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Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump’s Iran war spreads with strikes across the Middle East. Also, the House Oversight Committee releases video of the Clinton depositions in the Epstein investigation. And Trump’s war in Iran now looms over Tuesday primaries. Sen. Mark Kelly, Rep. Adam Smith, Amb. Wendy Sherman, Rep. Ro Khanna, and TX Rep. James Talarico join Lawrence O’Donnell.
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And so, on the third day of his war against Iran, speaking in the majestic
East Room of the White House, Donald Trump reminded the world of what is most important to him.
We have a lot of great service members here with us, too.
And this beautiful building in it, beautiful.
We're adding on to the building a little bit.
We're improving the building.
See that nice drape?
When that comes down right now, you see a very, very deep hole.
But in about a year and a half from now, you're going to see a very, very beautiful building.
And there's your entrance to it, right there.
In fact, it looks so nice.
I don't think I'll even, I think I'll save money on the doors.
Because the cake get more beautiful than that.
I picked those drapes in my first term.
I always like gold.
But I think we can save a lot of money.
I just saved, I just saved curtains.
But, and it will be, it will be spectacular.
It'll be the most beautiful ballroom.
I believe it's because I built many a ballroom.
I believe it's going to be the most beautiful ballroom anywhere in the world.
The only president in history, who in the third day of a war,
is talking to the world about drapes that he chose.
When Donald Trump illegally launched his war, he said this.
And we may have casualties that often happens in war.
And today, Donald Trump's defense secretary said this.
As the president warned, an effort of this scope will include casualties.
War is hell, and always will be.
The defense secretary also said today that there are, quote,
these are his words, no stupid rules of engagement.
And that means the American military under Donald Trump will be operating under the same,
no rules of engagement used by Adolf Hitler's forces in World War II against Americans.
When Donald Trump was speaking lovingly about drapes this afternoon,
the publicly announced death toll of American military personnel in Donald Trump's war was four.
And later today, after Donald Trump was talking about his love of his drapes,
that number was raised to six. And Donald Trump has not said a word about those lost lives
since that number moved up to six today. Donald Trump and his secretary of defense have
both repeatedly referred to what they are doing in Iran as a war, which neither of them seem
to understand as a way of emphasizing just how unconstitutional and illegal it is.
Writing in Politico, Uncush Codori, a former federal prosecutor says, in fact,
the US attack on Iran crosses multiple legal lines both domestically and internationally.
The US Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war, not the president, the Trump
administration's war, also cannot be squared with the war power's resolution of 1973,
which allows the president to initiate hostilities abroad only when there has been one, a declaration
of war two, specific statutory authorization or three, a national emergency created by attack
upon the United States, its territories or possessions or its armed forces. Trump did not even
attempt to argue that any of these conditions had been met as for the killing of comedy,
that also appears to have been illegal under international law, which generally prohibits killing
heads of state. After a closed-door briefing by Donald Trump's secretary of state and
secretary of defense, Senator Mark Warner, the top Democrat in the Senate Intelligence Committee,
said this. There was no imminent threat to the United States of America by the Iranians.
There was a threat to Israel, and if we equate a threat to Israel as the equivalent of an
imminent threat to the United States, then we are in uncharted territory.
This being Donald Trump's war, of course, Donald Trump has changed the possible time frame of
his war from days to months. The fact that Donald Trump is a proven pathological liar,
combined with the fact that he is demonstrably incompetent makes it very unlikely that Donald Trump
tonight has any idea at all how long his war will last or what it might accomplish.
Donald Trump has given a variety of reasons for launching his war, including regime change,
but Donald Trump is calling on the Iranian people to deliver regime change for him.
To the members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the armed forces, and all of the police,
I say tonight that you must lay down your weapons and have complete immunity or in the alternative
face certain death. So lay down your arms, you will be treated fairly with total immunity or
you will face certain death. How about lay down your arms and face certain death? Lay down their
arms to whom? If an Iranian soldier puts his rifle on the ground, who's going to pick it up?
Would it be picked up by one of the millions of opponents of the regime who would then
immediately use that weapon to shoot and kill that soldier who put it down? Trump told the Iranian
military, you will be treated fairly with total immunity, treated fairly by whom, with total immunity
granted by whom. There is not a person in Iran in the military or an opponent of the military
who can take a word of what Donald Trump said seriously, and then there is this.
Finally to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand.
Stay sheltered, don't leave your home, it's very dangerous outside, bombs will be dropping
everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government, it will be yours to take.
This will be probably your only chance for generations. For many years you have asked for
America's help, but you never got it. No president was willing to do what I am willing to do
tonight. Now you have a president who is giving you what you want. So let's see how you respond.
America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force.
Now is the time to seize control of your destiny and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future
that is close within your reach. This is the moment for action. Do not let it pass.
Imagine if you will, anyone of Donald Trump's brave sons or daughters or Donald Trump himself,
living in Iran tonight, not yet killed by a bomb.
Is that what Donald Trump Jr. would do? Run out there and, quote, take over your government.
Is that what 19-year-old Baron Trump would do? Quote, seize control of your destiny. Would Baron
Trump's mother let him go out into the streets of Iran and seize control of his destiny?
She won't even let him enlist in the American military and serve in his father's war.
So not only is Donald Trump telling people to do something that he and no one in his family would
ever do, he is leaving the entire burden of his war on the people he is bombing tonight.
To wait until Donald Trump is finished bombing them and then take over your government.
It will be yours to take. We have been in this delusion before.
There's another way for the bloodshed to stop and that is for the Iraqi military and the
Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator,
to step aside and then comply with the United Nations resolutions and rejoin the family of peace
loving nations. That did not happen and when that president finished bombing Iraq,
Saddam Hussein remained in power until that president's son became president
and said this when he launched his war against Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
We come to Iraq with respect for its citizens, for their great civilization and for the religious
faiths they practice. We have no ambition in Iraq except to remove a threat and restore control
of that country to its own people. Republican presidents launching wars never fail to
pledge their friendship to the people they are bombing. The oppressed people of Afghanistan will
know the generosity of America and our allies. As we strike military targets, we will also drop
food, medicine and supplies to the starving and suffering men and women and children of Afghanistan.
The United States of America is a friend to the Afghan people.
Tonight, the people of Cuba should probably be planning where they will hide from the bonds
when American friendship comes their way. Leading off our discussion tonight is Senator
Markelli, Democrat of Arizona. As you remember, the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate
Armed Services Committee. Senator, from your position, have you been able to
obtain information that makes it clear to you what this war is about?
Lawrence, thank you for having me on. Certainly not clear yet. I'll get a brief tomorrow,
along with my Senate colleagues from the Secretary of Defense and State. But I don't expect
more clarity here. This has been a few days of a lot of changing positions by the administration,
like why did they get into this? What are we getting out of it? I'd like to see an explanation
to the American people about how is this conflict on the other side of the world going to help them
with their healthcare costs, with the cost of food, and rent. How is it going to improve their lives?
That's, to be honest with you, that's what I would really like to hear from this administration.
Well, we did hear from Donald Trump today about his drapes and about his ballroom that he's
so excited about. We heard nothing about the increase in gasoline prices that is coming our way
because of this war. Yeah, Lawrence, this is such a consequential decision to send young men and
women off to war. I remember back in 1991, right before the first Gulf War, I was a pilot on an
aircraft carrier, and I remember how hard it was on my commanding officer. He wasn't the guy who
even had to make the decision. He was just in charge of a bunch of young pilots and bombardier
navigators, and it was really, really challenging for him because he knew that there was a reasonable
chance that some of us weren't going to come back. And this president is down there at Mar-a-Lago.
He's talking about his ballroom. I presume he was playing golf, and now we're three days into this
thing. And he doesn't seem focused on it. This is like the most serious stuff that a president
ever does is send people off to fight overseas. And in this case, what I see is no plan.
There's no end game here. There's no strategic vision for what we're supposed to get out of this
and how it's supposed to end. And what I worry about is escalation, where we wind up with
troops on the ground and Iran fighting who even. The IRGC, I think the president at this point
really owes it to the American people to have a serious discussion about why has he decided to do
this? I think that obviously isn't coming. Every other president who's engaged in anything like
this has had that discussion before they engage to this point.
Yeah, I think that's the case. But Donald Trump is a unique individual and I think he's not
suited to be the leader of our country. I certainly didn't vote for him. And I think he's
the wrong person for the job for a lot of different reasons. In my view, when he tries to do something
that's pretty significant, he screws it up. Immigration enforcement, what happened in L.A.
and Minneapolis has been a disaster. I mean, ICE now needs to be totally overhauled because
this guy cannot manage anything. And now he's going to try to manage a war overseas. We've got
the American people have to be evacuated at a 14 different countries. And by the way,
he's the guy that set up the conditions that got us into whatever this situation is to begin with
because he tore up the Iran nuclear deal as soon as he became president the first time.
Senator Mark Kelly, thank you very much for joining us tonight.
Thank you for having me on. And joining us now is Congressman Adam Smith,
Democrat from the state of Washington. He's the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee.
Congressman Smith, with your expertise in these armed services matters, what sense have you made
of this so far? Well, and we got a brief today. I was in the briefing that Secretary Rubio
Pete Hanksath, CIA Director Ratcliffe, and Chairman Kane Gave, which laid it out.
My biggest sense is they have a whole bunch of different rationales for while they're doing
why they're doing this. And they don't have a clear sense of what it is they're trying to accomplish.
And Senator Kelly is absolutely right. President Trump sort of did this on a whim without
making any effort to make the case to the American people or Congress or to Congress as to why.
Now they keep saying, you know, we have specific objectives. We want to go at it until we
achieve those objectives. They have not made clear what those objectives are. It's moved around a
lot. Is it regime change? And I think in your opening monologue, you laid out the major flaws
with regime change as the objective here. Is it to stop their nuclear program? Is it to stop
ballistic missiles? And how will we know when we have achieved it? So we don't have that.
And the second big thing is this has spread. Now we have Hezbollah and Israel back at war.
We have all of the golf stakes facing an endless the flow of drones and missiles. They can defend
against some of it. They can't defend against all of it. The Middle East is embroiled in a war they
haven't seen in 60 years because Donald Trump made a rash decision without an adequate
explanation for why or what the goal is. So, Congressman Smith, you were in a briefing with the
Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State. And those things that are vague to us and that have been
shifting since it started with Donald Trump's public comments about trying to stop a nuclear
program or trying to have regime change. You came out of that with no more clarity. You couldn't
get a clear response from them about this is the objective. When this objective is achieved,
it's over. You couldn't get an answer to that. But I have a best guess. But then also I did all
did not get that clear sense of, okay, when is it going to be achieved? I mean, the best way to sort
of sum it up in terms of what I think they're trying to do is they want to punch Iran in the face.
They want to weaken them as much as possible. So the hope is that at the end of it, no matter who
is in charge of Iran, they will be basically bent to our will. They'll be afraid to do anything.
And there's a thousand different flaws with that approach. First of all, we don't know what the
government's going to be. Second of all, to your point, he's telling all the people of Iran,
rise up, take your government. That's not actually what he's building for here. All they're going to
do is rise up and get slaughtered by the ARGC because there is no plan to actually remove them from
power. So I think that is basically it. Now, they've been dishonest about it. They haven't even told
us where Iran was at with their nuclear weapons. And also, when do you achieve that objective
that I just described? Is it when 80% of their missiles are gone? Is it when their nuclear program
is once again obliterated? Is it when half of the leadership is killed? Half of the ARGC is killed?
That is what there was no clarity on whatsoever. When are these objectives going to be achieved?
And meanwhile, while they're trying to achieve these undefined objectives, people are dying,
the entire region is in chaos. And it's also impacting the globe. Not just is Trump not dealing
with the affordability crisis at housing, but what he's doing is going to drive prices up even
further. Oil, natural gas, the general disruption of trade throughout the region is going to hurt
Americans. Carson Adams Smith, thank you very much for joining us tonight.
Thanks, Lutz. And coming up, we are here tonight because Donald Trump decided to violate
an agreement, President Obama, and five other countries reached with Iran, preventing Iran from
developing nuclear weapons. Ambassador Wendy Sherman, who helped negotiate that deal, joins us next.
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Donald Trump says he is, quote, very disappointed. Those are his words. Disappointed in
British Prime Minister Kierstharmer for refusing to join Donald Trump's illegal war against Iran.
Donald Trump wanted to use the joint United States, the United Kingdom military base on the
British controlled island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. The British Prime Minister
refused to allow that. And today, in the House of Commons, the Prime Minister said this.
The United Kingdom was not involved in the initial strikes on Iran by the US and Israel.
That decision was deliberate. We believe that the best way forward for the region and for the
world is a negotiated settlement, in which Iran agrees to give up any aspirations to develop
a nuclear weapon, and ceases its destabilising activity across the region. This Government does
not believe in regime change from the skies, and I thank him for his question. The lessons of
history have taught us that it is important when we make decisions like this, that we establish
a lawful basis for what the United Kingdom is doing. The British Government was one of the countries
that joined the Iran deal negotiated by Secretary of State John Kerry, and then under Secretary of
State Wendy Sherman, which prohibited Iran from developing nuclear weapons. That deal was signed
by President Obama, signed by the United States, and Iran, along with the United Kingdom,
France, Germany, China, and Russia in 2015. And in Donald Trump's first year in the presidency,
he ripped up that deal, and what was the most reckless diplomatic act by a president in the 21st
century, or perhaps ever, and then Donald Trump immediately began threatening Iran. Not one of the
American allies that joined President Obama in signing the Iran deal joined Donald Trump's
war against Iran. Joining us now is Ambassador Wendy Sherman, former Deputy Secretary of State.
She served as the chief US negotiator for the 2015 Iran nuclear deal and the Obama administration.
Ambassador Sherman, thank you very much for joining us tonight, and I just want to open the microphone
to your thoughts about where we are tonight and where we might be if Donald Trump had never
ripped up the Iran deal. Well, thank you, Lawrence.
Tonight, my heart is going out to the human beings that are involved in all of this.
The people of Iran who want a better future, the families of the Six Service,
people who were killed, to my former colleagues and American citizens in 14 countries who were
told to evacuate with very little help from the United States government to do that with airports
closed all over the place. When I was deputy secretary, when I was under secretary every morning,
I would wake up, read the intelligence figure out who was going to be safe that day, who wasn't
going to be safe that day, what we needed to do. And diplomacy is not about drinking wine at
receptions. It's about very tough, hard-nosed negotiations, which is what under President Obama,
Secretary Clinton, Secretary Kerry, and a terrific team and thousands of people in our government,
we will able to do in that deal to ensure that Iran would never have a nuclear weapon.
The President Trump has said that Iran needs to say it will never have a nuclear weapon. In fact,
the preamble of that 2015 agreement says that has Iran saying that it will not ever get,
develop or acquire a nuclear weapon. It said that words many times. Now, one can't trust
that language. You have to verify it, monitor it, and the International Atomic Energy Agency
had done that. We were on a path, a hard path that would need a lot of
constant monitoring to know you would get there. But at the end of the day, it would put us in a much
safer place and open channels with Iran to discuss all of the terrible things that that regime
has done. Now, one always needs a credible threat of force in a tough negotiation.
But the use of force should be the last alternative, the last resort, not the first one, and
President Trump has now used military action in, I think, eight or nine countries.
And he has said most recently that he sees the Maduro extraction,
Al-Davinezuela, as the template. If that is the template for Iran,
that means that the President will find someone he feels he can deal with to get what I'm not sure,
maybe Iran's oil in the same way he wants Venezuela's oil. But what will that mean for the people
of Iran who have been under such a terrible, terrible time? Thousands killed in the protests.
Ostensibly, President Trump began by saying he had their back. What he's doing is making
their lives worse, not better. Ambassador Wendy Sherman, thank you very much for joining us tonight.
Thank you, Lawrence. And coming up, Congressman Rokana is pushing a house vote against Donald Trump's
war in Iran. Rokana says that after Bill and Hillary Clinton's testimony to the House
Oversight Committee, Mr. and Mrs. Donald Trump should testify in the Committee's Epstein
investigation. That's next. Yesterday, Republican Congressman Thomas Massey tweeted,
bombing a country on the other side of the globe won't make the Epstein files go away any more
than the Dow going above 50,000 will. Today, the House Oversight Committee released video of the
depositions of President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,
who had a suggestion for the Committee about Donald Trump.
I think that it would be in keeping with the scope of the investigation of this committee to
set up a deposition with President Trump. I know he's been deposed many, many, many times. He's
taken the Fifth Amendment many, many hundreds of times. So I'm not saying you're going to get a lot
of information, but given what's in the files and given past and prior conduct, he would be on my
witness list. Hillary Clinton worked on the Congressional Committee investigating Republican
President Richard Nixon for his criminality, which eventually forced Nixon to resign the presidency.
And so she knows how these kind of investigative hearings are supposed to be conducted and how to
assemble a witness list for such investigations. Bill Clinton might be the first witness who has
testified to the Committee about what Donald Trump told him about Jeffrey Epstein.
The President never, this is 20 something years ago, never said anything to me to make me think he
was involved in anything improper with regard to have seen either. He just didn't. He just said
with friends. And then we had a falling out over a land deal property deal. Could I ask very
briefly, Mr. President, if you recall what were the circumstances of that conversation, or at least
let's start with when did the conversation occur? We were on its golf course, and there were a
couple of years there when Joe Tory who had been the manager of the Yankees. That was a friend
who had a tournament, a charity begoth tournament called appropriately for this investigation,
the Safe at Home Foundation. And it was designed to combat domestic violence of which
Joe Tory had been a victim as a child. And so I wanted to support it. So Donald Trump gave him
the golf course and you know, to have a tournament on and I played it in a couple of times. And
the day I was there, he would typically, Donald Trump would come out and play a few holes with us.
And he somehow knew I had flown in Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft. And he said, you know, we
had some great times together over the years, but we fell out all because of a real estate deal.
And he said, I'm sorry, it happened. That's all.
Today, MSNOW's Alex Tabet found that voters in North Carolina who will be voting in
primary elections tomorrow have not forgotten about the Epstein files.
What do you think President Trump is trying to distract from the Epstein files?
I'm not quite sure to be honest, but I think the Epstein files are absolutely a big part of
it in all of what we are seeing.
Joining us now is Democratic Congressman Rokhanov, California. He's co-sponsored with
Congressman Thomas Massey of a resolution that would limit Donald Trump's ability to wage war
in Iran without congressional approval. First of all, Congressman Rokhanov, let's go to the
situation in Iran. What are you and Congressman Massey going to be able to accomplish in the house?
Lawrence, the vote is on Thursday. We're hoping to get a majority to say, stop the war in Iran.
Remember that Donald Trump and JD Vance ran as the peace candidates. They said that Vice President
Harris was going to get us into a war in Iran and cause World War III. Never in the modern
history of this country has someone lied as blatantly in one office on such a false pretence.
The American people don't want people dying for a war in the Middle East.
They don't want our billions of dollars going on bombs there instead of housing here,
jobs here, childcare here. I believe we're going to have a close to a unified Democratic caucus
and we have the chance of getting a few Republican votes. So Donald Trump's given a bunch of
reasons about why he did this. He didn't mention Jeffrey Epstein as one of the reasons why he has
done this. But clearly that's one of his hopes is that this that he will divert our attention from
this Carson Massey has promised that will not work. It will not work and he realizes that with
President Clinton testifying the pressure is mounting for him to testify. That's why he didn't want
Clinton to testify. And by the way, Secretary Clinton was so restraint. I mean, she should never
have been called. She'd never met Jeffrey Epstein. You know, who did meet Epstein and was all
over the false Donald Trump. And so and Melania Trump and Melania Trump. And both of them need to be
called to ask basic questions. Why is it that he had a falling out? Because President Clinton's
account of why Donald Trump had a falling out with Jeffrey Epstein is very different than the
account that Donald Trump has been giving. Why are those files missing of the woman who accused him
of rape when she was a minor again, an accusation? But why is it that three of those witness interviews
are missing? And with the first lady, we'll be respectful, but she has to answer some basic
questions. Because unlike first lady Clinton, Secretary Clinton, she actually knew Epstein.
What was her relationship? What was did she know about Epstein's abuse? Well, Donald Trump says,
at least he told the police chief in Florida that everyone knew when he discovered that they
were already investigating Epstein, Donald Trump then says everyone knew. Well, everyone would include
his wife, Melania Trump. It would include his wife, and it would include his cabinet member,
Howard Lutney, who years afterwards is out there doing business. But I think that it's very
appropriate to ask the first lady Trump, when did she know? Why did she continue to have an
engagement with him? Did she know if there were other young girls who were being abused? And what
was the relationship between her and President Trump and Epstein? I mean, we need to know these
details just as a matter of fact. So it's, I don't remember any other testimony where a witness
has told the committee that we know about, about a conversation with Donald Trump about Jeffrey
Epstein. Was Bill Clinton's testimony on that golf course point the first testimony like that?
That, yes, to my knowledge that was the first point. And his testimony contradicts what Donald
Trump was saying. And by the way, President Clinton wasn't trying to get Donald Trump in trouble.
He said, I don't know if there's, he's done anything wrong. But this is what he told me. Well,
it turns out that's not what he's telling the American people. Carson Rokona, thank you very
much for joining us tonight. And coming up tomorrow is election night, Texas Democratic State Representative
James Tolerico, who is running for the United States Senate in Texas. We'll join us next. His
opponent in the Democratic primary representative, Jasmine Crockett, was also invited to join MSNOW
this evening at whatever time she could, but she was unable to do that in her schedule.
So James Tolerico is joining us next.
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New polling shows 59% disapproval for Donald Trump's war in Iran as voters go to the polls
in important primary elections tomorrow in Texas and North Carolina.
Here is a former Trump voter today in North Carolina giving her opinion of Donald Trump's war
in Iran. I think it's just it's absolutely horrifying and
I don't I don't really have anything else. It's horrifying to see and I don't know what other
kind of vehicle call we need at this point. Besides that I mean I shouldn't have to come to killing
women and children to know that we need change and it's disgusting. Trump doesn't care. He's not
caring about the lives that he's putting in there and risking their lives. It's it's all about the
power. Poles close tomorrow night at 730 p.m. in North Carolina and at 8 p.m. Eastern time
in most of Texas and at 9 p.m. Eastern time in West Texas we will be eagerly covering the
elections right here on MS now as the votes are counted tomorrow night and joining us now
on the final night of his primary campaign is Texas State Representative James Teleriko is a
Democratic candidate for United States Senate. Thank you very much for joining us tonight as you
your campaign for the and the primary for the nomination comes to a close when you what you just
heard from that Trump voter in North Carolina. Is that what you've been hearing from voters in Texas
this weekend or anything like that? That's exactly what I'm hearing. I can't tell you the number of
people who come up to me at the end of these events and tell me that they're not a Democrat,
that they're an independent. They're a Republican or they voted for Donald Trump in the last election
but they are fed up with the extremism and the corruption in our government and so there is a
bipartisan backlash growing in the state of Texas and across this country and it's our job to harness
that backlash to produce results at the ballot box so that we can finally have a check
on this administration and on this president's power. What is your view of this new war in Iran?
Well, you know, as a millennial, I saw how military disasters like the Iraq war robbed this nation
of young lives of billions of dollars and of our moral standing in the world. You know, last week I
was in San Branch, Texas, which doesn't have any running water, doesn't have basic sewer infrastructure.
Every dollar that we spend bombing people in the Middle East is a dollar that we are not spending
on our communities right here at home. Not only have American troops lost their lives in the
Middle East this weekend but so did innocent school children in Iran. We can support the democracy
movement in Iran. We can ensure that Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon and we can make sure that
we're not spending trillions of dollars on another foreign adventure in the Middle East.
If you were in the Senate, would you vote to limit the president's power to wage this war?
I would and you know, our constitution is clear that it's Congress that has the power to declare war
and so this administration, this president should make their case for why they believe this military
intervention is necessary and why other avenues won't work diplomacy, economic sanctions,
partnering with our allies around the world. They should make their case out in public
to the people's representatives. Some light is the best disinfectant and I think we've seen for far
too long in this country rogue executive branches that are going in alone and not working with
the legislative branch. That has to end. It's how we're going to stop these forever wars.
You know, I can't think of a situation like this where a war was launched in the final weekend
of a campaign that you and you've had to deal with that as all the other candidates have had to
deal with it. How has it changed your closing message in this campaign?
Well, I think it's underscored the stakes. You know, these are not ordinary times in our politics
and I think people across the state of Texas, across the country, understand that we need to meet
this historic moment and it's why we have to bring people together. That's the only way we're
going to win political power. It's the only way we're going to check this rogue executive branch.
It's the only way we're going to get back to our constitutional principles and that's a lot bigger
than the Democratic Party. It's a lot bigger than the Republican Party. This is about whether or not
we're going to save the American experiment in self-governance going forward and I am so inspired
by the number of Texans across the state, across the political spectrum, who are stepping up
and standing up and speaking out. I think we're going to do something really special here in Texas
in November. So we've seen a massive early vote in Texas on both sides, a record setting early
vote on the Democratic side and on the Republican side, bigger on the Democratic side. What is your
reading of that? Well, and if you really dig into these numbers, what's most exciting to me is the
surge in young people voting in a primary for the first time here in Texas. We're seeing young people
step up all over the state. It's more on wheels like me, but it's also Gen Zers who really feel the
stakes. Not only this new war in the Middle East, but this secret police force that is terrorizing
people all over our state, all over our country, the rising price of everything, not just groceries,
but the rising price of healthcare and of childcare and of housing. People are being locked out of
the American dream. And so people really understand what's in the state here and they're coming together
to be a part of this movement that we're building. I think you're seeing the beginnings of that
with these unprecedented numbers of people showing up to early vote. I think you're going to see
big numbers tomorrow. And then all of that is going to accumulate and really show people what
Texas is made of in November of this year when we flip this state. Texas Senate candidate James
Telleriko, thank you very much for joining us on what turns out to be your final night of
campaigning in the primary election. Thank you very much. I appreciate you. Thank you.
And tomorrow night, Rachel Maddo will lead special election coverage of the primaries in Texas,
North Carolina in Arkansas. MSNOW's election coverage begins tomorrow at 7 p.m. Eastern.
James Telleriko, candidate for United States Senate in Texas, gets tonight's last word.
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