MANDELSON ARRESTED: The Empire Falls (Ivor Cummins)

The British political establishment is still reeling from the exposure of Mandelsons links to

Epstein. That's what we're going to talk about in this video. Like, comment and subscribe,

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At least, that's what we're going to start off with and then we're going to go,

who knows where we're going to go either? Thank you so much for making yourself available.

No problem, Red. Great stuff. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So Peter Mandelson, the dark prince,

the other nickname, before he became US ambassador under Starmer. So tell us, where do you think it's

going to go? What's happening with Peter Mandelson? Oh, I'm sure he'd be looked after like they

always are. There'll be kind of a fake arrest and a fake suspended sentence, perhaps.

And then, you know, like the Mafia, do you remember that film, Goodfellas?

And the Mafia don'ts have to actually go into prison. But when they're in prison, they're

getting all the Italian food delivered and they have staff serving them in the prison.

You know, they have special areas, something like that.

Well, you know, do you remember Lord Archer? Lord Jeffrey Archer, he all went to prison.

He was actually, I think he's found guilty of perjury and he went to prison and he was a member

of the House of Laws and an extraordinary MP or who's an extraordinary MP. So he actually did get

convicted. However, this is a very different political climate nowadays. Yeah, I mean,

look, we see it again and again and again. You know, they kind of, some people think the Epstein

file release is just to keep the people happy, the cattle. In other words, throw them some

sacrificial lambs, let them vent, let them feel that they're vindicated, but the real figures behind

the curtain, the Rothschilds, the Wallenburgs, you know, the real families. And if you take one

of the biggest stories, actually, I just have a tweet I can send it on after and you can attach it

two million views just in the last day. And the person makes a very good point. It says,

the real story of the Epstein files is Rothschild because we've all been told, oh,

Rothschild and banking families running the world, that's a conspiracy theory. But Rothschild comes

up all the way through, Epstein worked for Rothschild, Mandelsson and all the rest of them are part

of that network. But Rothschilds at the top, and he's mentioned 12,000 times in these files.

So the real story is, hey, everyone, the banking elite are running the world. And they used Epstein

as an agent. And it's all linked him with the intelligence services like CIA and Mossad. And hey,

we were all right. It was true all along. So whenever about the individuals who were exposed

and embarrassed, the real story is, hey, we were right. It is the network. It's Rothschilds,

Wallenbergs, Warbirds, you know, Wall Street in the city of London. They're doing all the moving

and shaking. You know, they bring in the Clintons, they bring in Obama. They're running the world.

And they give us a fake democracy where all the politicians that we get to vote for are chosen.

I mean, it's not in a way, Rich. That's the big story. Yes. Yes. And I think either once again,

you get proven right as a viable conspiracy prophet because you've been spouting conspiracy

prophecies for years. I listened to your prophecies during lockdown about that novel medical

intervention and the other procedures that were being recommended for our own good.

Well, actually, I give you an example, Rich, from way back in the day. I've just come back from

Bulgaria with the Maverick organization and great trip because there's great things happening

in Bulgaria. They're overturning the mafia and a lot of the politicians, but it's a long story.

But one thing came up in conversation and someone was asking me, well, how early did you know that

the Kovi flu was nonsense? And I said, well, I'm not being smart, but I knew in February because

I saw the diamond princess data and I told my wife, this is all nonsense. Okay. And they asked,

well, how, how quickly did you know it was a totally orchestrated scam that was much bigger than

swine flu scam? And I said, well, actually, that's interesting. I think it was around May, an IT

professional sent me very interesting stuff. And I was hoping, Rich, it was just a swine flu.

It was just for a big farm, a vaccine, and just to make a load of money, yadda yadda. And I was

trying not to believe it was much worse than that. But of course, it was. But one guy sent me

something in May. He said, I ever look at this. This is bigger than you think. And it was a search

for common pass. So common pass was set up by Bill Gates, Microsoft and Rockefeller Foundation.

And it was for a worldwide universal vaccine pass. Okay. Yeah. But you know what the killer was.

And I remember thinking, oh, no, this is huge, bigger than I feared. He sent me the search results

for common pass. And in mid 2019, when it was created, right, just before COVID, there was a big

spike in searches at East Coast USA, kind of New York and Switzerland and Geneva. And that was

mid 2019. And then the searches dropped away until January, February, 2020. And then they shot

up again in advance of the COVID nonsense. So I just looked at that and said, oh, oh, this is not

just mostly orchestrated or being exploited. This is utterly planned. And I only found out a little

after that a bit of end 201, which was November 2019. So just a little example of what's called

conspiracy theory is simply basic common sense detective work means method and motive. Yes,

that's all it is. So people listening, I've avoided rich. They try to drag me into chemtrails.

They try to drag me into no virus. And I'm not going there. I am only going where I know

that I've documented proof, right? Sure. Sure. And I get it. I mean, some of that stuff who knows,

who know? I'm not going to get into chemtrails with you, right? I'm not sure. Well, I don't know.

I'm not going to get into that now. We're not going to get into it. Okay, to behave yourself.

Okay, censored, right? There's free speech platform censored. Only because I don't want to divert

too much, right? I want to go back to what you said originally about Epstein and then also about

Mandelson, which is what you did with the examples that you gave is looking for I think looking for

inconsistencies, looking for date lots and lots of data points. And I think what people do all too

often, all too often is they just look here and they don't look what might be hidden from your

view to dig in through here and over here and over here and what's this? And let me check this out.

Oh, this is no good, but this is something, right? They don't necessarily do that. They just do that.

And so I knew, as you possibly did know, when Mandelson was appointed US ambassador,

that he had associations with Epstein, because the stuff was floating around on the independent

media and special branch in MI5 would have told Starmer and that came to light that he knew and

he still appointed him, which points to I think what you were saying earlier about who's really

running the show? The Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and these elite families that own everything,

that own the city of London, whoever they might be. And I've heard of the committee of 300 or

something. I don't know much about it, right? But really, I think it was one of the Rothschilds

that said, what do I care about elections, you know, if I control the creation of money?

Yeah, I think that was Nathan Rothschild. He says, if I control the credit of a nation,

I care not who makes its laws. Yeah, it's irrelevant. All that matters is money, sadly. I guess

that's why in the Bible, money is the root of all evil, not money just itself, but the

lust for money and the lust for power and control that comes with money. That's what creates

the great evil, I think, in our world. And these families are worth trillions of dollars.

And of course, they've got their hands on the wheel of the printer that prints the money.

And of course, what they do is they use their money to own the politicians and the system.

Because I mean, that's the best thing you can do at money if you want to power over the world,

use the money to buy up all the politicians and the media. Yeah. And then to roll out whatever

particular agenda, like for you either, if you, if it's the, see, I forget, not the contango,

it's, I forget the name, but there's a particular phrase, right, where you're near the

speaker, the source of the currency. So if you were near the source of the currency,

then why not print some off, bribe and buy people and blackmail people to roll out your agenda,

where we all go high fat low carb? Because I know that's really important to you,

because I learned a lot about that from you, right? And we're eating, everybody's eating saturated

fats instead of having seed oils, because that's what you would impose upon us, right? For our own

good, of course, either, right? Why not? Why not do that? Yeah. But now, the other thing that

that's happened with Manderson, I saw something today on X that a lot of his, his lobbying firm has

gone bankrupt, and they've lost a lot of the Manderson's emails. Oh, they've just, they've just

gone missing. And then also that he was renting a property from one of the Roth trials.

Oh. So, and I actually think, and it'd be interesting what you say about it, I think that,

that the, the precedent has been set, like this, hold has been broken, that's holding the wall

has been broken about the shroud of secrecy and the nefarious activities that's been going on.

And I think that holds just going to get wider and wider and wider and more and more stuff is going

to come out. And some of the stuff that's going to come out is going to be horrific. And it's going

to undermine the regard that people, any regard that people may have for those that laudate over us.

And it's going to undermine their positions of power. If you think of the people that have been

hit by this in Norway, the CEO of W E F, what a shame.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. And anyone who gets up the top, including Manderson, the people who

move up to the top, it's with the permission and the help of kind of the network. I mean,

back to tragedy and hope.info where you can read the book. And basically, the network just

pushes back against any family men or women and people with principles. And they find obstacles

in their way as they try and rise up politics in political world. And then the nasty people

and often it could be heavily dominated by people with no families, no children. You'll notice

that in a lot of the leaders, you know, whatever bit the whole gaiting, the trans thing,

but definitely not family people with principles. So those people who will do whatever you want

and have no empathy, they're the ones who help up the pipeline. And you supply funding

and your NGOs to support them. And you just get the kind of sociopathic class up to the top.

And then you let them into the club. So they might not be very high up in the structure,

but they know that they're in with the big guys. And they're delighted. And you keep them happy

and you give them some largesse. And you make them feel special that they're insiders. And that's

how you're on a club. Like George Garland said, it's a big club and we're not in it. But now we know

from tragedy and hope with much more clarity, who's actually in the club and a hot level. And

yeah, the big banking families and the city of London Wall Street kind of key people

there up at the top. And they all meet and greet at Bilderberg and W.E.F. And that's their kind of

public club. And then you have trilateral commission and council foreign relations created by

Rockefeller Rockefeller Effectively created the UN and then began the EU. So they've got all these

front facing publicly known about clubs, but quietly they're running them and running the

agendas. You know, it's a great system and it's worked very well for them except perhaps, as you

said, hole in the wall. Finally, the cattle are beginning, but just beginning to realize the

conspiracy scientists or the conspiracy analysts where conspiracy profits, profits indeed,

proven to be. Yeah. Okay. Now, I just want to go back to tragedy and hope. And I think I might

have shared this with you. Do I have it? I have the book. It's right at the bottom of a part.

It's a big, big book. Let me see if I can dig this out. And I have a confession. I haven't even

started reading it. Well, actually, I did start reading it. It's not very digestible,

very fine print, far too heavy for me to carry around on my bicycle and read. It's really

but why do you bang on about it? And by the way, I got it because John Taylor Gatto, one of my

philosophical heroes, passionate, I don't know if you know about him, but he was a really successful

New York teacher, a passionate advocate for home education and alternative

styles of education. So what is it about tragedy? You know, why do you bang on about it? Iva?

Yeah, I do bang on about it. And someone complained, I think it was the other day, said Iva,

stopped pushing tragedy and hope on the cattle because it kind of finishes at 1966, which is true.

But tragedy and hope 101 written by Joe Plummer pulls all of that huge

tone that you showed, the important bits, and also the Carl Quigley's posthumous release,

the Anglo-American establishment, which is even bigger and names a lot of the families and the

Rothschilds. And Joe Plummer, a tragedy and hope.info, his book, 101, pulls them both together and

brings it forward up to the 90s. And he goes through Operation Gladio and a lot of other material.

So tragedy and hope 101 is the one I'm pushing because it gives a much broader picture,

but the beauty is it's all taken from Quigley's absolutely referenced and unimpeachable historical

analysis. So no one can in the slightest say tragedy and hope 101 has any conspiracy theory.

It gives you what's really happening and it's fully referenced. So I love it. It stays away

from all the fruitier stuff. It doesn't get into coffee, flu or chemtrails or anything that can

be discredited. It gives you a geopolitical historical reality of how the world is wrong.

And if any normy or NPC reads this book, let's just say they're going to never ever just take

at first face value, what's in our media? Because they'll now understand the media has been

strategically purchased and they'll realize you've got to be a detective on anything here.

You have to dig deeper, you know, without bias and with the understanding of tragedy and hope

and the understanding of how the world works, you're completely armed to work out what's really

going on in any situation, viruses, financial collapse, you'll know. So that's why I think it's

so important. Normies can read it easily. It's only a four or five hour read and come away

being awake, just awake. Okay. That's a no if I think. All right. Oh, tragedy in hope 101.com.

No, no. Tragedy and hope. All one word dot info. I NF. Okay. Tragedy in hope dot info.

And you get the book there, the audio books and he's got a bunch of other free books and audio

books and psychology, mental strength on the whole money system and the creation of money

and why that's a disaster. So I mean, it's an amazing resource. Okay. And what did you get from

tragedy and tragedy in hope yourself? Oh, it filled in a bunch of kind of loose blanks. So I was

familiar with quite a bit of it. But when I read it, it was so easy to read and so clear, coherent.

You spent many years writing this book and making sure it's the best synopsis he could do so that

normal people could actually grasp clearly how the world works. And that hit me. I knew a lot of it

already. But there was a lot of extra pieces and it filled in a lot of blanks and I realized

this is the one book. There's loads of books and documentaries. This is the one that people need.

And after reading this, they can go out, we'll open eyes and begin to dig and and see all the other

things in reality. You know, they can go off and maybe maybe look at Europe at the last battle

or they can go off and find other documentaries. But they'll know how the world works. They'll know

that you're never going to get anything of substance in any legacy or mainstream media ever.

And they'll know you got to dig deep deep. Oh, that is so true. Because even with me being a

conspiracy fellow can far write white supremacists conspiracy profit like yourself, right?

Yeah. It's just like there's so much that we've been lied to. So much that we've been lied to.

And it's what it actually need to in mainstream media, you can assume it's nonsense or lies or

just misdirection. And occasionally in mainstream media, something is correct. But definitely that's

the balance. It's going to be the exception where something is well framed, accurate and correct.

That'll be the exception. It happens, but it's the exception. And once you know that, you know,

you need to dig elsewhere. And the best thing people can do, and it takes a little while,

is find shows like yours or Michael Yarns or Alex Craners, you know, just find the people

that what they're saying largely lines up with the worldview of tragedy and hope. And then you'll

find the best people and they'll they'll be covering what's really happening in the world.

Yeah. Well, one of the things that I use, so with Alex Craners and Tom Luongo and many others,

is I track how their prognostications work out. That's it turns out more often than not,

they tend to be accurate. And also that they explain things that the mainstream media doesn't

or can't or won't. And like, for example, you're like this one, Iver, in the Sun newspaper,

one of the best-selling tabloid papers in Britain, I just saw the heading that this,

that it's Putin who's weaponized open borders in order to undermine Europe. It's Putin who's doing

it. I know. But you saw with Epstein as well, all of the mainstream media came out together on one

day a week ago after the release and all of them at the same article Epstein with a kind of Russian hat

on and saying, hey, perhaps it's Putin who is working with Epstein. It's so absurd, but

this is how they work. And it's like, what was that phrase? I forget who said it,

always accuse your enemy of what you yourself are doing. It's like, it's opposites day with them.

It's like, if you were trying to convince someone, you wouldn't be maybe silly enough to tell them

the opposite of the truth, that's easy to debunk. But it actually doesn't stop them because

they're only trying to talk to the 60, 70% of normies who will swallow anything. So they are

free to tell you absolute nonsense because they're not addressing the smartest 20%. They know that

those guys know what's going on. They're trying to keep the cattle confused. So that's why

they throw them alien stuff and ridiculous nonsense because they're only aiming at the stupidest

60%. That's all they want to keep on board. It's terrible. It's very insulting. It is. And

I don't say they nested this stupidest. I got slightly different, which I'll come to in a second.

But those that are watching, if you're watching this, please post a comment saying whether Putin

made you post that comment or not. I'd love to know, right? See how many we can get? How many

Putin comments Putin made me post this? I want to know. Yeah. Every, every, every argument I don't

like I say it's about Putin. I'd be, it's crazy. Putin, you said about mass migration. I mean, come

on. Putin acts. Watch what people do. Not what they say. He acts as a patriot essentially. Yeah.

And they've kept Russia pretty clean. Yeah. Right? There is no evidence for him promoting. In fact,

he's gone on the record. No, he's promoted it to destroy Europe. Oh no, but there's no evidence

of that. He has said himself in many quotes that he said to Europe and the West, you, your problem

is your elites. They're causing your mass migration, which is true. We know where the mass

migration is coming from. It's the NGOs and our politicians here as crystal, a hundred percent

on the record, the NGOs, Western and our politicians. That's who's doing it. Clear as day. Yeah.

Where is Putin's place in that? Zero evidence. There is no evidence of Russian infiltration.

And we've been through this already as you know, Rich. I mean, the whole fake Russian stuff with

with Trump in this first run for office. I mean, again and again, the Russians are coming as used.

And now it's just a first. When they say 60 percent of the stupidest, that's a bit unfair.

The most naive, the most program. Those that don't question, those that don't question.

And yeah. And then for me, you know, my children never went to school. They never had the

questioning beaten out of them. And one of the things I learned through the work of John Taylor

Gatto is what they did, Empire did, what they learned in India, what India was doing with its own

was teaching parrot learning, learning by rope, learning by rope. And what the British discovered

is that that killed the capacity for questioning. Now, if I don't question, and I don't,

and I just accept, and I don't question, I just accept, and I don't question, I just accept,

I lose the creative connections and neurological connections in my brain for actually questioning.

And all that happened because they're not being fired. All that's happening are the connections

for acceptance, other ones that are being strengthened. They're the ones that having their

myelin, sheath, reinforce, and the other ones fall out, fall into decay. So then you have a

situation where people have no triggers for questioning. And then, so then they're told, okay,

well, this is for your own good, please line up repeatedly several times a day, roll up your sleeves

because we want you to take this novel medical concoction. Okay, sure. And I'll wear 20

masks as well while I'm doing it. And I won't go and see Granny either. Let her die in her own.

That's how it works. I've heard that the IcaGuy method, I-K-I-G-A-I,

Japanese method for addiction, overcoming addiction and all, but there's lots of interesting stuff

that these cultures knew. And one description I heard in IcaGuy was like, the brain is like a

heat field. And when you walk through it, you create paths. And those paths are easier to follow.

So when you want to overcome an addiction, it's not that you attack the addiction itself.

You create a new path, a new path. But you're absolutely right. What they've done, and there's no

coincidence that Rockefeller and Carnegie and all the oligarchs way back got heavily into the

education system because they know that. So if you own the education system and you stuff it

full of Marxist professors, you can create all these paths through the heat field in the new

generations. And they're going to be kind of locked into them until they awaken. And then you

need to do quite a bit of work yourself to create new pathways. You know, new conspiracy

analysts. At first, they feel odd. When they begin to question the paths that they have been given,

they feel weird. They need to persist a little. And then they begin to create paths. And then the

old paths get grow, grow, grow together. And then they're free. And now they're critical thinkers.

Yes. More of that, please. Yes. And the last, the last thing that the state ones are critical

thinkers. Oh, wow. Yes. Hence the drive for schooling, including, and this is happening in

Ireland, where you are, and in Britain, where I am, and probably in Europe, and possibly still in

democratic states in the United States, pushing the transgender on children. The government in

England in Britain has published new guidance, which says that children are going to be allowed to

transition as young as four, encourage to transition without their parents even knowing.

I heard that. And there's in Ireland, it's similar. I mean, there was the cast report a year or

two ago that came out. And it's amazing. It was published. But these professors of psychology

all got together. And they came out clear as crystal. It is very dangerous to affirm a child's

kind of confusion around their gender and sex. You have to explore, find out why and help them

properly. But you cannot affirm them and go along with their delusion. But the cast report just

just fell off the map. It was official. It caused a lot of money. Its answer was clear. You and I

would agree with it because it's common sense. But the governments are going ahead with their own

madness because the guys up top are demanding trans. Of course, you know, look at the Pritzkers in

America, the multibillionaire Pritzkers and all these oligarchs. They're funding trans movements.

They're funding NGOs. They've created NGOs because same with everything else that the

oligarchy, the network do, anything that we can society, we can certainty, we can customs and

norms, anything that we can society. We can family, we can family, we can relationships between

children and parents, we can how we anchor ourselves and know ourselves who we are.

Anything that does that makes us easy to rule. If I'm so confused that I can't tell whether I'm a

man or a woman, then getting me to eat bugs is no problem at all. I'm telling you, by the

bowl fold, it's crazy. There was an interview came out with an Irish professor of psychology

or at least a lecturer just a couple of days ago and I watched it and he said it really is terrifying.

So whenever he's tried to question the affirming of someone as trans, even like young people,

he gets attacked violently. People put complaints into his college trying to get him fired.

He said it's an insanity that is way worse than most people even realize and he said to

research for this interview with Jan Alondon, I forget the guy's name himself, to research before

the interview. He actually went to find out of around 20 psychology and coaching outfits,

official ones in Ireland. How many were breaking the rules of the psychology association?

So just to make it clear, the psychology association is still rational and it says when you get a

young person with kind of any kind of issue, including thinking they're a cat or thinking they're

the other sex, doesn't matter. You're meant to explore it openly, don't affirm their delusion,

explore it and look for a trauma in the past or an identity issue that is developed and you try

and find out what the problem is and help them understand maybe why and maybe that will lead to them

improving their problem, their psychology problem. But he said even though the psychology

society in Ireland says you never affirm, you properly explore at 18 out of 20 of the outfits

he checked clearly affirm, that's their process. So 18 out of 20 are actually in breach of the

standards, the psychology standards, like it's so bad and so dangerous. Well 18 out of 20 are in

breach of basic biological science. The biology yes but even worse perhaps rich,

they're in breach of fully established approaches in psychology to help people, especially young

people with psychological problems. So they're breaching their own guidelines on psychology and

the cast report and they're doing it because it's a mass formation driven by billionaire funded

NGOs and let's be honest, outright whack jobs. The people from the NGOs driving the trans stuff,

I've seen them speak, they shouldn't be allowed any platform, they're crazy, I mean they really

are crazy. Well here's one thing about them and it goes also for people like just support and

extension rebellion, they won't debate, they won't have civil debate and discourse, they just

won't do that. And I remember rich a couple of years ago down, so I can't remember the exact

details, but there was a release of emails from within one of these trans crazy organizations

and they'd listed out guidelines for older members how to push forward their agenda and they

specifically called out in Ireland, it will not be advantageous to talk openly about our stuff

to the people. So it suggested get involved with politicians, but behind closed doors, no public

meetings, no public discussions, they told their members to lobby privately directly with politicians

and school kind of authorities, but do not make the mistake in Ireland of allowing the

conversation out into the public because it'll just blow back on us. Obviously because ordinary people

are going to listen to this nonsense and they're going to rip your head off easily, logically,

like we can, but no work behind the scenes and then use the authorities to force the madness

onto the masses. And then the masses will think, well, the experts are saying the experts don't

question the experts, right? That one. And then it does, I don't know if it was Epstein that

probably it wasn't the source of this conversation, but certainly in the beginning, because in the

Epstein files, they were talking about bringing about this conversation, promoting the whole trans

agenda. Yeah, and if people are good, I'll just say, God, please let that undermine the trans agenda

for the fraud that it is. Well, of course, and CRG, S-A-Y-E-E-R space J-I, if you look up CRG and

Epstein trans, he did an incredible blog post and he broke out all of the files, all of the emails

and he put together the full picture, not just the one I featured, where he was talking to some

pervert professor, and they were talking absolute filth and gushing about the trans agenda. And

Epstein did fund that guy's outfit. So Epstein was arranging funding, but if you look up that

blog post, it's really good or substag goes through the details. It comes from the oligarchs.

Yes, the trans thoughts comes from the oligarchs. I could tell it was top down because

because it popped out of nowhere, unlike authentic grassroots movements, like anti-war movements,

and with regards to CRG, I have DMed him on X because I'd love to have him for an interview. So

if you're watching him or if anybody's connected to him, please get him to DM me on X.

Well, I was messaging with him actually the other day, so I'll pass on your contact.

I found CRG and Green Med info back in 2012 when I first was discovering all the

health and diet and the biochemistry stuff. I came across him and he had incredible material

way back then, all nutrition and health. And now here he is like in all the new issues,

just like I've moved into the new issues. He is a super smart guy and he moves for the big issue

is, which is the way we have to be. Yes, well, please connect to him via X. I'd really appreciate

that. Okay, then one of the things I just want to make reference to is the Gorton bi-election

in Manchester. We had, because we're recording this on Friday the 27th February, this happened

in the UK and the bi-election was yesterday because a Labour MP resigned. It's one of the safest

Labour constituencies and the Green Party won. I just saw that this morning. I don't really know

the full context. The first thing I thought was that absolute whack job, who is the most senior guy

in the green movement? Zack Palensky. Zack Palensky. And he's changed his name and look, we won't get

into who he is in his background, right? But he is off the wall. And he's somehow being shown

as an alternative. Yeah, I mean, the crazy. This is what he reminds me of Mamdani. Came out of nowhere,

Articular, well-spoken, says all the right things, right? Appeals to the left. And I'm like,

no, no, no, this is this ain't right. And then there are a few things about him, right? He's all

four, ending the slaughter in of Palestinians. Let's bring peace there. You and I would agree.

But going through his X-feed, he wants us to fight on to support Ukraine and his fight against

Russia. Well, how green is that? How green is that to support? What one, how consistent is that

it's like, I'm for, I'm for peace, except for these people, right? And then, and then I'm, I'm

all about the environment and green and everything. And I can't think of any human activity more

damaging to the environment than war. Oh, I don't support this war, but I support that war.

Yeah. That's true. You can be sure, Reg. He's backed. Yeah. Now, it might not be on the record.

And it might be hard to find the receipts. But so was all the stuff that's only now released

from Epstein. He's backed. He absolutely. He's a blow-in. I mean, just so obviously. So he's

saying a lot of things that his backers don't agree with, but he's allowed to say them, right,

to get populist. And then he's coming out with other nonsense that they do want them to say.

But they're very careful. But if he got into power, suddenly he'd be saying all the things

his backers want. But right now he has to be careful. So he says a little bit of stuff to be

populist. It's the same old trick for all the human history. And it's such a fragile coalition

between Muslims and the work left. Oh. How's that going to work out?

Oh my gosh. They played the long game. So they'll make affiliations. But over the long game,

then they'll drop some and add others. Whatever it takes to win. They're ultimately Machiavellians.

The end justifies the means. So you're going to see all of these weird alliances that you think

don't make sense. Well, they don't. But they're playing the long game and they know most people are

gullible and confused. So they're running a strand in circles. Not you or me. But that's why we need

more people, you know, to re-tragedy and hope, whatever. Watch you. Watch Longo. Watch Craneer.

And just begin to put together what can be quite complicated looking picture.

But once you crack it and you realize how the chess game is played, you don't need to be an expert

in 3D chess. You just need to have a grasp of how it's played and then you'll, you won't be fooled.

And that's the biggest thing people should be focused on. It's so important, but the education

system you rightly said has knocked it out of them. You have to be a critical thinker and you

can't be being fooled. You know, if you want to have the most productive life on this planet,

it's the most important thing. But most people are watching football and deadflex.

Listening to the experts. And I, I, I, what you said, you're an absolute genius. Yes, people

got to listen to me and listen to Alex Cainer and Tom Luongo and Iver Cummings.

And I'll have the link. Yeah. No, because the thing that I've noticed about you because listening

over the years is you're willing to examine stuff and change your position in the light of new

evidence. Absolutely. And not only that rich, but the 30 years in complex problem solving.

Luckily, I burnt the cognitive bias, the confirmation bias out of my system. And it's really hard to do.

Took me decades. And the confirmation bias says, if you believe something, you'll tend to see the

evidence that supports it and you'll tend to brush your sides subconsciously the evidence

that conflicts. It takes decades in the game to truly control that.

Right.

Luckily, I'm there. Dr. Mike Geeds is there. Cainer will be there. You're there.

I don't, I don't know if I am. I'm always, well, the, the beauty is anyway,

if you agree with me and I am there, then you're pretty much de facto there. That's

because nobody is there, right? Please let me know if you've got an Ivan Cummings pro bias.

Well, and the other, the other thing I have to add to that actually is there's, okay, there's

the lack of bias. But also, you can go further. And what I've done my whole career in problem solving,

I discovered a long time ago, you have to actually spend your energy a lot at the time trying

to prove yourself wrong. So you can truly not have bias. So you cover your ass by trying to

prove your opinion wrong. And if you do it honestly and you can't really prove yourself wrong,

that's very powerful. You know, that really can strengthen your, your comfort that you're

on the right track. Whereas if you just look for things to prove yourself right, well, that's easy.

There'll always be stuff that supports you. You need to look at the stuff that goes against you.

And if you can't prove yourself wrong, it's very, very powerful. And that's the way I think a lot

of the best guys do it. If they get the slightest smell that they could be wrong or a critic says

something that might be valid, you need to go down that rabbit hole quick. Yes. And they bloody

sure you're not wrong. Honestly. But the problem now is the big one, as you well know, is censorship

and cancelling. And there's certain topics we won't get into here. Most topics now, you can

generally talk about openly. There's some that still you're not allowed to talk about. But I

think if we don't talk about some of those topics over time, we're going to be fooled, fooled,

fooled again. Well, we have to, we have to talk around them like the novel medical intervention.

And just to acknowledge you and I are not photosynthesis deniers.

No, absolutely not. I've a absolute treat and a joy talking to you as ever. Look forward

to doing this again. By the way, I will be recording a video on Operation Gladio in a few weeks

times. So do watch out for that. Please, let's subscribe, comment and like to Iver and follow him

and me. And thank you so much. This is Rich and Iver signing out. All the best. Bye bye.