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but our buddy Nick Harris he kind of sent cowboys fans into a frenzy with the report that there's
internal conversations here brine brought us cowboys are hunting linebackers we know that
they've kind of been wiped out when it comes to the free agency unless they want to go with
a bobby Wagner who's an older veteran and maybe that's kind of just a stopgap band-aid
type player but the Patrick Queen stuff we had heard the first week of free agency now is he's
al Sheaier the linebacker from Houston you're starting to hear Jordan Brooks who is a name that
we've floated out before at the trade deadline we thought maybe Miami was trying to move Jordan
Brooks the linebacker there so internal conversation says Nick Harris but not actual movement here
from the cowboys or those other teams yeah I feel bad like I we all kind of talked about that
Nick Harris Todd Archer report as being trading possibilities and you know and we took it as like
okay well let's look let's see what Brooks looks like and let's see what else is here looks like
let's see what these guys you know so we kind of start talking them up we did some evaluations
but it's eternal conversations oh okay so it's not trading for these guys we're just talking
about trading for these guys I got you okay I'm better I'm better prepared now but yeah Nick and
Todd do a hell of a job they really really do but if they were to say hey Dallas is trading for
these guys I'd absolutely believe both of them and I kind of thought that's what we're working on
I think having Brooks on this team would absolutely help this linebacker core when you watch him play
he would be a very good and I'm gonna say usually you say just a bridge to the next guy
but he would be a he would be a solid dependable I better than that I shouldn't even use those
words I should have said he would be one of your better defensive players you know wish if you
to for the trade for him and so and and then to pair him with maybe with over showing and then
to also draft you know another one whether that's Rodriguez Hill CJ Allen Trotter Elliott all
these guys styles all these guys that you and I and Iisha and others have talked about
Bachelorette on our shows yeah I have a veteran presence like that but a guy who actually
goes and makes plays sign me up for that yeah I'm with you man I mean that'd be a huge addition
and he's still relatively young in his prime right now you're talking about a guy who it is not
a stopgap player at all no no it's not a fan yeah yeah it'd be a hell of a signing I wonder if
some of this and and I bring this up because of what the Cowboys did last year where there were
talks with George Pickens and in Pittsburgh or at the very least internal conversations the
price I guess maybe was too rich they don't end up getting a wide receiver in the draft so we had
talked up Teterola Mcmillan the wide receiver from Arizona well he doesn't get to the Cowboys
there at 12 so Caroline ends up taking him at eight they come away without drafting a wide receiver
they circle back they make the trade for George Pickens I think in a perfect world you'd like to
get this done before the draft and maybe these other teams would to try and get the asset now
but I I wonder some of these stuff this stuff happens following run to a month away now do you
kind of let the draft play out do you see if they end up landing or a linebacker is there a trade
back possibility so you pick up an extra two maybe it's in 92 maybe a Josiah Trotter slides to
you there from Mizzou if you're lucky enough you know and you come away with a linebacker you like
or you circle back in and in reignite some of those trade topics afterwards I go for it now man
I go for it and I try and get this thing done I kind of try and strike while the irons hot
you know John Eric Sullivan the general manager in Miami clearly him and Jeff Halfley they
they inherited players those aren't their guys and I kind of feel like they're kind of stock
pilot picks to to do something to retool their team I shouldn't say retool it's like really
rebuild their team with you know Chris Greer and those folks they had some problems that I don't
think that was a terribly talented poor roster really surprised the coaching stuff didn't work out
for them that well man that's just kind of a shocking way of kind of ending it all but the quarterback
situation kind of was in flux too but the dolphins I get on the phone and I'm trying to get this
done now I'm not waiting to laugh to the draft because I'm trying to be proactive in a way that like
okay if I say I go out and I get this linebacker if I get Brooks now I know okay this is the kind
of linebacker I got now I need to pair him with what kind of other linebacker so I'm I'm trying
to be very proactive in making sure it's like well I got this guy and man it's it's not I can't
find another Brooks or I can't you know a way I just drafted a Brooks wait I need another guy
just go ahead no I just you go ahead and and make the deal you have an idea of the player you got
him in fold and now you turn around and you say okay who who's the best who who works with this guy
that that helps us scheme wise so I'm not waiting around because you know waiting around maybe
the price goes up you know and Dallas's Dallas has had a Dallas has had a real problem I mean yeah
we were offering him for a five to you earlier but you're waiting around now he's going to cost
you a four now he's going to cost you a three you know and I don't think I don't Dallas
Dallas has had a history if you're Miami and they're waiting around Dallas has a history of giving
you more than probably value for your pick so I but if I'm Dallas I get on this one right now
well I mean it's in Miami's picking right ahead of you there at 11 and Rubin Bain Jr who just
worked out yesterday was scheduled to have a dinner in a visit with Miami as well so you got
a wonder is that a team right ahead of you the lane was a guy that there were reports out of
a South Beach the corner from Ellis you that they weren't interested in maybe you don't have to
worry about that but you're you're I always say like kind of navigating mine fields here and Miami
so maybe I could pluck one of your dudes right ahead of you what about I think a team you absolutely
have to worry about and I think they have the same issues you have is the Cincinnati Bengals
no and that's it and that's a 10 and so I'm kind of like Kansas City might be where and
hell Kansas City we need to see what they're going to do but I think that I think Kansas City might
be a team if you want to draft some defensive players maybe Kansas City takes defensive players
they need secondary help right they've completely lost two owners dismantled their corners
situation so yeah I mean when you start to sit down and we'll put the team needs together here
pretty soon but I I just wonder Cincinnati absolutely loves LSU players it just as always has
the Brown family you know if you look at Chase and Burrow I mean they have a that Andrew Whitworth
I think they drafted way back in the day Cincinnati you know then he went to the Rams he's LSU
player they've had LSU players go through there so this might be something that if you're talking
about delaying or you know you know Miami but Bane I mean they're they're they're they're defense
was historically bad as your defense was historically bad so it might Miami might not be the deterrent
in this who you want might want to get like Cincinnati's the team it maybe holds your cards
whoever Cincinnati takes is going to hurt you I think unless it's an offensive player
yeah they're they're they're in line to take a defensive guy so I I think I think you could go
10 and 11 both can hurt you back to back I think Dallas has to be ready for that and if they've
got a plan where they don't like who they're they're out at 12 then they they need to they need
to be on the phone if they start to feel that since and if they get the word that Cincinnati and
Miami both are taking defensive players then they might need to think about okay what's our what's
our strategy here if you know what's our strategy here if we if we lose a couple of guys right
in front of us yeah you might need to have some feelers put out your old buddy Kellyn Moore
they're no Orleans yeah yeah I yeah there's there's there's I think to me there's there's there's
three teams in a row that could take defensive players right would you would do you include
kids sitting there Kansas City 100% I think they they got to be looking at defensive line I think
they've got secondary no question I mean wide receiver they definitely need so that's the only
area in an offensive line I feel like they could always use some help if one of the top tackles fell
but I they all three of those teams without a doubt I think defense is going to be it could be
it could be it could be a rough 30 minutes for you guys yeah if you're if they're the cowboys because
you're going to have to probably sweat 9 10 and 11 for defensive players my only hope was since
in Addie is they do some weird things and we'll draft just like rates he dudes like I'm
areas mims from Georgia who barely plays but he's super physically talented some our steward
last year so can they take one of these guys that you'd like like TJ Parker from Clemson
Hendrick fall from Auburn or a Peter Wilson Clemson I mean hey maybe maybe Caleb banks from Florida
I mean I think that he might not be in the consideration anymore because of the broken foot
that he suffered but that's been my hope is maybe since he takes one of these guys you're like
if you about but you see the traits there is they have a history of doing some wild picks
well they're a very they're a very coach driven personnel department because they have one of
the smaller scouting staffs in the league and it's a family run business where Katie Blackburn is
very involved the daughter of you know my day kicks off of the refreshing socio synergy drink
then straight to the gym pre get pick up back home to meal prep time from a fire station shift
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socius.com I think daughter of Pete brown there in my mind have been Paul I don't know when she's
she's a daughter one yeah she's one of the she's a daughter of I get to get that straight in my
head before I kind of talk about that and out myself but Katie's really involved in personnel
her husband's actually involved with us the team you know the the elder browns are involved with
the team you got the toe wins involved both Bill and Duke Tobin involved so and then the head coach
with the coaches they send those coaches out like scouts you know they'll they'll they'll take
that's why for years I've always kind of respected them they'll take the like the kind of the
the fringy player because maybe the maybe the fringy player with character because these coaches
are like they don't care much about the carry will coach a guy you know right the Joe the Joe
mixins of the world and people like that we'll we'll we'll take a we'll take a character guy
because coaches think they could coach that stuff out of guys where scouts are a little bit more
I don't know if we want to take this guy yeah so so but that you're right they'll take some they'll
take some kind of those picks to make you scratch your head a little bit but then again also they'll
take they could take a march a they'll take tomorrow yeah they'll end up hitting on T Higgins you
know they'll end up hitting on some decent ones no question all right a couple of other things
just to finalize before we move into the knee and Julia mailbag SMU pro day went down and
Dorsey was there cowboys are linked to a couple the SMU receivers Jordan Hudson not the
girlfriend of Bill Belichick but the six one former Garland native uh and I watched him
it was the other night and he I saw him play against SMU SMU played Miami Clemson in a Louisville
he dominated Miami Bryant I mean I have yet to see him I've got just got my watch list I need to
make sure that you're going back heavy this week right oh it's yeah we got the quarterbacks coming
up yeah we're we we we buckled through some edge rushers yesterday which my list of edge rushers
is like you know when you get when you get when you get a hundred and eighty players like in
40 of them are edge rushers you're like what the hell am I doing it's unbelievable in that edges
it is an unbelievable amount but yeah I need to make sure but if you're talking like you say in
Vatch and I talk about this and we talk about it on the stack competition how important is the
competition you know I remember my days in Green Bay Ron Wolf the Hall of Fame General Managers
like hey uh watch a player from Florida State would give me the Miami game yeah give me yeah
give me the games you know it's yeah if you want to build tape you know and people accuse me of
always getting down on the you know the other the other schools that aren't Florida State and Florida
Georgia and Alabama but you know you do watch the competition like I used to we used to bet that
Miami Florida State game in the 90s was that was much to watch because that was competition
and now days two with the playoff games you can you can get some really good matchups throughout
the thing but it's nice to hear I'm glad to hear that uh so many in our own backyard uh
has got the attention of the Cowboys and I'm sure we'll probably hear about him maybe even a Dallas
Dallas Day guy coming up here pretty soon yeah he's a fun watch he's a good player that would be a
nice pick third day three Cowboys look like maybe that's the area where they could take a
wide receiver tight end is also one that maybe they three they're looking at a tight end Michael
Trigg the Baylor tight ends did his pro day he had a really poor vertical then this guy's an
athletic freak Michael Trigg I think we've talked about him either on this show maybe both in the stack
I know we definitely did on the stack I like him a lot the issue is I think he's got to want it uh
you know he get put some feelings out there with Baylor there's some you know when he when he's
on and he's checked in Michael Trigg has the talent to be really special right not and he's
kind of can be a me guy a little bit you know that's that's the kind of things you got to watch and
how do I make sure he's engaged at all times uh but London Wells was out there working him out so
I do wonder if that's a possibility when we start talking you know rounds four through seven you
got three picks there in the fifth round and the tight ends do stretch nicely in this class you
know that might be a position we haven't highlighted a ton but the Cowboys could be looking at
on day three yeah I really like uh you're you mentioned that I know on the stack we did a deal
where we were talking about Stowers from Vanderbilt and Claire from Ohio State and I know that uh
I don't know if you've had a chance to look at Jolly from uh from uh North Carolina state
yeah him and Rouch from Stanford are both Rouch Rouch is another one I mean I have them right there
and the thing that you told me about Trigg from Baylor uh it it it perk my ears up because
I'm thinking whoa whoa wait a minute now yeah guy that athletic that doesn't want it um that man
as a scout you don't want ever hear a football ops or a coach or some or a strength coach say this
this guy doesn't love the game that's that's a real real issue right there there's super talented
guys but man this game is hard to play even when you love it it's hard to play if you don't love
it it's it's a really really hard game to play all right let's get into Dean Julia mailbag you are
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