what we learned and then we'll get to our skepticism later.

Maybe Kyle Shanahan explained how he scouts.

I thought this was really interesting.

You should check out.

He doesn't watch the interview yet.

Check it out 15 minutes.

He says he doesn't watch college football until February, as we know, then what he does is

he gets all of his position coaches to make highlight reels of the top 200 players in

the draft for him.

Then he watches the highlight tapes.

And if he doesn't like the players highlight tapes, he doesn't want to see anything else.

He writes them off immediately.

So to get Kyle to like a player, his position coach has to make a killer highlight tape.

And then for those two months between February and March, he watches all the highlight tapes

and inevitably falls in love with certain players.

And then the Niners have to figure out how they want to navigate the draft board to get

Kyle Shanahan's crushes.

He said that, right?

Yeah.

No, he said that.

I don't know.

I don't know if you or anyone else watching this ever remembers that MTV show called

next, where it was like a form of blind dating.

So pretty much with Kyle Shanahan's like the guy or the girl was waiting for the prospect

to hit his table.

He's like, all right, here's the prospect coming out.

Here's the highlight tape.

And in that moment, he's going to say, next, I don't like anything in this highlight

tape.

Or is he going to be like, I'm intrigued.

Let's go on a second date.

Let me see more.

Let's go to the next hours I can figure out what's going on here with this guy or girl.

So that's that.

That's just the cynical mind.

I just had just listening to that.

But I mean, look, when you're a guy or you're a coach who went deep into the playoffs

because you division around fairly deep, right?

It's not like you went all the way to end, but still you want to play off game was how

much time does it really have number one?

And then number two, I think it's already been, it's been known for years that he's not

overly fond of the NFL draft and the whole process, right?

He said it, right?

He was like, I don't like watching college football.

This is my least favorite part of the year.

Yeah.

I mean, even, I mean, look, even before, even before this year, he has said something

up to that.

He's like, I'm just glad I don't.

And a press conference, a post draft press conference, well, I don't remember which year.

I don't know if those five years ago or four, whatever the point is, he has literally

on the record.

He has said, like, I'm just happy.

I don't have to watch any more college film because I mean, look, you think about it.

It's like, bro, I just got done with this heartbreaking playoff loss.

And now I have to like debunk with the season and now turn the page instantly in a snap

to college football.

This sucks, but it comes with the territory, you know?

I think it does kind of, it just, it just reaffirms the idea that these guys do tend to

reach in these drafts and because they kind of have a lock on target.

It's like almost like auto aim for those video game nerds out there like me.

It's just, you just auto him to the sky like, wait, I like this highlight.

Say, let me see more and more.

I like it.

I fall in love.

And he did a lute to it.

He's just like, you just fall in love with these players.

And that's just the way you end up, you just end up progressing through the draft.

And like, I want this guy.

And I kind of felt that way when they got struggling is that we love this guy move down.

That feels like a steal like we don't care who else is going to go down and we'll be happy

with it.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the way maybe Schneider or how he roseman draft is like, we're cool with

a range of players here and our coaches will work with them.

Kyle seems like he locks in like, I have to have this one second round wide receiver.

I can't have Jeremy Bernard.

I can't have Denzel Boston.

I have to have Dejon Stribling, which means if everyone thinks he's going to go at 58,

then I'm going to take him at 33 to make sure I get my guy because God frickin forbid.

And here's the thing with so interesting, like, I love, I love Kyle for doing this interview.

He should have done it with me and you, but he did with with with which eyes and he was

very forthcoming, which was great.

And I think, dude, the highlight thing is so telling like, how do you end up with Ty Davis

pricing round three?

How do you end up with Tracerman around three?

How do you end up with Joe Williams in round four?

Well, those guys had killer highlights because Ty Davis price had a 300 yard game in college

and Joe Williams had a 300 yard game in college.

And Tracerman had an incredible game in the in the college football playoffs.

Like, you can wow Kyle Sandahan with a highlight, like, one good game, one good year, like

Caleb Black had a great year last year.

What did he do before then in college?

You know what I mean?

It's like, I think Kyle Sandahan could sort of fall for these one game wonders or one

year wonders.

And then he all of a sudden has this like super crush on the player and the whole organization.

What are you going to tell them, man, who we weren't?

Yeah, this circling back, I've said even two weeks ago, like, what is it?

Why you don't want to see the 49ers draft?

Why receivers on day three is because they don't really know what they're looking at.

The process is very flawed.

And also, if you were going to draft the receiver, do it early because, hey, the future

of the position, right?

So I get the position at that moment, I get it, draft because there's again, there's

no future.

Like, what are you going to do?

This kind of goes to it.

He sees, struggling in just his overall process.

Like you mentioned, Caitlin Black, he sees more of the immediate need than like, can I look

at longevity?

Like, okay, maybe he can help a little bit now and then be better later on.

I just think he just looks for who's the most finished project right now in college that

I can get.

And that's, that's, that's always a coaches fall.

That's not necessarily unique to Kyle Shannon, either like other coaches like mess up

that way.

But for him, it's just, it's just over and over again.

That's where I'm not really so banging the drum on, John Lynch just got to go because

it's like, look, it's not like Lynch is doing this without Kyle's approval or hearsay,

right?

Especially in the first three rounds.

My understanding was just by my like, studying of the team is Kyle Shannon, first three

rounds.

He's on it.

And then after that, he kind of like checks out a little bit or maybe he's just like, yeah,

yeah, cool.

If you want this guy, that's all good.

You know, that's how they end up drafting was it Jalen, what was his name?

I'm Jalen Dugger.

Jaden Dugger.

Cause probably KJ right, you know, like put through his name in a hat.

He's like, hey, I want this guy.

So I mean, I mean, I mean, look at last year, last year didn't feel so much like a

college and draft.

I think they deleted deviated power to Robert Salah a lot.

Yeah.

And I bet you that maybe that was under the table thing like, hey, Robert, he wants you

back.

He's like, well, I want some head coach say, okay, we'll give you the draft, just

what?

I don't like the draft anyways.

And it turns out this might be, that might be like a fairly solid draft.

Maybe not necessarily like stars or greats, but a lot of quality players like, okay,

cool.

They can fill out a roster.

Antiquated system to just be like, hey, I'm the GM and I'm going to turn over all of

the drafting responsibilities, decisions to my coach, who's going to turn over the highlight.

Like he's going to ask his position coat.

He's not going to watch college football.

Wish he shouldn't, man, he's he's coaching the NFL.

He's not going to turn on any tape until February.

And then the tape he's going to watch is highlight reels made by his position coach.

I mean, like, look, I'm sure that led to George Carroll and Fred Warner and there have

been some successes.

It just seems like over 10 years, it's clear that that process isn't really as efficient

as what Howie Roseman's doing and I'm sure it's not, I mean, because Howie Roseman,

all he does is watch college film 24, seven every day of the year.

He's not like catching up in February.

He's not asking position coaches to make him highlight reels.

I just don't, I don't think you can be one of the better drafting teams in the league

if that's your process.

And the question is, does it matter?

Does the Niners have had a lot of winning seasons?

I think it matters because they haven't won a Super Bowl and that's, that's what you're

trying to accomplish and they haven't accomplished it because it's a massive one draft or two

drafts went like just relatively well.

Then maybe they do like when that one's more, maybe they do have those less, they don't

have those fall offs in 2020 or especially 2024, right?

Because what happened at 24 people allude to the injuries like, well, guess why they couldn't

fill out?

They couldn't win games.

They didn't have depth.

Why don't you ask?

I think season in retrospect, man, yeah, you lost McCaffrey, but you had held the people

including your quarterback and you won six games, dude, damn.

Yeah.

And even then to this day, like the injuries played a part, but it's not like the injuries

came out once, like 2020, 2020 is like the most like, okay, yeah, that one, I'm down

if you want to say injuries, right?

But 2024 was like, yeah, so it's like, what are you going to do?

But 2024 was like, there were injuries, but none of them were came out once until maybe

like the last quarter of the season, last third.

So like they were always having those issues and it kind of goes back to it.

Why aren't you going for these players in the draft that it just becomes when you become

in draft into this clone as minded, like I want this guy and nobody to know here say like,

what if there was like someone that fell to them that they didn't really study enough

and turns out it was a great fit, but because he fell in love with say, struggling in this

case or black, then you can't really open your eyes, open your mind to whoever else is

there for you to drafts.

Yeah, agree.

Like maybe not a wide receiver.

Little Kennedy said beyond me, why we don't draft a starter need offensive line.

Yeah.

No one ever asked, maybe I should have was like, Hey, okay, we've been talking about reaching

in consensus board for all week, what about, why did you, why were you so locked in on

a wide receiver with the first pick?

But we don't know that for a fact.

One of the things he said in this interview that was interesting is that struggling was

not plan a with their first pick at 27.

They didn't want to trade up because they want, they didn't want to give up any of their

six.

Like they only had six picks.

They wanted more picks, not less picks.

So they didn't want to trade up, but they did hope that someone with the first round

grade would drop to 27, IE, struggling does not have a first round grade, second round

grade.

So he said that there were a couple of people or one or two, I guess that they were hoping

would would drop and didn't.

And I'm getting, I'm asking you, who do you think those players were that were a plan

A?

I mean, but or if it was just one, who do you think their top guy was?

Dylan.

They didn't draft a safety, though.

Malachai Lawrence, who went to Dallas and Casey, Concepcion, who went to Cleveland.

Yeah, I'm right on board that it's Casey Concepcion because like, that's the guy who I thought was

a perfect fit.

Now, he just, he was a good player, but I thought it was a great fit because of what they

need.

And look, he doesn't have the blocking like a stripling does, but I'm sure Shanahan's

thinking like, I need playmakers and if like he has vast playmaking ability with the

ball in his hand, that's where everyone keeps saying about stripping where it will.

This guy is better.

And he has a cleaner route tree like he has more expansive and he's crispier.

Obviously, the drops are concerned, but I think you can work on that and they brought

him in for a 30 visit.

Yeah, and they brought him in for a 30 visit.

He did not bring in tribling.

They said he was too busy.

So yeah, so I think Concepcion made sense and like, I just, but there were three spots

away.

So I'm sure like, by the time, like, even I was like, no, wait, Concepcion going to be

there, bro.

Is he going to be there?

Because I was going to start victory laughing like, oh my god, I actually got to pick,

well, pick right for the first seven, six years or so, whatever long it was, but I think

that was our guy.

And obviously, when the brown stick emits, like, damn, like, now we got to go to plan B.

Now we got to go to plan B.

And that's where we kept secret in the world that the Niners wanted Casey, Concepcion.

Everyone linked him, linked the Niners to Concepcion.

Um, did that because I saw a bunch of, I saw Lincoln's must be a lot of dumbass didn't,

but I feel like most people that like realized the Niners wanted to take a wide receiver,

like Casey, if they take Casey, that's a great pick.

And I think the whole lead knew it.

And there was probably no chance they were going to make it.

He was going to make it.

It's 27.

I think it was pretty obvious to lead people knew like, why receiver was on the table,

for sure.

Um, but they also threw out offensive lineman.

Maybe that changed once Trent William science three, four days before that, right?

Because it was literally just seven, eight, nine, ten days ago that he just signed that

extension.

So I think almost if you're the foreign errors, maybe you're in that situation, you

probably tell, hey, Trent, let's release this news next week.

So we can just lead thinking we're going for offensive lineman.

Maybe the Browns think we like to reception on, maybe then I don't know.

Maybe we can wait.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's just the better information you hold together, the better your chances are,

it should just be like, we got the guy we definitely wanted.

There was no one jumping us.

And that's what the Rams did as stupid as I think it is.

But it's like, hey, at least I didn't get the secret.

No one saw a coming, which adds to the like the WTF fact.

They're like, whoa, who saw that coming?

Great job holding on to that secret.

So it looked like conception was the, was the first choice.

They don't get them.

Then they trade down to 30 Kyle says on this interview today that they would have

taken, struggling at 30.

They liked him that much, but they showed restraint, traded down to 33,

considered trading down again to 39 or 40, but ultimately were too worried that

he weren't, what wouldn't be there felt that would be 50, 50 at 39 or 40 and

admitted that they draft that they reached in their eyes about 10 picks for

Dejan Stribling, who, who, and they feel like that's not really a reach.

And they said, like what he said was, Stribling originally was presented to him

as a guy they could get at the end of round two.

That's how we popped up on his radar.

And the more he watched him, the more he fell in love.

He developed a player crush, which he always does.

I mean, he didn't once upon, once upon a time would not say, Pettis, this time

it's Dejan Stribling.

So now it goes to here's a guy, here's one of the guys we would like

at the end of round two, two, here's a guy we have to have.

Here's a guy we would be willing to take it at the end of round one.

But let's drop back to the beginning around two to take that's how he ended up

with Dejan Stribling, Kyle Shanahan fell in love.

That happens.

Yeah, let's say that it's a guaranteed fact.

Like, Hey, me, you stepped at this door and it says, Hey, Stribling was going

at 44 guys or 45 and it's like, you told me that like, so they reached for 12 picks.

That's fine.

I mean, like, yeah, it's a little reach, but that's fine.

I think when, initially, when I hear Stribling, I'm like, who?

Like, I remember barely reading over his profile.

Like, I spent more, no more than five minutes on this guy.

I just think like from everyone who's smarter than me, from all the friends I know,

who cover like, who are like draft analysts for like, least report or whatever

out list, they're just like, what was that?

Like, I did not expect them to be there.

And of course, it kind of goes to like, like, Shanahan said, like, Oh, what are

you media guys know?

We're like, what the hell?

Like our board and it's like, well, I mean, it's a lot more hell than you guys

know, considering your history, especially the last five years.

Like, my thing is when, when Shanahan saying like, Oh, he, we were going to go

at 39 or we were present some at the end of round two, but we took him in the

beginning because we feared someone was going to take him at like 36 or 37 or

whatever.

And it's like, do you guys even like, can we actually even like trust that that

was your guys' thing?

Like, maybe you believed it, but it's flawed because why do you have so many

whiffs and misses in the last five years?

So I'm not going to really, like, I'm going to believe what they say.

Like, I understand what you guys thought, but I'm not going to believe it was

right because of what you guys show us.

And maybe this pick and everything is smooth.

And it's like, wow, this guy's a great wire see for two, but still that

doesn't like negate all the history that that's giving us cause for

criticism and just concern of like, where are you guys doing?

Because you're the guys who made your bed in the first place.

It seems to me that when you give the head coach all the personnel power in

the draft, and he spends two months looking at film and is mostly highlights,

what he's going to do is create a short list of players.

He looks, he's not going to go into the draft being like, man, this 70 players,

I like, he's going to be like, this, there's like 15 players I like.

And probably at each position, it's not that, it's not that deep.

And so if we're right that he wanted Casey,

Kasey Concepcion and didn't get him, then he's probably thinking like, damn,

man, if we don't get Dijon struggling, there's like no more wire receivers.

I like. So let's take him now, even though we would have been cool,

taken maybe like Malachai Lawrence at 27 and then wait,

maybe, maybe getting Dijon struggling at 58, we got to get him right now.

And it's, it's, my question is, are you sure he's going to be better than Denzel Boston?

Are you sure he's going to be better than Jeremy Bernard?

Because you could have traded down to 39.

He said that and let's say Stribbling isn't there,

which I think there's probably a good chance he would have been there.

But let's say he's not there and you end up with Denzel Boston or, uh,

who's the other guy I said, Jeremy Bernard, Jeremy Bernard.

You don't know that those guys are going to be worse than Stribbling.

Keep it set himself like with these players is 50, 50 anyway.

I mean, it was, it was his grade that much higher than those guys that you had to do that.

I, that's why I wish the Niners would be a little bit more like polygamous.

Why do you got to be, you got to have, they just, they lock in, man.

Why can't you, why can't you like multiple people?

It's probably a dumb thing to say, but it's like kind of how we all treat us.

I fantasy draft, like you kind of have your pool of players like,

I'm going to take this guy here.

And if they're all gone, then yeah, I'm just going to have to go to the next section.

But I think also to maybe even take his side is this NFL draft class was regarded as very,

very, very poo, like, very bad.

So I mean, so yeah, exactly.

So I think honestly, if he's watching film, like, imagine how many knows he said on the

highlight phone, he's probably like, no, this, this just sucks.

Cause honestly, like, I said it, I said it before even the last two or three picks,

maybe even earlier that this draft class is going to be the epitome of

we're never going to know what it is.

Because bar injury, we're not going to know what these guys are.

I mean, stripling probably, I mean, how much snaps is tripling going to get this

year to be honest?

Like, even, look, even I said, Casey accepts on if they drafted them, like,

I can see the conception of getting like 35 catches, 40 catches and like, you're

one, like, how much is tripling going to do?

Like, all this hype up, like, yes, he's a blocker.

But then now if you use them too much as blocking, it's predictable.

I guess what's running down?

Like, you're going to

register him until someone gets hurt.

That's my prediction.

He's not going to play until someone gets hurt.

Yeah, and even then, he'll have to show that he's better than Jordan

Watkins, who knows the system better than him.

He's going to have to learn the system and we'll see how long how long that takes.

I think they're all the way out and most two guys,

cowing for sure.

Cowings did, man, walking.

He's similar.

Boas, Garendo and then Watkins is probably on the fence.

I mean, this is I mean, they have to.

They'll keep the Marcus Robinson and play him over.

It's freaking stripling.

Because you know, whoever knows is ready to go out there and execute.

Yeah, Charles and Charles Lemp 1987 says we need a new wide receiver and

D line coaches.

Most first and second round picks nothing to show for Bosa.

Yeah, I feel like they were better at drafting and developing wide receivers

when their position coach was a welker.

As we know now, like position coaches are very important on the Niners because

they're shaping the opinions of the people drafting the players.

So Leonard Hankerson, we're looking at you, buddy.

Bill Kennedy says Lynch needs to be kicked upstairs.

Need real GM.

Again, this is very much a Kyle Sandahan issue.

Notice who spoke today, not John Lynch.

Daza says, even if stripling wasn't there, who cares?

Wide receivers of future need, but this year we have Evans, Peersault and Kirk and

Watkins, who we haven't seen yet.

Olin and safety is more of a need.

I think that's a great question.

I feel like it's, they've been, they've been able to sidestepped the answering

it because everyone's so focused on reaching.

I think the reason why it's also a breeze is because look, it's pick 33.

This is a fringe first round pick.

You're kind of, look, it's not like top 15.

You're not going to get like an immediate impact player, but maybe someone

to meet like good, like offensive line starting guard.

It's like, hey, this plug and play still good, still good starter, like

besantist, whatever you pronounce is last name that the Cardinals took a pick

after.

I just thought, but it was like a tough position again, like being there

because it's like, who are they, who are they going to get in this draft?

The draft was lacking, but of course, like you want to move down more and get

more bang for your book and reach for a player like him.

All right.

So we talked about how he wasn't their first choice.

Probably was Casey gets absent.

How they ended up with him in this, in the first place or in the second place

as a plan B, this was so interesting.

Then he starts talking about Caleb Black because, I mean, I feel like Dijon

is struggling a lot of people have come out and be like, actually, actually,

actually, there was some rumors that he was rising.

Maybe he was a smoke streamer.

Maybe it wasn't.

Maybe the media just didn't know and the league knew.

That's what Kyle said, essentially.

But then you go to Caleb Black.

It's like, yeah, but what about the running?

Everyone agrees that was a reach, right?

And so Kyle could have been like, yeah, who cares, right?

Oh, but what he does is double down in a way that makes him Kyle.

So any hand, and I love him for it.

And he's like, you can see, like, should I say it?

Should I say it?

And he's like, I don't know of a nice way to say this.

But we actually had him number two on our board, which is like, if so fact,

though, we had him ranked higher than Jadarian price, who's the starting

running back for our rival.

And to me, it's like, man, get out of here.

What are you kidding me, dog?

You really, first of all, why'd you say that publicly?

Second of all, like, how did you allow Caleb Black to be a head of Jadarian

pride that was silly, man, silliness?

What do you think of that?

Um, that I believed him because like I told you before off screen,

I think college just watched Caleb Black's playoff run, college football playoff

run because that's when he was terrorizing defenses.

He looked good and like, not saying like, I feel like you can tell Kyle right now,

like, you know, Caleb Black's 24, right?

And he'd be like, what, what?

I didn't know that no one told me that.

Sorry.

So I think that, so yeah, I do believe him.

I do believe when he says they had number two, because he just watched him

and like, what was Notre Dame doing in the playoffs?

Oh, they were at home.

So I mean, and then also he's probably thinking like, well, they had had Jeremiah love.

So this guy probably like was maybe reaping the weaknesses of him, you know,

watering down the defense.

Some like that were black.

I literally saw him against Miami, like all these tops, up these top two defenses.

And he was playing strong.

He was running the ball strong.

So that looks great because it's like, hey, guess what's NFL, that's NFL competition.

So that, that's not nothing.

Of course, that should help him, but I just think again, like, yes, you're right.

That is the reaches of reaches.

Everyone wants to talk about struggling, like, struggling is a problem.

No, but Caleb Black's the one I was just like, oh my god.

I was literally here three, four weeks ago with you where I said, get, I told

everyone get ready for running back.

It's happening, but I said fourth or fifth around.

I did not think a third round.

I thought those days were over with.

So and even if you get Caleb Black in the fourth round, I'm still thinking like,

that's rough because I personally like Jonah Coleman better, Emmett Johnson better

of Nebraska, like other running backs before you got to black.

So they liked him that much.

Then it's because you literally saw him, you know, be a force in those playoff games

against Ella for NFL caliber players.

And you think he can come in and be that relief guy from a referee.

So that was the thing that was just killed with me.

I just, I just couldn't get over it.

Second best running back in the draft.

Why would you say that?

He's now you put even more pressure on him because people said he was a

reach and just been like, you know what?

We'll see.

Yeah, I understand that a lot of people.

We liked him a lot.

No, no, we actually thought he was the second best running back in the draft.

We think Jadarian prices trash.

And they said like, well, okay.

So we gave him a third round grade where we took him, but we thought he was

going to go in round four.

So we took him in round three.

Okay.

Okay.

And it's like, what if you did, what if someone took a man?

Would that be the end of the freaking world that you didn't get Kaelin black?

There's no other running backs in the draft that you like.

Miss prospect or something like that.

Yeah.

That's the only running back.

Like if you had gotten Jadarian price, you would have been like, damn, this sucks.

We missed out on Kaelin black, who wasn't even the number one runner at

Indiana last year.

What are we going to do?

Damn it.

I look, I love Kyle Shanahan for doing this interview.

And I thought he was very open.

And I think he has a great sense of humor.

But like some of his answers is like, I wish I could follow up on that.

What number?

Huh?

Huh?

Did I miss here that number two?

He was number two on this team.

I mean, the way he was listed, right?

But it's kind of funny.

They'll start running back for the end.

I went undrafted to the Raiders.

So that's the, that's a little bit of the wow factor.

How many clips from his James Madison days were in three minute highlight

clip that you watched and fell in love with?

How many catches were in his highlight clip that you fell in love with?

He for sure was only told about past catching a James Madison.

Here's his clips from Indiana.

And he's like, damn, he's doing this against Miami.

He's doing this against the top.

Like, what the hell?

Like, I like this.

And look, also, go ahead.

I was just going to say like, look, what is, what is Kyle Shanahan saying?

That's the second best writing back.

They, they, they, they sat not in the draft class, even mean.

It's like, and it's echoing the same sentiment I had on the previous topic.

It's like, wait, you guys think he's second best running back?

No wonder why you guys suck at drafting running back.

No wonder why you think he's second than Dan.

That means he's guaranteed to be booty like, come on.

Like, like, look, once again, maybe, maybe black is serviceable.

Maybe he's a great starter for years to come.

Well, in your history is tie Davis price, trace sermon.

Isaac Orando, Jordan James, I think it's a fair follow up question for him.

That rich eyes should ask like, Hey, I understand that you went out on a limb

and you aren't, you know, influenced by consensus and you just run your evaluation.

And if your evaluation says that Caleb blacks the second best running back,

then that's what he is.

But like after miss after miss after miss and misevaluation after misevaluation,

don't you sort of go back and be like, damn, maybe we're like evaluating wrong.

And maybe we have to evaluate how we're evaluating because it keeps giving us

these ridiculous rankings that are hurting our team.

I mean, we haven't gotten it right yet.

So when this algorithm spits out,

Caleb black, we're not going to be like, man, no, absolutely not.

We're going to go with the consensus board here. Sorry.

Well, you know, it's funny when my cousin was like,

it's like, hey, tell me about this guy and I kind of tell him.

And he's like, so we just drafted a Michael James 2.0.

And I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting.

I mean, so much better than Caleb black in college.

Well, Michael James was so good in college.

Yeah, this pick is definitely like my, I wrote it by like, this is the worst pick.

I think the four errors got because a, it's the value.

Like, he was the third running back taken.

No running backs are taken in that draft.

And it wasn't until 80 picks later that then actual solid quarter.

I mean, go back running back was taken in Jonah Coleman to the Broncos,

which, okay, yeah, I see it fourth round exactly where the start of running runs

for running back should have gone.

Like, it's funny.

His logic that he uses for stripling.

Like, like, oh, we were afraid.

Like, if he was going to get picked eight or 10 picks away.

And it's like, that one, I definitely understand more in relative terms

to Caleb black because he could have been there in the fourth round probably

most likely.

I'm confident in saying that, like, obviously, I'm not reminded,

but I think given the way the graph was running.

And this was a fairly mediocre running back class.

This article is in podcasts that listen to where people have said,

like, this is the worst running back draft class I've ever seen in my life.

And I'm like, yeah, outside of Jeremiah love, it's stinky.

And look, there's a reason why it goes.

Jeremiah love, dead, Algerian price, and price is mainly because of the

sea ox.

Need to date, right?

It's like, ah, he's pre-solid core running back.

I mean, what else we were going to draft off?

It's a lie man, defense like, no, let's just go.

Let's just go with this guy.

You know what I mean?

Look, even at 58, like, I mean, excuse me, 58,

like, even before that, like,

the night I was alluded to a safety, like, I'll take into safety,

like, I'll give him a bonus and give him a vote of confidence.

Like, you could have gone safety and then blacked and it's like,

all right, well, maybe the safety fails,

but at least, hey, guess what, we got black anyway.

It's about getting the two for one, the valuation with simple economics.

So you're not overspending, you know, over, over copies, over investing.

I need your advice.

I have my dynasty draft on Saturday.

It's all day.

I'm picking 12 out of 12 teams because I won last year, humble brag.

And like, I feel like the, the tier of good players falls off at like nine.

And so I'm picking between like, probably,

Ty Simpson, Dejon Stribling.

Should I take Kaelin Black with the 12th pick?

What do you think?

There's the second best player, second best running back in the draft, right?

Steel at 12.

I mean, I guess it depends how many games you think,

McAfry is going to miss.

And then is Jaden Jordan James going to eat that up?

Is there going to be like a mysterious undraft for you?

What if they make another running back tree?

You know, like, are they going to actually play Kaelin Black this year?

Because they got so much flack that Kyle say that's going to be like,

also, also, I hope so.

I might take Ty Simpson.

I have Matthew staff.

I feel like the only person that should consider taking Ty Simpson

in a dynasty draft is someone who has Stafford.

I have Stafford, but there's still no guarantee that Simpson ever plays ever.

You know, I mean, with Stafford's back, I mean,

that's the one saving grace.

It's like, okay, with his back, like, I know it was fine.

Surprisingly, isn't it funny?

Like all regular season, he was fine.

But in training camp, it's like, is this guy?

Is Jimmy Crabble going to start week one?

And how that just evaporated?

Was it like, maybe he just wanted to do training camp?

I was gonna say, were you lying?

Let's go on here because I've seen you.

I saw Matthews ever get smacked a good handful of times.

And like, he didn't get up like, uh, my back, you know,

because let me tell you, me waking up today in the bed,

I felt more pain than he did getting off one like, you know,

freaking Michael Williams is laying him on his ass.

Chris Bond, 1697 says, do you agree with Kyle Shanahan,

primary concern entering draft was number of players they would get?

Yeah, man, he says some interesting things.

He was like, my primary concern is that they only had six picks

and they felt like a big win was getting eight.

Also, it was fearful team might only get as few as four players,

trumpet and turning six picks into eight plus 20, 27, six.

Is that as important as a certain, this is a great question.

And I wrote it down and I meant, I meant to make it a topic.

So let's make it a topic was turning six picks into eight.

In a, in an admittedly awful draft, a win.

No, I mean, trading down, them trading down to me made sense on one end

because you want to get as close to aligning the value

of these players as possible as because like, obviously, look,

number one, everyone wanted to trade down.

So the fact that you're going to trade down that many times,

like, okay, cool, solid, but if you're still going for the players

that look like reaches what's the point in the first place,

you might as well, I took in those guys who are maybe more

proven productive players and packable players, at least for over a year.

And look, and I'll answer this topic with another topic.

When I said, like, what, what are three players

are automatics to make this roster this year and not?

Because I think, I think you can look at, look,

the three automatics are going to make it obviously

to Sean Strydling, right?

Kalen Black, even though we have seen them not,

not give running backs that roster even in the first year,

but I think Kalen Black now they have to,

and the third probably were mellow hate because it's like,

you don't have a past regime spell, it's just we need it.

And they want to fill in players that address obviously

that immediate need.

And then the rest, who are the ones that are definitely not going to make it?

It's, I don't see any of those two linemen,

they took it to make it because look,

Carver Willis, you guys asked them Carver Willis

and all freaking caution.

And how was two senses?

Yeah, we're going to try them inside.

And we'll see.

It's like, what the hell?

Like, yeah, he's going to go in the back.

Hey, don't say don't too optimistic about this guy,

who you spent a fourth round pick,

wasn't a fourth round or a third fourth round pick on,

which is, look, it's not like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, okay, we can get something decent that can help us.

But it's like, wait, we don't know.

So you just kind of just drafted just the draft.

Like, you guys went hard draft almost.

Douger practice squad and Rika Cruz practice squad.

Yeah, they said, yeah, you turned into eight picks,

but it's, how many are going to make the team?

Five, six, five.

And Rika Cruz, they said, they didn't mention,

he didn't, Godless said, nothing about his run blocking.

His past blocking is strength.

His work ethic, nothing.

They just said, we like to athleticism.

We like to speed his vertical like, what the hell?

Like, wait, what?

Like, what is this?

A wire receiver or a corner or a backer?

Wait, yeah.

So what you're telling me is this guy is very agile.

He's quick.

So he can get to the spot.

But what you're probably not going to make the team that, that.

Yeah, man, I just don't know.

A lot of these picks are just like, so when people say,

like, well, you can you do better?

Probably, yeah.

Look, have you seen their history last five years?

I think chat GPT could do better.

And you know, it's funny.

I think it can because I actually, I actually asked it.

And I was going to take a screenshot,

but it wasn't consistent with the players.

It was mixing up players this year and last year.

But it did say, hey, chat GPT, what should the four-in-hour take

at 33 or this pick?

Well, given like how much they invested in Brock

Pretty's contract and given like, you know,

the lack of longevity and the offensive line,

it makes sense to draft off his life.

I was like, holy crap.

This makes more sense than the freaking

what these guys are doing.

That's true.

Joe JC says, Kawakami's routine of pretending like it's hard

to understand why we're fed up with years of bad drafting

is driving me insane.

Also, that Mexico shirt goes hard.

Hey, Joe JC.

I have seen, I have seen a Kawakami like, obviously.

Well, he always sucks down to people, man,

because he's on a mountain and he likes the little people.

Yeah, I feel like Lamardy kind of like stole that

from like the Kawakami to do their first

and Lamardy's always flow on that one.

Because obviously it's way 19 when I was first on the beat,

like Lamardy was kind of chill.

But then he was, he was later,

that just like, yeah.

Well, people started realizing Jimmy G sucks.

And then he went like,

he was like, hi, hi, hi, hi.

He went dark mode.

When Captain America throws his mighty shield.

Say hi, me Jimmy.

Don't.

You think of the real Apple Titanic?

Who's Jack and who's the girl?

But I mean, like when you were in such a big part of your like,

job is getting certain people on your podcast.

I feel like it's pretty predictable.

What's going to happen?

Sorry to take a shot.

But it is what it is.

Dazza says, can we see that?

What Garendo and James look like before drafting?

Fuck no, absolutely not.

That's not how we do business around here, man.

Garendo's been eating.

And look, I'm not mad at the Garendo thing,

because apparently he was not that good in camping.

If that picture of him is real,

because I'm even if it looks real,

a hundred percent believe it.

I didn't even a hundred percent believe

the receney, rapal thing,

because I'd never believe anything online.

So later on,

so Garendo looks chunkier right now.

So he's out.

He's done.

So black.

Jordan James almost 26 years old.

It's crazy to me.

That's the only one I can see here.

When you get the league, though,

these guys are just like,

once you get that money and that success of fame,

I'm pretty sure when he went off against the Bears,

that was just like, he just felt like it was peak.

And that's the thing about these players

that it makes sense.

You know, it's not.

It's not.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, Lamont 757 says that they should have gotten

Raiders running back Washington, Jr.

I like him.

Reminding me of mustard,

but they already have Garendo.

So why bringing him?

Let's do a little pause for prize picks.

Paul.

We got NBA action tonight.

We got Denver.

In Minnesota,

how about Yokech to start 29 and a half points?

They've been, they've been holding them in check.

More or less for Yokech.

Gotta say less, right?

Or is he going to,

is he going to break through tonight?

This is the night.

I think tonight's the night.

Tonight's the night.

I like your optimism.

Okay.

Tonight is the night.

Julius Randall 23 and a half.

More or less.

Less, less.

He's not doing that twice in a row.

How about Cameron John Cameron Johnson?

Now let's do Aaron Gordon.

Bay Area legend.

11 and a half points more or less.

He's been kind of hurt.

But

less.

All right.

Cool.

Tim Hardaway.

Would he go?

Bear.

Bruce Brown.

Mike Connelly's old ass.

Mike.

My age.

Five and a half.

Kidding with the five and a half to come.

Less.

He's great, man.

Who would have thought at Ohio State

he would have had this long career

in Greg Odin wouldn't?

I guess anyone who's not Greg Odin

lipping around.

Jaden McDaniel's last one.

18 points.

More or less.

Less.

I'm going to go with the trend.

There's so many Gen Z people named Jaden.

It's incredible.

Who's a raw athlete named Jaden?

Was there someone raw that people just want to name them after?

Because imagine, imagine Michael Jordan in this,

and it's hey,

people just wanted to start naming their kids Michael or Jordan.

Yep.

And then like 10 years ago,

there was every draft.

There were like three shacks

and a code.

But there's never ever a LeBron.

Have you noticed that?

I've never, ever heard of another person named LeBron.

LeBron.

Am I?

I think this is LeBron.

Actually, sounds too blatant at that point.

Yeah, that's you can't.

That sounds way too.

It's like this is my favorite player.

I love this kid.

It's all, ah, this is just too much.

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Hey, all right.

We got more.

We got more.

Got more.

Let's look, let's step back.

We've talked about what Kyle Shanahan said.

Why did Kyle Shanahan do this interview?

I've never,

I can't remember him going on rich eyes

in a week after the draft before to like clarify things.

Because of your fault.

It's your fault, man.

Because first of all,

Twitter social media is already going off

and obviously, Kyle doesn't care about that.

But I think when it comes to that

and then media attention, hey,

create, look,

Warren Sharp literally made an article

because of you.

So I want you right now.

I don't even go that hard.

I want you one question to ask.

Warren went super hard.

Which he's, he's, he's right.

He's valid.

Like look, like consensus or not.

Like obviously it's a bunch of media people

and you just average it out.

Like I get it.

Like I get why you can feel that way.

But hey, when you are hitting

less than 0% of the time,

it's not going to,

so you need to recreate that.

Drake meme where after like the raptors one,

he's like, look around you.

I created this.

So you're going to have to do that.

So it's going to be a sickening

and that's going to get annoying for me.

But you got to do that.

You got to do that because it's a fact.

It's most likely why he's doing it.

He's doing damage control.

I just saw Sean McVeigh do that for Ty Simpson.

Like it's very similar, right?

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

I was angry because backlash,

media star comments on it.

Then Twitter,

the social media.

So when you get the,

the trifecta of all of it,

then it's like,

I got to put, I got to put this fire out.

So Kyle,

Kyle doesn't care if, you know, like people online,

he sees over, he said that for years,

people have hated on them,

whereas the game position,

we're not.

But it's the fact that you and the other media hopped on.

Now it's like, this is pissing me off.

Like, hey, like,

what's up guys?

Like, I mean, he even like three,

four questions later,

like wanted to butt into like,

I think that's because that bothered him

because obviously I think number one

because he saw like, oh, you pissed off John.

That's my boy.

So now I'm actually like,

because I think I think that's why he's like,

it's one thing if I can piss off on the coach,

but you I've never seen John answer you like that.

So I'm pretty much, he wanted to go tell you to go after yourself.

A thousand percent.

So yeah, I think I think it's damage control.

It's PR.

It's like, hey, guys,

because he has never, never, unless I'm dumb.

In the last and 20s,

that's our governor's team.

I've ever seen him do an interview

immediately days after he does a pick.

Maybe a trade-lance one,

but that's like, okay, like how excited are you?

Whatever.

That's like a big prime subject,

but nothing after that.

But here's the thing though.

I feel like the reason this all became so big

is because

same thing with the Rams and Tisimson.

Like McVeigh was not prepared for that moment.

It's like, yo, man,

people's minds are blown

that you drafted Tisimson.

It's not just what you say right now.

It's how you're sitting there,

what you look like.

People are going to read into everything

and he wasn't prepared for that.

So we had to double back the next day

and be like, man, that was so weird.

Why would people over handle it?

I love Tisimson and be like,

I don't know.

And so it's hard to clean up a mess

that you created because you weren't prepared.

And I think that the Niners are the same way.

It's like you walk in all comfortable

on the last day,

completely oblivious

that everyone on Twitter

and like in real life that's been watching this draft,

like man, the Niners

are among the teams reaching more than anyone.

And why are they doing it?

Because they do it every year

and they look at it.

And like everyone's saying it.

And so they walk in like no one's going to ask us about

maybe, maybe not.

But if someone does,

what do you want to say?

You want to say what Kyle said right here.

Like that was perfect.

But they didn't.

They weren't prepared.

And now you got to double back and clean it up.

And you always,

we already remember what John said.

And it's like, it's not as effective.

It's always better to get out in front of these things,

especially when it's so obvious.

If you, if you may,

they always like condescend to Twitter, right?

I mean, it's a great tool

to see what people are talking about

when it comes to you.

Before I'm just saying, don't out there.

I just think it's not like I made it up

like everyone was talking about it.

I just was like, okay.

I'll ask the obvious question.

I guess it is a trend.

It's just like, and look,

the thing is about every night is draft.

I have never felt too high or too low.

If anything, I lean more a little positive side.

I don't try to get,

because I think I'm going to lose here.

I'm probably too positive about it.

Even me too.

Like I think the only one I remember,

I recollect saying like,

we draft Nick Moore and I was like, I hate this pick.

And so far, I look right after one year.

So I don't like that pick.

Still don't.

Everything else is like, okay.

Michael went.

I didn't like Michael Williams.

I was like, is this Cleveland Ferrell 2.0?

Which he's better,

but maybe he did whatever.

Drew still out.

Whatever.

I like that draft.

Hell, when they drafted Jake Moody,

which I also called on this show,

I said like, you know what's going to end up

drafting a kicker.

I didn't say when, but they're going to draft a kicker.

I wasn't even that down on drafting a kicker.

And that's the most egregious thing you can do.

Now I did say, okay, yeah, I'm stupid for that.

But I was trying to really understand

their mindset, their process.

It's like, okay, I get it.

You need, but this year was it's like,

this feels too egregious.

Because now it's like,

where's all of these left and right fields?

Like you're trying to outthink the room too hard.

Like if you do three picks of that,

I get it.

You're not going to,

no, it's saying to do consensus all the time.

It's like, it's obviously,

what the hell do fans and media know?

We're not going to get things right either, right?

But there is a history.

There's a proven track record.

Like I think even Sharp wrote

that when you go so far left and so far, right?

They're out the whole draft.

Not just one, two, three picks,

but the whole draft, all eight of your picks.

Then you're begging to allow

have depth for like the next several years.

Yeah. Yeah.

So Kyle Shanahan cleaned it up,

took control of the narrative.

And I think most people are on the nine or side now

because Kyle did such a good job

in this interview with Rich Eisen.

And I just want to point out before we get out of here

that Kyle Shanahan did the interview with Rich Eisen.

Not John Lynch.

And I would think it's so interesting.

We talk about like,

why is John Lynch here, right?

Because no one really thinks he picks the player.

Like everyone kind of knows, right?

Like, he's kind of a shadow GM,

because Kyle doesn't want the flag.

And he's just here to talk

because he's so articulate.

But it's like, he's not even the talker anymore.

He had his chance to explain the draft.

He gave like two sentences, didn't help things.

And now you got Kyle Shanahan

doing 15-minute press conferences with Rich Eisen.

Coming off great.

And it started at the Super Bowl when he did the pre-game show.

He was great.

And I almost feel like, man,

I think he has a brighter future in media

than John does at this point.

And what does he need John to speak for him anymore?

It seems like he speaks for himself very well.

He's not the 37-year-old.

They hired 10 years ago.

He's damn near 50.

And I think he can explain football and his team better than John.

Just say it.

But also, why did Kyle leave John out there

like talk for like 95% of that?

I was really watching it by day three.

I was like, he barely spoke, gave like four answers

through two days.

And even on day three, he gave like two or three.

And one of them was the short one,

or Carva Willis.

And the second one was like to clap back at you

four questions later.

It's like, why are you listening?

It would be funny if we only addressed our questions

to him at those post-draft press conferences.

Like, okay, John, thanks.

Kyle, you make the picks.

So let's, let's, no, I mean,

also, I think eventually I was thinking like,

how come no one's just saying like,

so Kyle, what do you think about this?

And I think if there was a few times,

people started caching on in there.

But it's like, look, when you, when you make it open,

when you don't direct to anyone, John's going to take it.

And if you say, obviously, hey, John, John's going to take it.

So you're going to have to say like,

hey, Kyle, what did you like?

Like, like, I think Barrow said that about Willis.

So it's like, okay, cool. Thank you.

And he gave this thing.

He's like, oh, what the hell?

Like, so you don't sound enthusiastic, optimistic,

or sound too.

So it just sounds like this guy's just like,

is, can you play inside or not?

No project.

Throw him into the practice squad.

We can ask John, like, why do you like this guy?

What's he going to say?

Oh, man, we were so convicted about him.

We were so convicted.

He's so physical.

He's a great person.

Like, you don't really get a lot of insight from John.

He sounds good.

But I think if you're comparing answer for answer,

I think at this point, Kyle's are more substantive.

And it's not like, I mean, yeah, he still says,

I'm here and there, but not as bad as he did 10 years ago.

I just think he's outgrown.

John, I don't think he needs John to hold his hand

or speak for him or any of that anymore.

I think what he needs is someone to help him scout.

Like the whole highlight method is not good enough, man.

You've got to do better.

And John's not, and in Kyle's defense,

John doesn't seem to be helping.

Like, are you watching the highlights?

So I'm just saying they really need like an expert here.

And John seems to be not.

You know what else?

I wonder how I like this.

I wonder how their scouting process has changed.

Like, I know he gave like behind the curtains look of it this year,

but how's it changed like year to year?

Even five, 10 years ago when you first started.

Because there has to be some sort of trend

where why do you guys suck since 2022 at drafting players?

I mean, 2021 is the last one you guys had adequate starters.

And, you know, players beyond like the initial contract,

like the Armadilla nor the last time you had a pro baller.

And look, we came and throw Brock Pertie in that

because we all know as it's on the record,

Brian Greacy made that pick.

And by that time you're making the last pick in the draft,

no one cares.

No one thought he would be anything.

So that's just like, you struck gold without looking for it.

So that's awesome.

It feels like they took to read Castro fields

before Pertie and round set.

I think the reason they took Pertie there is like,

and we don't want to get an abitting war against other teams

for a UDFA.

Let's just take him now so we haven't.

Yeah, it's like, it's like, and if Greacy's this emphatic

about him, it's like, hey, well, he's cheaper and he likes them.

Let's just see what you can do with that.

Why not? We never know.

And then one thing lists another.

So that's why that's why sometimes it is good to listen

to your position coach, especially on day three, right?

I just threw really one or like, what's your process?

Like, watch this year become like, it really is like, okay,

no more than two players have done anything for them.

But then it's, but then the then people are probably

going to chalk it up to like, look, the draft was bad.

And it's like, well, they could have done,

they could have at least changed the process

the way they went about it.

And I don't know, I just think like the most funniest thing

about this whole, this whole week about like,

slandering, giving them criticism about their draft

are the people who are in defense of the, of the NIRS draft class.

I said, it's one thing, look, it's one thing to say like,

to be hopeful, well, let's just wait and see.

Is it the only thing in a bash me or you or anyone else

who wants to slander the 49ers, criticize the 49ers

about like their process about this draft stinks?

Because it's like, hey, last time I checked,

they haven't earned the benefit of the doubt of any sort of trust

given the last five years.

And you could mention that they're five fifth round picks

that they had success.

What eight years ago?

Like, what's, what's something's changed now?

And it's not working.

And when it comes to that point of the words would be like,

well, they drafted Clay Thompson.

It's like, yeah, man, that was a long time ago.

They drafted Steph Curry.

Yeah, man, that was a long time ago.

Who they drafted in the last five years?

There are parallels to that.

And yeah, and look, it's, and then watch.

The same people were like, let's just wait and see,

like, like, they drafted well or whatever.

And wait until the regular season comes.

Nick Bolster tears as they see, or Chris McCaffrey out for the year.

Caleb Black, average just three yards of carry.

And it's like, oh, great.

The guys you were hopping up, Sam, did they find this stud?

Now, all of a sudden, you're wondering why the Niners

don't have good players, how they get better.

It's because they starts with their fricking drafting.

It starts with their drafting.

Dude, Bobby Turner is Bobby Turner even a good running

max coach anymore?

Like, I was thinking about that.

Because a lot of slack, a lot of slack I've been seeing lately

the last year is like, is Chris Eric even that good?

It's like, yeah, I wonder.

Because when they bring in players who have been in

other systems, they do a great job of that.

But they don't do a superb, a good job

of growing players in their own system.

Same thing with Hankerson, same thing with Forster.

Like, like, is it the players that the system is the coach?

Like, what's Bobby Turner doing?

Like, uh, all of these, all of these Warren's questions.

Sean Ford wins says, does this interview hurt perception of Kyle?

I've not seen it yet, but listening to you,

it seems kind of dumb he admitted this,

especially given the shortcomings, vets are expensive

as opposed to rookies.

No, I didn't take it that way.

I mean, I kind of felt that he was like, he was being

as, um, transparent as possible.

And he said some things that I didn't buy

that I would have followed up on.

And I think that Rich Eisen should have.

But he is such a freaking Shanahan fan.

He probably is like best friends with his dad or something.

I don't know.

But it was clear that he was there to celebrate Kyle

and not actually pressing on anything.

So I don't know, watch it yourself.

I don't, I actually come away from it being like,

okay, I don't agree with the things he said.

But I feel like he has now sort of taken

the role of team spokesman away from John Lynch.

And I'm wondering like, is this like,

hey, John, you really created a mess with that non-answer

after the draft?

And now I'm going to clean it up.

And I'm going to speak for you.

And I don't even want to do this.

Like, this is your job.

This is your one job is to talk.

And you can't even do that.

So I'll do that.

And if these picks don't work out,

you're taking the fall, even though I made them.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

Let's see.

draft time is fun.

The draft time is different.

Crazier time.

That's what it says.

It's fun to get worked up in late April about football.

I like it.

Well, I mean, they give us something to talk about.

So I liked it.

They knew they would.

They knew what they were doing when they made these picks.

They can't walk out and be like, what?

What?

You guys didn't know this was for her.

What?

It's just funny.

Like if our Davis had made picks like this 15 years ago,

the holy, all the media people would just laugh at them.

But the Niners make the same picks.

And people like, well, they have their own process.

Who's to say their own?

Like to me, the struggling pick is so much like the Darius Hayward Bay pick.

Like you like his size and his speed.

He didn't produce much in college,

but you like his size and his speed.

Okay.

Good luck with that, man.

All right.

It's got to teach him route running.

And Kitesh and Keshe making.

Oh, okay.

Sure.

Sounds good.

Why would you call it a cache?

She caught like a alligator.

Call like a dinosaur.

Yeah.

VHB.

Maybe that's not struggling.

But VHB, they took him before a Crabtree.

It's good times.

Do you remember that happened?

Do you remember that?

How old were you when that happened?

I was in college.

How old was I?

We were 14.

When was that 2007?

Nine.

Nine?

I was 14.

Yeah.

I remember thinking like,

oh, they did it again.

They did it again.

I remember Crabtree got taken after him,

but he was so pissed that he insisted on getting paid more than VHB,

even though he was drafted after him and like being held out.

Cause he's like, DHB sucks.

I'm not, I'm not getting paid less than him.

He was right.

Damn, holding out as a rookie was,

that's kind of crazy.

I just just think about it.

I remember.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

It's been told.

Says Taco competition.

Saturday and Santa Rosa.

Come on down at Coopridge Brewery.

I know you like a good taco.

Hell truck started 12.

Do a food review.

Damn for real.

Oh, dude, you're going to.

I would, but Saturday is my high school reunion 20 years.

So I can't.

Is it actually, it is.

Yeah, I'm old as hell.

I would though.

I really would go to that.

And hopefully there's another one.

Let me know.

But I got, I got stuff to do on Saturday.

Jewish guy says West Walker seems like he has gotten.

He has a better eye for wide receiver.

I don't know what he's even doing these days.

What is West Walker doing?

Ever since he got, I think he lasted the Miami for two years.

He's either in college or.

He's with the commanders as a assistant.

He was with the dolphins.

I don't know, man.

Maybe, you know, he has a family.

Maybe it's just too much time.

He was good at his job.

I don't know.

Yeah, he was the only one who could keep Debo Sammy under 220 pounds.

He was like, Hey, man, we will run together.

Let's go.

True story.

That a pretty good close relationship when I

interview West Walker.

Like he always spoke like.

Like he, like you knew, like he knew him.

Like that's someone like you spent time with him.

Like not just at work.

And he wasn't just like a guy that, you know,

Shanahan drafted who knew the system, which is Hankerson.

No disrespect.

Like it's West fucking.

Everyone knows West Walker.

He's a Super Bowl champion, isn't he?

Yes.

Yes.

No, it's not.

He dropped that one pass and that one Super Bowl though.

Just they all got mad.

But then they got divorced.

All right, that's enough.

Thank you very much for watching.

Shout out to Jose and prize pigs and Mike variable

and all the people watching up there.

What a crazy situation that is.

What are you talking about?

Take care, everyone.

Talks about one.

Something.