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Greg, you're a words person.

You choose the right words.

You are precious about words.

Where are you on the following?

Because I have not been able to correct something.

When somebody who I love says the wrong word,

I will correct them in order for them not to do it in the future.

But the response has been on a couple of different occasions.

Don't be an asshole.

You know what I meant.

And if you know what I meant,

you're being an asshole if you correct me.

But I'm not correcting them to make them feel smaller in that moment.

I'm assuming that they don't want to keep doing that

around people who don't love them.

So they don't make that mistake.

Yes.

And so where are you on this?

Can you lend a verdict on this?

Yeah, that's a tough one because I've been in that situation.

Like if somebody says a non-word like irregardless,

I want so much to correct them and just say regardless.

Hold on, hold on.

No, that's a word, that's a hundred percent.

It is a word.

Look at where you're at.

Look at where you're standing.

Look where you drove to.

Irregardless, absolutely a word.

Okay, okay.

I don't think it is.

So I don't say, I don't correct them.

I don't say it's not irregardless.

It's regardless.

But if it's the misuse of a word that I just can't abide,

then now I'll give you an example from yesterday's show.

You referred to jaws as a horror movie.

I would argue jaws is not a horror movie.

It's the number one horror movie of all time,

according to people who classify horror movies.

But I disagree with them.

Okay, you can disagree, but it is.

Like it's...

Well, what's an example you would use where you correct someone

over misuse of a word?

I mean, I do it all the time.

Whenever people misuse words, you're right about irregardless.

I think Kevin James called his terrible special

irregardless purposely because it's not a word.

And while I appreciate Trista's general comfort level around here,

she came in today with flip flops and socks, which I love.

And a dog.

They're slots.

She's still a little more careful than I'd like to be

because she does.

She's been politely about not correcting me

when I get words wrong.

It's true. Like, I am really a bitch.

Truly, truly.

Like, one of the meanest people you've ever met.

Oh.

And I've been mean since birth.

And my mom is very similar to Dan.

We had the encyclopedia out.

And we were correct.

We still correct each other.

It's Iran.

I mean, don't be a roob.

Don't be a roob.

It's Iran.

You sound like a hazy.

It's not Iran.

It is Iran.

I do and have always called it Iran

since I discovered it many, many years ago for the first time.

But I don't pronounce it Iran.

Also, don't run.

You didn't...

Wolf.

I can't hide. We're in shadow show.

You did hide. You hid under the desk.

But nobody can see you.

Why didn't you correct me on Iran when I said I ran?

I feel I've been doing it too much.

And I did it to start my first day here

back in the Christmas time when I said it's organ

and it's Louisville.

And you liked it then.

I'm like, how many times can I use this?

Because it's not really...

It's not really a bug.

It's a feature of my personality.

And if I'm allowed to do it, I'm going to do it.

We're going to rock out.

Welcome to my life, guys.

I think it's a good feature.

I think we need more of it.

I think you correcting me

and me getting it wrong

is an absolute winning position for everyone but me.

Which reminds me...

But your power.

Yeah, well, but, you know,

this is a good time for men in power

to be disabused of that power.

This is a good time for you.

This is the Don Levittar Show with this two-guts podcast.

I would like a verdict here from Zez and Greg Cody

about how I'm supposed to feel.

And I'm specifically asking you to

because you're long-time veterans of the market

and you know what the navigations are

around relationships when you cover people that you respect

but you also have to be critical of them over the years.

This show has gotten me in trouble with the Miami Heat

because it sounds the way that it was aggregated

like I was the first to suggest in this market ever

that Eric Spolstra and Pat Riley

should be in some trouble.

That is not something I've ever suggested

but given Mike's general rise in the media business,

Don Lemmon shouted him out the other day

after going after Boomer Asayasin.

Excuse me?

Don Lemmon shouted out Mike Ryan

because he's like, did you see what Mike Ryan

of the Levittar Show did to Boomer Asayasin?

And now I've got aggregated headlines in this market

making it seem like I'm turning up the heat

on Pat Riley and Eric Spolstra

when that's not what happened yesterday.

That was Mike Ryan turning up the heat on it.

The headline says that that's what happened.

How am I supposed to feel about this?

That says Dan Levittar Show.

But read the sub headline, read it out loud.

You can't see it.

After another underwhelming season,

Dan Levittar is looking to turn the heat up

on Miami Heat Head Coach Eric Spolstra.

Pretty straightforward.

Unfair.

I like that mid is now being used in that form.

Look how far we've come.

There you go.

That's not coming far.

I don't want like what am I supposed to do with that?

Answer my question.

What am I supposed to do with the fact

that words are being attached to me

because they were set on the show?

Even though I was pretty strong in saying

no one in this market has ever said that about Spol and Riley

and no one in this market ever will say that

about Spolstra and Riley.

But you kind of made it sound like we should.

I think you stick to your guns.

Say what you feel.

But I did say what I felt yesterday

and it got turned into that.

You're ready to turn the heat up.

Face it.

Just shift the heat to Mike Ryan

who's not here to defend himself.

I was going to say I saw the the visual.

It was 99% Mike.

I didn't see you in it once.

I saw Greg in it a couple of times too.

Uh oh.

Yeah, but the headline is what's most important.

Yeah, I mean, the subhead's not helping me.

The subhead just says that Dan Levitt

it says flatly.

He is looking to turn the heat up

on Miami Heat head coach Eric Spolstra.

Now Spo is somebody who does not.

He's very polite, very professional with the media

but doesn't have very much use for me.

And just doesn't want to sit down

and do a South Beach session

even though I think he would be interesting.

He just over the years.

He doesn't dislike me,

but he's not interested in helping me do my job.

And he's not interested in opening.

Not a shenanigans guy.

He's not.

And you run strictly in shenanigans.

So like when he's when you see a serious man

who's about his business, who stands on business,

he looks at you not standing on business,

standing on shenanigans.

And what he's supposed to say.

Look at this guy.

Stand on shenanigans.

Big fat Dan Levitt's heart over here.

What have I got to do?

What have I talked to him about?

What have I talked about?

I've told you guys,

I've told you guys this story before.

This is something I've never learned the lessons on.

Okay.

You guys, some of you guys don't know this story.

Original Marlon's manager,

Renee Latchman.

They're 30 and 31 in their inaugural season

through 61 games.

It's pretty good.

And he comes,

and I've written something off of the game they lost

that questioned all of his fifth inning decisions.

And so when you say,

I stand on shenanigans,

he's upset about something.

He's like, are you going to cover us this way all year?

And I'm like, come on,

Latch, it's sports.

It's fun.

And he's like, no,

this is my business and my life.

And I'm like, you're in your underwear.

Like you're standing,

you're right now in your underwear

when you're yelling at me.

All of this is silly.

I do stand on shenanigans.

And you'd understand why Mario

Cristobal and Eric Spolster

don't have any time for that.

But that shenanigans right there,

those headlines are not fair to me.

It says flatly,

that I'm looking to turn up the heat on Eric Spolster.

And I'm not looking to turn up the heat on Eric Spolster.

You should sue somebody.

It's kind of just like what you didn't say, I feel.

You're kind of like, well,

no one's really willing to have the conversation

in this market.

If it was any other coach

and any other team

with this type of record.

Trista, that was Mike who said that was literally Mike.

But is it one of those deals where,

you know, if it's happening in front of you

and you don't do anything to stop it,

you're a comploser.

Right.

Good Samaritan.

I love how Trista was here and things you said it.

You know what, that good Samaritan law?

I tried to stop it.

What I said when Mike Ryan said,

I've been trying to stop it on Mike Ryan for three years.

What I said and what I will continue to say

is the only other time I've seen a circumstance

like that in this market where somebody in management

felt like they had that kind of bullet proof stability

was Don Shula.

And he lost it

when someone better younger was available.

Jimmy Johnson and wanted the job

unless Greg Popovich

or Brad Stevens wants the job

of running this franchise.

I don't think you can have this conversation.

Yeah, but if you read between the lines yesterday,

I think what you essentially said is that

Spencer is not, does not have Teflon

and if he does the Teflon's cracking.

I said the opposite of that.

Oh no, you said there's no better option.

I'm talking about because he's the best.

It's not because there aren't.

There are no better options.

It's in the quote.

There are no better options.

Yes, I love that two people

are keep telling you that you said it.

I am very frustrated in general

by what this show does to me

as just a mental health hazard.

And where's Roy?

Don't get me started on Roy.

When I talk about mental health hazards,

Roy and Rose have tricked

the person who broke that bottle over Jeremy's head

in the open into a Key West barbecue trip

where they're not here.

They're not participating in 305 day tomorrow.

We have like all sorts of plans tomorrow

and Roy's not participating

because he's fishing

and barbecuing in the keys.

Like what's the point like where

where's the content?

What are we doing?

It's just like a weekend for Roy

to get away and just hang out

and go out here.

They won it last year in their defense.

They won what?

The competition.

It's a big competition.

No, it's big.

Roy's good at barbecue.

Well, we're being real.

Dave Williamson's good at barbecue.

See what y'all doing right now is

y'all hating on the player

instead of the damn game

and shaming out through you.

Well, I'm hating on the fact

that we have to pay for all that

after Roy tried to trick us

into him and Rose going to Finland.

Finland.

Yeah, he wanted to spend time

with Barkhoff in the off season

just going around

to whatever Parade's Barkhoff was partaking in.

I've been trying.

I've been trying.

I'm hating now on the player.

Luckily, you cooler heads

prevailed it didn't happen.

How did this happen?

He'll be out the rest of the week.

No big deal.

He needs a whole week to barbecue.

Yeah, he'll be back Monday.

Well, he's got to barbecue.

Then he's got to fish.

Then he's got to drink over in Key West.

Like, there's a lot of stuff to do.

Then Rose needs to lose a camera.

There's a lot that needs to happen.

Yeah, we love Key West.

I wish I was there with him.

Yeah, we do.

I could be a sous chef

of be handing him like the spatula.

Pay for me to do that next year.

No, the reason all that happened

on yesterday's show is that Mike Ryan,

he doesn't mince words.

Mike Ryan, I thought,

warranted that headline.

I don't think you did.

But Mike Ryan, let's talk about something here

regarding the heat.

Because they beat up the nets last night.

And it really is funny.

The concoction that the NBA has created

with these play-in games,

where making the playoffs or the play-in game

doesn't really mean anything

when you consider the following.

And help me with the teams

that exist in that sport right now

only to lose.

Because the nets are one of them.

So you've got the kings.

You've got the wizards.

You've got the jazz.

The jazz, the pelicans.

The pelicans.

The Pacers are hurt.

But no, Phoenix is not.

Phoenix does not count.

They don't exist.

No, they heat.

They're losing not on purpose.

My point is that there are teams in the sport

that are basically the Washington generals.

They exist because the Harlem Globetrotters

need to make money and have to play somebody.

And so everyone who's any good

is going to make the play-in game

because you've got,

do we name all of them?

Because there are teams in that sport.

The bowls?

The bowls now are tanking, yes.

But it's not just tanking.

Is that they're running around in uniforms

for no discernible purpose?

Like this.

So how many teams are there?

If is it 10?

Because if 20 are going to get to the play-in game,

then all of a sudden you're allowing

every team that's trying into the playoffs.

And if the heat make it there,

it's no accomplishment,

even if they make it there.

And then beat Yannis

and get all the way to the finals

because they make it there by being not good enough.

They're a benefit.

They're a benefactor from a play-off system

that is remarkably generous.

The Panthers would be in the playoffs

if Hockey did it this way.

The Panthers would not be disappointing season,

not Paul Maurice clearly on the bench,

being a very nice man,

but upset.

We're going to play that sound for you in just a second.

But if the Panthers

and plenty of teams make the playoffs in Hockey too,

but if basketball did it the way,

ever Hockey did it the way that basketball does it,

you'd have the Panthers right now

as two-time champions with a chance

to do something in the playoffs.

In the NBA, there's nine teams

that are absolutely tanking.

The Bucks are the one of the teams

that are not in the play-in right now

that are probably still playing

because Yannis is still around.

But there's nine teams that just have no chance whatsoever.

But do you realize how irrelevant

you've made the regular season

when that's what it is?

When everyone's load-managing to get to the playoffs

and all 20 teams that are trying

are going to have

play-off equivalent games with a play-in.

But wasn't the play-in tournament

created in part to prevent tanking

because it gave eight teams

who otherwise might be tanking

a reason to win?

I mean, maybe it's semantics.

I wouldn't say that it was created to prevent tanking.

I think it was created just to

so that more teams late in the season,

more fan-based are involved, have a chance.

So maybe you want to call that to prevent tanking.

I think it's just more about having

more fan-base is involved.

I've been talking while trying to set

Mike Ryan straight for several years

about how hard it is to be relevant

for 30 years the way that the heat

have been as the third winning is franchise

in the sport of the last three decades, okay?

It's only the spurs and the lakers

that have won more games

than the Miami Heat have over the last three decades.

So the nets, last night, go ahead.

Use your entire history of knowing the nets

to find all the times that they've done real winning

because the one time they got to the finals,

they got swept.

And you guys were telling me that Jimmy Butler

against Denver's a failure

that against the lakers in the bubble,

it's a failure.

The nets got swept in the finals.

It's the best they've ever done.

Like as a franchise throughout their entire history,

the Sacramento Kings have gotten close,

got cheated by some refs and shack and Kobe,

but the Sacramento Kings haven't gotten to the finals.

The Wizards haven't gotten to the finals.

The Timberwolves haven't gotten to the finals.

Yeah.

You're kind of comparing the heat

to trash ass franchises.

And I don't feel like that's a great comparison.

The reason that I'm doing that

is over 30 years of being rewarded for losing

at some point.

I believe if I make a chimpanzee,

the general manager of one of those teams,

I'm gonna stumble into a deep run somewhere.

Like you have to be, you're right.

I am doing it to trash franchises,

but look how many I can do it to where I'm saying.

They've never had the heat.

It made the finals twice in the last six years.

I could look at franchises that haven't done that

for 30 years.

The same 30 years.

And so that's why I'm doing it to explain.

Look, it's hard.

Even if I turn over all the players,

all the rosters, all the leadership,

I'm still not having that success.

It's why I'm saying we've been spoiled.

It's why I won't go after spulster in these people.

You're not gonna get better than them.

You did go, you did go after them.

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Done lebertard!

All right, we gotta go back out there,

that was big.

Wake him up.

Uh-oh.

He doesn't want,

he doesn't want to be bothered anymore.

Now it's getting tense

because he didn't need that as a result.

He needs something to happen.

You can see it,

mother episode.

Can we bother,

are we bothering you right now?

Turn on your microphone, Greg.

My microphone's on.

Stugats.

Paint the scene.

The paint the scene is,

I gotta go to work.

Good night.

This is the done lebertard show,

with this Stugats.

Let's play that Paul Maurice sound,

uh, real quick,

because Zazlow and everyone here is hurting,

because the panthers are basically,

you understand over the last two years,

they have not,

they've been the best in the sport,

but they're still good enough.

They are every bit as good as the Miami Heat are.

Whatever it is you think the heat are,

the panthers are that,

and it's being considered a wildly disappointing season,

even though it,

it shouldn't be.

It's only because of where they placed the standard

the last two years.

Yeah, I mean, I guess the,

the place where it shouldn't be considered wildly

disappointing is because it's not like

there are 500 team coming off

a three consecutive Stanley Cup appearances.

They're a 500 team that has just been

crushed by injuries all season long,

including their best player,

not seeing a single second of ice time this year.

And last night, I think two,

three nights ago was the worst loss

of the season, the game at the islanders,

and last night was,

and the season ended that night,

but last night I think is a sign of what's to come.

It ended last night for me.

Well, I think last night's a sign of what's to come

the rest of the season,

like I think it's going to get ugly now.

Okay, but you guys,

you guys have been saying for several weeks now

that the Panther season is over.

What did you make?

Paul Maurice is a very nice man,

and I want to get into what it is

that Raheem Moster said to Colin Cowherd

about Mike McDaniels,

but I don't,

Paul Maurice seems to walk a really good rope

between being somebody who's really kind

and really nice,

but also not too much of a player's coach.

Yeah, so last night,

this is like late in the first period,

and this is from TNT Sports,

and you got Panger.

Darren Pangs doing the in-game interview with Paul Maurice,

and it's funny because the Panthers lost five.

One last time,

Bob Rossi was actually really good.

Two of them weren't at the end, of course.

Bob was really good,

and so here is Paul Maurice on his team's effort,

and apparently he lets everybody know

that Bob Rossi is the only one who was showed up.

I like that to know over Panger at all.

Two, one.

You can't play that game.

Nobody plays that game and wins,

so I don't like it.

Your goal-tender's bailing you out.

That's a good news.

Bob has been fantastic,

so we just got to get the rest of them.

Maybe I'll get him up the ice

in the middle, see if he can toe it right,

because you only got with hands tonight.

He's got pretty good hands.

Bob, get up the ice!

Thanks coach.

I love that guy.

He's staring at the camera on the way out, too.

He's staring across the ice at the camera.

He's such a nice man, Paul Maurice.

But he's so angry.

Was he mad there?

Was he doing big?

No, he's angry.

He's angry and he's trying not to be a dick.

Went from angry to let me do a little stand-up set here for you.

He plays both sides.

I think Paul Maurice can be a hard-ass.

I agree with what you say.

I don't think he's considered to be a player's coach.

Oh, but he's a nice man.

He's a very nice man.

But when I think of nice man,

okay, let's do this real quick, okay?

Because here are the comments from Raheem Mostert

and for Dolphin fans who want to partake in confirmation bias.

He's saying all of the things that you would want

said about Mike McDaniels now that it has failed and he is gone

and I legitimately fear what he's going to do next as a coordinator

because he's clearly an inventive offensive mind.

Like I have rarely seen a coach in this market

dismissed as a failure when he has shown me something

that is a valuable skill set that is empirical.

That man can coach offense.

That is not up for dispute.

So Mostert says to Colin Cowherd,

quote, he's a great coach.

If guys are talking, he'll listen and give them some advice.

But head coach wise,

when you have a coach that is so player friendly,

it doesn't really mix all that well.

Look at the coaches in history,

not just in the NFL of all of these different sports franchises.

They have coaches that implement toughness, resilience,

and that's something that he kind of missed the mark on

in being a head coach.

He called him nonchalant, laid back a player's coach

and he said that players respond better to a head coach

whose attitude is we're getting the job done

and it's my way or the highway.

I hate hearing a player say this

because I'm constantly objecting to how it is

that adult human beings are infantilized,

that the guys with muscles need a brain

to teach them toughness.

Like it bothers me.

Yeah.

And I understand why it is that it happens.

I don't think of Pete Carroll as one example

as somebody who is so tough that he's not a player's coach.

I think all of us here would want to work for a player's coach.

And this Mostert is making it sound like

he can't be great unless someone else makes him tough.

I'm sorry, I have to correct you.

It's Mike McDaniel, not Mike McDaniels.

It's Josh McDaniels.

Right. That's a Cuban thing though, Trista.

Like, we put S's at the end of things

that don't need to be there.

It's like the heats, like sometimes we say things like that

where just like, yeah, it comes out of nowhere.

Yeah, it's because it's a play out for me, Dan.

Thank you, Tony.

I appreciate that, but I have been adding S's.

This is an age thing.

This is not a Spanish thing.

Maybe I appreciate it.

It is a Spanish thing though.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, but it's an old, it's an old person Spanish thing.

If I call that look, man, retire me on the spot

if I start calling them the Miami heats.

I'll let it play on for that.

Also, it's kind of tied back, Greg.

You said that Paul Marisa is a hard-ass coach.

Can you give me some examples of some soft-ass coaches?

Wow.

Well, the argument right now is that Mike McDaniel

was a soft-ass coach, right?

I mean, that's what they're saying.

But they're retrofit where he most

heard his retro-fitting that to McDaniel

fizzling in the last couple of seasons.

Where he most or wasn't saying anything bad

about Mike McDaniel when he was scoring 20 touchdowns

and when they were putting up 70 points on Denver

and when Tool was the, made the pro bowl

and everything looked good for a minute.

But now that they've changed coaches,

you look back and you say, all right, here's what happened.

He was too soft.

But where are you guys on this, right?

Because the problem with this to me

is most of it is now giving voice to something

that most fans already thought about McDaniel

and furthermore, it's what most fans want their coach to be.

They want their coach to be, especially in football,

drill sergeant guy, military guy.

And I don't think that works with today's 20-year-old.

Isn't that what got Brian Flores fired?

They went the opposite when someone was tough.

I think that Brian Flores, though, was tough on everybody.

He was also tough up.

Like, tough down is one thing.

If you're being tough up when the owner doesn't want you to be,

that I assure you, the owner doesn't want a hard-ass with him.

That's why I'm scared to correct you.

The thing is when you look at sports and you look at politics,

when you look at whatever it is, like,

there's one side that gets in power.

And then it's like, man, this doesn't work this way.

Let's go the complete opposite way, right?

Brian Flores was such a hard-ass.

We had to go to the complete opposite end of the spectrum

and get a cool laid-back guy from California.

Now, that doesn't work.

Now, you got to get somebody kind of in the middle.

So, it's like, half way.

Look at the same thing with literally half.

Literally, literally.

But, like, Denver had Mike Malone, hard-ass coach,

got him to a championship, won a championship,

then after that, fizzled out.

They did get literally because he's also small.

So, they literally got the halfway point

between McDaniel and Flores.

He got someone who is half of both of them.

I don't know.

I know McDonald is boring, okay?

And what is Sireani?

Like, help me, okay?

Andy Reed doesn't strike me as somebody

who's, who's, I mean, he gets into his fights

with Travis Kelsey, but I think that Andy Reed

strikes me as friendly.

I may just be doing that on this.

You don't think Hardass, Andy.

No, you think Hardass, Dan Campbell.

You think Hardass, Dan Campbell.

He's a player's coach.

Yeah, he's a kneecap fighter.

That's true.

That's what you want publicly.

That's why Jeff Halflay, in the wake of Mike McDaniel,

that's why Jeff Halflay comes in and uses words

like we want to be physical.

We want other teams to be afraid of us

and not want to play us.

That's what you have to say.

That's coach speak, particularly when you're a coach

replacing a coach who was considered self.

But do you believe, like, the part that I'm most objecting to

is that the people who have gotten to the top of that sport,

okay, fighting other men for money with violent.

The idea that the guy on the sideline

is going to make them tougher.

Like, it bothers me that the idea that the guy,

that the guy who looks like Pete Carroll or Andy Reed

is going to, he's going to make Patrick Mahomes tougher.

But Dan then, why do we have coaches?

Why do we have people to push us?

Because somebody has to control the minutes.

Somebody has to manage the egos and the personalities.

You can have discipline while being an ally.

Look, you've heard me say this before, okay?

I believe that these coaches are in charge

but should act for the very best players

as administrative assistants.

How can I help you be better?

You're the one who's got the football.

What can I do to make you be better?

And I'm not, I'll acknowledge that some guys

need tough love, discipline and maturity.

But to say a whole locker room does,

like to say that ever, it insults the locker room

to say that all of those grown men who are tough

and violent for a living are in tough enough

because the coach isn't making them tougher.

I think athletes in general still want to be fired up

and inspired.

That's why whether it's from a player or a coach,

that's why Ray Lewis's pre-game speeches are legendary

because athletes want that.

Yeah, but Foxworth said he got tired of those

after the first couple that they all started

to sound the same.

Like not everyone needs that.

I mean, we used to hear the stories from Tim Hardaway,

right about Pat Riley.

It's like, yeah, it's great motivation for me.

I think the perfect storm of the coach

that was needed, that wasn't necessarily needed,

but needed a lot was Mike Vrable last year.

Him being a player from that organization,

a player's coach, and a little bit hard-assed,

worked wonders for the Patriots.

The McDaniel's stuff from where he moster, though,

I think is, I think it's a little bit tired

because, you know, first couple of years,

the McDaniel went in 11 games,

went in 10 games, post season appearances.

I don't know, seemed like the players

were responding pretty well.

And guess when the players didn't respond pretty well.

Well, we realized that Mike McDaniel

may not be as great a coach as the other guys.

And, you know, the offense was kind of figured out

and he wasn't able to, you know,

make the right choice, post with Tyree Keele again.

Well, yeah, well, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Yeah, when their quarterback's brain was scrambled

and their wide receiver no longer was fast,

oh, toughness is a problem now.

Yep.

I mean, what are we doing?

Oh, you're right.

That's why I think it's,

I think it's kind of lame what Raheem Oster

is saying here.

It's a little bit of revisionist reading.

But the overarching issue here with coaches

is that the dolphins are in the exact polar position

from the heat.

The dolphins have been futile for 20 years.

They've done no winning in 20 years

and therefore they cycle through these coaches

every four or five years to try the next guy.

With the heat, it's just the opposite,

which is why Spolstra and Riley have built up

such good will with everybody, with fans, with the media,

because they have a track record.

And when you look at the heat and say,

oh, they haven't won anything in the last four years

because they've only reached the final

and they've only reached play in tournaments,

that's a pretty high standard.

This is why it's also so shocking

that Dan is calling for a serious conversation about Spolstra.

Yeah, it really is.

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How the dooms get more done.

Done lebertard.

You got to know I'm a big Colombo guy.

Slude to that boy.

Okay, I don't think that's proof.

I don't think that's proof.

I think that's a lie.

I don't think that's absolute.

I don't think that is evident.

Slude to that boy.

It's suggest Kim and Flodge.

It suggests that you do has no idea what we're talking about.

And now it's just Googling it.

Still gots.

I'm not Googling in here.

My grandma stayed in the country.

I watched the braves.

I watched Colombo.

I watched Matlab.

I watched Andy Griffith.

Yeah.

I watched the show.

You go to the Pillow Bus.

Damn.

You tell me.

You tell me.

You tell me.

You tell me.

You do.

Back to used to.

VCC done lebertard show with it.

Still gots.

We got a crackstack back here working on a hard to soft coach

meter.

So we're going to put all the NFL coaches in a meter

hard soft, you know, or half.

I don't know what we're calling in the middle, or half.

We're going to call in the middle, halfly.

We're going to, one of the things that.

Is there an E at the end of that halfly?

I'm going to put an S at the end of it, halflies.

Let's find all the halflies that there are in the NFL that

straddle the line right in the middle.

Because I don't want to actually be

absolutist about this.

But I do want to have the conversation with you guys, OK?

About Ron McGill is going to be on with us later.

And their dogs, domestic dogs, do appreciate discipline.

Horses appreciate some forms of discipline.

These are human beings, though.

And that's why I'm objecting to the idea that you coach a

locker room and everyone in it with my way or the highway.

Because I don't think that that's what Vrable is.

I think Vrable as a, I don't think that's what Dan Campbell is.

I think the optics of that is how they present.

Because fans and media love when the team spokesman face

and voice gives off, I'm in charge.

But I do believe that if you ask Dan Campbell, he would tell you

that all the time he's working to help his players and that

they love and respect him because they know that he's in charge.

But also they know that he cares about them.

Like to me, that's what when I talk about players, coach,

I want more of them because if the coach cares about the employee,

I would think that would get the maximum effort from the majority

of employees.

You're going to have a few talented stragglers who are immature and

need to follow the rules.

And so you put in the blanket rules of you're going to be on time

and you're going to be punished when you're not on time.

And that was a problem with McDaniel.

I understand that I don't think that the dolphins weren't successful

in Kansas City during a playoff game because their players were

late to meetings.

I don't think that that's what was happening.

And I think you guys skip past some stuff on what happened

to Tua where all of a sudden their quarterback goes from statistically

being Patrick Mahomes to somebody who's doing nothing but throwing

the ball behind the line of scrimmage.

So it seems like once again, journalist Zazlow is not getting the credit

he deserves nationally because he reported weeks ago to has gone.

And now everyone's caught up.

Zazlow is not wrong.

He's just early, but he's not getting the credit.

Zazlow is mad about this.

It will come out about it because this happens all the time as Greg

sits there and sits back and laughs and smiles, OK?

You could smile all you want.

The fact of the matter is at least a couple of weeks ago,

I don't keep track of the actual date, OK?

Because it's not really about when it's about just getting things right.

But sometimes when you get things right, as a journalist like myself,

as a reporter, I'd like to get, give me a little hat tip.

That's what the HT is on Twitter.

You do the H, and then you do the slash, and a T, that's hat tip.

Oh, that's what that means.

That's when you give somebody credits.

All right.

Well, hat tip, all right.

Hey, thanks to the tip right there.

I haven't seen one person give Zazlow, I'm at Zazlow,

show on Twitter, I'm a great follow.

I haven't seen anyone do a hat tip to Zazlow

for having the two of you as first.

Now did I designate a pre or post June one cut?

I don't get involved in all that cockamaming nonsense, all right?

But I told you a couple of weeks ago, the dolphins

are going to release to a tongue of my loa.

They're going to eat the cap hit.

And now everyone and their mother

has been saying the same thing for the last couple of days.

How about a hat tip?

All right, so let's get me straight.

Let's get this straight.

What?

When the dolphins benched two with three games left

in the regular season, you read the T-leaves.

You said this is the end of his dolphins career.

Correct.

Or was it after that or before that?

No, when they bench, like it's over.

OK, so basically you reported what everyone was thinking.

No, that was an opinion when I did that.

That was, I don't know immediately once they bench him

that week that they're going to end up cutting him.

Maybe that was my opinion at the time,

but a couple of weeks ago, I straight up said right here,

I said, put it on the crawl.

I'm reporting it.

The dolphins are going, I'm tired of waiting.

The dolphins are going to cut to a tongue of my loa.

They're going to eat the money.

That's a report, Chris.

Cody, why are you smiling in Zazlow's face?

He hasn't gotten one of these wrong.

He's broken all of these stories,

and he's getting no credit for the break.

And I'm not really sure what to think about you.

Give me bunny ears.

You know, when I'm talking about my report marks,

it wasn't bunny ears.

He gave you a big difference.

You reported.

He gave you air quotes.

OK, and your report was taken as disrespect.

Your report was based on what source?

Or was it just a feeling of yours?

I've already told you this before.

I can't believe we're rehashing this.

I'll reveal a source.

I would go to prison before releasing my source.

I doubt that.

OK, your point is well.

Oh, wait a minute.

You'd go to prison.

Just because you wouldn't protect a source,

don't push that on me.

I would go to hell and back, to defend,

to protect any of my sources.

So all my sources out there, I will always protect.

All I'm saying, and I'm saying,

I happen to be saying this about you,

but I could be saying it to a number of journalists.

When you're reporting, and I'm using air quotes,

when you're reporting that a two-a-tonguevaloa

with a concussion history coming off his worst season,

benched toward the end of the season.

When you're reporting that they're going to divest themselves

a tool, not a big news break on that.

Wow.

It's sort of like reporting that the Florida Panthers

are not going to make the playoffs when they're eight points back.

No, that's a prediction.

All right, like that's a fact.

I can't believe Zaz has to explain this to you, the journalist.

Right.

And if I'm not exactly going out on a limb,

you know, with that, they're going to release two.

Why did it take all this time until just a couple days ago

for Pellicero and Shepter and Rappaport

to finally come out with the news that everybody seemingly

knows, and that's that two is going to be released.

I heard Dave Hyde say this morning.

Weeks ago.

OK.

I think it's been pretty obvious for weeks.

You say that, but he had it.

He did have it.

I put my name on it.

He put his name on it.

He said, put it on the scroll.

I'm reporting it before all the insiders.

And now people are reading tea leaves.

Let's show people what social media is mad about these days.

Because Tua's birthday was a couple of days ago,

and we didn't celebrate it properly around here.

And let me see if I can find the happy birthday.

Happy birthday to him.

I don't care.

Good luck.

We've already done more than the dolphins.

A lot of people noticed that the dolphins

did not wish to a happy birthday,

but they did wish Willie Gay Jr. happy birthday.

A couple of weeks ago.

And what do you make of that, Greg?

Because a lot of people are using that as, you know,

to confirm the Zazzle report from weeks ago.

Oh, from them.

They are using the circumstantial evidence to say,

well, that's clearly a sign.

Once you're not wishing him happy birthday, clearly he's gone.

Yeah, how many more signs do we need

before we all agree that they're going to part way?

When we're signs, you all need it.

I didn't need any more.

If you're them, though, don't you just wish him a happy birthday

to avoid all this dialogue?

It very well could.

I don't know who runs a social media.

It could very well have just been an oversight.

I doubt it.

I also think it's ridiculous that what are we in grade school?

Where the elementary school teacher wishes happy birthday

on the chalkboard to whoever.

What are we in grade school?

Where the player needs to be taught, how to be tough,

how to be an adult.

Yeah, yeah, we're in grade school.

Yes, chalkboard.

So we're congratulating happy birthday to all our players.

Except for the quarterback who's just starting.

Well, only because they can't trade him.

But he's that bad that they can't even

give him a happy birthday.

Well, I mean, look at what the Arizona's doing

with Kyla Murray.

It's tough to trade somebody when the rest of the league

knows that he'll be a free agent in a couple of weeks.

And Greg, could you just keep your mouth closer to the mic?

I feel like you're kind of just bleeding out.

When he starts to get excited about a point, he brings it back.

What is that?

So Zazlow mentioned the HT and taught all the youngsters out there

that that is a, well, they know that all the old people out there

that that's a hat tip.

Thought it was hashtag.

A hat tip, though, is from another time.

What are we thinking?

1920s, 1920s, 1940s, the tip of the hat as a salute.

But did you guys see what happened with Timberwolves'

podcaster, Dane Moore, where when we talk about giving credit

to people, right?

ESPN, on occasion, doesn't do a great job

of giving credit to others.

And Dane Moore went into the Timberwolves locker room

and got some sound from Anthony Edwards

about not liking to play basketball

with all of the double teams.

And ESPN asked him, hey, can we use that sound?

And he's like, I'm going to tell you

what I tell you every time you get in my DMs.

No, you shouldn't have fired all those reporters

if you wanted the sound from the locker room.

You cannot have the sound.

And so he just didn't allow them to have the sound.

And he made the principal stand on behalf of other journalists

saying, don't fire your reporters

if you want the exclusive sound.

Oh, look at this.

They're getting the McAfee applaused back there.

And Tony is going Hulk-O-D.

Easy stance for that guy.

Yeah, easy stance for that guy.

Yeah, but no one else is doing it, but easy stance.

But no one else is doing that.

It's not easy when ESPN hits you, like Abraham.

We like that one.

Can we use it?

And you got the gumption to tell them for Abraham.

You tell us off.

You fired my hunger two days ago.

I like that, bro.

It's not a person asking you.

It's the four letters.

Sometimes it's easy to be the right guy, but hey, he did it.

Well, was ESPN going to give him credit?

They sometimes do, and sometimes don't.

Many people have an issue with that.

But in this particular case, somebody is taking a stand.

I have expertise on this matter.

They've hit me a couple of times to use some of the stuff

that we've-

And did you do it?

Yeah, I've seen it too.

I mean, sometimes they give us credit,

and sometimes they just use the content.

So hey, I feel my bro.

Ju-ju not making the stand that Dane Moore has taken.

Ju-ju just said you can more the mayor,

not on behalf of fired hymns in hers.

Ju-ju has not made any-

Well, this was from that in 22, brother.

I had something that ESPN hit me up about, too,

that they asked me if they could post.

And I said, yeah, that's fine.

You could post it.

It went viral, whatever.

It was actually the Houston Texans heading over to Baltimore

in the playoff game, CJ Stroud versus Lamar Jackson.

I had a picture of somebody who the Houston Jersey

with the 4-4, number 4-4, with still tipping on the back.

They love that.

That went crazy.

And they're like, can we use this?

And I was like, yes.

And they didn't tag me, no HT.

You know anything about that?

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