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Manusphere lied about feminist most affected where we're going to be looking at the next best thing.

Well, I don't know if it's the next best thing or the real thing that sort of comes out of Louis Theroux's

inside the Manusphere documentary. Is it really Louis Theroux Theroux?

Louis Theroux Theroux Theroux. It could be Theroux. I don't know.

Theroux Theroux. I feel like Theroux Theroux or Theroux.

Somebody DMed me and was like, I think it's pronounced this way and it's like, I don't care.

I don't care. Like, I mean, it's just the last thing that's on my mind is getting this,

the name of this muck rickers, uh, pronounced correctly. It just, uh, just, I mean, look,

I, I want to try to be like, I don't know, Theroux or Theroux with people.

Theroux and getting their names right. But, um, yeah, I mean, like not enough to,

like, Louis Theroux. Well, let's face it. He's part, he's obviously part of the Norman,

Norman invasion of, of the UK. So, yeah, he really owes, he really owes the Anglo-Saxon's reparations.

Let's, come on. Oh, yeah, anyway. So after that documentary was released,

a lot of people had takes on them. And of course, it's been, huh?

Yeah, they have takes. Yes, they have takes. They have opinions.

And of course, those are, I mean, like, it's, this is kind of the way it goes, right?

So Louis Theroux or whoever it is, makes a documentary about the manosphere,

men's rights activists, uh, the red pill, pushing back on feminism,

or whatever the sort of establishment status quo ideology of, you know,

that, that is approved by the powers that be. And they, what they do is they have someone

do a documentary on it. And that person usually, you know, edits and lies,

and takes them out of context. And is about as disc, disc, let's say, um,

uncharitable as possible. And then that gets out into the mainstream.

And everyone else uses it as truth. And then they just react to it.

And so now we're at stage two of the inside the manosphere documentary being

released, which is all of the people on lawn line, the influencers, the tick

tockers, the YouTubers, the bloggers, the journalists, the activists,

the psychologists, the professors, the politicians, and they all have a

take. And of course, like, almost all of it doesn't side with the

subjects of the documentary. And I think that that's, I mean, you know,

part ignorance on the part of the people that do it, but mostly it's malice,

because they were looking for a way to discredit, not just like the

manosphere in terms of like who is actually featured in the film, but more

importantly, the manosphere as a whole, which is essentially the dissident

part of the internet that has its issue with things as they are.

You know, yeah, yes.

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All right, so let's perfect day to watch.

Are we watching Byrony Claire again?

Of course.

Yeah, so here we have Byrony Claire.

She's made a video.

She has a tape.

And the video is called, I love my husband who hates me.

And essentially, it's not.

Is the matter with your video?

Yes, but the way that Byrony Claire works from what I can tell is that every topic

is an opportunity for her to go after multiple targets at once.

So she will go after the patriarchy and she'll go after what she would describe as bad men

and then all men and then heteronormativity and then capitalism and then Elon Musk and Trump

and Republicans, even though she's not American, but for some reason she goes after Republicans.

And yeah, basically like it's all about like how many different individuals and systems can I use the topic

to essentially attack by throwing them all under the same umbrella at the same time.

And Thoreau was doing that in his documentary too.

Like I didn't mention this, but there was B-roll of what he was saying, you know,

the spiritual hub of the manosphere and there was a shot of a cyber truck, which, you know, not an accident.

These people do this stuff on purpose.

And it's all about, like, it doesn't matter.

There's evidence of any of that.

It's all about creating the correlation so that you are manipulated by it.

And I think that his film was aimed at women mainly because the way that he was shooting it,

it was like he was sizing, he was being a woman sizing up the worth of the men he was interviewing,

which is why he would call into question their masculinity instead of like talking about issues and stuff.

He was treating it like how he thought a woman would treat it if a woman watched it.

And that was by design.

And morality and his service to masculinity more there of you as quote unquote ethics.

And their alleged service to feminism really not really women.

Because if he cared about the women, he wouldn't have food word around them.

And wouldn't have tried to poke holes and whatever.

However, they'd arranged their lives up to that point.

Yeah, but feminists do that to women too.

Of course they do.

Yeah, yeah.

That's their favorite sport.

Okay.

So anyway, so this is Barbara declares video.

And I'm sort of like setting it up.

The video is actually about, I guess, like, you know, women who are,

who love their husbands despite the fact that their husband's clearly hate them or don't respect them or some,

some others such nonsense.

And so the man in spirit comes into it as one of the sections.

So how does she know that their husbands don't love them?

Because she watched Louis Theroux's documentary and now she gets to reference it.

Oh, that's what she's talking about.

Yes.

She watched the documentary.

It confirmed all of her biases.

It made her look like a prophet and now she's going to share it with the masses.

That's, that's the point.

Of course.

That's the point.

That's the point at all, isn't it?

All right.

Well, yeah, like, like, imagine the women really like to watch mysteries, like murder mysteries, right?

And one of the things that makes murder mysteries fun is you get to try to predict who, who done it?

Like, you get to pretend to be detective while the story unfolds.

Or at least that's what I imagine.

And women like to do that.

They also like to, like, analyze when they watch films and stories.

They like to look at the social dynamics going on.

That's why women love soap operas.

They like to see social dynamics at play.

They like to see drama intensify, even if it is unrealistic.

Because it's fun to do that in the same way that men like to watch action movies, even though sometimes the action is unrealistic.

And part of what I think they get out of that is they get to feel like they are, like, I don't know, like they have some kind of sense, like a higher, like a six sense for social dynamics for understanding people.

And the manosphere documentary was made in that style.

So that women could watch it and say, oh, I knew, you know, Myron Gaines was a piece of shit and he was actually really insecure.

I could tell because the film told it paints that picture.

And then the women take that away from him and they're like, oh, yeah, this is it.

This is what I thought.

That's what I mean when I say it's, it's like made with women's in mind, you know, especially women that are on the lookout for bad men.

Because I think women are scanning like for the quality of people.

And so if a man has like they get like a gut feeling about a guy and then the documentary confirms their bias, then they're going to like, you know, double down on that on that emotion.

And then you're going to get the people like Brian declare that will make content about it about it.

And then they they turn it into something academic and then they break it down.

Like here's why these men are all garbage.

And here is why we can extrapolate from this specimen.

And we can look at like why, you know, all men are like in some way, you know, in in this same environment is because of patriarchy and capitalism and white supremacy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So that's what I think, but anyway.

So let's get into Brian E. Claire's connecting the idea that there exists these women who are handmade to the patriarchy that unknowingly are slaves to their men who actually don't even care about them.

Have the ones that are fighting to keep the child marriage as a thing in the US that hold on a second.

I think I'm got double sound here.

All right.

Always Republicans.

And did you know that in Texas?

She's saying like this is again, she's just turning into a political thing.

You can't get to post it.

Is it?

Yeah.

You're pregnant.

As I have brought up on my channel for a very long time.

This point.

The man is fit.

What?

What was that?

It's only a very mild.

It's only a very mild echo.

Don't worry about it.

Okay.

The right.

Right leading politics have existed for a very long time.

He didn't require what do you think the manosphere was the gateway for the Republicans into the into American politics.

What is this nonsense?

gonna continue. Yeah, okay. Five years ago, which would absolutely shocking, they're being said

on main. How the man in sphere is making misogyny mainstream, just pointing out like what the headline

she's using as her resource, okay? These are her resources. Now, of course, again,

they're, well, there's obviously a method to her madness.

The platforms now, by politicians, we are in incredibly scary times and funding for women.

A cash 22 for survivors of domestic violence, Trump ed min, simultaneously slashes, housing,

and VAWA funds. So, housing, I don't know what that is, that's probably fraud. I'm guessing,

and VAWA, the Violence Against Women Act, that was bullshit to begin with, and Hannah could go

on and on about it. So, I'll just say that it is a special kind of extra government funded

services that are not necessary because women are not at risk. In fact, if anything, because they

still have the Duluth model, men are still at more at risk. But she's just gonna, again,

this is all emotional stuff that she's doing. Well, I mean, even if you just want to look at women,

feminists prioritize feminist conjecture and the political utility of feminist conjecture over

actually protecting women. So, whenever they talk about feminists like Byron E. Claire talk about

domestic violence, they're actually stealing valor in order to advance their own ideological

positions. And they don't give a crap about women who are dealing with domestic violence.

Well, you don't give a crap about men, but that's obvious. They also don't crave a crap about

women. If they did, they wouldn't put feminist conjecture over interventions that actually

reduce the rate at which women experience domestic violence. But yes, Byron E. Let's tell us all,

tell us all about what you advocate for. Yeah.

Felters keeps on getting slashed. And Louis Theroux's new Netflix documentary into the

manosphere. We see glimpses of women who are in relationships with these men who say stuff like

this. You married? No. Are you saying you're not in a monogamous relationship? One sided monogamous?

Okay, so so apparently this was taken out of context as well. And his wife is or not wife. Sorry,

his live baby mama is bisexual. So not even sure who's the one driving this.

Well, that's why he would say, you know, I'd show them a picture of my wife and how attractive

she is. And then he'd bring a girl home. So that's probably that explains that more. But Louis Theroux

does not see the thing. That's not. Yeah. But that's going to erase the lies. Yeah, of course,

that's what you do. But this is also not really one sided monogamy. He might be framing that for

his audience. But if this is something he does with his wife and his wife is having sex with

people who are not him, how is it one sided monogamy? Explain that? Yeah. Like it's engaging in

sexual behavior with other women. And he is also that's not one sided monogamy that's swinging

just with women. Like it's so even the nomenclature doesn't seem to be accurate. And then we have

to listen to Byrony Claire. Add her own bullshit onto what is already incorrectly characterized.

Exactly. It's like I said, orders of magnitude lies. Like Louis Theroux tells the first lie.

And maybe it's a small lie. And then Byrony Claire and other feminists activists take that and

they expand on the lie and they make it into a much bigger lie. And it's harder to debunk because

you have to go several steps back. So if somebody catches her in a lie, for example, then

then you just hold on to the other lie, the lie that preceded it. And people don't they'd have

to do that extra work to figure it out that that's also a lie. So it's yeah, that's what I mean.

It's like when feminists make they make claims and they use feminist data, they are taking

lies to make lies that you know that that are exponentially growing. And it's harder to unpack

them all because you'd have to take you don't even know where like the the the the the BS begins.

So maybe you just tackle the one and you just like accept everything else, right? So.

Well, and there's the there's also the fact that this is not traditional.

No, it's not. Okay. This is absolutely 100% not traditional. There's no traditional society

where you have three sums with another woman and your wife. All right, that's not this is actually a

liberal post sexual revolution arrangement that could only have occurred because of feminism.

Openly. There's only the only way this wasn't this he's declaring this openly is because he is not a

traditionalist realistically. He is a downstream effect of sexual quote unquote liberation.

And so he's he is a sexual liberty. And that is not traditional. Right. No society would have

accepted this prior to the 1960s. Certainly not openly. He'd probably get okay. Lord Byron

had some pretty sketchy things that he did. And he was removed from polite society. Like you

know, you couldn't declare stuff like this as a man in public and expect to continue to be

received in polite society. Right. This was not acceptable behavior.

So once again, we're looking at a man who is downstream of feminism. This guy wouldn't exist if

feminism hadn't existed. And now we have a feminist complaining about it. Right. Yep.

Okay. It's astounding. Yeah. What if you don't want liberties, don't throw your feminism all over

the floor. That's how you get ants. All right. There you go. Yep. All right. Let's keep going.

Women don't want to sleep with other men when they love a man. Did you also catch this moment?

One side of monogamy means what? It means like the mother of my children, the woman that I'm with,

she doesn't talk to other men. He doesn't let her talk to other men. Isolation. Here's

other girlfriends, by the way. So though, notice she brains it as isolation. Like this guy's

baby mama is trapped and can't like go out and do things with other people. Not that she chose it,

not that she didn't say in the documentary that she was okay with this arrangement. By the way,

this polygyny, which is what it kind of is, assuming it's true, because these guys are salesman,

they could be exaggerating or just outright lying about their conquests. But let's assume it's

true for the sake of argument. This polygyny situation is another thing that feminism created.

You can't blame traditionalism or Christianity or any of the other made-up shit that you want to

blame, because that's literally not what it is. When you have a situation where you have undercut

the sexual marketplace value of what? What is it? 80% of men now? It's not even the average men.

It's two standard deviations better looking than average or more attractive than average men

is now fucked. When you do that, when you undercut the sexual marketplace value of that many men,

the remaining men who are being hunted by what? A couple dozen women each can set the terms.

And this dude said his terms. And she decided, okay, those are the terms I'll live by.

Interestingly enough, she seems to, I guess she leveraged her bisexuality as a sales point.

But again, this wouldn't happen. This man would not exist. He would not be public about his

sexual appetites if he's the driver of this, who knows, maybe she is.

He wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for the sexual quote-unquote revolution,

and also feminism undermining most men so this guy can have multiple women.

Right? Again, another symptom of feminism. And he gets to set the terms because that's how it works.

That's how it works. If most women are going after the top 20%, top 10%, whatever it is now.

Right? Like I just walked past a couple women in my town of what, 1200 people less? And they were

talking about calling the weak from the herd as they, I guess, scrolled through some stupid

dating app. I'm like, listening to this. I'm like, okay, that's what that, this is the downstream

effect of calling the weak from the herd. And only going after the top, top, top men. Well,

you got a lot of competition and they can set the terms. That is not patriarchy. And I guess it's

the manosphere. Is that the manosphere? Is that like all these guys standing or giving money to

men? No, I think the manosphere is just men responding to that market, that market reality.

Like they're like, okay, so this is what women are doing. They're basically calling the weak.

Well, I don't want to be cold. So I'm going to basically make myself

as appealing as possible. And it, I think it does create cynicism in those men too. Because then they,

they basically, they make it, the men don't do this. The women make it transactional in a way.

Because they're just looking at it. It's like go into the grocery store and you're just trying

to get the best deal on, you know, your vegetables. And that's the only thing that matters. You're

not concerned with like, you know, what, what, I don't know, which one's going to stay good longer?

What's going to pair better with whatever you plan on eating or whatever. You're just looking at

the best deal, you know, and then men just see it. It's like, okay, these are just women I just

look at for the best deal. So I'm going to like just do that and all the other stuff. It's they're

going to, I can see how they're cynical. Maybe even a little bit bitter, you know? Yeah, well,

I mean, we wouldn't be like, if, if, if being the best deal means that you have to be three inches

taller than average, right? How's that going to happen for anyone? Just, it's, it is just,

and what, what, the reason why this is the case is because feminism has taught women that their

primary social value is in rejecting men. And that in a relationship with the men, they're being

taken advantage of, they're being oppressed. The man gets the good deal, they get nothing.

So feminism has told that women to this so that the only men who can rise above,

women's belief that their social value increases with rejection are men who have so much

ridiculous amounts of social proof. Literally, they've constructed a situation where the only

men who are attractive are men who already have multiple, like dozens of women orbiting them,

which means that even if all of the men in the manosphere who watching these guys talk about their,

what, their lifestyle, if they all rose up and had this, they were just the goods, like they

represented the same quality of goods as these men, they would still be screwed. So you guys are

in the manosphere? You're all chasing something that doesn't exist and can't possibly exist,

because as soon as you get to that level, it is, it is, it is, it is a moving target that has

moved to the next level because it's always whatever men who can get multiple women. So if every man

is as good as this dude, what's his name, James? The red head, the soulless one. Yeah,

why am I forgetting his name? Okay, I have a note, yeah. Let's say everyone in his audience,

every man in his audience, Justin Waller, Justin Waller, was just suddenly at Justin Waller's

level. Wouldn't matter. No, you wouldn't get a woman because the women, the only ones of you,

of you multiple Justin Wallers, would be the next top 5% of Justin Wallers who can get the best

women or the most women. So it's always this moving target until we get rid of this nonsense about

how women gain social value through rejecting men, how women lose social value by being in a

relationship with the men, how women are being cheated out of something by being in a relationship

with the men, how relationships with men are a source of women's oppression. Therefore,

there's always, there's always a negative that men like a debt in a relationship that a man

can never give enough to actually overcome. There's all that debt, just going into the relationship,

a man is in debt to his woman and he should, he has to bring so much to even overcome that debt.

You have, you noticed that this is the attitude that a lot of women have, at least the ones who

talk about early internet, that men come to a relationship with debt and the only men who can

can pay off that debt are the very tippy top and they can only pay off that debt because they have

other women who wants them and it's the other women's social proof that actually neutralizes the

debt the man makes, the man creates in by wanting to be in a relationship with a woman and you

you're never going to, you cannot fix this by constantly jumping through hoops and trying to

get up over the bar wherever it is now. Right, you can't fix this that way. Like I said,

and then this is what, what, this is my big criticism of the manosphere. It's dysfunctional.

I mean, yes, you can get the manosphere being the guys that are featured in this documentary,

those guys. Yeah, well, I mean, we'll think about it. If there, if, if it was a situation where

their audience actually increased, first of all, what level did your audience have to actually

increase to be up at the Justin, Justin Walker? That was, isn't it? Waller, Justin Waller.

What level, I mean, is it even possible for his audience to be at the level? Or most men, it is not,

no, in most men, because he's tall, right? Well, I don't know. I assume so, but like ultimately,

harder than thorough anyway. I, yeah, I ultimately, these menosphere guys that are being featured

here. They're only there because they're trying to fill a market. There's a market for men looking

to maximize their ability to attract a woman. These guys are selling themselves as red pill,

but they're clearly not because they're, their, their whole brain is built on attracting women.

It's a blue-pilled belief system from the ground up, but they, they know, I think these guys

are using the loneliness and the frustration that the majority of men are experiencing with,

you know, trying to find a wife that they can start a family with, which was, which it is nothing

controversial about that. That's why I get annoyed with it even being called a conservative

position. It's like, no, it's a normal position. It's like how we perpetuate the species.

It's, it's normal, but, but it's at the point now where it's so difficult and so frustrating for

men to attain that these quote-unquote red pill, manosphere guys can come and sell them this promise

that if they just follow their instructions, go, you know, get their, join their group,

go to the telegram, buy the, this classes, whatever it is that they'll be able to figure it out.

Now, yeah, I think these guys are exploiting these men because those men,

that's not going to help them because as you said, if any of them can even become

anything like a Justin Waller, they're still going to probably get passed up because women

will simply adapt their ridiculous standards to match the new layout, the new landscape,

and they'll be like, oh, now I want 5% of these guys because that's how they see the world.

It's like how, well, I can do better than, I can do better than this. And that's not, and the

majority of these guys are just not going to be able to do it, like the overwhelming majority.

This is something that I have said, we've said on this channel, and yeah, Andrew Wilson has said it

too. He says, well, my problem with them is that their prescription is not going to help them

because it's not really the problem. The, the men are not doing anything wrong.

Ultimately, they're not, right?

Okay, so the reason why it doesn't fill the debt, like the debt that a man, right now women think

that a man gets in a relationship with them, with him, he comes with a whole bunch of debt,

and that debt is what? Patriarchy, oppression, male privilege, emotional labor, the much

bullshitery of the wage gap and the chore gap, right? The household labor gap. All of this,

this entire narrative, that baggage a man brings into a relationship, according to feminism,

and the women who believe in this crap, right? So they bring in this gigantic debt. Well,

how does a man neutralize that debt? That social debt? Yes, he has to neutralize her debt too,

because she shows up with debt. Yeah, well, that's not functional. It's like his debt to her,

which she's an insurgent's imagined, and then her actual debt.

But how does he neutralize that social debt? The only way is social credit, like that, not social

credit. Like, what is that, that term, the, you pre-approved basically by other women?

She has to come into the relationship pre-approved by multiple women before she'll consider it,

because that's the only way he can neutralize his debt. Like, if Justin Waller

decided, hey, I don't want to have an open marriage anymore, wouldn't his marriage survive that?

Right? If he can't demonstrate that he can pull women or he wants to stop, and he's like, no,

I'm not interested in this anymore. And incidentally, I can get into a bit of the vast

of press and research. That's the male bonding hormone, just as an analysis, but I'll just

only do you guys want me to do. We have a lot of video to get through, and then I have a couple

of other videos I want to show off really quick too. But if he did close off his marriage,

would it survive, or his relationship? Would it survive? If he told her tomorrow, I'm not going to

demonstrate my social value to other women to you anymore. I don't feel like being your monkey.

You're just going to have to value me for me. What would she say? What would she do? Would she stay?

Right? What about when he gets old? Like, what about when he's in his 60s? And he can't pull women

anymore. Is she going to stay? Right? Here's the question. Because that looks like to me

that he has to continuously demonstrate his value to other women for her to continue to value him.

Now, that is a possibility. She may just be a bisexual slute. Who knows?

Maybe you've heard of Kink and she just doesn't want to let it go in a monogamous relationship.

She doesn't care about fricking STDs and her children. But that's, there could be that too.

But this is a possible interpretation. She wants him to continue to demonstrate

that he has surplus social value. And the way that he does that is by continuing to demonstrate

that he's desirable to other women. Well, she literally says, no, no, it's true. She says it in the

documentary. The reason why she likes him is because he is desirable. Basically, she likes that he

makes women jealous of her. That's what she basically says in so many words in the documentary.

So she's not not benefiting. Now, Bryony here, just to bring it back to this, is claiming that

she's a prisoner. She's literally like a prisoner of this guy. Even though she says in the

documentary, I like that other women want the man that is mine, that has that as my children.

Like, there's something that she gets out of it. So it is completely selfish.

And yeah, when his sexual value, like if it deteriorates or if something happens,

then if you might look at him or if some younger guy that's got more money shows up, you know,

I don't know. I mean, I don't think they're going to, I think that she's going to become less

desirable over time though. Not just because she's passed a few kids through there, but because

she's also getting older. And I think that like, she's kind of like, doesn't mean that she's

not going to be tempted, but I don't think that the opportunity is going to be there as much.

But I do think that she's not going to see him the same way.

Yeah, well, I mean, that happens to everyone, right? Yeah.

So, but in terms of, like, and this is the reason why I bring this up is because there's this

moment where he was, they were talking about all this and Saro was talking to his woman,

even though apparently he doesn't let his woman talk to men. Well, he said he originally wouldn't

do that, but the row basically got, got him to let him see her. Yeah, why, why would you do,

anyway, I went over that last time, but there's this moment where she's talking about this situation.

He doesn't, I don't know, he just doesn't look very happy. He doesn't look like a happy dude.

And I'm like, thinking about this and it's like, is this really what you want?

They're constantly proving yourself to your wife by pulling women? Like,

and honestly, if you look at like the vast press and research,

if it is a conservative, like if the endocrinology is conservative, which generally is,

that's not necessarily a very happy place for male polyparebony animal,

because they tend to actually start to get aggressive towards strange females.

Like, it's an it's an it's an effect of vast press and put, I don't know,

like maybe she's fine with it, she's fine with it. Hopefully, their kids don't get anything

disgusting. So, anyway, let's keep going. Let's keep going. His name tattooed on them.

Better like that hard tattoo on my name on them.

Why would they do that? What would they do? What tattoo your name on them?

They've been branded as his not the head of a same hood.

So, the women got tattoos of Justin Waller's name on them according to Justin Waller.

And that, according to Theroux, the way that it's framed, it's already bad enough that these women

are so enthralled that they got tattoos of this guy's name on them, even though

I don't think Justin is saying that you should do that. They're just choosing to do that in the

assuming again, assuming all of this is true. So, women are choosing

to get a man's name tattooed on them, which yeah, I should speak to their character,

but whatever. Theroux's not going to he's not going to go there because he's he's got a frame.

Explain that.

Like seriously, though, you're dating, right? You're a woman.

And you I guess want to have a sexual relationship with a man who's not Justin Waller.

And you got his freaking tattoo on your body. What's the conversation that happens?

I think that you would be surprised at the depths that some people will go to.

And maybe these women have lots of tattoos and like maybe they have multiple men's names on them.

We don't know like we don't know like how, you know, trashy they are, how low their standards might be.

I'm not saying that they are low or anything like that, but I think getting a tattoo is it's sort of

You're getting a tattoo of a person's name of a of a well, no, a man that you've a man that you've

slept with. It's not just like, are you kidding? Oh, good Lord.

Oh, I'm just saying like I think that women can be that impulsive. I'm put it that way. And

but here's the thing that I'm trying to drive at. I'm not because I don't know what's in I would never

do that. Like I don't I wouldn't put Lindsay's name on me. And I'm I'm going to grow and die

with her, but I'm not going to get a tattoo of her name. I don't I don't need to be reminded.

I like that I'm with her. So, but anyway, if that's not the point, the point is you have women

making the choice to get a man's name tattooed on them. And Thuru is presenting this in his

documentary as something that's already supposed to make the audience go, oh my god, for this man.

How could you how what how did this how could you let a man like that get you to do that to yourself?

That's what the audience is supposed to feel. That's why that was left in. You know, you have to

understand that when you watch a documentary that involved the number of interviews,

everything that you see is there very carefully placed there to get you closer to a certain goal.

Okay. And generally that's not some truth, but bribing because she compiles lies on top. She says

her claim is that this is his way of branding the women. So, she says they're branded now. So,

she's almost claiming that he is going around with a brand of his name and putting it on women

and making them his property, even though that doesn't come up in the documentary at all.

So, you see how this escalates, how it goes from woman decides to get a tattoo of a man's name on

her, which yeah, you can have whatever opinion on that you want to, but that would be a judgment

on the woman's behavior. But we don't talk about that at all. The room just pretends like women don't

make decisions immediately cuts to, oh, adjust him must have like gotten them to do it somehow,

like or he's or these women don't know they must they must have fought. He was going to stay with

them forever and that they got a tattoo that he would stick around or something. That's that's what

Thoreau suggests with his clip. And then Brian when he says no, he he he branded them.

So, you see how it escalates? This is what I'm talking about the way that these people they take

something that's already alive and they make it worse. So, anyway. Yeah, I of course I see that.

And of course she's saying that because she consistently she consistently removes women's own choices.

Like what happens if men are totally disconnected from women and women still make choices that feminists

don't like? Yeah. Like he doesn't have control over those women byranny. Unless you're going to argue

that they were dick mesmerized or something. Well, I mean, again, if she, yeah, in his throw,

if she can't, I don't think that I think that's a last resort for Briarney Claire because what she'd

like to do is say these men are just forceful and violent and rapey and they just made these women

do this. But if there's no evidence of that, then she'll lean on the thrall thing. But the thrall

thing is a little bit of weaker argument because then what it means is also women were attracted to

this guy and they just did this. You know, like some people might actually conclude something rational.

So, anyway. His wife did it by choice. They've done it by choice. They just did it because they

wanted to. Probably because they saw it on my wife. Just like the other guys, he didn't want

Louis to be talking about that doesn't that doesn't just that doesn't actually discredit what he said by

Rene. Like, I'm confused. Yeah. Well, because they chose to do it and he and she shows a clip. Oh,

they saw it on my wife. Yes, that doesn't change the fact that they chose to do it by Rene.

But remember, though, the way that she says they chose to do it, and then she rolls her eyes,

she's suggesting that women don't do that on their own accord. Like, women don't make choices.

When the choices are poor, then women didn't make them. They only make the only way choices when

those are are good in the eyes of priority Claire, when she decides that was a good decision,

then it's, oh, you did that. But if it's a bad decision, your man made you do that. There's no way

you did that. You know, I prove that out of it. That's right. My choices are only my own choices

as long as Byrini Claire approves of them. Repulsive, annoying. Okay, let's keep going. All right.

I want her to be on camera. Well, we did eventually get to see his wife and it turns out that she

was an accomplished woman. She was an X-ray technician, which requires in the US a minimum of two years

of high education. Here in Artero is three years. But he did the noble thing of cutting her wings

and she loves the gilded cage that she's in. I feel so good in my femininity because

of how masculine Justin is. She was cheated on in previous relationships. She was treated terribly.

And so her expectations for what she deserves are basically in the gutter. And so my biggest

so the Byrini is now she's saying this woman clearly can't make good decisions because she chose

to be a stay-at-home mom. And here's me saying, oh, because she was lied to and abused and

by other men and cheated on. So, you know, she's only in this position because of men, basically.

So Byrini is also essentially ripping this woman of making personal choices. But that couldn't

happen because it was rational. That must have been man's fault.

Okay, so my problem is also, so we're going to focus on her being a homemaker as the worst aspect

of this. Are we? Yep. Or the aspect that we should. This is the bad ending. Bad ending in a video

game. This is okay. That's the problem that Byrini has with this. Okay. Yep. The wife, the

well, the mama, she got the bad ending. She should have, like, she'd have she'd have

grinded some more, you know, like, got the best gear that she would have gotten the good ending,

which is being single with kids or something, like not being with a man, that's for sure.

Well, she could easily still be single with kids. She always has that option Byrini.

Yeah. My question is also, she says this woman doesn't know how to choose a man. And yet the

problem with a big problem that this woman is having is that her man is being chosen by multiple women.

Okay. All right. Also, I like, you see, though, again, notice that she says, she's living in a

gilded cage. This is another feminist trope thing, right, where, you know, a man like to have,

I think Justin Waller's worth like tens of millions of dollars. He's a multi-multi-millionaire.

And he, basically, I assume his wife or his girl or whatever is well taken care of.

She doesn't appear to be in trouble. They have two daughters. They live in multiple homes.

She's got a pool. She's got like all this stuff. And Byrini is looking at it going, oh, what a prison.

What a, what a gulag that you live in. It bothers me because it's like, you know, he's probably, say

what you want about the guy, but he probably does work hard to make that happen. And that's why

she says, well, he basically works hard all day. And I stay home and take care of the kids. So

she's actually standing by him. You know, again, whatever you think about that arrangement is one

thing, but like, you can't just like take the piss out of what she has. Look at that fucking oven.

Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. But, well, I mean, let's, let's put it this way.

You can't take a piss out of this aspect of their relationship, right? The fact that she feels satisfied

with them. She feels like he's a good provider. She feels like he has enough female attention for

her to continue to be attracted to him. Like, how do you take the pit? Like, how do you?

She's got it. Byrini. She's got what she wants, apparently. Wouldn't manifest style support this?

Yeah. That's a lot of bag that this woman's got. He's definitely got the bag.

All right. Anyway.

Okay. Honestly, I can take the truth. Yeah. Don't ask don't tell the kind of thing. Kind of.

Because you don't need to know. I don't need to know. You don't want the gory details.

What do I need to? It is not even gory, but it turns out that they're not even married.

You married by the way. Yeah. Not, not. I didn't bring the state into it. Why did you not get married

in the eyes of the state? You think the state is in it. The state is already in it, sir.

I mean, Justin says you didn't get married in the eyes of the state. They may have just gotten

like agreed to stay together or maybe they got married like religiously, but not legally.

And I don't blame him because of divorce laws. I think it's probably a good idea, maybe.

But he's fine with it. I mean,

Anyway, apparently after the filming, she bailed on her relationship. Isn't that the other girl

you're thinking of, Richard? That's one with Lyron. That was just two years. Come on. Yeah.

You mean they bailed on any future? I don't know. I didn't look into Justin Waller's situation.

How it develops? No, I don't think Justin Waller was the one. I think it was, um,

was Myron. Yeah. But I have receipts for the Myron thing. That's a whole other,

that's actually really fucked up what the road did there. And I'm guessing that

everyone in his interviews got similar treatment in terms of the editing and selective.

Let's say what they choose to show and not to show.

Okay. Anyway, Allison, you're still there?

Yes. I just have my mute thing on just in case there's any like noise cross contamination.

Okay. No, fair enough. I just, you're quiet. Um, okay.

Still, let's see. The financial side. Okay. Let's keep going. Yeah.

That does, that seems more risky for you, maybe.

This leaves her vulnerable to him just up and leaving. And I looked this up because here in

Altera, if you've lived together for two years and you are in a common law marriage,

therefore you've got a whole bunch of protections.

In the US, common law marriage is not actually common. It's

common law marriage in the USA is a legally recognized union between partners who live together

and tend to be married and hold the selves out as spouses without a formal ceremony or license.

Only a few states still recognize this and once establish illegal divorces required to end

the relationship. Interesting. They don't say which states. Uh, okay. No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Um, only a few states still recognize this. That's what, that's what her source success. Yeah,

that, that doesn't make sense. Let me just take a look at thing. What's going on here.

If you continue, I'm going to just. All right. I'm going to continue while you look it up. Yeah,

I don't trust by any clairs as far as I could throw her, which is based on what I'm looking at,

not very far. Did it regurgitate in the messages, which he has fed her? It does seem more risky for me,

but I don't feel like I'm at risk. She feels safe with him. She doesn't feel at risk. Well,

of course you don't feel at risk right now because you're attractive. You're carrying his baby.

You're still carrying on his legacy and things are working fine. You're not fighting back. He's able

to like cheat on you behind your back or like bring woman home or do whatever the hell he wants to do.

He, that's interesting. See, see the framing again? He says cheat on you behind your back. But

if she knows that he could bring a woman home, which she says she knows, and she's bisexual,

then he's not doing anything behind her back. Like, there's nothing that suggests he's being in

fact, Louis Thoreau brings it up to her. He's like, well, what do you think about the, you know,

him bringing women home? And she's like, yeah, it's fine. I mean, like I said, it's not my cup of tea,

but she's not being deceived. That's the one thing you can say with some certainty. You know,

can't she cheat on him behind his back? Yes, she could. Sure. What?

Yeah. Of course, she could cheat on him behind his back. She's, I guess,

Byrony thinks that women have no ability, like they literally do not exist as people with

violation when Byrony Claire refuses to acknowledge that. Are these people, is Justin Waller in Texas?

I think that, like, he has a place in Miami, Florida, and he has a place in Louisiana, I believe.

So I don't know about Texas. Our commonly listed is fully recognizing common law marriage,

Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, and the District of Columbia.

Okay. Okay. Well, again, limited recognition. So this is interesting. So

common law was recognized in the past, and now it's not.

Okay, interesting. Yeah. All right, keep going.

Well, I was going to say to another thing that Byrony's doing. This is obvious. Anyways,

is that she says, well, he can just up and leave. And it's, it's funny because it presumes that

a man who is a father to children would just be able to completely disconnect and go away.

And it reminds me of, yeah, of course, she just assumes he could just do that. Look, I don't

know the guy, but I know that fathers are particularly protective of their children. And if you

act like that's not that's completely optional, it's kind of ridiculous. I think that in general,

especially if they've committed some time to it, right? I'm not saying there's no such thing as a dead

be dead, but I don't think it's as common as people want you to believe it is. I think a lot of

in many cases, men are excluded from being involved with their children. And it was there was

something that happened. I saw on X. I don't have the video, but I can probably look for it if you

guys want to see it. Where they were asking men, it was sort of like a dating show thing. I think

they were asking the male participants questions about to like sort of judge their character.

And one of the questions was, if there was a fire at your house, I think it was a fire,

and your wife and children were in the fire, but you could only rescue one of them. So it was

basically the, you know, trolley cart dilemma, which one would you rescue? And the men all

said they're children, and the women were pissed. And but the men were like, I would save the

children. And like, because they're like, I have to choose one. I'm going to pick the one that's

the most vulnerable. I'm going to save the kids. I'm going to save my kids first, right? And of course,

it was, I think they were trying to paint it as a terrible thing, but I was like, no, that's,

that makes sense. Like can't the woman save herself? Couldn't she also be trying to save some kids?

But the women were upset. Of course, they didn't. None of the people involved in this conversation

actually had children. They were like, you know, young adults looking at date and stuff,

but it sort of like showed you like, you know, it was like a peek into, I guess, the way that men see

the world in terms of the vulnerable and those in need of their sacrifice.

Well, did they ask the women? No, no, no, this was a quiet, it was just a little clip,

and it was only, it was directed only at the men. It was a question for the men because it was

just that was what that was the setup. Would you save the men? Was supposed to kids? Probably

wouldn't save anything, right? I have no idea. I have no idea. No, but this is like a, okay.

All right, that's it. I'm going to spur. All right. So this is entirely predicted with like

fast-suppressant, which is again the male bonding hormone. Like this idea that men just walk

away from what they bond to is wrong. It's actually incredibly difficult for men on even a hormonal

level to do it. They're going to endocrine level because fast-suppressant is going to punish them

with agony if they do so. Like that's where all the mate guarding and the

like the desire for proximity comes from is that it's that you know there's good, it's going to,

you're going to be punished if you don't do it. So it's absurd to say that men are going to walk

away from their children or their bound targets. Like I mean the problem here is that what the way

that they're pursuing their lifestyle is probably going to weaken their bond. I don't know, maybe not.

There's a big, there's a few possibilities here that just based on what I have read in terms of

how these two individuals have arranged their relationship. And again, this relationship wouldn't

exist traditionally. So I don't know what the hell Byrony Claire is thinking about here. This is

not a traditional relationship. This man wouldn't be accepted in polite society if he was in any other

time period aside from that time period directly proceeding feminist sexual revolution. So he

exists in a feminist society. He only exists in a feminist society. So you're looking at something

that only exists in a feminist society that is entirely constructed by the destruction of the

feminist destruction of the family, the feminist destruction of the sexual marketplace value

of the average men. This guy doesn't exist outside of that. You know, outside of this particular

greenhouse, he would not exist. That feminist constructed, he would not exist. All right, but there's

certain things that are going on in his relationship that would concern me that have nothing to do with

the fact that she's a housewife having kids or left her her job or lives in a lovely mansion.

And also she is protected. If he tries to walk away, the state will make him pay child support.

Are you kidding? And that child support, if he's making millions that child could support could be,

it could be many multiples of an X-ray technicians salary a year. So she's sad. She's risking very

little in all of this. Let's be honest, right? And in terms of how they've set up their bonds,

there are some serious potential risks that have nothing to do with the feminist conversation.

But there are definitely there. For example, for her, if she actually genuinely has an attachment

to him, not just his ability to pull other women, right? She might find that he ends up with the

woman who says, no, you have to choose. I'm not sharing you with anyone. And she will find that

that woman is her, is something that she will have difficulty competing with. Because this is

something that nobody talks about. It's seen in polygamous societies. I've seen it among swinging

like the testimony. I'm not, I'm not in that environment. I just have read some testimony.

Is that the woman who fights for the man is the one he feels most bonded to. So her own

you know, like do whatever you want. Play the field. Maybe undermining his sense that she actually

wants him in that way. So this is why the Christians do. They do what they do, you know?

It's because they're these pitfalls that you end up in when you engage in this kind of free love

situation or like poly or what is it one sided monogamy, whatever this is? Like she should really

be careful. Because if in the course of his trial, trail, his explorations and his travels,

he finds a woman who says, no, I'm not sharing. She might end up at the door because he's constructed

in such a way that he's going to respond to that. And you see this over and over again.

Like with polyguiness societies, with a man who is in a relationship with multiple women,

and is in a society that manages the fallout of that because it's not easy. These relationships

are incredibly difficult. And they have all kinds of social support for them. And expectations

like in Islam, you have to have four houses that are equal between your wives. They have to get

the same amount of money. You have to spend the same amount of time with them, right? You don't

get to just free ball. And there's other kinds of restrictions in other societies just to try to

prevent the jealousy, which is the big, continuous problem. But the other problem with the jealousy,

which they don't talk about, is the jealous wife is going to be the one the husband thinks actually

gives a crap about him. And the reason why is because to her, she is, he is a man that her man

not a function. So to every other wife, he fulfills a function. To her, she's actually, he is actually

her man. And he's going to feel the biggest bond to that woman. And that's something I've seen

again in the swinger, swinger context. So an example I'm thinking of is updike. John updike,

you heard of him? No. It's like they used to have like in the 60s, the all the writing scene would

have like swingers. And he had a wife. I don't remember where they were in like a really famous

liberal kind of community where everybody was doing it. They were like swapping partners, right?

And he had a wife who was completely okay with it. He's like, you can have wherever you want.

No. And then he ended up with a woman who said, no, it's me or her. I'm not sharing you.

Guess who he ended up choosing? He chose the woman who told him he had to stop and wouldn't share

him. And she was actually sort of psychotically controlling. She wouldn't even share him with his

kids, which was crazy. But this is something that nobody talks about. And that's one of the

pitfalls of this guy's relationship. It's a pitfall of all kinds of all of the weird

trying of arrangements that people try to get into to heal the wounds that they had as children

in the worst way possible. It's again, it's something that, you know,

Briarney is incapable of doing because she like she has no sympathy for this guy. So like all

the stuff in the and look, there was a throw to his credit did put that Justin Waller had

some abuse in his history. He didn't like dig anything at all because he's a piece of shit,

but he didn't touch on it. And Briarney's not going to touch on it at all. This is like the flip

side of the, you know, the the piling on of lies to like drive home a message is the removal of

truths to like, you know, to further cement the message. So she doesn't bring up that this Justin

Waller was abused by his mother doesn't come up at all. All right. So anyway,

okay, no, I'm combined with all of the perks of a married life. Of course, he's fine with things

for now, whilst you're still hot. I have it all truly. You don't even understand men, Briarney.

Why are the fuck are you married to one if you hate them so much?

She actually mentions her husband in this. Oh, does she? What did she say about him?

Well, let's keep going. No, if the relationship ended, it doesn't concern him at all.

We said it tomorrow, me and you. Oh, I would still look at it as successful. Have beautiful children,

beautiful memories. Notice who he completely misses out in all of this woman that he loves.

It's all about him and how he's addressing her. Are you dipshit?

Like, he's saying that directly to her. How would you forget?

She is included by his jet. Who the hell consumes this crap? How does she get so?

About 200,000 women. I don't even know what to say. He said it to her, Briarney.

If he said I have a beautiful wife, he would actually be excluding her.

He was saying it directly to her, Briarney. You didn't notice that?

No concern for his kids or her well-being, because he was asked if it ended tomorrow, what he would

feel. Anyway, whatever. Let's keep going.

Wonderful years. He is always then monitoring, watching, anytime that Louis is trying to talk to her.

She's not allowed to say anything without his approval. We have lanes. My lane is

changing diapers, cooking and cleaning, and his lane is working and providing we don't cross

into each other's lane. First one, hello, Bob. That's like a bicycle lane versus

a six lane highway there. My lane is kids or just taking care of the kids.

How many women would be just fine with that arrangement? I think it's a lot. This is the

feminist conundrum. Briarney has to confront. This is something we said for a long time.

Whenever they talk about problems with men, whatever it is. For example, when they talk about

toxic masculinity, the men need to be able to show their emotions and cry. Basically, be more

like women is what they're saying, because masculinity is the problem. But they never say,

well, do women want that? When regular women are just honest about their desires, and they just

say this woman that she's talking about, where she's like, yeah, we stay in our lane. I raise

the kids. I stay at home. I cook and I clean. He basically does the work and pays for everything.

I'm fine with that. That's her saying, this is what I want as a woman. And Briarney is like,

you're not supposed to want that. That's why she's bothered. It's just why aren't men crying

more and being more like women. And men are like, well, because if we do, women won't be attracted

to us. And she's like, no, no, that's not true. But it is true. Because women do buy and large,

love it or hate it. They don't want to see weakness in men. Because it makes them feel unsafe.

And I know that it's not a good thing. I think that women could use a lesson in understanding

that men are human beings, and they feel pain. And sometimes they have to express that. But

this is the situation that feminism is created. This is what we live in now.

Well, I mean, it's like, okay, let me put it this way. This woman has an extra day waking

day of time compared to anybody else in anywhere. She has more time in the day compared to working

women, compared to women who work and also our wives and mothers enough to take care of. She has

more time in the day compared to working men, husbands or single. She has an extra day of time

irony in the week, basically. Everybody else gets six days, she gets seven. Or everyone else

gets eight, gets seven days, she gets eight. An extra day of her life that she can do with whatever

way. And she probably actually gets an extra day and a half. Because unlike other stay-at-home

mothers, moms, you said that she does cooking and cleaning. I highly doubt it.

She probably doesn't, she probably doesn't do cooking and cleaning. At the very least,

she doesn't do cleaning. And if she's not somebody who enjoys cooking, she probably doesn't do

cooking either. Because they can afford, they can afford someone to make their meals for them,

they can afford someone to do cleaning, tell they can probably afford childcare. So she probably

is not even doing the same amount of work as the average stay-at-home mother who herself gets an

extra day compared to every other person on the planet. We're supposed to think of stay-at-home

mothers as being so oppressed. Look at them with their eighth day that nobody else gets.

She probably has an eighth, an ninth, and a tenth day that nobody else gets. This woman

and Byrony is trying to make us look at her and pity her. Why are you doing that Byrony?

Why? I don't pity her. I envy her three extra days, a week.

Why can't I do with that? Yeah, like, seriously.

All right, let's keep going. I think she's about to bring her for a husband.

Goodness, all of these women are being abused. He also said that these men very clearly have

daddy issues and needs to go get spread. Oh yeah, there it is. So she's like saying that she

washed it with her husband. Yeah, her dad, yeah, let's keep going. Oh my goodness, all of these

women are being abused. He also said that these men very clearly have daddy issues and need to

go get some daddy issues. Oh, but Byrony, why are you appealing to the world? Why are you appealing

to your husband as an authority? Yeah, right. Yeah, like she's right here. She's appealing to

her husband as an authority on this issue. I think she thinks that it will convince women,

oh, even the men recognize the problem. Even my husband said these guys clearly have daddy

issues. No, they probably have mommy issues if anything. You don't want to see that, though.

What is it? H.S. Tigitake's father was excluded from his life and his mother likely turned his

father against him. But I know that his father was like a professional rugby player or something.

Justin Waller talked about how his mom set their house on fire twice and would beat his father

and that his father wasn't in the picture. And she's just going to be like, oh yeah, they must

have daddy issues. Like this is what I mean when I say she's piling lies on top of lies. Thoreau

glosses over it and says, well, these boys clearly had problems from youth and that's what they're

dealing with. They have trauma. He doesn't go into specifics. But anyone who's paying attention

that has like two brain cells so rough together can be like, oh, it's because the mom was piece of

shit. It's because the mom was like, like did not want either didn't want the father involved or

was actually abusive to the family. And yes, yes, guys, these women exist. They do exist. They know

it's crazy. But there is such a thing as an abusive mother. That's a real thing. And we

covered it on the show. Like, did you see Alison? Did you see the news? There were two things.

One was the Bachelorette. This Bachelorette contestant that ended up getting the show cancelled

because a video leaked of her like abusing her ex husband. She was going to be on the Bachelorette

as a woman that men were all going to compete to get. And she was throwing chairs at a guy. And

like, I think hit her baby. And in this video that leaked, you couldn't really see it. But you

heard a baby crying after like the sound of something hitting something. And then there was this

actor, Jerry O'Connell was on Bill Marr and he was telling the story of how his wife and his

two daughters beat him because the 2024 election didn't go the way they wanted it to.

And he was like, I don't know if I want to talk about this right now because I might lose

my family. He didn't want to talk about it. Like, this is what I'm saying. She was obvious.

They were obviously the abusing party. But the man was like, I don't know if I should talk about

this because I could get in trouble. It's like, dude, you are in trouble. You know, so, but

Bryony is just going to act like they have daddy issues. Like the pattern is just. Yeah. Why do they

have daddy issues, Bryony? They're all mentioned that because they don't have fathers. Why don't

they have fathers? Most likely because the one person who has the greatest amount of control over

the relationship between a man and his children decided that she didn't want that relationship

to occur. And who is that? The mother of the children. So honestly, all daddy issues are really

mommy issues, Bryony. For the most part. Plus, I think her husband probably only said that,

like Bryony's husband, Ollie only said those things because he's also afraid of her.

And I wouldn't be surprised because I'd be terrified. I would be asking myself, why did I marry

this person? To be honest. But anyway, a digital artist says she definitely hit the baby. Yeah,

that's what it looks like, but we don't know if we're sure. Do we? Which? Oh, yeah,

heavily agree with. When he interviews Myron from Fresh and Fit, one of the most popular podcasts

in the world, which is doing so much damage. I don't think we should vote. Also, I don't think we

should be in the military or in law enforcement. I'm the dictator. You are the subordinate.

When I was trying to interview his girlfriend, Angie, who'd been with him for two years.

I do what I want to do. She's loyal to me, some inogamists on her and open on my end.

She packs my incontinence when I travel. That's how real it is.

And he's also in a one-sided monogamous relationship. She's monogamous.

Let's pronounce monogamous, not monogamous. You wanted to say magnanimous.

Well, I don't know if we're going to get into all of it, but maybe I'll just show you guys

that Myron made a video called Exposing Lies of the Netflix documentary Inside the Manusphere.

And it's about 53 minutes where he shows you every clip because he recorded the entire

all the visits. I think there were three visits and he recorded the second and third one,

but he recorded part of the first one as well. He basically shows that his girlfriend, Angela,

I think her name was, was not at all in the way that they framed it in the documentary.

So, I mean, I don't, but Brywardy Claire doesn't care about that. Even though Brywardy's video,

let me see, when did this come out? This came out seven days ago,

and Myron Gaines's video came out yesterday. So it's pretty new. I don't expect that Brywardy's

going to watch this, hurt his video and make a retraction because she's already done what she

set out to do. But I just want to point out that Myron recorded everything and his context changes

that whole segment like completely. Yep. So I don't even know if we need to go through Byrony's

statements about this particular segment considering. No, yeah, it's all bullshit. Let me see.

I think that's all I had for the Byrony Claire video because it's not just about the

manosphere stuff. So it's, you know, she's bringing it other things. I don't know if Richard

wanted us to go through the whole thing, but I think we're good. Do you want it? Do you have

another video? I do have another video. I want to show you guys another. I don't find the,

I don't find the fresh and fit part that like there's nothing there.

No, there's nothing, nothing in any of this. Like if these women are okay with this shit,

then whatever, right, it's, it's their life. But they're not supposed to, they're not supposed to

be okay with this. Allison, that's really what this comes down to. Like Brywardy is like, how are

you okay with this? Okay, so I have another video from a channel called, wait, where is it?

Teresa, who is also a feminist, and she made a video called Louis, Louis Thoreau exposed the

manosphere's favorite abuse tactic. And we're going to look at some of that. So what is the abuse

tactic? Let me show you all her setup. I don't want to play the whole, it's like a half an hour.

We don't need to do that. But she, this is the, the, the YouTuber in question.

Teresa, now Richard Beer is going to be giving us Teresa videos to reply to, I think.

And she's going to explain what the abuse tactic is. Jimmy Savile, his mother steps in and a key,

wait, let me go back a little bit more. I'm sorry. No, wait a minute, where's the, I'm sorry,

I got to find the time code 214 is what they said. So maybe it's like right here.

He turns away from Louis and the documentary crew entirely and start speaking directly into his

live stream camera. This is what I believe. And I don't need to add anything.

What you just watched is a technique, a technique that's been studied since 1997.

It has a clinical name. And once I show it to you, you're going to, wait, wait, my dear.

She's going to say, she's, she's going to tell you she's setting it up. That was her saying.

There's no technique. If it's an ongoing, okay, fair enough. No, no, she's going to, she's setting it up.

Okay. And every podcast, bro, who gets challenged. Okay. Now, let me just point out.

She's, she's setting it up and she's saying, this is a technique. She's going to tell us what it is.

That it's only used by the enemy. This is what the enemy uses podcast, bro's,

manosphere, right? So notice, she uses the term podcast, bro, which could mean anything.

But she's basically saying Joe Rogan types. I want to show you all how big the umbrella of the

manosphere gets with this woman. That's why I thought this video was very fascinating.

Or confronted because they all do the same thing. It's not a communication style. It's an abuse

tactic and it is very common among manosphere creators and misogynists generally because at their

core, men in the manosphere are fundamentally abusive men and Lewis Thoreau and his crew caught

it on camera from two angles simultaneously. Before we get started, you know what to do. Love

or hate like and share because the algorithm does not care. Let me tell you exactly what happened

in that room. The clinical term for what HS did in that clip is Darvo. Some of you may have heard

of this. It stands for deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. Okay, wait a second. So she's

basically mischaracterizing what she did. Okay, you know, you even understand what this term means,

lady? Okay, he's going because I'm going to we're going to walk. I'm pretty sure we're going to walk

through this and it's going to be absolute nonsense. Yeah, we're ready ready to learn what Darvo is.

You guys have ever heard of Darvo. We've talked about this channel a lot, but yeah, let's let's find

out. That was coined by Jennifer Freide, a professor of psychology at the University of Oregon.

And we have to give you seven peer reviews. What? Do we have to go through. Okay, fun. Let's keep

do we have to go through the etymology, the the history of the time? Well, maybe she's going to

distort it a little bit. Let's find out. She knows what it actually means paper entitled violations

of power, adaptive blindness and betrayal, trauma theory, published in the journal of feminism

and psychology. Freide. So Darvo came out of feminism as a concept. Well, of course,

framework while studying how sexual offenders respond when they're confronted with accusations.

She kept seeing how sexual offenders responded when they're held accountable and that they all

did the same thing. They all responded in the same way. And she called it Darvo. You know,

where I first heard of the term was Tara. Dr. Tara. Way back when. Tara Paul Matier.

Yeah, Tara Paul Matier. She's the woman who coined.

Only badgers, isn't she? Yep. Yes, she is. Okay, let's keep going. All right, let's keep going.

Where is held accountable for their harmful behavior? They followed this predictable sequence.

First, they deny the accusation. Then they attack the person raising the issue.

And then finally, they reverse the narrative entirely, presenting themselves as the victim

and the accuser as the offender. That's the sequence every time. Now, the offender doesn't

always deny what they did by saying, oh, no, no, that didn't. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

That is also what someone would do if they're innocent, lady.

And if they wanted to say, no, you are falsely accusing me. Yeah, it's almost like

Darvo is kind of a nonsense thing to say anyway, because if I was truly innocent of something,

and I said, no, you're accusing me falsely of something. And now I am, I am a victim of

what did Johnny Depp do when I've ever heard exactly, right? Counter-sue, is that Darvo?

Is that Darvo, lady? I probably, in her terms, yes. Okay, let's keep going.

All right. They do it by just making their feelings about being accused bigger than the fact of

what they're actually being accused of. That's when we, that's when it goes to evidence.

Right? Evidence. That's when evidence becomes critical.

Did the accusation actually happen? Like, honestly, why?

There's such a fricking flaw in this thinking. Literally, what she's saying is women should be

able to accuse, and the only response to four men is to say, yes, or just to submit to whatever

they've been accused of. Are you moving forward for some reason? Yeah, I thought, because she kind

of like goes into the Darvo thing for a while. I thought I would jump to her first. Do you want to hear

more of this or do you want me to jump? Let's see if she gets any further away from what I'm hearing

right now. All right. Change the subject, which is what HS did. Then they attacked the person who

was confronting them, their credibility, their motives, their character, and then they reverse the

role. No, that's there. The one that's victimized. Wait, wait, wait, wait, when did HMS Tiki Taki even say

that he was a victim? He didn't. The, okay, lady, what you're doing is you're taking HMS Tiki Taki

proving Therose duplicity, and you are looking at that and saying, oh my God, he proved Therose duplicity,

but then that would make him the victim. Therefore, Tiki Taki has Darvote me into thinking he was

the victim. No, no, you buffoon. You looked at the evidence and concluded that because the evidence

told you that's what happened. Did you see what she just did? Okay, it's like she goes into

a room. I don't know. And the evidence points to something has happened. All right, she looks at the

evidence that of her own, like what Tiki Taki showed, the evidence that he demonstrated what Therose

was doing. She looks at the evidence and says, oh, Therose is a lying scumbag. Well, that must be

because Tiki Taki Darvote me into thinking that Therose is a lying scumbag. Do you have any control

over your brain, lady? Yeah. Is your brain just rattling in your head? Occasionally leaks out onto

your pillow and you have to put it back in in a syringe. Do you have any relationship to your brain?

Does any of the people watching this woman have a relationship to their brains?

Oh, okay. All right. Suddenly the person who asked the very reasonable question,

oh, no, they're the aggressor. Frey didn't develop. What was the reasonable question?

Internet person. Why are doing you admit your guilty of rape or something? Because remember,

it was a feminist. Darvote was created by a feminist psychologist that was basically involved with the

criminology of like male abusers. And so when men would deny that they did anything, she would be

like that starvo, which means you just haven't admitted to the truth yet.

Let's keep going. All right, all right.

So personalities, she developed it to describe how predators avoid accountability.

Remember that research over the last decade has shown just how effective this tactic can be.

In a 2017 study by Harsie, Zubrigan, and Frey, researchers found that perpetrators

frequently used Darvote when confronted about their harmful behavior. Women are disproportionately

exposed to this abuse technique and exposure to all that are the psychological effect.

So women are uniquely victims of Darvote for some reason? Well, women are uniquely victims of

everything. Yes, yes. Like that, that's their conclusion to everything. Like, is there is there any

situation where men are uniquely victims of something? Anything. This woman would say no,

unless it was something really obvious like prostate cancer, and even then she probably has a

tape. Okay, let's keep going. We're often someone encountered Darvote, the more likely they were to

begin blaming themselves for what happened to them. During the interaction, the focus shifts away

from the wrongdoing and towards the feelings of the perpetrator. A later study by Harsie and

Frey in 2020 examined what happens when out. Let me just, she just like, okay, let me just

to where she basically, she's going to give a couple of examples of Darvowing in the manus fear

and various, let's say, related, well, the manus fear, but her definition of the manus fear,

which I think is the feminist definition, if you were to ask them who counts, and it's going to be

a lot bigger than just the guys that were in that throw video. So first, she's going to, I think

she's going to go after H.S.'s mom in this. Like, obviously, you've got a couple of criminal cases,

right? Oh, look, this is the sweatshirt. He starts handbrake. Honestly, this is the stuff that

pisses me off. So Louis Thoreau is chatting with H.S. and he does what journalists do. He raises

the criminal record. You know, how do you feel about the fact that you have charges pending? Does that

affect your behavior, blah, blah? H.S. crashed a car in Surrey in March of 2024 and then fled police

for nearly a year before he was finally arrested in October 2025 after this interview with Thoreau

for the documentary. He was charged with failing to stop after an accident, driving while using

a cell phone and driving without insurance. Those are facts. Documented adjudicated facts. There

was a warrant out for his arrest. He was on the run from the cops at the time of this interview.

This is verifiable information. Now, um, but not relevant to the inside of the manus fear

thing. It was Thoreau was trying to figure out a way to attack H.S. his character. I mean,

you know, I'm not, I'm saying, I'm not saying I agree with what he did, but, you know, he's like

23. Like, I don't know, like, does it seem like a weird thing for a young guy to get into?

Um, curious. Yeah, go ahead. Um, I'm curious if he spent any time in jail.

He did, he did after. I think he wasn't, he was on probation or something or

but yes, he did, he did face his acute, uh, he did face justice. At least it was, it was, uh,

after the documentary was released or went, you know, like somebody between the time

that was recorded and it came out that happened. So he received a one year suspended prison sentence

instead. Um, okay. So this is, he really, he received a one year suspended prison sentence,

which means at most there was property damage. Yeah. Um, yeah, this is a non-issue and it is

poisoning the well, especially when we're talking about the manus fear. So what are the values

of the manus fear? What are they? What do they want to say? So what is he supposed to say to that?

Yeah, I got, I, uh, got into this altercation. I don't know. Rose just trying to, I mean,

I think that H.S. knew, like, I'm not saying the kids are genius, but I think he knew

what the role was doing. He was looking for something to tarnish his character. It was like, oh,

don't you have this? It was like with the other guys. He was like, aren't you like in an open

relationship and they would bring us girlfriend. He like, do you know this guy's fucking other

women? Like, that's just his technique of how do I make this guy look bad? And H.S. was like, no,

that's, that's twat shit. As he said it, that's twat shit. Um, and it is just locked for alluding.

So he just got the sentence for alluding the police. All right. Well, um, apparently he has served

his time according to the British justice system. And what are we supposed to make? What,

what relevance does this have at this point? Okay, let's keep going. Sounds like Darbo Allison.

Just does. He doesn't calmly say, yes, that happened. Here's my side of the story. Or he doesn't say,

you know, I prefer not to talk about that. He doesn't engage with the question at all. What he does.

Sometimes you don't. Yeah. What is the first word in Darvo, lady? It's deny. Right now,

we are off script. You are now giving me evidence that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Did he deny it? No, he didn't deny it. What did he do? He said, you are doing this because you

want to poison the well. You don't want to talk about issues. You don't want to talk about what I do.

You just want to paint me in a certain way. Is he wrong? No. Okay, let's keep going. But right here,

the first word is deny. And what is the first thing he does? He doesn't do it denying.

The temperature in the room shifts suddenly the conversation is no longer. Why did you have a thermometer

in the room? The temperature, the room. It's the it's the feminist. It's the feminist logic. It's her

telepathy. She's reading the minds of these people. It's about how Harrison Sullivan feels about

being asked. No, no, it's not about that. It's about what the row is doing by bringing it up.

It is a traffic violation. Yeah, Sherry shouldn't have deleted the police, but he got a year of

probation, which means the UK government doesn't give him much as much of a fuck about this. So what

relevance does it have to any of this aside from throwing it out there to poison the well?

He's saying this is why you're saying bringing this up. That's not nothing to do with Darvo.

She doesn't understand the term. And let me guess. This is like a couple hundred thousand women

who are also bubble headed along to this. Oh, yes, that's what Darvo is. That's what Darvo is. It's one of the nine thousand.

It's gotten 200,000 views. Yeah, I figured as much. It's when a man contradicts me or a man says this is why you're saying that.

No, Darvo is specific. And we've already missed Denai. Does he actually do anything in the Darvo list?

I'm going to jump ahead to his mom. No, he doesn't.

The attack undermines itself, but only if you know the story. Only if you know all of the history.

God, we have the anti-Semitic pivot. Here comes the story.

What a bunch of fucking bullshit. There are specific things that have to happen for it to be Darvo.

You already showed that it isn't Denai didn't happen.

And according to Jonathan or Sir Brian neither did any other. The A didn't happen. The A didn't happen.

The V didn't happen. The O didn't happen. What part of Darvo was in that?

And now you're saying, oh, well, if you see the history of Darvo, what?

The history of Darvo does not relate to the fact that it didn't apply to what he did.

And you only can see this if you're educated. Educate yourself. Like

Yep. This is where it gets interesting. Sullivan's mother Elaine enters the conversation

and she says something that sounds on the surface like a reasonable critique. You're just here to make

money off of my son. If you don't agree with what Harrison's doing, then why are you making money

off of it on a program by publicizing it? You're doing it because you think he's a controversial

character so you're making money off the back of it. And that's why and that's all your programs are.

Now I want to be honest with you. The ethics of documentary filmmaking, that's a real conversation.

Filmmakers do profit from their stuff. Oh, you want to.

I want to see how she, I want to see how she recovers from this.

Okay. Yeah. This is a thing that we should be talking about because it's about

capitalism. Intellectual. Okay, but I just want to put something out here. I just want to put

us on the other specific thing that his, his, his, his mother said is that he is calling

tiki-taki out for using controversy to get attention and cloud and money.

Which is exactly what the role is doing. Yes.

And now she has to contend with the bare truth of that.

Right. And that's, that is not Darvo. That is a claim of hypocrisy.

So once again, this has nothing to do with Darvo. And of course, she's up against another woman.

So how is she going to spend the threat narrative around that?

That's actually, that's actually intrigues me. I wonder, I wonder what her tactics will be here.

Because it's more difficult, you know, with, with with HMS tiki-taki, all she has to do is just

smet spread the smear of, of rape culture on him. And then he's done for. But what about his

mother? What's she going to do? What's she going to do to undermine what his mother said?

Let's hear. All right. Questioning that power dynamic. I'm not going to dismiss that whole

sale. But here's where you have to think critically. The premise of Elaine's accusation requires you

to believe that Lewis Thoreau and Harrison Sullivan are on equal footing, that they're both making

money off of each other in a symmetrical way. No, no, no, no, no, no. They are not both making money

off of each other in a symmetrical way. Thoreau has an entire institution behind him.

Tiki-taki just has his freaking live stream. Thoreau's on Netflix. Tiki-taki's on kick.

And the other thing is it doesn't matter. Because the other thing is that the controversy,

somebody is profiting off of a controversy, which is exactly what Thoreau is doing.

So now you are moving, you are moving this into another frame because you feel like you're going to

win in that frame. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that's not going to happen for you. Of

course, it's going to happen for the idiot to watch you. But let's see. Now that she's moved

this into another frame of asymmetry, let's see what she has to say. All right.

Not. It's like comparing apples and cruise missiles. Lewis Thoreau is a salaried documentary

filmmaker working for the BBC and Netflix. I mean, let's be real. Unless you're Michael Moore or

maybe Ken Burns, there's not a lot of money in being a documentarian. There's not a lot of

what? What? No. Wait, Thoreau. Thoreau, who works for Netflix and the BBC, is actually in the

oppressed position. Salary. He's not salaried. I mean, maybe. I don't know how it works, but what's

the salary though? Just because you call it a salary doesn't mean it's not like a million dollars

a week or something like, what's the salary? Dude, are you kidding me? That's a, that's a, that's

an insane claim right there. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Do you have working for

the BBC means he gets 50% of my salary? Yeah, you get taxpayer dollars with for that. So anyway,

what he produces will be edited, back checked, reviewed, and released months later, like a long

there. Why is there a problem? Why is there a problem with Tiki Taki putting it up on a stream?

Yeah, right. Okay.

Oh, then is simultaneously live streaming this exact confrontation to his subscribers in real time

and directly monetized? He's the one making money off of Lewis, not the other way around. She's

framing a BB. Oh, for the love of God. It's not about the money. It's about using the controversy.

Well, first of all, he is using the controversy to get money, even if it's salaried,

because he's doing work for the, the freaking establishment.

So all right, let's go to another example. Let her finish this. Oh, I already went back. I'm

sorry. It's like right here somewhere. Okay. He has with his subscribers. He is modeling for

thousands, maybe millions of young men exactly how to deflect accountability. Deny the facts. Wait,

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's go back. Go back, because this is, I need to go through this.

Okay. Oh, by the Jews or Savile. That line. Okay, keep going back. Keep going back.

Right right here. Yeah, back to what even before she finishes her sentence, but the most, I know,

I need to hear the whole thing, the whole thing that she's at the whole construction of how she is

making it. So because the thing is that we need to go back to where this started. This started with

Tiki Taki's mom, right? And you notice now, we are moving. First of all, she completely deflects

the actual original context, which was Tiki Taki's mom calling out the row. Yeah. And then she moves

into explaining why the row and Tiki Taki are not the same. No, she moves it into this asymmetry

framework. And then she's trying to say that the row has is making less money than Tiki Taki.

Now see how we've just moved layers and layers away from the actual event. So let's hear

the next layer after the from their subjects. There is a legitimate intellectual tradition of questioning

that power dynamic. I'm not going to dismiss that wholesale, but here's where you have to think

critically. The premise of Elaine's accusation requires you to believe you are dismissing it

and Harrison Sullivan are on what? You are dismissing it. You're dismissing. Yeah, okay, it requires

you to believe. No, it doesn't require that. It requires you to believe that their motives are

similar. We don't have to look at who is making more money. We're just looking at who is get which

of the two is getting paid to monetize controversy. And the answer is both both of them. So she's

she's introducing this new variable to try to explain how these two people are different. And we

are far from HMS's Tiki Taki's mom at this point. So keep going with this or jump on equal footing

that they're both making money off of each other in a symmetrical way. They're not. It's like

comparing apples and cruise missiles. Louis Thoreau is a salaried document. Yeah, cruise apples

are something that are sold by probably in some cases small business owners cruise missiles

are made by the establishment like Thoreau's documentary. Okay, keep going.

For the BBC and Netflix, I mean, let's be real. Unless you're Michael Moore or maybe Ken Burns,

there's not a lot of money in being a documentarian. Okay, here we go. Louis Thoreau, you didn't even

look this up. Did you? Louis Thoreau exact salary is not publicly confirmed, but recent reporting

puts his company's earning at about 2.9 million for the year pounds. Yeah. While other summaries

estimate his annual income around 0.4 million, well, if his annual income is estimated at 0.4 million,

then he had a really banner year this year, I guess, and his net worth around 3 million to 6 million.

That's pounds. Okay, so that's his company earnings.

He's making a fair, he's banking off of his shit slinging.

All right, let's, or at least his company is. We don't know what kind of salary he draws from

his company. Yeah. Okay. Okay, trust me. What he produces will be edited, backcheck,

reviewed, and released months later, like a long time. It doesn't need to be fact checked.

It won't be fact checked. Are you kidding me? They already released it. It's already full of lies.

It's not going to be fact checked. It was edited for sure.

Essentially where we got, we went, we had his mother call it out and say Thoreau is using

controversy to make money, which he's doing. And that's what his company is doing. And his company

made 2.9 million, at least in one year, according to my sources. And HMS Tiki Taki is also using

controversy to make money and get clout. So that's the equivalence. And what she was doing was

she was pointing out Thoreau's self-righteousness about the whole situation. Now what this woman

has done is she's moved it into this asymmetry framing. She has pre-excluded the analysis

that a documentarian has power over what he is the subject of his documentary, which is true.

There's a whole discussion about that because he is the one who controls the editing process,

except in this instance. Now the reason why HMS Tiki Taki had the opportunity to clout back

was because he was streaming. And he had a whole bunch of people showing what Thoreau then edited

to be deceitful. But she's not any of this. We're going to go for the asymmetry in the income,

which doesn't look like it's that substantial, according to what I've found. And now we're going to

the asymmetry in the truth or something. Yeah. Okay. So this is her. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought

you were letting me. No, no, go ahead. No, go ahead. Okay. He's lead live streaming this exact

confrontation to his subscribers in real time and directly monetized. He's the one making money off

of Lewis. Not the other one. What do you think? What? What? Okay. So he's streaming it directly

because he's showing what's actually happening in real time unedited. Yeah. That's it.

Maybe he's making money off of it, but the point is that he's showing it in real time unedited and

Thoreau is going to make money off of the edited version in which he takes his documentary subject

and paints them in the worst light possible, which is already proven. Hey, continue. All right.

BBC filmmaker as an exploiter while her son broadcasts the conversation live. No, no, no, that's not

that. Oh, this is Darvo. What she's doing? Yeah, she's demonstrating Darvo. That is not what she did,

madam. You are now saying Thoreau is the victim of what Thoreau was doing. Thoreau is the one

who was using moral condemnation to claim that Tiki Taki was some kind of reprobate. His mother

said, yeah, but you're doing the same thing. Therefore, your self-righteousness in this matter

is misplaced. And now she's saying, oh, no, it was her. She was the one who was self-righteously

pointing at Thoreau and saying he was an exploiter. He never, she never said that.

She just pointed out he was doing the same thing. Do you see how this isn't she? Okay. All right,

you know what Darvo is, my dear? You're using it. Okay. Let's go. All right. So, so I want to jump

ahead to some other example she gives. So here's one of Andrew Tate. It's a short one. We don't have

to say much, but I want you to see where what she's doing is she grabs HS Tiki Taki, who is like a

new guy and was in the atmosphere documentary. Andrew Tate was not in the manuscript documentary.

There are a few clips, but he never like spoke to Thoreau. So, it would be an interesting

documentary review and we could all just move on with our lives, but he's not an isolated case.

Darvo is basically the operating system for the entire manosphere. And for anybody here who wants

to do honest journalism, you need to ask yourselves why there is this witch hunt, why the matrix is so

desperate to try and convince the world I'm a bad person and put me in jail when I've clearly done

nothing wrong. It's been three solid years. I can't even find enough evidence to take me to

trial. Andrew Tate charged with human. That's not Darvo.

Saying that there's no evidence is not Darvo is saying that they've been trying to get a case

and they can't build one. So they're clearly going after an innocent man. You know what that? You

know what she's what Darvo means in her medium? You know what it means? Man defending himself.

Yeah, basically, or someone made me feel bad about the thing that I said, Darvo,

identifying an emotion as a set of criteria because she's misapplying that criteria constantly

while demonstrating that she is indeed Darvo-ing. Yes.

Like, I'm not damn. I need to, I'm not, I'm going to go hit my head against the wall.

Okay, great. What's his response? Deny the charges. The matrix is after me. Attack the institutions.

Journalists are corrupt. Reverse. He's being- I don't, he didn't. He didn't deny it.

Well, he said honest journalism. If you were doing honest journalism, you would like,

recognize it. I'm not like, there are no, there's no case against me, something like that.

She doesn't know what Darvo means. How the hell do you have a discussion with a person who

does not understand words? Yeah. What did you do with that? She's like, everybody's

Darvo-ing. I can't- I'm not Darvo-ing. Everybody else is Darvo-ing. You are making me a victim of

your Darvo-ing. I'm like- All right, all right. So, so that's Andrew Tate now. This is not

looked. This is not isolated. This is- I think this is pretty much the normal

like feminist viewpoint on the manosphere and also what I guess Darvo means. So, where do we go

from here? Like, okay, Andrew Tate's kind of an extreme figure. He's very well-known. The media

has basically made him into a giant like icon. I mean, this literally he was built by the media

and their coverage of him. So, who else could we throw into the Darvo net here?

That if you have family in a country that is at risk for people being injured from war,

you would get the family out to Romania where you are there safe. Why do you need to go there,

bro? Anyway, the respectable wing, and I talked about this before, the Scott Galloway,

the James Sexton's, Jordan Peterson's, the respectable wing. They still do- Wait, wait, wait,

Scott Galloway? Yes, Scott Galloway is in here as doing Darvo. Not kidding, but I want to get to it.

So, but let's keep going. This is what I'm saying. Like, what these people think is the manosphere.

It includes people who are like not just blue-pilled, but feminist. So anyway-

Not Galloway, so essentially- Yes, Scott Galloway, male feminists, male feminists, but the-

Yes, he's in the manosphere. Yes. What, can I make an observation here?

Okay. I think the manosphere just means men. Yes, men talking about men.

Men talking about anything, really? Yeah, sure, yeah. Yeah, gamers,

um, gave her gates to the manosphere. So, yeah.

Everything, you just- it's just men, guys. That's it. It's just your existence.

That's the problem they have. You exist, and they have- and they took it personally. Okay.

All right.

The quieter, but it's structurally identical. So that's my idea of the patriarchy, which is a system

of male dominance of society. Yeah, but that's not my sense of the patriarchy. So what's yours?

Well, in what sense is our society male dominated? This is a trope that people just accept.

Western society is a male-dominated patriarchy. It's like, no, it's not. That's not true.

This whole patriarchy thing, I think you have no idea how pernicious and dangerous it is.

Well, no, I don't. I really don't think so.

Throughout history, have fundamentally cooperated to push back against the absolute catastrophe of existence.

A terrible death rate, the probability of chronic starvation, early death, disease,

the difficulty of raising children with all the death that was associated with that.

And to look backwards in time and say, well, basically what happened was men took

the upper hand and persecuted women in this tyrannical patriarchy. It's absolutely dreadful

misreading of history. It's a terrible thing to teach young women, and it's a horrible thing to

inflict upon men. Deny that patriarchy exists. Okay.

So, if you, so you can only agree with you, that's it. Anything else is Darvo.

Yes.

Darvo is men disagreeing with women. But no, because Scott Galloway is in there, and

Scott Galloway would probably disagree with Jordan Peterson's reading of the damage of the concept

of patriarchy as feminists define it at least, I think. So, but now, yeah.

You've never even mentioned feminism. He's only talking about patriarchy, which is an observation,

not a group. And he's only criticizing that observation. And he is not making it while he's

saying it victimizes people. He's not saying it victimizes himself.

So, essentially, Darvo is anything this woman doesn't agree with and isn't feminist.

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to write, is this the, is this the final bit?

I want to show you the Scott Galloway bit, and then that's it. I just want to show you how,

how, because there's a lot of feminists reacting to the manosphere stuff. And they're not talking about

Darvo specifically, but they are doing this thing where they're taking the manosphere documentary

and using it as a tool to attack the entirety of male discourse online, whether it's the,

like, the manosphere guys like Andrew Tate, or Fresh and Fit, or the whatever podcast,

whether it's, uh, MRA types like us, or if it's politicians like Trump and Vance, or

if it's just podcast pros like Theo Vaughan and Joe Rogan, it doesn't matter. Because to them,

all of this is the same problem. All of this has to be attacked, even if it, even if it

composes people who disagree with each other on things, none of that matters. Because in the

eyes of these people, we're all in the same, we're all under the same umbrella. And I'm using

that to write, even Scott Galloway isn't under that umbrella, but let's finish the Jordan Peterson

part first. Real source of men suffering, reverse, men are the true victims of modern society,

not women, and anyone who questioned Peterson didn't say that. He just said that it's bad for

men and women, but okay. That framing is attacking vulnerable men. You don't care that men are

committing suicide. See, I'm talking about. Okay. Okay. Lading. So you don't recognize any

possibility that feminism could harm men, none whatsoever, or women. Right. You basically said,

it's about equality. You basically said that there is a force in our society that is a billion to

trillion dollar institutional force that we cannot question. And if we do, we're engaging in abuse.

I don't know what to say to this. How does, how do people like this get so much fucking attention?

I know. I know. I know. I know what women want to hear. Okay. Well, I don't know why women want to hear

this. Yeah. I think they like knowing that they're vulnerable. Describe Scott Galloway as, quote,

three manas fears in a liberal trench coat, like stacked on top of each other. Like that's a really

good description of him, by the way. Bravo, Jeff. So they're okay. So somebody on sub-stacks says,

Scott Galloway is three manas fears wearing a liberal trench coat. So that means that

Scott Galloway, despite perhaps even having good intentions and trying to make, you know,

caring about men and his liberalism fit together is being attacked anyway.

I'm because apparently being pro-male is not liberal. It's just not. Yeah. They're really giving

a good, good inverse relate like they're really in the negative space. They're really explaining who

they are. Everybody who has any concern for men, who thinks of men as being a legitimate

category of being, is part of the menosphere, even with like a ton, like a ton of feminist

caveats, if you even think that men should be appealed to at all like Scott Galloway,

you are part of the manosphere and you are every time you open your mouth, you're abusing a

woman with Darvo. Yeah, and I think Scott looked to be, if I'm being charitable to Scott Galloway,

so I try to be charitable with people. I think that what he's, he's basically seeing that

if we don't do something about men, we're going to lose everything. Like he recognizes that

shit is getting worse. And so he's like, well, I don't want to abandon like what I believe in

in terms of my, you know, beliefs and policy and all this other shit, but we have to do something

for men. We have to offer them something because we're going to lose them again. Like he was the

guy who was like, we're going to lose men forever. If we don't, so it's partly him being very like

pragmatic, right, for the most part. But let's, let's take a listen to him.

Let's go. And he calls out this clip from his interview with Liz Plank for her podcast,

boy problems. 25, 2500 women a year are murdered by men. Most of them, uh, men they know that is

unacceptable. Men have a responsibility because of the physical size, always default to protection.

It is a real issue. And until zero, it needs focus. Having said that, uh, 40,000 men will kill

themselves this year. So the guy you're on a date with is 16 times more likely to go home and

hurt himself than hurt you. We lose approximately 10,000 men and 10,000 women a year

to driving fatalities, meaning the drive over to the date is four times more dangerous.

You are more likely to drown or choke and die on that date than have your partner,

potential partner hurt you. So while I understand it's an issue, if you go on TikTok,

you get the sense that you're literally gambling with your life if you go on a date.

No, you are. She puts, she puts that she added that where it says you are as a woman gambling

with your life. So again, look, I know I don't like Scott Galloway because he does exactly what

the male feminist thing where he opens up with the land acknowledgement, you know, women,

they haven't really tough. I acknowledge all of it. And until we get to the point where there are

zero murders of women, it'll always be an issue. Yeah, that'll never happen because we live on

earth, not heaven. But then he goes, okay, having said that, here are some problems that men have.

And yeah, it's probably not as high as it needs to be. And it doesn't, he doesn't ask the appropriate

whether he doesn't ask, well, how often do women murder men? How often do women rape men? How

often do women assault men? He doesn't even ask those questions, right? But all he's doing is

saying, well, men have problems as well. And he's manosphere automatically, okay? So and I'm,

that's, okay, but let's finish this. And are told that they are, they are pathologized,

they are told they are predators. Same D, same A, same RVO, clavicular on, it's not

careful. That was not. Sorry, did I blow everyone's earbrows out your balls?

That's all right. I have, I think I have something that prevents it from going too loud.

So it doesn't hurt anybody. So even if you scream, I have like a, that is not Darvo.

Literally what she's saying is men having any opinion on anything is automatically Darvo.

If a woman defends a man, it's Darvo because she didn't like Tiki Taki's mother.

I just don't understand this. Yeah, it's just like Jonathan just said just because she hates men.

Yeah. It's like she wants to justify her hatred.

He's just saying, hey, this affects men and it's not statistically reasonable. And she's saying,

that's Darvo. This woman, if a man said anything in his defense, she would have considered

abuse of herself. What 70, 80,000 subscribers this woman, this video, 200,000 views.

How is it possible that something so psychotically abusive and dehumanizing is so beloved by whoever

is watching this? This is dehumanizing. This is psychotic. What she's saying, men have no right

to have an opinion on themselves is what she's saying. I don't know. I wish I could project this

into people's heads. How wrong this is.

All right, so I think now the last thing is we don't even really have to do it. She mentions

Clivicular, but doesn't have like a clip or anything. So I'm not going to play that part.

But I think this is this is Louis Thoreau on Chris Williamson's podcast. Now Chris Williamson,

also not a big fan because he's basically like on the like I don't like the Manusphere train.

So he's not really helpful. But again, like the the thing about these guys like Scott Galloway

and Chris Williamson, they think that they can like stay in the good graces of these women.

If they just attack the Manusphere at least like dismiss them or try to like, you know,

or whatever, but it won't save you because the problem is that you're born a man.

And if you say anything or you advocate for men in any capacity, even if it's like with all

of the caveats of like, well, look, if you if you cry some more and vote Democrat and eat more

soy, then I'll look out for your suicide. No, that doesn't matter. These women will be like, no,

no, let him die alone. And like, you know, make sure that no, just don't leave a mess.

Make it fast, but you can't use guns because we're banning those. So, um, but anyway,

statements that indicate to me that he clearly understands the Manusphere grift and the psychology

behind it. All of this, by the way, I covered. What's the grip? They're making money.

Uh, they're making money, but live streaming. What's the grift?

That we actually recognize that half the human race might have things happen to them.

And that the other half of the human race might have an influence on those things. That's the

grift, is it? Oh, yeah. Okay. The misogyny of the Manusphere almost a year ago. I'll link you to

the playlist of this misogyny. Did you notice this? This is misogyny men having opinions on their

experience of things, right? Someone pointing out that the row is actually engaging in farming

controversy. And that's the very thing he's accusing HMS Tiki Taki, a woman pointing that out.

All of this is misogyny. They don't want men to exist. They just don't want you to exist.

They want you to cease to exist. That's what I see here. There is no space. She has claimed all

the space. She has claimed all of the positions on the board. They are all hers. And you've

may stand nowhere. You get no part. You get no part of the earth, guys. You have no place.

No place to think about and certainly no place to talk. No place to say anything about who you think

you are and what you've experienced. This is...

Sometimes I don't know what to say. I don't understand. I am so sorry that so many women like this

shit. Like I don't even know what to say. I am fucking sorry, guys. Yeah, you don't have to be

sorry. You're not one of them. In this clip, you can clearly see that Lewis Thoreau understands

what's going on. Really what singles them out and defines them as extreme

atmosphere is the willingness to embrace a kind of paranoid, conspiratorial mindset to employ

outrageous, I would say utterly cynical, clickbait-based content creation. And then all of it with

a view to... Paranoid mindset. Paranoid mindset, patriarchy.

Using controversy to get money, 2.9 million his company made. Right? In a year, what do you think he's making it off of?

Right? And in particular, in this documentary, it's exactly like Achimestikitaki's mom said,

he's making money off of controversy. And he's also making money off of taking a very marginalized

opinion, which has its own problems, which we have gone through at length, me and Brian. He is

making money off of a marginalized community that isn't allowed to have an existence in the

mainstream. And you went when I will believe that men are allowed a voice, when they have a party,

when they have a trillion dollar industry advocating for their issues, right? That's when I'll

believe they have a voice, specifically their needs, not what they're expected to do.

Okay, so he is actually... He is saying that they're engaged in a grift. He might be right.

Maybe they are engaged in a grift. Guess who else is engaged in a grift? And that was her point.

Yeah, and like, why does their grift exist? How is it possible, even if we accept

that the manosphere, as he defines it, is grifting? Why does the market exist,

though? You're saying there's a market that they're digging advantage of? Where did the market

come from? Was it always there? Where did it come from? Yeah, why is the marketplace?

There's massive educational value in being beaten up by your dad. It's kind of extraordinary.

And probably some kind of a compensation by him. You got this line in the dark, you say...

Compensation for what?

Huh? Okay, what the hell would you turn that into compensation? He's basically saying,

Andrew Tade is an abused boy. Yeah. Okay, and now he's saying, oh, that's compensation.

Andrew Tade is an abused boy. So you're saying that this abused boy is constructed this empire

as compensation for being abused? Well, that actually sort of describes most technocrats.

It probably also describes youth through, honestly. Like everybody's acting out some pain from their

childhood. He was with Jimmy Savile. Yeah, many people are acting out the pain that they got from

Jimmy Savile. This guy's good friend. I don't understand where he's going. Oh, this isn't

abused child. He's acting out his pain. That makes him horrible. And we should throw

stones at him. What is the point of saying that? Like, how does that discredit Andrew Tade?

Abuse child makes, you know, makes himself into a multi-millionaire while that really discredits him.

Why would that discredit him? Like, I mean, I could almost be like, okay, you know,

Theroux says, well, he's an alleged sex trafficker. That's discredits him, right? That at least

is in the realm of reasonable. You see what I'm saying, Brian? That's treasonable and

and supportable. And maybe something you could justify someone saying, why?

Andrew Tade's an alleged sex trafficker. That discredits him. No. Theroux goes with,

Andrew Tade was an abused boy. That discredits him. Really? Astounding. Don't you think?

Astounding that that that this woman and Theroux is landing on that to discredit him.

That really says a lot, doesn't it? Interesting. That's Darvo.

Or as Spock would say, fascinating.

Well, I don't think, I mean, like, we could listen to the rest of this bit, but we can stop that.

Those are the, I wanted to show specifically what. Yeah, we can stop. We can stop here. It's fine.

Like, that's enough. We've done enough damage to our souls. But you guys get where I'm coming from.

See, so Theroux is no, she's not unique. This is the way that these people operate. They take

the extremes, which usually are not as extreme as they want you to think they are. And then

they link them to moderates and even people that would probably be more of an obstacle to men's

issues. And they just say they're all just as bad as each other. And what does that tell you?

None of them are going to be good enough because what they want is something that is complete

hegemony of their worldview unquestioningly. And men have to either get on board or die quietly.

And, you know, they don't want to hear about it. On the upside, the man is fear or whatever you

want to call it is only getting stronger. And men just don't give a shit. And I mean, like,

that that number is growing. Let's just say. And that's why people like Scott and Galloway

are panicking because he sees men checking out. And the numbers are bearing out.

Calvicular, who just got a brief mention, he's exposed women of his age group as well as being

shallow and untrustworthy and unscrupulous. And even he is disgusted by that.

So, you know, I mean, the truth comes out. It's all I'm saying.

It does. It does. And I wanted to, I actually wanted to read something that I

did. I created. I've been looking into feminist frameworks and the actual evolved relationship

between men and women. And honestly, the more I get into what romance is, the more interesting,

the whole thing becomes. And again, I know that a lot of people have a, they side-eye

romance as a genre. But the more I've been investigating what actually sells, not what the

publishers are trying to voice on women, it's become, it's been a bit of a white pill. I keep

coming back to this because it's for me, it's a white pill. So based on like evolution, the things

that women have evolved to find important, stable pair bond with a high investment male. That

doesn't mean a high status male. It means a male who's highly invested, paternal investment in

offspring, family unit security, offspring survival and the bonding event itself. The neurochemical

lock that reorganizes a specific male around her and her children's needs. Now, this isn't just

from humans. This is from all pair bonding mammals. They all have the same endocrine architecture

and they all have that same reorganization on like a sub-cortical level. Have you ever seen,

you've seen those, those videos of fathers like catching things, like fast object moving towards

child videos? Yeah, yeah, sure. And you notice how fast they move? That's because it's sub-cortical

processing. Their endocrinology has rewired so that they are constantly monitoring threats to

their children and their bond target their lives. And because they have that, it's not actually the

reflexes are so fast, it's the monitoring is so constant. They're constantly monitoring the

environment for threats. And this is the rearrangement of the architecture. And feminism's measurable

effects on each of these pair bond formation declining marriage rates have fallen consistently

across every population where feminist frameworks have achieved cultural dominance. The framing

of marriage as an institution of patriarchal control has made the commitment itself suspect.

Parabonding stability declining divorce rates rose sharply following no fault divorce legislation

which will lift feminist policy priority. The framing of male bonding behavior as controlling

gives men women a diagnostic framework for interpreting normal vast suppressant output as abuse

which produce a continually renewable justification for leaving. So essentially feminists are framing

the natural effect of how men bond as abuse. And of course what they'd say is oh you're just

you think that men and that's all men are capable but it's like

they're reinterpreting something that if you actually look at the literature women want

they want this. They want a man to act like a man when he's bonded to someone.

Paternal investment declining custody structures that distinctly separate fathers from children

cultural messaging that frames male provision is economic control cultural messaging that

frames male protectiveness is paternalism all reduced channels through which bond and males can

deliver investment to offspring. Male who has been told his provision is dominance and his

protectiveness is control has been told his investment is unwelcome. And again evolutionarily

what women want stable parabond high investment male paternal investment in offspring security

offspring survival and the bonding event itself which we would call love we don't need to call

it the bonding event fertility declining below replacement in every feminist influence population

women who delay parabonding to pursue career priorities frame does empowerment encounter biological

constraints that the framework promised were either negotiable or irrelevant offspring

children and single parent households show worse outcomes on nearly every measurable dimension

educational attainment income mental health substance abuse incarceration rates the feminist

framework that frame the two parent unit as patriarchal in single motherhood as empowered

independence produced a population scale experiment in removing paternal investment the results

are in and they're bad for children so feminism's actual track track record is degradation of

every single thing women evolved to value i want to repeat that there are things that we invent

about ourselves as human beings and then there are things that are based on what we are

right and what women are is that they have been involved or made by god whatever you want to say

blessed by the spaghetti monster they have evolved to want particular things a stable parabond

with a man right and this society has destroyed that now women apparently are on this this kick

of proving to themselves and everyone that they really don't want that

but the truth is the endocrinology does not lie it cannot lie

so feminism's actual track record is degradation of every single thing women evolved to value

not mixed results not trade-offs degradation across the board

oh now what happens when women are trained to label everything they value as feminists

it makes the framework unfalcifiable from inside if a woman values parabonding she's told

that's feminist she's choosing it freely if she values career over family that's feminist too if

she values motherhood feminist independence feminist the sword stops having definitional content

and becomes a loyalty marker it doesn't describe a position it describes membership but the actual

policy and cultural machinery operating under the feminist label is specifically degrading the

parabonding parental paternal investment and family stability side the career independence side

gets institutional support legal protections cultural validation economic infrastructure the

parabonding side gets institutional hostility marriage framed as oppression male investment

framed as control maternal preference for caregiving framed as false consciousness

the labeling so the labeling does something precise it prevents women from noticing that the

framework is selectively destroying the things they value most while supporting the things

that serve the frameworks institutional interests so the reason why I got in on this is because

literally I'm going to say this very clearly women are spending almost a trillion dollars a year

to get the text-based simulacra of a parabond and feminists can't stand it they're trying to

destroy the industry or colonize it and try to make it into something that pushes feminist beliefs

so anyway that's what I wanted to say I just had to I had to end on something that least gives

me a little bit of hope yeah because that was so awful yeah no this woman is awful she is an awful

human being and she doesn't know what Darvo means and I'm not sure if she doesn't know no

or she's just using it in a way that's most useful to herself either way

don't know what to say yeah all right well and that's it I mean like I did my part I want to

show you all what was going on with that so yes your part is done well Brian yeah

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