Laura's Emails | BONUS

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3:03During the summer of 2023 He compiled the emails into a Google Drive that he calls the LO file There was so much more about the LO file and these emails That we didn't have time to get to in episode three So I sat down with Clayton to hear a bit more We're going to start with their back and forth about the paternity test Laura claimed that Clayton was refusing to take one He says that wasn't the case And the emails seemed to corroborate his account In the last episode we talked about the paternity testing And who was paying for it Now the whole conversation gets messy as the month drag on But I mentioned that you agreed to pay for the whole thing yourself So let's get into that a little bit deeper In the email from Laura to you on June 24th About three weeks after she told you she was pregnant She says I wanted to let you know that I will not be paying for the paternity test It's of no use to me because I know I wasn't physically involved with anyone else

4:03And therefore no one else could be the father I promise that if it came back any other way I will fully reimburse you But trust me, it won't I haven't lied to you yet and I don't need to pay several hundred Or a thousand dollars for information that I already have Okay, so what was your response to that email? So my response to her was I will pay for a hundred percent of it You have my word Let this message serve as the proof Just schedule it and let me know where you scheduled and I'll pay Throughout this entire L.O. file I don't see one email of you refusing to take a paternity test I know you really wanted to take the paternity test based on what I was seeing in the emails So I found something in the emails that might explain why Laura said you were refusing to take it Can you read that for me? So she had sent me an email saying just confirming that you are refusing a paternity test No answer equals refusing it

5:05Okay, so it's my understanding and I came to this conclusion by reading the emails And you telling me about how no response equals a response that that's what's happening here You weren't responding to her emails and she was taking your lack of response as a no Yeah, it's ridiculous in nature But I mean, you've heard even from a societal standpoint People say silence speaks volumes and I think that's what she was trying to lean into Is and I know you're reading this because I have the mail trackers And if you're choosing not to respond, that is still a response I obviously didn't agree with that I just didn't want to communicate with her But she was just looking for ways to manipulate and gaslight me And eventually the people that were going to see these emails and messages You just mentioned something that I want to talk about You mentioned the mail trackers which we do talk about in the episode with the emails How did you know that she had those trackers on? Eventually, she told me But I also just knew because whenever I'd opened them and I'd read them

6:08She had to send over another one right away But if I was ever just busy and I couldn't get around to my emails Then yeah, nothing would come through Then she eventually told you that she had a tracker on Yeah, and she eventually then told me that she had the trackers I'm like, okay, this makes sense to me why she continues to send them I thought I was able to trick her by not responding And to thinking that like I had her in a block folder And I wasn't paying attention again What I wanted her to believe was that I wasn't looking at these emails I had way better things to do She had no power over me And eventually she would just give up All right, let's move on to another one Here's another email This one's dated July 5th So this is about a month after she told you she was pregnant But she had already hinted to you that she might be pregnant with twins This is the email I had an idea what do you think about hanging out tonight And seeing if this is something you want to try out for a couple of weeks Before we make a decision about what to do If either of us decide that we don't want to explore something more serious

7:10Then at least we will know and we will both have clarity With you not responding about the possibility of twins Or me giving you the chance to make a different decision about the abortion pills Because of that new prospect Things feel unresolved and my anxiety is through the roof I'm sure yours is as well With my stress levels being where they are at now If the baby or babies are born with any issues I would blame you for not trying to help me reduce those By supporting me as you said you would If you just pursued something romantic for a night You have no idea how much it would help me emotionally And I definitely would not blame you for any problems The child or children would have This was still pretty early on When I believe you still thought that there might be that 0.01% chance That she could actually be pregnant So how did this email make you feel And were you concerned for her mental health at the time? Yeah so of course I was concerned for her mental health Reading these messages But I had my guard up And I was like there's no way that I can explore intimacy

8:13It has to be off the table I can date her quote unquote for a week And give her attention And at the end of it I was going to say Oh you know I just don't think it's going to work between us But we gave it a fair go Alright I guess this is the end of it right Like that's essentially where I was going to head with that But she obviously was like no we have to be intimate If we do do this And of course I wasn't willing to go there Okay so I'm going to jump into another document that I found in the LO file This one is from August 13th So this was just a few days after that dating contract that you received Do you remember getting another contract like document after the dating contract? So many emails came in that maybe she did sandwich another contract in there But I don't recall off the top of my head Okay well I'm going to read it to you It appears to be sent through DocuSign And the title of the document is agreement between Laura Owens and Clayton Eckerd It begins We Laura Owens and Clayton Eckerd Agreed to meet up tonight

9:14August 13th 2023 for the court mandated good faith consultation And I'll pause here for a second I was mentioning a good faith consultation because this document came through two weeks after she filed in court to establish paternity So a good faith consultation is basically like a formal requirement for opposing parties to attempt to resolve a dispute that was brought to court And you kind of handle it sincerely Honestly it's like a good faith attempt to resolving it before you seek further intervention from the court Okay so back to the document In addition, Laura Owens will alert the court to the fact that there is no longer a need to take action against Clayton Eckerd for his refusal to participate in the good faith consultation Laura Owens agrees to take and pay for both her and Clayton Eckerd to take the prenatal paternity test at RavGen to be taken at the earliest possible date And promises not to cancel Clayton Eckerd agrees to unblock Laura Owens and not block her again Now Laura signed this document but I don't see a signature from you on that document

10:16Yeah because it just wasn't a fair trade-off I mean I was willing to negotiate with her I was working at every moment to try to find that little common ground where she would say yeah this could work But as far as this contract went I'm like you're not going to do what you say you're going to do anyways And no I don't want to unblock you because it doesn't accomplish anything you're just going to send me another barrage of emails in text This was another theme I noticed in a lot of these emails is that she really wanted you to unblock her phone number Now she could still get in touch with you via email it seemed even though you had her block they were still kind of getting through But why do you think that the unblocking of her phone number was such a priority for her? To me it's completely stemming from a hurt ego I feel that she felt less than if she was blocked Therefore if I unblocked her there wasn't as much hostility because it's like okay now we have an open chain of communication

11:19Like two people that respect one another would have I mean who do you block typically? You block people that are individuals that you don't want to talk to, people that you don't want to have access to your life People that are extremely rude I mean you don't block just the average person right you're blocking people that you do not want to have any interactions with So there's a negative connotation around being blocked and I believe Laura just wanted to remove that A lot of your correspondence with Laura happened almost three years ago now What has it been like for you going back reading these messages and reliving this time of your life? It's been very agitating Anger has been the main emotion that I feel arise whenever I have to reopen this box that I've compartmentalized as much as possible Because I still have a life to live beyond this matter But Laura makes it really hard I mean she's always reopening the box and so for me this is a still ongoing matter

12:21And I am hoping to have a outcome where we can close this completely because it's tiring I am so tired of talking about this feeling this dealing with this In my eyes and what I would have thought would have occurred was like this would have been done over the course of six months at max And here we are on year three and we're still going Thanks so much for listening If you want to see the emails we mentioned you can read them for yourself at our Instagram at Glass Podcasts And stay tuned for new episodes and bonus episodes on the Love Trap feed Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing Victory Lane? Yeah, it's even better with Chamba by my side Race to ChambaCasino.com, let's Chamba No purchase necessary, VTW Group, voidware prohibited by law, CTNC's, 21 plus sponsored by Chamba Casino

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