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We talked in episode three about the many emails Clayton received from Laura Owens

During the summer of 2023

He compiled the emails into a Google Drive that he calls the LO file

There was so much more about the LO file and these emails

That we didn't have time to get to in episode three

So I sat down with Clayton to hear a bit more

We're going to start with their back and forth about the paternity test

Laura claimed that Clayton was refusing to take one

He says that wasn't the case

And the emails seemed to corroborate his account

In the last episode we talked about the paternity testing

And who was paying for it

Now the whole conversation gets messy as the month drag on

But I mentioned that you agreed to pay for the whole thing yourself

So let's get into that a little bit deeper

In the email from Laura to you on June 24th

About three weeks after she told you she was pregnant

She says

I wanted to let you know that I will not be paying for the paternity test

It's of no use to me because I know I wasn't physically involved with anyone else

And therefore no one else could be the father

I promise that if it came back any other way

I will fully reimburse you

But trust me, it won't

I haven't lied to you yet and I don't need to pay several hundred

Or a thousand dollars for information that I already have

Okay, so what was your response to that email?

So my response to her was I will pay for a hundred percent of it

You have my word

Let this message serve as the proof

Just schedule it and let me know where you scheduled and I'll pay

Throughout this entire L.O. file

I don't see one email of you refusing to take a paternity test

I know you really wanted to take the paternity test based on what I was seeing in the emails

So I found something in the emails that might explain why Laura said you were refusing to take it

Can you read that for me?

So she had sent me an email saying just confirming that you are refusing a paternity test

No answer equals refusing it

Okay, so it's my understanding and I came to this conclusion by reading the emails

And you telling me about how no response equals a response that that's what's happening here

You weren't responding to her emails and she was taking your lack of response as a no

Yeah, it's ridiculous in nature

But I mean, you've heard even from a societal standpoint

People say silence speaks volumes and I think that's what she was trying to lean into

Is and I know you're reading this because I have the mail trackers

And if you're choosing not to respond, that is still a response

I obviously didn't agree with that

I just didn't want to communicate with her

But she was just looking for ways to manipulate and gaslight me

And eventually the people that were going to see these emails and messages

You just mentioned something that I want to talk about

You mentioned the mail trackers which we do talk about in the episode with the emails

How did you know that she had those trackers on?

Eventually, she told me

But I also just knew because whenever I'd opened them and I'd read them

She had to send over another one right away

But if I was ever just busy and I couldn't get around to my emails

Then yeah, nothing would come through

Then she eventually told you that she had a tracker on

Yeah, and she eventually then told me that she had the trackers

I'm like, okay, this makes sense to me why she continues to send them

I thought I was able to trick her by not responding

And to thinking that like I had her in a block folder

And I wasn't paying attention again

What I wanted her to believe was that I wasn't looking at these emails

I had way better things to do

She had no power over me

And eventually she would just give up

All right, let's move on to another one

Here's another email

This one's dated July 5th

So this is about a month after she told you she was pregnant

But she had already hinted to you that she might be pregnant with twins

This is the email

I had an idea what do you think about hanging out tonight

And seeing if this is something you want to try out for a couple of weeks

Before we make a decision about what to do

If either of us decide that we don't want to explore something more serious

Then at least we will know and we will both have clarity

With you not responding about the possibility of twins

Or me giving you the chance to make a different decision about the abortion pills

Because of that new prospect

Things feel unresolved and my anxiety is through the roof

I'm sure yours is as well

With my stress levels being where they are at now

If the baby or babies are born with any issues

I would blame you for not trying to help me reduce those

By supporting me as you said you would

If you just pursued something romantic for a night

You have no idea how much it would help me emotionally

And I definitely would not blame you for any problems

The child or children would have

This was still pretty early on

When I believe you still thought that there might be that 0.01% chance

That she could actually be pregnant

So how did this email make you feel

And were you concerned for her mental health at the time?

Yeah so of course I was concerned for her mental health

Reading these messages

But I had my guard up

And I was like there's no way that I can explore intimacy

It has to be off the table

I can date her quote unquote for a week

And give her attention

And at the end of it I was going to say

Oh you know I just don't think it's going to work between us

But we gave it a fair go

Alright I guess this is the end of it right

Like that's essentially where I was going to head with that

But she obviously was like no we have to be intimate

If we do do this

And of course I wasn't willing to go there

Okay so I'm going to jump into another document that I found in the LO file

This one is from August 13th

So this was just a few days after that dating contract that you received

Do you remember getting another contract like document after the dating contract?

So many emails came in that maybe she did sandwich another contract in there

But I don't recall off the top of my head

Okay well I'm going to read it to you

It appears to be sent through DocuSign

And the title of the document is agreement between Laura Owens and Clayton Eckerd

It begins

We Laura Owens and Clayton Eckerd

Agreed to meet up tonight

August 13th 2023 for the court mandated good faith consultation

And I'll pause here for a second

I was mentioning a good faith consultation because this document came through two weeks after she filed in court to establish paternity

So a good faith consultation is basically like a formal requirement for opposing parties to attempt to resolve a dispute that was brought to court

And you kind of handle it sincerely

Honestly it's like a good faith attempt to resolving it before you seek further intervention from the court

Okay so back to the document

In addition, Laura Owens will alert the court to the fact that there is no longer a need to take action against Clayton Eckerd for his refusal to participate in the good faith consultation

Laura Owens agrees to take and pay for both her and Clayton Eckerd to take the prenatal paternity test at RavGen to be taken at the earliest possible date

And promises not to cancel

Clayton Eckerd agrees to unblock Laura Owens and not block her again

Now Laura signed this document but I don't see a signature from you on that document

Yeah because it just wasn't a fair trade-off

I mean I was willing to negotiate with her

I was working at every moment to try to find that little common ground where she would say yeah this could work

But as far as this contract went I'm like you're not going to do what you say you're going to do anyways

And no I don't want to unblock you because it doesn't accomplish anything you're just going to send me another barrage of emails in text

This was another theme I noticed in a lot of these emails is that she really wanted you to unblock her phone number

Now she could still get in touch with you via email it seemed even though you had her block they were still kind of getting through

But why do you think that the unblocking of her phone number was such a priority for her?

To me it's completely stemming from a hurt ego

I feel that she felt less than if she was blocked

Therefore if I unblocked her there wasn't as much hostility because it's like okay now we have an open chain of communication

Like two people that respect one another would have

I mean who do you block typically?

You block people that are individuals that you don't want to talk to, people that you don't want to have access to your life

People that are extremely rude I mean you don't block just the average person right you're blocking people that you do not want to have any interactions with

So there's a negative connotation around being blocked and I believe Laura just wanted to remove that

A lot of your correspondence with Laura happened almost three years ago now

What has it been like for you going back reading these messages and reliving this time of your life?

It's been very agitating

Anger has been the main emotion that I feel arise whenever I have to reopen this box that I've compartmentalized as much as possible

Because I still have a life to live beyond this matter

But Laura makes it really hard I mean she's always reopening the box and so for me this is a still ongoing matter

And I am hoping to have a outcome where we can close this completely because it's tiring

I am so tired of talking about this feeling this dealing with this

In my eyes and what I would have thought would have occurred was like this would have been done over the course of six months at max

And here we are on year three and we're still going

Thanks so much for listening

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