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Tony got to stand next to a major league baseball player yesterday and was startled by how large

O'Neill cruise is. Where you guys been hiding this guy? I mean, Dan standing next to him,

I'm looking at him like this dude could play power forward in the league. That's how big he is.

He's massive. They have him at 248. He's not 248 by the way. It's like 260 to 65. Easy. But

everybody lives a minute to even look at him like damn sand these huge holy shit.

Pool is huge in a different way. Well, the reason he's been hiding is because he's in Pittsburgh.

He's a pirate. Stinky good team this year. Put it on the pole at Levitard show. That's not

true in any way Jeremy. The Pittsburgh could make a wild card on Pittsburgh. Really good pitching.

Pirates are never any good. Okay. All right. Let's come back to this and game 162 and see if they're

sniffing around that wild card race. Put that next to the Washington Wizards playoff run of next year.

File that one away. Yeah, these predictions that you guys make that no one's going to remember

because they're going to play outs. They said they're a good team. They're on the right direction.

And go through that file and please throw away any of the Orlando magic takes that I had from

a few months ago. Dave Damacek will hold me to it. I'll tell you that. He's been talking to me

about the Pittsburgh Pirates since January. I wasn't alone with those magic takes, but I'll take

the fall. You weren't alone, but Tony, you just corrected yourself on what you alleged to have

said about the Wizards by saying the Wizards are a good team. They're not a good team. All right.

I said they were heading in a good direction. No, you just said and he's early. He's not wrong.

He's early. Thank you. You said a second ago that they were a good team. It just it just came out

of your mouth. It wasn't not there. It wasn't a good direction. It was I'm listening to what you

say. You're not listening to what it is that you say. You said that might be fair. I don't think

anybody else was listening to you either from what I can tell, but I don't want to talk about the

Wizards. I don't think Jeremy. I want to talk about the pirates either is O'Neill Cruz named

after Paulo Neil because his father was a major legal. Roy is nodding his head vigorously. Yes,

I didn't realize that you were watching Pirates baseball this way. But Roy, Roy seems to know that

this is absolutely so. I was asking the question. I'm not sure. So I believe I heard that on

MLB, the show last year's edition of the video game. He said it as like a tidbit. Thank you.

You just retained it. It just it just stayed there in your head somewhere. Yeah, I know it's

interesting. And so Tony comes in and it's like where have they been hiding this guy? Meanwhile,

you know his entire family history. This is the down laboratory show with this two-gots podcast.

Over the years as the audience has heard my increasing exasperation with how strong and

instant takes have gotten. Okay. And I really don't know how you can have a very strong opinion

on Malik Willis, but I am seeing a great deal of very strong opinion on both sides on the dolphins

getting Malik Willis. It's hope. That's part of it. It's also encouraging that they actually have a

plan. Yesterday, 24 hours ago on this show when I was saying I thought that Malik Willis was where it

is that this was headed after they waved to a you had mentioned that people were talking about

Arizona as his favorite destination. They have the better skill players. Tua ends up in Atlanta now.

They have the better skill players, but the opinions on Malik Willis range from chase Daniel saying

quote Malik Willis is worth it all for the dolphin. There's on his tip. The film is so much better

than you think. Timing, timing, touch and anticipation. Meenakheim says he's got a cannon.

Incredible dual threat. Quarterback. Incredible is very strong, but here's Dominic Foxworth on the

other side of this. This isn't the best option out there, but of the available options, it seems like

he's going to have a legitimate chance to prove himself. The problem is this team feels to be

obviously in a rebuild and they're hampered by the big dead money on the Tua contract,

and he's going to be limited. This team is going to be limited. The expectations are going to be

a little lower for this team and the support that he enjoyed in Green Bay when he had those few

successful games over the past couple of years. That's not going to be theirs. We're not sure that

Bobby Slocke is a good offensive coordinator. We haven't seen Waddle carry this offensive

alone. HN, we know it's an explosive big play running back. The offensive line has issues,

the defense has issues, and like we started with the offensive coordinator. The first time

head coach, the offensive coordinator is unproven. The more I examine this situation, it might be

the best that you're going to get. If you only have a small sample size like Malik Willis,

Zaz, what is your opinion here? I think they went from super boring and definitely going to be

terrible next year to very interesting. The Dolphin fan now every single week has something to watch,

hoping that this guy is going to be their franchise quarterback and that they found a gem

at a very good price. I mean, the Dolphin fan has never, like Tana Hill was able to run a little

bit, but I like this, like the Dolphin fan has never witnessed a dual threat quarterback. They've

never had the guy who can run and make the fun explosive plays. Yeah, it's new partly for a little

bit. Okay. What are you doing there? But the other feeling was sneaky. Pat White would like a

word. But the other, the other side of it for me is, man, like I, I thought this front office

was going to be a little bit patient with this rebuild. This is not patient at all. This is very

imping. No, no, I don't, I don't think this is impatient because they're in handcuffs, right?

You can say it's a good contract because it's essentially two years, 45 million dollars. You can

get out from under it if it's a mistake, but you're paying for the quarterback position next year,

about 90 million dollars because you've got so much dead cap money into a, and because of that

dead cap money, you have to align it so that if this is a mistake two years from now, you're okay.

You have to get someone cheap because you're paying a lot. You're not, you're paying a quarterback

more than the chiefs are paying my homes by a good amount because you've got two quarterbacks

that you're paying a lot next year. And in a salary cap sport, while he represents only like seven,

Malik Willis represents only like seven percent of your salary cap, which is where you'd love to

have a great quarterback at value, the amount you're paying to a makes it so that this front office

is in handcuffs. And this is the best of the available options. I would have preferred Kyler Murray,

but a guy coming into a system with people that he knows is something that does create that hope

you're talking about a couple of things that I want to point out though. He couldn't beat out

Will Levis in his first two years at Tennessee. He only had 92 dropbacks in Tennessee and was

terrible in Tennessee. Couldn't beat out Levis. Now people are excited about Green Bay, but that's

a conservative offense. Okay, that's a run heavy offense. And they had a good offensive line

in Green Bay. So he was very good down the field in terms of explosive place. People have run the

analytics and say if you take the sample from him in Green Bay and put it out over the entirety

of a season, it's the best quarterback in the league because of how he throws the ball down

field throws the ball down field accurately. But I just don't know how you can have very strong

opinions for a first time starter in year five, who's taken all of 302 snaps in five years.

Loads of bad tape at Tennessee. And I was a huge Malik Willis guy when he was at Liberty,

touchdown connection with CJ Daniels. Like he was awesome at Liberty. And I thought he was going

to be one of the best pro prospects. And he went in to the league, got opportunities with a bad

Tennessee team admittedly. And he straight up could not throw the ball. They did not trust him to

throw the ball. Forget downfield. They didn't trust him to throw the ball for yards. And he was

available for Green Bay on the cheap for a reason. And it took him a while in Green Bay. I think

they traded a seventh for him, right? It took him a minute in Green Bay. And he started because

Jordan loves been in and out a little bit. But last year was really encouraging and a testament to

that being a development position. Him learning the NFL a little bit. And those numbers down field

are really impressive. In terms of hope and the dolphin fan perspective, you're really excited

that they had a plan. They executed it quickly. You thought that this year would be a wasted year.

No, you actually got one of the top two quarterbacks available. You have hope in the front office

because they executed a plan and made Miami somehow desirable for top two quarterback. And you have

a big variable in Malik Willis that could go either way. Like the ceiling's really high with him.

Are the dolphins falling into a trap that Miami Heat does to other teams? We're going to develop

this guy who's going to be really good for us. But then when you get to your team over there and

you pay him a ton of money, he's not going to be that good, right? Like are we worried that

Green Bay's development system and obviously they don't do free agents. They don't do trades

like they draft and they develop like that's their M.O. And it's like, is that happening with

Malik Willis where you're going to get here? He has none of the skill players around him like,

oh, who is this guy? I really like the point you made about Dan about the timeline with essentially

it's two year contract. It matches up with the two years that the dolphins run. It's really limiting

the position that this management team is in as janitorial workers trying to clean up this

particular thing. But it lines up with the two years that they're at a major cap deficit because

of two. And then you can kind of either then you have multiple options. Like right now the only

option would have been, hey, hopefully next year we get a good draft pick. Now you have two options.

Either you like Malik Willis or you'll decide to eventually go into the draft. There's not a lot

of precedent for a quarterback who for four years has been a backup extremely small. It's not like

he got six, eight games. Recent, recent, recent precedent because this used to be how quarterbacks

looked all the time at the beginning and be the most normal thing in the world for a quarterback

to have to wait five years to learn the position. But the way that he looked in Tennessee is how my

experience with young quarterback before the last seven years has always been. And I also think

something that's interesting here is and another bad position that this management team inherits.

The single greatest advantage that you can have in that sport since Russell Wilson was winning the

championship in Seattle is you get a good quarterback cheap so that you could build the rest of your

team. This is the opposite of that. Not because of Malik Willis but because of their quarterback

situation. They've got a ton of dead money tied in not being able to know whether they still have

a quarterback or not. That's usually something that will shackle the entirety of your franchise.

You kind of need him to be great and there's nothing to suggest that he's got the help needed

on offense to be great. I want to read you some of these numbers because I want to get

your opinions on whether or not you guys pay attention to some of the advance metrics. This is

from both ESPN and next gen stats. ESPN is saying his numbers Malik Willis's numbers outrageous in

Green Bay is what they're calling them and 86.3 QBR 9.2 yards per dropback a plus 7% completion

percentage over what is expected. Those stats would rank all of them first over the past two seasons

among QBR qualifiers. If he did it over a larger sample and he generated 0.38 EPA per dropback

across 24 and 25 with the packers. That's the most in the NFL. He throws the ball down field

but I don't think the dolphins could get down field without Tyree kill. Do you think the dolphins

can get down field without Tyree kill? Has Waddle proven to you that he's a deep threat without

Tyree kill? He is. Yeah. And he has. He did play on this team. Some without Tyree kill along

side. That's his game. I mean, the thing with Waddle is can his frame hold up. Swider Cever

course bad right now. I mean, I haven't watched a dolphin game where I haven't seen Jalen Waddle

limping to the sidelines and being worked on. I don't know if his body is built for this.

One more stat from Doug Clausen. What Malik Willis did in his only start last season. First quarterback

all time with an 85% completion percentage. 13 plus yards per attempt and 60 plus rushing yards

in a game. First quarterback since Michael Vic in 2002 with 100 past attempts past touchdown,

rushing touchdown and zero incompletions in a first half. That's what people are getting excited

about. They're getting excited about new Michael Vic. One one start is what they're getting

excited about. Tim Michael Vic was the bad thing. Was it against the Ravens? Was it against the

was that start again was the one start against that terrible Ravens defense that was good most

or terrible most of the season. Good the many seasons before that and only good when Kyle Hamilton is

in in their defensive secondary because these these hopes are clinging to something that is a very

small sample. Right not a lot that's that's what I'm talking about right where there's not a lot

of recent precedent for what we've seen or haven't seen from Malik Willis and him becoming the guy

they hope he's going to be but at the same time I I like sighting with the people who have the

information that I definitely don't have. I'm sitting on my couch watching games and talking here

you know like a dope and guys like John Eric Sullivan it's I oh what's he ever shown you before he's

ever been a gentleman I get it but like his livelihood depends on the information he has on

this guy and being right and I usually like to side with those people who have that kind of information.

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analyses. I don't want to mention names TNT, ESPM, you know, oh yeah, they can look

they're not going to make it, you know, even if they're winning, if they lose it in Miami.

I need to calm you down. I need calm down. That's right they lose it in Miami. I don't

got a chance in Boston or they're going to have their ass you know what in Boston, you know.

Stugats. They went wrong. They were, are they going to lose their job? No, are they going to get

a cutting plate? No, what are they going to do? Keep predicting what is the obvious. They're going

to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? They

are going to win it all. This is the done lebertard show with the Stugats.

This is a win for the dolphins because they have a plan at quarterback. I just don't know how

much stronger of an opinion you can have than that because when you say guy can be good elsewhere

but not necessarily here, it takes a great deal to make the quarterback good. I don't love the

Packers receivers. Do you guys love the packers? I love the Packers receivers. The problem is they

can never say healthy all at once, but they're so deep that one guy goes out. You have a revolving

door. No, I'm big on the Packers wide receivers, dude. How about the rest of you because I love Jordan

love. I do. I think he is great, but you love Watson. That's somebody that you love. Yeah,

one when he's healthy and dobs has been good. Jayden Reed is I, I love Jayden Reed.

Other players that sometimes you love even when they're not healthy. Like, man, that guy has heard

us. He's still really good. Yeah, Jayden Reed. He spent most of the year out because he made a

diving attempt and broke his collarbone, but Jayden Reed is like, whenever you need a play, Jayden

Reed is there. No, the wide receivers are really good. They just can't say healthy, but they're

deep so they can survive it. There's a lot of bees, right? There's no A guy in the Packers organization.

Like, that's the way they do it. They do Y receiver by committee. I mean, Watson could probably be

that if he were just healthy enough consistently. Sure, maybe, but like, dubs is their best receiver.

And they also, who's a young wide receiver that they spend draft capital on that golden. Yeah,

like he get that guy sucks. Yeah, but his separation metrics were incredible. Well, you catch the ball

metrics. How about touchdown metrics? How about yards metrics? You didn't get any. How about that?

In that one game against, well, they had two games against Chicago where they collapsed at the end,

but golden had his first touchdown of the season in that game and they ended up losing it anyway.

Again, though, again, we used to have patients about this stuff. A number of first round draft

pick at wide receiver didn't have to be great right off the bat. Randy Moss was, but he didn't

even know how to run any routes. He was just running straight down the field. I believe he had

did. Randy Moss have 17 touchdowns his first season and it was all nine rounds. He didn't know

how to run any other patterns. I think I've got that number wrong. That number can't be that high.

Is it that high? A rookie wide receiver? What is the number? He did have 17 touchdowns as a rookie.

Okay. How old are you? Yeah, well, that's, well, I mean, what? Because it doesn't happen.

Because it was nine routes. Yeah, it was nine routes. He didn't know how to run any other routes.

Again, I still smell the nachos on Jimmy Johnson's breath telling me that John Avery was the

better draft pick when he passed on Randy Moss. I think with Malik Willis in terms of

I know that this was a wide receiver conversation, but Malik Willis, he had a lot of promise

and he was just straight up bad and he was noticeably bad because the team straight up did not trust

him to throw the ball. And even when he comes in an injury relief, while his numbers are very

efficient, he's not a volume thrower. The offense straight up does not trust him to throw the

football. But the floor runs a lot in general, even with Jordan Love. It's a conservative. He runs

a lot and their offensive line is good. Zaz, what did you make here on social media? The dolphins may

have indeed forgotten the birthday of, uh, to, uh, but they did thank him on his way out. Uh,

four-time team captain. Uh, you have called him the greatest bust in franchise history. I think

that's wrong of you to say why because it's too soon. Uh, no, because he led the NFL in yards

per attempt and QB rating in 2022. He led the league in passing in 2023 and he led the NFL

in completion percentage in 2024. Right. They've never had to rebuild though because another player

wasn't any good on their team. They're rebuilding because this one wasn't good. Guys lost their jobs

because this one isn't good. They had the largest cap hit in the history of the NFL because this

guy wasn't good. And let me tell you something. That, Dan, take a look at this. Thank you note

that they put out there. Okay. This graphic. Have you ever seen, uh, a more pathetic graphic? I mean,

four-time team captain. Dan. Well, one-time pro baller. How about we just put pro baller? One-time

pro baller. And why are we thanking him? Thinking him for what? They drafted him number five overall.

They tried to build the franchise around him. They got zero playoff wins. What are we thinking

him for? Why is everything a participation trophy? You're being a little strong in all of your

opinions on to and the part that I don't think is fair about it because I know he was important.

I understand what it is that you're saying. Leeds the NFL in yards per attempt and QB rating in

2022 led the NFL in passing yards in 2023. And then his brain gets totally scrambled. And last year

2024, he leads the NFL in completion percentage. But in there, his brain gets totally scrambled. So

what do you do with that? Mike says, Mike says, I love a guy when he's healthy. Don't love a guy

when he's not healthy. The tool was playing and all indications are from watching what happened

to him, a short circuit. That wasn't a healthy quarterback trying to play last year, throwing

bubble screens and everything behind the line of scrimmage. And so you're calling him a bust. And

I'm like, how fair is that when you're talking about brain scrambling? I mean, well, okay, is it

only not fair because the injury is brain or would have been any injury? Well, but I don't think you

say bust of like Mike said yesterday when we're talking about the all-time dolphin bus, he said,

Yatiel Green, but that doesn't count because he was injured. He never played. He was gone the whole

time. He never showed you anything. And Mike saying, well, that doesn't count because he's injured.

In this particular case, a guy is out there. And obviously, we don't have the expertise as doctors

with the diagnosis to know enough about concussions. But what we saw indicates, oh, that quarterback's

not in any way physically right from the way that he's playing, but it's not an injury that you

can quantify or that you can see or that keeps him out like an ankle, keeps him out temporarily.

But when he comes back, you don't know what level of fuzzy he is. You don't know how honest he's

being with doctors. You don't know how desperately he wants to get out on the field and his passing tests

with hiding the fact that he is not sleeping well at night or has headaches or whatever.

It's just you don't know what's physically going on in his head, but you're watching the games,

and you know, something's clearly not right because you rarely see a quarterback. Like Mike's

mentioned, RG3 and Carson Wentz, they had physical injuries that we can point to like they physically

broke. This guy was still out there and was mentally broken. I think you can point to adjust the

same. And he's also had the hip injuries and other injuries on top of that. But Kyla Murray,

I mean, Tua's not even the biggest mystery in this free agent class. I think Kyla Murray's the

biggest, you know, mystery because like Tua, we saw him come out the gates. Well, not Tua's

sputtered a little bit. In fact, was pulled by Ryan with Ryan Fitzpatrick, but he he'd led the

league in passing. Kyla Murray felt like a slam dunk. He was an electric football player,

and what what happened there? Call of duty. I think a lot of the commentary from Tua this past year

also bothers me. Like I think a lot of the things that he said, I think a lot of the behavior

thrown the teammates under the bus several times, the stuff even with Tyrie killed the beginning

of the season, show me the money, of course, which was it. And that was before he started to be a

bad quarterback, but even then it was like terribly off-putting. I and and the whispers of stuff you

hear him beside behind the scenes with him and Mike McDaniel, by the way, like to a tongue of

Iloa, but like I don't know where that relationship went wrong, but you would have thought that Tua would

like be be thankful every day of his life for Mike McDaniel, no matter what you think of Mike

McDaniel as a head coach, Tua should be calling up Mike McDaniel every single day and thanking him

for how he helped him in his career. But I think what happened at the end, okay, is a whole bunch of

people who didn't know how to be leaders got swallowed by the things that don't swallow great

leaders like they and when I say they don't know how to be leaders, they'd never been put in the

position where they had to be before and then at the end as everything was as I say the ship

be sinking, everybody was trying to blame everyone else for why it is it was sinking. And so that's

where it broke apart. I'm sure with McDaniel and to a McDaniel said when he got here, you guys

remember a couple of breathless interviews we did with McDaniel and Tua. McDaniel says I've

never seen a more accurate quarterback when he inherits Tua before he's thrown a pass in a

professional game for McDaniel. McDaniel says that and then Tua seemed like a fine leader does when

Chris Cody was next to him fiddling with his strings on his shorts as he was just gazing lovingly

into the eyes of Tua because he was saying all the bold quarterbacking leadership things

that you'd like fine if it was still leading the league in passing. It wouldn't feel show me the

money would feel far, far less offensive to you if it had been something that was still leading the

league in passing. Oh, but I didn't like it when he said it. I mean, and when he signed that

contract, he was still, but most of us certainly myself believed was still a good quarterback like

I thought it was off putting the moment that he said it was strange. And by the way, money changes

dude sometimes like didn't he make some changes in his personal life too, you know, like didn't he

get rid of the trainer, the guy who was with him for years? I don't know, it's possible money changes

you. Yes, we did say partly, no, nobody noticed. We're gonna be okay. I think that I deserve to

do. Might or probably too many sport came out of your mouth. Wow. He did say partly. He was on a

point, though, so I didn't want to say anything. Yeah, coming. Wow. Did you hear it? Did you hear

partly? No, I didn't. I was too involved in trying to make my point. Sometimes when I try and

make my point, I'm really focused on the thing that I'm trying to to get at. And I don't really

pay attention to other people. Anyone else experienced that sometimes? Yeah, you just wait and you

just think like, oh man, it's my turn to talk. Right. I'm waiting for my turn, you know, and that's

good because I feel a little bit attacked. Talk, talk, talk, talk. But in your head, there's nothing

else happening. So I'm waiting, yeah, I'm waiting for my turn to get in. You know what I'm saying?

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How jacked up is this substation to see Mike Evans rolling around?

Just fresh meat for the electrical substation in San Francisco.

You like that move? They're moving it though. They better. They better. I mean, Mike Evans has

been struggling with it. Injury. So where does he go? Let me go to San Francisco. Their physios

seem to know what they're doing. Can I be honest with you? Obviously, Mike Evans is a huge name,

all right? And there are some other big names that moved around yesterday. Kenneth Walker,

the third for sure. But like, am I the only one that's supposed to pretend that I know who all

of these names are and the guys who were getting paid yesterday? Like, there's a lot of guys who

are getting a lot of minds like, I don't really know what that is. Yeah, there's a bidding war for

a guard right now. This one's really stretching the knowledge. But there are some big and

packed full names there. But we're going to put you to the test later on in the show. Oh,

yeah, yeah. Maybe we'll run some of these moves by you. Oh, yeah, that sounds a little bit like

maybe big move and not a big move. Exactly right. Okay, that's what I'm talking about there.

All right. I was surprised though with the Malik Willis movie yesterday from the Dolphins because

I felt that this is a team like, I don't love the idea of paying a quarterback when your team

is going to be bad. Like Dolphins, you're still going to be bad, okay? And I don't love the idea of

paying a quarterback when your team is bad. I mean, I just said yesterday, I believe the only two

ways that you could win with your quarterback is either being a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback

or he has to be on a good value. And the dolphins have a guy who's like kind of in the middle now

and not a good team around them. My concern is what I've been hearing and not to make it about

a certain other franchise, but what I've been hearing around here for weeks is like you don't

want to be in the middle. And that's what the dolphins have been for about 30 years. And the thing

you could look at with Willis is like, hi upside, right? Even though he's a few years into the league,

you can you can convince yourself on a project. This isn't signing maybe Kyler Murray or another kind

of middleing quarterback where you're going to win games and there's no hope. If you win a bunch of

games with Malik Willis, cool, but I would have thought this is like the perfect time for one year

to tank, right? Isn't that what everyone is saying is what a good franchise would do? But the

quarterback class isn't assumed to be a really good one any year from now. Well, yeah, next year,

I guess it's a little bit better. It's supposed to be really good, but I'm talking. Yeah, okay,

I get you. I think that maybe this is a good year to try to take your shot with a high-ceiling

quarterback. That's why I'm good with it is the high-ceiling part of it, I guess. Yeah, I mean,

this guy was, I mean, those are pretty impressive stats. I think some of that is funny. If you watch

these games, he doesn't exactly blow you away. He's not winning these games and often like he's

efficient, but he's also not being trusted, which scares you. But I think they did about as well,

especially when you consider. You have to be good with it because of what you're saying there,

Mike. Yeah, this is the best of the options. It's either him or Kyler Murray and Kyler Murray is

older. And they're in cap hell. The immediate decisiveness from a front office that you want to

believe in. And I think they right off the bat gave you a reason to be optimistic about them.

To be honest, I think you probably could have gotten Kyler Murray at a cheaper number, right? Because

he's already washed goods and it's just like, yeah, we're eating money and there's offset language.

So Kyler Murray is going to sign for the minimum somewhere I was doing. That's what I'm saying. You

would have gotten him for less money and you could have had an escape hatch of like,

all right, this isn't working. We can go figure something out next year. The problem is when you

bring in a Malik Willis to kind of be a piece that surrounds your team and gets you to the next level,

like you need the pieces that are surrounding the quarterback. Like the dolphins don't have that.

They don't have the offensive line. The defense is in shambles. Like they don't have anything. So how do

you, how do you look at this guy and scout him perfectly to be like, all right, he's the quarterback

of the future when we don't know what we have around the problem would have been though. If they

sign Kyler Murray and you win enough games to be out of the archmaning race, you'd be infuriated.

At least theoretically with Malik Willis, if you do that, it's because you're getting flashes of

a high ceiling quarterback. But I will say like, if you go six and 10, because Malik Willis is just

okay and you've committed this money to this guy and you play yourself out of the ability to get

that top tier quarterback in the draft next year, it feels like a strange decision to me.

They should play that 17th game though. That was a good joke to

interact with the middle that Jeremy speaks of there. I don't think the dolphins have been

in the middle. The heat have been in the middle. The dolphins have not been in the middle.

It's not just not winning a playoff game. They haven't made the playoffs that often. Like I think

they've been a below average team for 30 years, even as I understand what you're saying that seven

and 10 last year feels like it's in the middle, but they haven't in those 30 years. It's not just

that they haven't won a playoff game. They haven't gotten to the playoffs a whole bunch and then lost.

Like they they rarely get to the playoffs. And I I actually think that when you're saying they've

been in the middle, I think of the Steelers more like that. The middle where Mike Tomlin's always

having a winning season, but they get to the playoffs and they can't get any better because

they're just stuck there. And it's what Jimmy Johnson said. What is it? The enemy of great is good.

I think what Jeremy means is in the middle of the draft, right? The dolphins seem to find their way

being bad in the in the early part of the season and then just being good enough in the middle to

end part of the season to destroy any draft capital that they would have going into the future.

So I think that's what he means is the middle. Like they're always drafting 14 to 16 and getting

the third best guard over the last decade. They average eight wins this season. That's quite

literally the middle. They're just a tick under 500. They draft in the middle of the first round

every single time. And while they don't have enough success to make the postseason, that's difficult.

That's more difficult in the NFL than it would be in the NBA. There are only the the six now seven

teams that make the postseason. They've been averaging eight wins a year. Yeah, for the last 10 years.

And that is what is the result of 15 years before that because it was 15 years before the 10 years

that you're talking about 15 of them. So it's 25 years of not winning a playoff game. But Zaslow

said something about this brain trust. He said that they have info. I don't have on Malik Willis.

Why are we not extending that same grace to the Miami Heat as all of them seem to say

our team isn't what the record indicates. Now the Tyler Heroes back and whenever Norman Powell comes

back, he's probably going to be coming off the bench. I guess because the way the ball is moving

now, this is your core and Norman Powell is here to help that core. I think they need a player that's

better than Tyler Hero and Bam out of bio. But what this team has been with Norman Powell as its

best player isn't what it's been the last few games with Tyler Hero playing that way,

getting Eastern Conference player of the week and Bam out of bio playing the way they've played

over the last 10 games. I think I'm sorry Zas. I think they've been extended plenty of grace

because this is the same stuff that they've said for the last two seasons. So I get maybe this

year they can they can be right. But it ultimately will end with a team that doesn't get out of the

first round. That's what it is for me too. It's it's three straight years. They're saying the same

thing like I'm trying to extend some grace to the new dolphins brass because they have more info

than me. But if Malik Willis for a third consecutive year is not any good, I'm not going to extend

them that grace anymore. The previous two years they had Jimmy Butler. Like the year the first year

you're talking about, they were coming off of the finals. They were coming off of a finals appearance

and then Jimmy got hurt in the play in game. Then the following season he sabotaged the season

and now they have a completely new system with a completely new roster. And that team is

trending in the right direction. A team that's sitting what two games, one game out of fifth place.

Say and you know what? Like I get what you're saying. And obviously I trust the heat implicitly.

But man, like let's let's also include the 23 season where they went to the finals. We're talking

then four straight regular seasons that they're a play in caliber team. And like what history in the

league is there of that? A team that every year is a seven or an eight seed bud. Man, they're

really better than their records. You can hold out hope and say like this year it's going to be

different, but you're chasing like this is fact based. They are a play in team. They have

for an Olympiad. That's who they are. And they've been saying the same thing time and time again.

Maybe they can do the thing that they did a couple of years ago. Get hot and shocked. Bill Simmons says

he's horrified. That's like that's energy. That's Godzilla type energy for Jeremy is Bill Simmons

being nervous about the my God. That's so good. There's about who? It's my favorite day of the

year. My favorite day of the year is the day in the regular season where Bill Simmons is officially

afraid of the Miami heat happens every year. What do you think of and we're going to get to some sound

here in about five minutes that I've never heard come out of a baseball player's mouth about a

teammate. We're going to do this in five minutes. But what did you think of what the NBA decided

with Terry Rosir yesterday? Well, I don't think the NBA decided anything. That's my main problem.

The NBA predictably Adam Silver predictably did nothing. You know why? Because Adam Silver

is what Tony? Nothing. He's on nothing. All right. The Charlotte Hornets decided we're going to give

you a second round pick and let's consider this case closed. Like hold on a second. Why are the

Hornets giving the heat anything? The only reason they would give the heat something is because they

must have done something wrong. If you didn't do anything wrong, why would you give the heat

anything? Hey, hold on. Sometimes you can set on be completely innocent. Okay. This is not a

quarter wall and no one's being sued. The Hornets are just giving the heat a second round pick.

So if something wrong happened, why isn't the NBA stepping in and giving the heat their pickback?

You don't think that they were guiding hand throughout this? I assume three parties. The heat,

the NBA and the Hornets were all collaborating on a solution. That is how Barry Jackson put it

in his tweet. Why does there need to be a solution if there wasn't something wrong that happened?

Did something wrong happen? Because if something wrong happened, the heat should have their

pickback. Guilty. It's murky. There is a victim here. It's really not. There is a victim,

but was there intent? I think all that stuff matters. The intent is don't figure out that he was

throwing games. Yeah, let's try to trade him before everything comes out. The intent is if you're

aware that the FBI is looking into a player, you'll let the heat know. That's the intent. Did they

do that? No. It's a cover-up. It's literally a cover-up. They're covering up what happened.

No, it's nothing is what it is. You have a commissioner here who is on nothing. He's on nothing.

Is it over? Like, is there going into settlement work? It's over. So, it says that it's not the

NBA doing that, but you think the NBA was just totally hands off with this? You think Charlotte

just decided. You know what? I feel bad about this. Many, many months later. I'm going to just

send this second round pick over there. Look, our general manager, brother Teresa, he's just,

he's just, it's, he's feeling guilt and he wants to just send you a second round pick because it

was unfair or what happened to you. You think the NBA didn't have anything to do with it? Why

was it unfair? Well, if it was unfair, he should get the first round picked back. Why was it

unfair? Guilty. It's not we're going to give you a first round pick unless he's been investigated

by the FBI and then you give us back a second. No, no, you look better today.

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