Kylie & Hannah Einbinder on The One Sport Her Girls Can't Play, Mom Showers & Flipping The Bird | Ep. 32

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Welcome back to Not Gonna Lie, a wave original brought to you by Toyota.

Let's go places.

I'm your host Kylie Kelsey, self-described most unprofessional professional.

You don't even know how true that is.

I'm responsible for four tiny humans.

What?

And I'm an enjoyer of sourdough, if you know you do.

Coming up on today's episode, there's a baby pygmy hippo at a zoo in Kansas that needs all our attention in Doom Scroll of the Week.

I'm also gonna get honest about a very important motherhood topic.

Everything showers.

After that, I'm gonna be joined by the hilarious Emmy-nominated star of hacks.

Her level of Eagles fandom might actually rival my own.

It's Hannah Einbinder.

Should editor Brad put a GoBirds counter on the screen for this conversation?

Maybe?

We're not trying to disappoint.

We bleed green.

Okay.

But first, a couple quick announcements.

First, some of you may have seen the video of me reuniting with my friend Billy at our Eagles Autism Foundation Yard Sale.

That's right.

The Eagles held open practice at the link.

Tickets for $10 a piece.

They are first come first serve seating.

It is a great time.

And also, sensory friendly.

We activate even more sensory spaces.

And every single dollar.

Both at Yard Sale and ticket sales goes directly back into the Eagles Autism Foundation.

We love that.

We love that so much.

Billy wanted me to sign his headphones, but then he decided he didn't want me to sign his headphones.

It's a whole dance we're doing.

We're friends, so.

We're cool like that.

And I can confirm he did get lemonade.

We've also got even more EAF events going on, including our annual Eagles RadioThon right now.

Right now where you can bid on exclusive memorabilia and VIP experiences with players.

You can go to Eagles RadioThon.com to see what items you can bid on.

It's now through August 28th.

One of the experiences you can bid on is a round of golf with Jason, husband, and Sequan Barkley.

That's cool.

Jason doesn't even know that I'm getting really good at golf.

So maybe next year I'll bid on a golf experience with him.

And then I'll show up and be like, surprise, I'm here to kick your ass in golf.

I might do it.

Who knows?

Stay tuned.

Next show update.

Some eagle-eyed real ones.

Notice something.

Let's call it unique about last week's episode.

Queen Emma isn't slick with letting the runtime on this week's episode creep up to 48 minutes.

Now, if you're thinking yourself, maybe 48 is some kind of Easter egg.

It's not.

We're not that slick around here.

Queen Emma is not that slick.

Queen Emma is just being absolutely unhinged.

Queen Emma, do you care to explain yourself?

Hey girl.

Mm-hmm.

Love when we do like this.

I would like to explain myself.

So you and I were having a totally casual conversation about episode runtime.

As we do.

Not sure who brought that topic up.

Crazy.

Yeah.

It just comes up sometimes.

And I said something to the effect of.

Hey.

I think including the ads in the 45.

It's fucking criminal.

Yeah.

You did say that.

And I think you agreed.

I think you caught me at a week.

I think you caught me at a week moment.

I gave you the 48.

Okay.

The fuck out.

All right.

I'll let you get back to your show.

We're doing 48 now.

I'm not pleased about it.

But we're doing 48 because Queen Emma.

She's persistent.

Chat.

Let's move on to.

Can I be honest?

Oh my god.

And in case you were wondering.

We have been trying to.

Include chat in our regular everyday vernacular.

And.

Chat.

It's working.

Oh god.

It was bad.

It's no every time I say it, I feel like my body rejects it.

We're working on it.

Can I be honest?

Last week I gave the real ones my list of small joys I miss most as a mom.

And you all chimed in with some of your own that definitely passed the vibe check.

A couple of my favorites.

We're going to try to say some names.

A list Rogers five.

Having to share my snacks.

Nailed it.

I actually have adapted to putting more of whatever I'm eating in my bowl.

So that when I am asked for some.

I can share and I still get closer to the amount I want.

You still end up with less Morgan raco gang said.

I miss a bedrock day or Netflix binge so bad.

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

Yes.

I would love to put on.

An adult show to binge and not be yelled at.

It's a shame.

Uh, if I could binge a show right now.

Oh.

Oh, where it falls coming is Gilmore girls back in guys.

I binge shows based on the season.

Well, one of my small joys that appeared to hit home with the real ones was my desire to take an everything shower whenever I want.

So today I'm going to get honest about mom showers versus everything showers.

Uh, and everything shower.

I think it's pretty explanatory.

It's when you actually get to shave your legs.

Uh, exfoliate.

Maybe even moisturize after the shower.

What?

Well, dream big.

Uh, that's different from a mom shower because a mom shower is.

Honestly.

Pits and crotch bare minimum.

Pits, crotch, but bare minimum.

For anyone who isn't a parent, there are certain things that you have to do sometimes to be able to shower.

Now, there have been times where it has been me home with specifically Wyatt and I were home a lot just the two of us.

And honestly, bringing her into the bathroom with the entire swing.

Okay.

And the only swing that could get her to calm down at all when she was in it and not touching another human was this giant one.

It was, I mean, wide as hell.

And I would have to collapse it halfway to get it through the doorway of the bathroom.

And then I would have to step over it to get into the shower.

I once brought the pack and play in the bathroom at the shore.

And even if someone else is home in the house, at least one of them ends up in the bathroom if I'm showering.

So.

And they'll stand outside and just yell to me the whole shower.

Like I like we couldn't just have this conversation when I get out.

And the minute I get out, guess what?

No more interest.

I don't, I don't want to talk to you anymore.

It was either out of volume yelling over the water or not at all.

And now this conversation's over.

Let me know if that happens to you because we're having fun.

That's it for can I be honest?

Chat next up.

Doom Scroll.

First up on Doom Scroll.

I know we've sort of become an unofficial turtle podcast.

This week we might be a hippo podcast because there's a baby hippo named Mars proving that mom face is universal Queen Emma.

The clip, please.

Oh, it's a little hippo.

It says us telling Mars it's time to get out of the pool versus his mom telling him it's time to get out.

There's a keeper just shoving his tiny little honey along.

Oh, he's like, oh, mom's giving him the look.

And mom gave him the look.

She came over to the edge of the pool.

She said, you get your ass out of there.

And guess what?

Mars got his ass out of there.

So safe to say.

Posey hit him with the mom face.

That's his mom.

His mom Posey hit him with the mom face.

And I would say 11 out of 10 Posey, you nailed that so hard.

I do like that she went to the extra effort of walking to the edge of their pool.

Like, hey, you see how far I had to walk over here to collect your ass?

That means you better have some pep in your step.

And then he, he's scurried.

He legitimately scurried.

He was like, well, here we go.

I love that so much.

I love that this crosses species.

That it's not just a human thing, that it is a universal mom thing.

If I had to pick another animal

that displayed mom face,

she's not serious.

I'm taking this question.

Did you know that that was going to happen?

I have to say it.

I think a cheetah because their face markings are already giving.

And so to be able for them to just lock in and sort of like cut the shit face.

I feel like they wouldn't nail it.

I feel like they would.

Okay.

Next up, there's a TikTok trend of parents dropping their kids off at their grandparents doorsteps

and pretending to run away.

And I can relate, especially right now.

I might do this with Finn today.

I might.

Nobody tell my mom.

Queen, I'm a Roll the Clip.

Yep.

So she knocked.

She dinged on ditched with the child and the diaper bag.

All of the grandparents that I've seen this trend done on are so excited to see the kid.

They're not even pissed at their child.

All of them have been like, oh my gosh, you're here.

Let me make you a snack.

And honestly, how do I get dropped off of my parents' house and how my mom do that?

I'm just kidding.

If I show up to my mom's house, unannounced, she will offer me a snack, because lollies

is the queen.

I know for a fact that if I left any of our four children or all four children on the front step

of my parents' house that they would just usher them inside and not think twice about it.

But what I will say is I couldn't drop off all four kids because, well, let's be real

because why it would rat my ass out.

She'd be like, hey, so mom's actually, she's around the corner on the side porch.

She would do it in a heartbeat.

She wouldn't think it was like funny or anything.

She'd be like, you got to get your girl, Nana.

Last on Doom Scroll, there's a trending TikTok sound from the other podcast that I can confidently say

is one of the most badass things ever set on there.

And now it's being used by so many women across the sports world, including ESPN analyst,

Mina Kimes, Queen Emma, hit it.

And I think we all know that if there's one thing that male sports fans want to see in their spaces

and on their screens, it's more of me.

It's so good.

Let me tell you, the clip for our audio listeners is Mina essentially on every ESPN show.

And I love this because I'm gonna tell you right now.

Mina would not be on every fucking show if she wasn't absolutely nailing it.

Okay?

So, yeah.

Fact is, Mina, I want to see you on our screens, but I do love this.

I love this audio so much.

I love it.

I love all the women in sports that I have seen using this trend.

Alone Amar, Livy Dunn, Nebraska volleyball team.

There have been so many women who have taken this audio and just absolutely nailed it.

So, men can't use to it.

Suckers.

Coming up, Hannah Eindbinder and I are gonna shout go birds at each other for probably 60 minutes.

So buckle up.

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I'm Starstruck.

Stop.

I am.

I don't, I'm not one of these people who like cares about like the royal family.

Like I really don't.

Like I'm not like invested in the British Empire in any way.

Yes.

You are my princess Diana.

Okay.

And I'm not just saying that because I'm in the jacket.

You are that girl.

I am actually Starstruck.

It's crazy.

Like I can't believe I made it.

Seriously, you are so cool, Kylie.

Oh, no, it has said no one ever.

So awesome.

No, you can't just, you can't bring the heat like that.

I'm sorry.

I'm forward.

Let me try to read sentences and then I will bow.

Okay.

Okay.

She is the four time Emmy nominated and three time Golden Globe nominated actress

from HBO's hit comedy series Hacks.

She's also a stand-up comedian.

You know her from her special, everything must go.

And perhaps most importantly, she's a die-hard life-long Eagles fan.

Who I've been excited to talk to for a very long time.

And of course, have no business.

Hannah, I'm binder.

Welcome to Not Gonna Lie.

And go fucking birds.

Go birds, baby.

Let's go.

Now, I, first of all, have you ever done an interview where you didn't say Go Birds?

No.

I think Go Birds is obviously a tool that we know can mean

a million different things.

You know, congratulations.

You just had a baby.

Go Birds.

Hello.

Goodbye.

Yes.

I'm sorry for your loss in some cases.

You know what I mean?

Like, it can do anything you need it to do.

So I'll throw it in whenever I can.

I love that so much.

Now, before we get into anything else, I do need to start with my own Not Gonna Lie.

My first introduction to you was actually, it wasn't from Hacks.

It was from another masterpiece of yours that made its rounds on the internet.

I believe we have the clip right here, Queen Emma.

Can you roll it, please?

I believe we have had to deal with loss, with disappointment, with anguish, with pain for so many years.

And I think the good Lord are blessing us and bless the eagles.

It hurts.

All our families back in film.

I'm so gladdy.

I'm here, I'm here.

You did.

You did.

You did.

Did it, Brodie?

I tried my names on the back.

Because I'll never be trading.

Never.

Never.

Go Birds!

Go Birds!

Go Birds!

Go Birds!

Go Birds!

That genuinely makes me tear up.

Okay.

First of all.

Who is that sweet gentleman standing next to you?

That's my dad.

Of course it is.

That is my dad.

Of course it is.

You know, you know,

you know that Silverlinings Playbook is a documentary.

You know that being an Eagles fan is genetic.

It is in the blood.

Yes.

You know, my dad, that was a 2018 Super Bowl.

My dad, you know, he grew up in Philly

and he, you know, his dad was from South Philly

and his mom was from South Philly

and they had these seats at the vet.

And throughout my dad's childhood,

the birds were losing.

They were losing bad and they were there.

Every game in the snow, you know, no matter what

and it was painful.

And I grew up understanding that legacy, you know,

and I grew up understanding that pain.

And so I knew what this meant to him, to us,

to our family, to his father who,

and I will say this was not on the clip,

but he did sort of go into the alleyway after that

little spot on the news.

And I watched him point to the sky with tears

and say, this one's for you, dad.

So just so everybody knows what's like, this is,

that we were hammered, obviously.

Just like, no, it was so meaningful.

The sad part is is that I don't know

that it was obvious that you guys were hammered

because I do feel like that is the standard of Philadelphia.

That's right.

I want to clarify that.

That's right.

I think that is the baseline at which we all function.

That's a fact.

That's a fact.

But I do think there is something to be said about,

like you said, you're born into this, right?

Yes.

Not only do you not have a choice,

but you better get in there with a passion

that no one has seen before.

And there are a few prouder moments

with your family members

than the way you relate to each other

and how you cheer on the Eagles.

It's also like, I mean, that organization

really cares about the fans.

Like my beloved Aunt Cindy passed

and my uncle Eddie inherited the tickets

that my grandfather had first at the vet

and then at the link, which by the way,

when they tore down the vet, my dad went to Philly

and he got the physical seats

when there were letting people go get the seats

and that was so cool.

We had the seats in the garage.

And you know, when my Aunt Cindy passed,

like, because Eddie was just always at every game,

like they sent a beautiful message,

like they know their fans and they care about us.

It's probably like when I think about my identity,

I think the order is like Eagles fan, queer,

Jewish, left handed, red head.

Like I think it's above all of those other things.

It's honestly, but I've tried to explain to people

that it's not only what you're born into,

how you are raised, right?

Our daughters have known the Eagles fight song

since they could speak.

Like it was part, it was in our nursery rhyme rotations.

Right.

But also, like it is something that brings together

a community of people.

So like obviously people on the outside looking into Philadelphia

often have a lot of scrutiny for the way

that we conduct ourselves, our attitudes,

I think are part of the problem.

Underneath all of that is a lot of love.

And I just, I mean, it's, yeah,

it is like this cultural thing that maybe is hard to explain

to people from the outside, but you know, we don't care.

We really don't.

We really don't.

We really don't.

Now speaking of the Philly attitude,

I have one more Eagles related clip that I need to play you

because it proves there's zero doubt that you bleed green.

Queen Emma, the clip please.

Oh my God.

You're at a sporting event and the person next to you

becomes raucous taunting young fans.

How do you handle this?

Well, see, I'm the wrong person to ask huge sports fans

really into the Philadelphia Eagles specifically.

The person in this scenario, that's me taunting young fans.

I will taunt a child.

What more can you say?

I mean, that's a perfect summary.

There was a while ago, there was a clip of a little boy

just dropping the double bird and to a visiting fan.

And oh my God.

It's one of those moments, especially

because I have four children in my own

where I'm like, I tell my kids,

like curse words are grown upwards,

you're not really supposed to do something.

If my child looked at an opposing team's fan

and flipped them a double bird,

I would cry tears of joy.

Yeah, just.

I'm not going to tell them to do it.

And I'm not going to encourage it,

but if their soul spoke to them,

if all of the former Eagles fans who have passed on,

God rest their souls came down

and imparted the wisdom onto her

that she needed to double bird and opposing fan,

it would be one of the most beautiful moments

of my parenthood that I can even imagine.

Because again, it is the presentation of aggressive

with the subtext of love.

Yes, I will say that because we have fans,

I've said it so many times that fans

end up having truth serum to my husband.

So they'll come up to him and they'll be like,

I'm a giant's fan.

And I say the same two things every single time.

Number one, everyone has their flaws.

And number two, we can see eye to eye,

the Dallasucks.

That's right.

So like at the, now, if I meet a Cowboys fan,

I have been known to step a few steps away

and take a picture like this.

Because the one person was wearing a Cowboys jersey

and I was like, I can't stand next to you.

You think I'm going to co-sign that fucking dumbass decision?

No, it's not me.

It's not me.

It's not me.

Let me tell you something.

When you made the decision to obviously support your family

and wear the color red, but not wear an opposing team's jersey,

I said, well, there's my representation in media.

There is the person on screen who I can see myself in.

That is the first time I have felt seen

in all of film television history.

Okay, because this, okay, then I can ask you the question

maybe it'll help people who are still having

some type of conflict with that decision.

If you ever put on another team's, even an emblem, okay?

What would your father say?

He would disown me.

Okay.

Thank you.

It's not, it can't happen.

It can't happen.

Now, look, I was born in Los Angeles.

My dad is from Philly.

I have absorbed his tradition.

I am fully in.

I don't wear LA paraphernalia, even though I love Los Angeles.

I'm super proud of LA of the culture here.

My love for Los Angeles is a separate thing.

So you're not gonna, on one day,

you're not gonna wear a jersey.

You got it.

It's not possible.

Here's the thing.

Your love of LA is separate from your sports fandom.

That's right.

My love of my brother-in-law, separate from my sports fandom.

Exactly.

So now, do they intersect a little bit?

Yes, that's what makes us a little inconvenient.

But I have made it abundantly clear to Travis

and I will say it until I'm blue in the face.

I love him and I want him to be successful.

Oh, cool.

But go birds.

No, but go birds.

So as an actor, I got to ask,

yeah, can you do the Philly accent?

I can, yeah.

Okay, and who does it best and why is it Tina Fey?

She's really good at it.

She's really good at it.

Do you think that you could rival her in the Philly accent?

That's tough.

I would never want to go toe-to-toe with the ledge,

but, you know, I mean, I do.

You know, it's funny, my best friend, Emma,

who's also from Philly, but she lives in LA.

She says that when I start to drink,

I start to get more of a Philly accent.

Guys, I'm fully from Los Angeles.

I don't know what it is, but it's like my dad.

I'm just like, he still has an accent.

So I think it is in me in a way that is like very real.

Okay, if you were going to pick,

like if you could hit us with like a,

I'm going to go get a hoagie, go birds.

Okay, I'm going to go get a hoagie, go birds.

You know what I mean?

No notes, you're from Philly.

You know what I'm saying?

It's like, let me fold.

Let's go.

We're going down there.

We're going to go hang out with her and him.

Would you want to go over there?

No problem.

Perfect.

100%.

If you do not, find an opportunity

like someone from Philadelphia.

That's all I'm looking.

Thank you so much.

I got you.

Because I'm sure you understand this.

And I made the, I made the example of Mary of Easttown.

Yes.

For some reason, Philadelphia has this pride,

not only with their sports teams,

but if there is anything related to us,

Silver lining's playbook.

Perfect example.

Beautiful documentary.

I genuinely watching it over and over again.

You're like, oh, that's this diner.

Oh, they're on that street.

Oh, did you hear that?

Oh, you heard the accent.

Oh, I love that he was so obsessed

about where the remote was.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yes.

It validates us in a way that I can't even explain.

And because of that, I feel like you have to get in there.

We got to get in there.

I'm always going, and what if it took place in Billy?

Perfect.

And what if she's from Philly?

I am so pro that and working on it,

like in an actual way, genuinely.

Okay, great.

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I'd love to switch gears a little bit

and talk to you about your incredibly successful career.

First of all, congratulations on your Emmy nomination

for Hacks this year.

That's supporting actress in a comedy.

Thank you.

Now, I know this is your fourth nomination,

but does it get any less exciting every time?

Because that is a nomination in itself is incredible.

It's crazy.

It doesn't feel like it's happening to me if that makes sense.

It's very hard for me to identify with that,

to be like, that is me and that is real

and that is my life.

I find this level of like,

oh, that's so, it's such a bizarre and extreme

and huge colossal thing that I like

have troubled relating to myself.

Because like we make the show in isolation,

we like, it's a totally different experience

than being like out and perceived and public

and all of these things.

That like, it just feels so separate.

Like the work that it actually takes

to make the show every single day

and like the perception just feels like

this alien thing to me.

So it's so bizarre and like hard for me

to even wrap my head around honestly.

But what I think is crazy to me is like

the four time of it all is psycho.

Like I'm like, that's nuts.

Like that is the honor of your continuing to deliver

is what it means.

Well, that's the athlete mindset.

I'm like, let's get those knees up.

You know what I'm saying?

Now, there's a very memorable scene

in this most recent season of hacks

where your character gets so angry

she throws a literal Bronzino across the room.

Where does this rank in your favorite moments from the show?

It's up there.

It's definitely up there.

I think some of the dramatic work

that I've been able to do on the show has been rewarding

but I will say that that is like probably top two.

And again, like I would, like my,

I mean, it all comes back to Philly

but like my dad had this shirt growing up

that said, I'm not angry.

I'm from Philly.

And like I was channeling, like the rage that we can access

like is like that's like what that was.

Like I was like, let's fucking go.

Like this, I'm gonna like watch the spiral on this bridge.

You know, for real.

No, literally.

I'm like, the camera's here.

Trying to fucking get it.

No, literally, but it was just like,

it was a very cathartic moment.

You know, when you yell and you really fucking scream,

it's like crying.

Like it's like, there's catharsis in it

and it's like cleansing almost.

Like that was like such a crazy experience

and I thought it was pretty funny too.

So I was proud of it.

As fans of the hacks know your star alongside

the legend Jean Smart.

That's right.

I have a clip here of you two that feels like it captures

your real life dynamic, but you tell me.

Okay.

Queen Emma.

Her current favorite song.

Ooh, I love the new Heim song relationships.

Can you help me?

Baby, how can I explain that an innocent mistake

turned into 17 days fucking relationships?

Whoo, I don't know that one, but sure.

It's pretty good.

I'm going to say something about Chapel Room.

First of all, you nailed that so hard.

Oh, that old thing.

No worries.

What did you guys bond over the most on set?

You know, we have like a, I think the reason that the show,

one of the reasons that the show works so well

is because we had kind of an instant connection

and we instantly kind of went to a place emotionally

with each other that was really honest.

And, you know, I feel like so much of our love on the show

and in real life is bonding over our sense of humor.

Like we have the same sense of humor.

Like we laugh at the same stuff

and we can like kind of laugh and cry together

and we've just like been through so much.

And, you know, I think like she likes to spar.

Like she likes to like do a little bit of like roasting

and like I too love that.

Like she's tough and really sensitive as well.

So like we have fun with that.

And, you know, I mean, she maybe with the music of it all,

like she's more in the Frank Sinatra zone,

which I can rock with.

But yeah, we just like had this instant thing,

you know, that you have with people you just like,

who are like lifers.

It's just like when you click, you click.

Yeah, it was instant. We didn't have to build anything.

Yes. Now, like I mentioned in your intro,

you're also a standup comedian.

You also put out your debut standup special,

everything must go on HBO last year.

Congratulations.

Thank you.

In the special, you talk about being a cheerleader in high school

and how it ruined your body.

I believe we have the clip, Queen Emma cheerleading ruined

my body, okay?

When I bend down my knees,

sound like a gambling addict juggling dice.

Oh, is that hurt to hear?

I'm 28.

Yeah. Now, first of all,

we have had a segment on here that I like to call TMI.

Some people say that TMI means too much information,

but some people like me like to say that it means

tell me immediately.

So I'm going to need you to tell me immediately

about that knee injury.

Oh my God.

I mean, it's just like I just repeated.

It's just from landing on my knees from like,

you know, 10 feet in the air, 20 feet in the air,

like getting dropped, like, you know, I was a flyer

and I cheered in high school

before that I was a competitive cheerleader.

And it's intense.

It's like a, it's like a crazy sport.

And I got a ton of injuries.

I mean, like, I'm just like creaky.

Like, I'm just like really, my knees,

like if I walk a certain amount,

I'm having to like reset my kneecap.

Like I'm having to like lock it back in and play.

Like I should be wearing probably like a brace of some kind.

It's bad.

I just like, I'm like, I gotta figure that out.

But yeah, I'm just like fucking,

I just got aches and pains.

You know how it is.

Now, when people say the cheerleading is not a sport.

Yeah.

Do you ever like dive deeper into that?

Do you ever like really press them on it

and be like, okay, give me the reasons?

Because I don't know that they would be able to provide them.

No, I think people have a misconception about cheerleading.

First of all, because it is seen as an accessory

to another sport, like culturally.

And I think it's so rooted in misogyny,

obviously, the way that like a sport that is so clearly feminine

in many ways, which by the way, like I'm sorry.

Like I just have never met a more raw hardcore bitch

than a fucking cheerleader.

Like we are insane.

Like the limits that cheerleaders push their bodies to.

We have the saying that like athletes lift weights,

cheerleaders lift athletes.

Like we are crazy.

And it's like, it is so many multiple, like different sports

packed into one.

It's dance, it's acrobatics, it's bodybuilding,

it's weightlifting.

You know, it is like literally like Cirque de Soleil style,

crazy shit.

And you know, I think when people say that cheerleading

is on a sport, it just signals an ignorance.

It signals a lack of information

and kind of an incorrect perception of the sport itself.

Like they see you just like they're standing there

on the sidelines, that's not what it is.

Competitive cheer has nothing to do with football, basketball.

It doesn't have anything to do with any other sport dominated by men.

It is all about the routine.

Two minutes and 47 seconds of high intensity, raw power.

And it's amazing and we make it look easy

because it's because of the level of athleticism

that is occurring.

It's, so I think people just, when they say it's on a sport,

I'm like, oh, you're just like ignorant.

You just don't know what you're talking about.

I think it's interesting, I'm not going to give exact numbers,

but the a while ago, I read a report on most concussions

reported within sports.

And cheerleading was very high up.

Yeah.

And if there is that much risk of injury,

all these guys want like this brute force like,

oh, let's tackle each other.

Let's do other, like really like physically bash each other

together.

But we can't acknowledge the physical threat

that occurs when participating in cheerleading

and acknowledge that you're pretty much getting the risk

that you enjoy, but with a finesse.

It's also like, you know, you're throwing someone

20 feet into the air and they could land on you.

Like y'all could knock heads together.

Like the threat of danger, by the way, in a pyramid

and something where people are like,

depending on each other or something falls,

you're getting the weight of 10 people on you.

Like it is similar to a ball in that way.

Like there is.

Well, even just in like, you'll have to,

you'll have to help me on my terms,

but a bass and a flyer, even a single person bass,

you're still talking about, even if the bass

does everything they're supposed to do perfectly,

if the flyer twists themselves slightly too far,

they then have to accommodate and adjust immediately.

I just think not enough credit is being given

to the fact that people are legitimately flying

through the air.

I just wish that people understood that intensity.

It's like crazy.

I do have to admit.

I was not a cheerleader for multiple reasons.

I'm not a makeup girly.

I am tall as fuck.

I don't think that's very conducive

unless you're just like a supporting cast.

We would, you would be, you would be a backspot probably.

Yeah.

I can't do flips again, tall as hell.

Yeah.

Gymnastics, anything in that realm was not really for me.

There's a bunch of reasons, right?

My mom was a cheerleader.

I respect it.

It's funny now that we have four daughters

and people will always say,

like, what's the one sport you don't want them

to participate in?

Not once have I said, Julie,

because I'm gonna piss off a whole community right now.

Go off, do it.

It's swimming.

I'll rep you till the day I die.

Swimming?

Let me tell you why.

I'm sure again.

I have a reason.

I don't want to have to sit in a hot pool.

As the spectator.

And smell like chlorine when I leave

when I never fucking touch the pool.

Oh my God.

Okay, that's it.

That's literally it.

That's the whole reason.

It's not like I enjoy watching swimming.

Also, I did the PA in college for two swim meets, too.

I'm good.

I've seen what I needed to see.

Your child swims from,

they're in the physical pool for a maximum

of a minute and 30 seconds.

I am so out.

I'm so out.

It's crazy because that would be like,

when I think about the same question,

I'd be so worried about injuries that I'm like,

oh, swimming is like good for the joints, good for the thing.

Sure.

That is like the only,

perhaps like one of the only safe sports.

Yeah.

But it's a very selfish answer of me.

It's a very selfish answer, but it's honest.

And you know, we sometimes in high school

had to cheer for the water polo games

and I know that hot chlorine smelling.

It's fucking nasty.

I, I will now that you've brought up the injury thing,

maybe I should change my answer.

Fuck.

That's what I swear like soccer.

These girls are kicking shins.

Yeah.

I mean, you played field hockey, right?

Yes, I did.

Are you rocking with some, some injuries?

Oh, I broke my nose.

I had 13 stitches in my forehead from a stick.

No, it's like, I had a hip surgery on both of one on each hip.

Holy shit.

I just, so maybe that's why injuries never cross my head.

You're like, oh, you like that?

We all do.

That's weird.

So we're all doing that.

I literally, I'm like, I thought everybody's knees sound like sand.

Strange.

Yeah.

It's all cracking.

All the time.

All the time.

Interesting.

Now, if you were going to pick a sport,

that you would not want the younger generation or a child to play.

I have to say it's too late.

It's dangerous.

It's dangerous.

Yes.

It's dangerous.

It's fucking dangerous and bad for your body.

I'm going to package up you explaining your cheerleading injuries and your, like, the

intensity of cheerleading.

I'm going to package it up.

So the next time someone asks me, what sport do you not want your kids to play?

I'm going to say cheerleading, but Hannah's going to explain why she gets it.

Roll the clip.

Well, my last question for you, Hannah.

I like to ask all my guests, the best piece of advice they've ever received, whether

it be motherhood advice, comedy advice, sisterhood advice.

For you, what's the best piece of acting advice that you've ever received?

Hmm.

Honestly, know your lines like I think from what I gather, from what I hear and from what

I have observed in certain situations, that is something that you would think is obvious,

but is, like, not all the way being done by folks.

And I think that, like, I mean, before, because I didn't have acting experience, like, I

was just a stand-up comic, I think that helps so much because it's like a lot to hold

in your head if you're, like, trying to think of the words and also trying to remember

the direction and trying to remember the physical choreography because you have to keep doing

the same thing over and over so they can cut it all together and it makes sense and your

hand isn't up here.

Like, there's a lot to hold mentally, so if you don't have the lines, like, it's just

crazy.

That's such a simple, short, sweetened to the point.

You know, I like it.

It's pretty simple.

Now, let's do it with a Philadelphia twist.

Yes.

What advice would you give a Cowboys fan who shows up to the link two weeks from today?

Say your prayers, bitch.

You need a blankie.

You want me to tuck in?

Perfect.

I want you to say a little prayer because you're going to need God.

I can't.

Perfect.

Gober, and goberts.

And goberts.

And by the way, Kylie, goberts.

Goberts.

parentheses.

I love you.

I love it so much.

Oh my gosh.

I cannot.

Thank you enough for coming on.

Oh my god.

I'm so ready for Eagle season.

I am so ready to wish you luck.

At the M use this year, I am so happy we got to do this.

And of course, goberts.

Goberts.

I love it.

And that's a wrap on another episode of Not Gonna Lie.

You can find even more clips from my longer conversation with Hannah on my YouTube channel

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