
About this episode
In this episode, Anna Rose and Nico Mohnblatt speak with Goblin Oats from Tonk and grjte from Bain Capital Crypto to explore the emerging world of local-first architecture.
Goblin shares the evolution of Tonk from an experimental lab working on blockchain games to a product that enables anyone to build personalised local-first software using natural language. grjte discusses her Groundmist project exploring personal data lakes and the intersection between local-first systems and the AT Protocol. The conversation explores the technical foundations of local-first software, including Conflict-free Replicated Data Types (CRDTs), parallels with blockchain systems, and how ZK proofs show up within cloud-optional architecture.
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- Tonk GitHub
- Groundmist
- Dappicom — NES Emulation in Noir
- Speakeasy
- Automerge CRDT
- AT Protocol
- Ink & Switch: Local-first software
- Homomorphically Encrypting CRDTs
- Beelay - A new sync protocol for Automerge
- Jess Martin - The last mile of Local First
- Local-First Conf 2025
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