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We did it, Joe.
Dance video.
Influenced NBA basketball narratives.
They bought it.
Oculine and sinker.
You know who else who bought it?
Heat fans.
Oh yeah.
They're dumb.
I got a chair to group chats by some of the biggest heat marks you'd ever find.
But what was really great was getting it in group chats
from people who are not eat fans who were
roasting Dan.
Did they not see Dan break?
I think nobody actually watches video.
That's true.
And they just looked at the polko.
He looked so fat.
Which is why we had that polko.
Yeah, it was an unfortunate angle for him.
Yeah, not good.
He looked really bad.
And so it is.
Quote unquote reporting.
Did by the way,
Barry Jackson also took as fact.
Dan confirms our reporting.
It was incredible to the original point about the heat marks.
P.J.X ran with it.
I just can't believe anybody watched that video
and thought that those were Dan's words.
But it immediately changed the natural narrative too.
Given the reaction to it,
I now think it's possible to trick people into thinking
Kalalware is good.
Kalalno!
It's crazy to think
that not put two hours after Dan said that
and we put it out on social media.
That Brian Winnourst started saying,
while the warriors' package isn't very good,
and hey, that heat package might be better,
then the warriors are actually somewhat feasible.
And now as of this morning,
it seems like he's saying,
while I think he'll stay with the box,
but if not,
it's the heat.
Coward has something better happened today.
It's great coward.
Something better happened.
Or I'm gonna lose my freaking mind.
This is the Dan Levittar Show with this Tougat's podcast.
Zazlow, I'm super frustrated, okay,
because I have not done the things
that I have tried to do over the course of a career
that is painfully long,
to have this portion of my career be me
as an old man chasing people off my lawn
because of the way you guys are bleeping with me.
All right, you know I don't want to do radio row most years,
so you tricked me to doing trade stuff.
This week you want to do trade deadline stuff.
When I've said for years,
the only thing that happens at the trade deadline
is George Hill gets traded.
And now you guys are all excited about Yannis.
And so we're doing extra show today.
A lot of extra show today.
We're gonna do a live stream after the show
around the trade deadline.
And the only reason we're doing it
is so you could see our reaction too.
Did they get Yannis or did they not get Yannis?
But I think we're just gonna be sitting there for two hours
because I think before that
the whole thing's gonna fall apart
because of you seeing Windhors is reporting.
He's now gone from 5149 to 6040.
He's not gonna be traded.
Wow.
He's moved the number.
9% move the last 24 hours.
Windy is on get up every day.
They're working him to death.
Put it on the Polite Levitage Show.
Is he has been trying to kill Windy?
Why do you always pull George Hill?
I mean, Jimmy Butler was traded at the deadline last year.
Like there are so many superstars that move at the deadline.
No, but he's right.
And you keep going back to George Hill.
George Hill was always the piece
of a championship team that needed to make a move.
It is always George Hill now.
It's a fallacy.
Dale makes every trade deadline
about the George Hill acquisition
when that was on an outlier.
I have allowed you guys to take Super Bowl week
and turn it into trade deadline week.
It's on me.
I'm bad at sending boundaries around here.
But as I complained to you guys about
I'm tired of being the old guy
chasing kids out of my yard.
I'm explaining to everybody
I'm playing Wacomoll using a phrase
that an old man would use
that young people don't understand
to describe how it is you guys make me feel
because I can never hit everybody
because something else pops up.
The thing you guys did to me yesterday
making me look that fat
with your AI distortions on my lower body.
The thing that you guys did yesterday to me
while I was in a poorly acted hostage situation
reading words that Jeremy wanted me to read about the heat.
What are you shaking your head?
I don't know what you're talking about.
It couldn't have been that poor
because it did the job.
Like we accomplished what we wanted yesterday.
That's not poor.
Well, you accomplished it.
It's actually frightening how easy it is
to shift the national narrative
and all it took was you caring.
Which honestly pisses me off
about the Miami CFP thing
but we'll leave that for another day.
You look good there.
You guys distorted that
to make me look like that.
I do not look like that.
You guys you guys.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa.
What happened?
All right, so just to explain to everybody
exactly how this got.
No, no, no, you look like fat bastard.
Explain it.
Come on guys.
You can't, you can't keep expanding this.
The audio audience.
Dan keeps getting fatter.
That is what I remember.
That's the one I remember the original.
The man Gino Abbey has competition.
All right.
So just explain to people
what it is that happened with anybody
picking up the nonsense of yesterday.
Now the starting points as low on this is
I'm in another room
and I'm acting very poorly.
I'm acting very poorly under
if I'm doing something under duress
and against my will.
But I want it to be believable enough
that it gets picked up
and I don't believe I executed that.
I don't believe what I gave you guys
with your distortions making me that fat.
I don't believe that what I gave you guys
was usable.
What do you mean it worked?
What do you mean it worked?
What do you mean it got picked up?
It was terrible.
Barry Jackson ran with it as fact.
The media ran with the words
that came out of that picture.
You didn't run.
They ran though.
I'm sorry Chris.
You're laughing.
All right, I'm sorry to do this to the audio audience
but I'm promising you.
If you're not on YouTube right now,
this is worth it to see how it is
that they've used these distortions
to inflate me and make me even more
insecure about my weight than I already am.
And I'm plenty insecure about it the way it stands.
But the way you're back hurts from laughing, Chris.
Your hand is still the same.
Yeah.
Even so is my hand.
My hand is the same size.
The thing the rest of me keeps
in planning and that looks totally realistic
because the point that's infuriating about it
is how realistic that looks.
You think Brendan Fraser in the wheel.
But you got me as fat bastard.
It looks like fat bastard.
You got me.
And the body shaming is out of control.
And you guys don't believe
that we're going to be waiting today
because we're doing a live stream
after the show for two hours.
You don't think we're just going to be sitting around
fooling around.
You think we're going to be announcing
a Yannis trade within the trade
deadline is at three o'clock.
You guys think this is what Wendy is saying
on Get Up This Morning, okay?
Tell you what, if we don't get a Yannis trade three
o'clock, I'm out of here.
Yeah.
I read the Windhorse report.
But I'd hand it cap the chances of Yannis
at like 40%.
Given what happened with Golden State.
That's pretty good.
But something better happened.
If it's not Yannis, it better be John.
This is a legacy day for Pat Riley.
He needs to do something.
Really?
Something needs to be done.
Really, put me on a poll at Labatar Show.
Is this a legacy day for Pat Riley?
I got to think if there's a legacy that secure
it would be that one.
But I just saw Bill Bellichick
not get put in the hall of fame.
So what do I do?
I don't want to make it about us,
but you can't do what Riley did the other night
with Jeremy and I about,
I got Ellisburg going after Wales
and then not yet.
Wait a minute, he's been doing that for years.
I'm just saying, like on the week of the trade deadline,
coming out and being like, I got my guy going after him.
When Pat Riley arrived at the Miami Heat,
he changed the organization by making
a big time superstar acquisition.
He traded Glen Rice and he brought along so morning.
November 3rd, 1995.
And then every single build around the core
was centered around let's acquire a superstar.
And sometimes I got it in the draft,
which was rare because they were never in the lottery,
but it would be, let's go out and get checked.
Let's go out and get LeBron.
Let's build for three years to get LeBron.
And this is, it's not a small amount of years anymore.
It's been five years where that's always been the plan.
Let me get somebody next to Jimmy Butler.
That's better than Jimmy Butler.
It's obvious to everyone.
And he struck out and he struck out and struck out.
Well, not just striking out.
It's that he hit they didn't go all in
because they've been waiting for like someone like this.
And he got passed by other teams in his conference
that were more aggressive.
You got it as striking out and the place
that I would just slow you a little bit on
because they did make two finals appearances.
And one of the strikeouts was Bradley Beale
and one of the strikeouts was Dame Lillard.
And those would have been disasters, okay?
In retrospect, disasters.
Both of them, if you get the build contract,
because when people are excited about the build contract,
like you say striking out and you're not wrong.
One of the big ones is obviously Kevin Durant,
the rockets are formidable at least in part
because they were formidable last year.
Now they've added the kind of guy that you would want to have.
But strikeout, I would say, is a little strong
when you've had a couple of finals appearances in five years.
You got Jimmy Butler when you didn't have the ability
to get much of anything, right?
You got out from Hassan Whiteside and Dion Waders
and ended up with Jimmy Butler when you didn't have anything.
To offer, but since then we've been saying
the player has to be better than Jimmy Butler.
Now what we've seen since is the consensus of,
ah, Bams a number two.
He's forever a number two, useful, not good enough,
not consistent enough, not aggressive enough,
not big enough, whatever it is, Bams not a number one.
You went as far as you could with Jimmy Butler.
Now the idea is, can you put someone next to Bams
better than Jimmy Butler,
because you failed to get anyone for Jimmy Butler.
But here's what Winhorse says on get up this morning.
I've been at 51.49 against the trade,
against Yannis being traded, not against it personally,
but against thinking there will be a trade.
I'm now at 60.40.
Minnesota is still out there, but I'll be honest with you.
I don't think Minnesota offers was as good as Golden States.
And if Golden State's offer wasn't good enough,
I don't think Minnesota is realistic.
That leaves Miami.
Miami is making a player and semi-draft pick offer.
It's a decent offer, but unless there's a secret thing going on,
I'm not feeling Yannis moving right now.
Well, of course, there might be a secret thing going on
because the Miami Heat do not leak any of this stuff
and none of this information ever comes from the Miami Heat.
Just telling you, Dan, nothing happens.
301 PM, peace out.
Okay, but we're going to be here doing a live stream
and preparing for a live stream.
And I believe that there are a lot of fart noises
around the trade deadline and that most years,
we get very excited.
And then because of our expectations,
we end up getting some form of disappointed,
especially here in Miami over the last five years.
I think if you're the audience,
you're rooting for an uneventful NBA trade deadline
for the Miami Heat because they're going to be fireworks
either way.
You want Zaz, mad at 3PMs, I can get them.
They will get skewered rightfully so
if another opportunity to land a Superstar
and I'm even including John Moranth in this discussion,
even though he's having a bad season.
You'd be okay with Moranth's situation.
Yes, do, but why, Mike, why?
Do you have me hope?
Because this is a franchise as I outlined previously
that has always been built around a Superstar.
And that is the only way this franchise gets anywhere really
is putting it on one Superstar's back
and building around him.
We don't have that Superstar right now.
We haven't had one for a while ever since Jimmy broke down.
We need to get back to relevance.
This is a global brand that is always centered
around a Superstar.
The Miami Heat can't just get back
into the Eastern Conference today.
They can get back into the basketball conversation.
This is the most irrelevant this franchise
has been in a long time and they made two finals
in this decade.
Mike, what if I told you that the instant gratification
of John Moran would cost you the summertime
of getting Yannis?
I don't think it does because there's just more assets
that build up.
That's why the argument for Yannis staying in Minnesota
and I can't believe he's let it get to this point.
Yannis needs a put out a statement like yesterday
to force his hand, to force Milwaukee's hand
because it's ridiculous.
But they're just sitting pretty thinking
that they'll get better offers in jail.
Yeah, but you don't know what Yannis is telling Milwaukee
behind the scenes.
Yannis clearly does not want to come out
and be the bad guy and say things in public.
Like, you don't know what you're saying behind the scenes.
Yeah, but that's different than public pressure.
Yeah, but don't you also get the impression
like whether or not he gets mover right now
or in the summer like Milwaukee's going to move on for him
because it really is in Milwaukee's best interest
to move on for him.
What are they gonna do?
They're gonna tell a 31 year old superstar
you can't play for the rest of the season
because that's why they need to do it now.
They have an opportunity and a lottery pick right now.
That's why they need to do it now.
Like you can't have it both ways where you want to tank
the rest of the season because want your pick
to be a high pick in a very loaded draft
but then also not trade Yannis
and he's going to want to play
but then you're going to tell him
we don't want you to play with and trade him.
This is wrong.
What you guys are doing to me on the screen.
I don't, this is unfair.
What's wrong with that?
Unjust it's disinformation in the information age.
I will say like the conversation has constantly been,
okay, there are all these teams that will have more picks
that are unlocked to be able to offer
or there will be more teams with space
that they can offer in the off season.
But if Yannis is on the final year of a deal
and can also have more influence over the box
of where he goes, what's saying you are going to land
a better offer this off season from anybody?
Because what leverage do you really have right now?
You can add Yannis to a franchise that at the very least
gets him through the rest of this season and next year
or one that can extend him soon
as opposed to having to worry about doing it next year.
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Don Lebertard.
Team Aids can't shoot from three.
Now they're gonna see a different Jimmy.
Now he's just just playing.
Nickelback in the locker room and still gots.
They'll play D and show threes as they chase the nets
for the six seed.
These five words in his head
stream my way when in games yet.
This is the Don Lebertard show with his two guts.
When Mike Ryan spells shot and I hear it as YAH,
and he's feeling both things, right?
He's feeling YAH with Pat Riley, YAH with the heat
in Spanish YAH, the Latin temper of YAH.
YAH, YAH, just get me JAH.
And when I see JAH in the discount bin so much
so that they're talking about Sacramento.
Sacramento being like, I can't believe Anthony Davis,
one of the top 75 players ever ends up getting traded
the way that he does yesterday.
And so Dallas really botches that and gets next to nothing
for Luke, the kind of superstar that Mike is demanding
having, the kind of superstar that only got to a finals.
The way that Jimmy Butler did twice in Miami,
only got there once with Luca, AD gets traded yesterday
to another way station like Sacramento.
Wizards, the Wizards in Sacramento only exists
to be a place that just gathers names
because you've got to meet a low maximum ceiling
in the NBA of people you're paying,
even if you're intent on being terrible.
I think the Wizards could be frisky.
Maybe not this year, but they have young pieces.
Like that's a playoff team.
And it feels like they've been rebuilding for this.
No, no, no, next season.
Next season.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't think so with their young pieces
and adding Anthony Davis, like, I know,
I know these guys need to play.
He's got to play.
He's got to play.
But if Anthony Davis and Trey Young are on the court
around that young court, like, they're in the playoff
competition.
There's no, this, I say Atlanta was in the playoff.
Lots of doubt, Mike, Mike, lots of doubt.
There are a couple of team Sacramento as an example, OK?
If people want to say that Sacramento's got anything whatsoever,
I think Sacramento's got three road wins this year.
And Washington is truly terrible.
And you can sing about their young players if you want.
But Anthony Davis, in this condition,
is a piece that has so little value
that it moves for next to nothing and ends up
on the Wizards roster because they
couldn't get much of anything.
Mike, what do you shake in your head?
I think it wasn't nothing.
Like, there were some decent pieces in there.
Yeah, there was some bad contracts.
You make the salary match up.
But OK, we'll revisit next year when they're in the,
when they're battling with a Miami Heat for the play
and if a Miami Heat strike out again.
It's not, they got good young pieces.
I love this take from Mike.
I think it's actually really sharp because,
and I know he doesn't watch basketball like that.
And he's starting to come around now.
Now that it's closer to the playoffs.
But I know he'll keep showing George pretty well.
On top of that, Trey Young, Anthony Davis,
players with question marks, but obviously have upside.
But what Will Dawkins is doing, he just
spent 15 years over in Oklahoma City,
bringing a lot of what they're doing over to Washington.
Like the foundation is set for Washington
to be a good franchise with a lot of little moves
that they've made.
So I really actually like this take.
The reason that I don't like the take
is because I've been watching Washington
the entirety of my life.
And it's always been a nowhere franchise.
And it takes a lot.
Even if you get the guy who was next to the guy
to make it not a nowhere franchise,
and it is especially hard when Anthony Davis
is what you're counting on.
In any circumstances to give you playing time.
In the last calendar year, Anthony Davis
has played 29 games.
Cool.
We'll table this.
It's actually not cool, but a year from now,
I'm going to go off on you guys.
OK.
That's fine.
Set it on the Google calendar.
Yeah, put it on the record.
Put it on the record.
And also I will get my vengeance.
Also put it on the record that at 3 p.m. today,
the heat will trade for George Hill.
And I will leave here mad at you guys
because you put me in another situation
where you start hyperventilating
about all the things that are going to happen
at the trade deadline.
Look, this is a huge day in franchise history.
Yep.
If nothing happens, then even more credence to no.
This is actually part of his legacy
because towards the end, he wasn't
able to recapture that magic.
Now, I'm not going to poo poo, John Moran.
If they do something aggressive and get honest,
that's the pie in the sky scenario, right?
But I don't think it's a bad consolation prize
to get John Moran.
I really don't.
I'm a huge John Moran fan.
I still believe in him.
I know he hasn't been good.
I know it's a weird culture fit.
But I think if not here, where?
I believe in that guy's talent.
Well, I think his ceiling is really high for this franchise.
It's a great consolation prize because we're expecting
they would be able to get him for nothing, right?
That's why it's a good consolation prize, right?
You can't spend on him.
You can't send good players over to get John Moran.
What you would be sending to get John,
if that deal happens is Terry Rosier and Simone Fontecchio,
the question becomes, is there any sort of draft compensation?
Would the heat have to attack or maybe a couple of second-round picks?
That really, I imagine, is the sticking point.
And Doliac, I'll give you Doliac.
I was so mad the other day because they wasted the Fontecchio game.
He had like seven threes or something in a game
and they lost the game anyway because they just threw it away.
Zaz just said something here.
I think it happens.
And I'm beginning to feel like Zaz's words don't mean anything
because Mike, the other day he texted us,
Minnesota made a tiny trade and he said,
it's over, Minnesota's getting it.
I'm very reactive.
No, but this is the thing.
And you're also very hopeful and you've got as much
Homer in you as anyone who's ever been around here.
Like you are a fan at your core, you get emotional,
you swing wildly on these things.
And so at 301, you have to understand,
the reason we're doing this trade deadline show is only
so you can see our reaction either way.
At three o'clock are they crushed
because another season got away
because this is the thing that's happening, right?
I find this part fascinating.
Trayon, Anthony Davis, Yanis,
pieces that have body issues and a league
that has more body issues than it's ever had.
You're counting on injured things.
We just talked about Damien Lillard,
swung and missed, everybody got mad.
Now you're happy they swung and missed.
Bradley Beale, some people wanted him, some didn't,
but injuries all over this league are a problem.
You can't count on Anthony Davis
and I wouldn't blame anybody if they said
you can't count on Yanis either
because the way the sport is happening,
it's testing tendons and tissues in the way
that's not normal, the way that they're just spreading
the court and making these guys go out for miles
and the way he specifically plays is really physical.
So you're, I know it feels like you're immediately saying
if I add Yanis to bam, I can win the East,
but it ignores a couple of things.
One thing it ignores is Detroit's really good.
Not a little bit good, they're really good.
They did the hardship thing last year.
They barely lost the next, they will not lose to the next.
Again, Detroit is really good.
The other thing that's happening,
and this is where he fans deserve to be most frustrated.
The other thing that happened is the Celtics are really good
and they're really good without Tatum.
They just went into Houston and dragged Houston
because the Celtics are playing unbelievably well
and at the trade deadline before making the seismic move,
they did all the money stuff you need to do
to fix the salary cap stuff.
It hurt, they didn't want to get rid of Simmons,
Anthony Simon's, excuse me, they didn't want a good player
in the trade zone.
They did, they got a good offensive player for another.
They got a good offensive player,
they got a bad defensive player, but they improved.
The Celtics have gotten better.
Yeah, everybody's gotten better on their watch.
Yeah, I know the Lillard thing, maybe I have a take
on the Lillard thing.
There was a lot of stuff going on in Damien Lillard's personal life
and he went to a city he didn't really want to go to
and he showed up at his shape
because of everything that was going on.
I do think it might have worked out different down here,
but let's play the result out there.
The fact remains that whether they've gotten lucky,
vice, swing in and missing,
or they've really missed out on other teams have improved.
And we're not just talking about the big superstar trades,
we're talking about keeping our powder dry
and not chasing Pascal Ciacum,
who would make a difference.
Ojiyananobi, who would make a difference
because we kept doing what we always done under Pat Riley,
which is let's go whale hunting.
The time is now.
Yannis is not a player that's going to be good at 36.37
and he needs to realize that too.
As he's looking down a summer vacation in Greece,
you're 31 years old without a jumper
and what you bring to the table is unbelievable physical gifts.
You need to capitalize on that window right, right now.
When he talks about the right now of this, okay,
because it's super interesting to me
what's going on at Golden State,
because they need to get Steph the piece right now,
even though I think it's fairly obvious to everybody,
everyone in the league is miles behind O.K.C.
Even if O.K.C struggles, San Antonio may feel differently,
but everyone else in the league feels miles behind O.K.C.,
Detroit included.
And so you find yourself in a position
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Yes, VM.
You know, oh yeah, they are dead.
They cannot go to make it, you know.
Even if they win, if they lose it in Miami.
I need to calm you down.
I need to calm you down.
They lose it in Miami.
They don't got a chance in Boston.
Oh, they are going to have their ass, you know what?
They're in Boston, you know.
Stugats.
They were wrong.
Are they going to lose their job?
No.
Are they going to get a cutting plate?
No, what are they going to do?
Keep predicting.
What is the obvious?
They are going to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win.
Oh, Denver, the altitude.
And you know what?
The heat are going to win at all.
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With the Stugats.
The thing, though, that I find myself wondering about,
as you guys watch all of this play out,
is it presumes an awful lot to presume
that Yannis will be healthy and give you the hope
that you can then get past Detroit.
But the best hope, the best hope that the Miami Heat have
is that Pat Riley, I'm not killing him,
but toward the end of his life and the end of his career,
what has to be the close to the end of a man who still
doesn't talk to Michael Jordan and Larry
Bird when he's in a room with them
because of what the scars of competing did to him.
He doesn't want to leave the game,
but he's got a very small window.
And when you talk about Yannis and the injuries,
Yannis too can't give away another half season.
Like he doesn't want to sit there healthy
for the rest of this season playing with Kyle Kuzma
and Miles Turner and a bunch of Milwaukee players
who are miles away from Drew Holiday
and what Chris Middleton and Brooke Lopez did for it.
Get off your ass and send a tweet right now.
Like the window is shrinking on this guy.
Why is there no urgency?
Because he doesn't want to make the public mess, Mike.
What?
You don't want the public mess more than another title?
What do we do is get 31?
I'm telling you that he does not want this,
this he's made clear.
Has he not made this clear?
He does not want another title more
than he wants a good relationship with Milwaukee.
He's made it clear.
How much more clear do you want him to make it?
He's made it obvious that he preferred to try and keep
the relationship with Milwaukee
then do what he has to do to try and get out
so he can get closer to a championship
the second half of this season.
Do you know who gets what he wants?
James Hardin.
James Hardin gets what he wants.
He's had seven trades in his life.
Why?
Because he says, hey, I want to move.
Hey, I want to do this.
Hey, I want to do that.
And he gets whatever he wants.
Why, but you guys killed him the last couple of days
and everybody killed him.
Because he's not my guy.
And he's done it seven times.
Like, we give you one, we give you one.
Kevin Rand also gets his way, right?
And he doesn't differently.
But he's ruined the way the optic physics career should look
because he's gotten what he quote unquote wants.
He did this the thing.
This is, I mean, man, my brother talked about this a lot.
The genie's curse.
May you get everything in life you wish for.
Kevin Durant has gotten the things that he wants.
But he doesn't act like it because it hasn't felt
like he's getting the things that he wants
because it's never met with applause.
Like, whatever Kevin Durant's been doing the last,
I thought we had a great take like four teams ago
when he's like, the choices Kevin Durant has made
are the worst possible ones he could have made
for whatever the optics of his career would have been.
If we run it back and allow him to make all the choices again,
he would have been regarded forever with applause
in a way he's not.
You cannot tell me, Mike, that it does not sting human beings
no matter how immortal you think they are.
And especially the ones that are online
as much as these guys are, that it doesn't sting
these human beings who kind of got into the life
with the idea of well, I'm gonna be in stadiums
and everyone's going to cheer me
and the only people are booing
are because they hate me because I'm too good, right?
To do things that they think are gonna merit applause
and then they're villains or they're bad
and then Kevin Durant's getting mad at the media
for misrepresenting him or what they're human beings
inside of this.
The reason Shaq's mad at me and wants to kill me
is because I simply said he's awfully sensitive
under the circumstances given that he's Shaq,
that's why he's mad at me, he doesn't have another reason.
He's reacted to me saying he's too sensitive
by being too sensitive and holding the grudge for years
where he wants to kill me and he's Shaq.
And she's Shaq, you think Kevin Durant and Janis
and James Harden might not be a little weaker?
Like wherever it is, the confidence resides here
where you'll expect all the applause.
Actually, no, I don't think they're weaker.
I think Kevin Durant is actually pretty strong mentally.
Yeah, there are things that leak out on social media,
but I never question his care for the game ever.
No, no, I just mean weaker when it comes to applause,
the need for validation.
Like we all need it and I think people think superstars
don't need it and what I'm telling you is
they're the most popular guys in high school
but they need it too and when you take it away,
when you take away something is simple as popularity
and make them slightly unpopular.
How did LeBron deal that with that at the beginning
when he didn't think that's how that was gonna go for him here?
He got used to it over time.
Durant has gotten used to it over time.
Janis has never experienced any of that.
And there are times that it works out.
Like the end of Rashid Wallace's tenure in Portland was bad.
He ends up getting moved to Atlanta
and then moved to Detroit
and now he's remembered forever more as a piston champion.
Rashid Wallace is the example you're giving me
on caring about what people think.
I'm saying about like the superstars
that make it ugly near the deadline.
Like Goran Dragoch got hurt in an NBA finals
even he made it ugly to get to Miami
and it's a footnote on his career.
In fact, we're probably the only ones
that even remember it.
There are times that these big bets
for just a little minor headache
where everyone's mad at you for maybe a week or so.
Like it pays off.
Yeah, I mean, Janis is also in a good spot
with the Milwaukee fan base.
Like I think of this point.
If he said like I'd rather do this now
than the summer, please send me
to Minnesota or Miami their fan base.
Like you can see the reaction online.
They're not mad about this at this point.
They understand there's nothing built around him.
They're ready to reset.
He's been nothing but wonderful to the city.
And if this is a legacy play,
when's the next time Janis is going to be in Milwaukee?
Once he's retired.
He's never going to go back.
They're going to put a statue outside for two seconds.
Okay, great.
I'll see you guys later.
He doesn't even live there now.
You guys don't like I know you're saying that
Janis should make more of a mess
to really force Milwaukee's hand.
You don't see Golden State bowing out last night
as more evidence that this thing is going to happen.
It's going to happen.
And Golden State has essentially been told
we're not taking your offer.
You can move on here.
Like Milwaukee's going to do this to him.
Can't you interpret it as if it's not going to happen
in this deadline?
But then why aren't the other teams also bowing out?
Like Miami, like Minnesota.
Like for me, that last night meant
that Golden State was told.
You're saying that is coming to being traded.
Yes, yes.
Very similar to New York,
how remember James Dolan a few days ago came out.
It's like I like our team.
We're a championship team.
We're not going to make any moves.
No, New York was told, yeah, we're not taking your offer.
And last night, Golden State was also told
we're not taking your offer.
And that's why Camingo was sent to Atlanta
for a Purgingus with, I mean, Purgingus.
Can we have a talk conversation about Purgingus?
Like seven games this year.
My God.
What's up with him?
I mean, you sit Camingo for the entire season
and for what?
That's what you get.
You get Purgingus and his mystery illness.
I hope he's okay.
Are you pronouncing that differently?
And that sounded totally insincere.
I hope he's okay.
Can you please, I say it poor Zingus.
I don't say it poor Zingus.
I say it the right way.
Okay, I, I, I, what do you know?
I actually believe that he's saying it correctly
and I'm saying it wrong.
I put it, put it on the pole, please,
Juju, Purgingus or Purgingus, Tony,
when we say mystery illness and we skip pass it,
can you please just look, read for me.
Just please go look up for me.
The details of the mystery illness,
when Zazlow says quite insincerely,
I care so much about him being well,
but he doesn't actually care
because I remember when this last main
and appearance for me was Lual Dang
had some trouble with, he was leaking spinal fluid.
It seemed really horrible
and he was still trying to play
and people were like, ah, I hope he's okay.
And I think they weren't really sort of examining
what might be happening there.
I don't actually know.
It's clear you don't actually know what the internet says
about it.
You do not want to send Tony on an internet
while it's good to say about what, no, don't do it.
I know it.
Yeah, there's, there's, there's internet theories about it
and we, we'll leave it at that.
You're very clearly not clear.
I don't, I do not know what any of the internet theories are.
I just am saying whenever it is,
I hear the phrase mystery illness
spoken by someone who doesn't have a mystery illness.
They're generally underestimating
whatever it is is happening
over where the mystery illness is.
And so while you can rip porgyngas,
the Golden State Warriors did send Kaminga to Atlanta
and it does appear that our trade deadline show
is just going to be, well,
is it going to be Miami for Janus
or is it just gonna be fart noise?
Janus stays in Milwaukee for the second half
of the season where they have 18 wins.
And he's not going to play a relevant game
the rest of this season.
Not one relevant game will Janus play for him,
his career, his legacy, the rest of the season.
He will be, he will be running around
with no discernible purpose
for the next half of a season
because they've got no chance to do anything other than lose.
So he'd be legitimately wasting his time.
If Milwaukee hasn't made a decision,
why would Golden State just bow out last night?
They bowed out.
There's a reason why they bowed out.
Yeah, there has to be.
Well, but wait a minute.
I'm assuming he says, he says,
he says, why did they bow out last night
because they traded Kaminga
and he's not allowing for the idea
that Milwaukee is like, we don't want Kaminga.
Like whatever your offer is,
it's not with Kaminga, we don't want Kaminga.
But that ties to what he's saying.
Like if they don't want Kaminga,
that's where it's going to be.
But they still, they still have the draft picks
and there are three way trades that you can make.
All these teams are looking for another partner,
anyone who's really interested in making a move today
is looking for other partners.
Then everyone's like, they don't want Kaminga.
No, but exactly.
Well, Tom Levy told you that.
Tom Levy told you nobody wants Kaminga.
Right.
But you're exactly right what you're saying.
So if that's the case, because yes,
there are other moves that you made.
I'm going to bring in this team.
I'm going to get this pick, this extra pick.
Why would Golden State knowing that?
What you're saying is right.
Why would Golden State bow out?
Again, you've making it bowed out
when I don't know who wants Dremon.
I don't know what Dremon brings you back.
I don't know what Milwaukee has told Golden State
that they want.
I don't know.
I know Golden State is seen as Kaminga is the best offer,
but I would also assume that we never actually
know what all the facts are, because we're very often
surprised by what happens with these three and four
and five and 16 trades.
Golden State just didn't have the Trump card
that anybody wanted, which was a blue chip prospect.
Kaminga's not seen as that across the league.
So when you have, hey, we've got Kaminga and we've got Buddy
Heal, then we've got Dremon Green, who's 37 years old.
What do you think, Milwaukee?
I'm gonna be like, no, you can have,
you can give us 8,000 picks.
It doesn't matter, because what we want, you do not have.
Buddy Heal does owed $10 million each of the next two years
by moving him and Kaminga and bringing back poor Zingas,
who's expiring as a contract.
It gives them a little more flexibility in the off season.
With then Dremon does an expiring contract next year,
I believe.
So what that does is it says, okay,
we're not gonna get Yannis now.
Milwaukee has told us we cannot get Yannis right now.
We would rather have either Miami's offer,
which they're gonna try to increase
or see what Minnesota can do,
but you're not gonna be able to do this golden state.
Maybe if we get to the off season, we can revisit it,
which is why you get a player in poor Zingas
who has no further money going through.
That's for an instead of maybe like Anthony Davis, right?
That's why you go for poor Zingas in particular.
Roy, they did it to me again.
We have run out of time.
It's been all trade deadline.
I cannot talk about the two time defending champions,
winning last night in a win that Mike Ryan is claiming
is a loss.
It is.
Oh, you're wrong.
No, you got to win that in regulation.
You got two points is the most important thing.
But you gave up a point, the Boston.
All right, so the party games left.
Two points is what they needed.
They got two points.
They net it one.
Boston's not the only team they're chasing.
Yeah, they're chasing Buffalo as well.
Yeah, so get two points.
They're chasing everybody.
All right, get two points.
We don't have time to talk about it.
The two time defending champions,
I'm playing Wachamo with these guys and the heat in about,
I don't know, six hours is going to trade for Georgia.
I think it's pronounced guacamole with these guys and the heat in about, I don't know, six hours is going to trade for Georgia.
I think it's pronounced guacamole with these guys and the heat in about, I don't know, six hours is going to trade for Georgia.
I think it's pronounced guacamole with these guys and the heat in about, I don't know, six hours is going to trade for Georgia.
I think it's pronounced guacamole with these guys and the heat in about, I don't know, six hours is going to trade for Georgia.
I think it's pronounced guacamole with these guys and the heat in about, I don't know, six hours is going to trade for Georgia.
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